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| <asgilder> Odd...when I start up, I receive a "Failed to initialize HAL!!" error. | |
| <asgilder> !root | |
| <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | |
| <asgilder_> Does anyone know some possible steps to take to fix a HAL initialization error at startup? | |
| <asgilder_> what up | |
| <asgilder_> how do you change the desk top coior? | |
| <asgilder_> no i just want to change the desk top color | |
| <GazzaK> woo yay | |
| <Gargoyle> Anyone use vmware? | |
| <GazzaK> hey Gargoyle morning | |
| <Gargoyle> Hello | |
| <GazzaK> vmware - did, but not now, but I think popey might, or is that another one? | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <GazzaK> morning mrben | |
| <Gargoyle> I setup a virtual machine on my pc. Then copied it (the virtual machine) to a server and the network card is not recognised anymore. Doh! | |
| <Gargoyle> hello mrben | |
| <GazzaK> hey jono | |
| <GazzaK> good meeting last night :-) | |
| <jono> hey | |
| <jono> congrats! :) | |
| <GazzaK> great for the team eh | |
| <GazzaK> and woo popey and loudmouthman | |
| <jono> indeed :) | |
| <GazzaK> I felt terrible asking for them to be next, but I was about to be locked in the building for the night | |
| <GazzaK> hey nox-Hand | |
| <GazzaK> morning | |
| <Seeker`> morning | |
| <GazzaK> eek | |
| <GazzaK> hey Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> whats the "eek" for? | |
| <GazzaK> nothing | |
| <GazzaK> honest | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK, what time do you start work? | |
| <GazzaK> 8am | |
| <Seeker`> ouch | |
| <Gargoyle> can I use dpkg-reconfigure to redetect network cards if I change them? | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning all. | |
| <jayteeuk> Weird, I could have sworn I kept this window open last night. | |
| <GazzaK> nope, you closed it | |
| <Gargoyle> or the irc pixies closed it for you! | |
| <GazzaK> maybe it was divine intervention | |
| <GazzaK> t'was meant to be | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> kvirc isn't very good | |
| <jayteeuk> If it was divine intervention, GazzaK, how did you do it? :-P | |
| <GazzaK> wasn't me | |
| <GazzaK> maybe it was your rubbish ISP? | |
| <GazzaK> :p | |
| <jayteeuk> Bah. | |
| <jayteeuk> How dare ye. | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Can you try sending me a PM please | |
| <GazzaK> did it work? | |
| <Seeker`> yep, thanks | |
| <GazzaK> yay | |
| * Seeker` is trying GAIM for IRC now | |
| <GazzaK> did you get the woo yay | |
| <Seeker`> yeah | |
| <GazzaK> was that the same as the eek | |
| <GazzaK> as one was a /notice Seeker` and the other was a open dialog window | |
| <Seeker`> (09:52:37 AM) GazzaK: (notice) woo yay? | |
| <Seeker`> (09:52:51 AM) GazzaK: eek | |
| <GazzaK> in the same window? | |
| <GazzaK> ahh | |
| <Seeker`> yep | |
| <Seeker`> can you try it again, i want to check i've got my notifications working correctly | |
| <Seeker`> i think i'll stick with GAIM for a while | |
| <LoudMouthMan> happy dance happy dance happy dance | |
| <GazzaK> hey LoudMouthMan | |
| * GazzaK snogs LoudMouthMan with tongues | |
| <Gargoyle> eeew! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe I have Coffee mouth .. ! | |
| <GazzaK> sorry Gargoyle | |
| <Gargoyle> :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Anyway he was only snogging me its not that bad is it ? | |
| <Gargoyle> It was the "with tongues" bit... more info than we needed pre 11 am! ;-) | |
| <GazzaK> do you feel left out? | |
| <Gargoyle> no | |
| <Gargoyle> I;m fine! | |
| * Gargoyle looks busy! | |
| <jayteeuk> Still got that warm glow LoudMouthMan? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jayteeuk yeah , but then I closed the microwave door and it sorted peterd out ! | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah, I was going to suggest maybe you wet yourself. ;) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> eeeew ! | |
| <Seeker`> I decided to come back to Konversation | |
| <GazzaK> eek | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, what did your guests think of it all | |
| <GazzaK> ddi they call you a geek | |
| <LoudMouthMan> they are amazed at just how deep the community goes , he had No idea abuot all the stuff behind me. | |
| <jayteeuk> LoudMouthMan: I don't know about your guests, are they computer users? | |
| <jayteeuk> Potential converts? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jayteeuk they were my clients | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah, I see. | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh yes, speaking of which -- how serious were you last night? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jayteeuk about business I am always serious. its good to network and keep relevant and useful contacts. | |
| <jayteeuk> OK, want to chat about it off channel? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jayteeuk okay but just call me on 07713241956 | |
| * jayteeuk registers that number for our adult chat service. :) | |
| * GazzaK adds number to special interest hotline number lists | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jayteeuk it wouldnt be the first time ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cheers Jayteeuk | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, can I have a job too | |
| <jayteeuk> Cheers LoudMouthMan -- I'll pass on your details. :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Gazzak I tole you I dont do laptops. now desktop <grin> | |
| <popey> morning all | |
| <popey> Gargoyle: I use qemu, not vmware | |
| <GazzaK> I have to take my servers apart this holiday and dig out the three ton of much inside them | |
| <popey> but they are much the same thing | |
| <GazzaK> s/much/muck | |
| <GazzaK> morning popey dear | |
| <Seeker`> lo popey | |
| <GazzaK> anyone know a cheapish anti static hoover? | |
| <popey> anti-static hoover!? | |
| <popey> wossat? | |
| <Gargoyle> Ta popey. Just fighting with network card config. | |
| <popey> just use a normal hoover | |
| <popey> Gargoyle: in vmware or qemu? | |
| <Gargoyle> vmware | |
| <popey> GazzaK: one hand on hoover, other hand on case of machine with power lead plugged in and switched off will earth you | |
| <Gargoyle> ubuntu guest (win2k3 host) | |
| <GazzaK> popey, a hoover, due to it's operation, can create huge static | |
| <popey> not if you are holding it and you are earthed it can't | |
| <jayteeuk> Aren't most pipes on vacuum cleaners metal? | |
| <jayteeuk> Obviously not the flexible bit, but the bit from that to the head. | |
| <Seeker`> a hoover can damage fans too | |
| <popey> pipes on my dyson are plastic | |
| <jayteeuk> Ohh, 'ark at 'er with 'er Dyson. :-P | |
| <jayteeuk> Seeker`: I've heard that too. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| * popey hugs his dyson | |
| <jayteeuk> Get a can of compressed air. | |
| <jayteeuk> They're about a fiver from PC World. | |
| <jayteeuk> Just don't use it upside-down. | |
| <Gargoyle> dysons are cool! | |
| <Gargoyle> You can suck up spiders and watch them spin round inside! | |
| <jayteeuk> James Dyson got an Honourary (sp?) Degree at my Graduation ceremony. | |
| <jayteeuk> Honorary? | |
| <jayteeuk> But my wife hates Dysons. | |
| <GazzaK> the plastic pipes in a hoover can create a abnormal build up of static | |
| <jayteeuk> She swears by Henrys. | |
| <GazzaK> air dusters are grrreat for cooling cans of coke | |
| <popey> yes GazzaK and as I have said, if you are holding it, you will discharge it, if you are earthed | |
| <GazzaK> true, I hope :p | |
| <popey> did you not do physics at school then? :) | |
| <popey> it's our xmas party tonight | |
| <jayteeuk> I think he's right, GazzaK. :) | |
| <popey> we're out in london | |
| <GazzaK> I'd not normally be bothered (little britain stylee) but this is a £££ server | |
| <GazzaK> woooo | |
| <popey> if you see me on irc after 10pm tonight, ignore me, i'll be pissed and likely talking gibberish | |
| <GazzaK> cool, I'll use that time to chat you up and make you send images to me which you'll regret | |
| <Seeker`> popey: where in london are you going? | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, we need to know where to avoid | |
| <popey> Seeker`: sway, a club in holborn | |
| <Seeker`> cool | |
| <selinuxium_> Morning all | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning selinuxium. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [NEWS] New Ubuntu Polo Shirts have arrived and I am taking orders #15.00 plus P&P. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Dsas_ has his reserved | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| <popey> same colour/style? | |
| <popey> you should mail the list about that | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes ! and yes <grin> | |
| <jayteeuk> Shame, my wife just ordered my Christmas present from Amazon today. | |
| <jayteeuk> I guess I'll have to buy my own. :) | |
| <Seeker`> is there a link to the design? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah there was a photo of it on our wiki ! | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/misc/DSC02692 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> time to play hunt | |
| <Seeker`> what sizes are there? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> XL | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> LoudMouthMan: apologies for the thread hijack on the mailing list :) | |
| <Seeker`> hmm, is there a numerical value to go with XL? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sheep nop problem | |
| <jayteeuk> Nice LoudMouthMan. | |
| <Seeker`> and where would they need to be collected from? | |
| <Seeker`> wb GazzaK | |
| <Seeker`> LoudMouthMan: ping | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Seeker yes ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh seeker . um Sussex. either down at the british computer fair or here in horsham or via your own mecahnisms | |
| <GazzaK> eeek, I died | |
| <Seeker`> where is the BCF? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Worhting | |
| <LoudMouthMan> worthing even | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> tempting | |
| <Seeker`> is there a numerical size mesurement to go with XL? | |
| <GazzaK> too many beers | |
| <LoudMouthMan> here we go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Marketing/Merchandise | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> I will be in haywards heath on the 21st | |
| <Seeker`> or, i should be | |
| <LoudMouthMan> close eniough | |
| <Seeker`> would i be able to meet you somewhere to collect it then? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah haywards heath is about 12 miles from me and 20 mins drive | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and im not booked out on that day that I know of yet | |
| <Seeker`> cool | |
| <Seeker`> lunchtime | |
| <Seeker`> back | |
| <Seeker`> hmm, LoudMouthMan: Based on the measurment on the mailing list, I think XL will probably be a bit big | |
| * chaddy can squeeze into a large... | |
| <jayteeuk> I could probably fit into a medium quite comfortably. | |
| <jayteeuk> I jsut prefer baggy. | |
| <jayteeuk> And now for something completely different. | |
| <jayteeuk> I have a network of PCs here, this one running Edgy, my wife's running Dapper, a (currently not working) desktop half-upgraded to Dapper, and two servers running Debian Sarge. | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm considering switching the servers over to Dapper too. | |
| <jayteeuk> Does anyone have any suggestions for a method by which I only had to download the daily updates from the repositories once, preferably with experience using it? | |
| <jayteeuk> I think there's an apt-proxy? | |
| <GazzaK> popey, has made a local repo | |
| <GazzaK> dunno how he did it though | |
| <jayteeuk> Just seems like I'm using a lot of bandwidth I wouldn't really need to. | |
| <jayteeuk> And it's fine to read the project pages of proposed solutions, but there's no replacement for real-world experience. | |
| <popey> google for ubuntu local repo and you will find my how-to :) | |
| <popey> http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror | |
| <popey> see | |
| <jayteeuk> He's got answers for everything, hasn't he? :-P | |
| <GazzaK> yes | |
| <jayteeuk> You know what, popey? | |
| <jayteeuk> You should go for Ubuntu membership. | |
| <GazzaK> including "whats in the round window" | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, go on popey go for it | |
| <popey> http://www.cvaonline.org/CGPrograms/Dict/image/hades.jpg | |
| <GazzaK> and that is? | |
| <popey> hell | |
| <jayteeuk> Looks just like our northern office. | |
| <popey> jpc | |
| <GazzaK> looks like a night out clubbing, I'm sure I've seen dark rooms just like that | |
| * popey clubs GazzaK | |
| <jayteeuk> popey, did you edit the output from df -h? | |
| <jayteeuk> /dev/sda1 233G 4M 229M 0% /media/usbdisk | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> you are the first to notice | |
| <jayteeuk> Shouldn't that be 229G free? | |
| <popey> well, first to tell me | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> thanks | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm pedantic. | |
| <popey> done | |
| <jayteeuk> Blimey, that was quick. :) | |
| <popey> drupal \o/ | |
| <popey> that article is one of the single most popular pages | |
| <jayteeuk> IIRC, there's a Microsoft equivalent to this. | |
| <jayteeuk> I can't remember what it's called, but I think they charge quite a bit for it. | |
| <popey> for caching windows updates? | |
| <popey> SUS or something isn't it? | |
| <jayteeuk> Yes. I seem to recall our sysadmin talking about it with a dreamy look in his eye, then snapping back to reality and saying "But this place would never approve the budget." | |
| <jayteeuk> Possibly not entirely relevant here... but it makes an interesting point of comparison for selling Ubuntu into a corporate environment. | |
| <GazzaK> to right it does | |
| <GazzaK> caching windows updates is a PITA | |
| <jayteeuk> Good article popey. | |
| <jayteeuk> Not that we'd expect anything less. :) | |
| <popey> stop it :) | |
| <popey> my head will swell | |
| * popey notes that 62% of visitors to my site use firefox! only 26% use IE | |
| <jayteeuk> popey: I just read somewhere (Ubuntu News?) about someone raising a bug that the developers don't get enough credit. | |
| <popey> yeah | |
| <jayteeuk> So I'm doing my bit to fix that bug. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah i saw that this morning | |
| <jayteeuk> The article does note that by developers, he doesn't just mean coders. | |
| <jayteeuk> Anyway... Balamory's on, so it must be lunch time. :) | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> Baaa-laaaa-mooooo-reeeee! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Ive just had a phone call from one of the vendors of the british computer fair. hes asking me a few questions about Ubuntu . he has put it on some laptops he is planning to sell and he wants to preload all the bling to show off. I am so chuffed thats the second vendor in as many months | |
| <popey> What's the story in balamory, woudln't you like to know.. | |
| <popey> he needs to be careful pre-loading bling | |
| * LoudMouthMan shotguns popey in the chest : SHADUP! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i dont need that tune in me HEAD | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> legal issues | |
| <LoudMouthMan> aaaaaaaargh its there now you BSTD | |
| <jayteeuk> LoudMouthMan: If I have to suffer, why not everyone else? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well i did explain to him the issues but hes more interested in Rthymbox. | |
| <jayteeuk> A problem shared is a problem doubled. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, I'm off. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Jayteeuk in our house we make alyssa watch Scooby Doo and tom & Jerry and Road Runner and Bugs Bunny and Daffy duck . good wholesome kids stuff. | |
| <jayteeuk> bbl | |
| <LoudMouthMan> grimoble ive got that bloody aswful tune in my head !... | |
| <jayteeuk> LoudMouthMan: Real TV from when we were kids. :) We've just gone through the 819th showing of Over the Hedge. | |
| <jayteeuk> ANYWAY. | |
| <jayteeuk> I really am going to get some lunch now. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hahah ive not seen that yet well not the completed film anyway | |
| <jayteeuk> It's very good. :) | |
| <GazzaK> whats the story what??? must be old, not seen that one | |
| * GazzaK is going shooting tonight, yay | |
| <jayteeuk> GazzaK: NTL channel 702. | |
| <GazzaK> jayteeuk, haha, i'm at work and at home have sky, but i'm never gonna watch it | |
| <constrictor> would anyone know how to find chipset and driver details for a network card? | |
| <popey> lspci | |
| <popey> constrictor: is it pci or pcmcia? | |
| <popey> or usb even? | |
| <constrictor> pci? | |
| <popey> lspci then | |
| <constrictor> ok | |
| <popey> should show the device up | |
| <popey> does it? | |
| <popey> \o/ alanpope@ubuntu.com works | |
| <constrictor> yes it does | |
| <popey> what is it? | |
| <constrictor> i'm trying to configure ksmet and i need to add the driver and chipset to its conf file | |
| <popey> is it a desktop or laptop? | |
| <constrictor> lspci displays a list of pci devices which includes intel express 945 etc etc | |
| <constrictor> it's a dell inspiron 640m | |
| <popey> ah, so it's an ipw2200 ? | |
| <popey> intel centrino? | |
| * popey has one of those and kismet works well | |
| <constrictor> yes | |
| <constrictor> oh brill | |
| <constrictor> so i'm guessing it would be as follows | |
| <popey> source=ipw2200,eth1 or whatever in your conf | |
| <constrictor> source =ipw2200, eth1,chipset? | |
| <constrictor> what chipset | |
| <popey> what version of ubuntu? | |
| <constrictor> edgy | |
| <popey> what version of kismet? | |
| <constrictor> or should i just leave it as addme | |
| <popey> try source=ipw2200,eth1,ATHEROS | |
| <constrictor> kismet v2006.04.R1 | |
| <constrictor> cool | |
| <popey> cool, that should work | |
| <constrictor> i'll try that now | |
| <popey> earlier versions didn't know ipw2200 | |
| * constrictor hopping around yelling it works! | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <constrictor> so now do i just wait? | |
| <popey> for what? | |
| <popey> you could pick the laptop up and go for a walk down the road | |
| <popey> see if your neighbours have wireless :) | |
| <constrictor> i have found a wireless point and it's wep encrypted 128 bit | |
| <popey> is it yours? | |
| <constrictor> was for the former sys admin and he's left the encryption on and i want to change it | |
| <popey> can't you just reset it? | |
| <popey> hardware reset the device? | |
| <constrictor> it's a 3 com access point 6000 | |
| <popey> then follow manufacturers recommendations for setting it up? | |
| <popey> rather than trying to crack it | |
| <popey> is anyone currently using it? | |
| <popey> hello Wibbler | |
| <popey> welcome to our world | |
| <popey> loudmouthman: you tested your @ubuntu.com email address? mine works :) | |
| * popey sniffs his armpits | |
| * popey blames loudmouthman | |
| <GazzaK> eek | |
| <loudmouthman> popey : nah not yet . | |
| <GazzaK> is it webmail popey | |
| <popey> no, it just forwards to your primary email account | |
| <popey> so mine goes to my popey.com account | |
| <GazzaK> so you cannot send as popey@ubuntu.com then | |
| <popey> no because that isn't my email address :) | |
| <popey> i can send as alanpope@ubuntu.com | |
| <loudmouthman> why are your armpits my problem anyway or is that the Lmmynx affect ? | |
| <popey> someone arrived | |
| <popey> i spoke | |
| <popey> they left | |
| <popey> maybe it was my breath | |
| <loudmouthman> and that AINT my fault ... | |
| <popey> :) | |
| * popey is in a good mood today | |
| <loudmouthman> heheheheh im soo wude ! | |
| <popey> _____________________________ | |
| <popey> < MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! > | |
| <popey> ----------------------------- | |
| <popey> \ ^__^ | |
| <popey> \ (oo)\_______ | |
| <popey> (__)\ )\/\ | |
| <popey> ||----w | | |
| <popey> || || | |
| <GazzaK> it's got a willy | |
| <GazzaK> tumbleweed.popey.com | |
| <GazzaK> eek, I killed it | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh my word. | |
| <GazzaK> what word? | |
| <jayteeuk> Did someone switch my IRC session to #cowsex? | |
| <X3N_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36829/ :( | |
| <X3N_> anyone know what that means and why it's coming up ? | |
| <X3N_> it has something to do with the usb | |
| <constrictor> no popey no one's using it | |
| <X3N_> if i restart dbus it seems to be fixed | |
| <constrictor> i'm trying to set it up so the guys in the office with laptops do not have to use eth cables | |
| <jayteeuk> X3N_: I can't help you with that one I'm afraid. | |
| <X3N_> or not infact | |
| <X3N_> lsusb hangs as well | |
| <X3N_> gonna have to reboot :( :( | |
| <loudmouthman> can anyone tell me where are the logs from last nights meeting held please | |
| <Seeker`> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | |
| <Seeker`> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2006-12-12.html | |
| <loudmouthman> Seeler thanks | |
| <loudmouthman> Seeker even! | |
| <Seeker`> :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Damn, you mean I went and searched them out for nothing? :) | |
| <jayteeuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC-2006-12-12 | |
| * jayteeuk grumbles | |
| <jayteeuk> You know when people ask you for estimates on things. | |
| <jayteeuk> And you quote happy path and worst case, then plump for something in the middle? | |
| <jayteeuk> Don't you just hate it when people ignore the worst case and quote the happy path to the customer? | |
| <loudmouthman> jayteeuk there is a japanese proverb which says "we are fools if we dance or not, so we might as well dance" it applies well to expectations of quotes <Grin> | |
| <jayteeuk> There's a law called Sod's Law. You've probably heard of it. ;) | |
| <loudmouthman> well yeah but im trying not to be so cynical, i just dont believe its possible though. | |
| <jayteeuk> The thing that annoys me in this instance is that we haven't provided the customer with an estimate, "It should take about eight-and-a-half days at PRIVMSG #ubuntu-uk :So if we do run into problems with customer requirements, integration, etc, we just have to take it on the chin. | |
| <jayteeuk> loudmouthman: How do you deal with this kind of thing on projects where you remain involved? Do you quote a fixed price or t&m? | |
| <loudmouthman> ooh hang on i just came back to me desk | |
| <loudmouthman> jayteeuk I always use a sales inquiry and make sure we have clear defined goals. so its fixed price and when the client even attempts a feature drift you say " well thats lovely, lets just put that on the end and if we get time we will look at it" | |
| <loudmouthman> then if they come back with more you just add each to the end and after three of four you sit them down and say "look, youve clearly got a new requirement because theres a lot here that doesnt match what we discussed" shall we respec or do you want to drop some requirements ! | |
| <GazzaK> and they go arghhhhhh | |
| <GazzaK> and you go down t pub | |
| <jayteeuk> I was a big fan of SCRUM when we used it on this project years ago, it seemed to work very well. | |
| <loudmouthman> direct , concise and clear confrontation without being dismissive makes them feel in control and lets you manage it. however its usually your own company that might let you down if they cant manage goals and achievements | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm not convinced they'll go for it anyway, to be honest, even at the happy path price. | |
| <jayteeuk> Unless they're expecting a massive increase in traffic. | |
| <loudmouthman> right im off into town , back in a bit ! | |
| <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future_timeline WOW | |
| <jamesbrose> hey | |
| <jamesbrose> all | |
| <jayteeuk> Hi jamesbrose. | |
| <constrictor> where does kismet save its datafiles? | |
| <jamesbrose> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=kismet+data+files&spell=1 | |
| <jamesbrose> Try looking around on google | |
| <jamesbrose> Or | |
| <jamesbrose> Get the package | |
| <jamesbrose> (if one) | |
| <jamesbrose> Click installed files | |
| <mrben> I think it saves them in ~ | |
| <mrben> popey: quality link | |
| <Seeker`> popey: That must have taken someone a while to do | |
| <jayteeuk> Damn, you know you're in trouble when you have to include justification for unit testing, a reproducible test suite and documentation in the project roadmap. | |
| <popey> http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/12/13/usb-humping-dog-flash-drive/#more-4121 | |
| <jamesbrose> hahahah! | |
| <jamesbrose> notice the anti-virus popup thing when it gets plugged in? | |
| <jamesbrose> Pfft...windows av | |
| <jayteeuk> Bugger. | |
| <jayteeuk> It appears I can't run my 32-bit chroot firefox with Beryl. :S | |
| <jamesbrose> Damn | |
| <jamesbrose> What happens? | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh I just get an error. | |
| <jayteeuk> The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 1865 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0) | |
| <jayteeuk> And some useful notes to X programmers. | |
| <jayteeuk> I only fired it up to watch that youtube clip on "Is your son a hacker?" | |
| <jayteeuk> And now someone's comments about The Screensavers suddenly makes sense. | |
| <jayteeuk> "Lunix, an illegal hacker operating system made by a Soviet computer hacker called Linus Torvalds" | |
| <jayteeuk> WTF? | |
| <jayteeuk> Poor guy, that page has to be a joke. | |
| <jamesbrose> Ouch | |
| <jamesbrose> @ the error | |
| <jamesbrose> whats that video? | |
| <jayteeuk> It's a clip from TechTV, but if you want to read the article they're talking about it's here: http://www.adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html | |
| <jayteeuk> The clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkLtXfsPqVQ&NR%22 | |
| <jamesbrose> loll | |
| <jamesbrose> lunix | |
| <jayteeuk> "If your son is using Quake, you should make hime understand that this is not acceptable to you. You should ensure all the firearms in your house are carefully locked away, and have trigger locks installed." | |
| <jayteeuk> Yeah, cos if he isn't playing Quake it's fine to leave the guns lying around. | |
| <jayteeuk> Hmmm... anyway... | |
| <mattl> http://www.archive.org/details/FSF_Eben_Moglen_Appeal_ogg :) | |
| <jayteeuk> That must be a joke... or he really needs to be educated as softly and gently as possible. | |
| <anto9us> yeah, he should be chainsawed to death | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, I need to go. | |
| <jayteeuk> bbl | |
| <jayteeuk> More-or-less bang on 5:30 for a change. | |
| <jamesbrose> haha | |
| <chaddy> ooh, beryl 0.1.3 is easy to get now | |
| <jamesbrose> I know :] | |
| <jamesbrose> Just add the repos | |
| <chaddy> they seem to have recovered well enough from that server problem | |
| <jamesbrose> Server problem/ | |
| <jamesbrose> ? | |
| <jamesbrose> What happened? | |
| <jamesbrose> Hey LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey JamesBrose . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jono thanks for pushing the agenda around a bit yesterday , many of the team were really greatful for your nudging. | |
| <jono> no worries | |
| <jono> congrats on the approval :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> whats the bet that popey has been playing with his Ubuntu.com address all day ! you could feel a great disturbance in the force as Popey joyfully emailed himself! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jono thanks . I feel a little less under pressure now. | |
| <jamesbrose> hahahahaa - http://deanhunt.com/bizzare-google-request/ | |
| <jono> LoudMouthMan: why pressure? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> um because you stood in the IBM talk and pointed me out and said " the ukteam will get approved wont they nik " . and whilst I appreciate there was not "real" pressure. I like to feel it shows enough respect of your position and the groups activities that I did what I could and saw a succesful result. | |
| <jamesbrose> who runs ubuntu-uk.org ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I think its somewhere between X3n and DSAS on the updates for that jamesbrose | |
| <jamesbrose> right | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so jono not a serious thing , just , goal setting. | |
| <jamesbrose> The favicon on there is anoying me | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmm let me go see ? | |
| <jamesbrose> <3 http://ubuntuforums.org/favicon.ico | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmm is it upside down or something ? | |
| <jono> LoudMouthMan: heh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jono im off to see a training lab on thursday that runs exclusivy ubuntu at the desktops. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i promise to snap pictures and get stories and generally report back on that . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> plus we had a vendor from the BCF call today and say he is putting Ubuntu on the laptops so the BCF thing is paying off just a little . | |
| <chaddy> jamesbrose: lost heaps of stuff on beryl-project.org | |
| <jamesbrose> ouch | |
| <chaddy> still seem to be missing older stuff about how to with dapper | |
| <snail> LoudMouthMan: is that a private training lab? or based in a school/college/uni? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> snail i dont actually fully know where it is based , out of curiousity why do you ask ? | |
| <snail> because i work for http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/ | |
| <snail> and we're interested in college/uni stuff | |
| <jamesbrose> Woop | |
| <LoudMouthMan> its in bullrushes business park | |
| <jamesbrose> https://launchpad.net/people/jamesrose | |
| * jamesbrose feels special | |
| <LoudMouthMan> snail its in East Grinstead | |
| <LoudMouthMan> snail I will howevr keep a eye out for that then if youd like me to ? | |
| <snail> LoudMouthMan: sure | |
| * snail goes for tea | |
| <chaddy> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/art.gnome.org/backgrounds/OTHER-GnuPowered_1280x1024.png | |
| <chaddy> current wallpaper^ | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and this http://www.dlanham.com/goodies/alice/ is mine ! | |
| <chaddy> nice | |
| <X3N_> i haven't seen schwuk in a while | |
| <X3N_> his blog feed doesn't seem to work anymore | |
| <LoudMouthMan> indeed.. scuse me I gotta get to the office ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> back | |
| <chaddy> wb LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> god thats a hell of a commute from home to the office ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> evenin' all. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello NeilSimmons | |
| <NeilSimmons> good evening, you Member you! | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im just getting my blog subscribed to planet.ubuntu.com so do excuse me ... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmmm your lack of faith disturbs me .. he said reaching for the ventolin | |
| <NeilSimmons> no probs mate - I'm just lusting over Nigella Lawson on BBC2 anyway. | |
| <NeilSimmons> bad breathing day? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no i was doing me daft vader | |
| <NeilSimmons> I gathered....wanted to make sure it wasn't a real prob. | |
| <NeilSimmons> that said, if it was it wouldn't be Ventolin you'd be reaching for. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so. how much do you love your job then ? | |
| <NeilSimmons> loads..... | |
| <NeilSimmons> been doing OS builds and system imaging today, also wrote the procedure doc. | |
| <NeilSimmons> I can't believe how much I'm enjoying it - or how much of a negative impact my being miserable before was having on me. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> wow . um we could ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> yeah - you weren't the only one <significant look at G> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Cheers for your support yesterday | |
| <NeilSimmons> pleasure. | |
| <NeilSimmons> hope it helped - but my voice isn't known in the community so don't know if it had an impact. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well its more the fanclub thing i think certainly its nice to see advocacy over a period of time. oh yeah and awesome wiki page . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I just like saying that ive been doing this since the turn of the century | |
| <NeilSimmons> whose wiki page? | |
| <NeilSimmons> hi dsas | |
| <dsas> hi NeilSimmons | |
| <jamesbrose> whats the thing in vi to save but carry on working? | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose: :w | |
| <chaddy> :help was as far as I got | |
| <jamesbrose> Cheers :P | |
| <dsas> i always remember it as w for write-to-disk | |
| <chaddy> I never got past pico/nano | |
| <chaddy> lo asgilder | |
| <asgilder> Hey Chaddy. | |
| <gord> why would you need more than nano? its the perfect office suite and should be installed on every computer in the universe, even those ones from like 1892 that had 1bit of ram | |
| <dsas> because vi *is* installed on every computer? | |
| <dsas> well, except windows. | |
| * dsas starts an editor flamewar | |
| <asgilder> Any idea why my desktop is giving me a "Failed to initialize HAL" error when I start Linux up? | |
| <dsas> asgilder: Are you suspending/hibernating? | |
| <asgilder> No. | |
| <dsas> asgilder: Hmm, I don't know then. (not that I really knew the other way) | |
| <asgilder> Odd...it didn't do it this time. | |
| <asgilder> I guess it never unmounted my flashdrive after I plugged it in. | |
| <asgilder> Shutdown and restarted and it gave no messages. | |
| <gord> hooray | |
| <LoudMouthMan> for our side? | |
| <gord> sure, why not | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cool ! | |
| *** Ubug2 is now known as Ubugtu | |
| <asgilder> Anyone ever do a linux install high? | |
| <gord> of all the things one could possibly do 'high' I would expect that to be among the most boring of them | |
| <asgilder> True. | |
| <VooDoo_> evening | |
| <LoudMouthMan> evening | |
| <asgilder> Unless you're REALLY baked, in which case, it can be kind of interesting. | |
| * gord tips his hat | |
| * X3N_ picks it up and hands it back to gord | |
| <asgilder> It's been a while since I used IRC seriously. I can't remember how to do the actions. | |
| <gord> its /me <text> | |
| <chaddy> asgilder: I do it quite regularly, I find the progress bar soothing | |
| <chaddy> .·° <-- baked and blowing rings | |
| <asgilder> Chaddy: Haha. | |
| <chaddy> set up beryl beautifully today while baked | |
| <chaddy> tis very trippy | |
| <asgilder> Baked is the only way to use a computer. | |
| <X3N_> no one says baked | |
| <chaddy> I can't use doze baked, at all | |
| <chaddy> we do, hereabouts | |
| <asgilder> I do. I'm American. | |
| <chaddy> also shit-faced | |
| <X3N_> the 1990's phoned and they want their phrases back | |
| <chaddy> hehe | |
| <chaddy> shit-faced was probably 1980's | |
| <asgilder> Here we use shit-faced for drunk. | |
| <X3N_> stoned is the in word | |
| <asgilder> Weren't you just giving me shit about outdated slang? | |
| <asgilder> That's older than baked. | |
| <X3N_> baked sounds old fashioned | |
| <asgilder> So's stoned, hippy. | |
| * togster appears | |
| * LoudMouthMan has never understood voluntary drug taking. but he still gets flashbacks from the stuff he got prescribed ! | |
| <dsas> yeah, people were getting stoned 2000 years ago! | |
| <X3N_> ooooh, that's another £50 fine i'm afraid dsas | |
| <dsas> :( | |
| * dsas has nothing but fluff | |
| <X3N_> i did say yesterday that bad puns are now a fine-able offence | |
| <X3N_> 4 in a row and i'll have to put you down for an azbo | |
| <X3N_> *asbo | |
| <LoudMouthMan> channel asbos ? round here ? | |
| <dsas> the media tell me that they're 'badges of honour' these days. | |
| <X3N_> yeah | |
| <X3N_> probably | |
| <dsas> can't afford the £200 fine to be down with the yoof though. | |
| <X3N_> it's their fault for putting 'bo' in the ancyomn | |
| <X3N_> *acronym | |
| <asgilder> Do you guys know what a redneck is? | |
| <X3N_> yes | |
| <dsas> asgilder: It's what you get when you're not very good at shaving I think? | |
| <X3N_> that's what people who live in the US are called isn't it ? | |
| <asgilder> Yeah. | |
| <X3N_> :p | |
| <asgilder> At least, the ignorant conservative assholes. | |
| <dsas> so what X3N_ said then? | |
| <dsas> I kid! I kid! | |
| <X3N_> come now dsas, that's too easy and not our style ;0 | |
| <X3N_> ;) | |
| <asgilder> Haha...yeah. Despite appearances, there ARE some people who are progressive thinkers. | |
| <dsas> asgilder: I know :), I've spoken to many cool Americans... | |
| <dsas> X3N_: Maybe I should go back to bad puns? | |
| <asgilder> And I'm the coolest you'll ever meet. | |
| <X3N_> well, probably best for you in the merci killing type way | |
| <X3N_> heh mercy | |
| <X3N_> je'nai pas francais ! | |
| <asgilder> Well, would any of you say that it would be a good thing to give a redneck some acid? | |
| <X3N_> no | |
| <dsas> No! They'll become funny comedians living a rock star lifestyle and dieing an early death. | |
| <dsas> dying even | |
| <asgilder> Wow! Dieing isn't so bad, but DYING? I guess I'd better not lace my dad's coffee, then. | |
| <X3N_> they'll be like donald rumsfeld | |
| <dsas> or Bill Hicks. It could go either way. | |
| * asgilder shudders | |
| <X3N_> "Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war." - donald runsfeld | |
| <X3N_> he can only have been on acid when making speaches | |
| <asgilder> True. | |
| <asgilder> At least he's resigned. | |
| <X3N_> yeah, though i think the damage is done | |
| <asgilder> Yeah. Fuck, America sucks. | |
| <dsas> asgilder: that bit above detroit seems pretty cool | |
| <dsas> asgilder: Where abouts in the US are you from? | |
| <asgilder> dsas: Missouri. | |
| <asgilder> I'm an atheist in the middle of the fucking bible belt, and a liberal in the conservative middle of the country. | |
| <dsas> a stranger in a strange world | |
| <asgilder> Oh yes. | |
| <dsas> US place names always seem funny, there's a warsaw (ex-communist capital), a Bolivar (south american revolutionary?), a Columbia and a lebanon all in MO | |
| <dsas> and a Clinton | |
| <gord> us place names duplicate themself all the time, its weird. there are like 10 Springfield's or som't | |
| <asgilder> I know. You get used to it after a while, though. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right thats my blog added to planet.ubuntu.com so lets wait for the cron | |
| <mc44> LoudMouthMan: has something thrilling happened to your cat lately? otherwise I wont bother reading it :p | |
| <dsas> mc44: His cat got approved as a ubuntu member! | |
| <mc44> dsas: I hope it has been renamed GNU/Cat then | |
| <gord> my cats thrilling exploits in the winter are generally reserved to sleeping and meowing at me till I realise I havn't fed her in ages, just another reason winter should be banned | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mc44 um I dont blog like that , but thanks for checking | |
| <asgilder> Tell your cat I said congrats. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i cracked some of the issues with bzr . i'll make a note since the instructions could do with a little fluffing but their good enough to work out why its not working. | |
| <mc44> LoudMouthMan: yes. it was a joke about planets. but anyway :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mc44 hey no problems . i know what you mean .. i actually make sure my feed is only handing out Ubuntu stuff. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> then when I blog about BNI or BCF or Sussex Lug I can keep it out of the planet. | |
| <mc44> I enjoy reading random non-ubuntu stuff actually :) | |
| <dsas> and me. Matthew Revell was wrong. | |
| <mc44> Matthew Revell is *always* wrong :p | |
| <mc44> well apart from when hes right. But I stand by my statement | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hahah well matthw revell disagreed with my comments at LRL06 so i withold judgement | |
| <dsas> jono has quit in disgust :( | |
| <gord> boo | |
| <dsas> That's reminded me, I have a long car journey Friday, I can download the latest podcast. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas do you grab the 43folders podcasts ? theres a recent set involving talks with david allen. | |
| <mc44> I never get things done | |
| <mc44> LoudMouthMan: I tried listening to the compilation but got lost when they started talking about reviews and inventories and other such things which are clearly part of his cunning system | |
| <dsas> LoudMouthMan: Nope, since finishing work I barely listen to any podcast. I only listen to them while driving... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas indeed i listen when driving and my clients always seem to KNOW when i want to listen | |
| <tsmithe> hi ho | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mc44 yeah i know the feeling. | |
| <dsas> heh, I used to love listening to lugradio whilst driving through the peak at 0700 in the morning, | |
| <mc44> I think its a scandal they only do one a fortnight. Laziest men in podcasting if you ask me | |
| <asgilder> We're one step closer to the cyberpunk futere we all want...light up clothing! | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <dsas> hi Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> how are you? | |
| <tsmithe> hi Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <dsas> Not bad, finishing off the last assignment :) | |
| <jamesbrose> ah the new forum theme freaks me out | |
| <dsas> how is Seeker`? | |
| * Seeker` is good | |
| <Seeker`> i cooked a meal that wasn't a ready meal for the first time in aaaaages | |
| * chaddy hasn't eaten today, should rectify that | |
| * tsmithe has eaten a few times today | |
| <tsmithe> mmmm | |
| <tsmithe> food | |
| <gord> I count anything I don't put in the microwave as not a ready meal, thus my bacon butty from 3-4 hours ago or so was my last proper meal, go me! | |
| * Seeker` had vegetables, cous cous and tomato | |
| * dsas had Chicken Tonight and rice | |
| <gord> I bet my bacon butty was much more satisfying and quicker/easyer/lazyer to make to boot | |
| <tsmithe> urgh | |
| <tsmithe> bacon+butty=): | |
| <tsmithe> that's my back to front similey | |
| <tsmithe> that's my back to front smiley | |
| <jayteeuk> Evening all. | |
| <gord> to bed or to make another bacon butty, that is the question | |
| <jamesbrose> ooo | |
| <jamesbrose> what i would do for a bacon butty right now | |
| <jayteeuk> Quick way to list the devices (Manufacturer and Model) attached to a SCSI adapter anyone? | |
| <tsmithe> lsscsi? | |
| <jayteeuk> Tried that. ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> Looks like I need to be looking in /sys/bus/scsi | |
| <jayteeuk> My tape drive's flashing at me and I need to find a manual so I can figure out why. | |
| <gord> perhaps cat /proc/scsi/scsi ? depends weather ubuntu has that though | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah, this is a Debian Sarge box. | |
| <jamesbrose> ooo | |
| <jamesbrose> kernel updates | |
| <jamesbrose> saucy | |
| <jamesbrose> :P | |
| <jayteeuk> /sys/bus/scsi/devices/<bus id>/model | |
| <jayteeuk> Might not be the best way, but it works for me. :) | |
| <jamesbrose> I feel like a mozzarella sandwich | |
| <jayteeuk> You look like one. | |
| <jamesbrose> haha, my dad always used to say that to me. | |
| <jayteeuk> Damn, now I feel old. | |
| <jayteeuk> "Media Caution Signal" WTF??? | |
| <jamesbrose> eh? | |
| <gord> why is the national lottery on the bbc? why does our licence payers money fund this rubbish? | |
| <dsas> 14p from each £1 ticket does. | |
| <dsas> but uhm, yes, good question. | |
| <dsas> (though 1 vs 100 was fun) | |
| *** tsmithe is now known as TheGods | |
| *** TheGods is now known as tsmithe | |
| *** dsas_ is now known as dsas | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord.. your license money doesnt in this case | |
| <LoudMouthMan> its a govt mandate that the BBC has to carry programmes dictated by its license ( if i remember correctly ) so in this case the lottery pays the bbc for the viewing. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> or so I remember when I last asked that question when the lottery came out! | |
| <gord> well then its just a waste of time, let it be on one of the advertisement channels where it belongs and let our forced fee go towards giving us television we want and not silly stuff that is basically just an advertisement for the lottery | |
| <dsas> the forced fee doesn't fund the lottery tv show. | |
| <dsas> but yes, it should go away. | |
| <jayteeuk> Have they still got Sarah Cawood on there? | |
| <dsas> Remember that the BBCs charter, and a reason for the license fee is to provide tv content for all, and so it can specifically cater to minority viewing figures. | |
| <gord> 'in theory' ;) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord yep . though its in reality another way for the govt to tax people and offset costs of public services away from the public sector. this govt seems to be capable of constantly setting policies which it can declare but for which it doesnt have to be responsible for. | |
| <dsas> if people are stupid enough to buy lottery tickets, then more power to them. | |
| <dsas> (no offence anyone) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I have a new policy I offer people a 1p share in their tickets for a 1% share in any winning over 100k | |
| <tsmithe> "...thank you for calling domino's... ding ding... domino's pizza, sponsoring the simpsons" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i have 200 shares so far so thats two pounds a week for two hundred entries. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im not really making my chance of winning any better but it feels good to have a share possibly | |
| <dsas> your chance of winning is better. it's just that the risk is lower so the payoff is lower. | |
| <gord> back in the early days of the lottery my brother had the same numbers every week, then one week he didn't play and 5 of his numbers plus the bonus ball came up which proves that its not possible for anyone in my family to win, sods law dictates again! | |
| <dsas> If you can call £1 per week a risk. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas indeed. mind you my wife has a stats degree she things im a nutter. | |
| <dsas> heh, I never said you weren't crazy. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i think we should split split large lotteries thuogh and havemorewinners. but you need to look at 1930s germany and russia to see what escallating inflation can do . | |
| <gord> especially to bouncy castles | |
| <dsas> we had more than half of the IS department at work in a euromillions syndicate (250ish people), we won £26 :( | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah .especially them.. but ive always wanted to fill one of those with helium | |
| <jayteeuk> Then puncture it. | |
| *** tsmithe is now known as TheGods | |
| *** TheGods is now known as tsmithe | |
| <dsas> argh, why does amazon require me to put my card details in everytime | |
| * dsas stands up and crosses the room | |
| <jayteeuk> Damn that's annoying. | |
| <tsmithe> whazzat? | |
| <jayteeuk> X crashed. | |
| <jayteeuk> Probably Beryl. | |
| <jayteeuk> My own daft fault for running beta software. ;) | |
| <jamesbrose> g'damn it | |
| <jamesbrose> Watch out if you use the nvidia drivers and your about to upgrade | |
| <jayteeuk> ?? | |
| <jamesbrose> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318206&highlight=ATTENTION | |
| <jamesbrose> Look at it | |
| <jamesbrose> before you upgrade | |
| <jayteeuk> Mine's an ATi card anyway, but my wife's is nVidia. | |
| * dsas pities all of these 'bling' users. | |
| * tsmithe pities dsas | |
| <tsmithe> i use i915 btw | |
| * dsas pities /me too | |
| <dsas> does that crash too? | |
| <tsmithe> nope | |
| <dsas> I can't figure out people exchanging stability for spinny cubes... | |
| <tsmithe> never | |
| <tsmithe> it's free and open source | |
| <dsas> maybe this is me being the grinch again. | |
| <tsmithe> what card/driver/wm do you have? | |
| <dsas> ati mobility something, and metacity | |
| <jayteeuk> dsas: Until yesterday I was the same. | |
| * tsmithe uses metacity atm cos he doesn't want to mess up feisty's desktop-effects (which are buggy atm) | |
| <jayteeuk> I'll probably be the same again in a couple of weeks, after a few more crashes. | |
| <dsas> jayteeuk: Has the shiny done anything to change your mind? | |
| <Seeker`> dsas: if beryl breaks i just switch back to metacity | |
| <jayteeuk> But for now I'm revelling in the bling. It's totally and utterly pointless, but fun. | |
| <chaddy> I'm finding beryl much more stable this afternoon | |
| <chaddy> ;-) | |
| <dsas> tsmithe: As for the driver, I haven't a clue. What the open source default one is called. | |
| <tsmithe> i dunno either | |
| <dsas> well that one, it just doesn't seem worth the hassle of playing with drivers, and breakages and what not.... | |
| <tsmithe> meh i810 supports dri by default | |
| <dsas> tsmithe: fair enough, my ati thingy probably doesn't. | |
| <tsmithe> no | |
| <tsmithe> glxinfo | grep direct | |
| <jayteeuk> There are other minor annoyances, like not snapping to the edge of the screen. | |
| <dsas> direct rendering: yep, though I do get a "3d driver does not support 0x4b" error | |
| <jayteeuk> I get that. | |
| <jayteeuk> Or something similar. | |
| <jayteeuk> "I think it says "claims not to support" or something. | |
| <jayteeuk> Is there a way of telling which kernel module taints the kernel? | |
| <jayteeuk> I thought I was clean after moving away from fglrx, but /proc/sys/kernel/tainted is still 1. | |
| <dsas> jayteeuk: the other big candidate is wifi drivers | |
| <jayteeuk> dsas: bcm43xx? | |
| <jayteeuk> I know I used bcm43xx-fwcutter to get the microcode. | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah well, I'll look at it tomorrow I suppose. | |
| <jayteeuk> It's bed time now. | |
| <jayteeuk> Before I get in trouble. ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> Night all. | |
| <dsas> jayteeuk: bcm43xx is clean, dunno about the firmware | |
| <dsas> jayteeuk: g'night. | |
| <X3N_> do de do | |
| *** X3N_ is now known as X3N |
