| <GazzaK> morning apokryphos | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> 'lo all | |
| <apokryphos> mownin' GazzaK | |
| <apokryphos> hey | |
| <GazzaK> arghhh, me eyes | |
| <GazzaK> damn cat | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <GazzaK> morning mrben | |
| <mrben> hey GazzaK | |
| <gord> boo winter | |
| <GazzaK> winter? more like rain, eewwww /////////////////////// <--- view out of my window | |
| <gord> you have slanted giraffes walking past your window? cool, didn't think they liked the english rain | |
| <GazzaK> eek | |
| <GazzaK> well I am close to Colchester Zoo here, but not that close | |
| <gord> maybe they performed a 'the great escape' like breakout, tell them not to speak english on that train! | |
| <GazzaK> moooo | |
| * gord does not like the look of the clouds over the horizon... | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning all. | |
| <GazzaK> argh | |
| <jayteeuk> Anyone else on Edgy? | |
| <GazzaK> yep | |
| <GazzaK> and beryl 0.1.3 | |
| <jayteeuk> Did update-notifier tell you there were 47 updates available this morning? | |
| <GazzaK> erm, I did get loads yeah | |
| <GazzaK> including xorg stuff, which always worrys me | |
| <jayteeuk> Mine says "You can install 47 updates" | |
| <jayteeuk> But there's only 12 listed. | |
| <GazzaK> I did them all, and it still works | |
| <jayteeuk> Including Xorg stuff, yeah. | |
| <GazzaK> maybe not 47 though | |
| <GazzaK> 12 sounds right | |
| <jayteeuk> And a gnupg security update. | |
| <jayteeuk> Damn, I just clicked check and now it says 62! | |
| <GazzaK> yep | |
| <GazzaK> I had these - | |
| <GazzaK> !pastebin | GazzaK | |
| <ubotu> GazzaK: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | |
| <GazzaK> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35749/ | |
| <jayteeuk> Cool, ta. | |
| <jayteeuk> There's some Gimp ones in addition to that now, it seems. | |
| <GazzaK> just checked again, got another 10 | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, including gimp | |
| <GazzaK> and some gtk ones | |
| <jayteeuk> And gtk | |
| <jayteeuk> Yeah. | |
| <jayteeuk> Wow. | |
| <GazzaK> what are they doing? | |
| <jayteeuk> I dunno, but it seems like a hell of a lot of changes all at once. | |
| <gord> prolly just one thing that affects a lot of other things | |
| <jayteeuk> Out of interest, GazzaK, how did you get that nicely-formatted log of the updates? | |
| <GazzaK> erm | |
| <GazzaK> in synaptic > File > History | |
| <jayteeuk> See, I'm still learning. That's what I love about computers. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah yes, there it is. | |
| <jayteeuk> That's very useful. | |
| <GazzaK> arghhh, is 3.77% good or crap as a payrise? | |
| <jayteeuk> I think it's marginally above inflation? | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, off to the docs. | |
| <jayteeuk> bbl | |
| <GazzaK> but not beating cost of living, eeek | |
| <gord> take to living under a bridge and watch your cost of living decrease significantly, thus making desirable high-tec doo-dahs more affordable | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <GazzaK> I did actually nearly buy a motorhome | |
| <GazzaK> one of those biggys, about £40K worth | |
| <GazzaK> as long as you move it now and then, no council tax :-) | |
| <gord> on the downside, you have a threat of your entire home being stolen | |
| <gord> that, and iv never managed to drive my house off a sharp curve into some sort of ravine | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, arghhhh I've crashed my home | |
| <GazzaK> or "yearghhh, there be pirates about" | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Are there lots of Pirates and Ravines about your way? | |
| <gord> depends on how drunk he is when the police talk to him after he drives his brand spanking new £40,000 house into a pizza hut | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <GazzaK> yay, we are talking dates now for moving | |
| <GazzaK> 15th Dec :-) | |
| <GazzaK> woo yay | |
| * GazzaK dances about a bit, falls over, breaks leg, spends two months in hospital | |
| <gord> moving just before xmas? what about the decorations? how will santa know where you are? your taking a big risk there | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <GazzaK> got no chimney so santa is stuffed anyways | |
| <gord> he has a magic key! | |
| * GazzaK dances about a bit | |
| <GazzaK> lalalaaa | |
| <gord> I have a weird family reuinion party thing to attend this weekend, all my focus is going to be on making sure that I don't drink so much that I start to dance... that never ends well | |
| * jayteeuk is back from the docs | |
| <jayteeuk> Firstly, everyone knows that Santa has a magic bauble that turns him into little brightly-coloured balls so he can get into your house. | |
| <jayteeuk> No chimney required. | |
| <jayteeuk> More importantly... I have a friend who's having trouble with the Edgy install CD. | |
| <gord> tell him to put it in the cd-drive, putting it in the toaster won't help | |
| <jayteeuk> He's done that. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Hang on, just gathering some details. | |
| <jayteeuk> "I have burnt ubuntu to a cd and tried it on my good pc it worked. I then used that CD on my HP brio P3 500Mhz with 512Mb ram. It gets to the bit that loads it off cd then doesn't load. I've never tried booting it from CD before. It did boot up and it did get to the selection for graphics (i set to 1024/768) then said to load from disc. | |
| <jayteeuk> I haven't booted from a CD for a while (since Breezy), so I'm not that familiar with the boot process. | |
| <jayteeuk> And I don't have a spare PC that I can try it on at the moment. | |
| <binary2k2> jayteeuk: whick option did he choose at the prompt? | |
| <jayteeuk> But it looks as though his PC is capable of a CD boot... I'll ask him. | |
| <jayteeuk> He can't get on IRC from where he is, so I'm having to act as conduit. | |
| <binary2k2> :p | |
| *** gord_ is now known as gord | |
| <jayteeuk> "Basically the loader appears I make a F4 selection for the graphics then I select to load/install ubuntu (option one) then it displays the loader and then it basically goes black." | |
| <binary2k2> I have a HP PC, the BIOS is known to be buggy on them, the first time I tried to boot from CD it kept restarting after I chose a selection | |
| <jayteeuk> Try CTRL-ALT-F1, see if he can get a console? | |
| <binary2k2> he should press F6 to edit the boot options | |
| <binary2k2> and put in: noapic nolapic | |
| <binary2k2> and see if that helps | |
| <binary2k2> he won't get a console, as the kernel isn't loaded at that point | |
| <jayteeuk> I was thinking maybe it had booted but X was borked so he wouldn't get the gdm screen or desktop. | |
| <binary2k2> jayteeuk: it would have shown the splash screen before starting X | |
| <jayteeuk> Good point. | |
| <jayteeuk> Hang on, he might have got the splash screen. | |
| <jayteeuk> He's at work, so he might have got called away... | |
| <binary2k2> ok, let me know when you get hom back | |
| <jayteeuk> He says: " yeah. loads the perbar loader. then on my good pc it goes to the splash screen. then it goes to desktopp. on my brio it goes black and halts" | |
| <jayteeuk> Perbar? Anyone know what he's referring to there? | |
| <jayteeuk> I think he means the progress bar. | |
| <binary2k2> I think it's a progress bar that show the loaging of the kernel in to memory | |
| <binary2k2> so he dosen't see the splasg screen with "Ubuntu" and the loading bar on the one that's not working? | |
| <binary2k2> splash* | |
| <jayteeuk> I think he is seeing that. | |
| <jayteeuk> But then the screen goes black. | |
| <jayteeuk> And he doesn't see the session init splash. | |
| <jayteeuk> Or the desktop. | |
| <binary2k2> that's what I mean, the init splash, if he don't see that, then he needs to add some options to the boot line | |
| <jayteeuk> "When I load ubuntu I get the menu to select vga etc I select 1024x768. I then select option one. This then moves to the ubuntu logo with progress bar which loads like winxp. Then it goes up to 100%. Then it should got to the splash screen but instead it goes black." | |
| <binary2k2> ahh | |
| <jayteeuk> Then I asked "the splash screen -- the one in full colour that says "Loading Nautilus...<something else>...<something else>" and the icons keep popping up as it loads?" | |
| <jayteeuk> And he said: "Nope no splash screen. On my other pc it does do that. But not on the one I want to install on" | |
| <binary2k2> yeah, i meant usplash, not the gnome splash | |
| <binary2k2> what graphics card is it? | |
| <jayteeuk> Thank you -- yes, usplash, that was the t correct term I needed. :) | |
| <binary2k2> i couldn't think of it either then :p | |
| <jayteeuk> "hmmmm i think its a matrox shitty old one" | |
| <jayteeuk> I've got a couple of AGP cards -- an S3 and a Trident IIRC. Maybe I should send him one? :-P | |
| <jayteeuk> But I would have thought it would at least fall back to VGA/VESA? | |
| <gord> my new next door neighbour has left bags out as well as her black bin for the bin men... shes so gonna get a note from the bin men, they are picky these days | |
| <binary2k2> jayteeuk: if the graphical install is failing, he could use the alternate install CD | |
| <jayteeuk> It's a Matrox onboard video adapter. | |
| <binary2k2> it should be ok, maybe not choosing a display setting will help | |
| <jayteeuk> "Just on board [Matrox] atm if it has agp I may try my radeon 9800 pro in it" | |
| <binary2k2> but the alternalte CD is a text install so will work, then at least he can edit the xorg.conf after install | |
| <jayteeuk> Yep, just getting him the URL now. | |
| <popey> moo all | |
| <jayteeuk> Baa popey. | |
| <DaveMorris> gord, yeah they won't take flat packed carborred boxes unless they are in a black bin bag. | |
| * GazzaK wonders if popey can be milked like a cow? he keeps moo'ing all the time | |
| <DaveMorris> even though I bond them together | |
| <gord> we recycle that kind of stuff these days DaveMorris | |
| <binary2k2> jayteeuk: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso | |
| <DaveMorris> my spelling is crap today | |
| <jayteeuk> binary2k2: Ta, already got it. :) | |
| <binary2k2> mornin popey | |
| <DaveMorris> gord, my local tip is shut for 6 months, and the recycle people won't take it either | |
| <gord> well then your recycle people are crap DaveMorris, demand that they stop being so crap and possibly go on some kind of hunger strike where you don't eat any bagels until you get justice | |
| <jayteeuk> Dress up in a batman costume and scale the gates at the tip shouting "Recyclers for Justice" | |
| <DaveMorris> lol | |
| <gord> for some reason I get the feeling I am going to be up half the night hacking up the code for quake 1 to get it to work nicely.... dam you sudden urges for nostalga! | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, must dash -- nursery run. Thanks for your help binary2k2. :) | |
| <binary2k2> you're welcome jayteeuk | |
| * GazzaK tickles chrisbudden14 | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Does anyone know where I can get a cheap, USB, Linux Compatible, cheap Flight Stick? | |
| <GazzaK> flight stick? like a joystick? | |
| <mrben> GazzaK: well, I'm presuming not a stick that makes you fly | |
| <mrben> although if there is such a thing, then /me wants | |
| <mrben> ;) | |
| <GazzaK> maybe it's like in "harry potter" | |
| <gord> I hope harry potter gets shot, shot In the face... by me and then I could go 'wheres your stupid crap wizard lame crap crap magic now huh?' n stuff... and then I could go though my life without getting annoyed every few years when another movie/book comes out and the country degrades into moths that fly around bright lights for a few weeks | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Yes, like a joystick | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> :) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> and it needs throttle control | |
| <gord> www.ebay.com ? | |
| *** thefish_ is now known as thefish | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> gord, I tried ebay.co.uk, and it came up with 4, 2 that looked like they'd snap if I used them, and 2 that were £60+ | |
| <gord> soo.... you want high quality goods but you don't want to pay low quality prices? you do understand how our capitalism system works? ;) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> gord: yes, but it's worth a try :) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> what annoys me most is that I gave 2 away (to a charity shop) about 6 months ago, as I'd not used them for a couple of years. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Then jono posted about flightgear and I'm hooked. | |
| <DaveMorris> lol | |
| <jono> sheepeatingtaz: : | |
| <jono> :) | |
| <jono> sheepeatingtaz: its pretty cool, isnt it :) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> jono, seriously cool! | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> did you see my comment on your blog? | |
| <jono> sheepeatingtaz: yep :) | |
| <jono> thanks | |
| <jono> sheepeatingtaz: am just waiting for my flight sim yolk and peddles to come through | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I bet canonical pay you enough to afford the good stuff though :) | |
| <jono> heh | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I like the ideas of having a couple of machine on a network set up and having the panel on one screen and the 'view' on another. | |
| <DaveMorris> network you say | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> DaveMorris: Yup | |
| <DaveMorris> I have a cluster at work with 8 machines driving 24 LCD's, I wonder if it would work with that | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I would imagine so, you issue arguements at the command line (after desgnating one machine to be the host) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> the arguments tell each program instance which bit of the display to show. | |
| <DaveMorris> found a mistake in the website already | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> which? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Teh Flightgear site? | |
| <DaveMorris> yeah | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> s/The | |
| <DaveMorris> Anyway can have easy and open access to the latest development source code | |
| <DaveMorris> should be Anyone | |
| <gord> finding a mistake in a website is like finding a piece of hay in a barn full of haystacks | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> :) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> they could have written the website on my monitor in crayon and I would let them off, the program is that good (IMHO) | |
| <DaveMorris> cool | |
| <DaveMorris> I'll give it ago over xmas | |
| <DaveMorris> and it can count as 'research' :) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> It's just been suggested by a colleague that I should run it at work, and claim "I'm Scouting for potential new depot locations" :) | |
| <DaveMorris> lol | |
| <DaveMorris> *wonders if you can do live feeds from google maps to create the terrian as you fly | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I remember reading somewhere that one of the versions has a 'map' feature for the Navigation system that uses Google Maps | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> But the terrain is really good anyway. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I like to fly out of the airprt I actually learnt to fly at, and that's exactly as I remember it :) | |
| <gord> google maps is rubbish for my area... unless it really is a gray/green blur outside after all | |
| <snail> gord: it can be, but only if you stop taking the drugs... | |
| <DaveMorris> whats the link to berly/xgl on ubuntu? | |
| <gord> !xgl | |
| <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems | |
| <VooDoo> afternoon | |
| <jayteeuk> Afternoon VooDoo. | |
| <VooDoo> everyone well on this dull thursday? | |
| <jayteeuk> Can't grumble really, yourself? | |
| <VooDoo> i'm ok thanks ... | |
| <VooDoo> could be better.... | |
| <jayteeuk> ?? | |
| <VooDoo> could be at home :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Yes, I'm lucky in that regard. | |
| <VooDoo> different job, have money yada yada yada | |
| <VooDoo> :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Ditto. | |
| <VooDoo> know php....the list is endless matey :) | |
| <jayteeuk> I tickled the surface of PHP a while back. | |
| <jayteeuk> Somehow I never really got into it. | |
| <jayteeuk> And now I'm learning Python instead. | |
| <VooDoo> think i'll stick to php just because i know it does what i want it too.....no need to change ust yet. | |
| <jayteeuk> Quite right -- use whatever tool is right for the job. | |
| <VooDoo> well i don't know if its the right tool, but i do know it works :) lol | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I'm attempting to learn python because it seems like it can do most jobs if you know what you are doing with it. | |
| <VooDoo> well most of my coding is for the web, mysql access that sort of thing, and i know php does that perfectly. | |
| <jayteeuk> Someone on #ubuntu-devel last week said something like "Python's a great language for powerful scripting". | |
| <VooDoo> jokosher is written in python. | |
| <jayteeuk> !jokosher | |
| <ubotu> jokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1676 kB | |
| <jayteeuk> Sorry jono, I've seen you blog about it but had no idea what it was. | |
| <VooDoo> sigh, youngsters ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> What? Who? Where? | |
| * jayteeuk looks around fervently. | |
| * sheepeatingtaz waves | |
| <VooDoo> not me i'm an old b'stard | |
| <VooDoo> well not that old | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm old enough to know better. | |
| <VooDoo> maybe i'm just a b'stard | |
| <jayteeuk> Maybe. | |
| <VooDoo> lol | |
| <jayteeuk> Nowt up with that. | |
| <VooDoo> i would be if when i buy my new machine i leave xp on it :) | |
| <jayteeuk> That doesn't make you a b'stard. | |
| <jayteeuk> It just makes you foolish. ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> Anyone know of a web-based IRC client? | |
| <jayteeuk> As in a web page with an IRC client. | |
| <VooDoo> http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/ | |
| <jayteeuk> Apart from the demo, which seems to be locked to irc.blitzed.org, do you know of anywhere it's implemented? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> jayteeuk: I used to use one for freenode, I'll check if it's still in my bookamrks anywhere | |
| <VooDoo> no sorry it was the first one that came up in a google search | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> jayteeuk: I think it was this one, but I'm not sure: http://brujula5.brujula.net/cgi-bin/cgi/irc.cgi?adv=1 | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> the page itself doesn't look familiar, but I had it bookmarked :S | |
| <jayteeuk> sheepeatingtaz: Nice one, thanks. | |
| <moo> Cool, that works. | |
| <popey> jayteeuk: I have it installed at home | |
| <jayteeuk> cgi-irc? | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> so i can bounce off a machine at home when i have no access to ssh at work | |
| <jayteeuk> It's not actually for me, I'm quite happy connecting through XMPP-IRC transport. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> In practise, those times I don't have access to an XMPP client are those times I'm not allowed on... erm... I mean I want to be away from the computer. ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> Actually, I think there's an HTTP-poll module in my XMPP server. | |
| <jayteeuk> Hmmm... looks like it needs another client like JWChat. A project for another day. | |
| <VooDoo> booooooooyakasha! | |
| <jayteeuk> Hello again. | |
| * GazzaK is listening to popey's sexy voice | |
| <jamesbrose> Hey, vmware wont install propoly on edgy | |
| <jayteeuk> moi aussi | |
| <jayteeuk> Bum, why doesn't the Skype window ever get focus when I alt-tab to a new chat window? | |
| <jayteeuk> Anyway, I'm off for the evening. | |
| <jayteeuk> Might be around later, who knows. | |
| <jamesbrose> woops | |
| <jamesbrose> ive broken apt-get | |
| <jamesbrose> apt-get only shows the programs that ive install, and when running apt-get update shows "reading package lists...done" no actual lists | |
| <popey> jamesbrose: what does System --> Admin --> Software sources say? | |
| <jamesbrose> Nothing | |
| <jamesbrose> everything is "unchecked" | |
| <popey> well tick it then :) | |
| <jamesbrose> Still doesnt work | |
| <jamesbrose> apt-get only shows the programs that ive install, and when running apt-get update shows "reading package lists...done" no actual lists | |
| <jamesbrose> woops | |
| <jamesbrose> root@admin-Desktop:/home/admin# apt-get update | |
| <jamesbrose> Reading package lists... Done | |
| <jamesbrose> ok then | |
| <jamesbrose> /etc/apt is no longer there :S | |
| <jamesbrose> how can i repair apt? | |
| <popey> have you ticked the boxes in that app? | |
| <popey> did you then reload? | |
| <popey> also check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list | |
| <jamesbrose> there is no /etc/apt | |
| <jamesbrose> Its all gone :] | |
| <jamesbrose> Is there any way of repairing apt? | |
| <popey> well the first thing to do is figure out what went wrong | |
| <popey> how did you get into this state? | |
| <popey> did you purge apt or something? | |
| <binary2k2> jamesbrose: just download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.45ubuntu14_i386.deb and sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.45ubuntu14_i386.deb | |
| <jamesbrose> will that work with edgy? | |
| <binary2k2> jamesbrose: yeah, that's edgys version | |
| <jamesbrose> OK | |
| <jamesbrose> Ok, im getting this error: sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.45ubuntu14_i386.deb | |
| <jamesbrose> woops | |
| <jamesbrose> this : E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (13 Permission denied) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Evennig all | |
| <binary2k2> did you use sudo? | |
| <jamesbrose> I did | |
| <LoudMouthMan> he did <grin> | |
| <binary2k2> what dose ls -l /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin give? | |
| <NeilSimmons> hi all | |
| <LoudMouthMan> is synaptic or something similar runnnig also ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ney neilsimmons | |
| <jamesbrose> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9301064 2006-12-07 18:02 /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin | |
| <jamesbrose> nope | |
| <NeilSimmons> hi mate | |
| <binary2k2> LoudMouthMan: that wouldn't give "Permission denied" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> binary2k2 . sure but asking the obvious , never harmed. | |
| <binary2k2> yeah :p | |
| <jamesbrose> meh | |
| <jamesbrose> I actually get this : E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (13 Permission denied) | |
| <jamesbrose> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> james brose . two question if I can but in binary2k2 ? | |
| <jamesbrose> Sure sure | |
| <binary2k2> sure LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> 1 ) can you not click on this and have nautlilus package manager install it ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> 2 ) if you sudo bash then try dkpg what occurs ? | |
| <jamesbrose> everything works fine, but i get that error in the little orange thing | |
| <jamesbrose> and when i got apt-get update | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hm and lsof doesnt show anything related to apt doesit ? | |
| <jamesbrose> a wha? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> lsof it lists files whom are open by processes and applications and what not . its sometimes helpful if something has died and gone zombie . | |
| <binary2k2> LoudMouthMan: some bg info, It seems somehow jamesbrose deleted the /etc/apt directory | |
| <jamesbrose> Somehow | |
| <jamesbrose> I have no idea how | |
| <jamesbrose> i installed apt again | |
| <binary2k2> maybe, like popey said, you purged apt? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well that would bork things . . | |
| <binary2k2> but then you wouldn't have the apt-get command, so maybe not | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well would apt-get just default to /var/lib/blah | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sounds like apt is blown away though . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so theres no current /etc/apt at present ? | |
| <jamesbrose> Yes | |
| <jamesbrose> <binary2k2> jamesbrose: just download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.45ubuntu14_i386.deb and sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.45ubuntu14_i386.deb | |
| <jamesbrose> i did that | |
| <jamesbrose> Its upgrading loads of stuff | |
| <jamesbrose> with 0ubuntu3 instead of 0ubuntu2 on the end | |
| <jamesbrose> is that normal? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmmm without looking well over your shoulder then thats a good question . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> they only one who could blow away a /etc/apt directory and live to tell the tale is popey with his virtual machines | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but permission denied despite the fact the file is "there" suggests some other thing may be looking at it as well. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> at that point i would tend towards using ps or lsof to see if theres something out-there thats similar to what im doing thats grabbing the file in question. | |
| *** chaddy_ is now known as chaddy | |
| <jamesbrose> oh brilliant | |
| <jamesbrose> my fstab has gona aswell :] | |
| <LoudMouthMan> does dmesg suggest your Hard drive is on the fritz ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I was going to suggest strace apt-cache stats | sed -ne '/no such/Ip' to locate missing files/folders but it looks like youve a localized black hole in your /etc folder. | |
| <jamesbrose> whats the fdisk command to view all disks etc? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well jamesbrose fdisk will tell you the disks are there if you do something like fdisk /dev/hda . but you could tail -f /var/log/syslog and look for Drive request/seek errors. | |
| <jamesbrose> DO you think i should restart | |
| <jamesbrose> or is it to riskie? | |
| <jamesbrose> risky* | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well to be honest its not sounding good. | |
| <jamesbrose> Nope | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but if you have a LIVE CD and a spare disk then unless your hard disk is on the fritz it should be a way to grab data out and restart the build process from scratch | |
| <jamesbrose> Its not my hard drive | |
| <jamesbrose> Im positive | |
| <LoudMouthMan> whats in syslog though that should be a pointer to any issues ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well as long as its not a recently new SATA . .those things just seem to go for bust at hyper speed. | |
| <jamesbrose> hmm | |
| <jamesbrose> Is there anyway to check and repair this kind of stuff? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> usually yes . but . if things are disappearing from /etc ! well that should be a bad sign. | |
| <jamesbrose> Thing is | |
| <jamesbrose> i just deleted alot of stuff before that | |
| <jamesbrose> (all this happened) | |
| <jamesbrose> it seems ok | |
| <jamesbrose> the systems running right? :P Thats a good sign :P | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Gazzak , | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jamesbrose . true . | |
| <GazzaK> evening | |
| <jamesbrose> Also, ive got another harddrive with a clean installation of ubuntu on if anything goes wrong | |
| <LoudMouthMan> binary2k2 have you any thoughts in the meanwhile ? me . i reckon something is hanging in the background of a prevoious process. | |
| <GazzaK> woo hoo, we are due a big storm | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I also reckon if the amount of data to recover is minimal then it maybe easier to rebuild. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nothing like a good blow to settle the wings eh Gazzak ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmm havent seen dsas in a while . | |
| <binary2k2> jamesbrose: I don't know what happened for /etc/apt and fstab to vanish, but they are too difficult to get back, you may want to fun fsck on the partition tho | |
| <binary2k2> if another process was using /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin , i'd think it would say "Resource temporarily unavailable", not Permission denied | |
| <jamesbrose> hmm | |
| <jamesbrose> bloody strange | |
| <LoudMouthMan> can you do that ona live partition ? i thought fsck prefered umounted vols. but is fstab is gone as with the apt stuff the consensus is grab and run . | |
| <binary2k2> yeah, you have to un mount the partition first, and remake fstab | |
| <binary2k2> well, I think the partition has to be read-only, not un mounted | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheheh binary2k2 . for jamesbrose I think that might be a bit like standing on the branch he is cutting ! , made me chuckle to think . | |
| <binary2k2> so remount read-only | |
| <LoudMouthMan> telinit 2 ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> goto single user as well . | |
| <jamesbrose> RIght! Im just gona restart | |
| <LoudMouthMan> either way mr Brose it sounds like your looking at a clean install | |
| <binary2k2> telinit 1 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh there we go . | |
| <jamesbrose> think i should go for it? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> binary2k2 yeah .. I hammerkeyed that didnt i | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah .. | |
| <binary2k2> :p | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so .. where did mr simmons get to then I wonder / | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ping popey | |
| <NeilSimmons> he's here. Sorry, phone has been going a bit mad. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so how was day one ? | |
| <NeilSimmons> good fun - while the support calls aren't technically demanding, the remote access procedures are a steep learning curve. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> really what are they then ? | |
| <NeilSimmons> editing accounts on an exchange server meant RDP'ing through two separate boxes to get into the colo | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheh . sounds like they should really just make a tunnel in house and redirect the ports from your local machine . but hey it works. | |
| <NeilSimmons> apparently the colo facility insists that they access a gateway server first. good fun though, lots of clued people - including one who'd been to the BCF on Sunday and had chatted with Steve about MythTV! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well i got another ex Vox client who is moving to Ubuntu ! so good day for me yesterday . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> WOW ! .. that must have been a laugh then | |
| <LoudMouthMan> must have given you a few kudos points for hanging around with geeks.. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> for those not inthe know mr simmons is a ex sales droid who has moved to the tech side ! so lets all give him a warm welcome to the geek-side <grin> | |
| *** apokryphos- is now known as apokryphos | |
| <NeilSimmons> hehehe | |
| <NeilSimmons> who's the ex-Vox client then - anyone I know? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> marrek | |
| * NeilSimmons ponders.... | |
| <NeilSimmons> not a name i RECALL. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> interior redecoration and design | |
| <NeilSimmons> nice one. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah i thought so its another ubunut server and oss on the desktop win as well. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> So gazzak you planning to batten down the hatchlings then ? | |
| <NeilSimmons> good good! | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, poor cat just went flying across the garden | |
| <chaddy_> anyone know which app is responsible for the alt + F2 run dialogue? | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Gazzak .. stop feeding it curry then | |
| <NeilSimmons> that reminds me - I haven't seen mine since I came home! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> chaddy_ not me | |
| * NeilSimmons heads off to find pussy <fnarr fnarr> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> what curry ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh . | |
| <popey> LoudMouthMan: pong | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh just the man .. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> just a prv with you sir... | |
| <chaddy_> it doesn't seem to be metacity, nautilus, gnome-panel or gnome-settings-daemon... | |
| <NeilSimmons> found him! | |
| <NeilSimmons> Open a pouch of catfood, and he appears faster than a tornado in Kensall Green. . . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheeh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah I love how the BBC has to have some info about what a tornado is .. | |
| <popey> so jamesbrose machine is knackered then? | |
| <popey> lost /etc by the look of it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> popey . yeah just a bit . | |
| <popey> someone on hantslug had the same thing and was able to reconstruct it manually by copying over from another machine | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you really shouldnt tell him that rm -r --force /* is a performance enhancing move. | |
| * NeilSimmons wanders off to raid the fridge | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cue scene of neilsimmons jumping into the kitchen yelling Freeeze at the fridge ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> arf.... | |
| <NeilSimmons> drat - knew i'd forgotten something. Food, to be precise. | |
| <NeilSimmons> oh well - there's stuff in the storecupboard. | |
| <NeilSimmons> LMM, have you got a confirmed date for the BCF next month? | |
| * popey has installed Vista on a machine to see what all the fuss is about | |
| <X3N> i just had egg mornay brocoli and pasta | |
| <NeilSimmons> yum! | |
| <NeilSimmons> think it's gonna be pasta and pesto here. | |
| <X3N> i think i'm still hungry | |
| <NeilSimmons> eeek, poor popey - watch out for the tentacles! | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> ubuntu can learn from some of this - there are some nice touches in the UI | |
| <popey> but obviously loads of stuff under the bonnet is evil | |
| <LoudMouthMan> popey really what have you liked ? or was I being a GOM. | |
| <popey> i don't have the 3d stuff turned on | |
| <popey> well, wireless and suspend worked immediately | |
| <popey> as they did on later releases of ubunu | |
| <GazzaK> popey, can you install older applications? | |
| <popey> GazzaK: like? | |
| <GazzaK> ie mirc or xchat | |
| <popey> yeah, course | |
| <GazzaK> whenI played, xchat would not work | |
| <GazzaK> that was a while ago | |
| <GazzaK> been many betas since | |
| <popey> trying to find xchat | |
| <popey> which build would you use on windows? | |
| <GazzaK> erm, dunno | |
| <NeilSimmons> If I'd like to view a BBC News clip, it only gives the options of WMP (bleugh) or RP (double bleurgh). Has anyone any suggestions, please - Google wasn't particularly helpful other than one person suggesting RP9. . | |
| <popey> ahh, got it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> whats interesting to me is just how much my clients are saying 'Meh' to the idea of Vista . they want to strategy a plan for about 3yrs away on avg before looking at it. so that to me is a 5 yr strategy to implement vista client wide. | |
| *** chaddy_ is now known as chaddy | |
| <popey> ok | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but it will be interesting next the next few years to see just how easy it will be to get a XP pro machine from dell. | |
| <popey> 3 guesses for the first thing I installed on it? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Quake! | |
| <popey> no, although I have a few games here I could test | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay sorry silly answer. The Sims. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> VMware stuff ? | |
| <popey> sheesh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay one more guess . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> SAP stuff | |
| <popey> i don't use vmware at all, anywhere | |
| <popey> heh, no | |
| <popey> putty of course! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Doh ! | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and I take it it worked! | |
| <popey> haha | |
| <popey> vista can't find my audio card | |
| <popey> \o/ win for ubuntu | |
| <chaddy> s/win/victory | |
| <popey> something i really don't like - the screen flickers to black when a security dialog appears | |
| <popey> nasty | |
| <NeilSimmons> don't worry - got it. Used a FF plugin to download it and can view in VLC. | |
| <popey> hahah 4MB download for audio drivers | |
| <LoudMouthMan> popey are you playing with the RTM version? | |
| <popey> the full monty | |
| <popey> released version | |
| <popey> we have it at work | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nice . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i guess I shall wait for my MSDN subscription renewals then . | |
| <popey> also don't like that my fave key combo in XP (Windows key + M) no longer works | |
| * LoudMouthMan tries to remember where he last elft the sacrifical left arm for the price of it . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im still un impressed that 64bit Windows ( ala 64bit XP ) still has such a small amount of apps that are actually working with it . | |
| <NeilSimmons> I'm sure it's lovely - but what worries me is the way that users will be forced, sooner than they wish, to upgrade both hardware and OS. | |
| <popey> happens every time NeilSimmons | |
| <LoudMouthMan> NeilSimmons well its our patriotic duty to upgrade. otherwise the terrorists win ! | |
| * popey is no longer surprised by this | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but . as I said earlier some users are asking me about linux now as a alternaive and they are looking at Open Office more closely . | |
| <NeilSimmons> I agree - but this time, with 64-bit and DX10, it's so clearly a case of cartelling by MS with hardware manufacturers. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> certanily the client I was at today has settled fro windows desktop but all their admin apps are OSS where they can get them. e.g. Open Office. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I swear if you mention Treaty of Rome ... im gonna ding yah ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> Apparently Birmingham City Council are using more OSS apps too, including Open Office. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheh | |
| <NeilSimmons> I wouldn't say that, LMM (for fear of getting dinged) - but it's a forced upgrade path that requires more than just a RAM hike. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well the test we did at another Client ( id mention names but they dont want me to ! ) . where we swapped the Word Icon for OPen Office launching and the secretary never noticed she had changed apps. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> what will drive this is . GAMERS... | |
| <NeilSimmons> yep. Gamers want the latest and greatest. . . which means DirectX 10. . . which means a complete rig with Vista! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and Gamers will be closely marred to tech opinions within their own commuities which will result in positive memes about vista. | |
| <NeilSimmons> Kerchinggggg! | |
| <popey> GazzaK: XChat borks looking for msvcr71.dll :) | |
| <jamesbrose1> Hey guys | |
| <jamesbrose1> :[ | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Jamesbrose. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> 1 | |
| <jamesbrose1> Its pretty borked up | |
| <popey> jamesbrose1: do you have another machine? | |
| <jamesbrose1> Two harddrives | |
| <jamesbrose1> Just booted from the other | |
| <jamesbrose1> Hmmm | |
| <Alan_> hmm | |
| <Alan_> so this will be xchat under vista | |
| <jamesbrose1> Basically X wont start, because its not installed, because it wont install :] | |
| <popey> forget x - you need the basics! | |
| <popey> sounds like you lost all of /etc | |
| <LoudMouthMan> god that ALAN_ guy was annoying <grin> | |
| <jamesbrose1> No I didnt | |
| <jamesbrose1> its still there :] | |
| <popey> so which bits were missing? | |
| <jamesbrose1> I have no idea :] | |
| <jamesbrose1> The base system seems ok | |
| <jamesbrose1> it boots find | |
| <jamesbrose1> i can get into a tty | |
| <jamesbrose1> its just x and apt i think | |
| <jamesbrose1> I have taken backups | |
| <popey> what did you do to get to this broken state? | |
| <jamesbrose1> Delete quite a few files randomly | |
| <jamesbrose1> :D | |
| <popey> seriously? | |
| <jamesbrose1> but think is , i was quite carefull | |
| <jamesbrose1> it wasnt actually random | |
| <popey> you clearly weren't | |
| <LoudMouthMan> carefully ? random ? | |
| <jamesbrose1> I just deleted pretty much everything with vmware in it | |
| <popey> ! | |
| <jamesbrose1> no | |
| <popey> why not uninstall the package? | |
| <jamesbrose1> It borked, completely! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheh .. jamesbrose . let me give you the solid side to side man hug and say .. dude . .its barfed.. your going to have to commit to reinstalling . sorry . | |
| <jamesbrose1> So, Ive taken some backups, how can i restore them from the comand line? | |
| <popey> how did you backup? | |
| <jamesbrose1> You think? :[ | |
| <jamesbrose1> ages ago | |
| <jamesbrose1> the backup is on the other hd | |
| <popey> how? | |
| <jamesbrose1> eh? | |
| <popey> how did you backup? | |
| <anto9us> jamesbrose1, you can re-install the OS without formatting | |
| <jamesbrose1> oo | |
| <jamesbrose1> does that keep my home files? | |
| <anto9us> yes | |
| <jamesbrose1> great! | |
| <anto9us> just make sure you don't format | |
| <jamesbrose1> ...how? | |
| <anto9us> get alternate or server cd | |
| <jamesbrose1> Right | |
| <popey> the live cd can do it too | |
| <jamesbrose1> Ive got live cd | |
| <popey> there is a tickbox for formatting | |
| <anto9us> on partitioning, create your partitions and mount points but don't format | |
| <jamesbrose1> Right | |
| <jamesbrose1> I only have 2 partitions on that hd swap and the / | |
| <anto9us> I don't use livecd much, wasn't sure of that, thanks popey :) | |
| <popey> np | |
| <jamesbrose1> so i just enter them | |
| <jamesbrose1> and unclick format | |
| <jamesbrose1> and thats it? | |
| <GazzaK> can you, wow, and all this time I've removed the partitions and recreated them | |
| <anto9us> removing and recreating partitions has nothing to do with formatting | |
| <jamesbrose1> .. | |
| <anto9us> unless they're different type/size | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Gazzak ,, thats okay just remember all you need to do now is place your hand on your forehead. and say DOH ! | |
| <popey> jamesbrose1: is this edgy or dapper? | |
| <jamesbrose1> Im on dapper | |
| <jamesbrose1> the other hd is edgy | |
| * GazzaK bangs head on cat | |
| <jamesbrose1> (the one that borked) | |
| * popey boots a vm with a dapper live cd in the "drive" to get to this point | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gazzak . never thuogh id see the day with your face buried in a ... hmm not going there .. family channel and all that | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey gazzak I spent the day yesterday with a absolute label queen ... | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, lol | |
| <anto9us> ♪♫♬ pussy cat, pussy cat, I love you, yes, I dooooo ♬♫♪ | |
| <GazzaK> did you hit him? | |
| <popey> nice UTF-8 there anto9us | |
| <GazzaK> anto9us, awww, cute notes | |
| <jamesbrose1> sooo | |
| * popey hugs UTF-8 | |
| <popey> :þ | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Gazzak nah .. hes a real favourite client of mine . besides he doesnt try to hit on me ( which is a little insulting ! ) . | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <jamesbrose1> Won't it ask me to make a new "user" acount | |
| <jamesbrose1> and doing so overwrite all my home files? | |
| <popey> no | |
| <GazzaK> haha, well, you'd scare me too | |
| <popey> and yes | |
| <jamesbrose1> ? | |
| <popey> yes you will get a new account | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gazzak. when I first went to his place .. the house was like something from QEftSg . | |
| <popey> just create a dummy one | |
| <jamesbrose1> Right | |
| <jamesbrose1> then just log back into | |
| <jamesbrose1> the old one | |
| <popey> then when you boot to the hard disk make a new one of your old username and it wont overwrite anything | |
| <popey> you will need to create the user account | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, so is mine, but with a lot of geeky things about | |
| <popey> but creating the account does not screw /home/user | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gazzak <mwah> theres nothing scary about me .. i make Cpt Jack look positively normal ! | |
| <popey> jamesbrose1: when it gets to the install section to partition the disk - choose "manually edit partition table" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i sense popey creating a screencast ! | |
| <jamesbrose1> ok | |
| <popey> nah, cba | |
| <popey> just screenshots | |
| <LoudMouthMan> rotflmao .. cheers | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right later people .. | |
| <GazzaK> argh, a house down the road from me is either having a party with sad kareoke (sp) or are playing a music video (a bad one) very very loud! I can hear it in doors, and they are three or four houses away | |
| <GazzaK> see ya LMM | |
| <GazzaK> popey, how many tickets have you managed this week so far? | |
| <popey> lots :) | |
| <popey> https://launchpad.net/people/alanpope/+commentedtickets | |
| <popey> there, that will tell you | |
| <popey> jamesbrose1: http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/screenshots/Screenshot_QEMU_3_001 and http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/screenshots/Screenshot_QEMU_4 | |
| <popey> note that "reformat" is ticked and greyed out on mine because it's a brand new install, not an "over the top " one as you are doing | |
| <jamesbrose1> ok | |
| <jamesbrose1> so i just select HDD1 (the borked hd ) and HDD5 ( the swap i use) | |
| <jamesbrose1> Surely it will show some errors? | |
| <jamesbrose1> DO i just ignore them? | |
| <jamesbrose1> It seems simple enough | |
| <jamesbrose1> I have quite a few packages installed, they will be removed right? | |
| <jamesbrose1> Its ok, all i want is the Nvidia Drivers installed & Beryl | |
| <popey> what errors are you expecting? | |
| <popey> they wont be removed | |
| <popey> it wont install them though | |
| <popey> as far as the new install is concerned it will overwrite your applications. You will then need to manually update/upgrade and install any extra stuff | |
| <popey> it will be like a new install, but with crap kicking around from your old install | |
| <jamesbrose1> Ok | |
| <jamesbrose1> Thats fine | |
| <jamesbrose1> I will give it ago after its download and burned :p | |
| <jamesbrose1> Acutally | |
| <jamesbrose1> ive already got it | |
| <jamesbrose1> :P | |
| <jamesbrose1> And if that doesnt work, i will just back up everything on my hd | |
| <jamesbrose1> (home dir) | |
| <jamesbrose1> and then reinstall completely | |
| <jamesbrose1> http://rob-smith.co.uk/computers/popey.com.png | |
| <jamesbrose1> amazing :D | |
| <popey> thats a little out of date | |
| <popey> i should update that | |
| <jamesbrose1> Still... | |
| <jamesbrose1> What connection do you have? | |
| <GazzaK> popey, how do you produce the net diagrams? | |
| <popey> i don't | |
| <popey> my mate rob does | |
| <popey> jamesbrose1: standard adsl | |
| <jamesbrose1> waa | |
| <popey> rob is a windows monkey with a copy of visio | |
| <jamesbrose1> You run 4 servers on standard adsl? | |
| <popey> yeah, i have 8 IP addresses | |
| <jamesbrose1> right | |
| <popey> not all usable of course | |
| <jamesbrose1> How long does it take to assign, like a server to a domain name? | |
| <jamesbrose1> One day, i want to learn how to do it | |
| <GazzaK> @pity rob and his visio | |
| * Ubugtu strangles rob and his visio with a doohicky mouse cord | |
| <jamesbrose1> ahh! | |
| <popey> jamesbrose1: once you have a domain you can do that kind of thing in minutes | |
| <jamesbrose1> SO slow burning | |
| <jamesbrose1> Seriously? | |
| <jamesbrose1> I have a domain :] | |
| <anto9us> popey, they do a nice router in maplin for £30 that would replace the debian machine, modem and router | |
| <popey> i keep meaning to replace that debian box | |
| <popey> but its so flexible | |
| <anto9us> yeah, these ADSL routers are, set one up for a colleague the other day, was amazed at the configurability of it | |
| <anto9us> it is actually bridge as well as a router, can map to hardware ports as well as addresses | |
| <jamesbrose1> yay its done - wish me luck guys :p | |
| <anto9us> good luck | |
| <jamesbrose1> bleh | |
| <jamesbrose> ok guys | |
| <jamesbrose> Popey, it says | |
| <jamesbrose> ! No Root File system | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about No Root File system - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <jamesbrose> :S | |
| <jamesbrose> :( | |
| <jamesbrose> Anybody? | |
| <jamesbrose> dang | |
| <jamesbrose> Its jamesrose :] | |
| <jamesbrose> I took a screen shot http://i17.tinypic.com/4d1r51c.png | |
| <jamesbrose> hello? | |
| <binary2k2> jamesbrose: what happens if you just click next? | |
| <binary2k2> or forward :p | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im about to go to my office but james rose you have to specify that hda1 will have the mountpoint of / | |
| <LoudMouthMan> exit | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ugger <grin> | |
| <GazzaK> ping popey | |
| <popey> pong | |
| * popey goes to get a bag of haribo | |
| <GazzaK> just found (owww, haribo) out that the Chris bloke for the colchester.lug is like 15 - that might be why theres no pub meets then! | |
| <GazzaK> oh, and I think i'm moving on the 15th :-) | |
| * GazzaK steals a few of popey's haribo | |
| * GazzaK steals LoudMouthMan's beer | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmm okay well thats not beer ! | |
| <GazzaK> eeek | |
| <GazzaK> did you get caught short? | |
| * popey wanders back to the lounge | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no . but ive had a beer. I drink green tea in the evenings <grin> | |
| <popey> i really should put wireless in | |
| <popey> the den is pretty much the farthest point from the lounge | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmm here is my den... http://butlershouse.co.uk/photos/RealWorld | |
| <GazzaK> lol, most blokes have tools and stuff in their sheds | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Gazzak . its my hovel and theres always at least one tool in the shed ! bad dum pum ! thanks ill be here all week 1 | |
| * popey isn't sure he has photos of his den | |
| <GazzaK> oh dear | |
| <popey> it's a 13 by 13 bedroom really | |
| <GazzaK> @pity LoudMouthMan | |
| * Ubugtu pours hot grits down the front of LoudMouthMan's pants | |
| <popey> with no bed :) | |
| <popey> just a shitload of computers :) | |
| <GazzaK> my den was under my stairs | |
| <popey> get back under the stairs gimp! | |
| <GazzaK> the telly is there now | |
| <GazzaK> the computer is in a box | |
| * jayteeuk commandeered the box room when he moved in with his Mrs. | |
| <GazzaK> I'm going for a small control area (wifi router and nas box) and the rest is laptops and wired mac mini and xbox360 | |
| <GazzaK> so no more "computer central" | |
| <jayteeuk> Hmmmm... I'm going for building my own rack. :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well ive had a few offices but I always make a mess in them . | |
| <jayteeuk> Then gradually switching what PCs I have in desktop cases into rackmount cases. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so small office means no mess means focus instead of creative time distractions. | |
| <GazzaK> I am however thinking of "borrowing" the small rack from work and building it into the hallway cupboard | |
| <jayteeuk> You can get the vertical rails from Maplin. | |
| <GazzaK> I have a nice mini rack, with doors etc | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you know we really dont need guys saying they have a nice rack | |
| <jayteeuk> I think they're about PRIVMSG #ubuntu-uk ::D | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, shaadup you cutie | |
| <jayteeuk> Mmmmm... time for a drink, methinks. | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh, good evening, by the way. :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes im about to heaad back for another tea . | |
| <jayteeuk> Yes. I was lurking. | |
| * GazzaK is dwinking red wine | |
| * jayteeuk pours a glass of port. | |
| <GazzaK> popey - any news from your luggy mates :-) | |
| <jayteeuk> You know that bloke I was helping out with getting the install CD to run earlier? | |
| <jayteeuk> He was on MSN and I was acting as conduit because he couldn't get on IRC. | |
| <jayteeuk> Is there a way to get that recognised in support of an Ubuntu membership application? | |
| <jayteeuk> It's small fry compared to popey's 43 squillion ticket comments, but it's a start. :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jayteeuk its a good question . if you can show other means by which you are contributing then you will find it easier to compile a membership application. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Since the community council will be meeting on the 12th I am certainly hoping between jono, popey and neil simmons I will have suitable support <grin> | |
| <NeilSimmons> oops - did I hear my name being mentioned? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nah go back to sleep | |
| <jayteeuk> Well I'm also trying to provide feedback on a couple of open bugs and hope to be able to get involved in the development of NetworkManager. | |
| * NeilSimmons pops up, like Zebedee | |
| <jayteeuk> Boing! | |
| * LoudMouthMan refuses to be florence.. because he did it last time and the slingbacks were a killer 1 | |
| <jayteeuk> But I need to do a fair bit of reading really before I'll be able to make a meaningful contribution to that. | |
| <jayteeuk> I need to get to understand the interaction between network-manager, gnome-system-tools/system-tools-backends, resolvconf, guessnet, laptop-net and so on. | |
| <jayteeuk> Not forgetting of course wpasupplicant, the VPN plugins, PPP.... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> bingo ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheh sorry ! | |
| <jayteeuk> You're welcome. ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> You're right though, there's a bewildering number of packages involved. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heh Jayteeuk cheers for having a sense of humour ! yeah its a bit like buzzword bingo .. how does it go neilsimmons? | |
| <jayteeuk> We actually used to play that in our "Professional Services kick-off" meetings. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oooh new Hak5 is out .. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sorry its a shiny thing | |
| <NeilSimmons> ooooo. . . | |
| * NeilSimmons adopts Robin Williams voice. , | |
| <jayteeuk> My head's shiny, does that get an 'oooh' as well? | |
| * jayteeuk reminds himself to do a hackergotchi. | |
| <NeilSimmons> erm. . excuse me, Sir. . . . BUT if the VP's such a VIP shouldn't we keep the DV on the QT coz if it leaks to the VC he'll end up MIA and we'll all be on KPs! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> /me shakes head: its not like he even memorised it , I hate eidectic memories. | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> remind me to ignore them ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> Just call me Lord Nikon. . . ouch, bad movie reference. | |
| <NeilSimmons> which reminds me - anyone seen heliosuk? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> not in a while | |
| * NeilSimmons looks under the couch | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mind you hes not Ubuntdude | |
| <NeilSimmons> yeah but no but . . . I'm not going _in_there_, I don't like it, it's scary. . . . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe . dont know what you mean 1 | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> guess we will have to convert him then he can come here . | |
| <NeilSimmons> good idea. | |
| <NeilSimmons> Oh $DEITY - she's put Eastenders on! | |
| <NeilSimmons> Aaaaargh! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh to have a hovel to hide out in . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so . actually i been missind DSAS lately 2 | |
| <NeilSimmons> yeah - could head up to the Batcave, I spose. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Neuro | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sorry > hey Neuro|irssi | |
| <neuro|irssi> evenin | |
| * neuro|irssi bitchslaps #fedora | |
| <neuro|irssi> stupid chan restrictions | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so neuro how you been other than bitchslappin the beast of fautley | |
| <LoudMouthMan> what did you do ? | |
| <neuro|irssi> fine | |
| <neuro|irssi> s'hardly filbert's fault! | |
| <neuro|irssi> what did i do? | |
| <neuro|irssi> nothing | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehehe hes usually up to something ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> fautley? how's he stayed out of prison? <snigger> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh theres a quorum of those who know the fautley/filbert | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well neil first he stopped working with people who cant keep a promise. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh did i say that <grin> | |
| *** neuro|irssi is now known as neuro_ | |
| <NeilSimmons> I seem to remember those inDUHviduals. . . | |
| <GazzaK> hic | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe nuff said it cost them enough but it was a shame for Fautley | |
| <NeilSimmons> yeah. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gazzak your back | |
| <GazzaK> I feel dwunk | |
| <NeilSimmons> then stop dwinkin! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey neuro_ you seen filbert around much lately ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I think he needs a dwink of wah wah | |
| <GazzaK> but it's nice wine | |
| <neuro_> i've not spoken to him for a while | |
| <GazzaK> and he will drink it if I don't (he=bf) | |
| <neuro_> i usually catch him on msn tbh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes if I remember you shared a certain employer | |
| <NeilSimmons> he was a laugh to work with... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe well he survived the Muppets with the rest of us. | |
| <NeilSimmons> true. | |
| <NeilSimmons> did you stay in touch with PG? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nah he was untouchable because of the contract so he eventually moved to somerset. | |
| <NeilSimmons> oh, right. | |
| <NeilSimmons> did I mention I met one of the 3rd-line guys today - who'd discussed MythTV with SteveD on Sunday? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> to be honest Fautley was the only one who if he had stayed would have lent any credible intellect and innovation . I was happy he moved on it seriously reduced a competive risk. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you did | |
| <NeilSimmons> Fautley has serious Clue - haven't really seen or heard from him since Linux World a year ago! | |
| <neuro_> last time i saw him was LRL | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well he was busy making TH wear a RH at LR over the WE | |
| <NeilSimmons> <grin> | |
| <neuro_> unnecessary acronym overload alert | |
| * neuro_ sounds the klaxons | |
| <LoudMouthMan> go neil | |
| <NeilSimmons> not again! | |
| <NeilSimmons> surely not! | |
| * GazzaK hides | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe yo uknow its on the tip of your fingers. | |
| <NeilSimmons> <voice="RobinWilliams"> | |
| <NeilSimmons> If the VP's such a VIP shouldn't we keep the DV on the QT coz if it leaks to the VC he'll end up MIA and we'll all be on KPs | |
| <NeilSimmons> </voice> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah Fautley joined us down the chinese all you can eat .. and barely ate ! . but anyway . it was a hoot since I had no idea whom TH was . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah you know you feel better now. | |
| <neuro_> NeilSimmons: it was a joke :) | |
| <NeilSimmons> hehehe | |
| <GazzaK> TH? RH? LR? WE? | |
| * GazzaK whacks LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> neuro_ . so was that <grin> . its like a thing with him .. | |
| <neuro_> GazzaK: thanks :) | |
| <neuro_> tho TH was the only one i missed | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Ted Heagar, RedHat, Lugradio, and Weekend | |
| <neuro_> ah, rev ted | |
| <neuro_> and it's Red Hat | |
| <neuro_> ^ pet peeve | |
| <GazzaK> @pity 10 LoudMouthMan for using Acromininonsssss | |
| * Ubugtu holds LoudMouthMan to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails for using Acromininonsssss | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you know ive never even noticed. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey .. i didnt say the safe word. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> its bananas | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay .. go 1 | |
| <NeilSimmons> GazzaK appears to be challenging Gollum! | |
| <GazzaK> i'll banana you | |
| <NeilSimmons> we hatessss acronymsssss | |
| <NeilSimmons> <grin> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no we dont . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well we do | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but then again we dont do much | |
| <GazzaK> I'm drwumnkl leave me alown | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh neuro_ have you got the AUP done yet ? | |
| <neuro_> nope, and it's not an AUP | |
| <NeilSimmons> awwwww, poor GazzaK | |
| <neuro_> the doc will happen soon | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Gazzak, i told yo uno bannanananaananaa .. i cant ever stop spelling them | |
| * NeilSimmons makes coffee | |
| <GazzaK> @pity 30 for TLA's | |
| * Ubugtu splats for TLA's with a large hammer | |
| <neuro_> coffee? pff | |
| <GazzaK> eekk | |
| * neuro_ has root beer and marlboro \o/ | |
| <GazzaK> @pity 30 LoudMouthMan for TLA's | |
| * Ubugtu splats LoudMouthMan with a large hammer for TLA's | |
| <NeilSimmons> got to help GazzaK sober up! <grin> | |
| <neuro_> for TLA's what | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I think that was irony . | |
| <neuro_> betcha it wasn't :) | |
| <NeilSimmons> is that like steely? | |
| <GazzaK> I forgot the LoudMouthMan bit | |
| <neuro_> and bronzy | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah well . | |
| <NeilSimmons> or aluminiuminiuminium. . . y? | |
| <GazzaK> . | |
| <neuro_> i don't believe baldrick ever said that :) | |
| * LoudMouthMan calls the pun coppers | |
| <GazzaK> hehe, my cat lieks red wine | |
| <neuro_> hmm, 50p carton of milk vs 5 quid bottle of shiraz ... | |
| <neuro_> i know what my cat would get | |
| <neuro_> regardless if likes and dislikes :> | |
| <neuro_> ... if i had a cat, of course | |
| <NeilSimmons> don't give your cat a taste for red, GazzaK. . . . you know what cats are like for demanding! | |
| <jayteeuk> What, you have to *feed* cats? | |
| <NeilSimmons> yep. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cats are just women in cheap fur coats after all | |
| <jayteeuk> Damn, no wonder mine are always round my feet. | |
| <NeilSimmons> to dogs, for preference. | |
| <GazzaK> she is drunk too | |
| <jayteeuk> I thought they were just being friendly. | |
| <GazzaK> she just fell over | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger> | |
| <GazzaK> is it cruel to get a moggy drunk? | |
| <NeilSimmons> only if you take advantage. | |
| <jayteeuk> Cool? Yeah. :) | |
| <GazzaK> O_O | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh, cruel? Mebbe. :) | |
| <GazzaK> pussy drunk, yaaaay | |
| <NeilSimmons> if you wake up in the morning with a partially shaved cat with a stunned expression, you know you went too far. | |
| <jayteeuk> Someone had to. | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <GazzaK> shite it's 10:30 and I have a very important thingy to do tmorroa | |
| <GazzaK> for workiy | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well i have a BNI thing tommorow | |
| <NeilSimmons> I don't! | |
| <GazzaK> shit my typing is poop | |
| <GazzaK> BNI? | |
| <jayteeuk> Would you mind not making me laugh out loud? It makes it more difficult to convince The Wife I'm trying to learn Python. | |
| <GazzaK> British Nuclear Insittititytute? | |
| <NeilSimmons> hehehe - another morning leaving at 8am.....I _like_ this new job. | |
| <neuro_> jayteeuk: tell her it's Monty Python | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe | |
| <popey> is there ANYONE left that doesn't know what BNI is!? :) | |
| <GazzaK> meee | |
| <neuro_> popey: me! | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <GazzaK> my cat? | |
| <popey> shut it you | |
| <neuro_> cat's don't need to know shit | |
| * popey goes back to sleep | |
| <LoudMouthMan> wel im not telling go read my blog . | |
| * GazzaK inserts cork into popey | |
| <LoudMouthMan> some one should | |
| <neuro_> just where the next meal is coming from | |
| <neuro_> and where to sleep | |
| <popey> "cat's" you say? | |
| <neuro_> bugger | |
| <NeilSimmons> we're not going back to cats - mine is looking at me suspiciously at the moment. . . | |
| * neuro_ slaps his keyboard | |
| <neuro_> i'm still getting used to this dell thing | |
| <GazzaK> shityness, I gotta be up at 6:30am | |
| <neuro_> i can type quickly as usual, but i'm still making the odd mistake | |
| <popey> \o/ no work tomorrow | |
| * neuro_ wishes he had a type 5 <-> ps2/usb converter | |
| <jayteeuk> I'll probably roll out of bed at 8:30 to start at 9:00. | |
| <GazzaK> better thn me, I can't focuss on this ere keyboard joibbie | |
| <NeilSimmons> up at half seven for a 9am start here. | |
| <neuro_> i type faster when i'm drunk for some reason | |
| <neuro_> and i type at ~ 110wpm as it is | |
| <NeilSimmons> touchtyping is a wonderful thing! | |
| <GazzaK> so dop I but I make no sence at all | |
| <neuro_> self taught | |
| <LoudMouthMan> arent most geeks ? | |
| <neuro_> probabl | |
| <neuro_> y | |
| <neuro_> tsk | |
| <GazzaK> BANANAS | |
| <NeilSimmons> I always get funny responses when I say I learned to type in the Navy | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <GazzaK> YMCA | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah army&navy ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheheh | |
| * LoudMouthMan ducks | |
| <GazzaK> soooo. which one were you? | |
| <neuro_> it's fun to type in the Y-M-C-AAAAA ... | |
| * NeilSimmons gets the ClueBat | |
| <NeilSimmons> I had the sailors uniform, GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> the army blokey, the sailor boy (rharr) or the other thingys? | |
| <neuro_> i bet popey was the construction worker | |
| <NeilSimmons> coz I woz a proper one! | |
| <GazzaK> sailor boy, awwww, cute? | |
| <GazzaK> got pictures? | |
| <GazzaK> :-) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> goes down deeper, stays down longer , comes up wetter ? wasnt that it ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> yep - normally with an addendum about smelling a bit odd. | |
| <GazzaK> is it true what they say about navy boys? | |
| <NeilSimmons> what do 'they' say? | |
| <GazzaK> that they sail :-) | |
| <GazzaK> eerm | |
| * GazzaK hides | |
| <NeilSimmons> not all of them sail. . . I went _underwater_ personally. | |
| <NeilSimmons> I dived. | |
| <GazzaK> really, wow | |
| <NeilSimmons> nah -boring really. Lots of sitting around doing nothing. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah the git actually passed the physicals.. me . they dont let short sighted asthmatic dwarves fly so .. meh ! | |
| <GazzaK> haha | |
| <NeilSimmons> but I have known instances of what 'they' say happening....most memorably an incident involving the Surgeon Commander of HMS Torbay. . . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> learned to type in the navy .. im going to remember that one . its going to be my new expression of explanation ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well the torbay , it had to , it just rhymes with ..... day ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> the docking crew were all singing <voice="OtisRedding"> Sitting On The Doc of Torbay </voice> | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> trying to get my big end awayyyyyyyyyy | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yep snigger worthy | |
| <GazzaK> when my mum was in the barmy, she had a best freiend ask her out :-) | |
| <NeilSimmons> URL!! | |
| <NeilSimmons> s'nearly bedtime..... | |
| <GazzaK> my mum's like 58 years old you granny fanicer :p | |
| <GazzaK> (she was 20 at this time thou) | |
| <NeilSimmons> hence the request for a URL!! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh that reminds me .. neuro_ how come im in your contacts. flickr wise ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey i know some stuning 60yr olds. | |
| <NeilSimmons> hah - you see that, GazzaK, they're talking across us! | |
| <NeilSimmons> hehehe | |
| <GazzaK> she once walked into the dorm with her best mate and her other frined going for it :-) she was liek "oh, okay, see ya later" | |
| <neuro_> LoudMouthMan: um, because i added you? | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, I'm off... time to move Junior Senior into his own bed. | |
| <NeilSimmons> <grin> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah I just couldnt work out 1) where you found me link and 2) who you were at the tim e1 | |
| <neuro_> what, you didn't equate neuro here with neuro there? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> see you jayteeuk | |
| <jayteeuk> Seeya tomorrow folks. | |
| <jayteeuk> ttfn | |
| <LoudMouthMan> NO ! cause it was like 6.30am when i read the mail . | |
| <neuro_> no excuse :) | |
| <NeilSimmons> he's never at his best that early - by 0630 he's only had about 4 coffees. | |
| <neuro_> you posted a link to one of your photos somewhere, probably in #lugradio or on your blog | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i did ? oh hell yeah ! i did . | |
| <NeilSimmons> cya Jaytee | |
| * GazzaK tickles LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dude I was standing up when you did that 1 | |
| * GazzaK whacks LoudMouthMan upside the head with a smelly haggis | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehehe that wasnt a haggis ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> anyway .. | |
| <NeilSimmons> now _that's_ the treatment he deserves! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so yeah I was like um who the hell is this .. | |
| <NeilSimmons> right - crash time. Nighty-night, folks. thanks for the entertainment :-) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cioa neil . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dont forget to get you blog up dated now . | |
| * GazzaK snogs NeilSimmons goodnight | |
| <NeilSimmons> already done today | |
| <NeilSimmons> ?me blushes | |
| * NeilSimmons blushes | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sheeh he doesnt usually go for tongues on a first date. | |
| <GazzaK> awww, so cute | |
| <LoudMouthMan> especially in his mouth ! | |
| <NeilSimmons> <snigger> that's a whole other story....laters all. | |
| <GazzaK> mwhwhwhwhhaaa | |
| <LoudMouthMan> man theres times you learn about a old friend .. when you shouldnt. | |
| * GazzaK scouts out for another victim | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, what? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gazzak . no never mind <grin> | |
| <GazzaK> no no no , tell uncle Gary | |
| <LoudMouthMan> whom I ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> never . not if you stripp.. wait a minute.. im not falling for that one . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so anyway . neuro_ are you joining us in the world of ubuntu or are you multi homing then ? | |
| <GazzaK> O_O | |
| *** tsmithe` is now known as tsmithe | |
| <neuro_> wha? | |
| <GazzaK> dunno, it was him | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh i c . let me reframe are you planning on gettting more involved in this here local team thingie or are you just hanging out ? | |
| <neuro_> i'm on the en_GB loco team | |
| <neuro_> how much more involved do you want me to get? | |
| <GazzaK> hey, I do hope you are not pimping me out here | |
| <LoudMouthMan> how much time can we have ? | |
| <GazzaK> depend how much you are paying | |
| <GazzaK> oh, sorry | |
| <GazzaK> oops | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe gazzak im asking neuro | |
| * GazzaK wanders off to feed the cat more wine | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right im offski ..laters people. | |
| <jamesbrose> Hey guys | |
| <jamesbrose> Ive got two problems, or quires. Before I re-formated I had a little nvidia configuration app thing in system tools, and its not there anymore, even though nvidia drivers are installed. Another thing, how do i change the default resolution at startup and shutdown? | |
| <chaddy> aptitude search nvidia for the first | |
| <chaddy> for the second you need to change the order the resolutions appear in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | |
| <chaddy> first is default | |
| <jamesbrose> Hmm | |
| <chaddy> or do you mean the console resolution? | |
| <jamesbrose> The Nvidia settings wants to remove nvidia-glx, is that oK? | |
| <jamesbrose> no, when i start up the boot screen | |
| <jamesbrose> is the wrong resolution, so my monitor wont let me see i | |
| <jamesbrose> t | |
| <jamesbrose> until i get to the login screen | |
| <jamesbrose> same with shuttting down | |
| <chaddy> /boot/grub/menu.lst add a kernel option vga=791 is 1024x768 | |
| <chaddy> iirc | |
| <jamesbrose> like that? | |
| <jamesbrose> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hdd3 ro quiet splash vga=791 | |
| <chaddy> aye | |
| <jamesbrose> Ok, and what about this nvidia settings thing? | |
| <chaddy> what about it? | |
| <jamesbrose> It wants to remove nvidia-glx | |
| <chaddy> if it conflicts with nvidia-glx presumably you have to decide which you wnat more | |
| <jamesbrose> shall i let it? | |
| <jamesbrose> what is nvidia-glx? :P | |
| <chaddy> if it breaks you know how to put it back in, right? | |
| <jamesbrose> Yeah | |
| <jamesbrose> How do I enable GLX in edgy with beryl then? | |
| <funkyHat> Anyone else having problems with apt-get and the key for archive.ubuntu.com? :( | |
| <anto9us> I use gb.archive.ubuntu.com | |
| <chaddy> funkyHat: the key server might be borken, happened for a while a couple of months ago | |
| <funkyHat> Hm | |
| <funkyHat> So would changing my sources.list to gb.archive.... fix the problem? | |
| <funkyHat> :S according to sources.list I -am- using gb.archive.ubuntu.com |
