| <lophyte> hey all | |
| <Burgundavia> hey lophyte | |
| <lophyte> hey | |
| <lophyte> whats up? | |
| <Burgundavia> not much | |
| <lophyte> I think ubuntu-ca meetings should be monthly :) | |
| <somerville32> ) | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <lophyte> I think monthly canadian meetings might foster/encourage more organized municipal teams | |
| <lophyte> and once we have a handful of municipal teams in various cities across the country, we can organize nation-wide events and efforts | |
| * somerville32 nods. | |
| <Burgundavia> yes, that | |
| <somerville32> I'd love to get stuff started here in New Brunswick. | |
| <lophyte> somerville32: its not as difficult as it may seem :) | |
| <Burgundavia> that would rock | |
| <lophyte> "if you build it, they will come" usually stands true.. | |
| <Burgundavia> indeed | |
| <lophyte> its really just a matter of picking a date, time, location, and posting a meeting notice up to everywhere you can think of | |
| <lophyte> the ubuntu-ca list.. your local LUG, colleges and universities.. | |
| <Burgundavia> we need an "ubuntu-ca poster" for people to us | |
| <somerville32> There is a FLOSS group here | |
| <Burgundavia> hook in with them | |
| <lophyte> indeed | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <Phoenix7477> meeting in about 15 mins? | |
| <Burgundavia> yep | |
| <Phoenix7477> k | |
| <somerville32> Meeting in 4 mins! :DD | |
| <bhearsum> there's a meeting tonight? | |
| <Burgundavia> yep, in a few minutes | |
| <bhearsum> damn | |
| <Burgundavia> lophyte, rexbron, tonyyarusso: ping | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: present | |
| <Burgundavia> excellent | |
| <Burgundavia> everybody should be in -meeting in a few minutes | |
| * tonyyarusso already is | |
| * Madpilot will be shortly | |
| <Madpilot> time? | |
| <Burgundavia> indeed | |
| <Burgundavia> I am going to wait a minute or two for lophyte | |
| <tonyyarusso> Hehe, ping attack on lophyte ! | |
| <Burgundavia> bhearsum: please join us in -meeting | |
| <somerville32> Can I ping everyone? haha | |
| <bhearsum> oh, i thought this was a meeting at the linux caffe | |
| <Madpilot> ryanakca, you around? | |
| <tonyyarusso> bhearsum: nope, just online | |
| <bhearsum> cool | |
| <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu's beating me...lol | |
| <tonyyarusso> rexbron: #ubuntu-meeting | |
| <Burgundavia> wow, 34 users | |
| <Burgundavia> we are doing well | |
| <somerville32> Weee, that was fun :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> So lophylap, care to bring me up to speed on what's happened in Toronto re:Ojibwe? | |
| <Burgundavia> remember, our goal is: More members than -au! :) | |
| <kylevan> heheh | |
| <somerville32> hehe | |
| <somerville32> We could always get chanserv to join ;] | |
| <Burgundavia> anybody that wants to talk about those handouts: #ubuntu-marketing | |
| <kylevan> Burgundavia, anyway, I was hoping to find out about getting some "official" material for advocacy | |
| <kylevan> I can "rent" a table from the student society to sit at | |
| <kylevan> high-traffic area, "lefty" campus | |
| <somerville32> Burgundavia: Can I get write access to the website? And are we using a CMS yet? | |
| <Burgundavia> no cms | |
| <Burgundavia> plain old apache2 | |
| <Burgundavia> somerville32: are you a MOTU yet? | |
| <dennister> Burgundavia: u wanted to chat somewhere about marketing? | |
| <somerville32> Burgundavia, Not yet. Why? | |
| <Burgundavia> anybody that wants to talk about those handouts: #ubuntu-marketing | |
| <Burgundavia> somerville32: just wondering | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <stryderjzw> kylevan: I'm at UBC.... perhaps we can get some bigger joint event sometime | |
| <Burgundavia> if you run something on a weekend, I can drag over myself | |
| <kylevan> that'd be cool | |
| <somerville32> Burgundavia, Are we going to look at a CMS? It would make things easier to maintain. | |
| <Burgundavia> we currently have 3 pages | |
| <Burgundavia> there is nothing to maintain | |
| <somerville32> I'd like to expand <g> | |
| <Madpilot> somerville32, find us a decent non-PHP CMS, and we'll consider it :) | |
| <Madpilot> In the meantime, there's the wiki | |
| <somerville32> Why non-PHP CMS? | |
| <Madpilot> security | |
| <Burgundavia> code has vulns | |
| <Burgundavia> I don't want to create a spam relay | |
| <somerville32> lol | |
| <somerville32> Oh yeah, I remember now | |
| <Burgundavia> nobody has convinced me that we need a cms | |
| <somerville32> If Canonical's Sysadmins feel that a PHP CMS is fine, I think we can trust their expertise. | |
| <Burgundavia> only the loco team servers have php | |
| <Madpilot> most of Canonical's stuff is Python | |
| <somerville32> fridge.ubuntu.com is on the loco team server? | |
| <Burgundavia> ubuntu.com and canonical.com are python, moin-based | |
| <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: come to check us out? | |
| <somerville32> Ugh oh | |
| <somerville32> hehe | |
| <kylevan> I'm having like, one conversation over two channels right now somehow... | |
| <Burgundavia> people, this is elkbuntu, head of -au | |
| <elkbuntu> ha. only 4 less than me :Þ | |
| * somerville32 hugs elkbuntu. | |
| <elkbuntu> now 3 less | |
| <somerville32> You guys have chanserv in there too | |
| <somerville32> Burgundavia: Can we just use php snippet or is the PHP interpreter not even installed? | |
| <Burgundavia> no php installed | |
| <kylevan> :S | |
| <kylevan> stryderjzw, I'm just wondering how we could go about that? | |
| <somerville32> Burgundavia, Can we install the python interpreter then? <g> | |
| <Burgundavia> what exactly do you need to do? | |
| <Burgundavia> provide me a use case | |
| <somerville32> Well, we could have a list of members or something on the website pulled from launchpad with their e-mail addresses or something | |
| <somerville32> I'm just thinking of ways to improve communication and collaboration | |
| <Madpilot> somerville32, we've already got a mailing list | |
| <somerville32> Dynamism is important part of any website :] | |
| <somerville32> We could maybe have some sort of news script? | |
| <Burgundavia> interesting idea | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <Burgundavia> mock something up for me | |
| <somerville32> which idea? | |
| <Burgundavia> your news script thingy | |
| <somerville32> PHP or Python? | |
| <Burgundavia> either, prefer the latter | |
| <somerville32> Well, I alrighty know of a small but powerful PHP news script | |
| <Madpilot> an RSS feed would be nice, it's the only really good reason to install a CMS I can see - easy RSS | |
| <somerville32> http://newsphp.sourceforge.net/ | |
| <tonyyarusso> I'd like an RSS feed. | |
| <rexbron> for the news on the site | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Honestly though, with the volume that site has, you could do it by hand. | |
| <rexbron> or like an Ubuntu-ca planet? | |
| <stryderjzw> django's a great framework to get something quick going for python | |
| <Burgundavia> stryderjzw: my requirements are thus: packaged and in ubuntu | |
| <somerville32> Here is the feature list for PHPNews: http://newsphp.sourceforge.net/features.php | |
| <Burgundavia> preferably in main | |
| <tonyyarusso> If you're interested in a Canadian Planet, I just started tinkering with planet just for my personal blog subscriptions, and would be willing to help administer such I think. | |
| <stryderjzw> Burgundavia: I'm confused.... what has to be packaged and in ubuntu? | |
| <Madpilot> stryderjzw, the stuff we use on the ubuntu.ca server | |
| <Burgundavia> indeed | |
| <somerville32> So, how does PHPNews look? | |
| <somerville32> It is mature | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Burgundavia: Do you have any interest in a planet at this time? | |
| <somerville32> Functional | |
| <somerville32> and has rss feeds :] | |
| <jamonation> drupal does all that | |
| * somerville32 nods. | |
| <somerville32> IT sure does. | |
| <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: how many bloggers do we have? | |
| <somerville32> I'd love to use Drupal | |
| <jamonation> but? | |
| <somerville32> Burgundavia, I could start blogging, haha | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: I have no idea. I'm one. | |
| <somerville32> jamonation, Burgundavia doesn't want it | |
| <jamonation> oh | |
| <jamonation> ah well | |
| <Madpilot> jamonation, Drupal is also f'ing massive | |
| <Madpilot> it's overkill | |
| <jamonation> for a planet and blogs? no way | |
| <jamonation> http://www.jamonation.com | |
| <rexbron> Burgundavia: +1 | |
| <jamonation> that's drupal | |
| <somerville32> Drupal is actually where light weight | |
| <somerville32> *very | |
| <jamonation> core is quite speedy, it's overkill to add a million modules | |
| * somerville32 nods. | |
| <jamonation> but blogging and aggregation, all in core by default | |
| <somerville32> Yup. | |
| <somerville32> It would be perfect. | |
| * jamonation is done plugging | |
| * jamonation missed most of the metting | |
| <Burgundavia> how many are interesting is starting to blog? | |
| * jamonation is | |
| <tonyyarusso> Probably need to ask the mailing list too - not sure how much representation we have now. | |
| <Madpilot> I'm resisting the idea of starting a blog - I have enough timesinks | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: hehe | |
| <tonyyarusso> As long as it's a "when you feel like it" blog and not a "committed to a post a day" blog you're okay. | |
| * somerville32 is interested. | |
| <Burgundavia> planet is pretty easy to setup | |
| <somerville32> Just use Drupal ;] | |
| <Burgundavia> right | |
| <Burgundavia> drupal has a host of security issues | |
| <somerville32> Drupal 5? | |
| <Burgundavia> planet has had none | |
| <somerville32> Oh | |
| <somerville32> has | |
| <somerville32> Linux has had security issues | |
| <jamonation> what host of security issues? | |
| <Burgundavia> true, but those are in main | |
| <Burgundavia> drupal I would need to maintain myself, or by somebody who has access to the server | |
| <Madpilot> ubotu, info drupal | |
| <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-2 (edgy), package size 478 kB, installed size 1944 kB | |
| <somerville32> Once it is setup | |
| <somerville32> You don't need to maintain it that much | |
| <jamonation> eeew, that version is way out of date | |
| <jamonation> of course it will have issues | |
| <somerville32> Plus, I wouldn't mind maintaining it | |
| <somerville32> I have lots of experience with Drupal | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: The Python version of planet isn't in the repos for released versions (only Ruby), but the deb is in Feisty and installs with no trouble with dependencies from the repos on released versions. (The depends are very broad, so it's nice that way) | |
| <Burgundavia> planet is in feisty | |
| <tonyyarusso> Right | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, ubuntu.ca server is still running Breezy, we're not moving it all the way up to Feisty! | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: No no, what I'm saying is you don't need to. | |
| <Madpilot> Burgundavia, when're you going to dist-upgrade that poor machine, anyway | |
| <Burgundavia> at somepoint | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, ah, sorry, missed your actual point ;) | |
| <tonyyarusso> Just that someone's built an Ubuntu package _for_ inclusion in Feisty, but which runs fine on earlier. | |
| <tonyyarusso> :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> Better than a Debian package I figured. | |
| <dennister> ok, perhaps i won't be bouncing in and out | |
| <dennister> ok, this may not work for me either :( | |
| <dennister> this is frustrating | |
| <Madpilot> dennister, sounds like it's a connection issue, not an IRC client issue | |
| <dennister> yes, but i don't know what to do about it | |
| <dennister> i get timeouts during big app downloads, too | |
| <Madpilot> complain to Rogers | |
| <dennister> u mean they'll actually do something about it? not likely | |
| <dennister> they just tell me my connection is fine and fast...and they only support windows | |
| <dennister> oh...and u'll love this: they only support dhcp, so they'll blame me | |
| <Burgundavia> rogers is lovely | |
| <Burgundavia> I dealt with them when I was in ottawa for a conference this stpring | |
| <dennister> but the only alternative for high speed is bell, which is worse | |
| <Burgundavia> however, keep calling and telling them you use Linux | |
| <tonyyarusso> dennister: Never tell tech support what OS you use. | |
| <Burgundavia> it will eventually penetrate | |
| <tonyyarusso> Clarification: | |
| <dennister> and? ur story Burgundavia? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Before being helped | |
| <Burgundavia> it went badly | |
| <Burgundavia> I got it working on my own | |
| <tonyyarusso> Always mention it after they're helping, so they can't turn you away, but still find out it's out there | |
| <dennister> ok, i know i can tell them about my speed test results, really poor upload, a bit lower than average rogers in download time | |
| <dennister> i guess i should really deal with this network issue before i do anything else...and this means disconnecting my router, and going to dhcp so they won't squawk | |
| <dennister> thing is, in windows the timeouts don't appear...i think this could be a reason why rogers only supports winblows...their inadequacies don't show up as much | |
| <rexbron> dennister: You dont notice time outs when BSOD is on the screen | |
| <dennister> dang...will go offline for a bit to fix connection probs...cya later ppls | |
| <bradley> hi i'm thinking of installing a weblog engine to create a web page... there seems to be a couple to choose from what, would a good engine to use? | |
| <Burgundavia> what are your needs? | |
| <Madpilot> Draft minutes of our meeting just sent to the ML | |
| <Burgundavia> perfect | |
| <dennister> am on hold with isp..."we are experiencing a higher-than-usual volume of calls" :( | |
| <Madpilot> dennister, IOW, it's their end, not your end, that's f'ing up | |
| <dennister> probably...thought i'd have some more statistics ready for them when they answer | |
| <Burgundavia> dennister: that is always played | |
| <dennister> speed tests: 15% worse than average rogers upload; 28% worse than average rogers upload | |
| <bradley> Burgundavia, (if you were asking me) i want something simple to use, open source (which is pretty much taken care of by the repositories) and customizable. | |
| <Burgundavia> repos are bad for web apps | |
| <dennister> but it's these lags and net-splitting in irc that's driving me mad | |
| <bradley> their are a couple: drupal, b2evolution and wordpress... none of them are great? | |
| <Burgundavia> bradley: how many pages? how often are you going to change them? how many editors? | |
| <bradley> Burgundavia, i guess i could use somewhere between 5 and 10 pages, i don't really have a plan to use that many but i am sure it is easy to create new pages. | |
| <Burgundavia> wordpress isn't bad, but don't use the repo version | |
| <bradley> why would i need multiple editors? | |
| <Burgundavia> just wondered | |
| <bradley> i should get it from their page? | |
| <dennister> gotta go offline, they're on line now | |
| <bradley> Burgundavia, should i install apache first? | |
| <Burgundavia> I think wordpress requires mod_php, but I am not certain | |
| <Burgundavia> you should use as much from the repos as much | |
| <Burgundavia> as possible, rather | |
| <bradley> Burgundavia, should it install properly if i just tell it to install wordpress and let it automatically look after the dependancies or should i do it step by step? | |
| <Burgundavia> bradley: install the repo versions of apache and php and then install wordpress on top of that | |
| <tonyyarusso> Hey Madpilot & Burgundavia, have you ever set up a secure web site? I'm trying to make a portion of mine w/SSL and user/pass authentication (on Apache of course) | |
| <Burgundavia> nope | |
| <Madpilot> no | |
| <tonyyarusso> Dang. 'k. Thanks anyway. | |
| * tonyyarusso continues dredging through Apache documentation. | |
| <bradley> Burgundavia, great, thanks. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Buggers said "You should use SSL" in the Caveats section of Digest auth, and didn't bother to link to the page on it. | |
| <Burgundavia> no worries | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, #apache (although that can be a hard channel to actually get help from...) | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I'm guessing I'm better off reading through all the docs first then... | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, well, it's your exciting Saturday night. You choose how to spend it. ;) | |
| <tonyyarusso> true | |
| <tonyyarusso> Well, let's give it a whirl | |
| <dennister> i want to move...get a different isp...Toronto Hydro is going to become a high-speed player | |
| * kylevan grumbles something nasty about telus | |
| <ryanakca> Madpilot: I'm here now... | |
| <ryanakca> s/Madpilot/whoeverpingedme: | |
| <BluesKaj> Howdy | |
| *** mcmahonm is now known as mcmahonm[A] | |
| <lophyte> morning all | |
| <Simon80> I hate apt on the command line, I don't have any idea how to force a version | |
| <johanbr> I don't remember exactly either, but google for "apt pinning". | |
| <Simon80> oh boy | |
| <Simon80> I'm being stubborn about that | |
| <Simon80> cause that involves editing config file | |
| <Simon80> s | |
| <Simon80> and you definitely don't have to with Synaptic | |
| <johanbr> If you don't like command-line apt, why are you using it? | |
| <Simon80> to learn it | |
| <johanbr> Actually, now I vaguely remember that you can do "apt-get install packagename/edgy" to get the edgy version of the package. | |
| <Simon80> not enough | |
| <Simon80> lol @ http://www.ousterhout.net/funny/computers_down.jpg | |
| *** somerville32 is now known as jenda | |
| *** jenda is now known as somerville32 | |
| <dennister> hi somerville32 | |
| <somerville32> Hi | |
| <dennister> quiet as usual in here? | |
| <somerville32> Well, I wouldn't say quiet is always the usual ;] | |
| <dennister> heheh, ok...i'm quiet then...in a mood | |
| <somerville32> ;] | |
| <dennister> djp had a great idea for a ubuntu promotion, that was good | |
| * somerville32 nods | |
| <dennister> tell me: i just registered my nicks and all, am I clocked now? | |
| <somerville32> No | |
| <somerville32> You need to become a member to get a ubuntu clock | |
| <dennister> figures...not sure if I want to go through all that hassle...but then again, i feel like I'm being pressured into it to keep my privacy...i want to help, but i feel pretty strongly that my privacy is being compromised by the mailing list | |
| <dennister> <-----prefers not to get recognitions | |
| <dennister> test lag | |
| <somerville32> :/ | |
| <somerville32> Thats crazy | |
| <somerville32> Why is privacy such as concern for you? | |
| <somerville32> (If I may ask, haha) | |
| <dennister> various reasons...too many to list them all | |
| <somerville32> Watched too many movies? | |
| <dennister> one: i'm a female, and privacy and security is always more of a concern to women | |
| <dennister> it's one of the reasons why I have male nicks... | |
| <dennister> another: i get embarassed when i get honours...i never attended one of my graduation ceremonies | |
| <somerville32> hehe | |
| <somerville32> What ever floats your boat, I guess :] | |
| <dennister> another: i hate spam and invasions of my inbox | |
| <somerville32> Get gmail | |
| <somerville32> I don't have a spam issue and my e-mail address is very public | |
| <dennister> antoher...i think it's a disincentive for volunteerism and geting more users, the exact opposite of what we want to achieve | |
| <dennister> gmail is giving another corporation my data and identity | |
| <somerville32> Thats the kind of world we live in, unfortunately | |
| <dennister> well i have choices about who to give my time and information to; and i'm now unsubscribed | |
| <dennister> i gotta go...my son's rather upset here...ttyl | |
| * somerville32 waves slowly in confusion. | |
| <rexbron> elkbuntu: Are you Canadian, or just chilling? | |
| <Burgundavia> rexbron: elkbuntu leads -au | |
| <rexbron> cool | |
| <dennister> teenage angst...thank god i'm not there anymore | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <johanbr> So elkbuntu is John Howard. Wow. :) | |
| <Burgundavia> heh | |
| <dennister> John Howard? THE John Howard? | |
| <dennister> no, of course not | |
| <dennister> Hey BluesKaj...r you having probs with staying connected like me? | |
| <BluesKaj> no dennister , I'm trying to defeat crash probs with adept with the 3 finger salute | |
| <dennister> ahhh...it seems rogers has been fulfilling {sic} my level 5 contract with level 3 service for some time now :( | |
| <BluesKaj> updated to flashplayer 9 (big mistake in my case ..dunno why) , and now i'm have probs removing it so i can revert to vers 7 , which worked before | |
| <dennister> have u tried a purge? | |
| <BluesKaj> my cmd line knowledge is rather limited so I was using adept ...and it froze at 11% uninstall | |
| <BluesKaj> hmmm , rogers cellular service is available here but no internet | |
| <dennister> ok, in a terminal, type: sudo dpkg remove --purge flashplayer | |
| <dennister> oops! | |
| <dennister> sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplayer | |
| <BluesKaj> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable | |
| <dennister> count yourself lucky in terms of rogers internet not being available | |
| <BluesKaj> dennister, adept is frozen ... | |
| <dennister> have you got adept or synaptic open? have you deleted it from apt's cache? | |
| <BluesKaj> uhmm no ...how is that done ? | |
| <dennister> killall adept | |
| <dennister> i'm trying to remember...not in /etc/apt... | |
| <BluesKaj> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a | |
| <BluesKaj> i found that in the history | |
| <BluesKaj> it seemed to work | |
| <dennister> yes, that's a good one too...the cache i was talking about is in /var/cache/apt | |
| <dennister> it seems one of my packages i tried to install was in that directory's "partial" directory | |
| <BluesKaj> still have flashplayer tho . the purge comnd din't do it | |
| <dennister> and the killall adept isn't un-freezing it? | |
| <BluesKaj> I think i screwed things up by trying moxilla ...it crashed X , so i decided to remove it . Since then it's amess | |
| <BluesKaj> mozilla | |
| <BluesKaj> yeah it unfroze it thx | |
| <dennister> hmmm and i'm not much help here either, sorry, too upset | |
| <BluesKaj> why would rogers downsize yer service ? | |
| <dennister> they didn't do it intentionally, and have put in a work ticket to repair this problem (the one they're admitting to now, anyway)...it just happened and unless you complain... | |
| <BluesKaj> right | |
| <dennister> most people on windows wouldn't be able to spot it | |
| <dennister> but theyre still denying any packet loss | |
| <BluesKaj> I'm using Sympatico UHS ,. Seems ok so far...they don't tell us when they're going down for repairs etc , tho | |
| <dennister> i want to move to get rid of rogers, but I'm afraid most other ISP's won't be much better...bell is worse than rogers for customer service | |
| <shortleg> shaw is the worst of them all | |
| <dennister> hi shortleg :) | |
| <shortleg> hello | |
| <BluesKaj> hey shortleg | |
| <shortleg> how's it going ? | |
| <dennister> antoher rogers customer | |
| <shortleg> yeah lol, just moved back to ontario from bc | |
| <dennister> not good here...real soap opera i'm afraid, for my son | |
| *** mcmahonm is now known as mcmahonm[A] | |
| <dennister> oh yes? and what do u do shortleg? | |
| <shortleg> nothing right now, getting ready to start school | |
| <shortleg> in january | |
| <dennister> ahhh...our IT/web manager is moving back to BC, in other direction from u | |
| <shortleg> where abouts will he be ? | |
| <dennister> u just twigged me to remember that little recruiting project of mine...probably vancouver, he has family there | |
| <dennister> uoT, York, Ryerson? | |
| <shortleg> U of W | |
| <shortleg> university of waterloo | |
| <dennister> ty...could have been windsor :) | |
| <BluesKaj> engineerz | |
| <BluesKaj> son is studying in windsor | |
| <dennister> i used to heahunt the waterloo engineers | |
| <dennister> now i just volunteer...charities | |
| <shortleg> so, how has ubuntu progressed ? last time i used it hoary had just come out | |
| <dennister> well i love edgy...it made the ivtvdrivers a snap to install | |
| <shortleg> how's ati driver support ? | |
| <shortleg> always had to fight with those | |
| <dennister> this noob was able to completely install mythtv...until i found out my tuner's IR blaster wouldn't transmit, so I should receive my trade-in in a day or two | |
| <dennister> ati i don't know much about, nvidia here | |
| <dennister> all i know is that i hate ati with a passion (lousy company ethics and very poor liinux support), even though i did get suckered into buy one of their tuners | |
| <BluesKaj> mythtv setup guide is a mystery to me ...installing was fine ...the setup guide sucks | |
| <shortleg> they were quite good back in the day | |
| <dennister> it was made by powercolour, but with ati chip and a pciex1 interface...don't think i'll ever get it working with linux | |
| <shortleg> the 9500 was a treat with omega drivers | |
| <BluesKaj> yup dennister ...same here TV Wonder pro | |
| <dennister> personally i'm glad amd bought them...maybe they'll get some better corporate ethics in regards to privacy and the like | |
| <BluesKaj> well, still can't get rids of the flashplayer ...error message; run dpkg --configure -a..so i do and the damn thing is still there | |
| <dennister> they needed some real competition, were getting arrogant and too big for their britches...just like intel, ty to nvidia | |
| <BluesKaj> ATI lost alot of customers after AMD bought them due to the Intel contracts they had | |
| <dennister> i'm afraid you need some better help than i could provide, BluesKaj | |
| <dennister> good, i'm glad they lost customers | |
| <dennister> i feel almost as negative to ati as i do to ms, lol | |
| <BluesKaj> If had known I would have boght an Nvidia card | |
| <dennister> i like the underdogs :) | |
| <BluesKaj> former fedora user ? | |
| <dennister> I'm afraid i need to have a nap...worrying that my kid is going to get into a fight and feel worse...want the time to go by faster | |
| <dennister> he's suicidially depressed as it is :( | |
| <dennister> like i said...soap opera city here...later ppls | |
| <bradley_> is google open source? and if not is there an open source alternative? | |
| <somerville32> Google is a company. | |
| <bradley_> does google as a company use and support open source software and if it does not is their an alternate company that does? | |
| <lophyte> yes they do | |
| <lophyte> Google organizes and sponsors the Summer of Code program, where they match up university students with open source projects | |
| <lophyte> and I've heard rumours that they run Ubuntu.. but that may or may not just be a rumour :) | |
| <bradley_> i've been trying to find somewhere on their site where it says open source but i can't find anything. | |
| <lophyte> none of their software is open source, though | |
| <bradley_> i guess i could google it :) | |
| <bradley_> that's weird, they support it but don't use it. (except for maybe ubuntu) | |
| <somerville32> lophyte, Not true | |
| <somerville32> Google has open sourced tons of their stuff | |
| <somerville32> look at code.google.com | |
| <somerville32> And they do run Ubuntu for sure | |
| <lophyte> ah | |
| <lophyte> I apologize then :) | |
| <somerville32> :) | |
| <bradley_> somerville32, how do you know that they use 'ubuntu for sure'? | |
| <somerville32> Public knowledge | |
| <somerville32> They say they do | |
| <BluesKaj> well i hope they get google earth working with ATI cards in edgy soon ...the GUI refreshes and flickers 3 times/sec, very annoying | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <bradley_> i found some stuff about goobuntu happening, or not happening but nothing about it using ubuntu or open source. | |
| <BluesKaj> goobuntu ? | |
| <bradley_> it is rumoured to be a google-ubuntu os. | |
| <bradley_> some sites say it is definitely happening some say it is definitely not. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Ruh roh. Looks like some folks are getting antsy about stickers (see ML) ;) | |
| <tonyyarusso> I'm also very confused by Cathy's stuff about privacy. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Ubuntu's not the only thing that involves using an e-mail address online, and if you don't want to be on a ML, don't. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Does anyone else see where she's coming from more? | |
| <lophyte> which stuff? | |
| <tonyyarusso> lophyte: The "Volunteer Promotion, Organization, Resources & Communication" post, bottom third or so. | |
| <lophyte> oh | |
| <lophyte> right... I don't get it. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Hmm | |
| <tonyyarusso> The nick for them was 'dennister' right? | |
| <lophyte> yup | |
| <tonyyarusso> 'k | |
| <lophyte> for her :) | |
| * tonyyarusso has a dislike for the terms "him" and "her" unless absolutely necessary | |
| <tonyyarusso> Stupid language | |
| <somerville32> She could create an e-mail address just for ubuntu | |
| <tonyyarusso> That's true. Not hard to do these days | |
| <lophyte> a lot of people do | |
| <lophyte> or just use gmail. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Additionally, wrt spam, membership won't do a darn thing about that. | |
| <lophyte> exactly | |
| <tonyyarusso> @ubuntu addresses just forward to your regular accout anyway | |
| <lophyte> yup | |
| <johanbr> As far as privacy reasons go, being on an Ubuntu mailing list would be the least of my worries. | |
| <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: I see | |
| <BluesKaj> the linux caffe guys don't exactly layout their rules for asking a Q until after asking one , what gives? ...just looks to me like some "in group" thing going on there | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: what tool do you use to connect to a wireless network in gnome | |
| <rexbron> seft36yu | |
| <rexbron> lol the cat jumped on the keyboard | |
| * SpacePuppy uses wlanassistant | |
| <rexbron> the issue is that the box is offline | |
| <rexbron> and runs dapper | |
| * ryanakca wonders if his stickers got lost in Canada Post... |
