| <Jeeva> noobs | |
| <Superhuman> Vhata! Top of the morning to ya! | |
| <Superhuman> Hi Jeeva! | |
| <Superhuman> linuxboy: Morning! | |
| <Vhata> hi | |
| <linuxboy> hey hey | |
| <Vhata> I'm 55 minutes late for work | |
| * Vhata leaves the house | |
| <Superhuman> lol! | |
| <Superhuman> I thought it was strange that you didn't give an update yet... | |
| * Vhata gets to work | |
| <linuxboy> Vhata: 65 minutes late! | |
| <linuxboy> Vhata: ^5 | |
| <Vhata> linuxboy: ^5 | |
| * Vhata looks at Superhuman and _Superhuman | |
| * linuxboy looks at _Superhuman and Superhuman | |
| * _Superhuman looks at self....both of them | |
| *** _Superhuman is now known as Superhuman | |
| * Superhuman regains control of self............ | |
| <morgs> Morning! | |
| <Vhata> morgizzle in the hizzle! what's the dizzle? | |
| <Superhuman> Hey morgs! | |
| * morgs instizzles securizzle updatizzles | |
| <morgs> Hi Superhuman | |
| <Vhata> gpg hey | |
| <morgs> and evince | |
| * morgs must figure out that method of running two pppoe sessions and routing local traffic over a local-only ADSL account... | |
| * Superhuman is figuring out how to use Nokia 6680 with 3G on Suse | |
| <linuxboy> morgs: it is easy | |
| <morgs> linuxboy: So i've heard... any links? | |
| <linuxboy> nope | |
| <linuxboy> basically, get the local routes | |
| <linuxboy> and route them down the local account | |
| <morgs> Must just get down and do it... will post a howto once I've got it working. | |
| <linuxboy> morgs: great | |
| <linuxboy> do you know where to get eh routing table? | |
| <morgs> I've seen some comments on myadsl... must just find the thread again. | |
| *** _Superhuman is now known as Superhuman | |
| *** ` is now known as Jeeva | |
| <linuxboy> wow | |
| * linuxboy looks at Superhuman and _Superhuman | |
| <Vhata> those guys, hey? | |
| * _Superhuman damn...the evil one is back | |
| *** _Superhuman is now known as Superhuman | |
| <Superhuman> network keeps dropping irc... :( | |
| *** _Superhuman is now known as Superhuman | |
| *** _Superhuman is now known as Superhuman | |
| <bhtb> :-) | |
| <Vhata> :-S | |
| <Superhuman> O_o | |
| <Superhuman> Ok Guys... | |
| <Superhuman> I'm off....I'll see you tomorrow... | |
| <Superhuman> I'll read the meeting logs from LoCoBot tomorrow... | |
| <Superhuman> Cheers! | |
| <Jeeva> slette | |
| <Jeeva> 7de laan ! | |
| <POps> Hello - I am just checking that I will be comnnected for 8 pm. | |
| <POps> Got to do this on Windows because my Linux box is in hospital. Sad. That is what I am. Sad. | |
| <linuxboy> shame | |
| <Circus-Killer> g'd evening all | |
| <squilla_> yello | |
| <jeang> lo | |
| <POps> Yo | |
| <Circus-Killer> almost forgot about the meeting (crashed my car this afternoon), but i made it, safe n sound | |
| <squilla_> and so how's the car? | |
| <Circus-Killer> well, not too bad, but its not drivable :( but what can you do | |
| <squilla_> walk? :-D | |
| <Circus-Killer> lol | |
| *** morgs changes topic to "Ubuntu South Africa LoCoTeam || Wiki: http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki || Forum: http://za.ubuntuforums.org/ || ML: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za || For support, ask in #ubuntu || Meeting: 7 Dec 20:00 here, main agenda starts around 20:30 when craigaa can get here" | |
| <Circus-Killer> i was thinking more along the lines of getting a rental ;) | |
| <squilla_> we banter in the meantime? | |
| <squilla_> anyone using fiesty yet? | |
| <morgs> meet & greet :-) | |
| <Circus-Killer> i dont know what banter means, but it sounds nice (joking) | |
| <morgs> squilla_, not yet, need bandwidth to download herd 1... | |
| <squilla_> banter = what you fry fish in :-D | |
| <Circus-Killer> nah, i'll wait for the rc1 i think | |
| <squilla_> morgs: how big is it? | |
| <morgs> 700MB... 1 ISO | |
| <bhtb> hi! | |
| <Circus-Killer> jjtoymachine :) | |
| <squilla_> bhtb:hello | |
| <jjtoymachine> hi :) | |
| <morgs> Better to wait for rc1 before installing it on anything serious, but I do want to see if my pet bug is fixed - dapper & edgy not powering off on my laptop... | |
| <squilla_> morgs: surely it's smaller when upgrading from edgy? | |
| <morgs> hmm, probably not everything's changed, so you're probably right squilla_ | |
| <squilla_> I think I may just take the plunge anyway :-) | |
| <Vhata> morgs: heard from Jono Bacon? | |
| <Circus-Killer> i think the only major change in rc1 is a kernel upgrade | |
| <Circus-Killer> could be wrong though | |
| <morgs> Vhata, unfortunately he couldn't make it. Maybe next time... | |
| <Vhata> *gasp* he hates us, doesn't he?! | |
| <squilla_> the "feature" I'm really after is all the sexy artwork that got dropped from edgy late in the game | |
| <diepruis> sexy artwork? | |
| <diepruis> nekkid ppl again? | |
| <morgs> squilla_, I think it's packaged somewhere unofficial... | |
| <squilla_> snot that nb - but I do like the thrill of the naked upgrade hur hur | |
| <squilla_> man it's a beautiful eve outside - any of you near the coast? | |
| <bhtb> Cape Town | |
| <Vhata> Stellenbosch | |
| <Circus-Killer> no, but its nice weather here in joburg too | |
| <jeang> Durban | |
| <diepruis> just bloody warm in centurion | |
| <squilla_> cape town | |
| <morgs> Cape Town | |
| <Circus-Killer> so few joburgers......so much work to do ;) | |
| <diepruis> must be something in the air over here | |
| <diepruis> everything else is in the air, so why not windows as well | |
| <hexdream> Durbs | |
| <squilla_> soooo - beer anyone? | |
| <bhtb> tx | |
| <diepruis> mmmm... beer | |
| <diepruis> anyone tried chinese beer yet? | |
| <squilla_> hmmm - name a brand | |
| <hexdream> couldnt ready the chinese beer instructions so gave up. | |
| <hexdream> kanji is not your friend ;-) | |
| <squilla_> Madagascan "Three Horses" is pretty good | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <jjtoymachine> so what is the actual purpose of the loco teams? to spread the word? | |
| <squilla_> but I gotta say Amstel is pretty close to my heart .. erm liver | |
| <bhtb> yip | |
| <squilla_> ama-spredda | |
| <patricka> ginger beer (with or without raisins) from regel brewery at <http://www.montebello.co.za/>. :) | |
| <morgs> jjtoymachine, basically yes | |
| <squilla_> checking ... | |
| <patricka> where is ubuntu hardware-- does anyone have pointers on desktops loaded with linux friendly hardware (ref linux-printing.org alsa project, etc)? | |
| <squilla_> so we'll discuss opportunities, resources etc? | |
| <diepruis> @patricka I wish I had | |
| <morgs> http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki/LoCoMeetings/Agenda7Dec | |
| *** morgs changes topic to "Ubuntu South Africa LoCoTeam || Wiki: http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki || Forum: http://za.ubuntuforums.org/ || ML: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za || For support, ask in #ubuntu || Meeting: 7 Dec 20:00 here, main agenda http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki/LoCoMeetings/Agenda7Dec starts around 20:30 when craigaa can get here" | |
| <patricka> (i've been doing research and tried to get some solid ideas together with morgs.) | |
| <diepruis> I'd love to see a local vendor of Linux laptops while you're at it :) | |
| <morgs> oh hi patricka | |
| <morgs> diepruis, sahara's had some, but couldn't tell me which distro was on it - and I didn't want to buy one just to look... | |
| <patricka> hi morgs! (opera rocks, does irc too!) | |
| <hexdream> actually not a huge beer fan, but I cant pass up the chance for Beercamp http://barcamp.org/BeerCamp | |
| <POps> Mustek (Mercer) sells machines premounted with Suse. They don't advertise them much because of the Microsoft OEM license business | |
| <Jeeva> Mercer as in, breaks after warranty is over | |
| <morgs> Yeah, hopefully will help Mustek deploy some Ubuntu in the new year... | |
| <diepruis> thanks, I'll have a look | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1856569&postcount=18 | |
| <Jeeva> just for you | |
| <diepruis> I don't really care about the distro | |
| <Circus-Killer> cool | |
| <POps> Been running a Mercer machine for three years now no problems | |
| <diepruis> as long as I'm sure all the hardware will work in ubuntu | |
| <Circus-Killer> ill look now, just posting another post | |
| <squilla_> Ubuntu installation is such a no-brainer - the only reason to get pre-installed is saving on the B$, I mean M$ license | |
| <diepruis> that as well yeah | |
| <jeang> morgs - the sahara one runs some arb asian distro, think based on mandriva. tossed it for ubuntu asap | |
| <diepruis> but I'm talkin wireless after the basic install | |
| <diepruis> and graphics | |
| <Jeeva> whoah, whats wrong with you ppl, you keep on mentioning Sahara & Mustek | |
| <morgs> jeang, cool, they told me it was "version 10.1" or something. | |
| <diepruis> @jeang so the sahara ones work fine with ubuntu? | |
| <Jeeva> everyone knows thats the 2 most unreliable computer manufactures in SA | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <POps> Manufacturers have to put some OS on the machine - many of them mount free DOS if you insist you don't want to pay for Windows | |
| <squilla_> wireless - as long as it's Atheros you're ok - Broadcom is so so, but better than last year | |
| <diepruis> got a better suggestion, jeeva? | |
| <morgs> Jeeva, they're also the biggest | |
| <Jeeva> Sahara is main importer of grey's | |
| <diepruis> I'd love to buy from someone else | |
| <Jeeva> diepruis: get AXIZ | |
| <Jeeva> or Frontosa | |
| <Jeeva> Proton = never stock | |
| <diepruis> @squilla don't atheros use ndiswrapper? | |
| <Jeeva> Sahara = shity service & grey parts | |
| <jeang> dieprius - don't know bout the wireless, never tried that....... but it is an atheros chip | |
| <diepruis> @jeeva thanks I'll check it out | |
| <squilla_> dieprus:madwifi | |
| <Jeeva> Mecer(Mustek) = grey parts from sahara, and no service | |
| <Jeeva> Eurobyte = no stock | |
| <Jeeva> PCDOTCOM = okayish | |
| <morgs> Jeeva, also they are the two who supply government, so if they support Linux then there's a better chance govt will start using it | |
| <jjtoymachine> I only ever use Frontosa and Corex... | |
| <Jeeva> Bethesda = okay | |
| <diepruis> @squilla Ah, my stupidity. Of course. Thanks. | |
| <Jeeva> Corex = Rectron = Rectron = CRAP & OVERPRICED | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <Jeeva> morgs: since government goes for cheapest & BEE | |
| <diepruis> you in the business Jeeva? | |
| <Jeeva> diepruis: yes | |
| <morgs> of course... | |
| <Jeeva> i'm in multiple businesses :) | |
| <diepruis> kk | |
| <morgs> Vhata, where's highvoltage? | |
| <diepruis> @Jeeva the best kind :) | |
| <squilla_> dieprus:but ndsiwrapper works great for some of the Broadcom chipsets | |
| <Jeeva> diepruis: what you looking for | |
| <diepruis> @squilla True, but I feel dirty after using it. | |
| <Vhata> morgs: want me to SMS him? | |
| <diepruis> @Jeeva Cheap, oldish laptop with networking that'll run Ubuntu | |
| <squilla_> dieprus:hence the need for beer, to ease the pain! | |
| <diepruis> @squilla Hurray for beer! | |
| <Jeeva> wel | |
| <morgs> Vhata, if he's not around by 20:30 maybe | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: try for an IBM Thinkpad | |
| <Jeeva> the cheapest place to get notebooks are from chain stores | |
| <Jeeva> since they direct import | |
| <Jeeva> and don't go through suppliers + they buy bulk | |
| <diepruis> @Jeeva but then I pay M$ tax, no? and then I'm not sure about compatibility... | |
| <patricka> south africa desperately needs a "which?" mag | |
| <diepruis> @squilla I've heard they're good. I'll have a look | |
| <diepruis> @patricka which?? | |
| <Jeeva> diepruis | |
| <Jeeva> thats also true :/ | |
| <Jeeva> forgot about that | |
| <Jeeva> haha | |
| <diepruis> it's a pain, no? | |
| <Jeeva> "buy THIS + XP HOME" | |
| * Vhata SMSes his | |
| <Vhata> err | |
| <diepruis> yeah | |
| <Vhata> highvoltage | |
| <jeang> dieprius - makro will let you boot a laptop with ubuntu live cd.;) | |
| <Jeeva> i normally phone AXIZ and ask them for turn arround notebook's | |
| <Jeeva> where someone bought the notebook | |
| <diepruis> LOL! | |
| <Jeeva> used the XP license | |
| <Jeeva> then gave back the notebook | |
| <Jeeva> then i get R 700 off | |
| <Jeeva> and its a brand new notebook | |
| <diepruis> I'd love to see the looks on the makro guys' faces! | |
| <squilla_> Jeeva: man that's cunning | |
| <diepruis> @Jeeva yeah, very sneaky | |
| <morgs> Jeeva: cool! | |
| <patricka> diepruis: <http://www.which.co.uk/> a comparative consumer mag | |
| <jeang> dieprius - the durban branch are intersted more than anything.... | |
| <Jeeva> i dont sell that much hardware though | |
| <Jeeva> not my main thing | |
| <diepruis> @patricka kewl ta | |
| <diepruis> @Jeeva damn... that could be really funny... we should try Incredible Corruption once.. :) | |
| <Jeeva> haha | |
| <Jeeva> If the sales staff even know what a computerz is | |
| <diepruis> yeah true | |
| <patricka> (can anyone recommend a store in stellenbosch? what do you all think of activesystems?) | |
| <diepruis> Haven't heard of them. | |
| <Jeeva> good service | |
| <Jeeva> but you cna buy from me :) | |
| <diepruis> Might be remnants of noobishness showing tho. | |
| <Jeeva> i'm moving back to stellenbosch this month | |
| <Jeeva> studying there again next year | |
| <Jeeva> staying in Bergzicht Plaza | |
| <morgs> craigaa, hi! | |
| <craigaa> greetings all | |
| <squilla_> hello | |
| <hexdream> hey craig :-) | |
| <diepruis> Stellenbosch is nice. Just too warm... | |
| <Jeeva> hence i'm here, in ubuntu, setting up ubuntu server, to wireless stellenbosch next year | |
| <Circus-Killer> jeeva: please go read my response to your last post | |
| <patricka> hi craigaa | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer: something stupid again ? | |
| <Circus-Killer> dont make me report you dude, please | |
| <squilla_> I'm in Muizenberg - one road straight to Stellies | |
| <Circus-Killer> why you so hostile | |
| <Jeeva> because you're one of those retarded ppl that think the old flag = apartheid | |
| <Jeeva> old flag was there 20 years before apartheid | |
| <Circus-Killer> stopping calling me retarded! | |
| <Jeeva> then stop being one :P nuff said | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <Jeeva> go cry with your loser springbok team about the old flag | |
| <highvoltage> morgs: thanks for the reminder :) | |
| <Vhata> ... | |
| <morgs> Thanks Vhata | |
| <morgs> highvoltage, glad you could make it | |
| <diepruis> It's just a fucking jpeg image | |
| <diepruis> It only has power if you let it | |
| <Circus-Killer> please can we loose jeeva | |
| * Vhata ain't SMSing highvoltage *ever again* | |
| <Eon_Red_Apocalyp> greetings peeps | |
| * morgs warms up the CodeOfConduct stick | |
| <Circus-Killer> whats with insulting people | |
| <squilla_> hi | |
| <highvoltage> Vhata: sorry, I thought it was morgs :) | |
| <diepruis> heya | |
| <Circus-Killer> cant have a conversation | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <bhtb> peeps? | |
| * highvoltage saves vhata's number | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer: insults ? | |
| <Jeeva> lol | |
| <Jeeva> learn your history first | |
| <diepruis> Sorry, I get worked up easily. | |
| <Circus-Killer> read my post! | |
| <Vhata> highvoltage: dude, you've SMSed me like a million times? | |
| <Circus-Killer> it has nothing to do with history, but leave it for the forums | |
| <highvoltage> who's ops here, btw? swearing is afainst CoC in ubuntu channels | |
| *** Eon_Red_Apocalyp is now known as Eon_Red | |
| <Circus-Killer> and stop insulting, its not how we dont do this in the community | |
| <morgs> highvoltage, members can be ops AFAIK... | |
| <diepruis> yeah... let's keep the conversation on the thread :) | |
| <morgs> craigaa, do you want to kick off with the agenda? | |
| <jeang> and i thought there was an agenda.... sigh... | |
| <Eon_Red> yeah we need an op | |
| <craigaa> lets start... | |
| <Circus-Killer> yes we do | |
| <craigaa> As I'm sure you have picked up I am Craig Adams, based in Durban | |
| <diepruis> shouldn't the person that started the channel have op privileges? | |
| <Eon_Red> not if channel registered | |
| <highvoltage> I think Charles Majola started it | |
| <diepruis> bah | |
| <morgs> ChanServ handles ops | |
| <craigaa> can everyone introduce themselves please. | |
| <highvoltage> but he's not involved with Ubuntu anymore | |
| <diepruis> introduce, as in? | |
| <morgs> highvoltage, check #ubuntu-ops | |
| * highvoltage is JOnathan Carter | |
| <diepruis> feh | |
| <squilla_> Dave Jones, Cape Town, Muizenberg | |
| <craigaa> who and where | |
| <diepruis> Jan Kroeze, Centurion | |
| <morgs> Hi, I'm Morgan Collett, Durbanville / Cape Town | |
| <jeang> jeang - jean gruneberg - durban | |
| <bhtb> Lesley - Cape Town | |
| <Seeker> Richard Banks, Roodepoort, Joburg | |
| <jjtoymachine> Im Jason Dugmore, JHB | |
| <POps> Bil Cairns Centurion | |
| <geriatric> Robert Holm Port Elizabeth | |
| <POps> Make that Bill! | |
| * Vhata is Jonathan Hitchcock - Stellenbosch | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <patricka> Paul Arzul, Cape Town | |
| <hexdream> Duncan - Durban | |
| <Circus-Killer> Hugh Jacobs, Jo'burg | |
| <Vhata> Dzobeg | |
| <diepruis> hah | |
| <funk19> hi all, sorry i'm late | |
| <highvoltage> poeple are nicely spread around the country :) | |
| <funk19> Justin Hartman, JHB | |
| <squilla_> I'm not spread - I'm just a little over weight! | |
| <diepruis> Sounds like mostly English speakers... | |
| <diepruis> Am I wrong? | |
| <craigaa> nope | |
| <squilla_> nah | |
| <bhtb> Mostly male? | |
| <diepruis> So no Afrikaans guys, black guys? | |
| <craigaa> that seems to be almost everyone... shall we proceed? | |
| <squilla_> not sure :-p | |
| <diepruis> just interested... | |
| <diepruis> Yeah, let's start. | |
| <hexdream> go ahead craig | |
| <craigaa> I'm glad to see so many people here... | |
| <craigaa> but disappointed as there are over 140 member in the mailing list | |
| <highvoltage> most people are winding down this time of the evening | |
| <craigaa> yup | |
| <diepruis> but not us true hackers, eh ;) | |
| <craigaa> I don't want the meeting to be too formal or for us to stick rigidly to the agenda | |
| <diepruis> hear hear | |
| <squilla_> it'd be a good place to start - we can get messy later | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: hacker or cracker? | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer's Avatar | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer Circus-Killer is online now | |
| <Jeeva> Way Too Much Ubuntu | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer's Avatar | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer Circus-Killer is online now | |
| <Jeeva> Way Too Much Ubuntu | |
| <Jeeva> oops | |
| <Jeeva> sorry | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa hacker, 'course :) | |
| <Jeeva> ubuntu CoC | |
| <Jeeva> please read both the forum rules and the ubuntu CoC. anyways, if you gonna just come along to start trouble, we dont need you in the team. we welcome your help, but not your insults. its up to you. | |
| <Jeeva> Circus-Killer: i suggest you stop to attack other people's culture, before i report you | |
| <diepruis> ? | |
| <diepruis> now is not the time, Jeeva | |
| <Circus-Killer> jeeva: why bring it here man | |
| <Circus-Killer> all i was asking was for you to stop the insults | |
| <Circus-Killer> now leave it | |
| <craigaa> please can we both stop now and focus on the meeting | |
| <Vhata> oh my word. | |
| <craigaa> Intro to Ubuntu | |
| <Jeeva> anyway... | |
| <Vhata> leave the forums on the forums. Petty inter-forum flame-wars have nothing to do with this meeting and why we are here. Leave your personal differences outside, and let's continue with the agenda. | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o highvoltage | |
| <craigaa> Does anyone need to be introduced, are there any questions about Ubuntu as a distro or community | |
| <morgs> highvoltage ++ | |
| <craigaa> anyone? | |
| <funk19> nope | |
| <Vhata> craigaa: I'd like a (very) short summary of the role of a LoCo team? | |
| <geriatric> no | |
| <squilla_> please | |
| <Jeeva> have guys tried advertising this channel ? | |
| <Jeeva> #linux za.shadowfire.org | |
| <Jeeva> #programming za.shadowfire.org | |
| <craigaa> Have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ ? | |
| <Ani|inE> can we stay on topic here please | |
| <Vhata> (yes, but there's nothing about 'role', there. I'm okay with moving on, though.) | |
| *** highvoltage sets mode: +oo morgs craigaa | |
| *** craigaa sets mode: +b *!*i=pimp@*.telkomadsl.co.za | |
| *** Jeeva was kicked by craigaa (craigaa) | |
| <morgs> Basically a LoCo team is the local (community, non-commercial) presence for Ubuntu in a country. | |
| <morgs> Anything we care about more than the global community... | |
| <morgs> Translation, Marketing, local PR | |
| <morgs> "We are not a LUG" | |
| <funk19> LUG? | |
| <morgs> Linux User Group | |
| <diepruis> Local place to get CD's... etc | |
| <Vhata> right. not technical support, or intra-member education, etc | |
| <craigaa> no not a LUG | |
| <morgs> We would work with LUGs like GLUG, CLUG, LEAD where it makes sense - without converting them to the "Ubuntu way" ;-) | |
| <craigaa> LoCo Teams are Ubuntu specific | |
| <craigaa> and should work with LUG's | |
| <funk19> ok fair enough but are you saying we only have 140 people in SA? Surely there should be more?> | |
| <diepruis> What about TLUG? | |
| <craigaa> where there is no LUG, an Ubunto LoCo can incubate one | |
| <craigaa> We have over 140 people subscribed to the mailing list | |
| <squilla_> many Ubuntu users have no net access | |
| <craigaa> not all are in ZA | |
| <POps> I am not sure wht the marketing opportunities are. How do we create an Ubuntu profile? | |
| <craigaa> but a very low percentage of people would even know that a LoCo exists | |
| <Circus-Killer> yeh, i happened to stumble on the locoteam by accident | |
| <Vhata> I can see that raising the profile of the LoCo team would be beneficial, but we need to focus more on 'marketing' *Ubuntu* than | |
| <funk19> I stumbled on via the forum. Nice positioning there | |
| <Vhata> than 'marketing' the Loco Team, right? | |
| <craigaa> maybe that is one thing we can ask canonical to work on... the visibility of LoCo teams | |
| <morgs> Vhata, sure, we need to be doing something so people *want* to get involved | |
| <POps> Raising the LoCo team visibility would raise Ubuntu visibility but not the other way round. | |
| <Vhata> morgs: but pimping the loco team in preference to doing loco work, is undesirable | |
| <jjtoymachine> and please make it easier to actually join the team lol | |
| <morgs> Vhata, +1 | |
| <Vhata> (I'm asking, not stating) | |
| <morgs> Vhata, yes | |
| <Vhata> right | |
| <POps> OK - so what LoCo work are we looking to do? | |
| <squilla_> I'm supposed to be getting a small "Freedom Toaster" - perhaps the Toasters could advertise LoCo's in the vicinity? | |
| <patricka> how about branded/modded hardware and/or windows shops running beryl demos...? | |
| <Vhata> Agenda #1 is "What is a LoCo team?" | |
| <Vhata> which is why I asked for a short summary | |
| <hexdream> behind every great anything is a great team, but the team should not outshine the project it is backing. | |
| <Vhata> hexdream: nicely put | |
| <Vhata> my onions are burning | |
| <Circus-Killer> lol | |
| <Ani|inE> maybe we shld focus on the actual Loco and its activities | |
| <morgs> hi jvanderm | |
| <jvanderm> hi morgs | |
| <craigaa> some of these questions are further down on the agenda but... | |
| <hexdream> craig: do you have a list of prospective activities? | |
| <craigaa> I would like us all to understand what a LoCo's functions are | |
| <Vhata> "Ubuntu ruined my supper" | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <craigaa> hexdream: some | |
| <POps> I understand the theory but have trouble visualising the practicality | |
| <hexdream> user error ruined the supper. | |
| <patricka> (vhata: lol-- mine too!) | |
| * craigaa mutters pebcak | |
| <geriatric> people, as a pensioner I can't afford this airtime. Please publish log file address and I will catch up Thanks | |
| <squilla_> craig: Our Prime Directive is to evangelise yes? | |
| <craigaa> geriatric : will do | |
| <craigaa> essentially yes | |
| <Vhata> the LoCo function 'translation' seems to be a specific instance of making Ubuntu easier for South Africans to use. Other examples would be making sure it's on all the toasters, making DVDs available, making support widely available, and so on? | |
| <hexdream> Do you have examples of what other successful LoCos have done? | |
| <craigaa> but lets settle for a less emotive word and say "market" | |
| <craigaa> yes | |
| <squilla_> craig: as long as I can use it inhouse ok? :-) | |
| <Vhata> geriatric: /msg me your email address, I'll mail you where to get the logs and so on | |
| *** highvoltage sets mode: -b *!*i=pimp@*.telkomadsl.co.za | |
| <morgs> "LoCo teams vary dramatically in their interests and goals for the group." | |
| <morgs> Some groups are committed to spreading the word of Ubuntu and advocating its use, whereas some teams only want to provide translations for Ubuntu in their language. | |
| <diepruis> So we get to decide what we want to do? | |
| <morgs> Other groups may want to provide support, particularly if that support is for a non-English language. Whatever the direction of the group, the majority of teams are eager to expand what they do, and if they don't do what you want, maybe you can help them move in that direction? | |
| <morgs> diepruis, sure | |
| <diepruis> sweet | |
| <squilla_> we're pretty hamstrung re language translation - bunch of english speaking white guys? | |
| <morgs> If we don't do it, figure that nobody will do it... | |
| <diepruis> LOL! | |
| <craigaa> one example is australian team who have been very successful | |
| <diepruis> It's always the Aussies, isn't it? | |
| <highvoltage> diepruis: loco teams often have subgroups that take care of all the specifec interests | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <Vhata> diepruis: so typical ;-) | |
| <Ani|inE> isnt english the language of business? | |
| <Vhata> we have eleven languages to translate to | |
| <Vhata> how's translate.org.za ? | |
| <craigaa> local languages are immensely important | |
| <hexdream> translate.org has done a lot of good work. Could re-use lots of what has already been done. save wasted time. | |
| <craigaa> can we do translation later? | |
| <diepruis> Translating to Afrikaans will garner some ferocious support... | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa OK | |
| <mips> hoi | |
| <squilla_> thought afrikaans was done? | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <squilla_> hi | |
| <craigaa> Hi mips: who and where? | |
| <squilla_> seriously | |
| <mips> durbs | |
| <Circus-Killer> squilla_: nothing will be completely done, everything keeps growing | |
| <morgs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto "LoCo teams are predominantly set up to do interesting things such as advocacy, education, support, translations or other tasks." | |
| <Vhata> so, what about Ubuntu availability - can one get it anywhere, can one get updates anywhere, and so on | |
| <diepruis> Like installfests? | |
| <Vhata> what about a local shipit? | |
| <diepruis> Good idea, but massive in scope. | |
| <craigaa> yes, and school labs, and ... and ... :-) | |
| <Circus-Killer> *dreams* | |
| <diepruis> What about just pointing locals to some guy in a suburb with a burner? | |
| <squilla_> I do installations on older hardware for locals - tends to break down when they need a lot of support | |
| <squilla_> dieprus:that's me :-) | |
| <craigaa> Distribution is also important, we are lucky that Canonical offer the ShipIt service | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ PEBKAC? | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ Me 2 | |
| <Vhata> craigaa: ShipIt is slow, and for dapper only, but, ja, sufficient | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa True, but my CD's took like 2 months... | |
| <Jeeva> 2 months, you're lucky | |
| <Jeeva> took me 13 months | |
| <morgs> Canonical send CDs very quickly to LoCo teams, but it's up to us to distribute | |
| <diepruis> 0_o | |
| <craigaa> yes that can be true, but it is an excellent service, regardless of the delays | |
| <patricka> hear hear | |
| <diepruis> @morgs cool, do they send the up to date stuff, or only LTS? | |
| *** Ani|inE is now known as Eon_Red | |
| <jvanderm> I think the first thing that we should do is get the LoCo established albeit in the form of a generic local Ubuntu usergroup. Once we have an active wiki/discussions going we can then plan to take over the world so to speak. We can't plan all the LoCo's plans in one session.... my 2c | |
| <highvoltage> loco teams can get edgy CD's too | |
| <craigaa> LoCo teams have "special" access to shipit | |
| <Vhata> diepruis: the LoCo team has 500 edgy teams, iirc | |
| <Vhata> err | |
| <highvoltage> willvdl has bought 500 edgy discs to CT | |
| <Vhata> 500 edgy CDs | |
| <Vhata> ja | |
| <diepruis> @jvanderm yes | |
| <POps> One service we could offer is to help people with low speed connectivity | |
| <diepruis> @highvoltage kewl | |
| <craigaa> I also have a "few" cd's sitting in boxes in my lounge | |
| <Jeeva> what happend to that toaster points ? | |
| <squilla_> POps: nice idea | |
| <craigaa> can we steer back to the agenda? | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <squilla_> soz | |
| <diepruis> yeah we get a bit sidetracked eh? | |
| <craigaa> Channels of Communication | |
| <craigaa> Mailing Lists... | |
| <craigaa> This I believe will be our primary means of communication | |
| <craigaa> nearly everyone has access to email... | |
| <Vhata> anything web-based is... "contentious" | |
| <craigaa> so it is a universal communications medium | |
| <diepruis> @Vhata what do you suggest as an alternative to web-based communications? | |
| <Vhata> IRC is too informal and transient to be the basis of a communication framework | |
| <craigaa> The wiki is great for storing info... | |
| <Vhata> diepruis: mailing lists | |
| <craigaa> and developing documents or content for easy access | |
| <diepruis> @Vhata Physical ones? 0_o | |
| <craigaa> but not as a comms medium | |
| <Vhata> diepruis: no, man, email. SMTP? port 25? | |
| <diepruis> @Vhata lol! That IS web-based, no? | |
| <craigaa> Forums are an alternative comms medium, but difficult for many people to access | |
| <Vhata> diepruis: no, 'web-based' refers to HTTP, port 80. wikis and forums are web-based. | |
| <hexdream> I quite like the idea of a wiki + supporting mailing list. Makes transient info easier to access. | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Why difficult? | |
| <diepruis> @Vhata Ah... | |
| <craigaa> not everyone can easily just pop up a browser and read the forum | |
| <mips> mailing list are probably the most common method | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Cause of proxies? | |
| <craigaa> a number of reasons from... | |
| <Vhata> forums are not a good communication medium. the signal to noise ratio is too low, and they're too difficult to govern and navigate, in my opinion. | |
| <highvoltage> forums are hard to keep trakck of for busy people | |
| <craigaa> company access policies, time on line for dial up users etc. | |
| <diepruis> @Vhata Good point. | |
| <highvoltage> e-mails are easy to manage | |
| <craigaa> highvoltage: that too | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Okay, agreed. | |
| <jvanderm> and you can get them in daily batches | |
| <Vhata> any organisation will let email in | |
| <craigaa> I don't want to put people off forums... | |
| <diepruis> @Vhata Ironically, enough :) | |
| <craigaa> they are a great tool, especially for support | |
| <craigaa> that is, non urgent support :) | |
| <diepruis> @cragaa ...but they suck for temporal updates? | |
| <hexdream> the problem with mail is trying to access important info. using email for everyday stuff is great, but I think data that is useful from the mailing lists should be kept online, probably in wiki form. | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <craigaa> yes | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa so who's going to/setup the list? | |
| <diepruis> @hexdream yes | |
| <hexdream> wiki is a better format that forums imho, and easier to navigate. | |
| <craigaa> jvanderm setup the list? | |
| <craigaa> the wiki is best for FAQ's and Howto's... | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa sorry, i meant host | |
| <diepruis> @hexdream For known solutions and stuff... knowledgebases yes | |
| <craigaa> lists are hosted by canonical | |
| <hexdream> for loco's, do we provide the lists / sites etc, or is that provided by canonical? | |
| <funk19> i can help with that if needs be (host) | |
| <Circus-Killer> yeh see, i think communication medium depends on the type of communication | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa ok cool - just checking ;) | |
| <highvoltage> lists can be ordered from RT, rt@admin.canonical.com | |
| <craigaa> resolved problems from fora should be replicated into the Wiki | |
| <hexdream> diepruis: yes, you understand what I am getting at. | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Exactly | |
| <diepruis> @hexdream :) | |
| *** morgs sets mode: -o morgs | |
| <craigaa> likewise for mailing lists | |
| <craigaa> Irc can be used for meetings and instant support... | |
| <hexdream> I don't mind assisting with the administration as long as it does not infringe too much ;-) | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa And general solutions to the main Ubuntu wiki | |
| <craigaa> but most people needing Irc support should rather use the mainstream support channels | |
| <craigaa> hexdream - I'll remember that | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Unless it's specific to SA, of course | |
| <craigaa> Managing where content goes will be needed | |
| <hexdream> craigaa: you have my number to chat offline if needed. | |
| <jvanderm> sweet - so we're all agreed with the MailingList... are we still going to need a forum then? | |
| <craigaa> but that does not stop us developing our own "general" content either | |
| <craigaa> the REAL issue is ensuring that relevant info is cross-posted between mediums | |
| <hexdream> yes, I agree. do we run our own independant site or will it integrate with launchpad etc? | |
| <funk19> @jvanderm what's wrong with the loco forum on ubuntuforums? | |
| * craigaa screams! | |
| <highvoltage> shame man :) | |
| <craigaa> someone mentioned launchpad, sorry | |
| <squilla_> har de har | |
| <hexdream> ? | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <craigaa> sorry - I'm allergic to launchpad | |
| <squilla_> that or you're pleased to see me :-D | |
| <highvoltage> craigaa: not good if you plan to do translations, bug triaging, etc ;) | |
| * craigaa shuders | |
| * craigaa shudders | |
| <hexdream> craig: maybe you need that sedative now ;-) | |
| <jvanderm> @funk19 nothing at all, i was just wondering at which point does it become a primary medium | |
| <craigaa> we need people to take on the responsibility of cross posting information | |
| <highvoltage> who is currently running with the forums? | |
| <Circus-Killer> well, i am more than happy to make sure everything shows up on the forum | |
| <craigaa> between mailing lists, fora, and the Wiki | |
| <highvoltage> perhaps that person should take responsobility of getting information from the mailing lists (announcementes, etc) to the forum | |
| <Circus-Killer> i can handle mailinglist to forum, and vice versa | |
| <Circus-Killer> i not so good with da wiki | |
| <funk19> i can help there | |
| <morgs> I'll keep an eye on the forum and update the wiki when I can | |
| <craigaa> I love it! | |
| <Vhata> I won't go near a forum | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <morgs> ForumTeam += Circus-Killer | |
| <highvoltage> Vhata: ^5 | |
| <morgs> WikiTeam += morgs | |
| <Vhata> highvoltage: ^5 | |
| <Circus-Killer> thanks funk19, could do with the help ;) | |
| <craigaa> Because of where we are I'm skipping to LoCo Team Teams in the agenda | |
| <hexdream> I have a low bandwidth connection so crossposting will be difficult for me. Administration should not be too big a problem though. | |
| <mips> I'm allergic to irc so don't really know what i'm doing here :) | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <jvanderm> WikiTeam += jvanderm | |
| <jvanderm> i'll assist morgs | |
| <morgs> :-) | |
| <craigaa> We need teams for the maintenance and management of the Wiki, Fora, Mailing Lists | |
| <craigaa> for the wiki we need someone with MoinMoin skills | |
| <funk19> morgs...? | |
| <morgs> I've got the markup skills, but not the design skills | |
| <morgs> We need a moin theme | |
| <craigaa> for management and configuration | |
| <highvoltage> morgs: you're hired! | |
| <hexdream> wiki + mailing list I can probably help with. Not so much wiki design though. | |
| <Vhata> morgs: congrats! | |
| <funk19> i'm a designer by trade so i can help with designing stuff... just let me know what you need | |
| <craigaa> one thing that needs to happen is an extensive theme overhaul of the Wiki | |
| <tkip> whats ubuntu like? | |
| <diepruis> It's made of awesome | |
| <tkip> not bloatware? | |
| <Circus-Killer> can handle the forum again | |
| <Circus-Killer> management wise | |
| <squilla_> tastes like roast butternut | |
| <morgs> tkip, better than chocolate ;-) | |
| <Circus-Killer> maintenance is ubuntuforum staff | |
| <tkip> gentoo pwns | |
| <morgs> Circus-Killer, there is removal of inappropriate stuff etc | |
| <craigaa> managing the wiki falls into two categories... | |
| <jvanderm> @tkip you pwn'ing gentoo for ubuntu? | |
| <tkip> isent Ubuntu an african word for "I cant install Debian" :D | |
| <Circus-Killer> morgs: what you mean? | |
| <Vhata> tkip: no, for "I can't configure Gentoo" | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <craigaa> content - creation, archiving, and pruning | |
| <Circus-Killer> oh, thats what i meant by management | |
| <morgs> Circus-Killer, just an item for forum maintenance - removing offensive stuff | |
| <morgs> when necessary | |
| <tkip> diepruis, pm again, I shoot you | |
| <tkip> deal? | |
| <craigaa> admin - MoinMoin configuration and maintenance | |
| <Circus-Killer> thats what i meant by management | |
| <hexdream> hey guys, lets stay on topic. | |
| <diepruis> ,,, that's fine tkip | |
| <tkip> when I want your attention, I'll ask | |
| <morgs> tkip, please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | |
| <Circus-Killer> i can handle all that, im on the forums almost everyday | |
| <craigaa> to a degree everyone can create content. | |
| <Seeker> I could help with the technical side of the wiki (as soon as I learn how :) ) | |
| <morgs> Great, so we've got maintenance teams forming. The other type of subteam is for specific LoCo tasks like events planning, marketing/pr, translations etc | |
| <tkip> #gentoo-za <-- empty | |
| <craigaa> it just takes getting used to the syntax - which should be easy for most once you get the hang of it | |
| <morgs> tkip, we're in a meeting here, agenda at http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki/LoCoMeetings/Agenda7Dec | |
| <jvanderm> @funk19 http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDev/ThemeDevelopment | |
| <jvanderm> ;) | |
| <tkip> sounds like fun | |
| <tkip> how off toppic can we go? | |
| * tkip not that he cares | |
| <craigaa> can I have a show of (virtual) hands as to who will help with the wiki? | |
| <morgs> tkip, Code of Conduct will be enforced | |
| * jvanderm raises hand | |
| * morgs will help on wiki content, structure, admin | |
| <funk19> @jvanderm I'mm happy to do a new wiki template. looks relatively simple to implement. all ok with that? | |
| * tkip will help with nothin | |
| <jeang> jeang will help | |
| * craigaa will assist with content and pruning | |
| <highvoltage> I will help when somoen gets stuck and needs some help :) | |
| <jvanderm> @funk19 javol! | |
| * highvoltage knows a tiny bit of moin at least | |
| * Seeker will help with admin/technical | |
| <craigaa> great! | |
| <craigaa> anyone else? | |
| <bhtb> Im into events, marketing,pr, giving talks, art, nailing a thesis on freedom on the patent office door! | |
| <tkip> anyone tried to get telkom to change ptr records for you? | |
| * Circus-Killer will help with cross-posting from forum to mailinglist, and vice versa, and ill manage the forums | |
| <hexdream> seems we have anough volunteers for the wiki. | |
| <funk19> i'll do template for wiki... then we sorted :) | |
| <Vhata> craigaa: /me | |
| <craigaa> going once... | |
| <craigaa> going twice... | |
| <craigaa> Sold! | |
| <craigaa> thats for the minutes :-) | |
| <craigaa> Mailing List Maintenance | |
| <tkip> guess not... | |
| <jvanderm> @tkip dude - your rudeness is not appreciated | |
| <craigaa> We need some people to take on moderation tasks for the mailing list | |
| <tkip> whats with the '@' | |
| <funk19> lol | |
| <Circus-Killer> i wouldnt mind doing that, if i knew how | |
| <craigaa> It's not onerous and amounts to about 5 messages a week atm, but will probably grow | |
| <craigaa> I do it now but I need someone to back me up | |
| <hexdream> hexdream volunteers for mailing list moderation | |
| <morgs> craigaa, are you referring to when messages are posted from addresses that are not subscribed? | |
| <jvanderm> @Circus-Killer it means you need to read every single post ;) | |
| <Circus-Killer> thats fine | |
| <craigaa> yes, and suspected spam | |
| <hexdream> the more volunteers, the less work/stress on the individual moderators. | |
| <Circus-Killer> alright, im up for it, what i meant is, will the messages be forwarded to me, then i have to forward them on once checked, or how does it work | |
| <craigaa> it's done on a can do basis | |
| <tkip> why is it that your choice was ubuntu? | |
| <Vhata> tkip: this is not the time or place for a distro-war | |
| <craigaa> you receive messages and then need to approve or deny, normally through a web interface | |
| <POps> I can help with moderation too - it helps to have a number of moderators | |
| <Vhata> tkip: if you're not interested in the Ubuntu LoCo team, please leave | |
| <hexdream> tkip: please post those requests to #ubuntu. we are in a meeting on this channel. feel free to lurk though. | |
| <highvoltage> tkip: there is currently a meeting running in this channel | |
| <tkip> Vhata, did I mention war anywhere? | |
| <Circus-Killer> cool, i can handle that | |
| <diepruis> Guys, just use the ignore function. | |
| <highvoltage> tkip: we would like you to contribute | |
| <craigaa> ok, done | |
| <tkip> highvoltage, I'll pass thanks | |
| <highvoltage> tkip: but please keep off-topic conversation off the channel during the meeting | |
| <craigaa> Translation | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa i'll help out with the moderation as well | |
| <tkip> bloody hell, not a nice community this one | |
| <craigaa> tks | |
| <diepruis> Translation into? | |
| <craigaa> Translate.org.za already do a lot of translation into ZA languages | |
| <highvoltage> tkip: we try to be nice, we are goverend by a code of conduct, please read through it | |
| <hexdream> tkip: this is a meeting. feel free to listen, and contribute, but keep off topic items for other channels. | |
| <craigaa> Dwayne has agreed to give us some text for the Wiki and provide a link to his site | |
| <jvanderm> @tkip we actually are - it's just that we're trying to work through an agenda here and you're not respecting that | |
| <tkip> I see | |
| <craigaa> translation into South African non-english languages | |
| <tkip> Vhata, dont pm | |
| <squilla_> tkip: before you carry on perhaps remove most of your personal info so we don't have to go look at your blog | |
| <craigaa> "If you would like to be involved in the translation of Open Source | |
| <craigaa> software into South African languages. Including OpenOffice.org, | |
| <craigaa> Mozilla, KDE and GNOME. Then please join the community at | |
| <craigaa> Translate.org.za which focuses on localisation of FOSS into South | |
| <craigaa> African languages. Not only do we look at interfaces but also: | |
| <craigaa> keyboards, locales, spell checker and software to enhance the quality | |
| <craigaa> and ease of localisation such as Pootle our online translation tool." | |
| <jvanderm> @tkip if you're serious about learning ubuntu, you're most welcome to ask you questions on #ubuntu | |
| <Vhata> tkip: I'm trying to keep the main channel clean by not reprimanding you in public. I'll say it out loud if I have to. | |
| <tkip> squilla_, you dont like it? | |
| <Vhata> I /msg'd you because I don't want to fill this channel up with crap about you not respecting the agenda | |
| *** tkip was kicked by highvoltage (Please read http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct before you return) | |
| <craigaa> tkip - Please refrain from off topic comments | |
| <craigaa> too late | |
| <morgs> thanks highvoltage | |
| <Vhata> let's continue | |
| <diepruis> ta | |
| <craigaa> :-) | |
| <craigaa> tkip - Please refrain from off topic comments | |
| <funk19> can i just ask - how come it took so long to kick tkip from the room? | |
| <squilla_> ja | |
| <Vhata> let's leave the topic of tkip and continue with the meeting please | |
| <highvoltage> funk19: we are tollerant and try to help people | |
| <craigaa> +1 | |
| <funk19> gotcha! | |
| <Vhata> speakign *about* off-topic stuff is just as off-topic as the off-topic stuff. let's go on. | |
| <funk19> let's move on ;) | |
| <craigaa> should I post the Translate blurb again? | |
| <diepruis> Nah we got it | |
| <highvoltage> craigaa: where are we on the agenda? sorry, I got lost in all the off-topicness :) | |
| <funk19> got it | |
| <tkip> squilla_, and.. ? I would kinda like some feedback | |
| <craigaa> highvoltage: translation | |
| <tkip> squilla_, maybe pm? | |
| <morgs> craigaa, as long as we get people to contribute in one place for translating - there is a launchpad team for AF translatiing for example | |
| *** highvoltage sets mode: +b *!*=username@*.telkomadsl.co.za | |
| *** tkip was kicked by highvoltage (highvoltage) | |
| <craigaa> yes, we want to avoid duplication of effort | |
| <jvanderm> @highvoltage hooray! | |
| <highvoltage> pity Dwayne couldn't be here tonight :/ | |
| <craigaa> afaic - the AF translation should work with translate | |
| <craigaa> highvoltage: did he know the meeting was on? | |
| <diepruis> Language isn't my forte, but I could maybe chat to some people about translating Ubuntu etc. to Afrikaans | |
| <highvoltage> not sure, I think he is on the list | |
| <jvanderm> how about Klingon?? | |
| <craigaa> which is really easy to do and does not require technical knowledge | |
| <highvoltage> kde and openoffice translations in afrikaans is quite good | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| * morgs must go but will catch up later | |
| <diepruis> Is that a ZA language? | |
| <highvoltage> mozilla not so :/ | |
| <craigaa> cheers morgs | |
| <diepruis> Gnome? | |
| * diepruis waves | |
| <Eon_Red> why so much focus on translation? | |
| <linuxboy> hi, I'm late and I can't stay around. Will someone sum up the meeting later? | |
| <diepruis> It's a localisation team, remember? | |
| <Vhata> linuxboy: logs | |
| <craigaa> translation is critical | |
| <craigaa> k | |
| <squilla_> I speak a fair amount of Xhosa and have Xhosas I can consult with - but they're not tech orientated - does that help? | |
| <craigaa> yes | |
| <jjtoymachine> you think it needs to be in Xhoza, Zulu etc? | |
| <highvoltage> squilla_: indeed, you don't need much (or any) technical skill to translate | |
| <craigaa> Dwayne tells a story of a receptionist who helped out with one of the Sotho translations | |
| <POps> Got to go - thanks. | |
| <Vhata> squilla_: translation is generally a matter of knowing how to say "Open" in Xhosa | |
| <squilla_> probably going to be a bit emgbarassing at first | |
| <craigaa> cheers POps | |
| <jjtoymachine> honestly do you think enough people would make use of it to justify translating it? | |
| <squilla_> Vula! | |
| <Circus-Killer> most definately jj, easier to get ubuntu into under-priviledged schools | |
| <highvoltage> jjtoymachine: yes | |
| <craigaa> yes | |
| <diepruis> good point circus-killer | |
| <jjtoymachine> if they have computers | |
| <squilla_> I have to say - an Ubuntu Linux OS in Xhosa makes huge PR sense :-) | |
| <diepruis> especially in ZA | |
| <diepruis> what with the whole rainbow nation deal ;) | |
| <craigaa> A person's native language is a point of pride and a part of their identity... | |
| <Circus-Killer> and there are some with, ive donated all my old computers to schools | |
| <craigaa> you need to reach out in any way you can | |
| <highvoltage> education is also of higher quality in the mother tongue | |
| <squilla_> *plays violin | |
| <diepruis> Language could be a major selling point for Linux | |
| <craigaa> true | |
| <jjtoymachine> i suppose... | |
| <craigaa> is everyone happy with Dwayne's blurb? | |
| <Circus-Killer> and i stray from the agenda for one second, dont you think it would be nice if the locoteam could go around trying to get companies to donate their old computers to under-priviledged schools, running ubuntu or maybe even edubuntu | |
| <Circus-Killer> can i.... | |
| <craigaa> jjtoymachine: only those interested need to involve themselves in translation\ | |
| <jjtoymachine> that would be cool of you circus | |
| <diepruis> @Circus-Killer Good idea. | |
| <jjtoymachine> craigaa: yeah that wont be me lol | |
| <craigaa> yup - We have an education project in Durban | |
| <diepruis> @Circus-Killer I'd love to help with installation and other technical things. | |
| <Circus-Killer> well, i'm sure if we started doing it, we would definately need the man power :) | |
| <jjtoymachine> yeah I think circus-killers idea is awesome | |
| <hexdream> craig: are you talking about the project with Edd and William? | |
| <craigaa> Yup | |
| <craigaa> It's getting on quite well | |
| <Circus-Killer> okay, just wanted to know how people felt, cool, back to the agenda :) | |
| <craigaa> Teams | |
| <hexdream> ok, cool project. has a lot of potential. | |
| <craigaa> We need to look at topic teams... | |
| <craigaa> first - Marketing | |
| <jjtoymachine> get stickers made? | |
| <craigaa> Marketing Ubuntu - improving visibility - press liaison - etc | |
| <craigaa> that too | |
| <diepruis> Circus-Killer's project would be good for marketing IMHO | |
| <craigaa> yes - but it's specialised, that is why we will also need an education team | |
| <diepruis> Would an article in a local e-zine help? | |
| <diepruis> Ahhh.... | |
| <craigaa> yes! | |
| <diepruis> I might be able to organise one. Read *might*. The zine is about gaming though. | |
| <craigaa> we will also need an event team... | |
| <hexdream> gamerrs like tech too. | |
| <diepruis> That's not a problem though, cause I've been gaming on ubuntu for some time. | |
| <diepruis> @hexdream Good point as well. | |
| <diepruis> Good, I'll look into it. | |
| <craigaa> people good at organising booths at shows, installfests, SFD events etc | |
| <jvanderm> i'm if someone contacted tectonic and mentioned that we're starting a LoCo they'd put that in the next mag | |
| <jvanderm> i'm sure if... | |
| <diepruis> I could help with installfests, if they are located near me. | |
| <craigaa> Alastair, knows, we just have to come to him with a story | |
| <jjtoymachine> I think also if we made our presence know on other forums such as MyADSL etc | |
| <craigaa> yes | |
| <diepruis> @jjtoymachine Seconded. | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa wicked | |
| <hexdream> most mags are usually interested anything like this. as long as its a good story. | |
| <craigaa> when we talk about these teams, we are not allocating all responsibility to those teams... | |
| <bhtb> I dont mind looking cute behind an ubuntu booth | |
| <funk19> :P | |
| <craigaa> these teams are just the people most interested in helping out in these areas and can help others... | |
| <craigaa> with the application of them or specialised knowledge | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa I think it might be a good idea if you posted a quick list of all the categories | |
| <patricka> (i can get a local school library switched from microsoft to (ed)ubuntu if someone can help with a hardware upgrade proposal.) | |
| <highvoltage> jvanderm: tectonic doesn't print the mags anymore | |
| <diepruis> @craig So we can see where we'd fit in | |
| <craigaa> everyone should participate when and where they are inclined or can. | |
| <craigaa> Marketing | |
| <diepruis> @patricka I'll help you with that. | |
| <jvanderm> @highvoltage doh! you're right *blush* | |
| <craigaa> Eductation | |
| <craigaa> Events | |
| <craigaa> there must be others we can think of and build over time | |
| <patricka> @diepruis thanks | |
| <diepruis> All those interest me. Do you mind if I just flit from one to the other where my (decidedly random) skills are needed? | |
| <diepruis> @patrickaa No problem | |
| <craigaa> not a problem | |
| <diepruis> awesim | |
| <jjtoymachine> I would like to be involved in the marketing and education teams | |
| <craigaa> that is the ideal, in fact | |
| <diepruis> :) | |
| <hexdream> I will always be happy to assist with events as long as it does not conflict with the day job. | |
| <highvoltage> how about a customised south african livecd? | |
| <craigaa> let's look at how events would work... | |
| <diepruis> Ditto what hexdream said, and also: if I can acutally help | |
| <craigaa> highvoltage: nice idea. Is it worht the work? | |
| <diepruis> What would you change? | |
| <craigaa> say there is an expo in Cape Town... | |
| <Vhata> craigaa: http://jonathancarter.co.za/im-bringing-edgy-back | |
| <highvoltage> craigaa: I think it can be | |
| <highvoltage> diepruis: mostly language additions | |
| <Vhata> whoever that Jonathan Carter guy is, he knows how to make customised live CDs | |
| <hexdream> I am assuming that the info to do a custom live cd is available? | |
| <highvoltage> diepruis: perhaps local government opendocuments on hiv/aids, etc | |
| <craigaa> The "official" event team members may be in JNB, DBN, PE or PTA | |
| <diepruis> @highvoltage To tie in with translation. Good idea. | |
| <craigaa> these people would give advice to the CTN community members who will have a booth at the expo | |
| <craigaa> maybe one or two would go to cape town for the event themselves | |
| <Circus-Killer> well, im always willing to help with events in jhb | |
| <craigaa> the event team members would also organise CD's, shirts and other stuff for the event... | |
| <squilla_> can do | |
| <jvanderm> it's probably a good idea to have reps in all major cities | |
| <squilla_> in CT I mean | |
| <craigaa> get the idea? | |
| <craigaa> jvanderm - too formal | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa oh ok | |
| <squilla_> Logo Idea: "I'm Ubuntu LoCo" :-D | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <craigaa> so who would be interested in being on the Marketing Team? | |
| <funk19> http://gnewsense.org - will this not provide the live cd format? | |
| <jvanderm> @squilla_ ...said in a bad mexican accent | |
| <Circus-Killer> count me in for jhb events, can help out with those | |
| <squilla_> jvanderm: erm .. Cape Mexican accent? :-p | |
| <funk19> me too for JHB | |
| <hexdream> I can assist with marketing in dbn etc if craig needs an assistant. | |
| <jvanderm> @squilla_ ...tsey! ^_^ | |
| * highvoltage will be working a lot in JHB next year, so a me 2 from me 2! | |
| <jvanderm> i'll help out at any CT event | |
| <jjtoymachine> i help with marketing in JHB | |
| <craigaa> Are you volunteering for the Events team or the Marketing Team? | |
| <squilla_> In CT I can distribute flyers ar quite a rate - I'm pretty far south though | |
| <Circus-Killer> me for events team | |
| <jvanderm> events | |
| <bhtb> both | |
| <jvanderm> my marketing skills are dangerous | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <squilla_> me for marketing and translate | |
| <craigaa> thanks | |
| <Circus-Killer> events and education | |
| <jvanderm> you might just end up with 30 hot blondes in thongs wearing itsy weeny ubuntu tank tops | |
| <hexdream> both. let me know hwre I can help. | |
| <craigaa> Education Team? | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <diepruis> @jvanderm Sad thin is... that'll work | |
| <diepruis> @jvanderm thing* | |
| <squilla_> a side note" I'm listening to ACDC and drinking red wine while at this meeting - so pinches of salt all round :-p | |
| <jjtoymachine> what will the edu team do exactly? | |
| <jvanderm> @diepruis ...maybe i should try this marketing thing ;) | |
| <jjtoymachine> help noobs? | |
| <craigaa> work on getting Ubuntu into schools etc | |
| <diepruis> @jvanderm Could be worth seeing.. just for novelty | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: scary | |
| <jjtoymachine> ok yeah id like to be part of the edu team then as well | |
| <jvanderm> @diepruis perv! | |
| <squilla_> re schools: can't we hook up with schools.org or whatever the name of that project is? | |
| <diepruis> lol | |
| <diepruis> can't deny it | |
| <jvanderm> uhm... isn't that what Edubuntu is about? getting Ubuntu into schools? | |
| <craigaa> there are various education related FLOSS projects and companies in ZA that we will need to collaborate with | |
| <craigaa> For us, yes the focus will be Edubuntu | |
| <squilla_> 'cos we should avoid reinventing the wheel so to speak | |
| <diepruis> Well... I don't want to be associated with a particular team, but I'll help when I feel my skills can add something and when I have the time and inclination. | |
| <craigaa> nope we should be helping improve the wheel | |
| <craigaa> k | |
| <jvanderm> maybe we should just contact whoever is driving Edubuntu in the schools and let them know that we can volunteer if they need any help | |
| <Circus-Killer> squilla_: we should be getting people using the wheel, i dream of a land where every person has a wheel | |
| <craigaa> morgs came up with the idea of Local teams - Durban, Ctn, Jnb etc... | |
| <diepruis> @jvanderm Yep | |
| <diepruis> @Circus-Killer well said | |
| <craigaa> Not true teams, but... | |
| <highvoltage> jvanderm: Edubuntu is Ubuntu for educational environments, yes | |
| <craigaa> really a way to get people in the same areas connected. | |
| <diepruis> We could have a page listing where everyone lives. | |
| <jvanderm> a sub-LoCo! | |
| <squilla_> ah .. steel radial wheels, sigh | |
| <diepruis> Only problem is then that pervy ppl like me will know where you live. | |
| <diepruis> :) | |
| <Circus-Killer> lol | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: why - for accountability :-p | |
| <hexdream> pseudo teams can break tasks into smaller groups and make it easier to make progress without too much in-fighting. | |
| <craigaa> Yes, he suggested that we all create profiles on the wiki and place ourselves in area pages / groups | |
| <patricka> (a school difficulty i have faced is that ubuntu has to run school management software (library checkout, etc...) | |
| <diepruis> @squilla Lol. No, so we know where ppl are when we need them. | |
| <hexdream> pseudo teams would allow prople to contribute to multiple areas easily as well. | |
| <craigaa> Hello Alastair | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa I see a lot of BAD pictures on the horison. | |
| <tectonic> hello all | |
| <craigaa> Everyone welcome Alastair Otter! | |
| <jvanderm> @hexdream and then provide a rep to put forward ideas etc. | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: I'd prefer not to try and imagine | |
| <jvanderm> hey Alastair | |
| <Seeker> Hello Alastair | |
| <hexdream> WELCOME :-) | |
| <funk19> hey! | |
| <squilla_> hello Alistair | |
| <craigaa> tectonic: feel like a celebrity yet? | |
| <Circus-Killer> patricka, tats where i see team members with development skills creating custom programs for schools and that | |
| <diepruis> @cragaa Lol. An hour and I've already got a reputation.. | |
| <diepruis> 'ello | |
| <diepruis> @Circus-Killer Those take VERY long. | |
| <craigaa> is everyone comfortable wrt putting their location (town/city) on the wiki? | |
| <squilla_> yesh | |
| <funk19> yes | |
| <diepruis> @Circus-Killer We could cooperate with the general Linux populace though. | |
| <hexdream> no problem | |
| <squilla_> BTW - short term, achievable goals would be nice | |
| <jjtoymachine> I think it would be really awesome to go give demos at schools...maybe not to the entire school but to those learners that are interested | |
| <Circus-Killer> town and city is fine, not going into street address :) | |
| <bhtb> yip | |
| * craigaa feeds squilla_ some tequila | |
| <diepruis> Yeah sure | |
| <Seeker> no problem here | |
| <craigaa> never a street address please | |
| <squilla_> lord I hate tequila | |
| * diepruis wants tequila as well | |
| <funk19> @craigaa I could do with some of that!!! | |
| * craigaa force feeds funk19 some tequila | |
| <funk19> lol | |
| <jvanderm> just create yourself a page on the wiki with your details - we should standardise on a template (i stole morgs) | |
| <diepruis> @jjtoymachine Good idea. Don't need if anyone will show though. | |
| <craigaa> Back to the agenda | |
| <funk19> @jvanderm me too ;) | |
| <craigaa> jvanderm : good idea | |
| <jvanderm> @funk19 great minds... :) | |
| <craigaa> Getting Involved in Ubuntu | |
| <Circus-Killer> i disagree, i think a lot of students would show up | |
| <squilla_> .... never differ :-) | |
| <diepruis> @Circus-Killer meh, who kowns | |
| <diepruis> knows* | |
| <jjtoymachine> well what if we gave demos to the computer class? | |
| <craigaa> anything by everyone with assistance by the various teams | |
| <hexdream> go ahead craig. | |
| <craigaa> If you have an idea, post it or just do it... | |
| <jjtoymachine> Broadens their horizons | |
| <diepruis> Distributing CDs? | |
| <squilla_> i.e. loose ruck with love | |
| <craigaa> go to the shopping centre to hand out cd's | |
| <craigaa> hold a computer class | |
| <craigaa> etc | |
| <diepruis> Write CDs for ppl without broadshoulder. | |
| <diepruis> ;) | |
| <craigaa> virtually anything goes, just let the mailing list know that you are doing it | |
| <craigaa> If you have an idea and need help - post it | |
| <craigaa> you would be surprised who will be interested in helping | |
| <jjtoymachine> ok...will someone maybe make a weekly condensed newsletter or something? | |
| <diepruis> True. That's Linux. | |
| <Circus-Killer> okay, i really have to go people, but please post a link to the logs on the forum or to mailinglist. to sum up, i am willing to be part of mailinglist management and maintenance, forum management & maintenance, edu team, event team (jhb), and ermm.....anything else i might of said earlier (asi said, please post logs somewhere) :D | |
| <funk19> @craigaa i have a mate who sits on the IS internal network. we can burn distros if you need me to get all the latest ones including the testing | |
| <craigaa> If there is enough news/information coming in a newsletter will be inevitable :) | |
| <diepruis> cheers mate | |
| <Circus-Killer> bye | |
| <diepruis> @funk19 sweet | |
| <craigaa> gone | |
| <craigaa> funk19 thanks | |
| <funk19> @diepruis sweet for him, i still have to drive to get to him if i don't want to wait 12 hours for the download... lol | |
| <craigaa> wrt the newsletter and wiki, we will also need success stories | |
| <diepruis> @funk19 lol | |
| * craigaa grins | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa success stories?? | |
| <jjtoymachine> im off...will get the logs from circus-killer...later guys ;) | |
| <diepruis> Like when you battle a driver for a week and finally get it to work and you scream "Success!" with an evil grin? :) | |
| <jvanderm> adios | |
| <craigaa> If you know of somebody using Ubuntu or doing something interesting, migrating etc. let us know | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa gotcha | |
| <squilla_> I got two of them "success" stories | |
| <craigaa> success stories can go on the wiki | |
| <hexdream> in terms of newsletters, etc, content is king. we should not just do newsletters because we think we should. I think the newsletters should go out when we acvtually have something to say. | |
| <diepruis> I'll be writing something about Linux and Gaming anyway. | |
| <craigaa> hexdream: yes | |
| <diepruis> @hexdream Hear hear. | |
| * craigaa claps | |
| <jvanderm> @hexdream agreed | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: you'll be writing about Gay Linuxing :-) | |
| <craigaa> I am dropping Resources and Services from the Agenda | |
| <diepruis> WTF? | |
| <diepruis> Oh | |
| <diepruis> I see. | |
| <diepruis> Lol | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <squilla_> hur hur | |
| <inetpro> Hi | |
| <squilla_> helo | |
| <diepruis> hi :) | |
| <craigaa> inetpro: Hi | |
| <hexdream> any reason for dropping those topics? | |
| <craigaa> please introduce yourself | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ With the porn distro? Eish! | |
| <squilla_> SIES! | |
| * highvoltage considers kicking the next one that says hi or lol | |
| <inetpro> Gustav Meyer, glad to see that you guys are still busy | |
| <diepruis> rofl | |
| <jvanderm> welcom Gustav | |
| <jvanderm> e | |
| <diepruis> Welcome. | |
| <highvoltage> hi Gustav | |
| <squilla_> *nods | |
| <craigaa> hexdream: I don't think we can discuss it properly without Morgan's input | |
| <jvanderm> continue craigaa | |
| * linuxboy is here now | |
| <Vhata> (nc) | |
| <inetpro> don't know yet where i can fit in... will try to help where I can | |
| <craigaa> hexdream: He had some specific ideas wrt R&S | |
| <linuxboy> hi | |
| <craigaa> The next item is the Code of Conduct | |
| <diepruis> @inetpro That's okay. That's how Linux works after all. ;) | |
| <squilla_> oh god | |
| <diepruis> LOL! | |
| <jvanderm> go craigaa... | |
| <hexdream> craigaa:no problem. go ahead with CoC. | |
| * highvoltage is falling over | |
| <craigaa> Eveyone is expected to abide by the code of conduct on all media | |
| <highvoltage> goodnight ubunteros | |
| <craigaa> http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki/CodeOfConduct | |
| <diepruis> cheers | |
| <mips> Just use the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Or do we reinvent the wheel | |
| <jvanderm> gnight highvoltage | |
| <squilla_> ciao bello | |
| <linuxboy> Hello #ubuntu-za | |
| <funk19> hi and bye | |
| <craigaa> Team leads will be required to actually sign the Code of Conduct | |
| <diepruis> 'ello | |
| <craigaa> ciao | |
| <jvanderm> hello linuxboy | |
| <jvanderm> cheers funk19 | |
| <bhtb> I tried - dont have a seahorse! | |
| <craigaa> ?!? | |
| <diepruis> mispost? | |
| <jvanderm> @bhtb ROFL | |
| <squilla_> wot | |
| <inetpro> bye. Am i that late? Meeting over? | |
| <funk19> @jvanderm no i'm still here - just saying bye to someone leaving | |
| <diepruis> Nearly. | |
| <craigaa> inetpro: nearly | |
| <jvanderm> @inetpro we did start at 8... ;) | |
| <craigaa> well 8.30 | |
| <bhtb> apparently i have to download seahorse to create a key!! | |
| <jvanderm> @funk19 ah... apologies! | |
| <diepruis> @bhtb lawl | |
| <bhtb> what | |
| <jvanderm> @bhtb you can't! seahorses are to slimy! | |
| <diepruis> lawl = texan lol - it's drawled | |
| <inetpro> sorry... got caught up with other stuffs | |
| <diepruis> Anything else on the agenda, craig? | |
| <jvanderm> no problem inetpro... the complete log will be available for you to scrutinize... | |
| <craigaa> you need a launchpad user account and use gnupg to create your keys | |
| <craigaa> Competition Ideas | |
| <diepruis> Oooh! Goody! | |
| <squilla_> craigaa said launchpad! | |
| <funk19> what are the comps actually for? | |
| <craigaa> morgg has offered a signed Ubuntu Book as a prize for something | |
| <inetpro> thanks | |
| <bhtb> who signed it | |
| * craigaa has lost his marbles | |
| <jvanderm> santa claus | |
| <linuxboy> bill gates | |
| <funk19> he he he | |
| <jvanderm> morgs has some hectic contacts | |
| <craigaa> I don't know - I suspec Mark thought | |
| <squilla_> ? Blade signed it? wow! | |
| <jvanderm> signed by Mark S | |
| <diepruis> That's pretty cool. | |
| <jvanderm> ok - let's get on with it... my girlfriend awaits! | |
| <craigaa> we need some form of competition to capitalise on this | |
| <diepruis> What about the logo design thing? | |
| <hexdream> Already got stuff signed by Mark S. The book would be a good read though. | |
| <bhtb> is it a world wide competition | |
| <squilla_> Craig: just saw this: | |
| <diepruis> Have a competition for the best logo. People vote in a poll on the forums and the winner gets the book. | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa enternal or internal comp? | |
| <squilla_> We’ve included all the available local language packs. Ubuntu currently includes translations for 8 of the 11 South African languages (including Afrikaans, Xhosa and Zulu) | |
| <craigaa> That's an option, but we have a pretty good logo designed by Bradley - http://www.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki/ProposedLogo | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: note the bits about the translations | |
| <craigaa> jvanderm: could be either | |
| <jvanderm> yeah - that logo is pretty cool | |
| <diepruis> The one from Richard Banks is good. | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: that is one way to do it | |
| <craigaa> yup it is | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa how about we wait a few months, and the person who made the most contribution to the LoCo gets it | |
| <jvanderm> and then vote | |
| <bhtb> naaah | |
| <craigaa> good idea - how do we measure this though | |
| <jvanderm> votes | |
| <squilla_> just give it to me and be done with it | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa votes? | |
| <craigaa> everyone will vot for themselves :-) | |
| <inetpro> I like the one from RichardBanks | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Nah | |
| <jvanderm> ok - you can;t then | |
| <craigaa> we could ask Mark to officiate | |
| <craigaa> or Jono | |
| <squilla_> Jono | |
| <jvanderm> you can't either, you need the LoCo community to vote | |
| <bhtb> if i win - im giving it away | |
| <squilla_> Mark's busy I think | |
| * craigaa grins | |
| <jvanderm> it should be quite an easy vote methinks | |
| <craigaa> yes? | |
| <jvanderm> we're all going to see who the most valuable contributor will be | |
| <craigaa> get the leads to propose a few people and then everyone votes | |
| <diepruis> yeah | |
| <craigaa> to vote that is | |
| <jvanderm> for sure - the induvudual teams make a short list | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: soz - did you see Ubuntu's been translated already? | |
| <jvanderm> and everyone votes on the list | |
| <craigaa> +1 | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ I think those aren't completed. | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: hmkay | |
| <craigaa> squilla_ what languages are you referring to? | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: Xhosa only | |
| <funk19> ok guys gotta run. nice meeting everyone, be well! | |
| <craigaa> squilla_ they never truly are completed either | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ Afrikaans has been started. I think a few others as well. | |
| <jvanderm> @funk19 adios - catcha later | |
| <diepruis> cheers | |
| <craigaa> any other items that anyone wants to bring up? | |
| <craigaa> ciao | |
| <Seeker> cu | |
| <diepruis> I have a request. | |
| <squilla_> yeah - wine anyone? | |
| <diepruis> I'd like to ask everyone to plug nex.co.za to any gamers they come across. | |
| <craigaa> squilla_ no thanks, I'm tring to give up Windows apps | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa how are you going to coordinate all of this? | |
| <diepruis> Local server running Nexuiz (which is open source and runs on Linux) | |
| <craigaa> it'll be hard | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: lord you're a quick one - and I thought they called you flash for other reasons | |
| <squilla_> :-D | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: you're kidding | |
| * craigaa yells ar squilla_ %#Q$!#!@#~ | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ eh? | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: name a time and date puink | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: name a time and date punk | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ I so confused? | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: nexuiz | |
| <jvanderm> @diepruis cool looking game | |
| <diepruis> Yeah, awesome game. | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: there ain't room in thsi chat for two of us pardner | |
| <craigaa> fortunately there are numerous people willing to help out for a change | |
| <diepruis> We really need some players. | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ Oh you think you can take me? | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: actually ir's well known I make excellent cannon fodder | |
| <bhtb> Time for bed! tx and cu you all soon! | |
| <Vhata> later | |
| <diepruis> @squilla_ Lol! Me too. Don't play much :( | |
| <squilla_> gnight | |
| <diepruis> cheers | |
| <Seeker> bye | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: 500 Server Error | |
| <craigaa> ciao | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: what else | |
| <craigaa> the floor is open | |
| <linuxboy> bye guys | |
| <diepruis> Try www.nex.co.za? | |
| <jvanderm> @craigaa i'm also outta here - let me know if you need help with anything | |
| <craigaa> thx | |
| <jvanderm> cheers all | |
| <patricka> @diepruis: need a contact for you | |
| <jvanderm> hope to see you in the LoCo soon | |
| <diepruis> @patricka What'll you prefer? Email? | |
| <squilla_> well - translations are my fault for now, wiki and webby stuff is kind of sorted | |
| <patricka> @diepruis email fine | |
| <inetpro> when's the next meet en where can i see the logs | |
| <squilla_> dieprus: mail me when you play | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: 500 Server Error | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa Odd... It works for me... | |
| <craigaa> the logs will be online | |
| <craigaa> links will be posted to the mailing list | |
| <squilla_> works for me too | |
| <Seeker> same here | |
| <craigaa> will try another time | |
| <diepruis> Must be running a Windows server.. :) | |
| <diepruis> Sorry, it had to be said. | |
| <craigaa> diepruis: Don't swear at me | |
| <inetpro> thanks craig. will check them out. great to see that this team is growing. Hope to be on time next time. | |
| <diepruis> Okay. | |
| <craigaa> Okay | |
| <diepruis> @craigaa XD So sorry... | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: next time it's whisky! | |
| <craigaa> thanks to everyone for joining the chat | |
| <patricka> @diepruis thanks | |
| <squilla_> plesh | |
| <diepruis> @patricka Sure thing. | |
| <inetpro> bye | |
| <squilla_> cheers | |
| <Seeker> bye | |
| * craigaa feeds squilla_ raw cane intraveinously | |
| <craigaa> cheers | |
| <diepruis> Goodbye everyone. Enjoy the rest of the evening. | |
| <squilla_> what a rush! | |
| <patricka> bye all | |
| <craigaa> g'day | |
| <mips> Don't leave me... | |
| <Xanadu> hi guys is the meeting over? | |
| <squilla_> actually it's a bottle of "Maidens Prayer" 2003 | |
| <squilla_> dunno - got any pr0n? | |
| <craigaa> Xanadu - just finished | |
| <squilla_> just kidding | |
| <Xanadu> craigaa: darn. had previous commitments | |
| <Xanadu> there a log anywhere? | |
| <craigaa> I know the feeling | |
| <craigaa> Xanadu - looking | |
| <squilla_> well ... did you have anything specific you wanted to add? | |
| <Xanadu> just wanted to know if you guys were looking for volunteers in any area - ie where I could help out if wanted | |
| <craigaa> http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2006/12/07/%23ubuntu-za.html | |
| <Xanadu> ta craigaa | |
| <craigaa> Xanadu - plenty... | |
| <craigaa> Marketing, Education, Events, Wiki, Mailing Lists, Fora | |
| <Xanadu> yeah sign my up for all those ;) | |
| <hexdream> gee, look at the time. Will have to continue the plans for world domination tomorrow. | |
| <craigaa> Xanadu - http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2006/12/07/%23ubuntu-za.log for a log with timestamps | |
| <craigaa> lol | |
| <craigaa> cheers hexdream | |
| <craigaa> Word Domination through Superior Firepower! | |
| <squilla_> cheers hexdream | |
| <squilla_> craigaa: this was good and fun too - soz if I was distracting with the chips | |
| <squilla_> erm *chirps* | |
| <craigaa> :-) | |
| <squilla_> craigaa:where are you Geo wise? | |
| <craigaa> ? | |
| <squilla_> what suburb | |
| <craigaa> ah - Westville | |
| <Jeeva> meeting done ? | |
| <craigaa> yup | |
| <squilla_> thanks - I'm off | |
| <craigaa> I have to get going all, thank you for attending | |
| <craigaa> cheers | |
| <Vhata> cheers craigaa | |
| <Jeeva> running fedora core & ubuntu server at the same time | |
| <Jeeva> ftw | |
| <Jeeva> through SSH | |
| <Xanadu> ciao craigaa | |
| <Seeker> bye | |
| <hexdream> cheers all | |
| <Jeeva> running 6x pppoe connections down a 384k line | |
| <Jeeva> ftl | |
| <Seeker> lol why | |
| <mips> later | |
| <Vhata> bai | |
| <Xanadu> ciao | |
| <Vhata> Rosebud. | |
| <Xanadu> night all | |
| <Vhata> Heebleton, then. | |
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