<JKnife> no..

<JKnife> it is REALLY fast

<JKnife> i guess that is how the game is ment to be..

<ellioTb> i could crap better gfx and gameplay in my toilet

<JKnife> =\

<ellioTb> lol

<ellioTb> dave chappelle is on inside the actor's studio

<BSDnux> does anyone know how to find out what channels the mixer supports? i doN't get any sound in tvtime and it seems to be a problem with the line-in settings, when i select "line" as the input source in xfce4-mixer, it always jumps back to "mic"...

<JKnife> poo.. floor 25

<ellioTb> pysol = much better game

<JKnife> =\

<maxamillion> w00t floor 7!!!

<JKnife> XD

<ellioTb> i gave up on block 2

<maxamillion> yeah, pysol should be included

<ellioTb> fo sho!

<ellioTb> frozen bubble and supertux also

<maxamillion> emn

<maxamillion> amen*

<maxamillion> jeebus they need to slow the acceleration in xjump

<maxamillion> ellioTb: install xjump

<ellioTb> i did, removed it immediatly

<cellofellow> frozen-bubble!!!!!!

<maxamillion> whuy?!@?!

<ellioTb> cause it was way too fast, couldn't do anything

<ellioTb> plus i have these tiny lil notebook arrows

<maxamillion> w00t 16 floors!!!

<maxamillion> ellioTb: ahhh, the curse of the notebook

<ellioTb> i know

* maxamillion really needs to be coding

<ellioTb> but, it wrecks enemy territory on here

<JKnife> there is also sdljump

<ellioTb> is that not as crappy

<JKnife> which uses sdl and can be rendered in OpenGL

* cellofellow has a notebook-style keyboard and touchpad on his desktop.

<maxamillion> JKnife: what's it like?

<JKnife> same thing.. but better gfx

<maxamillion> rock

<JKnife> and has a fps limiter!

<ellioTb> gonna have to check that out instead

* cellofellow will brb rebooting

<ellioTb> i think dave chappelle is high on this show, or drunk

<ellioTb> its hillarious

<JKnife> o.O

<JKnife> XJump was limited to 40FPS

<JKnife> so.. it is ment to be that fast

<ellioTb> thats way too fast

<maxamillion> that's awesome

* kalikiana just recovered from an X freeze

<ellioTb> sdl is doing software rendering, hrmm

<ellioTb> nm, there it goes

<JKnife> Options

<maxamillion> i like xjump a little better .... its a simple game, no need for the flashy-ness

<JKnife> found it i take it?

<JKnife> maxamillion: yeah

<ellioTb> wow, even sdl is amazingly fast

<ellioTb> way too hard with this mini-keys perhaps

<JKnife> told ya it was ment to be that fast

<ellioTb> especially trying to press up arrow while moving

<JKnife> use space to jump in XJump

<JKnife> maxamillion: i think this one can be included.. XD

<cellofellow> huh. usplash didn't work but I think it's all fixable.

<JKnife> "Size: 17922" <-- and size isn't a problem

<cellofellow> something about size 1024

<JKnife> neither are the deps "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1), libx11-6, libxaw7, libxpm4, libxt6"

<JKnife> "The epitome of addictive and pointless games," <-- HAHA

<maxamillion> lol

* maxamillion installs it

<maxamillion> nvm

<JKnife> that is XJump..

<ellioTb> sudoku is throwed too

<maxamillion> lol copyright 1997

<cellofellow> maxamillion: did we make BSDnux leave cause we weren't acting like a support commmunity? Like you said b4?

<maxamillion> cellofellow: i dunno ... did he ask a question?

<ellioTb> you ran him away, he is running back to XP

<ellioTb> jerks

<cellofellow> about the line-in on his sound card.

<cellofellow> I had no Idea so kept my mouth shut.

<JKnife> =\ i do not have a sound card.. so i just started ignoring those questions =\

<ellioTb> i have ADD, and couldn't read his paragraph question

<maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah, i think we did run him off ... i didn't notice the question, i was coding ... sound cards can be ubuntu issues so if i don't know, i reference that we share the same ubuntu-base and tell them they might be able to get help in #ubuntu

<cellofellow> lol. excuses excuses. naughty naughty.

<ellioTb> yeah, i think cellofellow or some1 pointed him at ubuntu

<ellioTb> thats usually what i do if no one knows the answer and its not a xubuntu specific question

<maxamillion> me too :)

<cellofellow> yeah. hardware is very unspecific. Maybe there should be an #ubuntu-hardware channel for low-level stuff like that.

<JKnife> or #IHaveNoClue

<cellofellow> lol

<maxamillion> or #googleItYouMoron

<JKnife> #RTFM

<JKnife> 19:20 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You do not have channel operator access to [#rtfm]

<JKnife> 19:20 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#RTFM] Read The Fscking Manual

<maxamillion> 90% of things i help people with in here is simply me googling what they say and telling them what to do because when you just send people links they get all scared and ask a million questions that are answered on the page

<JKnife> haha

<JKnife> it is a dead channel

<maxamillion> www.googleityoumoron.com ftw

<maxamillion> brb work stuffs

<JKnife> hee ok

<cellofellow> yeah, I've noticed you do that with me too.

* cellofellow should google first, but he likes this place.

<ellioTb> you know you can do google up to 35 o's, and its been bought

<ellioTb> like www.gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogle.com

<kalikiana> i now have my own gnomefiles.org page :)

<cellofellow> goooooooooooooogle.com redirects?

<maxsoft> can I install Evolution in xub ?

<cellofellow> yeah, just watch out it's big.

<maxsoft> well. thank you :)

<JKnife> yse sylpheen-claws-gtk2

<JKnife> sylpheed*

<kalikiana> sylpheed-claws rocks

<cellofellow> or thunderbird.

<cellofellow> or gmail ftw!

<JKnife> pfft.. ThunderBird is bloated

<JKnife> cellofellow: =\ i use gmail through sylpheed

<kalikiana> thunderbird takes time to load... but it's nice

<cellofellow> I use gmail, with firefox and greasemonkey, and gcal, and gdocs, and the whole suite.

* JKnife shuns the antibloat spell on cellofellow

<cellofellow> shuns?

<JKnife> www.googleityoumoron.com

<cellofellow> but that's just not the context I'd expect the word shun is all. I don't know what you meen.

* cellofellow reboots again

<maxsoft> so... do you think Claws it's more light than Evolution ?

<JKnife> a LOT more

<JKnife> and it has cool plugins

<maxsoft> and it's coolest of Thunderbird ?

<JKnife> much cooler

<JKnife> try it if you do not like it.. uninstall it

<JKnife> be sure to get the gtk2 version

<maxsoft> thank you :)

<ellioTb> know what sucks about pysol? when you win, the cards don't do anything fun

<JKnife> what sucks about ellioTb? he complains too much

<ellioTb> what sucks about JKnife? he is a grumpy old creepy man

<TheSheep> ellioTb: yeah, they should jump to your throat instead

<ellioTb> oh SNAP!

<JKnife> old?

<ellioTb> jump to my throat?

<TheSheep> ellioTb: the cards

<TheSheep> ellioTb: and have sharp edges

<JKnife> i am old?

<JKnife> omg.. when did that happen?

<ellioTb> heh, just kidding JKnife

<TheSheep> JKnife: quiet grampa

<JKnife> :'(

<JKnife> wait.. TheSheep aint ya older then meh?

<TheSheep> JKnife: only physically :P

<ellioTb> right when i said that, the cards started a lil dance

<TheSheep> ellioTb: move your speakers a little farther from your monitor screen...

<RememberPOL> .nvidia beta

<RememberPOL> !nvidia

<ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto

<RememberPOL> !nvidia 9742

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia 9742 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<ellioTb> TheSheep, no monitor

<ellioTb> !ask us RememberPOL

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask us RememberPOL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<maxamillion> floor 22!!!!!

<ellioTb> hey maxamillion!

<JKnife> maxamillion: i am on 25.. hurry catch up!

<ellioTb> maxamillion!

<maxamillion> JKnife: grrrr

<cellofellow> yay! my system is (almost) at its former glory.

<maxamillion> ellioTb: ?

<TheSheep> maxamillion: wasn't it floor 23?

<ellioTb> maxamillion, go freakin code dude!

<ellioTb> you know why that game is fun? cause anything besides doing coding for school is more fun

<ellioTb> lol

<maxamillion> ellioTb: :(

<ellioTb> maxamillion, just trying to help

<JKnife> ellioTb: no.. it is just fun...

<maxamillion> ellioTb: i know ... thanks

<ellioTb> cause i distract myself from school all the time too, lol

<maxamillion> ellioTb: i am actaully about to get off work ...

<ellioTb> nice

<ellioTb> gonna feel so good to sleep in tomorrow

<maxsoft> JKnife: wich is the name in Synaptic for Claws ?

<maxsoft> (thank you)

<JKnife> maxsoft: sylpheed-claws-gtk2

<maxsoft> :)

<maxamillion> what is claws?

<JKnife> a mail client

<maxamillion> ah

<JKnife> really lightweight

<maxamillion> cool cool

<JKnife> uses gtk2

<JKnife> supports pgpmime and pgpinline with plugins..

<cellofellow> it's in DSL, tells you how lightweight. though dsl uses the gtk1 version.

<ellioTb> they made a beryl boot dvd?

<ellioTb> isn't that old news?

* JKnife ignores ellioTb

<TheSheep> ellioTb: about 2 years old :P

<maxamillion> ellioTb: i never heard of it ... doesn't mean much though

<maxamillion> case and point

<cellofellow> how do you get a livecd to run beryl? that'

<JKnife> wasn't it built off of gentoo?

<maxamillion> the real cool thing is project looking glass

<ellioTb> i still get happy when i see linux stuff all over digg

<cellofellow> s just sking for trouble.

<JKnife> maxamillion: cept it is java =\

<ellioTb> and all over google news

<ellioTb> just blowin up

<maxamillion> just waiting for them to figure out how to make it usably fast

<maxamillion> JKnife: what's wrong with java?

<JKnife> maxamillion: java is wrong with java

<cellofellow> it's fake with the google stuff, the log what you search and then give you news about stuff you like, I think... It's nice, but annoying sometimes.

<ellioTb> java is terrible, but a LOT better than before

<cellofellow> watch, over the next year or so it will either die cause it's open source, or become awesome.

<globe> hello all

<JKnife> hi globe

<JKnife> globe: install XJump and play it

<ellioTb> multi-platform is nice, speed and memory management still pretty bad

* JKnife is gonna tell that to anyone that joins

<ellioTb> i think the memory stuff has gotten better since i programmed in it

<globe> lol...is this a creation of yours?

<JKnife> no

<JKnife> fun little game

<globe> ...it'd have to be l8r when I get home from work

<ellioTb> globe, do you hate life? if you do, install it

* globe :-)

<JKnife> ellioTb: hush up... it is a good game

<ellioTb> lol

* cellofellow is just gonna have to install stuff as he goes that he remembers he had and "needs".

<cellofellow> I can't remember.

<JKnife> :(

<globe> how many floors you get JKnife

<JKnife> 25

<cellofellow> At least my computer still works.

<maxamillion> 22 here

<maxamillion> i gotta go

<JKnife> ok.. c ya

<maxamillion> laters

* cellofellow will brb

* JKnife heads out for a smoke

* ellioTb needs a smoke

<cellofellow> s/smoke/quit

<cellofellow> :P

<ellioTb> i hate it

<ellioTb> its the next thing to go

<cellofellow> :) good.

<globe> ellioTb: do you live in usa?

* globe is curious because of the different social opinion between north america and eroupe

<globe> (about smoking)

<ellioTb> globe, yeah texas

<ellioTb> europe hate smoking more/less?

<globe> afik europe has > smokers

<ellioTb> more smokers huh

<ellioTb> so many anti-cigarette ppl my age

<ellioTb> its an old habit, i wish it didn't kill you and cost you so much

<globe> well...statistically speaking, 10 out of 10 people die. ;-) money though....

<ellioTb> MAN! the Wii supports external USB drives, nice!

<cellofellow> you're not that old. when did you get started?

<ellioTb> globe, you are right!

<ellioTb> my ex-gf got me started when i was 16

<ellioTb> i quit for a year

<ellioTb> when i was about 19

<globe> ellioTb: what would you do with a 60Gb drive attached to a Wii?

<ellioTb> i have cut back a LOT, now around school stress, it picks back up

<cellofellow> rule the world!

<ellioTb> globe, i have no idea, i want one so bad though

<globe> lol...a wii?

* globe was sore for a week after playing wii sports boxing...now the wii is in the mail on its way to a recall

<cellofellow> what's an easy way of inceasing my screen's resolution?

<cellofellow> it's at 1024 and I want 1280

<globe> cellofellow: from where?

<cellofellow> just a cli command would work. I can't reconfigure X right now I'm installing software.

* JKnife is back

<cellofellow> hi j-blade

<globe> you could probably edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (?) manually...but I dont know if the 'current' rez in in tehre, plus you would have to restart x

* JKnife hands cellofellow vim and /etc/X11/xorg.conf~

* JKnife hands cellofellow vim and /etc/X11/xorg.conf*

<cellofellow> yeah, ok. I'll do that later it's not pressing.

<globe> mmm the smell of vim in the evening

* JKnife works on a paper due tomorrow

*** cellofellow is now known as cellofellow|ssh

<cellofellow> TheSheep: what's the name of that search program you're working on?

<ellioTb> you guys read about the 'abandonware' rules going into effect?

<cellofellow> what's being abandoned?

<ellioTb> legalizing software that is no longer available to the public

<ellioTb> like all those old DOS games, MAME = legal now, etc

<JKnife> yno, what about it?

<JKnife> most companies release the games for free after a while anyways

<ellioTb> that should make NES and SNES stuff decriminalized too

<JKnife> yea*

<JKnife> what are these rules going into effect?

<JKnife> NES and SNES "stuff" is avaible through the Wii... so they are not really abandoned

<ellioTb> good call

<ellioTb> just read this hillarious forum

<ellioTb> where this guy goes to thanksgiving with his wife and kids to his parents house

<ellioTb> and gets to meet his sister he had never met from an affair his dad had

<ellioTb> and he recognizes her from BANGBROS!

<ellioTb> and used to have her videos and stuff, lol

<ellioTb> worst thanksgiving ever

<JKnife> haha

<globe> lol

<ellioTb> and he used to .....well....to his half sister, lol

<TheSheep> afaik the american copyright system brings programs out of copyright and into public domain after 50years, provided the author is not alive

<JKnife> i need a good site that talks about repression.. (like a REAL instuite site.. something that has credit)

<ellioTb> TheSheep, i thought it was less than that

<globe> TheSheep: is true, and 100 years no matter what

<ellioTb> JKnife, wiki!

<JKnife> ellioTb: CREDITABLE!

<JKnife> you can not use the wikipedia on collage papers

<globe> JKnife: wiki is creditable!

<ellioTb> imagine computers in 100 years when vista goes out of copyright

<TheSheep> ellioTb: so, 30 years more and we can play tetris legally, yay

<globe> my profs let me use it

<JKnife> globe: no it is not

<cellofellow> TheSheep: what's your search program called? Trac?

<JKnife> mine doesn't

<TheSheep> cellofellow: tracker

<globe> I dont remember who, but (cnet i think) did a report on the credibility of wikipedia vs britannica and found wiki to be much better and more reliable ;-)

<TheSheep> cellofellow: http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/

<ellioTb> http://www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk/article/ips-assigned-per-capita

<ellioTb> thats pretty gool

<JKnife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_repression <-- no reference links

<ellioTb> JKnife, you need to find a college website with links to those article searches

<globe> JKnife: hmm...might be different for CSIS students

<ellioTb> where they put they login/pass in the link

<globe> lol

<rosen37> Someone gnome-screensaver ?

<ellioTb> csis?

<rosen37> oops someone use gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver?

<ellioTb> comp sys info svcs?

* TheSheep managed to enable smooth fonts in opera

<ellioTb> rosen37, i use xscreensaver

<TheSheep> what sillyness

* JKnife slaps TheSheep with Kazehakase

<JKnife> HEY the 7.04 build uses xulrunner instead of mozilla

<JKnife> i think.. one sec

<JKnife> "Package mozilla is not installed, so not removed"

<JKnife> XD

<JKnife> everyone should at least try this web browser..

<JKnife> a LOT faster then FireFox

<JKnife> and not a big memory foot print

<JKnife> Hostname: B14cKh013 - OS: Linux 2.6.19-7-generic/i586 - CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (334.089 MHz) - Processes: 79 - Uptime: 2d 1h 10m - Load Average: 1.12 - Memory Usage: 135.96MB/249.79MB (54.43%) - Disk Usage: 2.05GB/147.49GB (1.39%)

<JKnife> that is with beryl, urxvtd, Kazehakase, abiword, and centericq-utf8

<globe> ive never herd of it...

<JKnife> install it..

<JKnife> it is really good

<globe> JKnife: what version are they up to?

* JKnife sees if he can find Freuds works online

<JKnife> Feisty is version 0.4.2

<globe> ...wait fiesty as in fawn?

<JKnife> yeah... why?

* JKnife pokes somerville32

<JKnife> somerville32: you have GOT to play XJump

<globe> I thought we were talking about a webbrowser...

<JKnife> yeah

<JKnife> that is the version of it in the Fiesy repos..

<JKnife> =\ pardon my spelling.. i am kinnda busy

<phlasphy_away> what is mandriva based off of?

<JKnife> phlasphy_away: black magic

<phlasphy_away> lol

*** phlasphy_away is now known as phlasphy

<somerville32> ;)

<phlasphy> so debian or what?

<JKnife> red hat i think

* phlasphy should give it to his dads gf son lol

<phlasphy> far out

<phlasphy> i got a cd from england and it stinks

<phlasphy> what us the worst linux distro

<JKnife> umm...

<JKnife> Mandriva

<somerville32> Yeah, I didn't like Mandravia even though it was support to be the most super friendly

<phlasphy> ok

<rosen37> I have a prob with xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver , password incorrect :s

<JKnife> Ubuntu is easier then Mandriva

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> rosen37: it is your login password

<phlasphy> xubuntu is easier than ubuntu

<globe> rosen37: you can kill the process from tty1

<phlasphy> bbl i need to have a shower

<PoL> Are you aware that the 6.10 liveCD still says "welcome to 6.06" on bootup?

<zen2> nice huh

<zen2> gotta love that

<PoL> no

<zen2> i think thats a oversight

<PoL> i was scared i downloaded the wrong iso for a minute

<PoL> heh

<zen2> not a biggie

<zen2> lmao yeah i did tsame thing

<PoL> file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html

<PoL> Welcome to Xubuntu 6.06

<PoL> lol, just letting you know

<PoL> :p

<zen2> lol gotta tel them

<zen2> if no one says anything

<zen2> and they dont hear

<PoL> probably an insight as to how many little oversights xubuntu has compared to regular ubuntu....

<PoL> hehe :p

<zen2> then it mnay stay that way for weeks

<somerville32> Gah

<somerville32> I keep meaning to fix that

<PoL> i'm comming from ubunut 5.04(5.10,6.06,6.06.1lts,6.10)

<PoL> ubuntu

<PoL> hope i get my money's worth :)

<TheSheep> PoL: yeah, you get what you pay for

<PoL> lol

<PoL> great

<PoL> well i used to run xfce on slackware before dropline gnome on slackware then ubuntu so i'm sure xubuntu will be okay

<TheSheep> xfce developed a lot recently

<PoL> oh

<PoL> *eh

<PoL> it seems to me as if the more mature xfce becomes, the more it bloats into gnome

<PoL> and the more mature kde becomes, the more sleek it resembles gnome

<TheSheep> PoL: not really -- they actually *decrease* the memory and cpu usage while adding features :)

<PoL> heh

<PoL> well

<PoL> I'm going to install AIXGL/Beryl...that's my latest craze

<TheSheep> gets boring quickly

<tictacaddict> I installed beryl the other day.

<PoL> i'm planning on setting up qemu to autostart windows XP in one of the desks

<tictacaddict> it felt slow compared to xfwm4

<tictacaddict> also it kept freezing

<PoL> so it'll be like..... xubuntu/beryl/windowsXP fantastico

<PoL> lol

<PoL> no more dual booting

<TheSheep> I just removed beryl today (I didn;t use it for month), and switched to the 'nv' driver, and the windows got even faster

<PoL> LOL

<PoL> nv

<PoL> might as well use nvidia :p

<TheSheep> PoL: no, nvidia is slow and bloated

<Gubuntu> man crap

<Gubuntu> i just lost my primary hard-drive

<Gubuntu> litterally

<TheSheep> PoL: the only advatage is support for acceleration

<PoL> TheSheep: that's the whole point

<PoL> games and xgl need acceleration

<PoL> heh

<TheSheep> Gubuntu: do you remember where have you last seen it? :)

<PoL> tremulous and beryl, namely

<TheSheep> PoL: the games I play don't

<PoL> well

<PoL> k

<PoL> well

<PoL> movies

<PoL> nvidia owns nv when it comes to movies

<TheSheep> movies don't need 3d acceleration

<Gubuntu> Yeah.. getting thrown against the floor.. and being punched until it stopped grinding.

<PoL> or picture site rendering

<PoL> heh

<TheSheep> PoL: how so? I didn't notice any difference, both nv and nvidia support overlays

<Gubuntu> hey

<Gubuntu> what was the command to make eth0 do a dhcp for example

<Gubuntu> something eth0 dhcp

<Gubuntu> i forget

<TheSheep> Gubuntu: dhcpcd eth0

<TheSheep> Gubuntu: dhclient eth0

<Gubuntu> that worked

<Gubuntu> man, wish my atheros wireless worked that easy last time i did this

<Gubuntu> cant belive my freshly installed xubuntu wiped out.. with my 130gb sata HD.

<PoL> My install just started hanging at 83% and the cd isn't reading

<PoL> lol wth

<Gubuntu> its not

<Gubuntu> just wait

<PoL> yeah it was making lots of noise and lighting up and now it's just quiet and no lights :p

<PoL> oh

<Gubuntu> yeah, its doing some unpacking

<PoL> Downloading language packages

<TheSheep> PoL: if it hangs on 'anthy', then there is a way to skip that step

<PoL> net stuff i need to read

<PoL> before it was copying off cd now downloading

<Gubuntu> ;P

<Gubuntu> yeah

<PoL> What's anthy?

<rosen37> JKnife: yes it is my login and passwd ,

<Gubuntu> i just know i thouht mine hung at 83% but it didnt so i know ur fine

<TheSheep> PoL: libs for inputing japanese text, I think

<Gubuntu> i just reinstalled my xubuntu less than an hour ago

<JKnife> rosen37: o.O

<PoL> yay 84%

* JKnife is lost and very busy

<rosen37> JKnife: sorry

<Gubuntu> wth.. it wont let me drag my firefox icon tot he desktop like i did before

<Gubuntu> ;P

<PoL> gnome

<PoL> lol

<Gubuntu> i need to get a real irc client.. gaim isnt cutting it

<PoL> lol

<PoL> omg downloading language packs still at 85%

<PoL> and i'm on a 5mb connection

<PoL> heh

<Gubuntu> sure thats not 56k ?

<Gubuntu> lol

<Gubuntu> im on Wildblue and it didnt take terribly to long.

<Gubuntu> My xubuntu code actually touched outer space...

<Gubuntu> that makes my xubuntu cooler than yours

<Gubuntu> lol

<Gubuntu> no.. seriously though.. sattilite internet ;P

<PoL> yes 86% now

<Gubuntu> i wish i could go to space before i die

<PoL> the nextwork slows down alot sometimes maybe i'm in a bottleneck

<Gubuntu> i want my corpse to be launched into the sun

<PoL> lol

<Gubuntu> would like it to be a blackhole.. but we havent really found one yet.

<Gubuntu> But, its more likely I could get my corpse sponsored by nike if Im launched towards another galaxy to be found.. as an alien to another race wearing their products.

<Gubuntu> cause it would be expensive to launch a dead body im sure.. sponsorship would be needed.

<Gubuntu> anyone have source for Beryl Project, for x64

<Gubuntu> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy main-edgy-amd64 is down

<phlasphy> back

<Gubuntu> jester whats a deb source for Beryl project x64... My hardrive actually just died

<Gubuntu> and ther source at the WIki is down.

<Gubuntu> u know one ?

<Jester45> um

<Jester45> in a sec

<Jester45> sudo thunar && swiftfox

<Jester45> oops

<Gubuntu> ;P

<Gubuntu> THUNar fte

<Gubuntu> ftw

<Jester45> let me try try that again

<Gubuntu> hax jester 239.213.533.455 : 80 rm -f -r *.*

<Gubuntu> oh

<Gubuntu> my bad this isnt the terminal

<Jester45> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281613

<Jester45> lol

<Jester45> wrong ip

<phlasphy> i am going to bed

<phlasphy> night all

<Jester45> night

<Gubuntu> lol

<Gubuntu> night

<Jester45> Gubuntu: there that link is for u

<Jester45> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281613

<Gubuntu> loading it

<phlasphy> i will be back when xubuntu alternite cd is done

<phlasphy> cya

<Gubuntu> GL

<Jester45> well? thats gonan take all night

<phlasphy> Jester45: i know

<Gubuntu> i downloaded like 6 distros and tried them all out 2 nights ago

<Gubuntu> didnt sleep for near 30 hours

<Jester45> im sorry

<Gubuntu> then i finally tried xubuntu

<Jester45> should of tryied xubuntu first

<Jester45> lol

<crimsun> the path to enlightenment is often long and twisted.

<Jester45> try gentoo

<Gubuntu> I come from gentoo

<Jester45> that will keep you up 30 houras

<Gubuntu> and i always installed from stage0

<tictacaddict> the path through enlightenment DR17 was pretty fun.

<Gubuntu> that means compiling everything from kernal up

<Gubuntu> and GCC twice

<Gubuntu> yeah.. i just sleep though the Compiles with gentoo

<Jester45> crimsun: is that why school is so long

<Gubuntu> Ive gone to sleep. and still was compiling till lunch time

<crimsun> Jester45: only if you don't find enlightenment early on.

<Gubuntu> good thing im over that.. Im leet crap.

<tictacaddict> I installed Gentoo once. I liked it but I was too impatient for a source-based package manager

<Jester45> i dont understand whe nthey dont give you a test at the begining of the year and that tell them if you need to take parts of the class

<Gubuntu> if I couldnt use Arc, or Xubuntu, or Debian.. I would be on Gentoo

<Jester45> lol

<Jester45> long list b4 gentoo

<Jester45> Gubuntu: you get the link?

<Gubuntu> oh yeah sure did

<Jester45> k

<Gubuntu> sudo apt-get update

<Gubuntu> hey IRC is dangerous

* Jester45 has 45 minutes left of deleting

<Gubuntu> U might get caught in a convo after trying to Apt-get.. and forget to click the terminal and it asked for your password

<Jester45> just change the password duh

<ellioTb> lol

<Gubuntu> E: Couldn't find package beryl

<Gubuntu> some source

<Jester45> xine up date

* Jester45 is happy

<Jester45> !libgsf

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Jester45> !gsf

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Jester45> !libgsf-1-113

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgsf-1-113 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Jester45> darn

<somerville32> !fish

<ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21.12-1 (edgy), package size 631 kB, installed size 2560 kB

<somerville32> err...

<somerville32> !fishing

<ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)

<somerville32> haha :D

<Jester45> !bot

<ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots

<Jester45> !Bot

<Gubuntu> !Jester45

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Jester45 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Gubuntu> figures

<Jester45> well its not casesensitive

<Jester45> !whois Jester45

<ubotu> whois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB

<Jester45> lol

<Jester45> oops

<somerville32> !fishing

<ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)

<somerville32> :P

<Jester45> shame on you somerville32

<Jester45> i hate fishing

<ellioTb> it got you

<Jester45> whats all the packages with apt-something

<Jester45> apt-get and cache

<Gubuntu> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/beryl-svn/

<Gubuntu> nice site with list of REpo.. and beryl and stuff

<geekneek> hello

<Gubuntu> wish i knew a sheekgeek

<Jester45> !mpqc

<ubotu> mpqc: The Massively Parallel Quantum Chemistry Program. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1 (edgy), package size 326 kB, installed size 2220 kB

<Jester45> oo

<Jester45> sounds fancy and speedy

<Jester45> i need a processor with mpqc

<Gubuntu> I need a linux version of matlab

<Gubuntu> !matlab

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matlab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Jester45> what mkinitrd-cd do exaTLY

<Jester45> says it creats an initrd image for booting from a livecd or usb drive

* Jester45 is watcgin video in cli

<Jester45> not very pretty

<Gubuntu> I cannot fine a beryl source that isnt 404

<cellofellow> yeek. laaaaaaag

<Jester45> HELLO cello

<cellofellow> never mind, apt finished, no lag.

<Jester45> welcome

<cellofellow> hi Jester45

<Jester45> back

<cellofellow> :)

<Jester45> missed u

<cellofellow> missed me when?

<Jester45> when you where not here

<Gubuntu> cellowfellow you have beryl source that works ?

<cellofellow> I don't have beryl, sorry.

<Gubuntu> darmn

<cellofellow> !google

<ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com - Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux

<Gubuntu> im on google.

* Jester45 suggest google

<Gubuntu> tried like 8 sources all dont work

<Jester45> try the "Next" link at the bottom

<Jester45> :)

<Gubuntu> im on page 2! already lol

<Jester45> try it agin

<Jester45> or

<Jester45> try the google for linux

<cellofellow> use qoute marks "" keep it focused on what you want.

<Gubuntu> scary

<Gubuntu> there is a wold of google just for linux ?

<Jester45> yes

<Jester45> !apt-watch

<ubotu> apt-watch: Applet that monitors apt sources for upgrades (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB

<Jester45> how do i get it to work

<Gubuntu> whats wrong with update manager.. ;P

<Jester45> i dont trust gui things

<cellofellow> haha.

<Jester45> they mess up settings

<Jester45> 3 programs i have that are gui

<cellofellow> if I can see the cli that is running under the gui I'm fine, which I (mostly) can see with Update Manager.

<Jester45> gaim swiftfox and gtk-gnutella

<Jester45> and all 3 are great

<cellofellow> :)

<cellofellow> with all of the webapps available these days all you really need is fire/swiftfox

<Jester45> ooo

<Jester45> no fire

<Jester45> only swift

<cellofellow> Tried the Google Suite?

<Jester45> im useing 108mb of ram

<Jester45> with

<Jester45> gtk-gnutella swiftfox azureus gaim 3 terminal and a http server and ftp server

<Jester45> thats sweet

<cellofellow> I have 152MB are being used, no big apps either. A couple of terminals, aptitude, irssi, gajim (needs python) xfce.

<Jester45> but look at my list

<cellofellow> I wonder where all of my memory went.

<Jester45> swiftfox and az use hella lot

<cellofellow> pretty cool.

<Gubuntu> damn

<cellofellow> No luck wildfire?

<Gubuntu> im using like 250mb... but i do have like 10 websites open

<Gubuntu> no luck

*** Gubuntu is now known as wildfire_

*** wildfire_ is now known as wildfir1

<Jester45> i have 3 on mines

*** wildfir1 is now known as wildfire|edgy

<Jester45> az has 5 torrents

<Jester45> and they are smoking mt ratio

* Jester45 is also rebuilding his mp3 library

<cellofellow> I was torrenting 2 torrents last week, and they sucked so much bandwidth I had to turn them off just to chat with Jabber. (irc doesn't need that much bw.)

<wildfire|edgy> lol

* Jester45 he has removed like a 100 doubles

<Jester45> cellofellow: whats your connection speed

<Jester45> 14.4k?

<cellofellow> 256kbps SL

<cellofellow> DSL

<wildfire|edgy> whats that torrent prog called debux or something

<Jester45> i wanna find a 14.4k modem

<cellofellow> Jester45: and what? use it for a text terminal?

<Jester45> wildfire|edgy: i use azureus there is all so rtorrent ktorrent

<Jester45> and about any other letter torrent

<RememberPOL> Hey I just installed nvidia-glx and now nothing happens when I rightclick my desktop, and there is no background image..any ideas?

<Jester45> nope

<Jester45> or

<Jester45> well

<Jester45> ...

<wildfire|edgy> wow,, that sounds bad.

<Jester45> remove it

<wildfire|edgy> did you nvidia-xconfig

<RememberPOL> heh

<RememberPOL> yes

<tictacaddict> sounds like xfdesktop is not running

<somerville32> No

<RememberPOL> let me see

* somerville32 mods at tictacaddict.

<somerville32> gha

<RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ ps -A|grep desktop

<RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$

<somerville32> *gah

<somerville32> I can't type, haha

<somerville32> RememberPOL: Click applications

<somerville32> settings

<somerville32> desktop settings

<RememberPOL> okay

<cellofellow> just alt+F2 xfdesktop

<RememberPOL> then?

<RememberPOL> i did

<RememberPOL> I just ran xfdesktop and it came up but i already restarted two times surprised it didn't fix itself

<somerville32> And check off "Allow xfce to manage the desktop"

<somerville32> and click close

<RememberPOL> yeah

<Jester45> somerville32: have you read my story?

<RememberPOL> it was unchecked

<somerville32> Jester45: No. Link?

<Jester45> i dont have link

<Jester45> but can i send via irc?

<somerville32> In private chat, yes

<somerville32> Or e-mail

<RememberPOL> somerville32: I think it was checked before but installing nvidia drivers messed it up?

<RememberPOL> I'll restart now and see how it goes

<somerville32> RememberPol: It should work automatically

<somerville32> No need for a restart

<RememberPOL> heh

<somerville32> Did it not work?

<RememberPOL> just to be sure?

<RememberPOL> it works

<RememberPOL> but what i'm saying is i restarted twice and it was down all that time

<RememberPOL> and i didn't manually disable it

<RememberPOL> so something's fishy :)

<RememberPOL> but ty ty

<somerville32> RemberPOL: Are you shutting down correctly?

<somerville32> If you don't shutdown correctly, your session is lost.

<RememberPOL> here's the thing

<RememberPOL> i did a clean restart both times

<RememberPOL> BUT if i go to shut down i think my system hangs towards the end

<RememberPOL> probably related to that

<Jester45> somerville32: is it working

<RememberPOL> maybe a dmsg analysis

<somerville32> Jester45: Is _what_ working?

<RememberPOL> [17179593.248000] apm: overridden by ACPI.

<Jester45> somerville32: the file transfer

<somerville32> No

<Jester45> darn

<RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ modprobe apm

<RememberPOL> FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): Operation not permitted

<RememberPOL> er sudo*

<RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe apm

<RememberPOL> Password:

<RememberPOL> FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device

<Jester45> !filehosting

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filehosting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Jester45> oo

<Jester45> pastebin it

<RememberPOL> sorry

<Jester45> hehe

<somerville32> RememberPOL, That device doesn't exist.

<RememberPOL> heh

<RememberPOL> i think it's related to my shutdown hang

<somerville32> RememberPOL: What version of Xubuntu are you running?

<RememberPOL> dmesg > http://rafb.net/paste/results/FDTRcP71.html

<RememberPOL> Latest, 6.10 fresh burned.

<RememberPOL> But my system would hang on Ubuntu also.. but didn't effect sessions (to my knowledge)

<somerville32> RememberPOL: Well, file a bug if you feel one exists.

<RememberPOL> *nod*

<RememberPOL> I believe I talked to ubuntu hackers before and they said oh that'll be fixed.

<RememberPOL> But it wasn't in 6.10..so I

<RememberPOL> yeah

<Jester45> yes someone else that know what a hacker is

<cellofellow> :)

<RememberPOL> Heh

<RememberPOL> Most "open-sourcer's" know what hackers are

<RememberPOL> but ubuntu noobs don't :p

<cellofellow> !generic

<ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html

<cellofellow> how do I install and use the generic kernel?

<Jester45> i hate having to say hacker when im talking to my friends about crackers

<Jester45> they dont undersand stupid windozers

<RememberPOL> lol

<cellofellow> I once had a friend who thought that hacking was using Windows Explorer instead of My Documents to delve into the filesystem.

<wildfire|edgy> wow

<wildfire|edgy> thats bad

<RememberPOL> lol

<cellofellow> He never did much for computing, just some gaming.

<wildfire|edgy> i hacked my school network.. it was some novel distro.. i setup a virtural drive.. and we all shared our homework.

<cellofellow> Funny thing is Windows Explorer and My Documents are the same thing.

<tictacaddict> it's kind of funny

<tictacaddict> kind of sad

<cellofellow> wildfire|edgy: funny

<wildfire|edgy> also had this software to keep people from breaking the computers.. and doing anything they arent supposed to

<wildfire|edgy> it had a big Jester icon..

<Jester45> somerville32: cellofellow: my story is here ---> ---> http://pastebin.ca/267848<---- <----

<wildfire|edgy> mor elike a joker icon..

<wildfire|edgy> all u had to do was boot safemode and uninstall it.

<wildfire|edgy> one time the network guys where watching me play a Mud on telnet and thought i was hacking thier systems

<Jester45> arrrg

<somerville32> lol

<cellofellow> People can be really stupid sometimes. Makes me laugh. Sometimes. When they are stupid enough to believe all of M$'s Linux FUD it makes me mad.

<Jester45> ooo

<Jester45> lol

<Jester45> i got a nice...or not so nice plan

<cellofellow> Hey, can anyone make a customized logo for me? Tux playing a cello?

<Jester45> on the next version on windows out in beta for the public to test someone should get on the sever and swich the iso with a linux distro

<Jester45> cellofellow: did you see my last drawing of a network

<cellofellow> yeah, I wasn't asking you.

<Jester45> lol

<cellofellow> I'm good at taking bits and peices of other drawings, but not original.

<Jester45> you didnt like it

<Jester45> i loved it

<Jester45> abstract

<cellofellow> It was good, for a ten-second gimp drawing.

<Jester45> 15

<Jester45> get it right

<cellofellow> lol

<Jester45> the text took forever

<wildfire|edgy> how do i kill the xf4 interface.. kill all xfsomething...

<wildfire|edgy> killall something..

<wildfire|edgy> so i can try beryl again

<cellofellow> The GIMP is not the GNU Text Editor Program, it's the GNU Image Manipulation Program.

<cellofellow> killall xfwm4

<cellofellow> that gets rid of the xfce window manager

<Jester45> yes but i had to add test

<wildfire|edgy> yeah thanks

<tictacaddict> it annoyed me how hard it was to kill metacity in gnome

<Jester45> http://wallpapers.neo5k.de/content/images/wallpapers/tux/tux-003-1024x768.png

<wildfire|edgy> ok

<wildfire|edgy> still no decor

<Jester45> edit in a cello

<cellofellow> Jester45: 404

<Jester45> your internet is messed up cello

<cellofellow> brb

<Jester45> ooo a tux icon at 1600x1900

<Jester45> its like hd tv

<Jester45> but a picture

<wildfire|edgy> 1920x1200 =D

<wildfire|edgy> native resolution

<maxamillion> wildfire|edgy: wow ... is that widescreen?

* cellofellow is back

<Jester45> dual moniter?

<wildfire|edgy> yes

<wildfire|edgy> 24"

<Jester45> yes to whom

<wildfire|edgy> single

<Jester45> o

<somerville32> Wow!

<maxamillion> nice

* somerville32 has a 19"

<Jester45> i got 21 wide

<cellofellow> max has 2 17

* maxamillion is getting a 19" widescreen for xmas to upgrade from his 15" standard

* somerville32 feels like less of a man.

* cellofellow has one lowly 17"

* tictacaddict has a 17 incher as well

* maxamillion has dual 17" at work

* maxamillion likes his work machine

* somerville32 is eating brown Jelly beans.

* tictacaddict still thinks it's better than a lousy used CRT but it wouldn't hurt to have two of these!

<Jester45> im about to get tri 19

<Jester45> just gotta get my new card

<cellofellow> I have 1 17' CRT that's really old. How's that? I have a 15" CRT around here somewhere, but no extra video card.

<somerville32> What are brown jelly beans suppose to taste like?

<Jester45> thats gonna rock

<Jester45> sh*t

<Jester45> cellofellow: i have 2 extra vid cards

<tictacaddict> like dirt

<wildfire|edgy> i just need two more smaller monitors for this http://www.geekz1.com/images/blog/dell-3007wfp-04.jpg

<Jester45> they should say chocalate flavor but make it sh*t flavored

<wildfire|edgy> i have monitor in the middle

<tictacaddict> haha

<wildfire|edgy> they are pimp

* Jester45 fires up gimp for cello:)

<wildfire|edgy> u can rotate those monitors.

<wildfire|edgy> 90 degrees

<Jester45> 360 would own

<Jester45> spin it

<Jester45> draw spirals on it

<Jester45> weee

<wildfire|edgy> well if u buy 3 30" wide screens

<wildfire|edgy> and stand them all up

<cellofellow> Jester45: I can draw it myself I think. I just wanted to find someone better than me.

<wildfire|edgy> u have a native scaled resolution of 1920.1200 x 3

<cellofellow> I think you can get these rack things that will take the output from one video card and split it between 4 others, lined up 2x2.

* tictacaddict wonders whether it would be better to have two monitors or one big one

<tictacaddict> or two big ones...

<cellofellow> two projector screens. :P

<wildfire|edgy> I had to 21 CRTS

<wildfire|edgy> and then i got this 24 wide lcd

<wildfire|edgy> to replace both

<cellofellow> Wouldn't that be sweet? Two side-by-side LCD projectors?

<Jester45> projectors :)

<Jester45> make a new wall for the background

<cellofellow> like 10' screens. or walls.

* cellofellow just now wonders what would he do if he needed to use the cli.

*** maxamillion is now known as max_code

<Jester45> use a moniter

<Jester45> or the terminal

<cellofellow> would a projector work with a virtual terminal without X?

* Jester45 wonders about the adult websites seen from space :)

<Jester45> should

<tictacaddict> I don't see why the terminal wouldn't work

<Jester45> be likea moniter

<cellofellow> ok, just a wild speculative "uh oh!"

<Jester45> just make the color diffrent

<wildfire|edgy> U can actually get a projector that will act like a touch screen on you wall....

<wildfire|edgy> How about that with Beryl

<Jester45> nice

<tictacaddict> that would be very neato

<wildfire|edgy> now why doesnt emerald work for me please.....

<tictacaddict> oh yeah, about beryl

<tictacaddict> cellowfellow, wasn't that you who suggested I try ssh'ing in when beryl froze my computer?

<cellofellow> why isn't the "create launcher" desktop menu item working? I click it and it just goes a way.

<cellofellow> tictacaddict: yeah.

<tictacaddict> cellofellow (whoops wrong spelling before): it froze again and I could not even get a remote connection

<cellofellow> it hit it that hard huh?

<tictacaddict> seemed to, yeah

<tictacaddict> it froze twice in one day, so I am a little wary to try it more

<cellofellow> :(

<tictacaddict> that was also the day I installed it

<tictacaddict> I feel like compiz ran faster and more reliably on an old korora livecd a while ago

<wildfire|edgy> how can i restart my xserver .. Alt backspace ?

<tictacaddict> ctrl+alt+backspace

<wildfire|edgy> nm

<wildfire|edgy> brb

<tictacaddict> well, time for bed

<ellioTb> wonder if i can get my smartphone to sync in xubuntu

*** Zambezi is now known as Sambesi

*** Sambesi is now known as Zambezi

<somerville32> ellioTb: You might have to download an app

<ellioTb> yeah, i know there are some apps but not sure if there is for a mine

<somerville32> Google would be a good place to find out

<ellioTb> yeah, gotta find this page i had read about it b4

<somerville32> cellofellow: ping

<ellioTb> crazy

<ellioTb> i plugged in my phone

<ellioTb> kernel log says "PocketPC PDA converter detected"

<ellioTb> new drive ipaq

<ellioTb> says the PDA converter is now attached to ttyUSB0

<ellioTb> where is this log stored? i see it on conky, like a real-time logging

<crimsun> from -devel.

<crimsun> 23:34 < crimsun> does anyone have amd64 and/or ppc?

<crimsun> 23:34 < crimsun> we're being asked whether we'd like herd 1 images

<Gubuntu> i have amd64

<crimsun> Gubuntu: great, are you willing to test a herd 1 desktop cd in a few hours?

<Gubuntu> whats herd 1

<crimsun> herd 1 is the first [alpha] milestone for 7.04, aka "feisty fawn"

<Gubuntu> cool, how much to download though

<Gubuntu> either way yeah..

<crimsun> Gubuntu: desktop is normally about 700 MB

<cellofellow> !seen kalikiana

<ubotu> kalikiana is on IRC right now!

<Commander-Crowe> the ban list in #fedora is long

<Commander-Crowe> you can't go off topic

<kalikiana> cellofellow: hi :)

<Commander-Crowe> cellofellow, how did it go?

<cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: how did what go?

<cellofellow> kalikiana: I figured out how to "install" search4files

<somerville32> cellofellow: ping

<cellofellow> somerville32: pong

<Commander-Crowe> cellofellow, you recovery

<somerville32> cellofellow: How is the Xubuntu marketing and advocacy going?

<kalikiana> cellofellow: sounds good, if you tell me i give you the new web site ;)

<cellofellow> somerville32: did I miss a meeting or something?

<somerville32> Cellofellow: Nope.

<somerville32> But didn't you agree to work on that?

<somerville32> :]

<cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: I reinsalled kubuntu dapper, stripped it down, upgraded, and then installed xubuntu

<cellofellow> somerville32: I did. :)

<somerville32> cellofellow: A good start would be to join the marketing mailing list and channel (#ubuntu-marketing)

<Commander-Crowe> cellofellow, why not install kubuntu, then upgrade to edgy, then install xubuntu, and then remove kubuntu-desktop?

<Commander-Crowe> its almost as if kubuntu wasn't there

<cellofellow> kalikiana: I modified the source so that the glade file was a full path instead of relative, and put the python file in /usr/local/bin, and the glade file in /usr/local/share/search4files. Now it runs from any directory.

<cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: I sort of did that. I removed kubuntu stuff first cause I wanted a faster upgrade. less installed packages, less upgraded packages.

<Commander-Crowe> ah

<Commander-Crowe> smart

<kalikiana> cellofellow: You lastname is not by chance Béranger? Since that is what he wrote on his blog. :P

<cellofellow> somerville32: what's the address for the mailing list? is it in Google Groups?

<somerville32> No

<somerville32> http://lists.ubuntu.com

<cellofellow> kalikiana: nope, if you /whois me you'll know my last name. ;)

<kalikiana> cellofellow: A funny coincidence anyway. I'd wondered if I should create a 'fake' Makefile which also installs a desktop file?

<cellofellow> somerville32: I thought I was supposed to market Xubuntu among the other Ubuntu Teams? I still like the marketting idea thanks.

<kalikiana> cellofellow: By the way, http://software.twotoasts.de?page?search4files

<somerville32> cellofellow: cool

<somerville32> Keep us updated on the -devel mailing list :]

<cellofellow> kalikiana: I tried to make a makefile but never have, but yeah, good idea. If the code works as python bytecode try compiling it too. :)

<cellofellow> putting a desktop file in /usr/share/applications makes it much easier to find the program. I wanted to make a deb package with the makefile, but failed. :)

<cellofellow> kalikiana: there's my desktop file

<kalikiana> cellofellow: I was going to investigate pyNeighborhood's makefile to find out how that guy did it

<cellofellow> that's what I did. :) I'll try again later.

<somerville32> lol

* somerville32 is packaging pyNeighborhood for Feisty.

<cellofellow> sweet!!! Did you get it working? I haven't yet.

<somerville32> I just have a few technicalities to fix

<somerville32> but it'll be in feisty for sure

<somerville32> Dunno if it actually works or not

<ellioTb> woohoo fiesty!

<ellioTb> need any help :)

<somerville32> Is that a question? :]

<ellioTb> gonna have free time galore coming up for xmas break

<kalikiana> cellofellow: could you send the file again? i think it wasn't saved :/

<diabolix> i just installed xubuntu, and i'm trying to install beryl. when i run beryl-manager, the decorations go away, but then it doesn't respond to any input..

<cellofellow> kalikiana: ok

<ellioTb> i do graphic design, could get some stuff together over break

<cellofellow> sounds like diabolix is having the same problems as wildfire

<cellofellow> !beryl | diabolix

<ubotu> diabolix: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl

* cellofellow recommends #ubuntu-xgl

<diabolix> thanks.

<somerville32> ellioTb: Awesome! Join the mailing list and ask if you can help and I'm sure j mak will be in touch

<cellofellow> kalikiana: you get the launcher file?

<somerville32> You might also speak with TheSheep who is already working on our artwork for Feisty.

<kalikiana> cellofellow: got it and it looks good; thx! :)

<cellofellow> :)

<ellioTb> somerville32, ok, sheep is huh? guess havin 2 ppl workin can't hurt

<somerville32> Can't hurt to have 3 either :]

<ellioTb> !mailinglist

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailinglist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<ellioTb> heh, where do i join

<somerville32> http://lists.ubuntu.com

<somerville32> Last one on the list

<somerville32> xubuntu-devel

<somerville32> Also, feel free to hang out with us in #xubuntu-devel

<ellioTb> there it is, thanx cody

<ellioTb> been wanting to help out for a while, just been sooo busy with school

<ellioTb> done in a day

<diabolix> what kind of init does ubuntu use? its kind of confusing...

<cellofellow> upstart

<cellofellow> it's new, one of the few things that new in edgy.

<cellofellow> iirc

<ellioTb> diabolix, what are you trying to do with it

<diabolix> ellioTb: just curiouse..

<ellioTb> oh :)

<cellofellow> somerville32: you once mentioned something called a wikipage. What's that?

<somerville32> -_-

<somerville32> !wiki

<ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation

<cellofellow> so you meen I should make a page called cellofellow?

<Gubuntu> sure wish emerald would work.. i must have missed something

<cellofellow> Gubuntu: have you tried #ubuntu-xgl?

<ellioTb> or #beryl

<cellofellow> we're all really clueless about it here.

<Gubuntu> nope good idea though

<unikon> i just reinstalled xubuntu 6.06 DAPPER and the applications buttin is missing any ideas for a quick fix

<ellioTb> unikon, on the panel?

<unikon> yes

<unikon> next to the blue firefox globe

<ellioTb> ok, right click on the panel, go to +add new item

<unikon> ok

<ellioTb> scroll down to the bottom

<ellioTb> there should be XFCE Menu

<unikon> xcfe menu

<unikon> ok

<unikon> add

<ellioTb> you can just click and drag it to where you want

<unikon> did that and no response at all

<Gubuntu> hey whats that website u can paste stuff

<crimsun> the one in the topic?

<ellioTb> !pastebin

<ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)

<unikon> http://www.rafb.net/paste/

<ellioTb> Gubuntu, did the server get mad at you pasting in a chat

<unikon> elliotb any other fixes i can do

<unikon> possibly in my home folder

<ellioTb> unikon, dragging it over didn't work, hrmmm

<Gubuntu> yeah

<ellioTb> unikon, i think this happened to me

<ellioTb> try creating a new panel

<ellioTb> drag the stuff to that

<ellioTb> remove the old panel, and move that panel to where the old one was

<unikon> ok will try

<unikon> rebooting now

<ellioTb> i think thats what i had to do

<Gubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TZeqlu60.html

<Gubuntu> is my Xorg.. think its missing something for emerald to work.. ?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Yup.

<ellioTb> i looked, but i dunno

<ellioTb> i had beryl and nvidia for a while on my other comp

<ellioTb> but its been a while

<ellioTb> max_code, can you name a kid Finn?

<max_code> ellioTb: not sure, but i think your parents did

<ellioTb> my dad and his wife who is 7 yrs older than me

<max_code> wow

<ellioTb> i had a normal family growing up

<unikon> elliottb

<ellioTb> as SOON as i left for college, my family went nuts

<unikon> im gonna go to bed ill try again tomorrow

<max_code> ellioTb: i sorry

<ellioTb> max_code, lol, its alright, it happens

<ellioTb> unikon, yesssss

<ellioTb> unikon, that work?

<unikon> nope ill have to retry tomorrow

<max_code> ellioTb: are your parents happier split then they were together?

<ellioTb> max_code, they were happy till end of my senior year, then i dunno what happened

<ellioTb> i went from having one sister, to a half brother, step brother, and two step sisters

<max_code> ellioTb: ah, mine are better off apart ... but they split when i was 10 so i wasn't as aware of the world around me

<ellioTb> all of them younger

<max_code> ew

<ellioTb> 6weeks, 8, 18, 20 with my sister at 21

<max_code> i have 1 step sister ... younger, i think she is between the ages 10 and 15 ... but i don't know for sure

<ellioTb> lol, you guys must be close

<ellioTb> unikon, i wish i knew what to do, max might know

<ellioTb> max_code, what is that bug with dapper where your applications button dissappears

<PuMpErNiCkLe> It's a bug with the menu editor, usually.

<PuMpErNiCkLe> You can fix it by replacing your menu.xml file with the default one.

<max_code> yeah... the menu editor was/is goofy ...

<max_code> yeah ... just delete the menu.xml file and it will be regenerated on login

<ellioTb> THATS what i did

<ellioTb> man, i had him doing all kinds of stuff

<ellioTb> i need to scan in some negatives, i took a HOT one of my gf

<ellioTb> took me forever to print

<ellioTb> was her holding her black dog in the mid day sun, so trying to get details on a black dog w/o making her complexion black was impossible

<max_code> :/

<Gubuntu> now to enable SLI

<Gubuntu> wee

<ellioTb> max /join #xubuntu-offtopic

<Gubuntu> not to just make a session for my login manager for beryl

<Gubuntu> err now

<max_code> Gubuntu: following the wiki i see?

<Gubuntu> yeah

<Gubuntu> i got my themes working.. was missing the load "dri"

<Gubuntu> for direct rendering

<max_code> i will warn, sometimes beryl crashes when you login and you will have to click the little emerald and reload it, also ... add xscreensaver to your autostarted applications because for some reason it no longer starts automatically

<Gubuntu> ahh

<zen2> ok anyone around

<zen2> i need to knwo how to make a ubuntu boot disk

<zen2> so i can boot a p1 to cd

<zen2> then i can install the xubuntu

<zen2> im on ubuntu myself

<zen2> and i am wanting to get a thin version installed

<zen2> and the room went deathly quiet

<Gubuntu> still new with xubuntu sorry ><

<Gubuntu> brb

<ellioTb> zen2, lol sorry

<godless> zen2: The install images are bootable...

<zen2> lol

<zen2> is life

<kalikiana> zen2: what's the problem? doesn't buring the iso work?

<ellioTb> zen2, have you downloaded the install image/

<zen2> cant butt from cd to old a bios

<godless> oh like a floppy disk boot disk

<godless> heh

<zen2> cant boot from cd to old a bios

<zen2> yeah

* kalikiana doesn't have a floppy drive anymore :P

<zen2> i need a floopy bootable to get he cd drive working

<zen2> then i can boot the cd and install

<kalikiana> there should be linux distros bottable from floppy

<ellioTb> zen2, i got one to boot to a usb disk

<zen2> i have always used this hardware to run 2k and 98se

<zen2> but i want to run xubuntu

<kalikiana> maybe dsl works?

<zen2> yeah there are a few like 2 disk firewalls

<zen2> but i really want the hdd to boot in theend

<zen2> can i copy the cd image to the hdd and install from there

<zen2> make a partition for the cd image

<ellioTb> zen2, you can boot from a floppy that then will boot the cd rom

<ellioTb> then install to the HD from that

* ellioTb is trying to find you one

<zen2> ahh

<zen2> thanks

<zen2> thats what i was hopeing i could do it in that order

<zen2> just could not find the pattern to figure out how

<zen2> i googled it

<zen2> and did not find the colution

<zen2> solution

<ellioTb> zen2, try this http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm

<ellioTb> make that floppy, then boot from the floppy, it should allow you to pick cdrom

<zen2> nice

<zen2> ok

<zen2> that seems to have got it to my system but i got a error

<zen2> cmp: /dev/fd0: Input/output error

<zen2> ok i gotta go

<zen2> back soon

<zen2> gotta love mums

<godless> Hey I went to turn gdm off in the xfce service manager and it gave me a big ugly warning about data loss and whatnot. I just want to save some memory by starting in text mode and trashing the gui login... is there something I should be aware of or can I just switch of gdm?

<godless> off

<ellioTb> godless, no idea sorry

<ellioTb> if no one is awake in here, some1 in ubuntu will know how to turn it off

<godless> thanks

<ellioTb> zen2, try a diff floppy maybe

<max_code> !nvi

<ubotu> nvi: 4.4BSD re-implementation of vi. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.79-24 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 616 kB

<PuMpErNiCkLe> You can disable the automatic use of gdm by making /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm non-executable or by moving/renaming it.

* ellioTb likes his gdm

<Gubuntu> resizing is wierd,, i mean.. it resizes both sides of the window.. and not one.. ;/

<Gubuntu> streach mode works correctly

<ellioTb> !looking is ops are watching you

<ellioTb> lol

<godless> PuMpErNiCkLe: I guess but isn'

<godless> er

<godless> isn't that just going to fill my logs with errors?

<godless> there ought to be a cleaner way to disable...

<Commander-Crowe> PuMpErNiCkLe, I can't open your memo

<PuMpErNiCkLe> It probably doesn't matter by now anyway - I've forgotten why I sent it.

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> how do you read memos?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> msg memoserv read all

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<Commander-Crowe> I got my HDD encrypted

<Commander-Crowe> then I couldn't get in it

<Commander-Crowe> or format it

<Commander-Crowe> I couldn't do a thing to it

<Commander-Crowe> excpet dban

<max_code> Commander-Crowe: that's where ibm dft comes in, it ignores permissions and just overwrites data :)

<Commander-Crowe> I actually tried that

<Commander-Crowe> it did find the HDD

<max_code> ouch

<Commander-Crowe> didn't*(

<Commander-Crowe> brbr

<Commander-Crowe> brb*

<Gubuntu> joy..

<Gubuntu> i lost sound

<Gubuntu> and have no idea what to do about that..

<Commander-Crowe> erm

<Commander-Crowe> setting>mixer settings ?

<Gubuntu> any ideas

<Commander-Crowe> check your speakers

<max_code> interesting ... gvim doesn't require vim .... i thought it was just a frontend

<Gubuntu> none of above

<Commander-Crowe> view /var/log to see if you can find an error

<Gubuntu> both are fine

<Gubuntu> hmm wonder what log to check

<Commander-Crowe> oh...yeah about that...

<Gubuntu> dont have that volume control thing either

<crimsun> open a terminal, and type ``amixer''

<zen2> hey ellioTb you still around

<ellioTb> yessir

<zen2> oki well im gonna ask you thins one see what you know cos i cant figure it out

<zen2> SBMK Bad!

<zen2> when i tried to boot the disk i sucessfully made

<Gubuntu> got it

<ellioTb> zen2, hrmm

<ellioTb> did you follow the instructions on the site to double check the disk is good

<Gubuntu> cant remeber the name of that torrent client i liked

<Gubuntu> delub or something

<zen2> yeah

<zen2> disk is good

<zen2> made a98se boot disk just to check it was not hte disk

<ellioTb> weird

<Gubuntu> omg http://googletorrents.com/

<Gubuntu> llol

<ellioTb> i dunno, maybe find some1 alive in #ubuntu

<ellioTb> there has to be a really easy way to do it

<zen2> yeah

<zen2> yep i agree

<ellioTb> i mean, if i could find one easy to boot from a usb disk, a cdrom one has gotta be there

<zen2> there is no exe so i cant load a windows boot disk they just dont work

<ellioTb> zen2, i mighta found it

<zen2> yeah i found a site that refers to it too

<zen2> but i knwo the hdd is both set to master

<zen2> same with the cd

<ellioTb> zen2, nm, everywhere i find just says use that SBM

<atarinox> what is a simple text editor to use in xubuntu?

<atarinox> something with a P i remember was relatively simple

<Gubuntu> how can i check what IP a device has

<zen2> ok i hope this worked ill let you know in a sec

<zen2> i think i got it

* somerville32 will answer one more support request before going to bed.

<rekoil> hey

<somerville32> Hi

<rekoil> can anyone help me with vnc on xubuntu

<rekoil> im kinda newb to nix systems

<rekoil> an i never used xfce before

<rekoil> heard it was light th

<somerville32> :]

<rekoil> which is god cause the hardware im running it n is nt the greatest

<rekoil> good*

* somerville32 has a 333mhz w/ 128mb of ram.

<rekoil> 800mhz 256mb ram here

<rekoil> hmm

<rekoil> maybe im underestimating my harware lol

<rekoil> so yeah

<rekoil> how d i get vnc running on this

* rekoil has a brken o key

<somerville32> rekoil: Do you have vnc installed?

<rekoil> hmm

<rekoil> i think s lol

<rekoil> installed some vnc package

<rekoil> how o i set up users to get the full desktop tho

<rekoil> shell*

<somerville32> Are you looking to install the client or server?

<rekoil> server

<rekoil> wanna be able t cnnect from my pc

<rekoil> etc

<somerville32> Do you want to be able to login or just use the logged in desktop?

<rekoil> ive got the prts all routed right

<rekoil> login

<rekoil> its port 5500 right?

<somerville32> rekoil: Free VNC only lets you use the logged in desktop

<rekoil> hmm

<rekoil> any alternatives?

<rekoil> ive used NX befre

<rekoil> that let me cnnect

<somerville32> Are you connecting from another linux computer?

<rekoil> and lg in

<rekoil> nah

<rekoil> winblows

<rekoil> >.<

<somerville32> Well, it is possible to use vnc and xdmcp together

<somerville32> You'll need to google for it though

<rekoil> xmdcp?

<somerville32> !xdmcp

<ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it

<rekoil> i installe some vino package too

<rekoil> whats that?

<somerville32> !vino

<ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB

<rekoil> yeah thats what it says in synaptic

<rekoil> how do i use it tho

<somerville32> You wouldn't use it

<somerville32> Vino is for gnome

<somerville32> !vnc

<ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX

<rekoil> you know what i think im just gnna stiick t nx

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<zen2> hey ellioTb you still around

<phlasphy> hey all

<phlasphy> any1 here

<phlasphy> does xubuntu use sudo or su?

<phlasphy> zen2: you there how did it go?

<zen2> yeha go tit to work

<zen2> sudo

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> zen2: with floppie disks

<zen2> yeah

<phlasphy> how many were there?

<zen2> 1

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> so it downloaded the need stuff?

<zen2> zen2, try this http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm

<zen2> nope

<zen2> had to load a boot loader then load the cd

<phlasphy> ohh ok

<phlasphy> will you be up late tonight?

<zen2> no idea

<zen2> why

<phlasphy> wondering

<zen2> why

<phlasphy> zen2: i gave up gentoo i hate the use flags and the compiling from source

* phlasphy thinks he will use XUBUNTU

<zen2> why

<phlasphy> why not?

<zen2> i have no idea why you even considered gentoo

<phlasphy> it is crap especially when i get capped

<phlasphy> source os too big

<phlasphy> s/os/is

<zen2> lol

<phlasphy> other than that and the use flags i liked it

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<phlasphy> apokryphos: he

<phlasphy> apokryphos: hey

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<phlasphy_homewor> too much homework :(

<phlasphy_homewor> naturaly it is for my worst subject english :(

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<phlasphy> cya all

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* phlasphy wonders if xubuntu will be worth it

<phlasphy> anybody awake

<phlasphy> awake/alive

<zen2> no

<phlasphy> :(

<zen2> xubuntu is not worth it

<zen2> its a fast os

<phlasphy> why not?

<zen2> but a limited os

<phlasphy> limited how?

<zen2> its called the thin client for a reason

<phlasphy> how is it limited?

<zen2> not as feature rich

<phlasphy> but you can add features right?

<zen2> works well

<zen2> yeah

<zen2> you can download them

<phlasphy> so not feature rich out of the box

<zen2> exactly

<phlasphy> i dont mind

<zen2> ok

<phlasphy> i am ging to try and do a CLI only install

<zen2> you have ubuntu why not just use it

<phlasphy> then add stuff as i go

<zen2> it bacially the same thing

<phlasphy> zen2, i have 6.06

<phlasphy> dapper

<zen2> so install it upgrade it to edgy eft

<zen2> and your away

<phlasphy> besides i think i need an alternate CD to install nothing but CLI

<zen2> smaller download than

<phlasphy> it is already half done might aswell leave it

<zen2> if you get the xubuntu

<phlasphy> yeah

<phlasphy> ?

<zen2> you are doubleing up on opperateing systems

<phlasphy> so it just more downloads to telstra no inconvienece to me :P

<zen2> lol

<phlasphy> hey vidd :)

<vidd> what up

<phlasphy> nothing much

<phlasphy> you

<phlasphy> ?

* vidd is wondering if this system can run beryl

* vidd installed beryl on his laptop (after a little bit of trouble

<vidd> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x Pentium III (Katmai) @ 448MHz] mem[Physical : 313MB, 76.7% free] disk[Total : 78.22GB, 92.50% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]] sound[]

<vidd> uptime[12h 29m 41s]

<Gubuntu> Im the increadble moo moo cow.

<vidd> have you done apt-get cow?

<Gubuntu> lol no

<vidd> apt-get moo.....sorry'