<zarul> arghhh
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<surface> hi zarul nbliang
<surface> how is ur day?
<nbliang> bz
<nbliang> :p
<surface> working today? nbliang
<surface> or still studying?
<nbliang> working
<nbliang> u?
<zarul> tension
<zarul> tension
<zarul> where is sumardi
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<surface> sumardi MIA
<zarul> MIA?
<surface> holiday
<surface> working at shah alam, and today is shah alam holiday
<nbliang> when will he be back?
<surface> missing in action
<nbliang> wow, so nice holiday
<surface> zarul, we can still do something without him, just leave the web apart first
<surface> when he comes back, then continue to build something up
<surface> nbliang, is many ppl uses linux at kuching?
<nbliang> ya, that would be nice
<nbliang> eerr...
<nbliang> so far ok la
<surface> actually a lots of ppl uses linux at work only
<nbliang> here most of us use linux at home only
<nbliang> :p
<surface> as i observed google analytics for LBE
<surface> nbliang, great!
<surface> most of the visitors for LBE is windows platform
<nbliang> ic
<nbliang> what's LBE?
<surface> ops.. linux by examples
<nbliang> ic
<surface> its glad to hear ppl uses linux at home
<surface> like me, all most all my fren common platform uses win
<nbliang> we hope that linux will be use in offices as well in kuching
<surface> some academician do use linux
<surface> nbliang, that should be no problem
<nbliang> ya, me too until we have the open source group then i met some of my fren using linux
<surface> linux workstation is cool
<surface> ya, as u see, this channel is so empty
<surface> nbliang, compare to ubuntu-cn, ubuntu-tw ... they are really active and they are really pro
<nbliang> yup
<surface> i get a good support on chinese at ubuntu-cn
<nbliang> i just inform our group members here that we have this channel, but haven't see them in here yet
<surface> they teach me about what to do to get a good view of chinese, chinese input etc
<nbliang> so zarul, are we going to discuss something on ubuntu-my soon? activities, etc?
<nbliang> surface: ic, but i can't read and write chinese :p
<surface> build up something like ubuntu-planet will be cool
<surface> its like digg, where ppl can post up articles related to ubuntu.
<surface> brb
<nbliang> that'll be nice
<surface> encourage ppl to write up, share the experiences, if enough article, we can turn it to newsletter and distribute
<nbliang> but it's all depend on the BOS :p now where is zarul? bz ke?
<surface> i am not really like the BOS idea... i hope here will be like 0 level which everyone have the same fun of it. of course someone must in charge or manage of it
<nbliang> ya, but we need someone to have a little "dictatorship", if no, everyone want to be different then die lo, we cannot make one solid decision.
<nbliang> i mean 0 level is good, but when in decision making, we need to have only 1 decision (maybe more)
<nbliang> if we let everybody to decide, then we all want to have our own design, decision, way of doing things, etc.
<nbliang> :p but i like 0 level too, everybody will be the same
<surface> agree, certain people have to be in charge of managing... then all of us share the same fun :)
<nbliang> hehee... ya
<nbliang> btw, where is zarul?
<nbliang> his nick is on, but seem to be quiet
<nbliang> ok, going off for lunch now
<surface> kay
<surface> gtg yoo
<zarul> back
<zarul> nbliang, how was the meeting in Kuching that day?
<nbliang> hi zarul
<nbliang> ok la, more people coming to the meetup, did introduce ubuntu-my to them
<nbliang> but the meetup was informal as we don;t have better space for the meetup
<zarul> oh
<zarul> no,
<zarul> I mean, don't forget to ask them to register in typepad
<zarul> would be easier to track them
<nbliang> typepad?
<zarul> typepad la pulak
<zarul> lol
<zarul> launcpad
<zarul> *launchpad
<nbliang> heheeee.... i did
<nbliang> some of us are in there
<nbliang> will need to explain more in detail to them again in the next meetup and with some demo of what we do with translations
<zarul> yeah
<zarul> at the moment I just wish more people to reply on the mailing list
<nbliang> agree.
<zarul> I even asked people who asked me questions through email to ask it in the mailing list
<nbliang> ya, and what aizat mentioned is rite, we should put the reply-to point back to the mailing list
<nbliang> so anyone replying to our message will auto reply to the mailing list
<zarul> errmm, I already set the option in the administrator panel
<zarul> shouldn't have much problem I guess
<nbliang> i see
<nbliang> rarely see sumardi in here, surface say he is on vac?
<zarul> should be la I guess, normally he always here, but never see him around since last week
<nbliang> yalor
<nbliang> so, when r we going to plan for our activities? maybe marketing / promoting strategies, etc...
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<nbliang> so how?
<zarul> I do have some plans for those things mentioned above, but first of all, I need more active people to be around,
<zarul> and the mailing list / site to be up
<zarul> as many people can't be on IRC
<zarul> so we need to find a way to make people being able to communicate with each other
<nbliang> yup
<nbliang> i think mailing list will be the best choice
<zarul> yeah
<nbliang> me myself only start using IRC last week, and this is my first chatroom that i join
<nbliang> :p
<zarul> lol
<zarul> have to go now
<nbliang> ok
<zarul> got an appointment
<nbliang> np
<SiOnG_> hi everyone.. too many years din touch on IRC... finally able to join in...
<SiOnG_> ding dong..
<geek00L> haha
<SiOnG_> hello
<SiOnG_> seems no ppl here..
<geek00L> yup
<SiOnG_> i guess it hard to start our ubuntu my community.. do u know how many member we have?
<geek00L> i don't know
<geek00L> but even myoss hardly to maintain
<geek00L> and u want to start nother one?
<SiOnG_> haha.. this 1 also hard to start, how to start another 1.. =="
<geek00L> yup
<SiOnG_> wht is ur expert?
<SiOnG_> programmer or technical ppl?
<geek00L> me
<geek00L> networking?
<geek00L> security?
<SiOnG_> ya u.. == i think no 3rd ppl will reply here..
<SiOnG_> im technical ppl... 1 leg kick except programming..
<geek00L> that's good
<geek00L> sysadmin
<SiOnG_> cool..
<SiOnG_> 1 leg kick also?
<geek00L> me
<geek00L> security part ys
<SiOnG_> cool... actually i would like to focus on security part 1..
<geek00L> then ?
<SiOnG_> do u CISSP certified?
<SiOnG_> no le.. here so bad.. not security based company.. just know half half only... no time to dig in details..
<geek00L> me
<geek00L> nope
<geek00L> i don't have any certification
<geek00L> but i have blog
<geek00L> :P
<geek00L> which getting me the job
<SiOnG_> wa..
<SiOnG_> can share ur blog ar?
<SiOnG_> me too.. i dun hv any certification too... ==
<geek00L> http://geek00L.blogspot.com
<SiOnG_> ppl go to ur blog and offer u a job?
<geek00L> i got this kind of offers :)
<geek00L> and i have done presentation on mycert-sig and being one of hackinthebox capture the flag organizer
<SiOnG_> cool man..
<geek00L> it's hard
<SiOnG_> r u freelancer?
<geek00L> nope
<nbliang> hi guys
<SiOnG_> oo.. another join in..
<SiOnG_> welcome
<nbliang> yeah
<nbliang> just now oredi in but then log out again
<geek00L> :)
<nbliang> and now back in again
<nbliang> didn't see both of u just now?
<nbliang> i mean morning time
<geek00L> haha
<geek00L> sure
<geek00L> :P
<SiOnG_> haha... i just able to log in IRC
<nbliang> ic
<SiOnG_> long long time din touch IRC d
<nbliang> me too
<SiOnG_> becoz of ubuntu-my now touch again.. hahaha
<nbliang> u guys on IRC all the time / everyday?
<SiOnG_> ==
<SiOnG_> no...
<SiOnG_> 10 yrs ago yes..
<SiOnG_> hahaha
<nbliang> hehee...
<nbliang> so u guys using Ubuntu as well?
<SiOnG_> erm.. i got use few distro.. ubuntu is 1 of them..
<nbliang> ic
<nbliang> not bad
<nbliang> :p
<nbliang> r u guys from KL? do u guys in the mailing list as well?
<SiOnG_> hehe.. sure.. if not how to know this channel..
<SiOnG_> i work at puchong...
<nbliang> ic
<SiOnG_> u guys?
<nbliang> i am from kuching, swk. :p
<nbliang> how about u geek00L?
<SiOnG_> my hometown at ipoh.. ==
<SiOnG_> geek00L is a geng chao ppl... he did some presentation at public 1..
<nbliang> wow, impressive !!
<SiOnG_> opps.. any one not chinese?
<nbliang> i am not 100% chinese
<nbliang> :p
<SiOnG_> geng chao == powerful..
<SiOnG_> ==
<nbliang> ic
<SiOnG_> haha.. still can understand rite..
<nbliang> where is that geng chao?
<nbliang> just now he got chat
<nbliang> now quite liao
<SiOnG_> dunno wo.. maybe too bz gua..
<SiOnG_> maybe ppl bz with working leh..
<SiOnG_> u working today?
<nbliang> yup, in office
<nbliang> u not working?
<SiOnG_> yaya.. working le.. now at melaka..
<SiOnG_> wht is ur expert?
<SiOnG_> expertise
<nbliang> i am just a linux / open source user
<nbliang> :p
<nbliang> not expert like u guys
<SiOnG_> cheh..
<SiOnG_> not working on IT ar
<nbliang> hehee... ya, i am a programmer
<nbliang> how bout u?
<SiOnG_> technical..
<SiOnG_> wht language u familiar?
<nbliang> php, mysql, asp
<nbliang> a bit of javascript
<SiOnG_> cool..
<nbliang> how long have u been using ubuntu?
<SiOnG_> erm... less than 1 yr.. u?
<SiOnG_> b4 this, im using debian
<nbliang> i start using ubuntu since 4.04
<nbliang> but i am a debian user too, will be switching back to debian once Etch is out
<nbliang> i consider myself as newbie, coz just now how to use and not on technical issues
<nbliang> :p
<SiOnG_> ooo... why u wan to switch back ar?
<SiOnG_> now ubuntu got rich ppl support ==
<nbliang> i like debian coz i can customize the installation, etc.
<nbliang> usually i just install what i needed
<SiOnG_> oh ya.. u r rite..
<nbliang> :)
<SiOnG_> but update will be slow lor.
<SiOnG_> hehe.. actually i just use linux at my server, normally still using XP.. ==
<nbliang> ic
<nbliang> me too, at work still using XP but at home i usually in linux
<SiOnG_> oo cool.. normally wht kind of application u write?
<nbliang> i am currently a web programmer, writing online system
<SiOnG_> ic.. transaction based system?
<nbliang> yes, and reporting as well
<geek00L> back
<nbliang> where have u been?
<nbliang> :p
<geek00L> into something else
<geek00L> :p
<SiOnG_> haha.. so lan c..
<SiOnG_> ==
<SiOnG_> hey geek tell us ur background.. just now we are sharing our backgroud..
<smithveg> hihi
<smithveg> someone know how to open the permission for a folder.
<nbliang> hi smithveg, u manage to get into the irc
<SiOnG_> dunno wo..
<smithveg> har?
<smithveg> nbliang, what are you talking?
<nbliang> wasn't that u have password problem ?
<SiOnG_> at the mail u say got problem to login IRC rite..
<smithveg> yaya, i solve it already
<smithveg> i ask the IRC administrator reset the password for me
<nbliang> hahaa... so how? ask in #freenode?
<smithveg> nono
<smithveg> ask #help
<nbliang> ic
<nbliang> hi geek, intro urself la
<smithveg> ok, now i have some differulties to delete a folder
<SiOnG_> ooo... got password meh.. i just login like tat wo.. =="
<nbliang> smithveg too
<nbliang> folder in linux box?
<SiOnG_> yaya.. share share la..
<smithveg> some IRC channel need a registered nickname ma... so... you need it... and ubuntu-my seems do not need it
<SiOnG_> ooic..
<smithveg> nono.... i never set any permission... but i see a 'LOG' logo in a folder, basically, all the folder which contain the song...
<smithveg> anyone know how to make it into writable permission?
<nbliang> chmod ?
<SiOnG_> erm, can explain ur problem more details?
<nbliang> but u didn't set permission ho?
<SiOnG_> sudo chmod or sudo chown
<nbliang> where is geek))L again?
<nbliang> :p
<SiOnG_> haha.. he too bz..
<nbliang> hehee... yalor
<nbliang> eh, smithveg, give some intro about urself la
<SiOnG_> smithveg silent liao?
<nbliang> yaloh
<smithve1> hhihi
<smithve1> i'm bakc
<smithve1> i'm back
<smithve1> how's
<SiOnG_> aiyo..
<smithve1> how's it.... someone know
<SiOnG_> explain in details la..
<smithve1> because my line dc just now.... suck streamyx
<smithve1> okok,,,
<SiOnG_> u talk half half hard to understand la..
<smithve1> i didn't set any permission on a mp3 folder...
<SiOnG_> haha.. streamyx also suck...
<SiOnG_> sori is always..
<smithve1> but it seems have a 'Log' logo there.... so i cannot do any deletion in that folder.. Do you know how can i open the permission for it?
<nbliang> is it? here is ok ler
<SiOnG_> erm, maybe u try sudo chmod 777 <folder name> or sudo chown <to ur user>
<SiOnG_> u got how many user at ur box?
<smithve1> one
<smithve1> just the default user
<SiOnG_> example ur user is test, sudo chown -R test <folder name>
<smithve1> wait wait... that folder in another Harddisk... so how can i go into that drive first
<smithve1> wait wait... that folder in another Harddisk... so how can i go into that drive first
<SiOnG_> wht filesystem?
<SiOnG_> NTFS?
<smithve1> i think so ^^
<SiOnG_> by default ubuntu should able to mount it..
<smithve1> hu~
<smithve1> now i open teminal,
<smithve1> i don't know how to walk into that drive le..
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<SiOnG_> erm.. wht u hv when u type in mount
<smithveg> wait....i do not relly understand leh... how to type in mount
<SiOnG_> at ur terminal..
<smithveg> type what ar?... i really new to uninx..
<SiOnG_> mount
<SiOnG_> then hit enter
<smithveg> oh....get it...wait
<SiOnG_> print out the screen u get
<smithveg> after i try 'sudo chown -R smithveg <mp3'
<smithveg> it run lots of things.. then end up with all the file and folder ' Operation not permitted'
<smithveg> is i type like this "sudo chown -R smithveg mp3"
<SiOnG_> do u know the folder path for ur MP3?
<smithveg> yaya
<SiOnG_> wht is the path?
<smithveg> ivern itry this 'sudo chown -R smithveg /media/STORAGE/mp3'
<SiOnG_> erm.. media..
<SiOnG_> mp3 is CDROM rite?
<smithveg> ya, now i sure this is correct path, /media/STORAGE/mp3
<SiOnG_> =="
<smithveg> is in another harddisk... then i cd /media/STORAGE/mp3 ... i can see all the file inside
<geek00L> back
<geek00L> :)
<smithveg> i think this is the correct path...
<geek00L> errr.
<SiOnG_> then whts the problem since u can access leh?
<geek00L> my background - Senior security engineer :P
<SiOnG_> wawa.. my idol..
<smithveg> i can access the file, but cannot delete any folder or file in this mp3 directory
<nbliang> wow, security in IT field?
<SiOnG_> next time can ask security question liao..
<nbliang> ya ya
<smithveg> wait la.a.. helps me sin...
<nbliang> ok liao la, i need to go offline, going home and maybe will online again if got time
<nbliang> bye guys
<SiOnG_> geek got any idea ar?
<SiOnG_> 88
<smithveg> huh?
<geek00L> hahaah
<geek00L> okay
<geek00L> smithveg, how you delete
<SiOnG_> erm... isit NTFS cant do edit?
<geek00L> what OS you are using
<smithveg> delete?
<SiOnG_> geek mean how u del folder
<smithveg> no i can't even delete this folder
<nbliang> Ubuntu only support READ for NTFS
<geek00L> use ntfs-3g driver
<geek00L> which allows you to delete
<smithveg> you means ...
<smithveg> wait...
<smithveg> wait...
<geek00L> you are allowed to read/write by using that
<geek00L> smithveg, first, what's the OS you are using
<smithveg> that drive have 8 folder... but ONLY one folder (mp3) that has been log...
<geek00L> and what file system you are accessing
<smithveg> all in the same drive... but why only this folder been log?
<SiOnG_> geek he is newbie..
<SiOnG_> u need to explain more details
<nbliang> ok guys, going off now
<nbliang> bye
<SiOnG_> ==
<SiOnG_> bye bnliang
<smithveg> i'm using windows xp last time... i think this is ntfs
<smithveg> bye
<smithveg> so how woooo
<SiOnG_> 1st u have to know wht filesystem lor..
<SiOnG_> if NTFS u need to install ntfs-3g driver to edit ur folder
<geek00L> ntfs
<geek00L> what are you using now, till now you haven't told me what OS you are using
<smithveg> but seems so weird, why ONLY this folder been log...
<smithveg> i'm using ubuntu dapper la..
<geek00L> smithveg, and which folder can't be deleted
<smithveg> only that 'mp3' folder...
<geek00L> full path please
<smithveg> but the other folder which is same drive with it... i can do anything / any deletiong i want...
<geek00L> okok, can you listen what i say
<geek00L> i'm trying to fix your problem
<smithveg> the full path is /media/STORAGE/mp3
<geek00L> give me the result of ls -la /media/STORAGE/mp3
<smithveg> in terminal, when i type, cd /media/STORAGE/mp3. It can go into that folder.
<geek00L> just follow what i say man
<smithveg> smithveg@smithveg-desktop:/media/STORAGE/mp3$ ls -la /media/STORAGE/mp3
<smithveg> total 52784
<smithveg> dr-xr-x--- 5 root plugdev 16384 2004-09-19 10:06 .
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 16 root plugdev 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 ..
<smithveg> -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 8650959 2006-01-24 23:05 07 - Self.mp3
<smithveg> -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 235 2004-09-19 10:06 Desktop.ini
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2006-12-11 03:21 EnglishSong
<smithveg> -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 44998289 2006-02-25 03:44 Faith Hill & Tim Mcgraw - Like we never loved at all.mpg
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2006-12-11 03:21 HitzMtv
<smithveg> dr-xr-x--- 2 root plugdev 278528 2004-09-19 10:06 Mix
<smithveg> -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 8704 2006-09-03 01:35 Thumbs.db
<geek00L> and your mount result
<geek00L> type mount
<geek00L> and send me the result
<smithveg> smithveg@smithveg-desktop:/media/STORAGE/mp3$ mount
<smithveg> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
<smithveg> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
<smithveg> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
<smithveg> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
<smithveg> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
<smithveg> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
<smithveg> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
<smithveg> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
<smithveg> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
<smithveg> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
<smithveg> /dev/hda5 on /media/STORAGE type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
<smithveg> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
<smithveg> /dev/hdb5 on /media/hdb5 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
<geek00L> type who
<geek00L> send me result
<geek00L> whoami
<geek00L> not who
<smithveg> smithveg
<geek00L> smithveg, you can delete any directory except mp3 in /media/STORAGE right
<smithveg> yaya
<smithveg> that's why lo
<geek00L> smithveg, what command you use to delete them
<geek00L> ls -la /media/STORAGE
<geek00L> send me result
<geek00L> no result?
<smithveg> total 260
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 16 root plugdev 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 .
<smithveg> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2006-12-10 10:17 ..
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2006-11-26 04:18 Articles
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2006-11-20 11:13 Business
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2003-09-13 06:43 Dance
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 5 root plugdev 16384 2006-11-26 09:56 Family
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2005-03-19 14:28 Guitar
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 6 root plugdev 32768 2006-12-11 03:03 Jimmy
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2005-03-25 01:23 Kiki
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 16384 2006-11-28 01:46 Linux-Installer
<smithveg> dr-xr-x--- 5 root plugdev 16384 2004-09-19 10:06 Mp3
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 4 root plugdev 16384 2006-12-03 03:01 Software
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 5 root plugdev 16384 2006-12-03 07:54 Subject
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 8 root plugdev 16384 2006-12-11 03:21 .Trash-jimmy
<geek00L> stop it
<geek00L> enough
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 15 root plugdev 16384 2006-10-26 18:24 WarcraftIII
<smithveg> drwxrwx--- 9 root plugdev 16384 2006-12-08 05:36 www
<geek00L> stop it
<geek00L> enough
<smithveg> HEHE..... slow a bit... by the way , can you tell me what is the meaning of -la, i seems cannot find this command in google...okok
<geek00L> it is fat
<geek00L> look at permission
<geek00L> dr-xr-x--- 5 root plugdev 16384 2004-09-19 10:06 Mp3
<geek00L> there's no w
<smithveg> ya
<geek00L> means no writtable
<smithveg> i noticed the permission
<geek00L> so how you delete
<smithveg> so, how can i change the permission ar?
<geek00L> sudo chmod 770 mp3
<geek00L> then type in password
<geek00L> and you should be able to delete
<smithveg> YAYA, all got the same permission now
<geek00L> can delete?
<smithveg> yeaheayh
<geek00L> :)
<smithveg> hehe...thanks...
<smithveg> -la command is use to check the permission?
<SiOnG_> good problem solver..
<geek00L> 4+2+1 = 7
<geek00L> 4 = read
<geek00L> 2 = write
<geek00L> 1 = execute
<smithveg> but why must 3 digit?
<geek00L> dr-xr-x--- = directory with user permission | group permission | others(global) permission
<geek00L> smithveg, this is how unix security permission works
<geek00L> r-x = 4+1
<geek00L> rwx=4+2+1=7
<geek00L> that's why 770
<smithveg> stop
<smithveg> stop i wll creazy
<geek00L> why
<geek00L> LOL
<geek00L> it's simple
<smithveg> seems so complicated..
<SiOnG_> haha..
<geek00L> d|r-x|r-x|--- == directory|user permission|group permission|global permission
<smithveg> means if write in full is drwxrwxrwx?
<geek00L> yup, that means that directory has read,write and execute for either user, group and global
<smithveg> is the 'd' is compulsory to have?.. then rwx 3 times... so total should have 10 char
<geek00L> sometimes u see l
<geek00L> which is symlink
<geek00L> it depends on file type
<SiOnG_> d is directory..
<geek00L> filetype|user|group|global
<geek00L> directory is file
<geek00L> remember this
<geek00L> in *nixes, everything is file
<smithveg> okok
<smithveg> let me test,
<SiOnG_> haha..
<smithveg> if drex-wx-r-- is 734
<smithveg> should be correct kua?
<geek00L> yup
<smithveg> whahaa.... i got this today..hehe
<smithveg> but for this, why you say this is unix security reason than windos?
<geek00L> smithveg, this is unix thing
<geek00L> windows ntfs is following this
<geek00L> and we have this like long long time ago
<smithveg> i don't know what is the purpose to having this leh....hehe.. you all should know i''m newbie in linux/unix/ubuntu
<smithveg> ubuntu is introduce from my friends in singapore... Hmm.. once i receive the ubuntu cd, i totally switch to it, and throw away windows... hehe..
<geek00L> newbie is fine
<geek00L> as long as one can learn
<smithveg> yea yeas
<SiOnG_> alot of documentation out there, just google or yahoo it..
<SiOnG_> last time i also learn like tat..
<geek00L> even i myself have to learn everyday :S
<SiOnG_> as a techinie everyday hv to learn.. ==" so tired..
<geek00L> true
<smithveg> hoh... will be very buy
<smithveg> busy
<SiOnG_> geek ur company is doing security services or just to audit ur own system?
<smithveg> haihz.. i'm still a college student. not of thing to do, still need to learn linux... still have a final eyar project
<SiOnG_> yea.. when disaster happend, u cannot sleep..
<smithveg> ha.a.
<geek00L> SiOnG_, web hosting company
<geek00L> and maintaining own system and network sec
<SiOnG_> icic..
<nbliang> hi guys, still here?
<SiOnG_> haha.. ur company must be big enough.. got own team to do security.
<SiOnG_> yea..
<SiOnG_> welcome back..
<nbliang> yup
<nbliang> just back home
<SiOnG_> so fast ==
<nbliang> office not far from home
<nbliang> around 10-20 minutes drive
<SiOnG_> oic..
<nbliang> so, how's smithveg issue? settled?
<SiOnG_> in malaysia i guess not much hosting company have own security team..
<SiOnG_> ya.. we got expert here.. sure can solve le..
<nbliang> what's the problem? coz default Ubuntu only support READ on NTFS?
<geek00L> SiOnG_, me, working in Exabytes
<geek00L> SiOnG_, and the team - i'm the team
<nbliang> exabytes? that's hosting company rite?
<geek00L> yup
<SiOnG_> just a folder dun hv permission..
<nbliang> very famous also
<SiOnG_> haha.. popular hosting company..
<geek00L> number 1 in .my
<SiOnG_> top in malaysia
<geek00L> :P
<SiOnG_> ya..
<SiOnG_> i meet ur boss b4..
<SiOnG_> young man.. isit u?
<SiOnG_> haha
<nbliang> heheee..
<nbliang> ok la, going to cok dinner now, chat again later
<geek00L> yup
<SiOnG_> 88
<geek00L> later
<SiOnG_> geek ur yup is u r that boss ar?
<SiOnG_> i heard tat exabytes is 1 man show company wo..
<geek00L> i'm not the bos
<geek00L> exabytes is not one man show company
<geek00L> but security team is one man show
<SiOnG_> haha..
<geek00L> technical department no one man show
<SiOnG_> oic..
<SiOnG_> IT department got how many ppl?
<geek00L> tech department, someway like 20
<geek00L> kaka
<SiOnG_> wa.. so many ppl
<geek00L> yup
<SiOnG_> good man.. u got 1 boss onli rite?
<SiOnG_> which is very young 1..
<geek00L> 1 boss
<geek00L> yes
<geek00L> very young
<SiOnG_> icic..
<geek00L> :)
<SiOnG_> how long u been working there?
<geek00L> 1 year + a bit
<geek00L> kaka
<SiOnG_> haha..
<SiOnG_> hey can share with me wht kind of security tools u use to audit ur server?
<geek00L> same
<geek00L> open source
<geek00L> nessus, nmap and all
<SiOnG_> ic..
<surface> ok, the amount of ppl here getting better
<mypapit> surface: thanks to zatto and geek001
*** hantoo is now known as hantu
<surface> mypapit, haha
<hantu> hi surface, mypapit
<mypapit> hi hantu
<surface> besides human, we are glad to have hantu here too
<surface> hantu, the treik is cpu eater
<hantu> treil you mean
<surface> yaya
<surface> see u guys
<surface> gonna hit the sack
<shazwan> salam

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