| <cellofellow> what's the screen command for detaching? | |
| <burner> screen -d | |
| * burner always runs "screen -dR" | |
| <burner> er... to get out of it is "ctrl+a, ctrl+z" | |
| <burner> er... one last try... "ctrl+a, z" | |
| <t0taln00b> hi all | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> hi you | |
| <t0taln00b> :) | |
| <JKnife> t0taln00b: it should be 70741n00b | |
| <t0taln00b> :D | |
| <t0taln00b> :) | |
| <cellofellow> hello there | |
| * JKnife nut shoots cellofellow | |
| <JKnife> shots* | |
| <JKnife> my health teacher rigged it so i passed | |
| * cellofellow caved in and installed OOo, but it looks like crap. | |
| <JKnife> hehe.. yeah it does.. | |
| <cellofellow> how do I install a color and icon scheme to match my set up? or tell it to use my GTK theme? | |
| <JKnife> stick with VIM and AbiWord | |
| <cellofellow> On my last installation of Xubuntu it looked ok. | |
| <JKnife> it is java IIRC... it uses it own thing.. | |
| <cellofellow> but, IIRC, it can detect local environment settings and attempt to match them. | |
| <JKnife> =\ i can not sell any of my books back | |
| <cellofellow> two Java apps (Azureus and OOo) == slow going. | |
| * JKnife loaths java | |
| <somerville32> There is an os programmed entirely in Java. | |
| <cellofellow> Welcome Commander-Crowe *salutes* | |
| <cellofellow> No way. Really? | |
| <somerville32> JNode.org | |
| <sultanovich> hello | |
| <cellofellow> Is it like a virtualization thing? or is it just all Java userspace programs? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> welcome all | |
| <Commander-Crowe> long time no see | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: neither | |
| <cellofellow> huh | |
| <sultanovich> what is the real requeriments for install xubuntu, sorry my english :) | |
| <somerville32> sultanovich, For Daper or Edgy? | |
| <sultanovich> 6.10 | |
| <cellofellow> somerville32: OOo looks like crap. Any idea how to get it to blend in more? I use the IndustrialTango GTK theme and would love it to be able to use that. | |
| <cellofellow> It looks right now like *gasp* windows. | |
| <JKnife> sultanovich: it is on the site | |
| * JKnife is in and out due to test tomorrow | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: Did you download or install from package? | |
| <somerville32> sultanovich, I'm running 333mhz 2/ 128mb and it is a bit laggy | |
| <JKnife> i am on a 333mHz 256mb and only heavy programs lag on start up | |
| <JKnife> but i am sure that extra 128 helps a lot XD | |
| <somerville32> I only have like 2mb of ram free | |
| <sultanovich> but, in this machine: k6 (233mhz), 128mb, hd 2,6 gb, video 4mb. Can run well? | |
| <somerville32> I think extra ram would help here | |
| <somerville32> <g> | |
| <JKnife> Hostname: B14cKh013 - OS: Linux 2.6.19-7-generic/i586 - CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (334.086 MHz) - Processes: 81 - Uptime: 1d 12h 9m - Load Average: 0.04 - Memory Usage: 163.36MB/249.79MB (65.40%) - Disk Usage: 2.60GB/147.49GB (1.76%) | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <JKnife> sultanovich: might strain due to ram | |
| <JKnife> mine is high due to beryl | |
| <JKnife> and envice, gvim, urxvtd, screen, irssi, centericq | |
| <JKnife> my desktop is all glowie and sutff XD | |
| <somerville32> My comp is slow right now because I have distribution upgrade running | |
| <somerville32> I got a question | |
| <somerville32> I've spent 48 SOLID hours on the computer alone this week (and thats below normal). | |
| <JKnife> nope | |
| <somerville32> Do you think thats normal? | |
| <JKnife> yes | |
| <JKnife> well... | |
| <JKnife> define normal. | |
| <somerville32> How many hours are you on the computer in a week? | |
| <JKnife> hahahaha | |
| <JKnife> ohh jeeze.. | |
| <JKnife> all the time cept in class or sleeping | |
| <sultanovich> I do not understand :( | |
| <JKnife> sultanovich: it should run | |
| <JKnife> you will need the alternate install cd | |
| <sultanovich> thank you, I prove and comment | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: ping | |
| <somerville32> maxamillion, ping | |
| <maxamillion> somerville32: pong | |
| <somerville32> Wanna play a game? | |
| <maxamillion> somerville32: i was actually about to go study for finals but had a question for TheSheep about web development | |
| <somerville32> Alrighty | |
| <maxamillion> somerville32: what game though? (just curious) | |
| <somerville32> maxamillion, liquidwars? <g> | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> Ljl stole my spaghetti recipe and I WANT IT BACK | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> I'm not kidding around here | |
| <somerville32> APPRECIATEIT, How can we help you? | |
| <maxamillion> somerville32: good game, just wish it wasn't soo laggy | |
| * somerville32 nods. | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> Well, with Xubuntu, how do I install the latest Thunar from CVS? Do you have docs? | |
| <somerville32> APPRECIATEIT, There is a graphical installer available if you'd like from xfce.org | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> awesome, thanks | |
| <somerville32> As for the latest from CVS, you'll have to compile and install yourself | |
| <somerville32> It is unsupported though and hence no documentation | |
| <maxamillion> :( | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hey JKnife | |
| <JKnife> who was i in a race to on 100 floors for xjump? | |
| <JKnife> cause i think i jsut won | |
| <JKnife> just* | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> High five, JKnife, High Five! | |
| <JKnife> hi Commander-Crowe | |
| <maxamillion> you will win when you learn to type ;) | |
| * JKnife pops maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> what th..? | |
| <JKnife> stupid op.. always putting me down | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <vn-> uhm why can't I scan for WLANs but I can connect to them? | |
| <JKnife> vn-: umm driver doesn't support it? | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> Ban him, Ban him or I'll msg LjL and have him do it. We can't have random commoners threatening our ops here. Please, think the software | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: you install wifi-radar or something similar? | |
| <vn-> uhm lets see | |
| <JKnife> APPRECIATEIT: i will annoy him on AIM | |
| <JKnife> or -devel | |
| <maxamillion> APPRECIATEIT: he's fine | |
| <vn-> oh cool | |
| <vn-> thx | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> That's grounds for "DISMISSLE" | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: no problem :) | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> And I emphasise the MISSLE part | |
| <JKnife> APPRECIATEIT: =\ .... | |
| <vn-> still I dunno if im better with the wlan-ng or hostap driver | |
| <JKnife> well first of all.. i do not think i am a "random commoner" | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> Where is LjL, he'll deal with this scoundrel like he deals with the rest: Swiftly and Violently | |
| <maxamillion> APPRECIATEIT: lol, well he's a very active regular here and provides many xubuntu newcomers with a sufficient amount of help, so i will tollerate mild mockery | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> You dirty commoner, you know you are below them | |
| <JKnife> and "threatening our ops here" they threaten me | |
| <somerville32> !coc | APPRECIATEIT | |
| <ubotu> APPRECIATEIT: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> You probably don't even write your own startup scripts | |
| <APPRECIATEIT> Commoner | |
| <somerville32> !language | APPRECIATEIT | |
| <ubotu> APPRECIATEIT: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: this guy is getting annoying | |
| *** nalioth sets mode: +b %APPRECIATEIT!*@* | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o somerville32 | |
| *** somerville32 sets mode: +b *!*@d14-69-160-83.try.wideopenwest.com | |
| *** somerville32 sets mode: +d gaim | |
| *** somerville32 sets mode: +b appreciateit!*@* | |
| <JKnife> ty noflex | |
| *** somerville32 sets mode: +b *!n=tmccrary@* | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o somerville32 | |
| <JKnife> nalioth* | |
| <JKnife> and somerville32 | |
| <vn-> with a prism 2.5 wlan card, am I better with wlan-ng or hostap? | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: what did +d do? | |
| <somerville32> Secret. | |
| <JKnife> vn-: sorry, i do not have a prism based wlan card here... | |
| <JKnife> ahh ok | |
| <vn-> k | |
| <nalioth> vn-: it should work out of the box | |
| <vn-> lol | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: and neither do i ... there might be documentation in the wiki's ... lemme try to find you a link | |
| <vn-> kthx | |
| <JKnife> !wlan-ng | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: its a usb? | |
| <JKnife> blah.. what was it to pull up the wlan wiki? | |
| <vn-> pcmcia | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: interesting ... ok, just a moment | |
| <vn-> I got a Senao 2511-EXT2 | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/IntersilPrism25Wavelan?highlight=%28prism%29 <--might help, not sure ... it says to use hostap | |
| <Commander-Crowe> anyone wanna play my at nexiuz? | |
| <JKnife> s|my|me| | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: grrr, i would love to ... just have to study | |
| <Commander-Crowe> eh | |
| <JKnife> and nope... beryl hates full screen apps | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: then select xfwm4, play the game and switch back | |
| <vn-> uhm funny, I got a r40 heh | |
| <vn-> yeahs sounds like im OK with hostap | |
| <vn-> and wifiradar | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: you also forget.. i do not have a sound card on this pc XD | |
| <vn-> I'd just need to setup kismet.conf and my wifi tools are basically ready | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Commander-Crowe: sure | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o somerville32 | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: rgr | |
| <maxamillion> vn-: awesome | |
| *** somerville32 sets mode: -d gaim | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o somerville32 | |
| <maxamillion> ok, time to study ... laters all | |
| <vn-> ack. 8% of battery left | |
| <JKnife> o.O | |
| <JKnife> anyone know the latest on the Ubuntu that uses E17.. like what is the new name? | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o somerville32 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o somerville32 | |
| <Tmob> i upgraded from dapper to edgy and my x server isn't starting up.. can someone help with this please? | |
| <JKnife> why did you upgrade? | |
| <JKnife> and what does the error say? | |
| <Tmob> well i upgraded for the heck of it.. apt-get dist-upgrade | |
| <Tmob> i'm not sure what hte error is.. one i see is: | |
| <JKnife> ok.. you do relise that dapper will be supported longer then edgy right? | |
| <Tmob> error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy | |
| <JKnife> you get a blue screen saying something about gdm unable to start? | |
| <Tmob> yea | |
| <Tmob> i now do startx | |
| <JKnife> and it starts? | |
| <Tmob> i had to remove a bunch of packages which have fglrx in their name and reinstall some xorg-driver-fglrx | |
| <JKnife> ok.. do this | |
| <Tmob> thats fixed the error of.. "fglrx not found" | |
| <Tmob> then i am getting this error | |
| <Tmob> it almost startx and fails | |
| <JKnife> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | |
| <Tmob> like i see the screen flickering like its going into the other mode.. | |
| <JKnife> and make sure it says it finished without error | |
| <Tmob> ok.. running.. | |
| <Tmob> yes it finished ok | |
| <JKnife> ok | |
| <Tmob> shall i put the xorg.0.log somewhere? | |
| <JKnife> nah | |
| <JKnife> see if you can run 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' | |
| <JKnife> well | |
| <JKnife> i am hurt | |
| <JKnife> you left me :( | |
| <Tmob> JKnife, ok it installed the desktop package.. but nothing starts | |
| <Tmob> got disconnected | |
| <Tmob> heh | |
| <JKnife> hehe ok | |
| <Tmob> btw.. i'm on amd64 | |
| <Tmob> but my kernel says -generic... | |
| <Tmob> edgy doesn't have amd64? | |
| <JKnife> it should install the 64bit pkgs by default... | |
| <JKnife> unless there is another repo =\ | |
| <JKnife> but it is ok to run it in a 32bit setup.. | |
| * somerville32 m | |
| <JKnife> =\ | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: what package is the securitypolicy in? or is it made on install? | |
| <somerville32> See: apt-file | |
| <Commander-Crowe> whats the next version of Ubuntu called? | |
| <JKnife> command not found XD | |
| <Tmob> Commander-Crowe, feisty | |
| <JKnife> Commander-Crowe: feisty fawn | |
| <Tmob> hmm | |
| <Tmob> lemme see on packages.ubuntu.com | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I thought feisty was a porn thing | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oh | |
| <Commander-Crowe> shoot | |
| <Commander-Crowe> thats fetish | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ew | |
| <Tmob> x11/xserver-xgl | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I'm not into porn | |
| <JKnife> Tmob: there should be another one... | |
| <JKnife> xserver-xorg? | |
| <Tmob> aah interesting | |
| <Tmob> i just restarted gdm | |
| <Tmob> and it started up fine | |
| <Tmob> but after login, xfce fails and it kills the xserver | |
| <JKnife> bet it was xubuntu-desktop | |
| <JKnife> uhmm error? | |
| <Tmob> i can't see the error.. | |
| <Tmob> is there a place it logs to? | |
| <Tmob> oh i c | |
| <Tmob> something with keytouch | |
| <Commander-Crowe> /var/log | |
| <JKnife> lappy? | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: unban APPRECIATEIT and invite him back only if he agrees to bad mouth anyone... | |
| <Tmob> how do i check if i'm AMD64 or not? | |
| <Tmob> i have a feeling my apt packages are all non-amd64 | |
| <crimsun> dpkg --print-architecture | |
| <Tmob> i just upgraded to edgy from dapper, and i think the apps gui is slow | |
| <Tmob> like when i switch virtual desktops..the lag to draw the apps is definetely noticable.. | |
| <Tmob> takes like 1/2 sec or so... on my other laptop its instantaneous | |
| <Tmob> anyone nkow why this might be happening? | |
| *** max__ is now known as maxamillion | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> hello maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> hey man, what's up? | |
| * maxamillion is "here" but not _here_ ... he is writing an essay portion of one of his finals | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> tight | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, been uber busy ... didn't leave home accept for class and school in the last 2 weeks | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> that sucks | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> get back to work | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> lol | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> im killing time while my laundry dries | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> drys | |
| <maxamillion> rgr | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> whatever | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> lol | |
| <maxamillion> i am always around here though | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> lol | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> let me know when your done i have a question | |
| <maxamillion> !ask | |
| <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> lol | |
| <maxamillion> LambdaChiAlpha: what's up? | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> i can get mp3 support to install on amarock | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> it gives me a fix broken packages | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> then i do | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> then same error | |
| <maxamillion> i don't do amarock, its got kde-lib dependancies and its written in qt ... both things that make me wanna yak | |
| <maxamillion> LambdaChiAlpha: ask in #kubuntu, they can help | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> amarok | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> lol | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> what would be a better alternative to amarok | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> for playing mp3's | |
| <maxamillion> LambdaChiAlpha: depends on what you want the program to do ... there are probably over 100 mp3 players available | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> well for some reason it is installing the mp3 support now | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> i think | |
| <maxamillion> LambdaChiAlpha: good game | |
| <LambdaChiAlpha> i guess turning gnome off did iti | |
| <maxamillion> yeah ... gnome and kde don't get along ... xfce gets along with both :P | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: you use gmail right? | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: yeah | |
| <JKnife> if you use gmail send yourself a email to yourself BUT but a dot in the name.. | |
| <JKnife> like i would send it to gr33n.n1nj4@gmail.com | |
| <maxamillion> why? | |
| <JKnife> you will see... | |
| <maxamillion> i'm busy writting a paper | |
| * JKnife sighs | |
| * JKnife picks up his gmail exploits and leaves | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| *** maxamillion is now known as max_school_work | |
| <Commander-Crowe> tomarrow is my first day of school....ever!!! | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> o.O | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I've been home schooled my whole life | |
| <max_school_work> tomorrow? ... this week is the _last_ of the semester for me | |
| <Commander-Crowe> yeah | |
| <RememberPO1> Hi | |
| <Commander-Crowe> only one week of school | |
| <RememberPO1> How can I manually control CPU scaling features in Xubuntu? (set manually set frequency speed and governor?) | |
| <max_school_work> RememberPO1: that might be part of your acpi config ... | |
| <max_school_work> !acpi | |
| <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64) | |
| <max_school_work> erm... that didn't help much | |
| <RememberPO1> max_school_work: Mainstream Ubuntu has GNOME applets that let them do this | |
| <RememberPO1> plus tools (cpufreq-selector) | |
| <max_school_work> RememberPO1: oh .. yeah, uhmmm... i'm sure there is a xfce plugin for that, just not sure where or what ... | |
| <max_school_work> RememberPO1: sorry if wasn't of help ... someone in #xfce might know the plugin you are looking for | |
| * max_school_work goes back to writing his paper | |
| <RememberPO1> k | |
| *** Commander|away is now known as Commander-Crowe | |
| <miron_> anyone talking? | |
| <somerville32> No, of course not <g> | |
| <miron_> heh | |
| <miron_> apparently not | |
| <miron_> only one other person so fr | |
| <miron_> far* | |
| <max_school_work> we are here for support, nobody is in need atm | |
| <max_school_work> and i have a paper to write :P | |
| <miron_> i would be sleeping | |
| <miron_> but i'm not | |
| <somerville32> Same here miron_ :) | |
| <miron_> anyone know any popular channels? my channel list isn't working | |
| <JKnife> #freenode | |
| <JKnife> #gentoo | |
| <JKnife> #gnu | |
| <JKnife> #welikepie | |
| <miron_> haha | |
| <JKnife> #greenninja (no not really) | |
| <miron_> we like pie | |
| <max_school_work> #python | |
| <max_school_work> #debian | |
| <max_school_work> #ubuntu | |
| <max_school_work> ##linux | |
| <JKnife> irc.enterthegame.com | |
| <JKnife> irc.efnet.net | |
| <miron_> cool, thanks | |
| <JKnife> irc.lcirc.com | |
| <max_school_work> efnet and usenet are both worthless | |
| <miron_> they are? | |
| <miron_> no one there? | |
| <max_school_work> nobody there knows C from VB.NET | |
| <miron_> ha | |
| <max_school_work> and it makes me wanna vomit | |
| <max_school_work> they are just meant to be social irc and they are good for that | |
| <miron_> i like stupid people, they make me feel better about myself | |
| * max_school_work goes back to his essay | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <miron_> what's his essay about? | |
| <JKnife> pir | |
| <JKnife> pie* | |
| <miron_> awesome essay | |
| <JKnife> very | |
| <miron_> "i like pie. pie makes me happy. it makes circles work, and makes me not hungry" | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: philosphy, an array of arguements ... some on religion, some on ethics, others on the ignorance of man ... etc . | |
| <miron_> ah, aka something i don't understand too much. | |
| <max_school_work> lol | |
| <max_school_work> its interesting, but at the end of the day its just pointless mental stimulation | |
| <miron_> pointless mental stimulation reminds me of school so much it isn't even funny | |
| <miron_> well, it is | |
| <miron_> but my point stands | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Philosophy class? | |
| <miron_> i would take it | |
| <JKnife> who wants to see my latest screenshot XD (not it will NOT stay like this long) | |
| <miron_> sure | |
| <miron_> cool background | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <JKnife> shame on me? | |
| <miron_> hah | |
| <miron_> is it really vista, or only a skin? | |
| <JKnife> XFCE | |
| <miron_> no shame for you | |
| <JKnife> amazing huh? | |
| <miron_> yeah | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: link me ... i have to see this | |
| <JKnife> i am also using the vista window border theme | |
| * JKnife waits on Adam to do '/dcc get' | |
| <miron_> adam? | |
| <JKnife> max_school_work = Adam | |
| <miron_> huh | |
| <miron_> and here i was using my real name | |
| <JKnife> hahaha | |
| <miron_> i bet your name isn't jknife at all, huh? | |
| <JKnife> we use our real names.. you can find mine is about 4 different ways | |
| <miron_> lets see, whois | |
| <miron_> asking | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: yeah | |
| <miron_> uhh | |
| <miron_> don't know the other 2 | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: we are a tightly knit community :) | |
| <miron_> heh | |
| <JKnife> miron_: whois, -devel ml, my wiki page and my LP profile | |
| <miron_> that works | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdamMiller <--- me | |
| * max_school_work is normally known as maxamillion ... just busy | |
| <JKnife> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WesleyHearn -- me XD | |
| <somerville32> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CodySomerville <-- me | |
| <miron_> i know someone named maxxum | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: that is really your last name? o.O | |
| <JKnife> far out | |
| <JKnife> max_school_work: well lets see what xfce can do.. it can act like gnome, vista, *box, | |
| <JKnife> XFCE FTW! | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: lol, your screenie is awesome ... i am sooo showing my boss that ... i'll be like "look, even linux can be vista before windows can" | |
| <miron_> i like xfce because nobody knows how to open things | |
| <JKnife> haha | |
| <miron_> they never think to right-click | |
| <miron_> or use the top menu | |
| <JKnife> miron_: i have right click disabled.. to be more.. windows like XD | |
| <miron_> i would have thought the best thing for windows skins would be kde | |
| <JKnife> :) | |
| <JKnife> KDE was sooo XP | |
| <JKnife> XFCE is sooo Vista | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: you would be surprised how powerful xfce is | |
| <miron_> well, i am using it | |
| <max_school_work> :) | |
| <JKnife> you just have to fondel it right | |
| <max_school_work> lol | |
| <miron_> it's creepy that that phrase reminds me of my friend | |
| <miron_> my favourite quote from him | |
| <miron_> "did you leave her alone" | |
| <miron_> "yeah, but i was watching her and her boyfriend through their window" | |
| <JKnife> !offtopic | miron_ | |
| <ubotu> miron_: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: this is my work desktop setup ... dual monitors, my home machine is the same accept no beryl and only 1 screen (the left one naturally) | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: http://www.swooh.com/home/adam/xubuntu/berylGears.png (forgot the link) | |
| <max_school_work> :) | |
| <miron_> nice | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: nobody is in here ... its alright, just have to switch if someone comes in asking for help | |
| <miron_> i'm on a laptop | |
| <miron_> yeah | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: if nobody is being disturbed then it is alright | |
| <miron_> xfce has so much better battery than windows | |
| <JKnife> :( but ti was my first time doing !offtopic | |
| <JKnife> s|ti|it| | |
| <miron_> ? | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: yeah, i get better battery life on my iBookG4 under xubuntu than i did with os x | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: i sorry | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: you can move there if you want ... i need to write ... | |
| <miron_> uses much less processor i guess | |
| <JKnife> i am good.. XD | |
| <max_school_work> miron_: less processor and less hard drive | |
| <miron_> yeah | |
| * max_school_work goes back to his paper | |
| * miron_ idly taps his hand on the desk | |
| <JKnife> miron_: install xjump and try and beat 106 | |
| <miron_> all right | |
| <miron_> whoa | |
| <miron_> my terminal wasn't root | |
| <JKnife> so? | |
| <miron_> that never happens | |
| <miron_> brb, xjump | |
| <miron_> dang | |
| <JKnife> level? | |
| * miron_ has a new productivity waster | |
| <miron_> 45 | |
| <miron_> highest so far | |
| <JKnife> hehe | |
| <JKnife> it gets FAST | |
| <JKnife> ohh and you can jump 2 - 3 levels at once.. if you do it right | |
| <miron_> heh | |
| <miron_> i love it when like 6 levels are on top of each other | |
| <miron_> just tap up | |
| <JKnife> yeah | |
| <JKnife> or space... space jumps | |
| <miron_> oh, cool | |
| <miron_> ahh, 52 | |
| <JKnife> hehe | |
| <miron_> fun but hard | |
| <JKnife> yeah.. | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: does centericq do jabber? | |
| <JKnife> max_school_work: yes | |
| <JKnife> in the accounts it is called "jab" | |
| <max_school_work> oh, ok ... because i think i am going to ditch aim and just use google talk | |
| <JKnife> hehe | |
| <max_school_work> not sure just yet ... but thinking about it | |
| <JKnife> max_school_work: ohh cool.. sign on google talk and msg me at jaggedknife@gmail.com | |
| <JKnife> i wanna test the gpg thingie | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: why sign on, can use the web interface from my email | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: what gpg thingy? | |
| <JKnife> centericq lets me sign my jabber messages with a gpg key | |
| <max_school_work> interesting | |
| <max_school_work> didn't think google supported gpg | |
| <max_school_work> gmail* | |
| <JKnife> if the jabber protocal does so does google talk | |
| <JKnife> if nothing else all you will see is a inline pgp signuture | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: doesn't say you are signed on | |
| <JKnife> jaggedknife@gmail.com right? | |
| * JKnife has more then one gmail | |
| <JKnife> wb | |
| <miron_> that is too much fun | |
| <miron_> it is inhumanly fun for such a simple game | |
| <JKnife> haha | |
| <max_school_work> JKnife: yeah jaggedknife | |
| <JKnife> try gr33nninj4 | |
| <JKnife> gr33nn1nj4* | |
| <miron_> program? | |
| <max_school_work> no ... not now, i need to write my paper ... we can play with google later | |
| <JKnife> okies | |
| <JKnife> miron_: google talk and centericq | |
| <miron_> ah | |
| <miron_> mine is miron721 | |
| <JKnife> thats nice | |
| <miron_> for google talk, at least | |
| <JKnife> you signed in? | |
| <miron_> yeah | |
| <JKnife> you get that? | |
| <miron_> no | |
| <somerville32> http://www.osnews.com/story.php/16681/Ubuntu-King-of-Distros-for-2006/ | |
| <miron_> i might have something like "only friends can talk" or something | |
| <JKnife> i am getting a error 503 | |
| <miron_> on the news? | |
| <JKnife> no | |
| <JKnife> centericq | |
| <miron_> huh | |
| <miron_> oh, duh, only google talk account is miron721 | |
| <miron_> i totally knew that | |
| <max_school_work> somerville32: i read that .. i was glad to see that even though ubuntu has taken the spot light, debian isn't dropping from mainstream because we owe everything to debian and its developers | |
| <JKnife> and pie | |
| <miron_> yes, the all important pie | |
| <max_school_work> somerville32: i agree with the trend to a point, but from what i have read about openSuSE10.2, we have our work cut out for us in feisty | |
| <JKnife> max_school_work: suse is still a headache | |
| <JKnife> ok | |
| * JKnife heads to bed | |
| <miron_> you have to pay for suse, don't you | |
| <miron_> ? | |
| <miron_> yes. | |
| <JKnife> no | |
| <JKnife> not openSuSE | |
| <miron_> opensuse, no | |
| <JKnife> or the old versions as you could pirate them legally | |
| <miron_> i have never heard pirate and legally in the same sentence. | |
| <miron_> lol | |
| <JKnife> i will dig you up the eula of 9.2 later.. | |
| <miron_> nah, i'm good with ubuntu | |
| <JKnife> ok.. good night | |
| <miron_> g'night | |
| *** max_school_work is now known as maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> ok ... done with that | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hey guys | |
| <maxamillion> hello | |
| <Commander-Crowe> no coding? | |
| * somerville32 is dancing to "I don't need a man." | |
| <Commander-Crowe> are you a girl somerville32 ? | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: nope, done for the semester with code | |
| * maxamillion thanks god because ada is a horrible language | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ah | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ew ew ew | |
| <somerville32> Commander-Crowe, No. | |
| <maxamillion> errr ... thanks $DEITY | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ada is something I wish I can never learn | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: why do you have to learn it? | |
| <somerville32> Commander-Crowe, Everyone knows that girls don't exist on the internet. | |
| <crimsun> you'll be glad to know that Ada is used in just about every defense contractor's software engineering division. | |
| <maxamillion> yes they do, just not in linux irc | |
| <crimsun> several do. | |
| <crimsun> (I've worked at two.) | |
| <maxamillion> crimsun: yeah, i know ... and its error handling is wonderful and i completely understand why they use it .... i just don't think any desktop software should ever be written in ada | |
| <somerville32> I looked at some Ada source code and it looks gross. | |
| <crimsun> the requirements are normally so divergent that Ada would never be considered for a desktop application. | |
| <maxamillion> crimsun: true | |
| <somerville32> Didn't they try to standardize the language used in the defence sector and Ada was the pick at the time? | |
| <crimsun> Ada is what we call "designed [to death] by committee" | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, and ada is so strongly typed i want to barf | |
| <Commander-Crowe> whats the best well rounded language out there? C? | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .... etc. | |
| <Commander-Crowe> it was a joke btw | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: ermmm ... now that i have finished laughing enough to type, honestly there is no "best" language in any aspect ... its mainly about application, there are some that are more commonly prefered or more commonly recommended, but at the end of the day it just depends on what you need it for | |
| <Commander-Crowe> sorry | |
| <Commander-Crowe> not good at it | |
| <maxamillion> oh .... lol | |
| <maxamillion> i needed a XD, a :P ... or even a ;) | |
| <maxamillion> didn't catch it :) | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I'm gonna work on database languages | |
| <Commander-Crowe> that way I'm never out of a job | |
| <somerville32> lino is obviously the best programming language <g> | |
| <Commander-Crowe> lino? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> never heard of it | |
| <maxamillion> whitespace is obviously the best programming language | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ah | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: if you are to work with databases ... learn java, php and python ... maybe some .NET/Mono (i don't like them, but there is money to be made there) | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Prolog :o | |
| <Commander-Crowe> Yeah | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I'm into python right now | |
| <somerville32> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linoleum_(programming_language) | |
| <Commander-Crowe> even though I have nothing to practice on | |
| <maxamillion> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 | |
| <maxamillion> somerville32: is lino legit? ... because that's really cool | |
| <somerville32> Of course lino is legit ;p | |
| <maxamillion> oh ... because whitespace is a joke | |
| <Commander-Crowe> if you want a python with GUI what else would you use? QT? GTK+? | |
| <maxamillion> gtk!!! | |
| <maxamillion> qt annoys me | |
| <maxamillion> pygtk ftw | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ok | |
| <NamelessJon> So, I have a small question. My .bash_profile is named correctly, right? And if so, does anyone have an idea why xubuntu is ignoring it? | |
| <somerville32> How is it ignoring it? | |
| <NamelessJon> It should be testing to see if ~/bin exists and adding it to my path if it does, as the obvious one. | |
| <NamelessJon> So I'm a little puzzled, since it used to work, before I switched from K to Xubuntu ... | |
| <maxamillion> off to bed ... night all, wish my luck on my exams tomorrow | |
| *** Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch | |
| <somerville32> Who here plays xjump? | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: I DO!!! | |
| <g1gaman> gentlemen, why can't i boot xubuntu from live cd (it says: unable to locate rsdp)? is it possible to fix it? | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: that message is just a warning, give it some more time | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: I assume it's an old computer, so loading kernel can take some time | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: is 30 min enough or should i wait longer, sir? | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: that's more than enough | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: no other messages? | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: no, sir :/ | |
| <g1gaman> just acpi: unable to locate rsdp | |
| <g1gaman> maybe that computer is just TOO old? | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: can you check the cd for defects? (there is an option for that in the boot menu) | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: no | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: a 386 would be new enough, probably :) | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: i guess there is no defects, because i copied entire cd to other computers hdd | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: and there were no errors while copying, sir | |
| <TheSheep> how much ram does that computer have? | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: that old machine is pII 233mhz with 80mb (64mb+16mb) ram, sir | |
| <TheSheep> hmm.. I have a P90 with 96Mb and it works :/ | |
| <TheSheep> didn't try live cd on it, though | |
| <TheSheep> you know, livecd requires minimum 128Mb of ram | |
| <g1gaman> ah oh | |
| <g1gaman> so | |
| <TheSheep> alternate cd requires 64Mb | |
| <TheSheep> but it only has installer, no live cd | |
| <g1gaman> it's ok, if it's similar to installers of previos versions, sir | |
| <g1gaman> is it? | |
| <TheSheep> it's a text-mode installer | |
| <TheSheep> but with menus and stuff | |
| <g1gaman> :( | |
| <TheSheep> another option would be to put the hdd into another computer, install it, and then put it back | |
| <TheSheep> ubiquity (the graphical installer) is very ram-hungry, I'm afraid | |
| <g1gaman> i've installed ubuntu 4.10 few years ago. is xubuntu alternates install menu similar to it? | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: probably, I never saw 4.10 | |
| <TheSheep> but I think it's the same as was in breezy | |
| <g1gaman> i'll try it anyway | |
| <g1gaman> thank you sir | |
| <TheSheep> good luck | |
| <NamelessJon> Hi Sheep | |
| <TheSheep> hi NamelessJon | |
| <TheSheep> a fan of Pratchett? | |
| <NamelessJon> I am, yes. | |
| <TheSheep> .oO( why sir? ) | |
| * NamelessJon eyes the sheep slightly weirdly | |
| * TheSheep bites NamelessJon's head off | |
| <Mastus> is the echo robot in ekiga down? if I call sip:500@ekiga.net, I get "Remote user is unreachable" | |
| <Mastus> Or is it a NAT problem? | |
| <TheSheep> Mastus: I have the same | |
| <Mastus> TheSheep: But you have a working VoIP-config? | |
| <Mastus> Just the robot is down? | |
| * NamelessJon looks back in, finds he has no head O.o | |
| <TheSheep> Mastus: probably, never really tested it, but it should be working | |
| <NamelessJon> Hrm. If I download xfce themes, where do I put them to use them? | |
| <TheSheep> NamelessJon: unpack them to ~/.themes firectory | |
| <NamelessJon> Thanks, sheep. | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: what is the minimal system requirements for xubuntu to work, sir? i see various opinions in forums, so maybe i shouldn't even try to install it with 80 mb of ram? | |
| <Mastus> g1gaman: I think that the Alternate Install CD, should install with 64MB, but I'm not sure... | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: people have different opinions on what is "acceptable speed" and of course use different applications | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: firefox and openoffice are pretty memory-hungry, while other applications will have much lower requirements | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: it all boils down to what you do and how fast you want it done | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: sir, what browser should i use then? | |
| <TheSheep> if yuo don't mind non-opensource software, them Opera is pretty fast and still feature-rich | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: except lynx :) | |
| <TheSheep> it looks ugly on a gtk desktop, because it uses qt, but is pretty fast | |
| <TheSheep> of course not as fast as lynx, w3m or dillo | |
| <TheSheep> fasterfox is also an option -- it's an optimized version of firefox | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: i use opera on ubuntu edgy and i do not care how it looks, sir. so you reccomend opera for xubuntu on very slow computers? | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: how about swiftfox? | |
| <TheSheep> ah, sorry, I meant swiftfox, fasterfox is an extension for firefox | |
| <g1gaman> are w3m and dillo graphical browsers, sir? | |
| <TheSheep> it's faster, but still uses much memory -- especially if you have lots of tabs opened | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: w3m is like lynx, but can also display images, dillo is graphical, but doesn't support css | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: thank you again | |
| <silvertip257> I was wondering if there is an application similar to the "My Briefcase" (a.k.a. syncapp on Windows) for Linux | |
| <TheSheep> rsync | |
| <silvertip257> thanks TheSheep | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: it's a cli app | |
| <silvertip257> cli app ? | |
| <TheSheep> command line interface application | |
| <TheSheep> you proabably want o set it up in some scripts or something to automate synchronizing | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep my situation is I have work I put together for school & carry it back & forth | |
| <silvertip257> so I'd like to sync it all when I feel like it | |
| <silvertip257> cause the USB drive will not always be plugged in when i'm using my home comp | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: well, I'd add rsync to udev rules so that it's run every time I plug the usb drive | |
| <silvertip257> oh ok ... that's foreign to me (I havent had time to play w/ my Xunbuntu much) | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: or just make some "synchronize" icon that would run rsync | |
| <silvertip257> ahhh | |
| <TheSheep> with the needed parameters | |
| <silvertip257> ok | |
| <silvertip257> so pretty much I write a script to update when i click an icon & that's it | |
| <silvertip257> ok thanks a million TheSheep ... hopefully I'll see you in here in the future | |
| <silvertip257> especially when I'm starting to customize and add the features I want to my Xubuntu | |
| <silvertip257> :) | |
| <Pohket> Was wondering if someone could help me with an XUbuntu 6.10 issue... I'm trying to switch to a text console (Ctrl-Alt-F1 thru F6), but I don't seem to be getting anywhere... I'm assuming that they're not loading at startup, but I'm not sure where to go from there... | |
| <JKnife> sounds like your keyboard isn't set up right | |
| <TheSheep> Pohket: do you get a blank screen at least? | |
| <Pohket> Nothing - doesn't switch, just stays in X | |
| <TheSheep> Pohket: you're using the left ctrl and left alt? | |
| <Pohket> Tried both left and right | |
| * TheSheep imagines Pohket trying left ctrl, right alt and f1 | |
| <TheSheep> ouch | |
| <TheSheep> Pohket: did you use your nose? ;) | |
| <Pohket> I mean the pairs | |
| <TheSheep> anyways, it should work -- I can think of two cases -- the key combination is mapped to something else, or the virtual console switching is disabled in xorg.conf | |
| <TheSheep> Pohket: did you change any settings in your intallation? | |
| <Pohket> Nope - it's a fairly standard install from the ISO | |
| <Pohket> BRB - going to reboot | |
| <mkaster> hey, how do I edit the modules file? | |
| <TheSheep> sudo mousepad /etc/modules | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: sir! tell me if it is possible to install xubuntu on 2 harddisks 1.5 gb each. how is better to manage partitions then | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: you can use lvm and create a "virtual" partition using both disks | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: ok, but you can tell me how? | |
| <g1gaman> now i am exactly at partitioning step (using alternate cd) | |
| <TheSheep> let me think | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: maybe it is easier to move some partitions to hdb? | |
| <TheSheep> installing system entirely on an lvm partition is nontrivial :/ | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: yes, it's easier, but the partition you want to move, /usr, is likely to me larger than 1.5G | |
| <NamelessJon> Well, the xubunutu root is ~200mb and then ~1.2gb (I think) in /usr | |
| <TheSheep> but what's with additional software :/ | |
| <NamelessJon> (well, the / wasn't including /var or /tmp ,but those can both be fairly small. | |
| <NamelessJon> Well, hrm. lemme see, I think I have firefox, thunderbird, build essential, gnuplot, ruby/rake etc on there too. | |
| <TheSheep> the best option would be to install with root at, say, 300MB of hda, and the /usr and /home at an lvm partition created from the rest | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: the situation is: hda = 1.3 gb, hdb = 1.7 gb | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: ah, ok, then just use hdb for /usr | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: and hda for / ? | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: yes, and swap | |
| <NamelessJon> Yeah, that's probably best. | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep, NamelessJon, thank you gentlemen, i'll do exactly what you said | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep, NamelessJon, how big should /swap be? | |
| <g1gaman> well, large | |
| <g1gaman> or how it says in english | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: a rule of thumb is twice your ram | |
| <TheSheep> g1gaman: but not smaller than 200MB, I'd say | |
| <g1gaman> TheSheep: let it be 250mb then, thank you | |
| * NamelessJon goes for dinner! yay food. | |
| <TheSheep> 255MB will align better ;) | |
| <g1gaman> ok | |
| <g1gaman> should swap be at the begining or at the end of hda? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> The end. | |
| <g1gaman> PuMpErNiCkEl: thank you | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> np | |
| <NamelessJon> back. Just out of curiousity, why should it be at the end? | |
| <gripir> anyone with a raptor m2 mouse? | |
| <gripir> I dont know how to enable all 7 buttons ... they work in xev :) | |
| <gripir> but dont know how to change the xorg.conf | |
| <gripir> cant find a suitable thread in the wiki | |
| <maxamillion> gripir: i can't seem to either | |
| <gripir> :S | |
| <maxamillion> gripir: i only even vaguely know of that mouse, and don't own one | |
| <gripir> it works fine | |
| <gripir> hmm maybe I find a mouse with 7buttons :D | |
| <maxamillion> gripir: http://www.google.com/linux <--search there, that would be my only recommendation | |
| <gripir> yeah I do, I do :) | |
| <gripir> thy anyway | |
| <maxamillion> gripir: sorry i'm not of much more help :/ | |
| <maxamillion> anyhoo ... i have to go take an exam | |
| <maxamillion> bbl | |
| <gripir> no problem | |
| *** maxamillion is now known as max_final_exams | |
| *** MagicFab_ is now known as Magicfab | |
| <jarnoz> Power management does not work for my computer, except for monitor | |
| <jarnoz> https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1928 | |
| <jarnoz> Is there something Xubuntu-specific in power management? | |
| <kuto_> hi | |
| <somerville32> !welcome | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <somerville32> Err.. | |
| <somerville32> Welcome! :) | |
| <kuto_> hi somerville32 | |
| <somerville32> How are you kuto_ ? | |
| <kuto_> somerville32: do you know how to make the icons on the desktop not highlight the name? | |
| <kuto_> does anyone know how to make the icons on the desktop not highlight the name? | |
| <somerville32> I'm not sure what you mean | |
| <kuto_> my xfdesktop just quited on me | |
| <somerville32> kuto_: Applications > Settings > Desktop. Then check off "Let xfdesktop manage the desktop" | |
| <kuto_> somerville32: i dont want my icon fonts to be highlighted how do i go about doing that | |
| * somerville32 has no idea. | |
| *** max_final_exams is now known as maxamillion | |
| * JKnife pokes somerville32 | |
| * somerville32 pokes JKnife back. | |
| <JKnife> meanies | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: i am running Xubuntu Feista XD | |
| <somerville32> Yea! :] | |
| <JKnife> one sec.. i will give you a screen shot | |
| * maxamillion is back | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: you back to the config from yesterday? | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: been tweaking it some.. it looks a lot better now | |
| <JKnife> somerville32: see Feista XD | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: send me!!! and i wanna see one with an application open so i can see the window borders | |
| <JKnife> it has Thunar open | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: i want multiple ... gotta show my boss, it will be funny | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: awesome | |
| <maxamillion> where's my dcc? | |
| <JKnife> 16:02 DCC SEND request sent to maxamillion: 11-12-2006_1x768-capture.jpg | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: oh ... hrh ... /dcc get ... right? | |
| <JKnife> yeah | |
| <maxamillion> rgr | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: do '/set dcc_autoget on' | |
| <JKnife> and it will automaticly do /dcc get for ya | |
| <somerville32> : O | |
| <somerville32> Wow | |
| <JKnife> :) | |
| <JKnife> XFCE FTW! | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: the icons in thunar don't match ... other than that it looks awesome | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: =\ well i can not find a Vista icon theme... help me fond one and i will take a screenie with it | |
| <maxamillion> ermm... ok | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: where did you get the icons for the desktop? | |
| <JKnife> ohh umm... google XD | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <JKnife> they are png.. so i might be able to hack my own theme togather real quick | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=32227 | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: 5 seconds | |
| <JKnife> ok | |
| <maxamillion> :P | |
| <JKnife> guess google just hates me | |
| <maxamillion> didn't google | |
| <maxamillion> xfce-look.org, its where i look for everything xfce eye candy | |
| <JKnife> "icons removed" | |
| <JKnife> under changelog | |
| <maxamillion> :( | |
| <maxamillion> noob | |
| <somerville32> !noob | maxamillion | |
| <ubotu> maxamillion: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. | |
| <somerville32> <g> | |
| <maxamillion> lol, ok ok | |
| <maxamillion> what is jfgi? | |
| <maxamillion> never heard that one | |
| <ompaul> google it | |
| <maxamillion> rgr | |
| <maxamillion> lawl! | |
| <JKnife> i like that one | |
| * JKnife takes note of it | |
| <JKnife> i will use it in notice XD | |
| <JKnife> and "read the freaking manual" is not welcome? | |
| <ompaul> correct | |
| <ompaul> give a real answer | |
| <ompaul> or don't answer | |
| <JKnife> what about "read the freaking wiki"? i mean 99% of the anwsers are there | |
| <ompaul> give the URL | |
| <ompaul> the actual one | |
| <JKnife> hehe | |
| <ompaul> or don't give one at all | |
| * JKnife pets ubotu | |
| <maxamillion> we should get a bot in here that can search the wikis | |
| <JKnife> !WesleyHearn | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WesleyHearn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <JKnife> nope... | |
| * ompaul declares maxamillion to be a bot for searching wikis | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <ompaul> maxamillion, just go google it | |
| <ompaul> :P | |
| <maxamillion> negative | |
| * JKnife secounds that movement | |
| <JKnife> seconds// | |
| <maxamillion> i could actually setup a bot on my test server at work for it, if i weren't so lazy | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: go play XJump | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: lol, i _should_ be studying for my philosophy final exam ... but i'm not | |
| <JKnife> hehe | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: found one... | |
| <maxamillion> w00t | |
| <JKnife> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28352 | |
| <maxamillion> wait ... is w00t allowed? ... | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: ah yes, gnome ... keep forgetting about that project | |
| <maxamillion> :P | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: no w00t is not allowed | |
| <maxamillion> !woot | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <maxamillion> !w00t | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w00t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <maxamillion> w00t! | |
| <somerville32> !fishing | |
| <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-) | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <maxamillion> rgr | |
| <somerville32> ubotu runs on like an old clunker of a machine | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runs on like an old clunker of a machine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <JKnife> bot abouse and !ops annoys the ops.. =) | |
| <somerville32> :/ | |
| * maxamillion wonders how it works if a chan op abuses the bot :P | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: are you in !ops ? | |
| <somerville32> Jknife: type: /msg ubotu ops-#xubuntu | |
| <NamelessJon> You're supposed to get angry and stop yourself? *shrugs* | |
| <maxamillion> probably | |
| <JKnife> /msg ubotu ops-#xubuntu | |
| <JKnife> nothing | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, i'm there :) | |
| <JKnife> hiya gnomefreak | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <JKnife> ok maxamillion lettme take a new ss with these new icons | |
| <lokomotive> hi | |
| <maxamillion> w00t! :) | |
| <lokomotive> not many pople | |
| <maxamillion> hiya lokomotive | |
| <lokomotive> is XFCe easy to use? | |
| <JKnife> there ya go | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: extremely | |
| <lokomotive> how can I switch from gnome | |
| <JKnife> lokomotive: it is so easy.. it reminds me of Windows Vista | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: don't listen to JKnife | |
| <lokomotive> do you guys reccomend it for a 500Mhz 180RAM? | |
| <JKnife> Hostname: B14cKh013 - OS: Linux 2.6.19-7-generic/i586 - CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (334.102 MHz) - Processes: 87 - Uptime: 17h 30m - Load Average: 0.95 - Memory Usage: 136.42MB/249.79MB (54.61%) - Disk Usage: 3.24GB/147.49GB (2.20%) | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: oh yeah, it will be perfectly find | |
| <maxamillion> fine* | |
| <JKnife> i am even running beryl | |
| <lokomotive> I've used it before but not with ubuntu | |
| <JKnife> lokomotive: just install xubuntu-desktop and chose it via the session options | |
| <JKnife> (at the gdm prompt) | |
| <lokomotive> maxamillion: well i have stinky vesa driver 'cause the last SIS x driver is fucked up beyyond being fuckable | |
| <lokomotive> ok thanks JKnife | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: =\ now i gotta figure out what todo with those white lines | |
| <JKnife> !language | |
| <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: you just install the xubuntu-desktop package and then select xfce as your session from the gdm login screen | |
| <lokomotive> sorry | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: yeah, they weren't there last night | |
| <lokomotive> I am just mad about that driver, it would make things better | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: that was the wii theme.. which didn''t really have the vista feel | |
| <JKnife> but other then that.. feista is looking good XD | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: oh ok ... :P | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: that it would | |
| <lokomotive> ok I will install xfce NOW | |
| <JKnife> ok.. everyone Fesita version 0.7 http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6770/vistapk7.jpg | |
| <JKnife> i think Feista is a fitting name... don't ya agree? | |
| <lokomotive> is this aright ? sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <JKnife> yes | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: yeah, i recommend aptitude though .. but apt-get will suffice | |
| <lokomotive> it's not working :-9 | |
| <lokomotive> :-( | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: hrmmm... that's not good | |
| <lokomotive> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6770/vistapk7.jpg | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: that is what we can sell Xubuntu on XD j/p | |
| * TheSheep eagerly awaits for the user interface to disappear completely from the screens | |
| <lokomotive> installing xubuntu!!! | |
| <JKnife> TheSheep: why? | |
| <maxamillion> yey!!! | |
| <lokomotive> anyone using Amarok with Xubuntu | |
| <TheSheep> JKnife: because that's the future | |
| <JKnife> lokomotive: i do not belive in evil programs | |
| <JKnife> TheSheep: ehh good point | |
| <maxamillion> lokomotive: no, its requires kde libraries and those slow things down | |
| <lokomotive> gotta a problem I trie to burn mp3 and tells me format not recognized and GnomeBaker does it .. what the hack? | |
| <JKnife> mp3? | |
| <TheSheep> there was this gtk-based music player similar to amarok, how was it called? exaile/ | |
| <lokomotive> sorry, i meant K3B | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: you need libxine-extracodecs probably | |
| <lokomotive> anyone using K3B | |
| <TheSheep> or whatever codecs k3b uses | |
| <lokomotive> 'cause I am intslling this to a guy uterly non-geeky non-techie | |
| <TheSheep> gnomebaker uses gstreamer, k3b surely uses something else | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: for non-techie a simplier media player would be better | |
| <lokomotive> Gnomebaker can't burn DVD's and CD on the fly ATM, and K3B does averrythig | |
| <cellofellow> connection glitch | |
| <cellofellow> http://cellofellow.homelinux.net | |
| <cellofellow> what do you see? | |
| * cellofellow can't see if it works from this side of the NAT | |
| <lokomotive> TheSheep: well K3B's on the fly is awsome... I need something that burns on the fly DVD's CD's so far only K3B can. Very disappointed that GnomeBaker can't do this | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: it doesn't | |
| <cellofellow> nothing? | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: nothing | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: it did last time I checked | |
| <lokomotive> TheSheep: how | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: you see my desktop? | |
| <cellofellow> not even an empty directory? which is what's there now. | |
| <cellofellow> yes JKnife. very cool, but not original enough. | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: there is a checkbutton in the burning options | |
| <lokomotive> i have it right here in front of my very OWN eyes and can't see it | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: "on the fly" or something like that | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: :( but it is xfce | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: where the "burnproof" is | |
| <lokomotive> TheSheep: on the fly DVD-to-DVD CD-toCD | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: nope, firefox is still trying to load it | |
| <cellofellow> yes I know, but we can't sell Xubuntu on being a windows clone. | |
| <lokomotive> i've got to DVD's drivers | |
| <lokomotive> two DVD/CD | |
| <cellofellow> maybe my DNS got messed up again. | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: what do you use for web development? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: vim | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: and gimp | |
| <lokomotive> TheSheep: where's that option? | |
| <JKnife> dreamweaver and photoshop? | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: what language? ... php, python, etc? ... you do any frameworks like ruby on rails at all? | |
| * cellofellow uses Bluefish and Inkscape and Gimp. | |
| <TheSheep> lokomotive: I don't have gnomebaker installed now, I can't check for sure | |
| <cellofellow> I like drawing with inkscape | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: who doesn't? | |
| <lokomotive> so it doesn't | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: :D | |
| <cellofellow> my friend who likes Corel Draw better. | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: when I need a webapp, I usually use python. I can do php and perl too. No frameworks, but have used MoinMoin and Oddmuse for things they definitely wasn't designed for ;) | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: what is homelinux.net and how do i make my own? :) | |
| <cellofellow> he has an old version on cd. | |
| <JKnife> i have it installed just so i can to the sprial thingy | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: dynamic dns. dyndns.com check it out. they have like 60 domains you can be a subdomain of. | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: oh ok, cool cool .. i guess i need to look into how python does web stuff once i learn it | |
| <TheSheep> JKnife: I think the last inkscape has "lay out" option for that | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: for free? | |
| <cellofellow> yup | |
| <cellofellow> ok, try again. http://cellofellow.homelinux.net | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: well, cgi is the same as with any other script, you can also use it as a standalone web server | |
| * cellofellow got ip and dns addresses all mixed up. | |
| <JKnife> index of | |
| <JKnife> it worked XD | |
| <cellofellow> ok. perfect. a clean slate | |
| * cellofellow has to go practice cello now | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: interesting ... well, i know nothing about web development, but i think it is something i would like to eventually learn about | |
| <JKnife> ok.. be mellow my little fellow | |
| * TheSheep listens to ELO's cellos now | |
| <JKnife> hehe | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: kwiki? | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: what is your favorite wiki? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: oddmuse | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: if you're asking about engine | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: The C2 if you are asking about a site | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: different wikis use the same engine? ... like how different browsers use gecko? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: more like different fora use phpbb | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: or different sites use drupal | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: ah, ok | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: what wiki is the welcome page setup on? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: oddmuse | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: it looks very theme-able ... is that a feature or something you just know how to do? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: that's just a question of writing the css file | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: how have you been? ... haven't really seen you around much (random side note) | |
| <maxamillion> ah, another thing i need to learn ... css | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: well, I've got fever recently, so I went to bed early | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: css is the key to web design | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: oh well, sleep if good for the ill feelings ... feeling better i hope? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: html is practically irrelevant, as long as it's correct | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: yes, thank you | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: good to hear .... hrmmm, first thing to learn after final examinations will be python and then on to css | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: would you mind moving to devel with me? i have an idea to throw your way | |
| <JKnife> throw it here... | |
| <JKnife> :( | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: ping? | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: its devel stuff ... join if you like | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: you see the kwiki? | |
| <cellofellow> that's not good, it should be an empty directory. | |
| <cellofellow> kwiki is just a little wiki. | |
| <cellofellow> perl cgi. | |
| <maxamillion> interesting | |
| <cellofellow> you should see an empty directory. I set up a virtual host. | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: how do i set this dyndns to use port 8080 instead of 80? | |
| <cellofellow> dyndns just sets the address. I can do all the ports on my dyndns address. | |
| <cellofellow> like ssh on port 22 | |
| <cellofellow> http on 80 | |
| <cellofellow> etc | |
| <cellofellow> what's wrong with this snippet of apache2.conf code? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36498/ | |
| <cellofellow> you guys should get /var/www2 from the outside, but you get /var/www | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: apache config is like its own language, i just follow online docs and then don't touch it | |
| <cellofellow> I did follow docs. :/ | |
| * cellofellow trys #apache | |
| *** gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| *** maxamillion is now known as max_final_exams | |
| <eddie> what the hack | |
| <eddie> I logged into xubuntu and i am in ubuntu | |
| <eddie> o.0 | |
| <cellofellow> can someone go to http://cellofellow.homelinux.net | |
| <cellofellow> eddie: you have to select session type at the GDM Greeter screen. | |
| <cellofellow> GNOME, XFCE, etc. | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: nice astronomy articles | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: those are pirated. :P | |
| <unikon> cellofellow index page is blank | |
| <cellofellow> but I don't want those on the internet. Those are in /var/www/astronomy and i want my public files to show /var/www2 | |
| <cellofellow> unikon: any links or just blank? | |
| <unikon> totally blank | |
| <cellofellow> YES! | |
| <unikon> it is blank | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: I will put the NASA stuff in the public stuff if you like. | |
| <unikon> nothing | |
| <unikon> nada | |
| <unikon> zip | |
| <cellofellow> that meens I can put what I want. Thanks unikon | |
| <unikon> yw | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: dump that apache and use lighty ;) | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: it's 300% faster and uses 10% of the memory | |
| <cellofellow> I would, but a lot of debian-packaged web apps require apache for some weird reason, and I'd rather use packaged apps instead of install myself at this point. | |
| * cellofellow is a dunce with web stuff, for now. | |
| <TheSheep> that's one thing I can't understand -- why package web apps? | |
| <cellofellow> I know I should use lightppd, seeing as this server is a Pentium 160Mhz with 32MB of RAM. | |
| <cellofellow> but, I'm not going to do any heavy serving with this machine. | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: what do you want to put on it? | |
| <cellofellow> Just some files, not really an apps but I wanted to try kwiki internally, and it depended on apache2. | |
| <cellofellow> maybe drupal, or something like it that's lightweight. | |
| <TheSheep> my experience with packaged web apps is that they are usually in really ancient versions, and hacked badly to force the files into "correct" (by the definition of given distro) location | |
| <cellofellow> oh, darnit. now I can't get to my internal stuff from here. | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: If they'll work in lighthppd then file a bug | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: you're probably right. I'm using sarge so they probably are really old then. | |
| <somerville32> It is possible to setup the packages to use either or | |
| <cellofellow> I know the httpd virtual package, but they usually are still not happy with using that. | |
| <TheSheep> I usually install a separate instance of web apps per service I use -- for example, right now I have like 6 different moinmoins on the server, every one in different version :) | |
| <TheSheep> that's because they use custom themes and plugins, and the developers of moinmoin changed some of the api between versions recently, and I didn't get to correct the code yet | |
| <cellofellow> what's moinmoin written in? PHP? | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: python | |
| <cellofellow> YES! Now I have two virtual hosts on here. | |
| <cellofellow> server1.local, and cellofellow.homelinux.net | |
| <cellofellow> I wonder if it's possible to get pyNeighborhood to work with sshfs too. | |
| <cellofellow> or a program based on pyNeighborhood for sshfs, which is fuse thing. | |
| <somerville32> I've never seen pyNeighborhood work yet | |
| <cellofellow> neither have I. I like its concept, and use linneighborhood all the time, but pyNeighborhood doesn't work for me. | |
| <cellofellow> somerville32: weren't you going to include it in Feisty? | |
| <TheSheep> what about the smbfs in fuse? | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: It'll be available in Feisty but I doubt available by default. | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: *installed by default | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: It just isn't mature enough | |
| *** max_final_exams is now known as maxamillion | |
| <mkaster> I need help with my laptop guys | |
| <maxamillion> !ask | |
| <Ubotwo> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | |
| <mkaster> anyways, sorry. I have an IBM Thinkpad 600E and I'm trying to setup the soundcard and either an Airport pcmcia card or my sandisk connectplus wifi card which according to my research | |
| <mkaster> I would need to make the pcmcia drivers compatible with multifunction cards | |
| <TheSheep> mkaster: do you know the think wiki? | |
| <mkaster> no... | |
| <TheSheep> it has resources about thinkpads and linux | |
| <TheSheep> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki | |
| <mkaster> xubuntu is compatible with wifi right? | |
| <TheSheep> mkaster: depends on the make and model | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: yes, i run xubuntu with wifi on my iBookG4 | |
| <mkaster> of what? | |
| <TheSheep> mkaster: of the wifi card | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: the wireless card | |
| <maxamillion> :P | |
| <mkaster> well the wireless card is a sandisk connect plus, my airport card requires an antennea which I dont have | |
| <mkaster> what I'm really worried about is the wifi, cuz I need this for travel and wifi | |
| <TheSheep> !wifi | |
| <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | |
| <mkaster> that didnt help the first 3 times I got that advice | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: do you know the wireless chipset? | |
| <mkaster> hold on I had the name somewhere | |
| <maxamillion> k | |
| <TheSheep> wifi and soundcards and printers -- those are the most common problems I'm helpless with | |
| <maxamillion> as am i .. but wifi i have had some success with | |
| <mkaster> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-pcmcia/2005-July/002255.html | |
| <mkaster> can you help me with the info you see on this page? | |
| <mkaster> I am trying to get the wifi portion of the card to work | |
| <mkaster> which is a prism | |
| <mkaster> chipset | |
| <maxamillion> ah ... awesome | |
| <mkaster> and it says it is only supported by hostap right now | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: well, yeah ... i think so | |
| <mkaster> tell me what to do please | |
| <maxamillion> hiya vidd :P | |
| <vidd> hello | |
| <vidd> uptime[6d 22h 54m 38s] | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: just a moment ... lemme read over that page | |
| <maxamillion> vidd: rock on | |
| <vidd> that is all since the last power outage | |
| * vidd needs to find a good lin-modem | |
| <vidd> pcmcia | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: open a terminal and type "sudo aptitude install linux-wlan-ng" (it will ask for your password) | |
| <vidd> any recommendations? | |
| <maxamillion> vidd: errrm .... dial up? | |
| <vidd> yeah | |
| <maxamillion> vidd: just a moment | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: did that finish installing? | |
| <mkaster> it said it needed "pcmciautils instead of pcmcia-cs" | |
| <maxamillion> ok | |
| <maxamillion> i'm not familiar with that ... :/ | |
| <maxamillion> just a moment | |
| <maxamillion> mkaster: ok, "sudo aptitude install pcmciautils linux-wlan-ng" |
