| <flasher222> how can i check how much ram i have? | |
| <gnomefreak> flasher222: top | |
| <maxamillion> flasher222: sudo aptitude install htop | |
| <maxamillion> flasher222: htop is alot like top, but easier to read | |
| <Qew> yeah, htop is a damn good find | |
| <flasher222> thanks | |
| <flasher222> torp works | |
| <maxamillion> np | |
| * gnomefreak never used it | |
| <maxamillion> !language | Qew | |
| <ubotu> Qew: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <Qew> what? | |
| <maxamillion> gnomefreak: i recommend it | |
| <maxamillion> Qew: d--n | |
| <Qew> ah, you don't like "d*mn". It's not an issue in the UK, so sorry about burning US ears ;) | |
| <gnomefreak> im installing it now to see it | |
| * cellofellow to | |
| <maxamillion> Qew: no, i don't care ... its just about keeping this chan globally family friendly | |
| <Qew> OK, fair enough. It was automatic and meant to say that the app was *very* good | |
| <maxamillion> Qew: lol, i did it yesterday too ... so used to it in casual convo | |
| <maxamillion> Qew: i !languaged myself hoping nobody else would yell at me for it ... i was wrong :P | |
| <Qew> hehe | |
| <Qew> I wouldn't say the other "bad" words, but forgot about "d*mn" :D | |
| <Qew> so "h*ll" is out of the question? ;) | |
| <cellofellow> wow. htop looks like a wacky blend between top, mc, and conky. love it. | |
| <maxamillion> ermm... i dunno, i personally think that one isn't bad because its a place ... but its all about translation and perception so i tend to try to stay on the side of caution and not say it either | |
| <Qew> yeah, htop is a... err... very good app. It's certainly easier on the eye than top and easier to use. | |
| <gnomefreak> it does look nicer than top :) | |
| <cellofellow> yay! I can scroll though my running processes now! | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: i know!!! isn't that awesome!! | |
| <Qew> yeah, and killing them is easier, too | |
| <Qew> you can highlight what you want killed, niced, etc | |
| <cellofellow> what's nice do anyways? | |
| <Qew> search with / | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> cellofellow: It changes a process' priority. | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <cellofellow> so you have something that's hogging CPU you can "nice" it and it will back off for other processes? | |
| <Qew> yes, it'll take a lower priority | |
| <cellofellow> so nice means the kernel yells at the process "be nice! you're not that important" | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Pretty much. | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| * maxamillion just emailed the dev mailing list about having htop added to the default install of feisty | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It is a nice app. | |
| <Qew> good idea, maxamillion. I only discovered that a month ago. I used to use top and other command line things to do the things htop does quickly | |
| <maxamillion> Qew: yeah, i just found it like a week ago when someone (possibly you) mentioned it | |
| <Qew> heh, yeah, I did mention it here a few weeks ago | |
| <cellofellow> I saw it in your screeny max and thought "man, what is that it looks sweet." :) | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: htop :) | |
| <maxamillion> well, with any luck it will be included in the feisty default installation | |
| <maxsoft> nobody wanna enter in my linux to see how to configure wlan ? | |
| <maxsoft> I use hamachi vpn. | |
| <cellofellow> maxsoft: I'd rather use ssh for that sort of thing. | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: just gave you some support on the mailing list. :) | |
| <maxsoft> cellofellow: do you like enter ? :) | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: awesome :) | |
| <cellofellow> enter? | |
| <cellofellow> you can do gui over ssh] | |
| <maxamillion> sure can | |
| <cellofellow> besides, I haven't installed a VPN veiwer yet. :P | |
| <maxsoft> if you install hamachi client it's very easy | |
| <maxamillion> be back in a few | |
| <maxsoft> I can access you in VNC so I can see your step. I know that you are bravo so dont worry about errors. :) | |
| <cellofellow> Hamachi? oh, VPN. I got confused with VNC. | |
| <maxsoft> Hamcahi is used to make up a VPN | |
| <cellofellow> I know, I've tried it. | |
| <maxsoft> VNC it's used to Remote Desktop. | |
| <cellofellow> uh huh. | |
| <maxsoft> ok. window and linux version. | |
| <maxsoft> I dont know linux and I've install and used in 5 minutes | |
| <cellofellow> I think I have it not installed somewhere here in my home dir. | |
| * cellofellow loves kalikiana's search4files. put that in Feisty too? | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: i wouldn't put it as a default application.. | |
| <JKnife> pecan pie FTW! | |
| <czer323> anyone know how to kill a fusesmb session? | |
| <JKnife> ps aux | grep smb | |
| <JKnife> then do a killall | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: what's wrong with search4files | |
| <JKnife> nothing.. | |
| <cellofellow> There is search programs for GNOME and KDE, and search4files uses Thunar very well. Why leave Xubuntu out in the cold? | |
| <JKnife> cause anyone with a brain knows how to use find and slocate XD | |
| <JKnife> i need something like cliffnotes but they need to have an online version of the Da Vinci Code | |
| <AcidBurn> keep getting a error when trying to print in mousepad ... anyone :-/ | |
| <AcidBurn> client error bad request, An error occurred while trying to print the file | |
| <cellofellow> AcidBurn: install a2ps | |
| <AcidBurn> ? | |
| <AcidBurn> checking | |
| * cellofellow doesn't know why it isn't there in the first place. | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: fyi, search4files works with tracker and beagle too. | |
| <JKnife> i know | |
| <cellofellow> so, it's not just for find. | |
| <JKnife> i never said it was.. | |
| <cellofellow> true. I guess you are just Mr. Command Line | |
| <JKnife> CLI FTW! | |
| <AcidBurn> cellowfellow: thanks.. it works, it also fix the print problem in scite too.. | |
| <cellofellow> cool. me and vidd fussed for days trying to figure out why that didn't work. vidd got frustrated and reinstalled his computers at least twice. | |
| <AcidBurn> wow | |
| <cellofellow> he never tried printing from another program, thought it was his whole system not just mousepad. | |
| <AcidBurn> sometime when its running like swiss watch, don't breath,,, | |
| <AcidBurn> now what about volume, it not working on reboot | |
| <cellofellow> :( Is alsa-utils running? | |
| <AcidBurn> how can i check | |
| <cellofellow> I don't know. Applications -> System -> Services doesn't have it in there. | |
| <cellofellow> ps A | grep alsa | |
| <AcidBurn> checking | |
| <AcidBurn> hmm, the ps A | grep alsa ( was not the correct option ) error in syntax | |
| <cellofellow> oops -A | |
| <AcidBurn> saw nothing... | |
| <AcidBurn> that mean it not running.... | |
| <AcidBurn> okay why? | |
| <cellofellow> yeah that meens it's not running. | |
| <AcidBurn> how come | |
| <AcidBurn> =-O | |
| <cellofellow> well, you can try manually starting it with /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start | |
| <cellofellow> sudo ..... | |
| <cellofellow> It may not be set to start at boot. | |
| <AcidBurn> it been working fine... then notice a few times, it did not hear the start up sound | |
| <cellofellow> any other sounds working? | |
| <AcidBurn> nope | |
| <AcidBurn> gaim sounds.. nope | |
| <cellofellow> did you try manually starting it? | |
| <AcidBurn> checking | |
| <kingrayray> hi, how do you install xfce themes (like from gnome-look.org) | |
| <JKnife> kingrayray: e17 croweded your mind? | |
| <kingrayray> lol | |
| <cellofellow> well, first of all try xfce-look.org | |
| <kingrayray> i haven't used e17 in a long, long time | |
| <JKnife> extract them to ~/.themes or click the install button in the theme options.. XD | |
| <barktpolar> Hello | |
| <barktpolar> How much Memory does Xubuntu require for the Live CD? | |
| <kingrayray> lol thanks | |
| <JKnife> kingrayray: np for a old freind XD | |
| <cellofellow> ~128MB | |
| <barktpolar> Cool, I have just enough | |
| <kingrayray> JKnife: i've been on gnome for hte last 9 months or so | |
| <JKnife> o.O i am sorry | |
| <kingrayray> rofl | |
| <kingrayray> yeah i don't know what i was thinking | |
| <kingrayray> i just got used to it i guess rofl | |
| <JKnife> =\ | |
| <JKnife> there are E17 repos for ubuntu on edevelop :) | |
| <kingrayray> yeah i know i have them | |
| <kingrayray> E's installed, i just don't use it | |
| <kingrayray> lol | |
| <JKnife> haha | |
| <AcidBurn> cellowfellow: it would appear had to restart 3 times, before the sound (startup sound) came back.. ODD, maybe a Bug? | |
| <cellofellow> maybe | |
| <cellofellow> what's a good jukebox media player? Like AmaroK? I use XMMS but would like something to organize my music. Perhaps a muxic library program that uses XMMS to play? | |
| <crimsun> bmpx? | |
| <crimsun> exaile? | |
| <cellofellow> I'll check those out. | |
| <cellofellow> can't find those in the repos. | |
| <crimsun> that's correct. | |
| * cellofellow google's then | |
| * JKnife pokes maxamillion | |
| * cellofellow thinks JKnife pokes too much. | |
| <maxamillion> jo | |
| * maxamillion is still coding like a mad man but has a question so is asking in #ada but can't get on irc without stopping by xubuntu | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| * JKnife calls the ops to temp ban Adam XD | |
| <maxamillion> my screen seems so crowded at home .... dual 17" vs. a single 15" is a _big_ difference | |
| <JKnife> haha | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: you called? | |
| <JKnife> o.O | |
| <JKnife> when the crap did that happen? | |
| *** maxamillion sets mode: -o maxamillion | |
| <cellofellow> you poked | |
| * JKnife thought you were still begging for it | |
| * gnomefreak /kb JKnife ;) | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <maxamillion> no no, i use it only when needed | |
| <JKnife> gnomefreak: i know you have ops =\ | |
| <gnomefreak> :) | |
| * gnomefreak too busy atm to do anything | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <JKnife> YAY | |
| * JKnife survives to fight another day | |
| * maxamillion is still waiting for someone to answer his quesiton in #ada so continues googling | |
| * cellofellow is still configuring bmpx | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: better? | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <maxamillion> thanks | |
| * gnomefreak playing with bzr and not having fun i think im done just waiting for post on planet to show up so i can tend to other matters | |
| <maxamillion> i don't think anyone is around | |
| * JKnife looks at this thing called htop | |
| <maxamillion> gnomefreak: where would i find a tutorial on setting up a bzr server? i have done svn before, but i want to get used to bzr because i am starting to use launchpad more | |
| <JKnife> anyone on feisty want a rebuild of sylpheed-claws-gtk2? (this one installs XD ) | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: lol | |
| <JKnife> htop = cli program? | |
| <gnomefreak> i only know how to do it for planet ubuntu | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: htop is awesome! | |
| <cellofellow> you mentioned that on the mailing lists. | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: yes | |
| <gnomefreak> JKnife: yes and its nice | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: its top, but pretty | |
| <JKnife> ohh | |
| * JKnife likes cli apps | |
| * JKnife also loves sylpheed... and hates FireFox/ThunderBird | |
| <cellofellow> max likes his system monitors. first conky, now htop. | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| * JKnife loves conky... | |
| <JKnife> ohhhh... htop is prettie... | |
| <maxamillion> yeah ... i actually prefer htop, conky was cool but its buffer system is kinda fragile | |
| <cellofellow> it flickers | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: that is why it has doublebuffering XD | |
| <cellofellow> still flickers, even though that's on | |
| <JKnife> you ran it in a console and it said that it enabled? | |
| <cellofellow> what's the Boost smart pointer library and where do I get it? | |
| <cellofellow> never mind, it is enabled in the rc file but doesn't work. | |
| <maxamillion> for anyone who is interested, here is a good comparison of how annoying it is to code in ada ... http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Algorithm_implementation/Search/Binary_search | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: =\ i wouldn't see that getting included in xubuntu-desktop.. | |
| * JKnife shrugs | |
| <JKnife> can still try | |
| * maxamillion has been coding in ada for the past week for class | |
| * maxamillion will try hard | |
| <maxamillion> its better than xfce's process manager | |
| <cellofellow> what's ada? sounds like a low-level language. | |
| <JKnife> it is hell... =/ | |
| <JKnife> well | |
| * JKnife has never used it | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: pretty much, it was the DoD's answer to chasing pointers in C | |
| <maxamillion> !language | JKnife | |
| <ubotu> JKnife: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <JKnife> D is a cool language.. | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: i have actually heard of that | |
| * cellofellow thinks maxamillion like higher-level languages. | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: i do not think that is a bad word =\ and until i get a list i might keep slipping up :) | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: i think they each have their own place in the world, but i have been coding in low level for a few years now and i'm tired of it ... high level is just more convenient | |
| <cellofellow> you sure did rant about C in your blog. | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: no language is perfect... | |
| <JKnife> and it is ok to point out bad designs.. | |
| <cellofellow> yeah. I guess so. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: that was out of bordom, C has my respect but 80-90% of C programmers do not because they don't know what they are doing .... and i am included in that percentile that doesn't know what they are doing .... do know C and to know C _well_ are completely different things | |
| * maxamillion does not concider himself a "respecable" C coder ... he is simply average | |
| <JKnife> i like pie! | |
| <cellofellow> I like cake and pie! | |
| <maxamillion> i was told there would be punch and pie | |
| <JKnife> cake blows! unless it is ice cream cake.. | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| * maxamillion codes | |
| <cellofellow> cookies! brownies! BAR COOKIES! | |
| <Gubuntu> monkeys... | |
| <Gubuntu> monkeys.. | |
| <Gubuntu> monkey monkey monkey. | |
| <cellofellow> ape | |
| <Gubuntu> monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey | |
| <cellofellow> ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape | |
| <Gubuntu> human human human.. oh.. wait. | |
| <cellofellow> lol | |
| <cellofellow> cookies! | |
| <maxamillion> computers? | |
| <maxamillion> i'm sitting in a linux chat room and nobody says computers?!#@#@^! | |
| <maxamillion> :P | |
| * maxamillion goes back to his code | |
| <cellofellow> yay! computers! laptops, PC's, macs, supercomputers! | |
| <Gubuntu> Im going to install xubuntu in a monkey brain. | |
| <cellofellow> cool. tell us how well the GIMP works. | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| * maxamillion goes back to his code ... again | |
| <Gubuntu> shoulnt the Skydome be an Image Probe.. and not a panaroma | |
| <Gubuntu> if Beryl AiXGL isnt in Image Probe format.. I suggest it need be.. for seamless spherical maps | |
| <godless> Did somebody spike the punch? | |
| <godless> You guys are wacked. | |
| * godless gets some punch, just in case. | |
| <Gubuntu> lol | |
| *** cellofellow is now known as cellofellow|dinn | |
| *** cellofellow|dinn is now known as cellofellow|eat | |
| <Gubuntu> hmm | |
| <Gubuntu> what image size do skydomes in berl need to be ? | |
| <Gubuntu> nm | |
| <Gubuntu> 2048x2048 | |
| <maxamillion> good to know | |
| <Jester45> hello | |
| <maxamillion> hello | |
| <Jester45> i just got my xubuntu on my faster drive | |
| * maxamillion isn't _really_ here but couldn't pass up an opportunity to be polite | |
| <Jester45> not sure what version of xubuntu it is | |
| <Jester45> o ok | |
| <Jester45> umm | |
| <Jester45> does edgy have xfmedia? | |
| <maxamillion> no | |
| <maxamillion> that's dapper | |
| <Jester45> k | |
| <Jester45> i have drapper still | |
| <Jester45> thats good | |
| <maxamillion> Jester45: do "uname -a" in the command line and tell me your kernel version number | |
| <Jester45> Linux xubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux | |
| <maxamillion> dapper | |
| <Jester45> cool | |
| <maxamillion> lol, the gvim icon looks so unix | |
| <maxamillion> just alt+tab'd and noticed | |
| <Jester45> hi max | |
| <AcidBurn> hey what a excellent notepad app | |
| <Jester45> what is | |
| <AcidBurn> need coffee | |
| <AcidBurn> ok | |
| <AcidBurn> looking for a replacement for xpad | |
| <Jester45> mousepad :) | |
| <AcidBurn> using mousepad...tls | |
| <AcidBurn> tks | |
| <AcidBurn> looking for something that can be add to the menu or panel, then I can scroll down, and select the note... | |
| <AcidBurn> like xpad | |
| <Jester45> hehe | |
| * Jester45 has 64 mb of updates | |
| <Jester45> !xpad | |
| <ubotu> xpad: sticky note application for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.11-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 544 kB | |
| <Jester45> why not use xpad | |
| *** cellofellow|eat is now known as cellofellow | |
| <Jester45> CELLO | |
| <Jester45> buddy | |
| <Jester45> hi | |
| <Jester45> sup | |
| <Jester45> what you doing | |
| <Jester45> i know u there | |
| <cellofellow> just finished dinner. | |
| <Jester45> answer me | |
| <Jester45> o | |
| <Jester45> he is | |
| <Jester45> what you eatr | |
| <cellofellow> trying to work out some parli-pro stuff. | |
| <cellofellow> burritos. | |
| <Jester45> i just reinstalled xubuntu | |
| <Jester45> from cd | |
| <Jester45> its fun...not | |
| <cellofellow> I had to reinstall xubuntu edgy from kubuntu dapper cd this week. | |
| <cellofellow> (lots of upgrades) | |
| <AcidBurn> he cellofellow: | |
| <AcidBurn> got the sound to work | |
| <cellofellow> what was up? | |
| * cellofellow had his speakers turned off. :P | |
| <AcidBurn> just rebooted a few times.. | |
| <AcidBurn> then wamo... | |
| <AcidBurn> sound | |
| <cellofellow> huh | |
| <AcidBurn> must be a bug | |
| <AcidBurn> somewhere | |
| <cellofellow> or a glitch | |
| <AcidBurn> true | |
| <Jester45> or somthing changed | |
| <AcidBurn> now if I can get xpad to stop showing all my notes on startup | |
| <Jester45> thats one think i did like about windows | |
| <AcidBurn> that would be a nice thing... | |
| <cellofellow> totally turn it off and then log out and DO save your session. | |
| <Jester45> got a problem? restart....done | |
| <cellofellow> unless it's a REAL problem. | |
| <Jester45> they system restore :) | |
| * cellofellow never got the (winME) system restore to work. | |
| <cellofellow> it's all a false facade to hide the OS's real problems. | |
| <Jester45> thats what one of my friends do system restore at the slightest mess up | |
| <Jester45> a window doesnt load right and only shows 1/2 of it restore | |
| <Jester45> its so sad | |
| <Jester45> i told him dude just try to fix the problem you will know lots more about your computer | |
| <AcidBurn> cellofellow: anyway to turn on xpad from showing all notes on startup...but yet I want the app to startup | |
| <cellofellow> AcidBurn: dunno then, never used it sounds like an xpad specific thing. | |
| <Jester45> !xpad | |
| <ubotu> xpad: sticky note application for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.11-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 544 kB | |
| <AcidBurn> xubuntu needs a real sticky app | |
| <cellofellow> xubuntu has a sticky notes program included. | |
| <cellofellow> oh | |
| <AcidBurn> ng | |
| <cellofellow> I think xubuntu's is alright, I don't use them much. | |
| <cellofellow> I like Zim, a little mini-wiki. | |
| <AcidBurn> keep allot of todo's | |
| <AcidBurn> a quick notes... | |
| <AcidBurn> sticky would be the way to go. | |
| <cellofellow> whoops. I don't have a torrent client installed. I used ktorrent in my last ubuntu incarnation. I don't want azureas. What's a good client? | |
| <Jester45> ok im going ot make a list of things i have to reinstall while my uppates are curning | |
| <cellofellow> good idea | |
| <Jester45> azureus | |
| * cellofellow is still finding bits and peices he's forgotten. | |
| <cellofellow> k, I'll try azureas | |
| <Jester45> ok swiftfox armoak mplayer | |
| <Jester45> easyubuntu | |
| <AcidBurn> cellofellow: how about a global clipboard app? | |
| <Jester45> cube | |
| <cellofellow> the clipboard panel applet works for me for clipboard history. It's more than ever existed in windows. | |
| <AcidBurn> hmm, | |
| <cellofellow> Jester45: you use amoroK? | |
| <AcidBurn> I notice when copying a selected text, in a window, and closed that app, the text is not copied over.. | |
| <Jester45> cello yes | |
| <AcidBurn> to the new app where I trying to paste it in.. | |
| <Jester45> AcidBurn: i noticed that also | |
| <AcidBurn> is this a bug with xubuntu? | |
| <cellofellow> AcidBurn: do you have the applet running? | |
| <Jester45> i dont | |
| <AcidBurn> how can I check | |
| <AcidBurn> for the applet | |
| <Jester45> cellofellow: why dont u use it | |
| <cellofellow> add it to the panel | |
| <cellofellow> Jester45: cause I want something GTK2. If I can't find anything else I'll just use it. | |
| <cellofellow> for now XMMS works. | |
| <Jester45> cellofellow: what about xfmedia | |
| <Jester45> cellofellow: or mplayer | |
| <cellofellow> mplayer for video all the way | |
| <Jester45> cellofellow: or amorok | |
| <cellofellow> xfmedia, not tried that. | |
| <cellofellow> amoroK does video? | |
| <Jester45> no | |
| <maxamillion> amorok needs to be ported to gtk | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <Jester45> would be nice | |
| <Jester45> little faster | |
| <cellofellow> http://www.linuxedge.org/node/85 | |
| <maxamillion> i just don't like Qt ... it looks like a cartoon puked on my interface ... but that's just my opinion | |
| <Jester45> well amorok looks good | |
| <cellofellow> my first exposition to GTK was The GIMP on windows. I thought it was the strangest thing. | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <Jester45> lol | |
| <maxamillion> yeah .. it would seem strange when out of its element | |
| <cellofellow> I then figured out how to theme GTK and made it with the ugliest theme. Blue window backgrounds with glassy gold buttons. | |
| <cellofellow> very saturated. | |
| <Jester45> .... | |
| <cellofellow> Jester45: you see the exaile link? | |
| <Jester45> nop | |
| <Jester45> dont wanna open ff | |
| <cellofellow> lynx | |
| <Jester45> try to keep this install clean of it | |
| <cellofellow> I see. I still have firefox cause gnash needs it. | |
| <cellofellow> "needs" | |
| <Jester45> force remove it | |
| <Jester45> for fun | |
| <cellofellow> yeah, ok. | |
| <Jester45> i went christmas shopping today | |
| <Jester45> it sucked | |
| <Jester45> spent all my $$$ | |
| <Jester45> did get otu of school for it | |
| <cellofellow> what sort of stuff did you get for whom? | |
| <Jester45> out* | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <Jester45> i got 2 rings and a GAS CARD FOR MY SIS | |
| <cellofellow> Gas card? | |
| <Jester45> yes | |
| <cellofellow> she have trouble with gas money? | |
| <Jester45> there is a gas station where i live that gives 18 cents off if your use their card | |
| <cellofellow> 18cents? wow. | |
| <Jester45> got cloths for my parents | |
| <Jester45> a | |
| <Jester45> well | |
| <Jester45> 18 cents off means its like 2.00 now | |
| <Jester45> thats 25 gallons i gave her | |
| <cellofellow> your gas is cheaper over there than here. | |
| <cellofellow> wherever there is | |
| <Jester45> where are you | |
| <Jester45> im in missouri | |
| <Jester45> USA | |
| <cellofellow> Utah | |
| <Jester45> sucks for you | |
| <Jester45> and i got my dad a oven/grill glove | |
| <Jester45> withsands 700 degrees | |
| <Jester45> and um | |
| <Jester45> a necklance for my mom | |
| <cellofellow> anyone know a pyGTK MSN Messenger client? | |
| <cellofellow> or just GTK | |
| <Jester45> and my bro got 3 cds and some Colone | |
| <Jester45> cellofellow: gaim? | |
| <Jester45> my doggie got a big bone | |
| *** maxamillion is now known as max_foodz0r | |
| <cellofellow> I don't want gaim. It's not installed. | |
| <Jester45> gave it to him now because it was fresh :) | |
| <Jester45> o | |
| <Jester45> what about naim | |
| <Jester45> i think that can do it | |
| <Jester45> its cli tho | |
| <cellofellow> I like aMSN, but its TK interface is ugly. | |
| <cellofellow> the buttons and other widgets. | |
| <Jester45> i live in the country so i stop at the butcher cow femur | |
| <Jester45> god gonna eat that for weeks | |
| <Jester45> god* | |
| <Jester45> arrrg | |
| <Jester45> dog** | |
| <Jester45> cant type | |
| <Jester45> little morbid but he likesit | |
| <cellofellow> 'taint morbid the dog likes meat. | |
| <cellofellow> that's what dogs eat. | |
| <Jester45> i think i got some blood in my car | |
| <cellofellow> you're 15 right? you drive? | |
| <Jester45> yes | |
| * cellofellow is 16 1/2 and hasn't ever done more than back out of the driveway. | |
| <Jester45> i said COUNTRY | |
| <cellofellow> I'm not exactly a city slicker here. | |
| <Jester45> i can drive at 16 legally | |
| <unikon> damnit the applications button wont work at all | |
| <unikon> and i added the xcfe icon | |
| <unikon> and still no go | |
| <Jester45> unikon: anything work? | |
| <unikon> any suggestions | |
| <Jester45> can you click on other things | |
| <Jester45> if not use atrl alt backspace | |
| <unikon> blue firefox globe does | |
| <unikon> that all | |
| <Jester45> ok | |
| <cellofellow> :( | |
| <Jester45> dont use that then | |
| <unikon> what would u recommend | |
| * cellofellow begins to port-forward his stupid router for azureas | |
| <czer323> edgy's kernel has really been pissing me off. | |
| <cellofellow> what happened? | |
| <czer323> I've had 2 computers already that had huge ide based issues with it. | |
| <czer323> i can get it installed usually, but afterwards, the cd drives don't work. | |
| <czer323> update to feisty's kernel and blamo. it works agian. | |
| <czer323> or better yet, use dapper live cd, and it works. 2 drives! | |
| * cellofellow has 3 ide HD's and 1 ide CD-ROM works no problem. | |
| <czer323> yeah, I agree, typically, no problems. but lately, i've been working iwth a lot of older hardware. | |
| <cellofellow> well, I think edgy sort of tripped over itself. | |
| * cellofellow reboots his router, might lose connection | |
| *** cellofel1ow is now known as cellofellow | |
| <cellofellow> there we go. | |
| <cellofellow> is there a way to use apt-get to install a local .deb package and have it download needed dependacies? or aptitude? | |
| <Jester45> cellofellow: you could just intall with the .deb thing | |
| <Jester45> and any deps install via apt | |
| <cellofellow> that's the hard way. I was being lazy wanted the "easy" way. | |
| <Jester45> man apt | |
| <Jester45> or man aptitude | |
| <Jester45> would be nice feature | |
| <cellofellow> yeah, aptitude install-local /path/to/package.deb | |
| * cellofellow dreams | |
| <Jester45> better yet aptitude fix this | |
| <Jester45> aptitude fix windows | |
| <Jester45> might take a long time | |
| <Jester45> well im going | |
| <Jester45> bye | |
| <Jester45> and night | |
| *** max_foodz0r is now known as maxamillion | |
| <j1mc> dumb question, but how do you msg somebody w/o opening a new chat window? i'm using xchat. | |
| <j1mc> has anyone tried installing a feisty alpha candidate yet? | |
| <Gubuntu> wow... that looks wield.. motion blured cube spinning | |
| <Gubuntu> wild | |
| <Gubuntu> and wierd | |
| <Gubuntu> turn motionblur on transformed screen | |
| <unikon> XFCE can be a real bitch | |
| <unikon> damn xfce menu keeps disapperaing | |
| <unikon> disappearing* | |
| <crimsun> are you using 6.06, 6.10, or 7.04? | |
| <mandani> hopefully someone can help me with a newbie question | |
| <mandani> I have lost my x interface and would like to get it back | |
| <mandani> I have tried startx and xfce4start and neither is working | |
| <mandani> what can I do to start the x windows desktop up again | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> What error messages are you getting when you try those? | |
| <mandani> startx brought up a blank x window | |
| <mandani> xfce4start says command not found | |
| <mandani> with startx I did not know how to make it bring up the applications and desktop I had previously configured | |
| <mandani> it was definately not what I had used before | |
| <mandani> so I guess not an error but nothing I can work with | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Usually, you'd use 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' to start the GUI. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Is there anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log (probably near the end) that looks relevant? | |
| <mandani> hold on I will check | |
| <mandani> xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom | |
| <mandani> No such file or directory. | |
| <mandani> I am getting a bunch of errors to do with wacom | |
| <mandani> I think that is a poinint device | |
| <mandani> when I tried that gdm start string I cam to a login prompt | |
| <czer323> What happens when you try to log in? Also, is it the graphical login, or a text based one? | |
| <mandani> I can login fine at the text based login prompt | |
| <czer323> So, it doesn't show you a graphical login then when you do the /etc/init.d/gdm start | |
| <czer323> Obvious question, you've tried restarting the computer, right? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> mandani: The references to /dev/wacom are from /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I'm honestly not sure why they put them there by default, because of the problems they cause. If you don't have a wacom tablet, you can safely remove those sections. | |
| <mandani> ok | |
| <mandani> czer323 - graphical login does not start | |
| <czer323> mandani, if you can edit the xorg.conf like PuMpErNiCkLe suggested, that's probalby the next best idea. if you're not sure about how to do that though, you can always try running through the xorg setup by using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' | |
| <mandani> I am trying the dpkg reconfig now | |
| <mandani> funny it ran the command but it did not do anything | |
| <mandani> no errors | |
| <mandani> no action | |
| <mandani> should I restart after running the tool and restarting gdm | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It should've given you an interactive interface for reconfiguring the xorg.conf file. | |
| <mandani> it did that | |
| <mandani> the reboot was no better | |
| <mandani> I have tried to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but it does not exist | |
| <mandani> I ended up opening a new file | |
| <mandani> Is there another location where it may reside | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> There should be a backup file, after running the reconfigure command. | |
| <mandani> yes | |
| <mandani> I will edit that and remove the wacom section | |
| <mandani> seems that the removal of that section hasn't brought it back | |
| <mandani> (WW) I810(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 1 pages failed | |
| <mandani> does this error mean anything | |
| <mandani> not recovering | |
| <mandani> the video is not restarting and I have comletly removed all of the wacom references | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> The box you're using has an Intel integrated video chip? | |
| <mandani> yes this is correct | |
| <mandani> it is a dell gx270 | |
| <mandani> video is on the mainboard | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> There's an explanation for that about 2/3 of the way down the page. | |
| <mandani> I tried it our and it seems that it does not cover it | |
| <mandani> thanks for trying | |
| <mandani> the reason I was hoping for the GUI was because I am not sure how to display a list of users | |
| <mandani> and the group they belong to at the command prompt | |
| <czer323> When you create a user, it usually creates a folder in the /home folder with that users name | |
| <czer323> and i think you can see their groups with "groups <username>" | |
| <mandani> is there a way to show all users in a group | |
| <czer323> groups <group name> | |
| <maxsoft> |vnc | |
| <maxsoft> !vnc | |
| <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | |
| <maxsoft> !hamachi | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hamachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <czer323> Arrrgghhhhh, i hate linux vnc. | |
| <czer323> i don't care about multiple login session | |
| <czer323> i want ONE desktop screen. | |
| <czer323> ONE! | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <czer323> I type in the ip address of the computer i want to see, and I see.... | |
| <czer323> THE DESKTOP! | |
| <czer323> the same screen that, that person is viewing. :-\ | |
| <maxamillion> meh | |
| <czer323> This is day 2 or so of trying to do this. | |
| <czer323> i've ran through eveyr tutorial i can find. | |
| * maxamillion goes back to his code because he has never used vnc and is of no use | |
| <czer323> we're talking 5-6 of them. | |
| <czer323> man, i just wanna know how to help out my grandma when she calls askign for help with a linux computer... okay, i'm done venting. | |
| <maxamillion> czer323: use ssh like every other self respecting linux admin :) | |
| * maxamillion shuts up and goes back to his code | |
| <czer323> Yeah, but that's not going to help me when she's got a question about F-spot and organizing pictures of the grandchildren. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> VNC is mostly *for* viewing the same desktop that's beeing displayed. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/beeing/being/ | |
| <czer323> PuMpErNiCkLe, then tell these developers to make that the default thing to do when you install it. | |
| <czer323> Otherwise, what happens is that i'm looking at a gray screen witha term window. | |
| <maxamillion> czer323: why not code your own? | |
| <czer323> maxamillion, Mainly because I don't have a year to learn to code, and then make a vnc program better than the ones that are already out there. | |
| <czer323> maxamillion, otherwise, it'd be ideal. great idea. :) | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> czer323: It is the default, in every instance I've used it. | |
| <czer323> PuMpErNiCkLe, windows or linux? | |
| <czer323> For windows, you're right. and it's great. it's awesome. it's fabulous. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> czer323: Linux/MacOSX | |
| <czer323> But, from every tutorial I've found so far, I get done, and i try it... and it' snot what i was expecting. | |
| <czer323> For example, this one. | |
| <czer323> !vnc | |
| <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | |
| <czer323> That tutorial is the one that I just did. | |
| <czer323> and it gives you a new :1 display for Xtightvnc to view. | |
| <czer323> it doesn't share :0 with it. | |
| <czer323> And i don't know how to make it do that. | |
| <maxamillion> czer323: well, if you don't have the time or the knowledge to code a peice of software, please , with all due respect, do not make statements like "then tell these developers to...." because the developers do this all in their spare time for free and don't really need to be _told_ anything, you can request or suggest ... | |
| * maxamillion is sorry if he was out of line or rude, but he has a soft spot for open source devs | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> OSS devs are generally cool people. | |
| <czer323> You can't deny that it seems rediculous though that it's this hard to setup a vncserver. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> czer323: FWIW, I don't use tightvnc. You may get different options or results from different software. | |
| <czer323> PuMpErNiCkLe, if you use something that by default shares the desktop, i'd be interested in try it. | |
| <czer323> *trying | |
| <maxamillion> czer323: are you only trying to setup a remote gui forwarding? | |
| <czer323> maxamillion, yep. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> The server software is ARD, which is Mac only, but I use xvnc4viewer as the client. | |
| <maxamillion> czer323: there is something built in for that ... apparently configurable from the gdm login screen ... forget the name of it, lemme google real quick | |
| <czer323> maxamillion, I need to be able to login while the other person is logged in as well. if you're talkin about what i'm thinking, it becomes it's own desktop when you log in. | |
| <maxamillion> czer323: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Remote_Login_via_XDMCP <---guide is for ubuntu, but just alter their gnome related info to xfce and you're golden | |
| <czer323> I'll let you know in a few if it worked, thanks | |
| <czer323> "Unlike vncviewer that just duplicates the current screen on a remote system, XDMCP allows several different users to login and run different GNOME sessions at the same time." | |
| <czer323> :-\ What i really need is right below it and it's gnome only. It's using Vino. | |
| <czer323> I'm going to call it quits on this for now and come back to it later. | |
| <czer323> Quote: "One major difference between Macintosh and Windows vs. GNU/Linux is that in the former one sees the same desktop as the local user. On GNU/Linux, VNC is it's own X server, so provides it's own X displays and not the one's seen by the local user." | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> That shouldn't be an issue if you use x11vnc. | |
| <ellioTb> what up | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: you're up late | |
| * maxamillion is still coding | |
| <ellioTBot> i know, cause i am done w/school, staying up just cause i CAN! | |
| <ellioTb> you have the worst life ever though | |
| <ellioTb> maxamillion, check this game out really quick | |
| <ellioTb> http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/games/tower-defence.html | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: i don't do flash | |
| <ellioTb> weak | |
| <ellioTb> it doesn't work right on my linux lappy :( | |
| <maxamillion> i sorry | |
| <ellioTb> most addictive game ever | |
| <ellioTb> lol, you can hold down space and skip the most levels ever | |
| <ellioTBot> sup rag | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: 61 FLOORS!!! | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: wow you need to take the time you spend on that and target it towards something positive ... like coding :) | |
| <JKnife> what is yalls record on XJump? | |
| <maxamillion> i am still coding!!! | |
| <maxamillion> haven't had time to sleep much less play xjump | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: well i am half asleep.. so i have nothing better to do.. | |
| <JKnife> if i try doing work or something it WILL turn out bad.. just ask ellioTb | |
| <ellioTb> lol | |
| <ellioTb> JKnife, i got a new addictive game for you | |
| <JKnife> that flash one? | |
| <ellioTb> http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/games/tower-defence.html | |
| * JKnife doesn't belive in flash.. | |
| <ellioTb> yessir | |
| <JKnife> =/ | |
| <ellioTb> so many anti-flash fags in here wtf | |
| <JKnife> !language | ellioTb | |
| <ubotu> ellioTb: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <ellioTb> !language > jknife | |
| <JKnife> ellioTb: =/ i do not like being pmed | |
| <ellioTb> what do you have against flash, i know maxamillion doesn't like it cause he lost some game on nickelodeon.com | |
| <maxamillion> negative | |
| <ellioTb> ghost rider | |
| <maxamillion> flash is a horrible technology and i hate macromedia with a passion | |
| <ellioTb> why do you hate macromeida | |
| <ellioTb> err media | |
| <JKnife> i do not like slow as poo things.. | |
| <maxamillion> what have they done that is worth my time since they came into existance? | |
| * JKnife loaths firefox and thunderbird | |
| <ellioTb> thats why you don;t like them | |
| <maxamillion> dreamweaver? ... horrible software.... flash? horrible technology ... they are worthless and everyone loves them .... kinda like javascript, i don't get it | |
| <ellioTb> whats horrible about dreamweaver and flash | |
| <JKnife> javascript is ok.. | |
| <ellioTb> i am looking for specifics, not just "they suck, i hate them, they are bad" | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: you're kidding right? | |
| <ellioTb> javascript pwns | |
| <ellioTb> gmail ftw! | |
| * ellioTb finally got this game to work | |
| <JKnife> http://www.happypenguin.org/show?SDLjump <-- OMG i know there are kinnda stupid people using Ubuntu.. but this takes the cake | |
| <JKnife> "i installed the sdl image devel package in synaptic, but i get the same error...i'm running ubuntu dapper. any suggestions?" RUNNING DAPPER and trying to build SDLJump from source | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: flash has never done anything constructive since it was invented and that's why its only used for random little games and to spice up unprofessional websites with silly little animations, and have you ever used dreamweaver?!? most horribly planned gui of web devel software i have ever seen and it enjoys crashing as much as it does running | |
| <JKnife> "my current highscore is 138".. i have a ways to go :( | |
| <ellioTb> i used dreamweaver for all my php, worked great | |
| <ellioTb> what about flash movie player, hate that too? | |
| <JKnife> YES | |
| <JKnife> flash is only good for dateing sims and they sucks... | |
| <ellioTb> just sounds like you two don't like it, but can't give me a real reason | |
| * ellioTb thinks you two secretly love it | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: the flash movie player would be so much better if it were written in python, ruby, or php | |
| <JKnife> it is slow! if they want a universtal product.. it needs to run on just about any hardware.. | |
| <ellioTb> flash movie player is slow? | |
| <JKnife> ellioTb: and you havn't givin us one good reason WHY you like it.. | |
| <ellioTb> JKnife, if you hate things that are slow as poo poo, why are you on the slowest computer ever | |
| <ellioTb> i never said i did like it | |
| <JKnife> you implied it.. | |
| <ellioTb> nope | |
| <ellioTb> just asked why you guys HATE it so much | |
| <JKnife> and ellioTb i have more then one pc.. it is slow there also | |
| <ellioTb> and i like watching maxamillion type novels when i ask him a question like that, lol | |
| <ellioTb> i just never had a problem, so i was wondering why i should hate it too | |
| <ellioTb> only problem i have had with flash was on linux | |
| <ellioTb> and now it works! | |
| <JKnife> like what you want and hate what you want.. | |
| <JKnife> just do not impose it on othersXD | |
| <JKnife> others XD * | |
| <ellioTb> i teach people to hate everyone that isn't white, is that bad? | |
| <maxamillion> i wouldn't mind seeing gnash turn out to be a successful project though ... i would use gnash | |
| <ellioTb> lol, just playin | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: very bad | |
| <ellioTb> i did like dreamweaver however | |
| <ellioTb> i bet there are better alternatives | |
| * maxamillion hated it something horrible | |
| <maxamillion> yeah ... a text editor | |
| <maxamillion> with syntax highlighting* | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Heh... everytime I see you guys debating stuff like Flash, I think of this: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2595/internetargumentya9.jpg | |
| <maxamillion> you know .... something like gvim | |
| <ellioTb> with built in ftp access? | |
| <ellioTb> where i can have 10 pages open at once | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: gftp, alt tab | |
| <ellioTb> will autosave, etc etc | |
| <JKnife> http://www.download.com/Icy-Tower/3000-2099_4-10500045.html <-- XJump clone for Windows XD | |
| <ellioTb> thats two or three extra steps | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: you can run programs from within VIm | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <JKnife> it is a way to break outta a psh enviroment | |
| <maxamillion> ellioTb: use emacs, it has a web browser, and email client, and anything it lacks you can just write in lisp and run for yourself :P | |
| <ellioTb> i have to write my own stuff | |
| <JKnife> it can even do your girlfreind why you are playing a D&D game.. | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <ellioTb> u gotta admit its easy to use | |
| <ellioTb> i wouldn't pay money for it though, lol | |
| <ellioTb> you can hate flash all you want, this game is awsome | |
| <JKnife> so is XJump XD | |
| <JKnife> brb | |
| <ellioTb> that is the worst game ever | |
| <JKnife> no.. i have just found the WORST game.. asciijump =/ | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: lol | |
| <maxamillion> i would assume that to be pretty bad .... or good, depends on how you look at it and if you are _really_ bored infront of a tty | |
| <RememberPOL> Just some quirks I've noticed: The icon to the left of "Other" in the Applications drop-down, as well as all icons to the left of all categories in the Add/Remove Applications dialog except for "All", have no set icon. (Default orange diamond) Even though Games under Applications DOES have a playing card's icon, but Games in Add/Remove Programs dialog is the default orange diamond. Also, it might be nice if the icon to the left of "Other" und | |
| <RememberPOL> http://xubuntu.org/files/edgy3.jpeg | |
| <RememberPOL> http://xubuntu.org/files/edgy8.jpeg | |
| <RememberPOL> Just some quirks I've noticed: The icon to the left of "Other" in the Applications drop-down, as well as all icons to the left of all categories in the Add/Remove Applications dialog except for "All", have no set icon. (Default orange diamond) Even though Games under Applications DOES have a playing card's icon, but Games in Add/Remove Programs dialog is the default orange diamond. Also, it might be nice if the icon to the left of "Other" und | |
| <RememberPOL> http://xubuntu.org/files/edgy3.jpeg | |
| <RememberPOL> http://xubuntu.org/files/edgy8.jpeg | |
| <RememberPOL> My bad didn't mean to double send. | |
| <maxamillion> the edgy screenshots on the site are actually in need of an update ... those are from a beta build, we are in the works of a complete re-write for the site | |
| <maxamillion> and a couple where gimp'd together to add in what features made it to the final build | |
| <maxamillion> :/ | |
| <RememberPOL> well | |
| <maxamillion> we were very pressed for time | |
| <RememberPOL> it's the same on my system not just the screenshots | |
| <maxamillion> interesting ... well, then i guess we did a good job at cut and pasting :P | |
| <RememberPOL> interesting about the gimp'ing ;) | |
| <RememberPOL> i mean | |
| <RememberPOL> aren't you running xubuntu with xfce? | |
| <RememberPOL> look for yourself | |
| <maxamillion> but yes, there are different issues being addressed and some of our issues are about the fact that xfce isn't stable so we keep having to cut corners on certain parts with known bugs | |
| <RememberPOL> And the default site that comes up with firefox on install still says 6.04 | |
| <RememberPOL> hehe | |
| <maxamillion> RememberPOL: yeah, i am ... but i don't generally edit the menu, just let it do what it wants, i generally use the cli or make icons on my panel for things i use regularly | |
| <RememberPOL> Xubuntu is really nice but it seems to lack a lot of manpower compared to mainstream ubuntu | |
| <maxamillion> RememberPOL: yeah .... we lack the man power, the documentation wasn't ready | |
| <maxamillion> lol ... yeah | |
| <RememberPOL> is that a joke? | |
| <maxamillion> no, just thought it was funny that we both mentioned the lack of man power | |
| <RememberPOL> because documentation is an inanimate concept | |
| <RememberPOL> oh when did you mention this? | |
| <maxamillion> right after you did | |
| <maxamillion> RememberPOL: www.xubuntuguide.org <--another project we hope to have complete for feisty's 7.04 release | |
| <RememberPOL> oh | |
| <maxamillion> but again ... so few people | |
| <RememberPOL> i thought your comment about man power was just to reinforce mine heh | |
| <maxamillion> naw, i was actually typing at the same time ... you just finished first | |
| <RememberPOL> xubuntuguide.org oooo nice idea i've been looking a lot at ubuntuguide.org | |
| <maxamillion> i really think the whole distro is developed, tested, documented and run by 10-20 people (and that is a generous guess) | |
| <RememberPOL> At least xubuntu uses ubuntu repositories | |
| <RememberPOL> that will ensure a level of sanity heh | |
| <maxamillion> yeah | |
| <RememberPOL> run? | |
| <RememberPOL> 20 people run Xubuntu? | |
| <RememberPOL> loll | |
| <maxamillion> no no | |
| <maxamillion> i mean the administrative side of the project | |
| <RememberPOL> ya ya | |
| <RememberPOL> you know what's funny | |
| <maxamillion> google ubuntu counter ... xubuntu is rather popular, same with on distrowatch | |
| <RememberPOL> i come off slackware who defaulted to KDE... | |
| <RememberPOL> BUT | |
| <RememberPOL> i used to run Dropline GNOME on slackware | |
| <RememberPOL> which in my mind is a project that resembles Xubuntu | |
| <maxamillion> i was a _long_ time debian user and used xfce, so the switch was natural for me for the desktop | |
| <RememberPOL> but Xubuntu uses XFCE over the default GNOME | |
| <RememberPOL> lol | |
| <maxamillion> yeah ... i like xfce alot better | |
| <RememberPOL> I get a KDE distro and warp it into GNOME. Then I get a GNOME distro and warp it into XFCE... | |
| <RememberPOL> lol | |
| <RememberPOL> I can predict the fututre: the next most popular system (assuming you consider Ubuntu to currently be "the one") will use XFCE by default | |
| <RememberPOL> (with beryl of course, hehe) | |
| <maxamillion> RememberPOL: i am hoping so ... i actually expect that xfce takes over as being more popular than kde or gnome within the next few years because once xfce4.6 comes out, there will be nothing it lacks in comparison to the others and it will do so much much faster with a cleaner interface and a more logical window manager | |
| <squareyes> evening all, installed xubuntu on an old 166 machine, having probs getting dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to recognise old matrox video card | |
| <squareyes> getting no screen found | |
| <sensei> squareyes: Use VESA | |
| <RememberPOL> matrox: lspci|grep VGA | |
| <squareyes> thanks for that will give it a go | |
| <sensei> Modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually and add vesa to the Driver option under Device | |
| <RememberPOL> squareyes: what does that return? | |
| <squareyes> am not on the old machine at the moment will try it in the morning | |
| <squareyes> may have memory probs, only has 64 meg edo ram | |
| <RememberPOL> that's not horrible | |
| <squareyes> Back, old machine in another room, lspci|grep VGA showed matrox mystique, tried vesa and now works fine. bit slow but now can try and get a few more old machines around here setup. | |
| <maxamillion> squareyes: vesa is a little slow, but its pretty much failsafe ... general rule (if X fails, try vesa ... if it still fails then start checking log files) | |
| <squareyes> better slow than not at all, getting older, but 5 minutes in the 20 odd years I have left are not a problem, all I have to do now is get the serial mouse to work, going to try changing xorg conf to option protocol to Microsoft | |
| <maxamillion> squareyes: serial mouse? .. hrmmm... not sure | |
| <maxamillion> squareyes: what are the specs of that machine? | |
| <maxamillion> zOMG i am tired ... need sleep | |
| <maxamillion> its 5am and i have class at 8am .... been coding all night | |
| <squareyes> 166 meg processor 64 meg edo ram 2.2 gig drive | |
| <maxamillion> i am sooooo ditching chemistry tomorrow (sadly not my 8am, but i can nap afterwards) | |
| <maxamillion> squareyes: wow ... that runs xubuntu? | |
| <squareyes> have xubuntu desktop up and running, no mouse though | |
| <sensei> maxamillion: What are you coding? | |
| <maxamillion> sensei: class stuff | |
| <sensei> Ah, try doing school work at daytime ;) It'll improve your quality of life :) | |
| <squareyes> If I modify "Device" "/dev/input/mice" to Option "Device" "/dev/ttys0" | |
| <squareyes> and change Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" | |
| <squareyes> to | |
| <squareyes> Option "Protocol" "Microsoft" may work? | |
| <maxamillion> sensei: i work during the day time | |
| <maxamillion> !pastebin | squareyes | |
| <ubotu> squareyes: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | |
| <squareyes> no probs | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <b_52Free> plz how could i add the support of arabic + english to the keyboard , for now just the french is nabled , and of course switching with keyboard layout switcher ? | |
| <squareyes> Thanks for the help, my bed time, take care will have a look at paste bin | |
| <maxamillion> night all | |
| *** Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch | |
| <b_52Free> i have the keyboardlayoutswitcher that have crashed , how to know that if he still running , when i clic in his space on the pannel bar nothing happen , i think he crashed how to stop him ? | |
| <Gloubiboulga> b_52Free: run "ps -A | grep xkb" in a terminal | |
| <b_52Free> Gloubiboulga, ok thks | |
| * kalikiana waves | |
| <kalikiana> hi there! | |
| <vidd> good morning kalikiana | |
| <kalikiana> hi, vidd | |
| <vidd> its been quiet this morning | |
| <kalikiana> actually my morning is already over (13:33) *g | |
| <vidd> where you located? | |
| <vidd> germany? | |
| <kalikiana> yep | |
| <kalikiana> and i spent the morning hleping my gf with a report for the university | |
| <kalikiana> chaos theory is a nice topic :) | |
| <zOap> kalikiana, you mean you spent your morning DOING your girlfriend while SHE did her report, right? :D | |
| <vidd> zOap, that is six kinds of wrong | |
| <vidd> that is DIET LARD wrong! | |
| <zOap> vidd, six kinds? what does that mean? it was a joke though:) | |
| <vidd> zOap, as was my comments | |
| <zOap> oh, didn't get that:) | |
| <kalikiana> z0ap: would've been nice... :P | |
| <zOap> Theres a commersial going on and on here in norway atm where a woman tries to save some time by ironing clothes while her husband does her from behind.. really funny:) | |
| <zOap> it's an IKEA commersial actually... | |
| <vidd> they have porn in commercials in Norway? | |
| * vidd considers a move.... | |
| <vidd> what's the job market like there | |
| <vidd> =] | |
| <zOap> no, not really. but you get the point without actually seing it. you just see her ironing while she lays forward and you can sence someone is behind her. and she can't iron properly because of the movement from behind:Dæ | |
| <zOap> job market is ok, oil you know. rich country and all that shit.. | |
| <vidd> what is the predominant language there? | |
| <zOap> norwegian. | |
| <vidd> can an english-only speaker survive long enough to learn the local language? | |
| <zOap> but swedes and the danes fit in nicely. almost the same language. and most norwegains have good english. | |
| <zOap> yeah, I have a english friend. | |
| <zOap> and a german one. and he makes himself understood nicely. | |
| <zOap> english knowledge I mean... | |
| <vidd> Novell is still doing damage control from the fall-out of the M$ pact | |
| <zOap> they fell out? that soon? | |
| <vidd> "fall-out"=bad public reaction | |
| <zOap> ooh, ok. understandable. not the best of deals they've made:D | |
| <vidd> Novell plans more licensing deals | |
| <vidd> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1708605459;fp;4;fpid;3 | |
| <zOap> well, I've never liked novell, but now it's even worse, cause I really dislike the MS monpoly on everything they touch. And it really eats me that they have anything to do with companies in the gnu world... | |
| <kalikiana> novell isn't a real copyleft company, that's the problem | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> What's so bad about the deal they made with Microsoft? | |
| <vidd> it is putting a pothole on the road of the GNU World Order | |
| <vidd> =] | |
| <kalikiana> you can't expect microsoft ever to think of others, that's it; in effect they'll hurt us as soon as it gets them money | |
| <zOap> true | |
| <kalikiana> ms is as altruistic as homer jay simpson | |
| <vidd> no...homer would give you a beer...... | |
| <vidd> M$ would charge you for the beer.... | |
| <vidd> and for the hangover | |
| <vidd> and sue you if you shared it with your buddy | |
| <gripir> homer would never waste a beer for you. | |
| <kalikiana> homer gives you a beer if he's in the mood - if not, he won't care at all | |
| <vidd> M$ is NEVER in that mood | |
| <kalikiana> yes they were - as long as novell hadn't signed the contract | |
| <kalikiana> but that's backstage | |
| <vidd> M$ is going to do the same thing with Novell that they did with Apple | |
| <vidd> (which Bill Gates ownes 57% of) | |
| <czer323> Extend/embrace/extinguish? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> ...invest in them during a difficult period so that they become the most profitable computer hardware manufacturer in the market? | |
| <vidd> partner, steal from, distance | |
| <vidd> M$ didnt INVEST in apple | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yes they did. | |
| <vidd> they were hired to create an Office suite for the (then) new macintosh line | |
| <vidd> which gave M$ access to the GUI before it was available to the public | |
| <vidd> M$ reverce-engennered it, and licenesed it and had it distributed (as windows) before the MAC sales launched | |
| <vidd> .... | |
| <czer323> Which time period are you speaking about? | |
| * vidd has to go to wqork | |
| <czer323> That's way back. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah, 1997. | |
| <czer323> I think PuMpErNiCkLe was talking about semi recently when jobs came back. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> czer323: No, I meant in 1997. | |
| <czer323> *does a mind trip on when macintosh line came out.* | |
| <czer323> "Named after the McIntosh apple, the original Macintosh was released on January 24, 1984." | |
| <czer323> PuMpErNiCkLe, yeah, thats what I thought. That's when Jobs came back to apple. 98 | |
| <czer323> er, 97 | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> That's not exactly recent. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> But yes, that's what I was referring to. | |
| <czer323> I think Vidd is talking like... When the Macintosh line was introduced and Microsoft copied ideas from Ma. | |
| <czer323> PuMpErNiCkLe, Semi recent :) It's not 84. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's almost a decade ago. | |
| <czer323> PuMpErNiCkLe, So, i'm Old. whatever. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yup. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> ^^ | |
| <webmind> good day | |
| <webmind> can anyone tell me what the proper way is in xubuntu to setup a dialup connection ? | |
| <webmind> I've configered one in the network config tool | |
| <webmind> but don't know how to activate it | |
| <maxamillion> hello all | |
| <uStOoPiA> hi all | |
| <uStOoPiA> can't remember if i entered a user name & pass when installing xubuntu | |
| <uStOoPiA> is there a default login after you installed it? | |
| <AlphaN3> ah.. greetings. Guess this is the channel for xubuntu after all :P | |
| <AlphaN3> iI'm on Xfce.. wondering which package of vim should I get, between vim-gnome and vim-gtk2. | |
| <uStOoPiA> official xubuntu support channel | |
| <uStOoPiA> that's what it says... | |
| <uStOoPiA> good one. i would say gnome but that's just an idea | |
| <uStOoPiA> as soon as i can login to me newly installed xubuntu i will use fluxbox | |
| <maxamillion> uStOoPiA: no, there isn't a default ... you are required to set one during installation | |
| <uStOoPiA> then i was too drunk... don't remember what i entered | |
| <maxamillion> AlphaN3: vim-gtk2, its a package that binds gvim to gtk2 isntead of the heavier (slower) gnome libraries | |
| <uStOoPiA> when you are asked to enter it is it a password for root? or a new user name & pass? | |
| <maxamillion> uStOoPiA: lol, that's no good | |
| <maxamillion> uStOoPiA: root account isn't enabled by default in xubuntu, you use sudo for everything | |
| <uStOoPiA> oh really>? didn't know that. might be worth looking into then | |
| <maxamillion> there is an "administrator" account | |
| <uStOoPiA> ok | |
| <uStOoPiA> and is that the account i entered a password for? | |
| <maxamillion> that's the best way to describe it ... basically the user that is created during the installation is automatically added to the "sudoers" list of privilaged users ... or admin's | |
| <uStOoPiA> cause it might help what user i should logon with. then i think i can manage by trying my default passwords | |
| <uStOoPiA> ok like that. then i think i might have an idea what i entered | |
| <uStOoPiA> god hearing me say that makes me feel really :S | |
| <maxamillion> uStOoPiA: yeah, the user you created during install has "root privilages" via sudo and you can even "sudo su" if you like | |
| <AlphaN3> maxamillion: thanks! i never knew they were different | |
| <uStOoPiA> alright | |
| <uStOoPiA> let's try this out then. brb | |
| <maxamillion> AlphaN3: yeah, xubuntu tries to use the lighter alternative of all packages in order to keep it speedy and i too like that ideal so i recommend anything not requiring gnome or kde libraries when there is an alternative | |
| <maxamillion> AlphaN3: i actually just recently switched to gvim from scite .... scite randomly decided to stop working, won't save, won't copy paste, adds random invisible characters like ^M that when in code can cause issues :/ | |
| *** gripir is now known as gripiR | |
| *** gripiR is now known as gripir | |
| *** gripir is now known as gripiR | |
| <webweaver2006> has nyone installed ubuntu on a pl1600 | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: pl1600 would be? | |
| <webweaver2006> compaq server | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: just a moment, lemme google it | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: what's the question about? | |
| <webweaver2006> I want to try ubuntu and know that I have to disable the usb at boot up and when I try to install it will not recognize my nvidia card and crashes | |
| <webweaver2006> with fc4 I had to run a nousb command in my grub | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: X crashes or the entire system? | |
| <webweaver2006> x crashes | |
| <webweaver2006> it says something about EE | |
| <webweaver2006> I tried a runlevel3 for command line install but that did not work either | |
| <webweaver2006> after I get the notification that x cant start the screen goes black and then nothing else of course I didn't wait forever either | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: easy fix, hit ctrl+alt+f2 (that brings you to command line) type the command "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (it will prompt for password) then in there scroll down to a section that labels your graphics card "nvidia <make and model, whatever>" underneith that is says 'Driver "nv"', change the nv to vesa, hit ctrl+o to save (write out to file) and then ctrl+X to exit nano, now ctrl+alt+f7, then ctrl+a | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: so just tell me when that is all done and running | |
| <webweaver2006> that will work on the installation? | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: the reason is that the open source nvidia driver doesn't work with certain cards | |
| <webweaver2006> ok I will be right back and will go try that. | |
| <maxamillion> k | |
| <maxamillion> ooo, updates :) | |
| * maxamillion remotes into his servers so they get in on the fun | |
| <webweaver2006> I cannot find a nv or vesa I do have the lines cirrus logic GD 5446 | |
| <webweaver2006> also pci:0:11:0 | |
| <webweaver2006> I didn't see a gravic card listing either I can look again maybe I missed it | |
| <maxamillion> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ??? there shouldn't be any listing of pci:0:11:0 | |
| <webweaver2006> I typed in exactly what you said and am in the xorg.conf file | |
| <webweaver2006> I'll run to the computer and see where the pci line is | |
| <maxamillion> ok ... scroll down to about the middle ... | |
| <maxamillion> sorry, i was wrong ... there is a listing for the pci device | |
| <maxamillion> there is a section like this ... | |
| <maxamillion> Section "Device" Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV40? [Unknown nVidia Card]" Driver "nvidia" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" | |
| <maxamillion> EndSection | |
| <webweaver2006> don't have that just the pci: line | |
| <webweaver2006> it says Cirrus logic GD 5446 | |
| <webweaver2006> Cirrus | |
| <webweaver2006> pci:0:11:0 | |
| <maxamillion> ok, then back out of there and run this command ... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" | |
| <webweaver2006> I don't see any reference to nvidia at all | |
| <maxamillion> that will take you through a cli menu based configuration tool | |
| <webweaver2006> ok brb | |
| <maxamillion> k | |
| <webweaver2006> ok I am out of that so what command do I use to restart the instalation process? | |
| <webweaver2006> I put it in nv as it was in vesa already | |
| *** gripiR is now known as gripir | |
| <maxamillion> webweaver2006: now do ctrl+alt+f7 and do ctrl+alt+backspace ... _should_ get a gui | |
| <maxamillion> gtg, be back in like 20 minutes | |
| <i7ch> is the (x|k|u|edu)buntu kernel boot graphics a kernel patch, or is it independent? i ask because i'm compiling a fresh kernel from kernel.org and wondering if i should patch it to make it look nice. | |
| <TheSheep> i7ch: it's a program in initrd, afaik | |
| <i7ch> TheSheep, oh, so independent of kernel recompiles. nice. | |
| <AlphaN3> hello again. | |
| <AlphaN3> Hmph.. Can anyone tell me how I can get native-looking (i.e. themed) scrollbar in my XEmacs? | |
| <TheSheep> AlphaN3: write a gtk gui for it | |
| <AlphaN3> oh.. you mean there isn't one? | |
| <AlphaN3> when i see screenshots of emacs on gnome, they're themed, most of the time | |
| <AlphaN3> so i assumed i picked the wrong package | |
| <TheSheep> AlphaN3: I don't know, that's probably a question for #emacs | |
| <AlphaN3> i'll try, thanks! | |
| <webweaver2006> anyone familiar with grub commands? | |
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| <atarinox> can somebody help me with some soundcard problems...it's suddenly stopped working | |
| *** cga is now known as cga`afk | |
| <crimsun> more details, please? | |
| <atarinox> i'm not sure what else to say...i checked my mixer volume...nothing seems to have changed | |
| <atarinox> here's my lspci info: 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) | |
| <crimsun> ok, please pastebin your ``amixer'' | |
| <crimsun> (I'm at work, so my responses will be lagge) | |
| <crimsun> +d | |
| <atarinox> ok...let me figure out pastebin... | |
| <atarinox> trying to send my output...pastebin is either super slow or not working | |
| <atarinox> can I pm you the output? | |
| <crimsun> please use pastebin.ca | |
| *** maxamillion is now known as max_at_class | |
| <atarinox> http://pastebin.ca/270863 | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: any ideas why it would suddenly stop working on me? | |
| <crimsun> (haven't looked, swamped atm, please hold a sec) | |
| <atarinox> ok, thanks | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: 'PCM' is muted. | |
| <crimsun> (i.e., unmute it) | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: how do i make changes to amixer? | |
| <maxamillion> crimsun: if i am logged in remotely via putty/ssh from a windows machine and the net connection is interrupted, all programs running in that session will be terminated and the session will log out.... right? | |
| <crimsun> depending on tcp behavior, yes | |
| <crimsun> that's why I use screen for all ssh sessions | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: use any mixer program | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: e.g., amixer set 'PCM' on | |
| *** AtomicSpaceKrake is now known as NamelessJon | |
| <maxamillion> crimsun: fair enough .. i just grabbed a laptop from the office to come to class and i vpn and ssh to my desktop over wifi and the vpn just randomly died | |
| <maxamillion> crimsun: so i just thought i would ask | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: i tried the set amixer 'PCM' command...still no sound | |
| <atarinox> can't find any way to unmute in Settings>Mixer Settings | |
| <b_52Free> is there a command to relaod the gnome pannel ? | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: xubuntu doesn't include gnome ... ask in #ubuntu | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> b_52Free: 'gnome-panel' | |
| <b_52Free> maxamill1on, euh what the name of the panel down the screen who support xfce plugin | |
| <b_52Free> forgive my ignorance :( | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> xfce4-panel | |
| <b_52Free> hum | |
| <b_52Free> PuMpErNiCkLe, yeap :d | |
| <b_52Free> so in this case i think the answer is in the doc :D | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: pastebin your amixer | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: alt+f2 will bring up a "run" window, type xfce4-panel in there, should come back | |
| <maxamillion> ? | |
| <b_52Free> maxamill1on, hm in fact there is a plugin that have crash and i thought that true reloading it will work , but no the panel didn't move | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: ohhh ok | |
| <b_52Free> :) | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: alt+f2 then "killall xfce4-panel" | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: then alt+f2 and xfce4-panel | |
| <b_52Free> maxamillion, thanks | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: no problem :) | |
| <b_52Free> :d | |
| <katasuka> hello | |
| <maxamillion> hi | |
| <katasuka> xubuntu rocks | |
| <katasuka> best of the ubuntus | |
| <katasuka> in my opinion | |
| <katasuka> just was surfing through the chan lists and seen this room and had to come in | |
| <maxamillion> amen | |
| <maxamillion> well we are glad to have you | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: we are constantly working to make xubuntu even better too :) | |
| <katasuka> i like xubuntu, however, the edgy i didnt like, but dapper is awesome | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: i personally think that within the next 2 years xubuntu will have just as big of a user base as kubuntu ... and once xfce4.6 comes out, we might be the most popular | |
| <katasuka> edgy, thunar had crashes when trying to copy more than 1gb of files and it was overall incredibly slow for me. | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: what about edgy didn't you like? | |
| <katasuka> well im on an amd k6-2 450MHz with 393MB RAM and dapper is super fast, which is why i love it. edgy however was slower than windows 2000 pro which i also have installed | |
| <maxamillion> ouch | |
| <katasuka> and i dont like ubuntu cuz it uses gnome which ive never had good expiriences with, kde is waaaay to slow for me, lol. xubuntu fits just right with my needs and hardware | |
| <maxamillion> i honestly think some of our current performance issues are result of the ubuntu-base (which xubuntu is built off of) had more modules and such added into it and completely did away with the instruction set specific linux kernel ... its just a generic now | |
| <katasuka> yea i was thinking it was from the ubuntu core | |
| <maxamillion> yeah .. i run xubuntu on athlon64 machines and a iBookg4, so speed isn't too big an issue for me, i just really like it | |
| <katasuka> i also noticed with edgy the fstab file changed in a way im not used to | |
| <maxamillion> Linux xUbuntu4work 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux | |
| <maxamillion> see ... -generic :/ | |
| <maxamillion> not sure what that was all about | |
| <katasuka> even if i did have a fast computer id still use xubuntu | |
| <maxamillion> yey! | |
| <katasuka> im surprised xubuntu doesnt fork off into its own distro. like instead of being based of ubuntu core with xfce, maybe start off with the ubuntu base but make some changes to keep it fast | |
| <katasuka> oh and i also noticed, it doesnt seem xubuntu dapper has any printer setup program | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: we lack the man power and the funding to host our own mirrors for something like that | |
| <TheSheep> katasuka: for that, it would need developers :) | |
| <maxamillion> hi TheSheep, haven't seen you in a couple days | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: how you been? | |
| <katasuka> i would offer to help but im not very good with development | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: you can help with documentation, etc. | |
| <katasuka> lol, i have issues with the english language. | |
| <maxamillion> ah | |
| <b_52Free> hm setxkbmap en Error loading new keyboard description !!! ? | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: what language you native to? | |
| <katasuka> which is odd considering my native language is english | |
| <maxamillion> oh lol | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: sick :) | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: but better now | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: what do you prefer? ... xubuntu does support other languages and translators would be a valuable asset | |
| <katasuka> i see language in a weird way. i have to convert text into feeling for me to understand it, and when i write it, i have to convert feeling into text | |
| <maxamillion> TheSheep: well its good that you are better now | |
| <b_52Free> i have enable ar,en,fr in xorg.conf ! but could not switch to us keyboard ? | |
| <katasuka> brb natures calling | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: i dunno ... never messed with keymaps ... i only speak english :/ | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: lol, ok | |
| <b_52Free> maxamillion, :) yeah it fix all keymap problem :) | |
| <b_52Free> i have another small problem under xubuntu | |
| <b_52Free> edgy | |
| <b_52Free> do you know all the small plugin for example for monitoring network / memory ..... ; all of them select diferent color to show the informations but , for me all this plugin draw their performance in blue :) | |
| <b_52Free> ? | |
| <b_52Free> in the option the color is selected but ut rendered in blue | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: not sure, don't use that to monitor :/ | |
| <b_52Free> maxamillion, :) +1 | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: it should just change ... right click it and click properties | |
| <b_52Free> the color that i select are different but the rendering is blue :d | |
| <b_52Free> maxamillion, no problem i love the blue so .... | |
| <b_52Free> and it stick well with the panel so ..... | |
| <maxamillion> true | |
| <icheyne> exit | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <maxamillion> i do that all the time | |
| <b_52Free> please in your "InputDevice dection , at the parameter Driver what do you have their ? | |
| <b_52Free> dection / section | |
| <katasuka> back | |
| <katasuka> wife needed comp | |
| <b_52Free> welcome | |
| <katasuka> btw, anyone got a lexmark z25-z35 printer? | |
| <katasuka> ty | |
| <katasuka> i ask cuz i can contribute a bash script to install the official lexmark drivers for the lexmark z25-z35 printers | |
| <maxamillion> b_52Free: mine says "wacom" | |
| <katasuka> when i was trying to get my z25 to work, i found a way but it was a pain in the butt so i made a script to do all the work, lol | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: nice | |
| <maxamillion> katasuka: scripts ftw | |
| <b_52Free> maxamillion, hm one tuto on internet says keyboard/ my Xorg say kbd , and your say wacom :) | |
| <katasuka> im also working on the second version of a bash script to install "the most requested application" for ubuntu | |
| <weswh-work> has anyone else had strange memory leak type issues? i've tried narrowing it down, but haven't had much luck. i don't use many applications. i switched from firefox to opera, that doesn't seem to be it. i use azureus and amarok...after several days of uptime with just those apps, my mem usage is consistently 450/512 ram or so | |
| <maxsoftX__> hi :) is here grin ? | |
| <maxsoftX__> hi gripir! | |
| <maxsoftX__> do you like enter in my linux ?? | |
| <katasuka> the only memory hogging apps ive noticed at least on xubuntu dapper is firefox and gaim | |
| <maxamillion> weswh-work: azureus would be my guess ... its well documented to have fragged machines by taking over all their system memoty | |
| <maxamillion> memory* | |
| <Qew> b_52Free: shouldn't you want: option "XkbLayout" "us"? Then use setxkbmap us | |
| <weswh-work> hmm, interesting. well that is the one i rarely go without | |
| <maxsoftX__> hi maxamillion do you like try to cnfigure my wlan? | |
| <gripir> maxsoftX__, hi | |
| <gripir> wait 5min | |
| <maxsoftX__> ok! | |
| <maxsoftX__> :) | |
| <maxamillion> maxsoftX__: i'm in class ... wait till i get to the office and i can help | |
| <maxsoftX__> maxamillion: where are you from??? | |
| <b_52Free> Qew, i set XkbLayout to ''us,ar,fr | |
| <maxamillion> maxsoftX__: Texas | |
| <maxsoftX__> a cawboy! :) | |
| <maxamillion> maxsoftX__: meh ... cybercowboy | |
| <b_52Free> "us,fr,ar" i mean | |
| <maxamillion> brb | |
| <maxsoftX__> same channel in different network ?? | |
| <maxsoftX__> I go | |
| <maxsoftX__> good night | |
| <gripir> damn ... | |
| <katasuka> well i g2g, ill prob be in latr | |
| <katasuka> peace | |
| <Olathe> How can I permanently stop cupsd from running without removing xubuntu-desktop from aptitude's installed package list ? | |
| <Qew> you could install bum (boot-up manager) and set cupsys not to run at boot | |
| <vidd> v | |
| <b_52GM> setxkbmap en | |
| <b_52GM> Error loading new keyboard description | |
| <b_52GM> did some neet thiss error :) | |
| <b_52GM> ? | |
| <b_52GM> neet / meet | |
| <Qew> try setxkbmap us | |
| <havoc3d> just installed xubuntu on this old laptop, havning an issue, and would like some input... | |
| * b_52GM throw him self true the window ............ | |
| <havoc3d> it keeps randomly kicking the laptop into sleep mode....even after i've turned off power saving... | |
| <b_52GM> Qew, thanks | |
| <havoc3d> no one has any ideas, then? have done a win2k load on it just to make sure it's not something with the hardware, and the windows didn't seem to have any issue... | |
| <havoc3d> awright...guess i'll try back tomarrow... | |
| <unikon> havoc3dhow old is the install | |
| <unikon> how old is the install | |
| <barktpolar> Hello, Is there a Boot Floppy for Xubuntu? | |
| <TheSheep> barktpolar: no | |
| <TheSheep> barktpolar: but you can boot any otehr linux instead | |
| <barktpolar> Dang, Then I guess I'll have to get a new CD Drive then | |
| <barktpolar> cause when I try to boot Xubuntu, I get I/O Erros when booting | |
| <TheSheep> barktpolar: try burningthe cd at lower speed | |
| <barktpolar> Could I/O Erros Happen whenever teh drive is dirty? | |
| <TheSheep> there can be a number of reasons -- dirty lens, scratched cd, badly burn cd, scratched lens, defective cd drive | |
| <TheSheep> I even had io errors due to defective "ribbon" that was connecting the drive to the mainboard | |
| <barktpolar> dirty lens could be it | |
| <Gubuntu> what kinda system u installing it on ? | |
| <barktpolar> cause I booted PCLinuxOS and Puppy and they booted fine | |
| <barktpolar> I'm not installing it, I'm trying to use the Live CD | |
| <barktpolar> and I have a OLD 8x Speed CD Drive from a Refurbished PC | |
| <Gubuntu> http://www.start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=243&Itemid=1 | |
| <Gubuntu> awsome a nspluginwrapper | |
| <barktpolar> That is the one I HAVE to use to run teh CD | |
| <Gubuntu> lets u use 32 bit plugins in x64 mozzila in linux | |
| <Gubuntu> like flash! | |
| <barktpolar> I'll try booting again later | |
| <Gubuntu> http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper | |
| <Jester45> hi] | |
| <Gubuntu> heya | |
| <barktpolar> Hello | |
| <Jester45> ummm | |
| <Jester45> anyone here have centrytel dsl? | |
| <barktpolar> Jester45, ask the ppl in ##linux | |
| <Jester45> if so is your internet going SLOW like slower than frozen water | |
| <Jester45> why | |
| <Jester45> im just wondering becuase im dling somthing at 8.8 | |
| <Jester45> hoping its not my problem | |
| <barktpolar> KBs | |
| <Jester45> its at 8.5KB | |
| <Jester45> a second | |
| <Jester45> sucks so bad | |
| <Halcy0n> I remember when that used to be considered extremely fast.... :) | |
| <Jester45> lol | |
| <Jester45> people be like OMG 8kbs im goona break my harddrive | |
| <barktpolar> Suggestion on my Booting Problem, will it boot if I use the boot.img file and used it in a floppy from RawWrite? | |
| <Jester45> no cd drive? | |
| <barktpolar> I have one, but I can't clean it or replace it | |
| <Jester45> Halcy0n: you wouldnt happen you have a 14.4k dailup modem? i really waant to find one | |
| <barktpolar> and I have a CD Burner, but my BIOS will not boot Disks from it | |
| <Jester45> barktpolar: tell your bios to shut up and boot | |
| <barktpolar> I Tried already to switch it, but it won't do any good | |
| <b_52GM> what to do when i got bad md5 check sum after apt-get update ? | |
| <Jester45> barktpolar: you have a 2nd computer? | |
| <Halcy0n> Jester4 |
