| <Seeker``> everyones quiet :( | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> that happens at night | |
| <Seeker``> pfft | |
| <Seeker``> silly people | |
| <Seeker``> popey: Have a good weekend? | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> not really, no :( | |
| <popey> it's getting much better thoug :) | |
| <Seeker``> oh? | |
| <Seeker``> any particular reason? | |
| * chaddy has hopefully found a part time voluntary job helping to bring wireless and (probably) Ubuntu across the digital divide in Aberdeen | |
| <Seeker``> cool | |
| <chaddy> fingers crossed | |
| * Seeker`` went shopping on oxford street at the weekend | |
| <Seeker``> they had closed it to cars on saturday, so you could walk down the middle of the strret | |
| <Seeker``> which was cool | |
| *** tsmithe is now known as tsmithe-afk | |
| <Seeker`> heya | |
| <GazzaK> hello Seeker` | |
| <GazzaK> how's ya Monday morning? | |
| <Seeker`> meh | |
| <Seeker`> Beryl has decided i dont need to close, minimize or maximise windows | |
| <Seeker`> how about you? | |
| <Seeker`> thats better :D | |
| <GazzaK> i'm okay, annoyed that the boss is coming today, and I was only told to help get things sorted friday | |
| <popey> ,pp | |
| <popey> ahhh | |
| <popey> keyboard offset error 101 | |
| <GazzaK> mooo | |
| <popey> I actually meant to say | |
| <popey> moo | |
| <popey> \o/ holiday | |
| <GazzaK> error exists between keyboard and chair | |
| <GazzaK> sorry for sending you loads of emails popey | |
| <Seeker`> popey: I'm on holiday on wednesday :D | |
| <GazzaK> wow, because the boss is coming today, the carpark is actually being cleaned!!! | |
| <popey> heh, no worries, good to be kept in the loop | |
| <Seeker`> however, i will probably be travelling > 400 miles between then and the end of the weekend | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <GazzaK> morning mrben | |
| <Seeker`> hi | |
| <popey> morning mrben | |
| <GazzaK> so popey the last email I sent from chris gives the okay to transfer the colchester.lug.org.uk to meeee | |
| * GazzaK tickles LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Hey gazzak, good morning | |
| <GazzaK> guten morgan Herr Butler | |
| <popey> yes GazzaK I would say so, one of the admins will deal with that | |
| <popey> (I suspect) :) | |
| <Seeker`> lo LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Ive got like 5 mins then im off to do some more chargeable work .. installing ubuntu desktops ! yes ! | |
| <GazzaK> so now all I need to figure out is a nice bit of spamming, I mean advertising, and a nice cosy pub | |
| <Gargoyle> It's only 9:20 and I am fed up with Monday morning already! I'm just going to idle in here and work avoid! | |
| <GazzaK> lucky LoudMouthMan, I have to make my server room presentable to one of the Bosses | |
| <popey> GazzaK: just install lots of blue LEDs | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Seeker, NeilSimmons | |
| <Gargoyle> LoudMouthMan: You get paid to install ubuntu? | |
| <GazzaK> and figure out how to drive 6 training laptops using one half dead four port 10Mb HUB!!! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes . cause I work hard <grin> | |
| <NeilSimmons> Morning all, wotcher LMM! | |
| <NeilSimmons> Nice photos, by the way. | |
| * GazzaK installs lots of blue flashing lights | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Oh cheers, | |
| <GazzaK> my photo is the bestest | |
| <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone, have a good day | |
| <LoudMouthMan> http://www.flickr.com/photos/theloudmouthman/sets/72157594401078110/ | |
| <Seeker`> Gazzak: dont forget the machine that goes ping | |
| <LoudMouthMan> for those wondering | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, what were you selling for 10p each? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> haha thats the next traders stand ! | |
| <GazzaK> OMG, anto9us' photo is scary | |
| <NeilSimmons> what WAS that trader selling for 10p? I couldn't bear to look! | |
| <DaveMorri1> SCO shares? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Novell disks | |
| <DaveMorri1> LoudMouth, what was that other channel you mentioned on Thurs? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh #lugradio | |
| <NeilSimmons> Wasn't SCO shares - they being given away free with the purchase of a memory card on another stand! | |
| <GazzaK> why would you sell novell disks, everyone knows they are in bed with satan :-) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nah thats saddam , i saw it on southpark | |
| <GazzaK> meh, lol | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gosh if this keeps up we will have to call this channel lugradio2 | |
| <NeilSimmons> heh - it's more fun than working, especially at the moment. | |
| <GazzaK> you are all mad on #lugradio | |
| <LoudMouthMan> speaking of which im off to see the hippies | |
| <GazzaK> the wonderful hippys of Oz? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> OztheEarth yes | |
| <DaveMorri1> oh, has anyone else had the problem where daper seems to change the number of the eth cards about on different boots (but not every boot) | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning all. | |
| <brush01uk> hi j | |
| * jayteeuk tries to get motivated to work. | |
| <Seeker`> popey: got anything planned on your week off? | |
| <popey> yup :) | |
| <popey> I have a couple of applications that I want to make a start on | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> popey: anything constructive? :P | |
| <popey> and I want to clear out some of the old support tickets :) | |
| <popey> oh, and make a few more screencasts | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> what language do you code in (out of interest)? | |
| <popey> it will be python / gtk | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> did you put your specs for them on Launchpad yet? | |
| <popey> no | |
| <jayteeuk> The Python module repostiry -- is it cheeseshop.python.org? | |
| <jayteeuk> I seem to remember reading that somewhere, but I can't remember where. | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh, duh. | |
| * jayteeuk corrects the typo and it magically works | |
| <loudmouthman> hello | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning loudmouthman | |
| <anto9us> GazzaK, what's scary about it? | |
| <GazzaK> looks like a stalker :-) | |
| <anto9us> shhh... don't tell anyone | |
| <loudmouthman> hey jayteeuk | |
| <jayteeuk> Wow, latency. | |
| * Seeker` wants lunch :( | |
| <loudmouthman> lat .. ency ... whats . th a t t h e n | |
| <DaveMorri1> has anyone else had the problem where daper seems to change the number of the eth cards about on different boots (but not every boot) | |
| <jayteeuk> loudmouthman: Round Trip Time: 12m | |
| <jayteeuk> :) | |
| * popey books his hotel for fosdem \o/ | |
| <Seeker`> fosdem? | |
| <popey> http://fosdem.org/2007 | |
| <popey> conference in belgium | |
| <popey> been the last two years, good fun | |
| <popey> special blend of geek and beer | |
| <GazzaK> beer? | |
| <GazzaK> where | |
| <popey> belgium | |
| <popey> it's really good fun | |
| <GazzaK> blimey, a gunship just flew overhead | |
| * popey blogs | |
| <anto9us> GazzaK, have another look, it's probably even scarier now | |
| <anto9us> oh, it's not automatically updated from launchpad | |
| <GazzaK> anto9us, arghhhh | |
| <anto9us> hairier and scarier | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/FOSDEM2006/Image_085 mmmmm beer | |
| <GazzaK> hehe | |
| <GazzaK> right, we now have two gunships and a royal flight helipopter | |
| <GazzaK> popey, care to explain? http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/FOSDEM2006/Image_073 | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> see next pic | |
| <mrben> popey: tell me that's a half yard of the mighty kwak? | |
| <popey> \o/ kwak | |
| <popey> i love kwak | |
| <jayteeuk> Good grief, did those sandwiches come with a gilt-edged plate or something? | |
| <mrben> popey: likewise | |
| <popey> tell me about it jayteeuk | |
| <mrben> popey: king of beers | |
| <popey> you coming to fosdem mrben ? | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <mrben> doubt it | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/Fosdem2005/Image127 many beers to choose from :) | |
| <popey> :( | |
| <mrben> when/where? | |
| <GazzaK> aww, bless, lego http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/Fosdem2005/Image128 | |
| <mrben> ah - 24/25 feb | |
| <mrben> in brussels | |
| <mrben> in which case - definitely no | |
| * mrben doubts he will be going anywhere in the last 6 weeks before the birth | |
| <Gargoyle> apart from hell and back! | |
| <popey> ahhh | |
| <popey> Congrats :) | |
| <Gargoyle> So apart from playing with lego and drinking variety packs of beer, what goes on at fosdem? | |
| <popey> conferences | |
| <popey> lots of rooms where developers talk about their projects, and you can ask them questions | |
| <popey> plus it's a chance to catch up with people | |
| <popey> do a bit of networking | |
| <jayteeuk> Aren't there tonnes of websites for that kind of thing? :D | |
| <jayteeuk> Come on now, admit it, the real reason is the beer. | |
| <GazzaK> and the lego | |
| <GazzaK> lego and beer are valid reasons | |
| <jayteeuk> I won't argue. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, time for the nursery run... bbl. | |
| <X3N> in python how do you do includes for libaries ? | |
| <jayteeuk> X3N: I think you're looking for import? | |
| <X3N> hmm | |
| * jayteeuk is a Python newbie, so excuse me if I'm talking sh1t. | |
| <X3N> maybe it doesn't work in the command line | |
| * X3N is a python uber n00b | |
| <X3N> i only know c++ and php | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm just looking at writing my first Python application, coming from a mainly Java background... | |
| <jayteeuk> So I'm not the best person to ask. | |
| <jayteeuk> But I think the tutorial I read used imports from the cli. | |
| <jayteeuk> If you import something, you still need to fully qualify it AIUI. | |
| <X3N> hmm | |
| <jayteeuk> import foo; | |
| <jayteeuk> foo.somemethod() | |
| <X3N> ahh ! | |
| <X3N> that did it :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Or: | |
| <jayteeuk> from foo import somemethod; | |
| <jayteeuk> somemethod() | |
| <jayteeuk> I think. | |
| <X3N> that's quite cool | |
| <jayteeuk> Anyway, must dash. :) | |
| <X3N> thanks, laters | |
| <Seeker`> lo LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello Seeker | |
| <Seeker`> does anyone know of any decent Wireless cards that support WPA easily? | |
| <popey> desktop or laptop? | |
| <popey> i.e. PCI, mini-PCI or PCMCIA? | |
| <Seeker`> desktop | |
| <Seeker`> PCI | |
| <Seeker`> I have a netgear WG311 and it doesn't seem to want to do WPA at all | |
| <Seeker`> the problem is, I cant get a net connection without the wireless card working | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> IIRC I put a Belkin in Lisa's Desktop that work OOTB, but I can't be sure, it was a while ago | |
| <Seeker`> i haven't used ubuntu on my desktop in about 6 months cause i havent been able to get the card working | |
| <Seeker`> and i'm fed up of it now, so i'm looking to buy a better one | |
| <X3N> all the intel chipsets work ootb | |
| <X3N> mm shine new acoymn | |
| <Seeker`> are there any PCI cards that use the intel chipset? | |
| <X3N> acronym | |
| * jayteeuk is back and still has that warm glow from helping someone with a Python query for the first time. :) | |
| <X3N> yeas Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> X3N: any ideas which ones | |
| <Seeker`> X3N: ping | |
| <jayteeuk> pong | |
| <X3N> erm | |
| <X3N> looks like they stopped making them | |
| <Seeker`> : | |
| <Seeker`> :( | |
| <X3N> have you tried ndiswrapper ? | |
| <Seeker`> yep | |
| <Seeker`> it came up with errors with the module | |
| <Seeker`> cant remember them exactly | |
| <LoudMouthMan> have you tried turning it off and on again ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> <--- joking | |
| * popey records a new screencast | |
| <popey> might be useful for your people LoudMouthMan - installing ubuntu on a windows machine | |
| <LoudMouthMan> it sure will. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> we kept telling people to visit quickones.org and www.ubuntu.com to get advice and support. especially focussing on IRC and Maillists. | |
| * LoudMouthMan just purchases a flickr upgrade ! | |
| <popey> ooi, do you give people dapper or edgy CDs? | |
| <chaddy> almost run out of Dapper's | |
| <chaddy> got one left, should really shuffle over to shipit | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Dapper since thats the "LTS" release with the pretty cardboard covers. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> We are waiting for feisty with its one click codec install goodieness to see if that will replace the Knoppix CD of wonders... | |
| <DaveMorri1> loudMouth, have you seen the problem where daper seems to change the number of the eth cards about on different boots (but not every boot) (I've got 4 cards in one machine) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Dave, um no . sorry . not to date have you posted a support ticket on this yet ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right blogs updates and im off to a client .. laters people! | |
| <chaddy> hmm, been getting intermittent problems with sounds (particularly the ubuntu login sound, but at the moment it's a gaim logout one) getting caught in a loop, any new sounds get caught in a new loop | |
| <chaddy> what should I kill/restart? | |
| <jayteeuk> chaddy: That you're getting a login sound suggests that you're running esd, so maybe that would be a good place to start. | |
| <chaddy> killed all esd processes, still with the backbeat | |
| * chaddy goes for a poke in /etc | |
| <Seeker`> bbiab | |
| <Seeker`> back :) | |
| <chaddy> I wonder if it's a hardware fault, this lappy is now on it's fourth systme board in 363 days | |
| <chaddy> s/tme/tem | |
| <jayteeuk> Hmmm... not really sure what to suggest, tbh. I get choppy audio on my lappy sometimes, but I dont' know enough about the sound subsystem to really look into it. | |
| <chaddy> all that keeps floating into my head is /dev/dsp | |
| <jayteeuk> Yeah, this is a bit of a bugbear of mine... /dev/dsp is old-style OSS, AFAIK, and ASLA uses devices under /dev/snd. But the transition of applications over from OSS to ALSA seems to be taking forever, and we seem to have ended up in this kind of half-way state where some use OSS and others use ALSA and there's occasional breakage on both sides. | |
| <chaddy> I'm a bit bemused by the whole thing at the moment; seem to be suffering a generalized degradation of the systme | |
| <chaddy> s/tme/tem | |
| <chaddy> !automatix | |
| <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe | |
| <chaddy> that's the most likely cause | |
| <DaveMorri1> !WorksForMe | |
| <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. | |
| <chaddy> I should really just start afresh, possibly with feisty | |
| <jayteeuk> Of course the stock response to that is "So get involved and help fix it" but like I said, I don't know enough about the sounds subsystem to really look into it, and I don't currently have the time to learn -- I'm too busy doing my day job, learning Python and getting up to speed with Ubuntu participation generally. :) | |
| <chaddy> good point, DaveMorri1, I've been messing with quite a lot of iffy stuff | |
| <jayteeuk> Obvious question, but did the problems start around the same time as any particular software update? | |
| <chaddy> well, thinking back, it was powered on mon-wed last week, then I took it away with me thursday, the whole time I was away it was behaving oddly | |
| <chaddy> particularly beryl | |
| <chaddy> no that's not fair, particularly xgl | |
| <jayteeuk> CPU scaling due to no AC power? | |
| <jayteeuk> And then not reverting back to full capacity when the AC comes back? | |
| <chaddy> the problems have continued since I got back to steady AC | |
| <chaddy> and it's a celeron, iirc that means no scaling? | |
| <jayteeuk> Not sure, but I bet there's a way to check under /proc/cpuinfo :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Heh, as long as you know what the listed flags refer to: power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc | |
| <jayteeuk> Have you tried the Windows way? | |
| <chaddy> I prefer not to use proprietary software, unless it's unavoidable | |
| <jayteeuk> No, I meant a total shutdown and reboot. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Cold boot. | |
| <chaddy> oh, yes, did that a while ago, sorted it | |
| <jayteeuk> When you go out, do you shut down the lappy or hibernate it? | |
| <chaddy> leave it running | |
| <jayteeuk> Just close the lid and go? | |
| <jayteeuk> I mean when you take the laptop out with you. | |
| <chaddy> ahh, I see what you mean | |
| <chaddy> shut down | |
| <jayteeuk> I didn't phrase the question very well. :) | |
| <chaddy> I most often leave the house without the lappy, it's been undergoing repairs for most of the last 6 months | |
| <jayteeuk> So we can probably rule out hibernate-related breakage then. | |
| <chaddy> though I did try hibernate last week, too | |
| <jayteeuk> I know somewhere along the upgrade path, something broke my hibernate capability. | |
| <jayteeuk> I *think* it happened pre-edgy, but I'm not sure. | |
| * jayteeuk scratches his brain. | |
| * Seeker` wonders what happened to jayteeuk's skull :P | |
| <jayteeuk> Do you have anything in ~/.asoundrc ? | |
| <jayteeuk> Seeker`: I had it removed, it was cramping my brain. :-P | |
| <Seeker`> :P | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm nodding off here... I think I need more caffeine. | |
| <jayteeuk> brb | |
| <chaddy> sorry, just hibernated, it made a mess | |
| <chaddy> I think my best course of action at the moment is to backup what I want from /home and go with a re-install, this time without automatix | |
| <jayteeuk> It's a drastic course of action, but unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. | |
| <jayteeuk> I was considering doing the same actually. | |
| <chaddy> hmm never seen gnome-terminal crash before | |
| <chaddy> too much beta software on here I suspect | |
| <jayteeuk> Is there a way of seeing what conffiles in what packages I've modified from the installation default? | |
| <jayteeuk> I suspect it would involve md5sum and some option to dpkg. | |
| <chaddy> man dpkg would me my first stop, too | |
| <jayteeuk> I seem to remember something somewhere mentioning that I could get the dpkg database updated with my edited version of xorg.conf (I think) by running some funky commands... but I'm buggered if I can remember where I read it or what the commands were. | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah well, that's something to look at another day. | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm going back to learning Python. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm combining learning Python and updating my CV into one task. :) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> jayteeuk: is that so you can put "I Know Python" into your cv? :) | |
| <jayteeuk> sheepeatingtaz: I was looking at http://www.ubuntu.com/employment and noticed a position as a Python developer. ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> But I assumed valid candidates would be required to know Python. | |
| <jayteeuk> Doesn't look as though it's there now actually, but there's still a hell of a lot of Python in Ubuntu. | |
| * sheepeatingtaz goes 'bah' at the 'Needs Degree' requirements on most of them :) | |
| * jayteeuk has a degree FWIW. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> the 2 web engineer ones look like they use a lot of Python | |
| <jayteeuk> It's one of those languages... I first came across it when I was hacking on the PlayStation as part of my degree, but I never learnt it. | |
| <jayteeuk> Now I'm beginning to wish I had. | |
| <jayteeuk> But then, the same can be said of Perl -- I never *really* learnt it, I just know how to get by. | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm quite impressed with Python's SQLObject. | |
| <X3N> hehe the paramater out of range error in my program says "I'm sorry Jim i can't let you do that" | |
| <jayteeuk> Heheh. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> That sounds more like a Star Wars reference than Monty Python though. | |
| <X3N> is that where it's from ? | |
| <jayteeuk> Star Trek, sorry. | |
| <X3N> yeah | |
| * jayteeuk slaps his fingers for auto-typing. | |
| <X3N> i should probably eat something today | |
| <jayteeuk> I find it tends to be a generally good idea. | |
| <X3N> and god what a racket from upstairs.. | |
| <X3N> someone's gonna wake up with out an eyebrow i can tell.. <_< | |
| <X3N> >_> | |
| <jayteeuk> chaddy: I don't know if it'll help with your problem, but Erich Schubert has just posted on Planet Debian about software mixing with ALSA. | |
| <jayteeuk> Well, on his blog which gets syndicated to Planet Debian: http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/2006120402-software-mixer.html | |
| <chaddy> jayteeuk: just been rooting about, found a debian dvd, going to give it a whirl on the lappy, been meaning to for ages | |
| <chaddy> will still have ubuntu on the desktop and xubuntu on the old lappy, though | |
| <chaddy> ;-) | |
| <jayteeuk> Hmmm... that reminds me, I should really look into getting an Ubuntu DVD so I can let my dad and my brother try it out. | |
| <jayteeuk> Just talking about it hasn't been enough to convert them thus far. | |
| <chaddy> was just reading about that, only available in teh US at the minute | |
| <jayteeuk> Is that the ShipIt service? | |
| <jayteeuk> http://www.opensoft.nl/cdshop/index.php/language/en/ | |
| <chaddy> hmm | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> aren't the DVD's available from amazon? | |
| <jayteeuk> sheepeatingtaz: From amazon.com I think... | |
| <chaddy> .com, but not .co.uk I was reading | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> but don't .com ship to the UK? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> (they aren't on .co.uk , I just checked) | |
| <jayteeuk> I don't know actually. I guess they would. | |
| <jayteeuk> But you'd pay a lot on shipping from the US. | |
| <chaddy> the air miles are a bit of an issue, though | |
| <chaddy> greenwise | |
| <jayteeuk> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-6-10-64-bit-PC-Edition/dp/B000K2STH4/sr=1-2/qid=1162590113?ie=UTF8&s=software&tag2=ubuntushipit-20 | |
| <jayteeuk> chaddy: That's also true. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> how's this: http://nginyang.uvt.nl/edgy/ | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> you can download & burn | |
| <chaddy> silly question, does the DVD work as a live disc? | |
| <jayteeuk> I can, and probably will. | |
| <jayteeuk> That's how I got the Dapper DVD. | |
| <jayteeuk> But I'll have to leave it running overnight. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> chaddy: it says so | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I've never tried it | |
| <chaddy> nice | |
| <jayteeuk> At least until NTL:Telewest upgrade my connection after Christmas. | |
| <jayteeuk> Dammit, I can never remember where the LUG page is. | |
| <jayteeuk> Can someone point me in the right direction, and would there be any objections to me adding it to the UKTea wiki page? | |
| <jayteeuk> LUG membership, this is. | |
| <jayteeuk> Got it. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> \o/ new screencast recorded | |
| <popey> try and do another later | |
| <popey> not done any for ages :( | |
| <jayteeuk> Right, bathtime for the boys. | |
| <jayteeuk> I'll be back soon, hopefully. :) | |
| * jayteeuk returns | |
| <jayteeuk> Does Gnome-Terminal have a select all option? | |
| <CieD> don't think so | |
| <jayteeuk> Bugger. | |
| <apokryphos> only in the -uk channel ;-) | |
| <jayteeuk> Insert goatse.cx reference here. | |
| <jayteeuk> Sod it, I'll just have to remember the specific hacks I had to make to get it to work. | |
| <jayteeuk> I just pasted several hundred lines of debug output into Gnome-Terminal by mistake. :( | |
| <jayteeuk> So I killed it. | |
| <jayteeuk> In which case, that's me done for the day. | |
| <jayteeuk> And I'm on the road tomorrow, so probably won't be about. | |
| <jayteeuk> So I'll see you all on Wednesday -- assuming after tomorrow's meeting I'm still employed. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> ttfn | |
| <jamesbrose> Hello all | |
| <jamesbrose> My Internets being persistently slow today :[ | |
| <jamesbrose> It likes finds websites but takes an age to load, with 10 megabit broadband. I'm pissed! | |
| *** NeilSimmons is now known as NeilsimmonsAFK | |
| *** tsmithe` is now known as tsmithe | |
| *** tsmithe is now known as tsmithe-afk | |
| *** tsmithe-afk is now known as tsmithe | |
| <tsmithe> the website is broken :( | |
| *** NeilsimmonsAFK is now known as NeilSimmons | |
| <tsmithe> try http://www.ubuntu-uk.org/getmembers.php | |
| <LoudMouthMan> tmsithe whats the original link page ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sorry referrer ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh got it .. oh yeah ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmm I think neil is not gettiing his idenity straight .. | |
| <GazzaK> his what straight | |
| <LoudMouthMan> haha Gazzak trust you . | |
| <GazzaK> :-) | |
| *** tsmithe` is now known as tsmithe | |
| <VooDoo> hello all | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Voodoo. | |
| <popey> moo | |
| <popey> \o/ two screencasts recorded | |
| <popey> will put online tomorrow | |
| <popey> for now, bed beckons | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Cool. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> me I just spent the day walking two users through Evolution .. sigh . | |
| <popey> excellent | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah it would have helped if I actually used it ! | |
| <popey> hahah | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but they liked how it looked. so whod have though pretty is a feature | |
| <popey> i only just found out that the junk mail feature only works if you have spamassassin installed | |
| <popey> (on the desktop) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> doh . | |
| <popey> yeah, wifey has been diligently tagging mails as junk | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ive settled on just allowing messagelabs to do its job. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello Jono | |
| <popey> moo jono | |
| <popey> I run mailscanner on popey.com | |
| <popey> works very nicely | |
| <jono> hey | |
| <popey> catches vast quantities of spam | |
| <popey> mostly from my adoring fans like jono | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <jono> heh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I really should get my membership form up now. ive been sitting on it for a week just chewing the cud over content. | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so Jono how does a day where youre not running like a blue arsed fly feel. | |
| <popey> nah, you can milk a good half dozen blog posts out of that ;) | |
| <jono> LoudMouthMan, there is no such day :P | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well popey I learn on ly from the best. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mind you being desperate for work helps ! | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> that really annoyed you didn't it? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no <grin> | |
| <popey> I have seen at least two blog posts that allude to that comment I made :) | |
| <popey> unless I am just reading too much into it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you are this time. | |
| <popey> ok | |
| <popey> hahah "this time " | |
| <popey> you are funny | |
| <popey> [FACT] | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and im loud mouth man ,. since when do I allude ? | |
| <popey> I am considering taking up the amazon dvd rental thing | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im about as personally subtle as stepping in dog poo ! | |
| <popey> and set aside an evening a week for viewing pleasure, then post the dvd back and hopefully get one again for the next week | |
| <jono> time for The West Wing | |
| <jono> night all! | |
| <popey> play catch up with all those films I have not seen from recently | |
| <popey> nn jono | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Jono which season ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh .. hes gone | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Its Studio60 for us . | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> it's bed for me | |
| * popey updates his amazon wish list | |
| <LoudMouthMan> great that just leaves me to be abused by phated on LR | |
| * popey contemplates putting it in the /topic of this channel :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> what youre wish list? | |
| <popey> yeah :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> feck off put it on your Wikipage... Dear Santaworth.. for Xmas I would like. | |
| <popey> http://popey.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WishList already have one :) | |
| <popey> http://popey.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IMDBTop250List is the list of DVDs I want | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I meant on your Ubuntu one. | |
| <popey> ahhh | |
| <popey> top plan | |
| * popey does so :) | |
| <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/ref=cs_nav_top_wl/203-5160729-1358324 does that url work? | |
| <popey> does it show my name at the top "this list is for Alan (popey) Pope" ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> um hang on | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> um Sugababes? Posh Spice ? | |
| <popey> no | |
| <popey> not mine | |
| <popey> must be yours :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well it has 24 in it . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so no that url is not your wishlist. | |
| <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/29FWHGD2GAECA | |
| <popey> how about that? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah they dont exactly make it as easy as rss do they | |
| <popey> had to email myself | |
| <LoudMouthMan> thats better. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> freakonomics .. yeah sokay ooh fargo ! | |
| <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanPope \o/ added at the bottom :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> haha | |
| <popey> I blame you | |
| <LoudMouthMan> thats okay | |
| <LoudMouthMan> most do . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ive given up updating doing mine. theres simply nothing I want. or that i really want. ive spent a few years now just bored with everything ... | |
| <popey> i know what you mean | |
| <LoudMouthMan> up updating .. sigh good thing phated aint in this channel | |
| <popey> I only do it because people ask me what I want | |
| <popey> I am apparently hard to buy for | |
| <popey> bah | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah I get asked alot I just say if you dont know me well enough then its okay not to bother. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> indeed. | |
| <popey> personally I couldn't care if I get nothing | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and those who know me well enough just get me booze . | |
| <popey> although I would quite like to get http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=mug | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah worrying a bit really aint it. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hahah nice. | |
| <popey> my brother in law called up and told me his wife thinks I am wierd/odd/strange | |
| <popey> I asked why, and he said "it's your amazon wish list" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I realised it for what it was about 10 months ago. I was really just bored by everything and that was the root to my depression at the time. | |
| <popey> I looked at it again and thought - nothing really odd in there - she was worried about the nuclear stuff and london underground stuff | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes well if thats the only thing shes drawing o n! | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> well she does know me | |
| <popey> he then said there was loads on there he wanted too | |
| <popey> so I asked him to ask her if she thought he was odd | |
| <popey> "oh no, just you Alan" | |
| <popey> bah | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so why didnt you say sister as opposed to brother in laws wife. that was interesting how you did that. | |
| <popey> because she isn't my sister ;p | |
| <popey> in fact thiking about it they aren't married | |
| * LoudMouthMan head splodey ! | |
| <popey> my wifes brother called me | |
| <popey> his bird is no relation to me | |
| <popey> ergo - his wife | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh that makes more sense. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so its been kinda quiet list and irc and wiki wise lately. | |
| <popey> yeah | |
| <popey> I will announce the screencasts I have done tomorrow | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i figured if we had not new momentum before the end of the week I was going to ask around and start doing things. | |
| <popey> cool | |
| <popey> have a look through the to do list | |
| <popey> I note neuro_ is down to look at cd duplicators | |
| <popey> maybe give him a poke (with a really sharp poking stick) and see if he is interested or volunteer others? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well the to do list from the agenda of last meeting was my goal so that we could see it having moved. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mind you last LUG meeting and BCF do was good for new blood to maillist and IRC activity. theres actually more Sussex and Ox luggers online now. | |
| <popey> do you have a sussex irc channel? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no . we decided to get people into lugradio and build the exisitng community | |
| <LoudMouthMan> we did discuss it though . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> likewise I pointed to the Ubuntu activity and encouraged others ( Fay always picks this up ) to look to their own distro usage and be more active on any level other than reading. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Monday nights: sigh .. I recreate the Agenda for BNI friday morning meeting, I need a better source of good inspirational business quotes ! | |
| <Seeker`> BNI? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> man I really should teach the BOT about BNI . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Seeker um BNI is Business network international its like a masons lite. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Seeker: its a place where I go and talk about my business ( Reduced Hackers ) and how I use open source to get answers to other members needs. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> by every week presenting something useful, especially if its open source , I get people asking useful and productive questions which lead them to look at Ubuntu. | |
| * LoudMouthMan makes not to add that to my membership application. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> So Popey , if I um blog about wish lists, do you promise not to read anything into it ? | |
| <Seeker`> blah | |
| <LoudMouthMan> blah ? |