| <wikityler> when i used suse, i could open a window and log on as another user in that window, while still logged in as me in the background. I don't know what that's called, but can i do it in ubuntu? | |
| <somerville32> Yup. | |
| <wikityler> care to elaborate? :) | |
| *** foofffffffffffff is now known as Simon80 | |
| <wikityler> when i used suse, i could open a window and log on as another user in that window, while still logged in as me in the background. I don't know what that's called, but can i do it in ubuntu? | |
| <somerville32> Oh, sorry | |
| <somerville32> You need to enable xdmcp and then connect to it using xnest I believe | |
| <SpacePuppy> wikityler: yes use the command su first.. such as su wikityler | |
| <wikityler> that still leaves me in a teminal. i'm looking for a gui | |
| <wikityler> like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KDM-Xnest.jpg , but i can''t wrap my heads arround xnest | |
| <SpacePuppy> from there lol.. i had a great howto a couple of years back.. hang on | |
| <SpacePuppy> http://www.xs4all.nl/~matto/xnest.html | |
| <SpacePuppy> well, I'm afk to watch bsg s03e09 | |
| <wikityler> thanks, ill try that | |
| *** PFA is now known as EBM | |
| *** EBM is now known as PFA | |
| <Simon80> ebm? | |
| <SpacePuppy> i can guess what the e and m are.., but the B.. hmm.. | |
| <SpacePuppy> Belinda | |
| <SpacePuppy> Bailey | |
| <SpacePuppy> Bambi ?? | |
| <Simon80> oh, I get it | |
| <SpacePuppy> this third season of BSG is getting kind of weird.. too much character development, not enough cylons | |
| <lophyte> hi all | |
| <SpacePuppy> yo dave | |
| <SpacePuppy> how was da'caffe tonight? any turnout? | |
| <lophyte> a few people turned out... ended up a discussion rather than a workshop | |
| * somerville32 is watching BSG right now. | |
| <lophyte> BSG? | |
| *** somerville32_ is now known as somerville32 | |
| <SpacePuppy> BattleStarGalatica | |
| <lophyte> oh | |
| <SpacePuppy> feel free to move the letter c in that to wherever you feel comfortable | |
| <stryderjzw> Is that on tonight? | |
| <SpacePuppy> depends on where you is... I was actually watching last nights. | |
| <stryderjzw> aw shucks, gonna have to catch the rerun tomorrow :) | |
| <SpacePuppy> it's still the best series goin right now.. the last episode ago rocked! | |
| <PFA> i am rockin | |
| *** fooooooooooooooo is now known as Simon80 | |
| <matjan> PFA, whatcha rockin on? | |
| <PFA> i dunno | |
| <PFA> i'm just bored | |
| <SpacePuppy> rockin and rollin all night long!! | |
| <matjan> :) | |
| <somerville32> Lets talk about how we can promote Ubuntu is Canada :) | |
| <SpacePuppy> holy crap is my building loud tonight.. girl next door is playin music loud and I've never heard he play any music before, people down the hall are having a party, people on the street are singiing.. what's going on.?? | |
| <matjan> SpacePuppy, people are happy winter has finally arrived? | |
| <SpacePuppy> hey lophyte, have you had a chance to price the printing of those posters? | |
| <SpacePuppy> matjan: yup.. and I'm eating like a pig tonight too.. :( | |
| <matjan> :) | |
| <matjan> does anyone know if/how you can make an xterm transparent? | |
| <lokimisha> hello all | |
| <somerville32> hi | |
| <lokimisha> finally got my broadcom wireless card to work,,, | |
| <paul__> what did you have to do | |
| <lokimisha> does anyone have Songbird installed? | |
| <lokimisha> I am getting "error" when trying to play my mp3s. it imports fine into the library though | |
| <somerville32> Did you install the codecs? | |
| <lokimisha> ah ha... nope, just downloaded Songbird, installed and tried to play... lol | |
| <lokimisha> can someone point me in the right direction? | |
| <somerville32> !restricted | lokimisha | |
| <ubotu> lokimisha: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | |
| <lokimisha> gotcha... | |
| <lokimisha> thanks for the links | |
| <matjan> songbird looks pretty nice | |
| <jamonation> lophyte: about to head to the caffe (when it opens) | |
| <jamonation> so I'll get david to update nameservers | |
| <lophyte> cool | |
| <lophyte> I'm installing bind now, in between broadcast messages :P | |
| <jamonation> lol | |
| <lophyte> I wonder if we should upgrade to plan 128 | |
| <jamonation> still waiting to hear back from the toronto vmware offer dude | |
| <lophyte> that'd be like $12/month each | |
| <jamonation> right | |
| <lophyte> can you send me that link for pcmcia wireless cards? | |
| <jamonation> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ | |
| <jamonation> get an atheros, prismgt, or rt2500 card | |
| <jamonation> DWL-G122 by dlink is a usb ralink rt2500 adapter | |
| <jamonation> on this page: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link | |
| <lophyte> hm | |
| <lophyte> the netgear wg511 is cheap, but the chipset varies... | |
| <lophyte> and the one at factorydirect is a v2. which looks like hit-and-miss | |
| <jamonation> i have a wg511 | |
| <jamonation> if you go that route, get the wg511t | |
| <lophyte> http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=NE0510 | |
| <lophyte> that one? | |
| <jamonation> make sure the chipset is ok, but yeah, I think so | |
| <lophyte> looks fine on the wireless list | |
| <jamonation> i'd get it, cardbus, pcmcia, it's a new enough system it doesn't matter | |
| <lophyte> cool | |
| <lophyte> I'll take the laptop with me to make sure it works | |
| <jamonation> yeah, factory direct are idiots | |
| <jamonation> bind is done? I'm leaving for the cafe, will make a nice anmed.conf file? | |
| <lophyte> I'm working on the zone files now | |
| <jamonation> ok, you got all the domains? do a few test subdomains too, like trac.metalug, mailman.metalug etc. | |
| <lophyte> yeah | |
| <jamonation> biab | |
| <lophyte> hey rexbron | |
| <rexbron> hey lophyte | |
| <lophyte> how's it going? | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: I am really tired, I have been working on a 4th year production | |
| <rexbron> for the last two days | |
| <rexbron> and have worked 24 of those last 48 | |
| <rexbron> I told them that I cant be there today as I have to work on assignments | |
| <lophyte> hehe | |
| <rexbron> but on monday and tuesday, back to helping | |
| <jamonation> you're in that sweet lucid sort of zone though now I bet :) | |
| <lophyte> I envy youy | |
| <rexbron> lol | |
| <lophyte> hmm.. | |
| <rexbron> yesterday I worked as a boom op, my backand and arms ache | |
| <lophyte> ouch | |
| <rexbron> lol, whats a backand? | |
| <lophyte> a guy from the ubuntu-ca mailing list sent me a message.. he seems offended that my replies to Cathy's email about NPOs and your email about the guy on the film were "toronto-centric" | |
| <jamonation> ouch | |
| <lophyte> he said he had no reason to believe that cathy or you were from toronto | |
| <lophyte> I replied and told him that you're both active members and thus of course, my replies are 'toronto-centric' | |
| <lophyte> dunno if I'm doing something wrong or what | |
| <lophyte> what do you think? | |
| <lophyte> jamonation: what are the subdomains you need for metalug? | |
| <jamonation> welp, let's see, just locate, contact, about, promote, and resources | |
| <jamonation> as well as mailman and trac | |
| <jamonation> (for now) :) | |
| <lophyte> I might as well just set up a wildcard.. | |
| <jamonation> how does that work? | |
| <lophyte> *.metalug.com -> 64.142.120.49 | |
| * oqp launches metalhugs.com | |
| <lophyte> haha | |
| <jamonation> woot | |
| <jamonation> hey so what does this line mean ? | |
| <jamonation> @ IN SOA ns1.metalug.com. hostmaster.metalug.com. | |
| <lophyte> start of authority | |
| <jamonation> there is not ns1.metalug? | |
| <lophyte> sure there is :) | |
| <lophyte> like I said, its a wildcard | |
| <jamonation> or is that it :) | |
| <lophyte> *.metalug.com -> 64.142.120.49 | |
| <lophyte> so ns1 will resolve to the IP | |
| <jamonation> right, got it | |
| <jamonation> that won't create a loop in dns lookups will it ? the nameserver pointing to the same machine? | |
| <lophyte> nope | |
| <jamonation> cool | |
| <jamonation> just reading the howtoforge on dns | |
| <jamonation> strange I just realized that they use drupal... | |
| <lophyte> woot.. that's simple. | |
| <lophyte> sudo sed -e 's/metalug.com/metalug.net/' metalug.com > metalug.net | |
| <jamonation> and .org and .ca | |
| <lophyte> yup.. done | |
| <jamonation> what's the -e for? i always use sed without it | |
| <lophyte> oh, can you? | |
| <jamonation> i think so | |
| <jamonation> "If no -e, --expression, -f, or --file option is given, then the first non- option argument is taken as the sed script to interpret. | |
| <lophyte> lophyte@vps:~$ ping locate.metalug.com | |
| <lophyte> PING locate.metalug.com (64.142.120.49): 56 data bytes | |
| <lophyte> voila :) | |
| <jamonation> " | |
| <jamonation> is that from the box? | |
| <lophyte> lophyte@vps:~$ ping whatever-you-want.metalug.com | |
| <lophyte> PING whatever-you-want.metalug.com (64.142.120.49): 56 data bytes | |
| <lophyte> yay wildcards | |
| <lophyte> yup | |
| <jamonation> right, now to get david to get me logged into the registrar | |
| <lophyte> yeah :) | |
| <jamonation> he's disappeared | |
| <jamonation> into the ether | |
| <lophyte> there... foodforge.ca/net/org set up too | |
| <lophyte> hey, how much do I owe you for the box? | |
| <jamonation> well, I guess $8 for now | |
| <lophyte> alright | |
| <jamonation> but we could upgrade it,let's wait for the toronto vmware dude though | |
| <jamonation> umm, how do I logout of the ubuntu wiki? | |
| <lophyte> should be a log out link | |
| <jamonation> i looked, even searched with firefox | |
| <jamonation> i'll just rm my cookie | |
| <jamonation> bah | |
| <lophyte> oh | |
| <lophyte> you have to go to UserPreferences | |
| <lophyte> jamonation: we're thinking about branching the Video project off as a separate thing... | |
| <lophyte> since there is only a certain subset of members that are interested in working on it | |
| <jamonation> oh, I got a mail message that bounced from your email server | |
| <jamonation> I'll forward it to your gmail | |
| <jamonation> tha tsounds excellent | |
| <jamonation> did I mention my desire to drive across the country in a vw microbus giving out ubuntu cds next summer? | |
| <lophyte> so we'll have separate meetings about it.. but still perhaps bring it up at the regular ubuntu-to meetings to get some ideas | |
| <lophyte> haha, yeah you did | |
| <jamonation> sounds good | |
| <lophyte> we were talking about it the other day | |
| <jamonation> right, i loose track of these things | |
| <lophyte> rexbron: ping | |
| <lophyte> argh... | |
| <lophyte> I gotta migrate my local copy of foodforge to mysql | |
| <lophyte> jamonation: what do you think of that 'toronto-centric' comment? | |
| <jamonation> i think you should point the person to the wiki page for canadianteams | |
| <jamonation> i also think that as bad as it sounds, we can't try to please everyone and this guy sounds like a troll | |
| <jamonation> though I haven't read the email so I can't really say | |
| <jamonation> perhaps ask him to step up and get his area organized | |
| <somerville32> I wanna get something rolling in New Brunswick. | |
| <lophyte> if cathy and andrew were not in Toronto, I wouldn't have mentioned Toronto | |
| <lophyte> but considering they are, I mentioned Toronto because that is where our efforts are focused | |
| <lophyte> somerville32: you should :) | |
| <jamonation> somerville32: what are some things you want to accomplish? | |
| <lophyte> its not hard at all.. just pick a location, a date, a time, and advertise it | |
| <jamonation> try upcoming.org, local papers, even local radio | |
| <lophyte> if you build it, they will come ;) | |
| <jamonation> exactly! | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <jamonation> hey, when editing the wiki, everyone, use spell check! | |
| <jamonation> or firefox's spell check | |
| <lophyte> jamonation: check your inbox | |
| <jamonation> got it | |
| <jamonation> one sec | |
| <lophyte> jamonation: I already replied and he replied back | |
| <jamonation> I just sent you another | |
| <lophyte> check your private message | |
| <lophyte> rexbron: ping | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: pong | |
| <lophyte> rexbron: what was the name of that editing app you mentioned on wednesday? | |
| <rexbron> there were two, cinelerra and jahshaka | |
| <lophyte> jahshaka, thats it.. | |
| <rexbron> myles and I are looking to package cinelerra for Ubuntu | |
| <rexbron> as Jahshaka already has its own repos | |
| <lophyte> hehe, big job | |
| <lophyte> if you need help, let me know | |
| <rexbron> myles said that he was setting up a remote dev box | |
| <lophyte> I know a *bit* about packaging, but I'm no expert | |
| <rexbron> so neither of us has to bloat our systems with dev stuff | |
| <lophyte> that's why you use a chroot | |
| <lophyte> with pbuilder | |
| <lophyte> so you don't bloat your system.. you have a separate gzipped install for development | |
| <lophyte> also, make sure nobody else is already tackling it ;) | |
| <lophyte> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html | |
| <lophyte> if you haven't read it already | |
| <rexbron> I still need some mentoring | |
| <rexbron> and har disk space is at a premium right now | |
| <lophyte> ah | |
| <rexbron> I am trying to figure out why ubuntu will not let me resize my non-extended partition | |
| <rexbron> s | |
| <lophyte> well, next meet, or some time in between, we can meet up and I can show you what I know, if that helps any | |
| <rexbron> basically, I want to resize my root parition, and add the space to my home partition | |
| <rexbron> but qtparted wants me to format both! | |
| <lophyte> mmmm multigrain tostitos | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: I brought up on the mailing list the idea of opening an Ubuntu Toronto bank account | |
| <rexbron> thoughts? | |
| <lophyte> I'm not sure.. it depends on what our needs are | |
| <lophyte> its a good idea if we need to start raising money | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: If we want to attend conferences/expos, we might need money | |
| <rexbron> as well as it would pay for things like sponcership space (jill talked about this at the last meeting) | |
| <lophyte> attending conferences and expos is minor.. that can be paid ourselves | |
| <lophyte> or we call the organizers of the event and barter with them | |
| <lophyte> offer to scratch their back if they give us booth space, or something | |
| <lophyte> hey jamon.. having issues? | |
| <jamonation> indeed | |
| <jamonation> damn some wireless | |
| <jamonation> soma | |
| <jamonation> we're on clue now | |
| <jamonation> w00t! | |
| <jamonation> lophyte: ping | |
| <lophyte> yup :) | |
| <jamonation> need a hand with dns for a sec | |
| <rexbron> shoot | |
| <lophyte> we need to have an ubuntu video meeting.. | |
| <rexbron> yes | |
| <rexbron> we do | |
| <rexbron> I will bring the formated scripts | |
| <rexbron> but when is the question | |
| <rexbron> and what kind of budget do you think we would have for it | |
| <rexbron> (example: The Rocketman has a budget of $10 000, pro actors working pro-bono, decent lights and equipment | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: We would HAVE to shoot on video | |
| <rexbron> shooting film then transfering would be about $200 | |
| <rexbron> but low quality video looks bad | |
| <rexbron> and I mean really bad | |
| <lophyte> I know :P | |
| <rexbron> I am creating a wiki page to outline my issues and discuss how we are to solve them | |
| <lophyte> I've shot 15 minute short films on a $100 budget | |
| <lophyte> its doable with the right connections | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: the thing is, bad video = bad product | |
| <rexbron> I will try and pimp some people I know for equipment | |
| <lophyte> right, we had full equipment sets | |
| <lophyte> equipment is cheap | |
| <lophyte> if you have a membership at a video co-op | |
| <lophyte> if we can't get equipment donated to us like I've done in the past... we can rent from a co-op | |
| <lophyte> and since all of our ideas are 30-90 seconds, we should shoot 3 of them in a day | |
| <lophyte> s/should/court | |
| <lophyte> ...oi | |
| <lophyte> could* | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Toronto/UbuntuVideo/Burned | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: If we need studio space, I might be able to book it | |
| <lophyte> studio for what? | |
| <rexbron> for any of the productions | |
| <rexbron> as in, if we needed a sound stage will OK lights | |
| <jamonation> don't forget david patrick :) | |
| <rexbron> jamonation: ? | |
| <rexbron> for the video's, I think that he should be included/ | |
| <jamonation> linuxcaffe david, you know, the one with 20 years of contacts, experience, and equipment ? | |
| <rexbron> lol | |
| <rexbron> did not know that | |
| <rexbron> would be good | |
| <jamonation> heh, he's a great asset for the project | |
| <jamonation> you should come in sometime this week and we can all sit down with him | |
| <rexbron> sometime after tuesday as I am working on a shoot Monday and Tuesday | |
| <jamonation> right, then there's the sleeping part once you crash | |
| <jamonation> but sometime for sure | |
| <lophyte> lol | |
| <lophyte> I don't think we need a sound stage.. that's a bit overboard | |
| <rexbron> ARRRHGGGGG | |
| <rexbron> Open office crashed and took my work with it! | |
| <rexbron> the damn recovery funtion basically loaded the last saved version | |
| <jamonation> try staroffice, you get a free copy as a student | |
| <rexbron> is there anyway to actually recover a document | |
| <rexbron> what is star office? | |
| <jamonation> star office is essentially openoffice | |
| <rexbron> and the damn thing crashed during the save | |
| <jamonation> star office is developed by sun, most of it's developers work on openoffice too | |
| <jamonation> just more polish, stability | |
| <jamonation> oo is essentially a free star office | |
| <jamonation> but students and teachers can dl a free copy of star office | |
| <jamonation> i've had crashes destroy 15 pages worth of work sometimes | |
| <jamonation> which is why I switched | |
| <rexbron> hmm ok | |
| <jamonation> check for temp files in .openoffice.org2/ | |
| <rexbron> temp dir is empty | |
| <rexbron> and the backup dir is just the last saved version | |
| <oqp> star office might be free to download, but it's not Free Software. OO.org is. | |
| <rexbron> I see | |
| <rexbron> the really anoying thing is it crashed while I was saving! | |
| <jamonation> yeah | |
| <jamonation> oqp: iknow what you mean, but it is free as in cost, and I feel pretty free do do what I want with it | |
| <jamonation> if I want to get into it, i could work on oo.org and get those changes submitted to soffice | |
| <jamonation> so practically speaking, it's free enough and just works better | |
| <oqp> it comes with source? | |
| <oqp> I didn't know that. | |
| <jamonation> no I don't think so, but because oo.org is essentiall the same thing... | |
| <oqp> how do you submit changes then? | |
| <jamonation> who knows though, with the open source java thing | |
| * oqp is confused | |
| <oqp> but that's ok :) | |
| <jamonation> well, I think you'd contribue to oo.org and if your features are polished enough, you could get sun to put them in soffice | |
| <jamonation> since the developers for soffice from sun are the ones mostly behing oo.org too | |
| <jamonation> both suites are based on the same codebase | |
| <tonyyarusso> are there mtg minutes from the 29th up yet? | |
| <lophyte> I've been considering using AbiWord instead | |
| <lophyte> nope, not yet | |
| <tonyyarusso> k | |
| <lophyte> I have to email Cathy, who was taking notes | |
| <jamonation> oqp: "Sun then went through an exercise similar to Netscape's release of Mozilla by open-sourcing most of the StarOffice code-base. The resultant open-source codebase is developed as OpenOffice.org and is contributed to by both Sun and the open source community. Sun then takes a "snapshot" of the OpenOffice.org code base, integrates proprietary and third-party code modules and markets the package commercially. | |
| <jamonation> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice | |
| <oqp> yeah, I know that already. | |
| <jamonation> ok | |
| <jamonation> i'll stop :) | |
| <oqp> do you know the 4 pillars of free software? | |
| <lophyte> is that like the ten commandments? | |
| <oqp> Small point, netscape wrote navigator, whereas sun bought star office. | |
| <oqp> lophyte euh, the four freedoms: access to the source, can redistribute, learn from it, modify it | |
| <lophyte> ah, I see. | |
| <jamonation> but again, practically speaking, do you spend time hacking on the source so it won't crash, or use what is essentially the same thing, less free, but doesn't crash? | |
| <oqp> jamonation not just me. | |
| <jamonation> and get your work done, which is the object of the whole exercise | |
| <oqp> I don't have to be a coder. | |
| <oqp> it means, I can go to anyone and have to code fixed. | |
| <oqp> that's what is so great about free software / open source. | |
| <oqp> free market and all that. | |
| <jamonation> right, but that time would be better spent just doing your work, any extratime after, by all means, get the code fixed | |
| <jamonation> don't get me wrong here, I'm totally a stallmanite | |
| <jamonation> but when it comes to some small things, like personal use of software, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter too much what you do with it | |
| <oqp> sure it does. It's all about breaking potential monopolies. | |
| <oqp> like your plumbing in your house. | |
| <oqp> any plumber can fix it, not just the one that put it in. | |
| <rexbron> oqp: That analogy is a litle over simplefied | |
| <oqp> how so? | |
| <rexbron> not every coder knows every language | |
| <oqp> yeah | |
| <rexbron> and software is considerably more complex than plubling | |
| <oqp> you have to get the right plumber, of course. | |
| <jamonation> you don't have to at all because it isn't broken... soffice is rock solid, does the job, and it is pretty much so close to oofice that you can get support for free | |
| <rexbron> time is need to _understand_ the code, otherwise you might end up with a product that is worse than when you startd | |
| <oqp> so you're saying software _has_ to be fixed by the people who created it? | |
| <jamonation> it doesn't have to be fixed is my point... | |
| <oqp> take the linux kernel | |
| <rexbron> oqp: no, but generally, they understand it the best | |
| <oqp> it's complicated. | |
| <oqp> but not one company has a monopoly on it. | |
| <rexbron> oqp: It is an oligarcy | |
| <oqp> potentially, anyone can fix it. There are 1000's of kernel hackers. | |
| <rexbron> Yes potentially | |
| <rexbron> but look at suspend2 | |
| <oqp> you can use suspend2 | |
| <oqp> a distro can ship it, etc. | |
| <oqp> it doesn't have to be in the official tree to serve. | |
| <rexbron> ubuntu does not ship it because it is not in the mainline kernel | |
| <rexbron> and they do not to have to merge two trees | |
| <oqp> jamonation soffice is the exception. Usually, software ships with bugs. | |
| <jamonation> but this discussion started with soffice with it's focus | |
| <oqp> rexbron that's ubuntu's choice. Another distro can choose differently. | |
| <oqp> if it were closed software, nobody would have a choice. | |
| <rexbron> true | |
| * jamonation wonders where the constant turmoil around choice and reiserfs comes into this (if at all) | |
| <rexbron> point being, is that the advantage of having things accepted by the original creators/ maintainers is that it gets to people faster and you are much more likly to have adoption | |
| <rexbron> whats the point of open source is no one can get your source | |
| <rexbron> *if | |
| <oqp> and if maintainer/creator is an asshole, things have a chance of getting fixed too, as in xfree / x.org | |
| <rexbron> thats a fork, and there tends to be bad blood around forks (not all but most) | |
| <rexbron> mylesbraithwaite: How goes the remote dev box thing? | |
| <oqp> who still ships with xfree ? | |
| <jamonation> puppy or dsl I think | |
| <jamonation> maybe some other smaller variant | |
| <oqp> hmm | |
| <jamonation> dsl is definitely something strange | |
| <rexbron> at least with suspend2 many people are hesitant to ship with something that has not be approved by upstream | |
| <rexbron> because it can create problems down the road | |
| <rexbron> when one has to merge the two trees | |
| <oqp> rexbron yeah, there are technical problems. | |
| <rexbron> how do you do that * thing? | |
| <oqp> /me does | |
| <lophyte> what * thing? | |
| * rexbron jumpes for joy at the new discovery | |
| <oqp> with /me yada yada | |
| <lophyte> oh | |
| <oqp> :) | |
| <rexbron> frigg, this discussion is internesting but it does not help me get back the work that I lost | |
| <jamonation> a keylogger would... | |
| * rexbron puts his nose back to the grindstone | |
| <oqp> rexbron save more often... sorry about your loss. | |
| <oqp> wow, that sounded way too serious.... | |
| <rexbron> heres the thing, OO crashed while trying to save two documents | |
| <rexbron> and lost one | |
| <oqp> learn latex and get a real editor | |
| <rexbron> ..... | |
| <oqp> all this free software talk makes me want to return to my code. It was a nice chat but I have some work to do as well. | |
| <jamonation> lol, don't we all | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: My final film project for next semester is looking at costing about $300 | |
| <rexbron> that covers just the processing and film stock | |
| <lophyte> they're not cheap :) | |
| *** jamonati1n is now known as jamonation | |
| <rexbron> acutally, that is pretty cheap compared to some 3rd and 4th year productions (costing around 5 to 10 grand) | |
| <lophyte> well | |
| <lophyte> $300 plus other costs | |
| <rexbron> it would be more if not for the contract with actra | |
| <lophyte> locations, catering, equipment, etc. | |
| <rexbron> basically, you get pro actors for free, but if you sell the film you need to pay them union wages (20$ an hour for extras much more for leads) | |
| <lophyte> oi.. I miss the film scene | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: Can you confirm this, create a spreadsheet and a word prosessing document and copy data from the spread sheet into the word processor | |
| <rexbron> that crashes both of them on my machine | |
| <rexbron> and they crashed silently | |
| <rexbron> I would be nice if anyone else could confirm it too | |
| <matjan> rexbron, in openoffice? | |
| <rexbron> yes | |
| <matjan> dapper or edgy? | |
| <rexbron> edgy | |
| <matjan> ahh.. i run dapper | |
| <matjan> want me to try anyways? | |
| <rexbron> could you see if its there too? | |
| <rexbron> yes | |
| <matjan> sure | |
| <matjan> one minute | |
| <matjan> no problem here it seems | |
| <matjan> i pasted some numbers and a graph of them... no problem | |
| <stryderjzw> rexbron: I have edgy and there doesn't seem to be a problem... | |
| <rexbron> I will try restarting X and clearing the ram | |
| <lophyte> works fine here. | |
| <rexbron> and see if the problem dissappears | |
| <matjan> ok |
