<snype> how do i get xfce to show programs in the task list that are on other virtual desktops or w/e they're called

<Tuxguy> Dang, I burned the xubuntu-ppc image, popped it in the mac, and it says disk unreadable, even though the disc is perfectly fine and mountable

<snype> damn that suckx

<cellofellow> snype: right click the Task List in an empty area and then click properties.

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<boris55> quiet tonight

<somerville32> Indeed

<Jester41> yep

<Jester41> oo same time

<Jester41> snype: right click the tast list go to properities then check show task from all desktops

<wi1dfire> Sweet.. having a billards party at the house ;)

<Jester41> o fun....

<JKnife> !seen kalikiana

<ubotu> I last saw kalikiana (n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-23-72.netcologne.de) 1d 15h 40m 36s ago, quiting: ""And Jesus said unto John: 'Come forth, I will give you eternal life!'. Unfortunately, John came fifth... he won a toaster.""

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<wi1dfire> !seen wildfire

<ubotu> wildfire is on IRC right now!

<Jester41> !seen ubotu

<ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!

<wi1dfire> !seen elvis

<ubotu> Elvis is on IRC right now!

<wi1dfire> wow

<wi1dfire> i knew he was alive

<somerville32> !fishing

<ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)

<boris55> !dvd

<ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages

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<JasonMcG> hey guyz

<JasonMcG> i need help with my xorg thing

<JasonMcG> i did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

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<JasonMcG> and now it wont boot

<JasonMcG> i get an error

<JKnife> !pastebin

<ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)

<JKnife> put the error there

<JKnife> or dcc me /var/log/Xorg.0.log

<JasonMcG> i cant really...i can only use the recovery shell

<barktpolar> Question, How do I bring up the Xfce4-panel at bootup with a Live CD

<JKnife> JasonMcG: ok.. are you on that pc now?

<JKnife> barktpolar: alt+f2 'xfce4-panel'

<JasonMcG> JKnife: yes...in recovery shell

<JKnife> ok type '/dcc send JKnife /var/log/Xorg.0.log'

<JKnife> in your irc client

<barktpolar> Is that when when teh menu shows up where it shows the xubuntu logo?

<JasonMcG> JKnife: no no i mean, im on my windows pc right now, but i have my laptop up with the recovery shell next ti me

<JKnife> JasonMcG: is it hook up to the internet?

<JasonMcG> yes

<JKnife> ok.. install irssi

<JKnife> sudo apt-get install irssi

<JasonMcG> kk

<JasonMcG> connecting

<JasonMcG> JKnife: ive had xubuntu up before, but i could only use the default screen resoulution which was too small. the rest screwed up. When i tried to re do the xorg config it messed up.

<JKnife> ok.. i will help you get back to a working Xorg config and we can go from there

<JasonMcG> k, its still connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com

<JKnife> =/ i wonder if it is down again =/

<JasonMcG> nope just fetched it :D

<JKnife> heeh ok

<JasonMcG> ok now what?

<JKnife> run irssi as the NORMAL USER ie NOT ROOT

<JKnife> irssi = a cli based irc client

<JasonMcG> :/ root is all i can use in recovery shell

<JKnife> =/ ok.. type this

<JKnife> 'su <your normal user name>'

<JasonMcG> kk worked

<Jester45> anyone here use qemu?

<JKnife> ok.. run irssi

* JKnife points Jester45 to the door...

<PuMpErNiCkEl> s/the door/google/

<JKnife> PuMpErNiCkEl: XD

<Jester45> lol

<JKnife> JasonMcG: it running?

<JKnife> if so type '/server irc.freenode.net'

<Jester45> i was wondering whats the diffence of running a iso as a hdd or cd

<jasonmcg2> kk

<JKnife> alrighty

<JKnife> you need to identify with nickserv

<JKnife> /msg nickserv help

<JKnife> or else you can not send my the log file

<Jester45> you need help with nickserv JKnife

<BonBonTheJon> anyone use a lot of kde apps in xubuntu

<JKnife> -_- you ask that EVERYTIME i say nickserv

<Jester45> BonBonTheJon: i do

<JKnife> BonBonTheJon: no.. i do not worship the devil

<Jester45> JKnife: do you need help with nickserv

<JKnife> no...

<Jester45> BonBonTheJon: i have kde apps why

<BonBonTheJon> Jester45: I am using kubuntu now, but I was thinking about trying out xubuntu

<JKnife> jasonmcg2: let me know when you have regged with nickserv..

<BonBonTheJon> Jester45: but I really like my kde apps

<Jester45> BonBonTheJon: ok..

<JKnife> BonBonTheJon: just install xubuntu-desktop

<Jester45> BonBonTheJon: use them but try to use the better xfce ones

<jasonmcg2> k i think im registered

<jasonmcg2> its being gay with BCM43xx errors

<jasonmcg2> bcm43 aka the worst wireless module ever made

<jasonmcg2> :o

<jasonmcg2> kk

<Jester45> anyone think running 3 DSLs would be fun

<JKnife> it is not saying you are identified with nickserv =\

<Jester45> type /msg NickServ Register <password>

<Jester45> got that JKnife? :)

<jasonmcg2> how about now?

* JKnife adds Jester45 to his ignore list for worthless spam

<jasonmcg2> 0_o

<JKnife> jasonmcg2: try '/msg JKnife stupid nickserv'

* Jester45 dosnt care

<somerville32> !language | JasonMcG

<ubotu> JasonMcG: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<JKnife> somerville32: o.O?

<JasonMcG> ?

<JKnife> what did he say?

<somerville32> JasonMcG, Using the term "gay" derogatorily is not acceptable.

* JKnife sighs

<JKnife> =\

<JasonMcG> yeah ur gay

<JKnife> somerville32: when did you become a stiff?

<JasonMcG> jknife my thing is being really screwy

<Jester45> when he was born

<JKnife> =/

<JasonMcG> the bcm errors are messing it up

*** ChanServ sets mode: +o somerville32

<JKnife> is there any way you can get me the Xorg.0.log?

<JasonMcG> uh oh

<JKnife> JasonMcG: don't worry about him

<Jester45> he is really stiff now :)

<JKnife> just try and get me the log file

*** ChanServ sets mode: -o somerville32

<JasonMcG> -_-

<Jester45> owned

<Jester45> hehe'

<somerville32> JasonMcG, Please review the Community Code of Conduct.

<somerville32> !coc

<ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/

<Jester45> somerville32: why dont you stay in +o mode

<JasonMcG> ok somer im sorry i wont say the g thang again

<somerville32> Thank you.

<Jester45> somerville32: well its says "ubuntu" i smell a loop hole

<somerville32> Jester45: I got a magic script to do things automatically for me, haha

<somerville32> ;]

<JKnife> /remove

<jasonmcg2> screen

<JasonMcG> hey

<JasonMcG> how do i get out of the irc

<JasonMcG> ?

<JasonMcG> lik

<JKnife> /quit

<Jester45> somerville32: you have no power over xubuntu users

<JasonMcG> 'minimize' it in a sense

<somerville32> Jester45, What do you mean?

<JKnife> JasonMcG: in cli?

<JasonMcG> yeh

<JKnife> only way is screen...

<Jester45> 20:21:11) ubotu: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/

<JasonMcG> ugh cant do that

<Jester45> UBUNTU users

<somerville32> Jester45, It applies to Xubuntu users as well.

<Jester45> jasonmncg type /quit im a loser

<JasonMcG> hey good one jester

<JKnife> JasonMcG: got a flash drive or somethin you can put the log file on?

<JasonMcG> ...

<Jester45> hehe

<JasonMcG> can i DCC it without being identified

<Jester45> somerville32: i think not

<JKnife> JasonMcG: no =\

<JasonMcG> o i got an idea

<JasonMcG> ill identify the nick on this pc

<Jester45> somerville32: your being a meanie so loop holes apply

<JasonMcG> i mean reg

<JasonMcG> and identify on the laptop

<JKnife> then login on the other.. XD

<somerville32> I'm not being mean.

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<somerville32> You just aren't allowed to violate the coc

*** jasonmcg2 is now known as JasonMcG

* JKnife took nude photos of the CoC...

<JKnife> does that violate it?

<Jester45> well... if you wherent here it would be all good

<Jester45> no

<Jester45> CoC is over 18

<JKnife> no.. it is only like 2 years old XD

<Jester45> yes but each version = 3 years

<jason> ok

<Jester45> so like 6*3

<jason> wow

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<jasonmcg2> kk

<jasonmcg2> im identified now

<JKnife> ok

<JasonMcG> aight

<JKnife> /dcc send JKnife /var/log/Xorg.0.log

<JasonMcG> did it work?

<JKnife> =\ it is not getting

<JasonMcG> what do you mean?

<JKnife> 21:28 DCC no file offered by jasonmcg2

<JKnife> 21:27 DCC SEND from jasonmcg2 [192.168.1.105 port 54873]: Xorg.0.log [14kB]

<JKnife> =\

<PuMpErNiCkEl> It won't work if he's behind a firewall.

<JasonMcG> doesnt that mean it sent?

<JKnife> JasonMcG: it isn't sending

<JasonMcG> 14 kb?

<JasonMcG> hm

<JKnife> PuMpErNiCkEl: =\ i am behind a firewall...

<JasonMcG> i just tried again

<JKnife> still nothing =\

<PuMpErNiCkEl> JKnife: Not you, JasonMcG. DCC uses a retarded two-stage send method.

<PuMpErNiCkEl> ie, it sends a notification, and waits for the recipient to request the file.

<Jester45> PuMpErNiCkEl: i could try my computer has all ports open

<PuMpErNiCkEl> So if the sender is behind a NAT, he can't send.

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Jester45: _sender_

<JasonMcG> im trying to put it on my ftp

<Jester45> !pastebin

<ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)

<Jester45> haha im a genius

<JKnife> really how?

<Jester45> becauase

<JKnife> you suggested pastebin?

<JKnife> they how?

<JasonMcG> i cant use pastebin on cli

<JKnife> and i suggested it 30mins ago XD

<Jester45> why not

<JasonMcG> its a cmd

<JasonMcG> no browser

<JasonMcG> :/

<Jester45> cli can do web browsering

<JasonMcG> ergh

<JasonMcG> whats the command to upload

<JasonMcG> on ftp

* JKnife dont think Jester45 has tried to pastebin in cli

<JKnife> JasonMcG: type help

<JasonMcG> i did

<JasonMcG> i see send

<PuMpErNiCkEl> It's 'put'.

<PuMpErNiCkEl> For sftp, at least.

<JasonMcG> whats the syntax?

<JasonMcG> put <local file> <remote file>

<PuMpErNiCkEl> put /local/file/path /remote/file/path

* Jester45 has browsed in cli

<JasonMcG> kk

<JKnife> Jester45: wooo.. browsed != trying to use pastebin

<JasonMcG> like

<JasonMcG> highlighting and pasting

<JasonMcG> in cmd

<JasonMcG> != possible in cli

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about possible in cli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<JasonMcG> not that i know of

<JKnife> you need gpm

<JKnife> !gpm

<ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-22ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 500 kB

<Jester45> you can

<Jester45> JasonMcG: see

<JasonMcG> i wonder why its taking to long to put the file

<JasonMcG> >_<

<JKnife> woohoo 70 floors!!!

<Jester45> ?

<Commander-Crowe> eh?

<boris55> ?

<Jester45> ?

<Jester45> #xubuntu is mass confusion

<JKnife> XJump.. made it to 70 floors =\

<JKnife> 84!!!

* somerville32 claps.

<somerville32> :D

<JKnife> =\ i need a girl to take up my time instead of a stupid game...

* somerville32 has a support request.

<somerville32> :D

<somerville32> Transparency seems to be disabled in panels now

* JKnife ignores somerville32

<somerville32> They were working DURING the upgrade

* PuMpErNiCkEl smacks somerville32 with an !ask

<somerville32> But once it finished, it disappeared

<somerville32> !:D

<JKnife> one sec..

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<JKnife> edit .config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml

<JKnife> and set "<option name="Xfwm/UseCompositing" type="int" value="0"/>" to 1

<JKnife> the log out and back in

<JKnife> talk about ML spam "Very interesting article! :)"

<somerville32> haha! :P

<somerville32> Get gmail

<JKnife> i have gmail..

<somerville32> :D

* somerville32 huggles gmail.

<JKnife> i was talking about you reply for

<JKnife> article

<somerville32> I know

<JKnife> so.. you get opicity working again?

<somerville32> Haven't tried <g>

<JKnife> you mean i helped you and you are not gonna do it?

* JKnife makes note as to never help Cody again

<somerville32> lol

<somerville32> Ok ok

<somerville32> I'll try right now :P

<somerville32> I was just busy in a meeting

<somerville32> Will I have to restart X?

<somerville32> And I thought there was a checkbox in some gui tool

<JKnife> just log out and back in

<JKnife> that is it.. nothing more..

<quad3d> wow, roommate bought me a 80gb ipod for xmas

<JKnife> o.O

<quad3d> just came home and found that on my kb

<JKnife> can i move in with you?

<quad3d> lol

<quad3d> i'm a bit pissed because that's an expensive gift

<JKnife> well give it to me..

<JKnife> ^_^ i have gotten good at jumping 2 floors at once in XJump

<quad3d> heh. need to have a talk with him tonight

<JKnife> maybe he is gay and is in love with you?

<somerville32> Maybe he fancies you?

<somerville32> haha

<quad3d> lol

<JKnife> XD

<JKnife> this adds a new twist to XJump..

<JKnife> try jumping 2 floors at a time

<JKnife> instead of doing em 1 by 1

<quad3d> heh, i just instead xjump now.... interesting game

<JKnife> it is fun... XD

<quad3d> made to 10th

<JKnife> ohh my record is 84

<quad3d> nice

<JKnife> it gets FAST

<somerville32> Should we include xJump in Xubuntu feisty? <G>

<JKnife> somerville32: YES

<JKnife> me and adam have already said yes in the ML

<JKnife> and it fits the min req.

<quad3d> i found just kept jamming left+right+up keys gets me higher than try to actually play the game haha

<somerville32> !xjump

<ubotu> xjump: A jumping game for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 132 kB

<somerville32> Hmm... we'd have to get it promoted to main

<somerville32> Does it have an active maintainer?

<JKnife> as in?

<JKnife> it is so stable the latest copyright is 97

<somerville32> lol

<somerville32> How big is it?

<JKnife> but it is so simple there is no bugs really..

* somerville32 nods.

<JKnife> !xjump

<ubotu> xjump: A jumping game for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 132 kB

<JKnife> ^ it told ya

<somerville32> Thats not always reliable

<JKnife> one sec

<JKnife> "Installed-Size: 132"

<JKnife> somerville32: you are gonna love this

<JKnife> "Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>"

<JKnife> shouldn't be hard to get bumped

<quad3d> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root games 32K 2004-08-13 21:28 /usr/games/xjump*

<JKnife> "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1), libx11-6, libxaw7, libxpm4, libxt6" only X deps

<quad3d> ahh :)

<JKnife> quad3d: space also jumps

<JKnife> and it is part of the game and jump 2 levels at once

<quad3d> i just hold the up key now

<JKnife> haha that is great.. bunny hopping FTW!

<somerville32> JKnife: I'm going to create a specification

<JKnife> cool

<somerville32> And I'm also going to write up a MIR

<JKnife> it meets what they were wanting in a game..

<JKnife> mir?

<somerville32> Main Inclusion Request

<JKnife> ahh ok

<quad3d> hmmm... now think about it.... i rather have a wii instead of ipod

<JKnife> quad3d: stop complaing and send me the ipod..

<quad3d> :P

<JKnife> ungreatful

<JKnife> 16megs over doining it on the size?

<JKnife> hi cellofellow

<cellofellow> hi :)

* JKnife made it to floor 84 in XJump

* cellofellow just got back from a Youth Symphony concert.

<JKnife> I am sorry.

<cellofellow> Sorry? I am CELLOFellow. I love it!

<JKnife> I am sorry.

<cellofellow> ok

<JKnife> ok..

* JKnife goes plays warrock

* cellofellow still wishes he could have played the Stille Nacht solo, that girl couldn't play an in-tune note to save her life.

*** JKnife is now known as NotJKnife

<vidd_laptop> ne1 know how to make an ISO ?

<cellofellow> mkiso I think...

<cellofellow> !mkiso

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<cellofellow> man it. I don't think that's right but it might be.

<PuMpErNiCkEl> !info mkisofs

<ubotu> mkisofs: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1316 kB

<cellofellow> thanks PuMpErNiCkEl :)

<vidd_laptop> PuMpErNiCkEl, do you by chance know the proper syntax?

* vidd_laptop has a brain like a sieve

<cellofellow> you probably make a directory with the files you want, and then use mkisofs to put the dir into an image

<cellofellow> RT*M vidd_laptop

<somerville32> NotJKnife, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportXJump

<vidd_laptop> cellofellow, mkisofs [ options ] [ -o filename ] pathspec [pathspec ...] Translation please?

<cellofellow> mkisofs extra options -o outputfile.iso pathspec /path/to/dir/ I think

<vidd_laptop> mkisofs: Symlink /media/cdrom ignored - continuing

<vidd_laptop> ....

<vidd_laptop> -_-

<cellofellow> you want to make an iso from a cd?

<vidd_laptop> well.....yeah

<cellofellow> then just dd if=/dev/cdromsfile of=/path/to/file.iso

<vidd_laptop> how else whould i make an ISO?

<cellofellow> for some reason I thought you were trying to make an iso from a set of other files.

<cellofellow> dd just copies the ISO file that is the /dev file to a "real" file

<vidd_laptop> trying to make a backup of a cd

<cellofellow> I see. I for some screwy reason thought you were making an iso file to batch burn.

<vidd_laptop> make illegal copies of abandoned software??? WHY would someone do that [*cough*sell overseas*cough*

<cellofellow> that's the way to make multiple identical CD's you know.

<cellofellow> vidd, I know you're not selling these overseas. Besides, if you knew anything about economics you'd know that selling to people who can't afford real CD's in China isn't a stable bussiness model.

* vidd_laptop wonders if it works for encrypted dvd?

<cellofellow> maybe

<PuMpErNiCkEl> If they haven't done strange things to the filesystem, yeah.

<cellofellow> unless encrypted DVD doesn't use the ISO 9660 filesystem.

<cellofellow> maybe it's the CSS filesystem.

<vidd_laptop> cellofellow, the thing is...no-one makes win98 cds anymore

<vidd_laptop> so it CAN be worthwhile to sell overseas

<vidd_laptop> and it IS abandoned software....

<vidd_laptop> =]

<PuMpErNiCkEl> ...if only slightly illegal.

<somerville32> Who wants win98 when you can get linux for free?

<somerville32> Anyhow, you can't discuss illegal stuff in here :P

* vidd_laptop is only talking theory

* somerville32 points vidd_laptop to #criminal_theory

* vidd_laptop is ONLY MAKING backups for PERSONAL USE of purchased software

<somerville32> Which violates the EULA

<vidd_laptop> acually...no

<cellofellow> screw the EULA. Why do we have the GPL in the first place?

<vidd_laptop> not the EULA for win98

<vidd_laptop> =[ didnt seam to work right

<cellofellow> sure?

<cellofellow> man dd

* cellofellow may have gotten an option or two wrong

<vidd_laptop> when i try to qemu from the ISO, i get not ready error reading drive d

<cellofellow> did you try putting the -cdrom to point to /dev/cdromfile ?

<cellofellow> see if it was the cd?

<vidd_laptop> it read the cd while making the ISO

<vidd_laptop> this is what i put in:

<vidd_laptop> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/vidd/Desktop/win98.iso

<cellofellow> ok

<cellofellow> but did you try booting qemu from the /dev device file? Maybe it's the CD.

<vidd_laptop> so that SHOULD make the iso

<vidd_laptop> yeah...THAT is working

<cellofellow> or did you try mounting the iso file? mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mount/point/

<vidd_laptop> qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda /home/vidd/Desktop/win98.img -m 256 -boot d

<vidd_laptop> that works

<cellofellow> good

<cellofellow> not good

<cellofellow> can you mount it?

<cellofellow> in the host linux?

<vidd_laptop> it is mounted

<vidd_laptop> it shows up on the desktop...that means itsmounted....right?

<cellofellow> I don't think qemu will mount an already mounted file.

<cellofellow> no

<cellofellow> vidd_laptop: in terminal type mount. that shows what's mounted.

* cellofellow knows he's booted iso images as cds in qemu

<vidd_laptop> so have i

<cellofellow> I'm installing qemu right now.

* maxamillion has as well

<cellofellow> vidd_laptop: can you loop mount the iso image?

* maxamillion installed win2kpro on qemu just for kicks

* vidd_laptop PREFERS to boot ISO's rather then cd's....it runs faster

<maxamillion> ah, rgr

<vidd_laptop> loopmount?

<cellofellow> mount -o loop /local/file /mount/point

<cellofellow> it makes a loop /dev file that points to the local file

<vidd_laptop> all this aggrevation just to watch some videos and play ST armada!

<cellofellow> :/

<vidd_laptop> oh! and C&C

* vidd_laptop has to go to bed!

<vidd_laptop> maxamillion, you know if ne1 got a qemu of vista to run yet?

<maxamillion> vidd_laptop: don't know anyone with a machine powerful enough to do that

<maxamillion> vidd_laptop: get vista to run on a complete system emulator would be insane and probably require a dual processor dual core machine with no less than 4gb of ram

* vidd_laptop is going to try assigning 2 gig of swap and try to fool vista into thinking it has the needed hardware

* maxamillion votes it will crash out or be so slow it will be un-usable

<vidd_laptop> i dont need it to run fast....i just need it to run

<vidd_laptop> i need to know what my company needs to do to have our dial-up customers able to set up dial-up and e-mail on it

<somerville32> Tell your company you need a new computer to find that out

<somerville32> cellofellow, ping

<vidd_laptop> IE7 blew up our accelerator program

<cellofellow> somerville32: pong

<somerville32> cellofellow, How is the collaboration w/ other teams going?

<vidd_laptop> you can even run OE7

<cellofellow> brb, I need to feed the dog

<vidd_laptop> well....with our accelerator anyway

<somerville32> vidd_laptop, Where do you work?

<vidd_laptop> the company is called NuNet

<somerville32> Move to linux

<somerville32> :]

<vidd_laptop> dont i wish

<cellofellow> back

<cellofellow> somerville32: ping

<somerville32> pong

<cellofellow> what exactly do you want me to do? Could you put together some kind of job briefing?

* cellofellow has to go to bed soon.

<cellofellow> somerville32 ?

<somerville32> Sure.

<somerville32> Get involved with ubuntu-marketing and ubuntu-doc

<somerville32> Build connections

<somerville32> And lets see what initiatives we can take

<somerville32> See if you can find other interested parties

<somerville32> etc.

<cellofellow> ok. That's what you want me to DO but what are some goals? or some goals for goals?

<maxamillion> my first plan this summer is to get on the ubuntu control center team, i really want that available asap

<maxamillion> that is the biggest complaint from new users

<somerville32> cellofellow, Well, I'd like to see solid Xubuntu marketing and documentation efforts started and maintained

<maxamillion> "why can't i just have a program that will configure or install this for me?"

<cellofellow> OK. So establish a Xubuntu image and some presence?

* somerville32 nods.

<somerville32> Exactly.

<cellofellow> ok. I'll work on that later. But not really later.

* cellofellow makes a note

<maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah, pretty much .. be like "we are here, loud and proud.... step asside because we are about to start kicking butt and taking names" :)

<somerville32> :D

<somerville32> Also, cellofellow, you should hang out in #xubuntu-devel

<cellofellow> I do sometimes. I also am subscribed to the mailing list.

<somerville32> Awesome. :]

<cellofellow> Well, my dad will get really mad if I don't turn this computer off in a minute. So, cya!

<somerville32> Later

* somerville32 waves.

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<Jester45_afk> is there away to make any window transpernt

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<Jester45> is there away to make any window transpernt

<maxamillion> Jester45: you have composit enabled?

<Jester45> i dont know

<NotJKnife> maxamillion: i made it past 80 floors

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<maxamillion> JKnife: you _really_ need to get out more

<Jester45> what are lking about

<JKnife> maxamillion: =\ i just need a girl...

<maxamillion> Jester45: its a feature of xfce for transparency, JKnife can explain it better

<Jester45> JKnife: you need a man

<Jester45> girls run from you

<maxamillion> ew

<JKnife> =/ girls dont run from me.. it is usally a slap and then they walk away

<maxamillion> close enoufh

<maxamillion> g|f

<maxamillion> f|g ... whatever

<Jester45> is there away to make any window transparent

<JKnife> Jester45: transset with compositing

<JKnife> or beryl

<JKnife> beryl = ctl + wheelmouse

<Jester45> first choice

<JKnife> transset

<Jester45> package?

<JKnife> transset

<Jester45> k

<Jester45> how do i use it

<JKnife> transset [valuse less then 1]

<JKnife> then click on a program

<JKnife> maxamillion: 84 floors to be exact

<maxamillion> Jester45: it is built into xfce4

<maxamillion> JKnife: :/

<JKnife> maxamillion: not transset

<maxamillion> i don't even think i have it installed at home

<JKnife> hehe

<maxamillion> JKnife: oh ... then why not just use xfce's built in?

<JKnife> =/ it gets REALLY fast..

<JKnife> cause transset != compositing manager

<Jester45> get really fast?

<Jester45> im confused

<Jester45> ok its installed

<maxamillion> but he didn't say he wanted to use transset, just wanted to make a window transparent ... compositing manager does that for you and its built in, why not use it?

<JKnife> "01:29 <Jester45> is there away to make any window transparent"

<maxamillion> Jester45: the game xjump gets really fast

<Jester45> is there away to make any window transparent

<Jester45> o

<Jester45> ok how to i do this think

<JKnife> and transset will do that

<maxamillion> so will compositor

<Jester45> i would like to use my mousewheel

* maxamillion gives up because nobody listens to him anyways

<Jester45> you 2 are like a married couple

<Jester45> yes just shut up

<JKnife> and you our son

<Jester45> ok...

<JKnife> goto your room...

<maxamillion> lol

<Jester45> kinky

<JKnife> haha

<Jester45> max come here

* Jester45 runs to his mom (maxamillion)

<maxamillion> neg

<Jester45> how do i use transset

<JKnife> haha

<JKnife> transset 0.5

<JKnife> run that

<JKnife> then click on a window

* maxamillion wears the pants around here

* JKnife slaps maxamillion

<JKnife> don't speak

<JKnife> :)

<Jester45> maxamillion: you forgot that now a-days skirts anrnt pants

<bigfuzzyjesus> bigfuzzyjesus, slowly exits the irc channel with out any sudden movements

* maxamillion refrains beause net arguements == talking to a brick

<Jester45> transset not working

* JKnife pulls bigfuzzyjesus back

<Jester45> maxamillion: whats your idea

<JKnife> Jester45: =\ you do have compositing enabled?

* bigfuzzyjesus struggles to get away

<Jester45> JKnife: no

<Jester45> JKnife: i dont think so

<Jester45> JKnife: wheres it at

* JKnife shrugs

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Wow, it's like AOL invaded this channel, and won.

<maxamillion> lol

<JKnife> window manager tweaks

<somerville32> Guys, I don't mean to be a jerk, but make more of an effort to stay on topic.

<somerville32> If you want to joke around, #xubuntu-offtopic is the place to be.

<somerville32> Heck, you can even @lart each other there

<Jester45> somerville32: what happened to you this week

* JKnife feels somerville32 is killing the mood

<bigfuzzyjesus> @lart me

<Jester45> sit on a stick?

<maxamillion> somerville32: they are trying to get Jester45's desktop to allow transparent windows ...

<bigfuzzyjesus> :'( *100000000

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, whats wrong with humor, ya funwrecker

<somerville32> There is nothing wrong with it

<Jester45> the wm tweaks dont have anything about compiz

<somerville32> But this channel is for support

<somerville32> Lets keep it to support

<somerville32> #xubuntu-offtopic for fooling around

<bigfuzzyjesus> not creating fictitous familys?

<JKnife> Jester45: edit ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml

<JKnife> and set WindowCompositing to 1

<Jester45> somerville32: we are tierd and bored let us have a little fun

<somerville32> Jester45, Just join #xubuntu-offtopic :]

<Jester45> why

<somerville32> Because you can fool around and joke and all that good stuff there

<Jester45> not bothering anyone here

<somerville32> This channel is for support and you ARE bothering people

<Jester45> but you

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Yes you are.

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, but there is no one in here and even less people in offtopoc

<Jester45> if 200 people instanly join i will shut up

<Jester45> ps. your bots dont count

<somerville32> Jester45: Please do as directed.

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, only you an PuMpErNiCkEl are offended

<Jester45> your causing more trouble

<Jester45> but

<Jester45> sorry for your wasted bandwidth

<bigfuzzyjesus> Jester45, me, JKnife and maxamillion are just fine

<PuMpErNiCkEl> bigfuzzyjesus: You're also not ops in this channel.

<Jester45> shutup bigfuzzyjesus

<Jester45> hehe

<PuMpErNiCkEl> This isn't a FFA channel, it's for support.

<Jester45> PuMpErNiCkEl: what about emotional support

* bigfuzzyjesus craws into a hole and strangles him self

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Jester45: Call a psychiatrist.

<Jester45> i have no wmtweaks

<Jester45> in .config

<Jester45> .config/xfce4/mc_settings

<JKnife> edgy?

<Jester45> drapper

<JKnife> -_-

<JKnife> goto gentoo-wiki.com and see how to enable compositing.. it even has a guide for XFCE

<maxamillion> i used compositing in dapper

<JKnife> i used compiz in dapper ==

<JKnife> =\*

<Jester45> somerville32: i need support :)

<bigfuzzyjesus> Jester45, breast support?

<Jester45> lower thigh

<Jester45> :)

<bigfuzzyjesus> XD

<Jester45> really i want help please

<bigfuzzyjesus> Jester45, with what

<Jester45> i pay big

<maxamillion> children, can you atleast attempt to comply with chan rules?

<Jester45> is there away to make any window transparent

<bigfuzzyjesus> spill the beans f'r

<Jester45> maxamillion: im tring

<bigfuzzyjesus> Jester45, fluxbuntu, icewm

<Jester45> maxamillion: it was hard to resist

<Jester45> TheSheep: help

<Jester45> somerville32: help

<Jester45> PuMpErNiCkEl: help

<Jester45> crimsun: help

<Jester45> umm

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<bigfuzzyjesus> Jester45, way to spam

<bigfuzzyjesus> ChanServ, who did you ban

<crimsun> he can be extremely juvenile at times.

<somerville32> I think thats our first ban, like ever

<somerville32> lol

<crimsun> nah, I've banned a few people about six months ago

<maxamillion> whoa ... a ban?

<somerville32> Ah.

<JKnife> he is the only one at this time

<bigfuzzyjesus> did you ban jester45

<somerville32> Nothing to see here folks, lets move on.

<JKnife> bigfuzzyjesus: yes he did

<crimsun> I generally don't entangle myself in channel management; it becomes too time-consuming.

* somerville32 nods.

<maxamillion> http://customisinglife.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/enabling-xfwms-compositor/ <---answer to his question ... took 2 seconds with google

<somerville32> Feel free to msg him

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, ok generic police offer

<maxamillion> www.googleityoumoron.com <---link someone should give him

<JKnife> maxamillion: it is also on the gentoo-wiki

<JKnife> does that redirect to google?

<crimsun> it's actually a bug in Xfce 4.4 RC afaik

<JKnife> crimsun: but it wasn't there in dapper

<JKnife> it showed up in edgy

<crimsun> one of a few possible workarounds is in the xubuntu-devel mailing list archives

<somerville32> JKnife, Dapper used the beta

<bigfuzzyjesus> anyone here like the new pornographers

<maxamillion> JKnife: no, visit it ... its funny

<somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, What does porn have to do with Xubuntu support?

<JKnife> maxamillion: i just did

<maxamillion> JKnife: :)

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, its a band

<somerville32> Ah

<somerville32> Welp, bigfuzzyjesus, thats for -offtopic

<bigfuzzyjesus> ;)

<somerville32> And I don't ask again :)

<bigfuzzyjesus> ugh but theres noone there

<bigfuzzyjesus> :'(

<somerville32> Invite people :]

<JKnife> http://www.googleityoumoron.com/?go=xfwm+compositing+ubuntu+dapper XD

<JKnife> somerville32: you have to be +o for /invite

<somerville32> Just msg them and say "Come visit -offtopic"

<somerville32> OR heck, I'll change it so that non-ops can invite :P

<JKnife> people usally don't join if you do that

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, that would help

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, did you set that up

<somerville32> I dunno if it'll work but I tried

<bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, doesnt work, says i need chanop

<PuMpErNiCkEl> It may be a part of the IRC protocol that only ops can invite.

<somerville32> Might be the client

<bigfuzzyjesus> im using xchat

<somerville32> Same here

<JKnife> irssi ftw! XD

<maxamillion> irssi ftw

<JKnife> haha

<maxamillion> lawl

<JKnife> ohhh max you gotta see this

<JKnife> one sec

<JKnife> there ya go

<JKnife> hi kkaisare

<kkaisare> JKnife: Greetings.

<maxamillion> hello kkaisare

* JKnife hands maxamillion /dcc get

<kkaisare> maxamillion: Greetings

<kkaisare> Greetings all.

<JKnife> hehe

* JKnife praises beryl

<maxamillion> erm... looks too much like a minimal install of vista with some customizations

* JKnife pokes maxamillion

<JKnife> :(

<JKnife> somerville32: i am good..

* maxamillion doesn't like vista

<JKnife> bigfuzzyjesus: i am good

<JKnife> maxamillion: i like the theme

<JKnife> well the window themes

<maxamillion> JKnife: fair enough ... we are entitled to our opinion

<somerville32> I wanna see

* JKnife uploaded it to imageshack

<JKnife> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7462/mydesktopmf6.jpg

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, is that ontop of xfce

<JKnife> bigfuzzyjesus: yes

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, how how how

<JKnife> magic

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, do you know of a tutorial

<JKnife> !google

<ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com - Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux

<maxamillion> !beryl

<ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl

<bigfuzzyjesus> :'(

<maxamillion> http://wiki.beryl-project.org is what i was hoping it would spit at me

<JKnife> it is super easy to set up in 7.03

<JKnife> 7.o4*

<JKnife> 7.04*

<bigfuzzyjesus> jknife did you use beryl

<JKnife> bigfuzzyjesus: yes

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, what kind of grafix card do you have

<JKnife> nvidia geforce 4 mx 4000 64mb pci

<bigfuzzyjesus> i have a nvidia with 256mem that i could use but i have never figured out how to set it up

<maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: i use it at work .... http://www.swooh.com/home/adam/xubuntu/berylGears.png

* JKnife has never seen maxamillion work pc

<bigfuzzyjesus> maxamillion, if you dont mind me asking, where do you work

<JKnife> he works for his....

<maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: i work for my university's library, i am a sys tech there

<maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu <--tutorials

<bigfuzzyjesus> gracias

<maxamillion> de'nada

<maxamillion> hello corleno

<corleno> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllAdvantage | http://www.agloco.com/web/guest/home

* JKnife advises corleno from offtopic stuff

<JKnife> spam XD

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<JKnife> ban happy?

<somerville32> ;]

* maxamillion wants to ban the next one :)

* JKnife wonders if anyone has fserves set up here..

<maxamillion> ner

<maxamillion> neg*

<JKnife> i can not list my self :(

<maxamillion> i sorry

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<hyper_ch> JKnife: still here?

<JKnife> maybe...

<hyper_ch> how can I make a print screen in xubuntu?

<JKnife> ?

<hyper_ch> the button alone just doesn't work... it used to in kde

<JKnife> ohh take a screenshot?

<hyper_ch> I press PrintScreen, go to gimp, select insert as new image and nothing happens

<JKnife> i just use scrot

<JKnife> !scrot

<ubotu> scrot: command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-7 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB

<hyper_ch> another tool needs to be used?

* JKnife shrugs

<JKnife> i have been using scrot for a LONG time.. and just never found the xfce way

<hyper_ch> well, in windoze you just press the printscreen button and same in kde... (don't know about gnome)

<maxamillion> anyone ever played scorched3d?

<JKnife> maxamillion: yes

<JKnife> i like XScorched better..

<maxamillion> really?

<maxamillion> i never played Xscorched

<maxamillion> i am playing liquid war right now ... great game but the computer is too easy to beat

<hyper_ch> I loved scorched3d

<hyper_ch> but then worms came out :)

<maxamillion> hyper_ch: wait ... worms?

<maxamillion> hyper_ch: link?

<hyper_ch> btw, where can I change the keyboard layout?

<JKnife> worms3d? never heard of it?

<JKnife> omg that was the greatest game XD

<maxamillion> link me link me!@!@!$#^

<hyper_ch> http://worms.team17.com/

<maxamillion> open source and free?

<hyper_ch> nope

<hyper_ch> but great fun to play on a playstation :)

<hyper_ch> ninja rope

<hyper_ch> :)

<maxamillion> oh ... i am looking for good linux games

<hyper_ch> but still, where can I change the keyboard layout?

<maxamillion> anyone know of a linux game comparable to counter strike that is in the repos?

<maxamillion> hyper_ch: should be in the settings manager

<JKnife> setting->keyboard settings

<hyper_ch> JKnife: and how there? I see three tabs "settings, shortcuts, accessibility"

<hyper_ch> JKnife: but neither lets change the layout just on how it reacts on pressing keys...

<JKnife> ohh =\

<hyper_ch> I have mistakenly selected a wrong layout and now I don't have an "at" anymore

<PuMpErNiCkEl> maxamillion: Nexuiz.

<frandavid100> hi people

<PuMpErNiCkEl> It's a blend of CS and Quake.

<hyper_ch> or what command to execute to setup again the keyboard selection thing?

<frandavid100> I just installed xubuntu on a low-end machine and it's going very slow, can you point me to a faq or something to get it going a bit faster?

<frandavid100> maybe recommend me a really light web browser?

<hyper_ch> frandavid100: how low is the low end?

<maxamillion> PuMpErNiCkEl: yeah, i got that one ... reminds me of ut-goty

<frandavid100> really low, 300 mhz 64 mb ram

<hyper_ch> frandavid100: get another 64mb ram and it will run much better :)

<PuMpErNiCkEl> frandavid100: Dillo is a low-resource browser.

<hyper_ch> or lynx :)

<PuMpErNiCkEl> maxamillion: There's a surprisingly good resource on free and open-source fps games at Wikipedia.

<frandavid100> the problem is, Im not sure I can get that type of ram. Maybe second-hand

<hyper_ch> with 64mb ram you may even think about using another desktop.... something like fluxbox

<maxamillion> PuMpErNiCkEl: yeah, just looked there ... cross referenceing with what's in the repos

<hyper_ch> it's sd-ram right?

<PuMpErNiCkEl> cool

<frandavid100> I think so, yeah

<maxamillion> brb

<frandavid100> dillo then?

<hyper_ch> frandavid100: actually I found on ebay 2 weeks or so back 64mb and 128mb sd-ram for notebooks... because a friend of mine had the same prolbme

<hyper_ch> instead of running windoze 98 on his old notebook he has now 192mb ram and runs edgy :)

<frandavid100> I could do that too, yeah :D

<hyper_ch> the 128mb block cost him like $ 25.-

<frandavid100> not very expensive

<hyper_ch> frandavid100: compared to the performance boost :)

<frandavid100> ok gonna take a look in ebay

<frandavid100> thanks hyper_ch

<frandavid100> ^^

<hyper_ch> good luck

<hyper_ch> frandavid100: well, with the another 64 you should also be able to use openoffice

<frandavid100> what about abiword? should the 64 I got now handle it?

<frandavid100> yet another question: I can't seem to change the default language to spanish. How do you do that?

<frandavid100> I'm used to gnome and things are a bit different here

<frandavid100> brb, gonna boot from the xfce machine

<frandavid101> hi again

<frandavid101> I seem to be having random problems here

<frandavid101> for example, <i can't access the networking configuration

<frandavid101> it says that "I'm not allowed to access the system configuration"

<wi1dfire> wee i gained 2.00 in stocks!

<hyper_ch> is that good?

<frandavid101> later guys!

<wi1dfire> lol. well i have a spread in stocks.. its ok.. more ups than down atleast.

* wi1dfire wishes that his mpg's had sound.. does'nt know why not.

<Jaapingviini> Hi! How can i change the colour of Xfce -panels?

<nicola> Hi guys, do you think it would be possible to have a "open directory with audacious/or_any_other_application" command in thunar right click ?

<crimsun> does that make sense?

<Wildfir1> how can i disable screensaver

<nicola> crimsun, it would make senso to me

<nicola> because audacious does not handle library

<Wildfir1> screensaver is making me get up every 10 mins.. and thats annoying when ur trying to watch a movie

<crimsun> nicola: it's the '/or_any_other_application' that's perplexing

<nicola> I mean I need to work a directory with an application

<nicola> ehm to open

<hyper_ch> anyone knows what a dns suffix is?

<Wildfir1> nm xscreensaver-demo worked.

<nicola> crimsun, on #thunar told me about "custom actions"

<nicola> I'll work on it

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<nicola> crimsun, I did it.

<nicola> the open with audacious with thunar

<crimsun> great

<pepik> hi i have some questions about getting java and flash working...

<pepik> i installed them with easyubuntu but they aren't working on firefox.

<nicola> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html

<pepik> isn't that a beta?

<nicola> yes it is, but it's only working

<nicola> you just need to copy libflashplayer.so to

<nicola> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins

<nicola> not sure if you have to restart firefox

<nicola> if you still have problem with flash follow this guide

<nicola> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox

<pepik> ok but before i do that let me ask - in synaptic, flashplugin-nonfree installed, but not flashplayer-mozilla. By the descriptions they are both flash players for firefox. should i try the second or just go with your way?

<nicola> from here

<nicola> Note: if firefox crashes when visiting a website with flash content, do the following:

<nicola> I don't know if they added this beta to the repo (I don't think so)

<nicola> now I have to go

<pepik> ok thanks!

<hyper_ch> hey, I got a problem when I try to boot the 2.6.19-7 kernel

<hyper_ch> in recovery mode I get an output: Alert! /dev/hda6 does not exist!

<hyper_ch> dropping to shell

<hyper_ch> and then a "can't access tty; job controlled turned off

<hyper_ch> however with the 2.6.17-x kernel there is no problem :(

<ephemeros> hey \m/

<ephemeros> gothic 3 wants its toll for today, see you \m/

<slow-motion> hallo

<kriel> okay. basic question. I'm stuck in CLI for reasons unknown, and I can't get mount to work. mke2fs seems to work to format the hard drive, but then mount whines when i try to mount it as an ext2 partition.

<kriel> # mke2fs /dev/hdc # mkdir stuff # mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc /stuff

<slawek> hey guys

<slawek> how do u change keyboard layout in xubuntu?

<slawek> i need to change it from US to UK

<Tuxguy> Anyone had problems getting the imac G3 to read burnt cds?

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<martin__> hello, does anyone know how to change the screen resolution in xubuntu?

<TheSheep> martin__: settings->display settuings

<TheSheep> settings

<martin__> ok, that was easy.. he he, thanks..

<somerville32> TheSheep, did you say you're keeping a list of FAQs?

<TheSheep> somerville32: yes, so far I have 4 ;)

<somerville32> Do you have answers for them? I'd like to start adding some factoids to ubotu for xubuntu

<lumaQ1> Hi dudes. can i ask a question about ubuntu & Xubuntu ??

<somerville32> !ask

<ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)

<somerville32> :)

<martin__> another thing i have been thinking about is how to create shoorcuts, say for example that i want to creat a shortcut to a folder on my desktop, how do i do that, i have searched the net bu i could not find anything..

<lumaQ1> ok

<TheSheep> martin__: for folders, just make a link

<lumaQ1> well ~~ when 7.04 is out, will that be the same for xubuntu too ?

<lumaQ1> or does that have a diff relese date?

<TheSheep> martin__: for other applications, create a launcher -- it's a text file with a '.desktop' extension

<somerville32> lumaQ1, Same release date

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: ubuntu and xubuntu have the same schedule

<lumaQ1> so, what will be different in the xubuntu thats out then

<lumaQ1> ?

<lumaQ1> because XFCE goes thru changes too right?

* somerville32 nods.

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: mostly nower versions of software, some new lightweight programs, some more GUI for common configuration

<somerville32> Xubuntu will get (hopefully) better with each release just like Ubuntu

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: and new artwork ;)

<martin__> ahh, creating a link worked fine,, thanks again!

<tumler> !flac

<ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats

<lumaQ1> ok so do you know what xubuntu wll look like then ? you can get screenshots of ubuntu 7.04 now. and to be honest its not that different in fact i cant see anything...

<lumaQ1> oh and Why do you guys use xubuntu? and not K/Ubuntu?

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: there won't be any dramatic changes in looks

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: you don't fix thngs that work

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: there will be different theme used by default, probably -- murrina

<lumaQ1> ok.

<lumaQ1> but i mean will things change like how the whole thing looks?

<martin__> ok, now one final question that i have not been able to find the answer to, i have to screens attached to my computer, one CRT and one LCD-TV. They are cloned so that i get the sam picture on both screens and that works fine, but when i want to watch a movie on my TV i only get picture on the CRT screen, the tv just shows a blueish field where the picture should be. Does any one know why this is and how to get picture on my tv?

<lumaQ1> i dont really hate the look of ubuntu, but i think that every release should have something special about it.

<martin__> to=two (sorry)

<lumaQ1> look at windows and mac, that is the first thing that you see.... the default desktop. so i think that it would be better to upgrate the look of the whole thing.

<TheSheep> martin__: looks like an overlay -- the movie is displayed using the graphic card's acceleration, and for some reason that doesn't get output to the second screen -- it's proceessed by a separate chip. No idea how to fix that, though :(

<PuMpErNiCkEl> It's probably not fixable without a change to the video card driver.

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: every release has different backdrop ;)

<lumaQ1> The sheep !! haha LOL thats true...

<lumaQ1> but maybe ~~ you knw...

<lumaQ1> a bigger difference will be nicer. TheSheep are you using xfce?

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: if the whole layout changed everytime, then people who used the previous version would need to get used to the new one

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: yes

<martin__> TheSheep, i think that you are supposed to change the second screen to be the primary screen but i dont know how..

<TheSheep> martin__: probably by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf

<lumaQ1> TheSheep...good point i used to use Mac 9.something then i upgraded to X and that was REALLY different but the idea was the same. just looked nicer.

<TheSheep> martin__: there should be some options to your card driver

<lumaQ1> TheSheep ~ could i see your screen shot? if you have a pic of it.. just wanna see what yours looks like.

<somerville32> lumaq1: That would occur in Winows too, I believe.

<TheSheep> http://sheep.art.pl/iluvwin.png

<lumaQ1> Right it looks nicer and nicer. and lets be honest If it sells....make it look SEXY(thats was ubuntu is anyway just 100%sexy ~~)

<somerville32> TheSheep: Sweet :)

<lumaQ1> TheSheep looks like windows 98 haha

<somerville32> lumaQ1: You can make the different linux desktops look like any other desktop environment

<somerville32> I've seen Ubuntu desktops that look exactly like Vista

<lumaQ1> i know.

<lumaQ1> haha yeah i saw one of those too.

<lumaQ1> i love my desktop.. so i have the peformance of ubuntu and the looks of ~~ i dunno a pink space alien on acid??

<TheSheep> ok, my real screenshot: http://sheep.art.pl/shot.png

<somerville32> I'll take a screenie of mine <g>

<martin__> TheSheep, but there is only one screen defined in my xorg.conf.. guess i have to add it manually?

<lumaQ1> is that terminal your using ?

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: yes, Terminal

<lumaQ1> wow how do you use terminal to do that?

<lumaQ1> CRAZY!

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: ah, you mean the irc client? it's irssi

<lumaQ1> o

<TheSheep> the best irc client I ever used

<somerville32> :]

<lumaQ1> cool

<lumaQ1> somervill where is your screen shot?

* somerville32 is uploading.

<lumaQ1> ok

<TheSheep> r

<TheSheep> sry

<lumaQ1> where can i upload my screenshot?

<somerville32> Picasa?

<lumaQ1> no account with them ....

<somerville32> http://lh6.google.com/image/cody.somerville/RXxoMDWF-1I/AAAAAAAAAAg/RvOFZRloDAI/xubuntu_edgy.jpg

<TheSheep> somerville32: wow, you only use one workspace?

<somerville32> Yup! :~D

<lumaQ1> :(

<TheSheep> hi max

<maxamillion> hello

<maxamillion> how are you?

<TheSheep> alive and kicking

<somerville32> TheSheep: Ou est le FAQ?

<TheSheep> somerville32: dans le welcome wiki

<maxamillion> anyone with thoughts on xubuntuguide.org?

<somerville32> Quel est le welcome wiki addy?

<TheSheep> searcher aux http://welcome.sheep.art.pl

<lumaQ1> Oh Question ~~ does anyone here use like a blogging program ?? not sure what its called where you can write your blogg without going into the website?

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: no, i don't personally but i have heard of them ... lemme check real quick

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: there are manu such blogging programs -- one allows you to write blogs trough jabber

<lumaQ1> ok maxamillion ~~

<lumaQ1> jabber? whats jabber?

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: what blog service?

<lumaQ1> < Blogger

<maxamillion> ok

<lumaQ1> http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/1871/2057/1600/42438/Screenshot.png < my screen shot. if you have time please take a look, if you like it let me know, if you think its ugly please tell me why !! heheh Sam

<somerville32> TheSheep: Merci. Je verrai de l'addition de quelques faits à l'a chargé pour automatiser le répondre de ces FAQS

<silvertip257> I have recently noticed that my install of Xubuntu Dapper (6.06) does not have the lock workstation icon ... is that the same with all Xubuntu versions ?

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: i like it, but isn't that gnome?

<lumaQ1> it is gnome.. im not on xubuntu yet.

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: ah ok

<somerville32> Nice :]

<lumaQ1> i did try but it failed ~~ so im waiting to change over but i dont know if xubuntu is going to be pleasing to the eye!!!~~

<TheSheep> silvertip257: you can easily add that icon

<silvertip257> oh how TheSheep ?

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: screenshot of my machine at work ---> http://www.swooh.com/home/adam/xubuntu/berylGears.png

<TheSheep> silvertip257: right-click on the 'exit/logout' icon

<TheSheep> silvertip257: select 'preferences'

<silvertip257> lemme boot up my box w/ Xubuntu right now

<silvertip257> kk

<lumaQ1> maxamillion?? what do you do ?

<lumaQ1> that screen is HUGE!!

<silvertip257> wow yes it is

<somerville32> Dual screen

<somerville32> Ewww @ Ada. Looks like a horrible language.

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: its 2 screens .... i am a sys tech for my university, i'm just a student ... don't get to do anything too cool but the machine i have at my desk is awesome

<maxamillion> somerville32: it is .... very horrible

<lumaQ1> maxamillion cool im a student too...

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: what year?

<lumaQ1> not the same as you tho...

<lumaQ1> grade 2

<maxamillion> wait ... like 2nd grade, elemtary school?

<somerville32> maxamillion, However, looking at the code makes my blood bump and my body ache to start coding something :D

<maxamillion> don't you just love that?

<lumaQ1> maxamillion hahaha no second grade university.

<maxamillion> somerville32: i start learning python on firday!@!!!

<maxamillion> friday*

<lumaQ1> maxamillion did you find any software for blogger blogging?

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: no :(

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: i know they exist though, i've heard of them

<lumaQ1> :(

<lumaQ1> yeah i did try one but it didnt open or connect to my blogging site.

<maxamillion> ah

<lumaQ1> whats the application installer called again?

<lumaQ1> sympa what ic?

<maxamillion> synaptic

<lumaQ1> thats it... i dont know why on my computer its called Xin LI De ???

<maxamillion> lumaQ1: ???? ... did you install a different language pack?

<lumaQ1> yeah its in chinese.

<lumaQ1> but i dont know why its called 新立德？ that makes no sence!!!~~~

<TheSheep> :)

<TheSheep> probably some translator with imagination :)

* maxamillion doesn't know what that means

<lumaQ1> anyway ladies im off to bed..

<maxamillion> lol, alright

<maxamillion> laters

<TheSheep> translaete.google.com says "New Rucker"

<lumaQ1> ( 新 new 立 stand up or set up 得 moral? ) < i dont understand either !

<lumaQ1> new rucker?

<lumaQ1> it sounds like new leader when you read it...?

<TheSheep> lumaQ1: how is "software" in chinese?

<lumaQ1> i wonder...~~

<lumaQ1> software? same Soft and ware .

<lumaQ1> 软件

<lumaQ1> 硬件 hard ware

<lumaQ1> simple.

<maxamillion> lol, a lady just ran into my door because she thought my office was something else and just tried to walk in, but we keep it locked ... it was funny

<TheSheep> because there was "install new application" afair

<lumaQ1> hahahahah

<lumaQ1> maxamillllion SILLLY woman !!!~~~~~

<maxamillion> it was funny :)

<lumaQ1> i bet...

<maxamillion> i have it on security cameras in hi def for fun later too :P

<lumaQ1> hahahhaha~~~~

<lumaQ1> send it to me sometime...

<lumaQ1> id love to see it.

<lumaQ1> haha ok well going to bed now.. 4am gotta sleep~~~

<lumaQ1> O:-)

<TheSheep> good night

<Jhuri> hi

<maxamillion> Jhuri: hello

<Jhuri> remember me with the problematic k6-2?

<maxamillion> not off the top of my head ... :/ ... refresh my memory a little :)

<Jhuri> I managed to compile a custom kernel on a less problematic celeron

<Jhuri> I had a 386 kernel straight from the repository

<Jhuri> on a k6 that was giving me problems, faulty cpu code, popping noises in sound output, etc

<Jhuri> so I compiled a k6 custom kernel, working much better now

<maxamillion> well thats good

<silvertip257> TheSheep, here's another dummy question, how do i find the menu to change the screensaver? I havent touched my xubuntu in a while b/c this next week is final week :'(

<maxamillion> Jhuri: awesome, glad to hear you got that resolved

<silvertip257> NVM ... it's under settings manager

<TheSheep> silvertip257: yes, no idead why it doesn;t have a menu entry

<Jhuri> maxamillion: thanx

<Jhuri> anbybody wants a bite?

<maxamillion> Jhuri: ?

<Jhuri> the kernel that is ))

<Jhuri> I was surprised with the quantity of people with k6s here

<maxamillion> Jhuri: you should make a wiki page documenting what you did so everyone can benefit from it :) ... http://wiki.ubuntu.com

<Jhuri> haha, its not a big deal there are plenty of pages how to build a custom kernel the debian way

<maxamillion> oh ... okies

<silvertip257> exactly TheSheep that has me puzzled

<Jhuri> there was this ShogoXubuntu person here last night, he had the same problems with his machine, too bad he isnt here today

<silvertip257> thanks for everything .... cya later

<Jhuri> and JKnife has a k6 too

<TheSheep> maxamillion: you think I need to do something to be able to write on the xubuntu-devel mailing list?

<TheSheep> maxamillion: so far none of my posts appeared :(

<maxamillion> TheSheep: really? ... hrmmm... i dunno, i just joined and it worked

<maxamillion> speaking of ....

* maxamillion checks his email

<TheSheep> maybe I'm banned :(

<maxamillion> TheSheep: i doubt it

<ericb> Does anyone have familiarity with installing NVIDIA drivers?

<Jhuri> dont ask a question, ask the question

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Many people. What's your real question?

<somerville32> !ask

<ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)

<somerville32> :D

<somerville32> Oh wait

<somerville32> Isn't there another factoid for this?

<PuMpErNiCkEl> There's an !anyone factoid.

<maxamillion> !nvidia-glx

<somerville32> Oh yeah

<ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB

<maxamillion> :)

<somerville32> !anyone | ericb

<ubotu> ericb: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?

<somerville32> :D

<PuMpErNiCkEl> I think we scared him.

<ericb> no, im here =]

<ericb> it'll take more than that

<maxamillion> ericb: do you use synaptic to install software or the command line?

<Jhuri> sooo?

<ericb> i downloaded the drivers from the nvidia site and used the command line

<ericb> i worked in ubuntu

<ericb> but not for xubuntu

<Jhuri> why wont u use the repository?

<ericb> well i think that's what im about to do

<ericb> i just tried doing what worked with ubuntu

<maxamillion> ericb: yeah, there is the official nvidia drivers available from the ubuntu repositories in an easy to install binary package

<ericb> ok awesome!

<ericb> i'll take a look, ty :)

<cellofellow> anybody know a command line utility that can convert MS-Office 2000 .doc into PDF and/or PNG WITH pics included?

<snype> no clue

<Jhuri> that is a tough one ))

<cellofellow> I don't want to have to install openoffice to turn this document into a read-only format.

<snype> anyone know how to switch from internal to external displays

<maxamillion> cellofellow: abiword ... save as (change file extension to .pdf)

<cellofellow> Abiword would work in normal conditions, but this is a document with lots of pics

<cellofellow> no offense, but abiword sucks with pics.

<maxamillion> meh, i don't care ... i don't devel the app :P

<TheSheep> cellofellow: gimp is good with pics ;)

<cellofellow> what I really need is a command line utility to SSH in from my Granny's computer and run the conversion with.

<TheSheep> cellofellow: try wv

<cellofellow> My preference for this project she has would have been inkscape, but she had Word.

<maxamillion> !wv

<ubotu> wv: Programs for accessing Microsoft Word documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 86 kB, installed size 2112 kB

<cellofellow> ok

<cellofellow> thanks for the tip

<ericb> for nvidia drivers, all that I need is the nvidia-glx package?

<cellofellow> looks good :)

<cellofellow> yeah, and the linux-restricted-modules-<your kernel version>

<maxamillion> ericb: yeah, install nvidia-glx and then change your xorg.conf to use the nvidia drivers instead of the open source nv ones

<Jhuri> ericb: depends what card u got + restricted modules pavkage

<maxamillion> Jhuri: he had the nvidia drivers working from nvidia's website previously, just doing it the easy way this time :)

<Jhuri> ah ok, sorry for interfe rin

<ericb> yeah, debian ftw :)

<maxamillion> Jhuri: no no, input is good... i was just trying to fill you in :)

<maxamillion> ericb: amen ...

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<JKnife> o.O

* maxamillion is a long time debian user and uses xubuntu because its the best of the debian world for the desktop

<maxamillion> ? what was that about?

* JKnife has no clue

<ericb> lol

<maxamillion> well it looked like he removed a block/ban from someone, just don't know who or why

<JKnife> ohhh.. i bet one is Jesters

<JKnife> =\ not sure about the other...

<maxamillion> ah, rgr

<ericb> when i installed the nvidia drivers from a binary, it came with a nice gui for changing settings and what not... does that come with the deb package?

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Yup.

<ericb> hmmm, but i dont see it :(

<JKnife> ok.. gotta go to this thing i do not wanna goto

<cellofellow> It should show up in Applications -> Systen

<cellofellow> System*

<ericb> it's not there

<ericb> so far ive installed nvidia-glx and that's it

<maxamillion> ericb: yeah ... forget what its called, something like nvidia-config

<PuMpErNiCkEl> Run 'nvidia-settings' and you should see it.

<maxamillion> yeah, that's it

<ericb> it's strange, i see nvidia-settings in synaptic, i select to install it, and then it wants to remove nvidia-glx...

<Jhuri> buahaha

<maxamillion> ericb: it should have installed with nvidia-glx

<ericb> apparently it wasn't a dependency

<Jhuri> they are not a dependancy

<PuMpErNiCkEl> They used to be packaged separately - the -settings package is a transitional package now.

<maxamillion> ericb: no, not dependancy ... just comes with ... like when you install scandisk, photorec comes with ...

<Jhuri> JKnife, do u listen to music on your k6?

<cellofellow> :? No WINDOWS here

<cellofellow> !windows

<ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents

<ericb> ok, i guess i have nvidia-settings, but it doesn't have much of anything

<Jhuri> buahha

<maxamillion> ericb: yeah, i never used it ... they claim the next version is supposed to have more options

<ericb> =/

<ericb> the gui settings from the binary had everything

<ericb> resolutions, brightness/contrast, etc

<maxamillion> ericb: oh, you must have gotten the 9xxx stuffs ... yeah, those will be in the binary package in feisty, they just came out on the nvidia site

<ericb> im assuming feisty is the next *ubuntu release?

<maxamillion> ericb: yes, sorry i didn't clarify

<ericb> no worries :)

<ericb> i could tell by the cheesy name...

<ericb> :P

<maxamillion> lol

<ericb> yeah, this is why i prefer getting stuff straight from the source

<maxamillion> ericb: yeah .. full name is feisty fawn

<ericb> the newest/best

<maxamillion> ericb: you must have been a debian sid user?

<ericb> nope

<maxamillion> oh ...

<maxamillion> testing?

<ericb> i'm not even too sure what that means

<ericb> sid?

<cellofellow> I get errors that I think have to do with fonts when using wvPDF.

<cellofellow> what am I supposed to do?

<cellofellow> ! LaTeX Error: File `times.sty' not found.

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LaTeX Error: File `times.sty' not found. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<cellofellow> oops

<maxamillion> ericb: ermmm.... just a moment

<ericb> !nvidia

<ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto

<slow-motion> n8

<cellofellow> TheSheep: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ any ideas?

<maxamillion> ericb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Development_versions

<quad3d> !ipod

<ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto

<TheSheep> cellofellow: no, maybe try installing some additional latex packages

<maxamillion> !gtkpod

<ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB

<ericb> oh, i suppose i'm a debian sid user if i prefer going to nvidia.com as opposed to using apt-get/synaptic

<cellofellow> ok

<ericb> but after this nvidia mess, i think i'm going to change my ways :)

<maxamillion> ericb: no, very different ... but i guess in a large generalization it will work

<ericb> debian sid = alpha, beta, etc versions?

<Jhuri> despite my new kernel, I still have video playback issues, like freezing, sound unsynchronized with the picture, etc

<maxamillion> ericb: you could call it that ... debian sid is heavy development (probably alpha and early beta), testing is heavy testing (generally late beta because it has to undergo some testing to make it to the testing branch), and then stable .... stable is rock solid

<maxamillion> Jhuri: install vlc ... might help, i used to have issues with certain players too

<maxamillion> !vlc

<ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs

<maxamillion> ericb: but debian is the mother distro, ubuntu the child

<Jhuri> vlc particularly, xfmedia with xine engine works alot better

<maxamillion> oh ... hrmm

<maxamillion> i dunno then

<Jhuri> only with some media

<ericb> maxamillion: i think i see the light...

<Jhuri> could it be that my machine is not able to handle it

<Jhuri> a 400mhz k6II 320ram

<maxamillion> ericb: :)

<cellofellow> MPlayer FTW!

<maxamillion> ericb: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship

<ericb> maxamillion: i tried Fedora Core 6 last night... it's terrible

<maxamillion> ericb: yes, yes it is

* cellofellow has similar stats to Jhuri, uses Mplayer

<ericb> maxamillion: it is so laggy, clunky, slow, etc.

<ericb> maxamillion: updating took forever

<ericb> maxamillion: package management sucks

<Jhuri> cellofellow: got it to, the one optimized for my platform, still freezy

<Jhuri> cellofellow: do u use windows codecs

<cellofellow> What video output plugin?

<cellofellow> Yes.

<cellofellow> Do they not work on K6?

<Jhuri> they do

<Jhuri> slow but do

<Jhuri> xv

<maxamillion> ericb: yeah, FC is cool like that

<Jhuri> which one are u using?

<Jhuri> do u play divx compressed stuff?

<cellofellow> I can't remember which one actually worked, but I had to change my default output plugin and use frame dropping to get decent speed out of Mplayer, especially with .mov

<cellofellow> I don't think I do, sorry. Maybe uncompress them.

<quad3d> i think 6.10 have issues; like fc6

<cellofellow> 6.10 does have issues, that's why 6.06 is still there.

<Jhuri> vlc crashes when I try to decompress with it

<ericb> brb restart

<Jhuri> frame dropping sux hard

<cellofellow> there might be an mplayer command line thing you can do to uncompress those files.

<cellofellow> looks ok to me.

<Jhuri> I get a slide show

<ericb> !nvidia

<ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto

<Jhuri> does mplayer have a preference on linux codecs before windows ones?

<cellofellow> No idea.

<cellofellow> What's the easiest way to install M$ fonts?

* cellofellow just can't seem to get along without them.

<cellofellow> !fonts

<ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer

<Jhuri> there is a ttf font package in the repo as far as I know

<cellofellow> I found it, but it doesn't actually include the fonts I think it just makes them easy to install from somewhere else.

<Jhuri> it downloads them for u, as far as i remember

<cellofellow> ok

<ericb> ok, so it appears that xorg.conf acknowledges my nvidia drivers, but I now have to manually enter in what resolutions i want?

<maxamillion> TheSheep: ping