| <Davo_Dinkum> I don't get it: http://xkcd.com/c18.html Is tin posionous? | |
| <purserj> any metal is the right amounts | |
| <Phlosten> time for chemistry 101 | |
| <Phlosten> the chemical simble for tin is Sn | |
| <Phlosten> simble? hmm | |
| <Phlosten> symbol | |
| <Phlosten> Sn apple | |
| <cps> or is it supposed to be an adam and eve reference? | |
| <Phlosten> boom boom ching! | |
| <elkbuntu> purserj, especially those ones in concentrations shaped like a bullet ;) | |
| <purserj> elkbuntu: yup | |
| <yama> you need those to kill the pseudo-warewolves | |
| <yama> i.e. the warewolf wannabes who are too cheap to waste silver on | |
| <elkbuntu> hehe | |
| <yama> I could have sworn that there was some mythical creature that has tin as a weakness, but I can't remember what | |
| <lucychili> lots are iffy about iron | |
| <Hit3k> where the hell did i put my freaking ubuntu CD | |
| <cps> CD-ROM dive perhaps? | |
| <Hit3k> nah | |
| <Hit3k> looked there | |
| <Hit3k> i took it out last night to resize some partitions | |
| <purserj> elkbuntu: whats the smoke situation down your way? | |
| <elkbuntu> purserj, i can see blue out my window | |
| <elkbuntu> nothing like it was on thursday | |
| <siccness> This weather is a joke | |
| <siccness> It's 43 degrees | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I get the GNOME weather applet to use a radar map from the BoM? | |
| <cps> you will have to find the URL of the radar map for your location | |
| *** jhawtin_ is now known as lucychili | |
| <cps> http://mirror.bom.gov.au/radar/ | |
| <cps> this is a better page: http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/ | |
| <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: you still have more users than me :( | |
| <purserj> elkbuntu: you been swinging your channel user list around again? | |
| <elkbuntu> hehe... no, he still comes in to pout occasionally | |
| <purserj> well we won't tell him that half of us use gentoo ;) | |
| *** _greenie__ is now known as _greenie | |
| <rastilin> Not Sabayon? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -> "Total number of release-critical bugs: 666" | |
| <hysterio> Kamping_Kaiser: are you suggesting that with the release of etch will come the rapture? | |
| * hysterio gets his heretic burning hat on | |
| * GrantG gives beryl 0.1.3 a whirl | |
| <GrantG> very nice | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hysterio, i just thought it was 'a bit' funny | |
| <hysterio> :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: ping? | |
| <siccness> Rick Kelly won | |
| <siccness> Craig Lowndes is a useless whining idiot | |
| <rastilin> Won what? | |
| <siccness> the V8 Supercars Championship | |
| <rastilin> Ah | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: !!! We are on delay, you inconsiderate B*****d | |
| <siccness> Dude, you already know he was going to win | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Only Lap 17 of 31 | |
| <siccness> Yes | |
| <siccness> Where's Lowndes then? | |
| <Hit3k> talking about V8s eh | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Pits I think.. realigned his front right. | |
| <siccness> and why is he re-aligning? | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: I don't think it was intentional. | |
| <siccness> it wasnt | |
| <siccness> my point is | |
| <siccness> his car is rooted | |
| <siccness> he cant win | |
| <siccness> you should already know kelly was gonna win | |
| <pschulz01> So I'm not on delay then? | |
| <siccness> race is over, you're on delay but kelly couldnt lose | |
| <pschulz01> Ah.. | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: you bastard, why give it away | |
| * siccness sighs | |
| <siccness> I did NOT give it away | |
| <siccness> If you didn't realise Rick had won it by lap 17 than you're not paying much attention to the race are you? :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, people crash. the race sint a forgone conclusino | |
| <siccness> That was never going to happen. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if talking about dead drivers is distasteful or if their fare game yet... however. bbl | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: i am watching the race still, and as far as i could have known rick could have crashed | |
| <siccness> No. | |
| <rob> does anyone know if ship it plan to offer printed feisty cds after it is released? | |
| <cps> is feisty a LTS release? | |
| <rastilin> I don't think so. | |
| *** merlin-linux is now known as Xmas_Penguin | |
| <Hobbsee> rob: no idea. maybe | |
| <pschulz01> The race has now finished. | |
| <rob> thanks, I hope so (really miss the nice printed cds) | |
| <siccness> pschulz01: see, I didn't ruin the exciting part. The last two laps :) | |
| <purserj> *Spoiler Warning: The world will eventually end and watching grown men go round and round yelling "Vroom" at the top of their lungs gets old | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Vroom Vroom | |
| <Hit3k> I wonder if yellow dog linux will be included in the aus release of the PS3 it wasnt in other international releases | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Are you going to LCA? | |
| <siccness> Doubtful unfortunately ;( | |
| <siccness> LCA08 is a definite though. | |
| <pschulz01> Pitty.. You've made my 'beer/pizza' list. | |
| <pschulz01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulSchulz | |
| <Lathiat> woo LCA | |
| <pschulz01> Lathiat: You're going than? | |
| <Lathiat> i am | |
| <pschulz01> Anything in particular? | |
| <Lathiat> talks etC? | |
| <siccness> pschulz01: Heh, yeah, pretty much everyone here makes my 'beer/pizza' list :) | |
| <Lathiat> lca needs to be single stream | |
| <Lathiat> too many talks scheduled together :( | |
| <Lathiat> cant we have a 6 week conference! :) | |
| <pschulz01> Lathiat: That would be awesom! | |
| <pschulz01> Lathiat: Imagine a continious self funding conference :-) | |
| <Lathiat> heh | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> pschulz01: lmao, >>> merlin-linux - all sorts of stuff, but mainly for some Windows assistance | |
| <pschulz01> I have some ideas that I want to talk to people about.. | |
| <pschulz01> . as well as catch up with Ubuntu/Debian folk. | |
| <purserj> Lathiat: if you want to organise one, be my guest :) | |
| * pschulz01 starts to ponder.. | |
| <siccness> pschulz01: haha, theres a massive argument on WP about the whole race incident | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> whinge pool | |
| <AlexC> what? | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> damn the bourbon and cola going through me | |
| <AlexC> lol | |
| <Phlosten> ah, the power! a 200mmx back in action | |
| <AlexC> i had seven cans of lemonade in four minutes | |
| <AlexC> it hurt | |
| <AlexC> hello Hit3k | |
| <Lathiat> AlexC: try running 100M, skulling a can of coke, adn running back, in a race | |
| <Hit3k> hello AlexC how're you | |
| <Lathiat> we did that at RFLAN once, it ended in mild tears for a few people ;p | |
| <AlexC> i feel sick | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a CF to SD card converter? As in, to use a CF card in an SD card slot? | |
| <Lathiat> i have my doubts | |
| <Lathiat> there are converts *to* CF | |
| <Lathiat> itd be a pretty impractical thing too | |
| <Lathiat> given the size weight of CF compared to SD slots | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I imagined a dongle-style adapter, where the CF card isn't actually in the SD card slot. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Physical restrictions aside, would to be easy to wire up the connections? | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum, depends on the similarity of connections between both | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> how wierd. i'm blistering in patches | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> not all over the burned bits | |
| <cafuego_> acid bath? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> sunburn | |
| <hysterio> cafuego: lol | |
| <hysterio> cafuego: i was trying to dispose of Kamping_Kaiser's body in quick lime but he just wouldnt sink | |
| <hysterio> so I gave up and went back to trying to get mythtv working | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hysterio, what do you take me for? nina reiser? :P | |
| <hysterio> hahaha | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin* | |
| <cafuego_> typical adelaide solution | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe | |
| <hysterio> Kamping_Kaiser: if this doesnt get my filesystem into main, nothing will | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. | |
| <cafuego_> your filesystem? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, reisers fs | |
| <cafuego_> hrm | |
| * hysterio hugs beryl | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser realises he has no ltsp server at home | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> seriously, wtf | |
| <hysterio> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah I had a moment like that recently. Except I was halfway through making coffee, and there was no milk | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bugger :S | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if any of my free computers could run it. perhaps a 450 with no gui | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... i just thought of a problem with network booting my squid proxy | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> drive space to store the cache on :| | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if NFS mounting a directory for rw work would be sane, or if this will be more work then envisiaged | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *-i | |
| <hysterio> "...more work than envisaged..." - yes, but that doesnt mean its not worthwhile | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> absolutely... its evil enough to be interesting. i was just hoping to get it setup this arvo | |
| <hysterio> yeah i had the same thing planned with setting up mythtv... now it will have to wait till after xmas :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm planning to have a network of ~20 comps, all of them netboot but the server. should be interesting if i manage to get the gateway doing what i want | |
| <Hit3k> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54 | |
| <ThePizzaKing> Hit3k: Does that mean that we're all super villains? | |
| <Hit3k> yes, yes it does | |
| <ThePizzaKing> interesting | |
| <Hit3k> I know | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> evening all | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> how are we all after the hot weather yesterday? | |
| <siccness> yesterday? what about today? 42 celcius mate. | |
| <siccness> and I was standing around 60,000 alcoholic holden and ford fans | |
| <cps> it wasn't too hot here | |
| <cps> 42, that's pretty intense | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <siccness> We left Philip Island after the first race | |
| <siccness> 42 celcius in the heat just isn't worth it | |
| <siccness> My old man nearly passed out | |
| <cps> wouldn't blame him | |
| <siccness> and I was about 1 degree off passing out myself :| | |
| <siccness> cps: what's amazing is that the cabin of the v8 supercars were at temperatures of 63 celcius :| | |
| <cps> ouch, you could almost cook a roast in them | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> siccness: we had that weather here yesterday | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> but it was still hot here today | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> think it got to 33C today | |
| <Phlosten> its 33 here now, :/ | |
| <Phlosten> 35.1 was our max, at 6pm | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> :~$ acpi -V | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> Battery 1: charged, 100% | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> Thermal 1: ok, 49.0 degrees C | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> AC Adapter 1: on-line | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> that the cpu temp of my laptop atm | |
| <Phlosten> mine is down to 38 atm | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> i need a cooler pad for my laptop | |
| <Phlosten> handy things | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> yes very | |
| <Phlosten> would extend the life of the lappy a bit | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> this the cooler pad i am after >>> http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Cooler/NBcooling/CL-O0004/cl-o0004.asp | |
| <cps> I win: 57 degrees | |
| * ThePizzaKing tries to get higher | |
| <ThePizzaKing> 63 | |
| <ThePizzaKing> 64 | |
| <ThePizzaKing> 65 | |
| <ThePizzaKing> 66 | |
| <ThePizzaKing> I'd better stop now | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> hehe | |
| <cps> damn | |
| <cps> let me guess, a P4? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> no, PM | |
| <ThePizzaKing> It used to get up to 80 in Windows | |
| <cps> wow, does it always run that hot? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> usually in the high 40s low 50s | |
| <ThePizzaKing> (while idle that is) | |
| <cps> yeah, where as a P4 is just always hot | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> mine doesnt get that hot | |
| <siccness> I can get this old girl to 70 if i wanted to | |
| <siccness> but she's sleepin at 45C | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> i don't know what temp my desktop running at | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> as lm-sensors and the acpi does not work on it to give that info | |
| <cps> I think it should work if you load the right modules | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> but the power led goes red if it to hot tho | |
| <siccness> just run sensors detect | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> siccness: i have done all that | |
| <siccness> what system | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> and it does not detect anything besides eeprom | |
| <cps> I can't remember what they were exactly but I had to do it on my P4 system | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> HP kayak XAs | |
| <dav085> hey guys, anyne here who can help me with a guide im reading for ndiswrapper? | |
| <dav085> its on the documentation for ubuntu im just having a bit of trouble with one of the commands | |
| <siccness> Xmas_Penguin: heh bugger that :| | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> siccness: it a commercial desktop | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> i have 3 HP kayaks, one is a server, one is a desktop and the other is spare parts | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> siccness: they are dual cpu systems | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser kicks dav in the nuts. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *dav085 | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> lol | |
| <quail_linux> i get this error on my desktop | |
| <quail_linux> :~/Desktop$ acpi -V | |
| <quail_linux> No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi"). | |
| <quail_linux> and this is a dapper system | |
| <siccness> It's almost too hot to even type: mpg321 [filename] :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> quail_linux, i'd be amazed if those boxes supported thermal reporting | |
| <quail_linux> Kamping_Kaiser: they do somehow as the front fans kick when they get to hot | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> quail_linux, i'd questoin taht counts as reporting though. (reporting to the OS) | |
| <quail_linux> so there some thermialing sensors in them | |
| <quail_linux> Kamping_Kaiser: yes i agree there | |
| <Phlosten> just thermally controlled fans | |
| <quail_linux> i have never run MS windows on these kayaks and not sure if any thermal software works that way | |
| <quail_linux> Phlosten: there is no thermal sensors on the fans that i can see | |
| <Phlosten> are they powered from the mainboard? | |
| <quail_linux> as i do have a couple thermal fans and they have little thermal sensors attached to them | |
| <quail_linux> yes | |
| <Phlosten> then your mainboard is most likely controlling them | |
| <quail_linux> all three fans in the kayak boxs are powered off the mobo | |
| <Phlosten> more than like a thermistor on board somewhere | |
| <Phlosten> likely | |
| <quail_linux> the cpu fan runs flat chat all the time tho | |
| <Phlosten> so | |
| <quail_linux> Phlosten: yes, but lm-sensors does not detect it tho | |
| <Phlosten> so | |
| <quail_linux> and the same with acpi | |
| <Phlosten> who says it needs to be hooked up so you can read it with lm-sensors | |
| <Phlosten> probably very primative thermal control | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> quail_linux, is there a december svlug? | |
| <Phlosten> air hot = fans on, air not hot, fans off. cpu fan on all the time just to be safe | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> Kamping_Kaiser: i still trying to arrange that one, it hard to book a table at the pub | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Xmas_Penguin, yeh, know what its like | |
| <siccness> start drinkin early and you're guaranteed a table :) | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> siccness: what at the hospital | |
| <siccness> Oh, i thought you meant at the pub? | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> i just shit stiring | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> hehe | |
| <siccness> Ahh, see me and hot weather == no ability to think and/or understand :) | |
| <Phlosten> chugalug | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> i got my laptop down to 44C | |
| * rob gets itunes and his ipod working on ubuntu | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> iTunes? | |
| <rob> yes | |
| * Xmas_Penguin enjoy the beer atm | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> enjoying | |
| <siccness> heheh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: How did your networking test go? | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> i need to run the clippers over my beard and head soon | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> damn beard getting itchy | |
| <AlexC> elkbuntu: can you give me an edgy of feisty cd? | |
| <elkbuntu> i have edgy cds, yes. PM me details | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: I got 85% for the entire year | |
| <siccness> (in networking) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> W000t! Good stuff | |
| <siccness> Thanks mate. | |
| <siccness> I still no nothing about networking though | |
| <siccness> I can barely define "IP". | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> siccness: congratz | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lmao Yeah that'd be right. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Wok star! | |
| <siccness> So I am extremely worried, a piece of paper (diploma) is helpful, but it's essentially useless if I don't know it. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> This is at tafe yeah? | |
| <siccness> Yes. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh I got a good joke: | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What did the Arts student say to the engineering student? | |
| <siccness> "Why am I useless?" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lmao close siccness | |
| <siccness> What then? :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Answer: "Would you like fries with that"? | |
| <siccness> Bahahahaha | |
| <_greenie> hehe its so true :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> My L's test took me 08:57:59. Why couldn't all my VCE tests take that long? LOL | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> That's pretty quick | |
| <siccness> Mine took about 12mins or so | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> You listened to the stoned voice, didn't you? | |
| <siccness> Hell no, I took the headphones off | |
| <siccness> That guy was making me want to smash the monitor | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> rotflol yeah | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I left them on just in case he sounded funny, but he didn't | |
| <siccness> Funnily enough, my Ls test was the first and only test I've ever failed. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> You were probably overconfident. | |
| <siccness> Most likely yeah. | |
| <kevin> whats a good program to rip cds? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> Because you took the headphones off | |
| <siccness> kevin: i like grip | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Also you turned up drunk, which doesn't help. | |
| <siccness> True | |
| <siccness> Someone had to keep the stoned commentator company :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <kevin> ok thanks siccness im gonna try grip | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> stoned dude: If I keep talking like this, how much longer will you take to finish this test? A:15min B:45Min C:I'll never finish it shut the hell up D: I took the headphones off you stoner | |
| <siccness> E: dude, i got the munchies man, maccas run | |
| <ThePizzaKing> hehehe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Dammit why are VCE results available so early? | |
| <siccness> When do you see them? | |
| <siccness> Isn't it like the 13th? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> 7am | |
| <siccness> tomorrow? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No sane VCE student is awake at that hour | |
| <siccness> I was | |
| <siccness> I woke up drunk from the night before | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah tomorrow | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lmao yeah you would. | |
| <siccness> checked it and saw "70.20" and all of a sudden the hangover disappeared | |
| <siccness> I was so f'ing happy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And then you were like "party time!" | |
| <siccness> Actually yes. | |
| <siccness> I ended up at the pub later that day | |
| <kevin> what program is good for cd image emulator? | |
| <siccness> hmm? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Mounting ISO's? | |
| <siccness> kevin: if you're referrring to something like daemon tools for windows | |
| <siccness> then you dont need that shit | |
| <siccness> you just mount the iso | |
| <siccness> using the mount command | |
| <kevin> ahhh ok | |
| <kevin> thanks | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> as in: mount /home/username/filename.iso? | |
| <siccness> mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso | |
| <siccness> (you will need to put sudo infront though) | |
| <ThePizzaKing> plus the directory has to already exist | |
| <siccness> that too | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh yeah you have to tell it *where* to mount it to. Stupid thing. | |
| <kevin> i gotta write this | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why can't it find a place to mount it by itself? | |
| <siccness> eg: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /location/of/your/filename.iso /where/you/wish/to/mount | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: You seem like a smart person* *Note: Statement only applies while you are sober. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I recompile gNewSense for PPC? | |
| <siccness> You don't. :P | |
| <siccness> You wait for someone else to design it for that particular arch | |
| <siccness> and you thank them for it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamp says some guy on the ubuntu wiki will do that in 2 weeks but I can't wait that long. | |
| <siccness> I don't actually know how you go about it, but I can safely say that it'd probably take you longer than 2 weeks to find out how to do it. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL yeah it probably would. | |
| <siccness> and that isn't a personal attack, it'd just about everyone 2 weeks + probbaly. | |
| <kevin> fvck is hot in melb | |
| <siccness> sure is, kevin | |
| *** kevin is now known as SeyToN | |
| <siccness> we as linux geeks usually use "fsck" to say the f-word :) | |
| <SeyToN> lol | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Don't worry, even if it was, I wouldn't be offended. | |
| <ThePizzaKing> then you swear at the terminal and it tries to kill your filesystem | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: yea i know :) | |
| <cafuego_> Melbourne? Only 19°C | |
| <siccness> Dropped down severely | |
| <ThePizzaKing> The risk of thunderstorms overnight with squally winds, then cloudy periods | |
| <cafuego_> ThePizzaKing: if fsck breaks your fs you should stop using reiser ;-) | |
| <siccness> Thunderstorms coming in. | |
| <siccness> Haha | |
| <purserj> ThePizzaKing: yay more lightning strikes | |
| <ThePizzaKing> woooo | |
| <cafuego_> Yup, @ maryborough/castlemaine atm | |
| <ThePizzaKing> well, fsck still complains even without reiser | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I get gnome weather applet to use a BoM radar map? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> I just liked the use of the word squally | |
| <cafuego_> paste in the image url | |
| <cafuego_> http://mirror.bom.gov.au/radar/IDR023.gif | |
| <ThePizzaKing> I have 022.gif | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Into where? The radar map tab? | |
| <cafuego_> yup | |
| <cafuego_> 022 is the 128km innit? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> 256 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah sweet thanks. | |
| <cafuego_> then 023 is prolly 128 :-) | |
| <cafuego_> I cna just see a big blob of yellow with a red center | |
| <cafuego_> And you've seen http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime ? | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: is that rain-front shifting south-easternly? | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: it ought to be | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: if not though, it'll bring rain inland! | |
| <siccness> You know what bugs me, how bakery meat-pies suck | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Then don't buy them. | |
| <siccness> Hmm, that does make sense. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Are you drunk? | |
| <siccness> Nah, this is pretty sober for me :P | |
| <fildo> *gone(dreamin of a special pair of boobz) | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> Dude cracks me up | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser o_0's | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Way too expensive: | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> http://tinyurl.com/yane26 | |
| <SeyToN> siccness: i like grip<--- did u install libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.2.0 first? | |
| <siccness> it's a dependancy, yes. | |
| <siccness> apt takes care of all that shit for ya | |
| <SeyToN> my sources.list couldnt find the package libgnomeui | |
| <siccness> I can't really help you on that, I don't use Ubuntu. | |
| *** merlin-linux is now known as Xmas_Penguin | |
| <cafuego_> libgnomeui-0 | |
| <siccness> Xmas_Penguin: how good is it to finally see Holden come out on top :) | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> yeah :-D | |
| <siccness> Lowndes is a great driver, there's no doubt about it. But boy does he whinge a bit. | |
| <Xmas_Penguin> he a tool | |
| <siccness> He was idiotic enough to try and block on a corner that Kelly could never make a move through anyway | |
| <siccness> Plus, the rules clearly state that no blocking is allowed until the final few remaining laps of a race. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I hope my ENTER is high enough so I can get into tafe, but low enough so I can't get into uni. | |
| <siccness> What TAFE course? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> network engineering or sysadmin | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I dunno really. They sound good. | |
| <siccness> Swinburne no longer do my course. | |
| <siccness> It's not a dual-diploma | |
| <siccness> both network engineering and sys-admin, | |
| <siccness> *. | |
| <siccness> I'd HIGHLY recommend you have a look at it. | |
| <siccness> You won't learn shit for the first 6 months | |
| <siccness> but you do learn a hella of a lot about Linux, Novell and Windows Server administration | |
| <kevin> which tafe? | |
| <kevin> and what course? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> like i care for win server admin | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> RMIT | |
| <kevin> ohh yeah | |
| <siccness> kevin: Swinburne Network Engineering/System Administration Dual-Diploma | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is swinny in the city? | |
| <siccness> There's a few Swinburne TAFE campuses | |
| <kevin> ahh well, no vce here | |
| <siccness> Wantirna, Hawthorn and Lilydale | |
| <siccness> Next year Wantirna is merging with Lilydale for my course | |
| <siccness> because we're both got a group of dumbasses | |
| <siccness> so it was decided that we'd merge to form some giant group of dumbasses | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The smart thing to do would be to put a group of dumbasses in with one bright person, so they all learn from the smart kid. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, no, the smart thing is for the bright person to leave ;) | |
| <cafuego_> you have a point | |
| <kevin> in other words? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: so that means me? :P | |
| <siccness> without me sounding cocky | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, yes ;) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah prob. But you said you know nothing about networking. | |
| <siccness> Again, I don't. | |
| <siccness> But neither do they :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> give us an example of a question that was on the test. | |
| <siccness> ok.. | |
| <siccness> Here's the practical example: "In NetWare, create a group called W1N1. Create a user with 'yourname' and place him within your group. Create a login script for that user to distribute an application via NAL. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> netware login scripts are a mess | |
| <kevin> do you know about nortel networks? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Isn't the whole of netware a mess? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Indeed. | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: not entirely | |
| <siccness> Novell NetWare seems to me to be structured relatively logically. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> nah, its not a mess, its just retro | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> (that was 'most of netware' i was talking about) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> there isnt a lot of /netware/ to structue | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> edirectory is the big bit, and its as logical as you make it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> NLM's are fugly though | |
| <siccness> I personally found Windows 2003 Server more hard to understand than Novell NetWare | |
| <siccness> s/hard/difficult | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i didnt have a lot of exposure to the doze servers, wasnt anythign special from what i experianced though | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> XP with different apps | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and a not-broken-by-default security model | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: a lot of the questions on the theoretical examination were based on NTFS/Share permissions | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh | |
| <siccness> Which is easy to understand; however, can be a little overwhelming during an exam. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, do you remember all 17(?) permissions+speical permissions? | |
| <siccness> Nope | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> phew. neither do i :P | |
| <siccness> Knowing all is pointless. | |
| <siccness> Understanding how they work is useful | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> linux only has 9 thankfully | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and i remember 4 *grin* | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> r/w/x/sticky | |
| <siccness> This is the problem with exams though, a good written examination should be based on the theory behind something | |
| <siccness> not "what argument is used for searching with the rpm utility" | |
| <siccness> stuff like that is shit | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh | |
| <siccness> My Linux teacher usually writes good examinations though | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser takes a knife and cuts a pound of flesh off his body, ala Seven7 | |
| <siccness> :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :} | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se7en wikipedia for the film 'se7en'... you may or may not choose to read it ;) | |
| * kevin Now Playing: Nile - Cast Down the Heretic | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> btw, if the page is anything like the film, 15+ minimum | |
| *** kevin is now known as SeyToN | |
| <siccness> willis? | |
| <siccness> pitt? | |
| <siccness> or am i thinkin 12 monkeys? | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser has nfi what your thinking :) | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. perhaps more then a pound would be better. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser dribbles shit | |
| <siccness> 12 Monkeys = Willis | |
| <siccness> (Bruce Willis) | |
| <siccness> (it's a movie) | |
| <siccness> Se7en == Brad Pitt | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser smiles and nodds | |
| <SeyToN> 7eleven rlz | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ..... | |
| <siccness> 7/11 is shit | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm off. | |
| <siccness> Catchya mate. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> later | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Laters. | |
| <ThePizzaKing> If anyone is interested I got 95.30 as my ENTER score | |
| *** jhawtin_ is now known as lucychili | |
| <pschulz01_> Morning.. what SMTP server are people using? | |
| <pschulz01_> I need to get a machine for forward email to a 'smarthost'. I've used exim with Debian before, which is relatively easy, but I have the feeling that Ubuntu has picked another soerver (postfix?) by default. | |
| <purserj> I use postfix, but don't do the smarthost thing | |
| <bimberi> <-- postfix | |
| <bimberi> pschulz01_: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html | |
| <pschulz01_> bimberi: I just need to forward all email to a central server.. I might just install exim.. | |
| <pschulz01_> .. although I was pointed to 'ssmtp' by adaptr in #ubuntu/ | |
| <pschulz01_> Looks like what I need. | |
| <bimberi> pschulz01_: yes i saw that. looks good, although I'm fairly sure it's only for locally (ie. on the box itself) generated mail | |
| <pschulz01_> bimberi: .. which is what I want :-) | |
| <bimberi> pschulz01_: cool :) better than the sledghammer I pointed you to then :) | |
| <pschulz01_> bimberi: I don't think adaptr understoot my question though.. |
