| <adhoc> anyhow, the moral of our little "story" is not to bother sysadmins for you are crunchy and good with red sauce | |
| <flaccid> ok | |
| <lucychili> loon | |
| * adhoc should write that "story" up properly one day | |
| <purserj> yes and submit it to BoFH | |
| <adhoc> perhaps draw up some of the "fictional" characters | |
| <adhoc> purserj: pfffft, this story was first told before bofh became popular | |
| <adhoc> this story was inspired by other stories from the "Chunky | |
| <adhoc> "Chunky Custard Workshop Files" | |
| <adhoc> which was a similarly tall collection of tales of folks in I.T. | |
| <purserj> and in the mean time, I actually seem to have gotten x2x to work | |
| <adhoc> cool =) | |
| <adhoc> i use it from my work desktop to control xinput on my latop | |
| <purserj> Well I'm basically using my laptop as a remote control for my server when I use it as a media machine | |
| <purserj> now to get mythtv setup properly | |
| <adhoc> cunning plan =) | |
| <fildo> morning all | |
| <adhoc> mornen fildo | |
| <purserj> keeps the kids entertained | |
| <fildo> morning adhoc | |
| <fildo> how is ya mate | |
| <adhoc> fildo: it is a very loverly sunday mornen with good coffee, good food, fine company and sunshine | |
| <adhoc> painted bike parts are drying on the clothes line | |
| <adhoc> all is right with the world... | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <fildo> u living in heaven | |
| <adhoc> almost | |
| <fildo> cause sydney certainly aint like that today | |
| <adhoc> its a little windy, sunny and about 26° | |
| <fildo> Current weather for Sydney Airport : Retrieving weather data..., Temperature: , Pressure: , Wind: | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <fildo> Current weather for Sydney Airport : Scattered clouds at 1097 meters, Temperature: 17°C, Pressure: 1018 hPa, Wind: 35 km/h S | |
| <fildo> that could be better | |
| <fildo> im bloody cold | |
| <adhoc> thats a tad on the cool side | |
| <adhoc> but diversity is why you learn to appreciate the perfect day ;) | |
| <adhoc> its been too hot, too windy, too cold, all in the last week! | |
| <adhoc> ok, gotta shoot more paint on the bike, BRB | |
| <siccness> Did there end up being an update for W.A Daylight Savings? | |
| <adhoc> siccness: purserj didn't seem to think so | |
| <siccness> :| | |
| <incon> other distro's have fixed this daylight saving problem why not ubuntu ? | |
| <incon> do we have to make the mod to the system ourselfs | |
| <siccness> I guess so. | |
| <Tatey> fella's | |
| <siccness> Tatey | |
| <Tatey> [tate@fillets ~]$ uname -sr | |
| <Tatey> Linux 2.6.19-ARCH | |
| <Tatey> ^_^ | |
| <purserj> no update as far as I can see | |
| <purserj> got a flash update thought :/ | |
| <siccness> Tatey: Heheh | |
| <siccness> Tatey: I'm gonna hold off another day before I recompile | |
| <Tatey> as if recompile :P | |
| * siccness smacz teh tateyz | |
| <Tatey> that's not very nice :( | |
| <siccness> Heheh | |
| <siccness> URL: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.19.tar.bz2 | |
| <siccness> Your request has been stored and will be checked manually before being mirrored. You will be contacted via email when the local version is available. | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya all | |
| <Tatey> hi :) | |
| <merlin-linux> how are hings Tatey | |
| <merlin-linux> s/hings/things | |
| <Tatey> good mate | |
| <spence> doin real well in the cricket NOT!!! | |
| <spence> Is there a hotkey sequence defined for opening a terminal window? | |
| <spence> can't find one here :- http://allhotkeys.com/unix_linux_hotkeys.html or here http://allhotkeys.com/ubuntu_hotkeys.html | |
| <iodine> anyone handy with grub console | |
| <iodine> I need to change a device from hda1 to sda3 for my root= variable | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> press E | |
| <siccness> don't forget the great use of tab-completiion for grub console :) | |
| <iodine> it looks like it put /dev/hda1 for my root= | |
| *** spence is now known as struth | |
| <iodine> yet the devices.map has /dev/sda etc | |
| <iodine> for hd0 | |
| <iodine> hrmm | |
| <iodine> installer screwed up | |
| <iodine> now i get cannot mount selected partitation | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> woot. * NickServ set your hostname to "unafilliated/kgoetz" | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser runs arround to 'chariots of fire' | |
| <iodine> this is driving me nuts | |
| <iodine> never had so many issues | |
| <iodine> why did they have to bring out sata controllers | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <iodine> stuff just worked previously | |
| <siccness> Bahaha | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> can you boot, or are you at grub promp? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *t | |
| <iodine> at grub | |
| <iodine> can't boot anything | |
| *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <iodine> sda = sata250 | |
| <iodine> sdb = sata250 drives | |
| <siccness> It took me about 1hr to work out why i couldnt boot my sata drive, forgot to add doscsi :) | |
| <iodine> sda has my boot/root/swap/home | |
| <iodine> where do I add that | |
| <siccness> to your grub.conf/menu.lst file | |
| <siccness> whatever ubuntu uses | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> menu.lst | |
| <siccness> here's an example: kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.18 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda3 doscsi | |
| <siccness> initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.18 | |
| <iodine> ok thanks | |
| <iodine> do you need doscsi for grub memory thing too | |
| <iodine> I guess so | |
| <siccness> wth is grub memory thing? | |
| <iodine> the 3rd boot item | |
| <iodine> memory checker form boot | |
| <siccness> Oh | |
| <siccness> memtest86 | |
| <siccness> you shouldnt need to, no. | |
| <iodine> ahuh | |
| <iodine> thats it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, whats doscsi? | |
| <siccness> from what i read, allows you to boot scsi/sata drives | |
| <siccness> basically loads scsi support | |
| <siccness> (or sata, if you will) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm booting scsi fine | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no extra frills on the install either | |
| <siccness> hmm | |
| <iodine> File not found | |
| <iodine> same issue | |
| <iodine> it cant see /boot | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, did you change both lines of the menu entry? | |
| <iodine> memtest86 dont even work | |
| <iodine> so thats an indication for you | |
| <iodine> hang 5 | |
| <iodine> I see what you mean | |
| <iodine> typo on my part | |
| <iodine> bingo | |
| <iodine> champ | |
| <iodine> oops | |
| <iodine> no go | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <iodine> can't access tty | |
| <iodine> initramfs prompt now | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, did it load the kernel? | |
| <iodine> no idea | |
| <iodine> got a slash then a bomb | |
| <iodine> default bash prompt | |
| <siccness> splash? | |
| <iodine> fancy ubuntu graphic | |
| <iodine> in e mode | |
| <siccness> yup. try and get verbose happenin on it | |
| <iodine> how do I save the changes out | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, when you edit remove 'splash' from the boot options | |
| <iodine> and quiet mode too | |
| <iodine> i think the init/linuxrc is screwing me over | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> nah, leave quiet | |
| <adhoc> thats got to be the worst mask off and paint job i've done =/ | |
| <adhoc> hmmm | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :( | |
| <adhoc> anyhow, whats happening? | |
| <siccness> adhoc: car, or house? | |
| <adhoc> bike | |
| <siccness> heheh | |
| <adhoc> the front forks | |
| <adhoc> you know where the crown meets the downtubes on the fork... | |
| <siccness> adhoc: shoulda seen my effort on an old ford mustang | |
| <iodine> the initrd being used I dont think supports what we are trying to do | |
| <siccness> nah i dunno shit about bikes | |
| <iodine> back to a busybox (initramfs) prompt | |
| <iodine> target filesystem doesn't have /linuxrc | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, yay, your in | |
| <iodine> in but it locks up | |
| <iodine> :( | |
| <iodine> or atleast no drivers to drive usb keyboard | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wishes he could get his hands on iodine 's computer | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> EW | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser runs away from usb keyboard | |
| <iodine> an install using software raid works | |
| <iodine> reboots and works fine | |
| <siccness> usb keyboards/mouses are a waste of a usb port :P | |
| <iodine> using just standard /dev/sda slices and it dont work | |
| <iodine> back on with xp | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, USB keyboards are just a bad idea | |
| <iodine> no way | |
| <iodine> anyways back to problem | |
| <iodine> google some more | |
| * siccness wonders why he cant copy/paste from firefox | |
| <iodine> got an idea | |
| <iodine> see if this fixes it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, you need X first :) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| * iodine pats himself | |
| <iodine> looks good now | |
| <iodine> :) | |
| <iodine> boots but errors once I hit a prompt | |
| <iodine> oh so close now | |
| * iodine_ stabs iodine | |
| <iodine> rofl | |
| <siccness> How does Nautilus show a thumbnail of a powerpoint presentation when there's nothing I can view the ppt file with? | |
| *** iodine is now known as purana | |
| <purana> as if I can still a nick if its registered | |
| <purana> some people are stoopid | |
| *** hantoo is now known as hantu | |
| <purana> looks like all my filesystems didnt mount | |
| <siccness> heh, bigpond were pretty quick and filling my request :| | |
| <purana> its giving errors | |
| <purana> findfs unable to resolve 'UUID=string.....' | |
| <purana> ah | |
| <purana> its in the fstab on the root | |
| <purana> will go remove all those | |
| <purana> strange the fstab by installer put UUID=blahblahblah for all my /dev/sda's | |
| <purana> done deal | |
| <purana> thanks for the help | |
| <purana> :) | |
| <struth> Do I need samba for accessing a windows share folder or is it only needed for windows to access linux files? | |
| *** Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | |
| <struth> I used:- sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=<win login> //ipaddress/sharename /home/libm/dls/itemp | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> struth, you dont need it per se. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> gnome-vfs should handle it | |
| <struth> I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //ipaddress/itemp, | |
| <struth> remote fs is NTFS | |
| <struth> on win box obviously | |
| <purana> mount -t smbfs is kinda depreciated | |
| <purana> I believe you should be using smbmount | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> struth, you need to install smbfs to use mount of smb | |
| <purana> and mount -t smbfs will hit the 2gb limit on file creation against opposite side | |
| <purserj> you need cifs | |
| <purana> pursej: thats it :P | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <purana> someone asked on slug mail list the other day | |
| <purana> I remember | |
| <fildo> cifs isnt that some sexually transmitted diease | |
| <fildo> ;p | |
| <struth> working now thanx | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hi. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No one here? | |
| <onefang> 48 people here, we are just ignoring your "Hi.". | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Thanks. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I use my CF to PCMCIA adapter in edgy? I plugged it in but it doesn't show upon the desktop. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The CF probably isn't formatted as I just got it. | |
| <onefang> The CF is likely formatted as FAT, check that first. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How? | |
| <onefang> Try mounting it manually. fdisk -l might help. | |
| <adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: hi | |
| <onefang> The only other thing I can think of that might help is to plug the CF card into the PCMCIA adaptor first before plugging the adaptor into the computer. | |
| * adhoc pokes onefang, its sunDAY, tinker time | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> onefang: Yeah I did that. | |
| <onefang> Thus endeth my PCMCIA help, I don't have any, so I don't know about them. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What does fdisk -l do? | |
| <onefang> List all the partitions on all your disks, mounted or not. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Well it didn't do that. | |
| <adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: i have one but couldn't get it to work on dapper | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Will the adapter show up in lspci? | |
| <adhoc> PCMCIA is an ISA bus, not PCI | |
| <onefang> Hot plug should report vaguely helpful things to the system logs when you plug it in. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How do I access hotplug? | |
| <onefang> Should be running by default. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Where an earth are the system logs? | |
| <onefang> /var/log/* messages and syslog are the likely ones. | |
| <onefang> I think VT11 is set up to show logs in real time, but that may just be me. | |
| <cafuego_> onefang: not byd efault | |
| <cafuego_> onefang: there's a sample cfg for tty8, but not enabled. | |
| <onefang> Ah, it's just my typical hacking then. | |
| * cafuego_ prefers 'em on the tty9-12 too, last group = logs :-) | |
| <onefang> Exactly. | |
| <cafuego_> kernel/daemon/mail/misc | |
| <hantu> do they still have hotplugs now | |
| <hantu> ? | |
| <siccness> Sweeet, 2.6.19 has K8 Temp Support | |
| <siccness> (k8temp) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It does detect a PC card: [17427672.456000] pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0 | |
| <adhoc> maybe its not got a driver associated with the device? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Probably not. | |
| <adhoc> maybe you need to hack /etc/pcmcia/*ide* config file | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Where could I get a driver | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How would I hack that config file exactly? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The only file in my /etc/pcmcia directory is config.opts | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hello? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I get my CF to PCMCIA adapter working? | |
| *** flaccid_ is now known as flaccid | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Presuming that the adapter is not at fault, how would I go about formatting the card? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kernel/main.php Will this help? | |
| <siccness> thats for kernel 2.4.* | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> This? http://marc2.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-thinkpad&m=112537951117934&w=3 | |
| <siccness> Doubt it. | |
| <siccness> What's this CF to PCMCIA thingo? | |
| <siccness> I'm assuming it's a flash disk type thing? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why? Cos it's redhat stuff? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah, it's a CF card. | |
| <siccness> http://www.notestation.com/cfpccard.htm <--that? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No, not that. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> This is a CF card reader. You plug a CF card into this device and then you plug the device into a PCMCIA slot. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Like so: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.datavis.com/images/CRD/619659015480L.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.datavis.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay%3Fprrfnbr%3D441521%26prmenbr%3D2000&h=200&w=200&sz=10&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=WqCzrCz83QIb8M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCF%2BPCMCIA%2Bcard%2Badapter%26svnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ooops sorry long link. | |
| <siccness> No problems. So it's a PCMCIA CF Card Reader? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yes! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Piccy: http://www.deals101.com/ext/hw/img_500/PCMCIA_CF1_card_with_laptop.jpg | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So how do I get it working now? | |
| <siccness> try the redhat link | |
| <siccness> but i dunno :| | |
| *** stuart_ is now known as croppa | |
| <cafuego> oh yeah? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> /dev/hda is the hard drive, right? | |
| <cafuego> it's the primary master parallel ata drive | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It wouldn't be the PCMCIA CF Card Reader with a CF card in it, would it then? | |
| <cafuego> if it's the only ide channel/drive the mahcine has, yes it is | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Well then my PCMCIA CF Card Reader is not showing up in sudo fdisk -l | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm just looking at this giude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301298 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *guide | |
| <cafuego> check in /proc to see if it's claimed by a driver | |
| <cafuego> /proc/bus/ide or somesuch | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ide? This isn't ide. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I don't have a folder called "ide" in /proc/bus anyway | |
| <adhoc> CF in pcmcia is ide | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :%s/folder/file | |
| <adhoc> :%s/folder/file/g | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> /g? | |
| <cafuego> /proc/ide/* | |
| <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: /g = global (ie: all occurrences) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> oh.... sweet | |
| <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: You need the terminating / regardless | |
| <cafuego> :%s/foo/bar/ | |
| <cafuego> only does the first occurrence on a line afaik | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How does :%s/folder/file or :%s/folder/file/g help me? I have no idea what to do with that. | |
| <cafuego> :%s/fooo/bar/g does them all | |
| <cafuego> Davo_Dinkum: sed is the answer to everything | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sed? | |
| <cafuego> sed! | |
| <siccness> man sad | |
| <cafuego> stream editor | |
| <cafuego> like vi, but you can files into it :-) | |
| <siccness> s/sad/sed/ | |
| <cafuego> can cat files into it | |
| <cafuego> siccness: pfffrt | |
| <siccness> ;-) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How does that help me get this PCMCIA CF Card Reader working? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Back soon. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> leave | |
| <fildo> !katapult | |
| <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want. | |
| <fildo> nice app | |
| <hantu> ew | |
| <merlin-linux> ni hao hantu | |
| <hantu> ni hao quail! | |
| <hantu> :D | |
| <merlin-linux> how are you? | |
| <hantu> im good, good! how's you? | |
| <merlin-linux> does anyone know how to stop a cd coming up with the wrong label and being unreadable cause it got the wrong label | |
| <merlin-linux> i installed disk one of two and when the second disk is insterted the thing thinks it disk one | |
| <siccness> You sure you didn't write disk 1 twice? :P | |
| <merlin-linux> i had to unmount the first disk like this sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: no cause it a game | |
| <merlin-linux> and it the original disks | |
| <siccness> so when you insert the second disk, is it being automounted? | |
| <merlin-linux> no i have to manually mount it | |
| <merlin-linux> brb i restarting this fen thing and start the install again | |
| <siccness> tried mounting it to another location? | |
| <quail> sorry i just getting pissed off | |
| <siccness> Hehe, :) | |
| <quail> i might have to dump the cd's as iso to my hdd and mount them from there to the cdrom | |
| <siccness> quail: that's how real men do it. | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <quail> auto mount pisses me off to sometimes | |
| <quail> i think i will end up turning it off if i can | |
| <siccness> of course you can turn it off | |
| <hantu> /etc/fstab me thinks | |
| <new_to_ubuntu> hi hantu | |
| <hantu> hi new_to_ubuntu | |
| <new_to_ubuntu> Can I run KDE programmes on my GNOME desktop ? | |
| <noiesmo> new_to_ubuntu, yes | |
| <new_to_ubuntu> May I know how ? | |
| <siccness> new_to_ubuntu: when you go to install a kde application, it'll install kde libs and what not | |
| <hantu> i dont run kde/gnome, but i think if you install a kde apps, they'll require you to install some libs | |
| <hantu> oops, retardedly slow i am :( | |
| <new_to_ubuntu> Ok. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> also find the gtk+qt .... to late | |
| <hantu> hi K, sicc | |
| <merlin-linux> does anyone know how to umount something that does not want to unmount | |
| <merlin-linux> nvm i found the reason why it was not umounting | |
| <Hit3k> you were still in the directory werent you ;) | |
| <hantu> lawl | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: haha, i make that mistake too often | |
| <Hit3k> siccness, so do i | |
| <siccness> I sit there and abuse the screen, then I realise "ahh for f skae" | |
| <siccness> There should be a print/echo message saying "Hey idiot, how 'bout you get out of the directory" | |
| <owh> Greetings, anyone here been playing with time-zone files and have any suggestions on patching them for WA-daylight saving? | |
| <Hit3k> oh crap I forgot you westeners went to daylight savings | |
| <owh> Yup | |
| <owh> There's a bug logged, but there doesn't seem anyone allocated to the work :-( | |
| <siccness> owh: yeah, a piss poor effort really | |
| <Hit3k> you cant just put your clock ahead an hour? | |
| <owh> I can change my timezone to Tokyo, but no, I can't just change it forward, seeing that it synchronises with the 'net. | |
| <Hit3k> ah.. | |
| <owh> Bug #72125 | |
| <Hit3k> well seeing as how the WA DST is only in trial for the next 3 years.. it shouldnt really be done because if you dont end up doing it its gonna be a waste of time | |
| <Hit3k> you could just move to the east coast | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: wrong. | |
| <owh> Nope, the tzdata has begin and end dates and times, so you can patch them specifically. | |
| <owh> I even have the format for one of the files, but not all three. (Noting that two of them are identical) | |
| <Hit3k> ah well | |
| <Hit3k> I dont use ubuntu anymore | |
| <siccness> owh: these are the three lines for the debian package | |
| <siccness> RuleAW2006only-Dec 32:00s1:00- | |
| <siccness> RuleAW20072009-MarlastSun2:00s0- | |
| <siccness> RuleAW20072008-OctlastSun2:00s1:00- | |
| <owh> Seems WA has had daylight saving in 1917, 1942, 1974, 1983 and 1991. | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <siccness> it's just NT that has never seen it, iirc | |
| <Hit3k> Queensland doesnt do it cause it has something to do with the curtains | |
| <fildo> !openvpn | |
| <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 948 kB | |
| <fildo> !update | |
| <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | |
| <owh> siccness: Yeah, but the three files are binary, so no text file editing, and only two are the same, the third one is different. | |
| <owh> My wireless is playing up and reauthenticating every 10 seconds :-( | |
| <siccness> hmm | |
| <siccness> Sorry mate, I don't use ubuntu either - can't really help ya. | |
| <siccness> that and i have no idea how tzdata works :P | |
| <owh> Which files does the debian tzdata package have that contain Perth? | |
| <incon> yeah some other distro's are fixed :/ | |
| <owh> dpkg -L tzdata|grep Perth | |
| <siccness> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2006p.orig.tar.gz | |
| <siccness> It'll be under "Australiasnaianaa" | |
| <siccness> or whatever | |
| <owh> Yeah, but I don't want the original one, I need an updated one :-( | |
| <praetorian> we are under "Australia" | |
| <Hit3k> dont worry about the WA thing | |
| <Hit3k> Windows didnt do it either | |
| <praetorian> usuing /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Perth | |
| <Hit3k> I asked my friend who lives there | |
| <praetorian> gentoo did | |
| <praetorian> so ner | |
| <praetorian> :> | |
| <owh> praetorian: Yes, I know that, but the files are binary, so I cannot edit them. | |
| <owh> Hit3k: Your friend is mis-informed. There is a Windows patch, though it breaks other things :-) | |
| <owh> Hit3k: If you apply it, you may loose appointments, so the suggestion is to print out your appointments, then patch, then type them back in - seriously :-) | |
| <owh> Hit3k: That comes from Microsoft as I understand it :-) | |
| <praetorian> well you can.. | |
| <Hit3k> or you can tell microsoft to go shove it | |
| <praetorian> didnt ubuntu release a patch? | |
| <siccness> praetorian: no | |
| <owh> Not yet. | |
| <Hit3k> will they? probably not | |
| <praetorian> they will | |
| <owh> Well there is a critical bug logged, confirmed and documented, just doesn't appear to be allocated to anyone. | |
| <owh> The biggest problem is that it was logged on the 17th of November and nothing much happened. | |
| <praetorian> so fix it, you just need to repackage the 2006p in a .deb | |
| <praetorian> really | |
| <owh> Sigh, as I said, the tzdata files are binary, tell me how to edit those binary files, and I'll be there... | |
| <praetorian> man zic / man zdump | |
| <owh> All I have is zdump which parses the file from binary into human readable. | |
| <praetorian> you edit a text file and compile it | |
| <owh> Now we're talking, zic :-) | |
| <owh> Hmm, another bug, apropos timezone, doesn't show zic, because it uses 'time zone' and not 'timezone' in the man page - lovely. | |
| <owh> I could have fixed this hours ago :-( | |
| <owh> Thanks praetorian! | |
| <Hit3k> yah about 2.. or... 1am? | |
| <Hit3k> what was it like not having 2-3am | |
| <owh> Hit3k: Like having it twice next year - a non event :-) | |
| <siccness> probably the same feeling we have when we're asleep, no care existing ;) | |
| <Hit3k> hmm | |
| <Hit3k> good point | |
| <Hit3k> So school finishes on thursday thank god and im gonna have 6-8 weeks to work on an LFS system | |
| <Hit3k> how excitement | |
| <siccness> Cool | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why won't this stupid card work? It's just a CF card. | |
| <siccness> Is it going to work? or are you going to do what everyone else does and just stops half way through it and claims "nah too hard" :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LFS? | |
| <siccness> Linux From Scratch | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Rolling your own distro? | |
| <Hit3k> yeah something like that | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Nice. Make sure you base it on gNewSense. | |
| <siccness> I can see it being a good learning experience, but I dunno how often one would continue to maintain/update it | |
| <Hit3k> I'd somehow get portage or apt-get onto the system | |
| <siccness> i'd say "somehow" would be the best word, yes :) | |
| <siccness> Good luck with it though | |
| <Hit3k> ;) | |
| <Hit3k> hm | |
| <Hit3k> shower time | |
| <siccness> rejoining a domain in windows xp is stupid | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What the f*** is red wine vinegar?! What a f****** stupid idea. Let's f****** get f****** plonked at dinner. F****** bullsh!t. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> /end rant | |
| <siccness> !language | |
| <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Eh it was all censored. | |
| <siccness> Oh, so that makes it ok? :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Maybe. Who knows. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm just pissed because I can't get this card working. | |
| <siccness> Fair enough | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> if your going to swear, do it properly | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And get kicked from the channel! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> not by me | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> personnaly, trying to disguise swearing when people know what it is anyway seems totally pointless | |
| <siccness> I think there should be a rule where you're allowed to swear for certain situations, eg: not being able to rejoin a domain under windows | |
| <siccness> or anything related to windows | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> afk again. i still need some time to think | |
| <DarkMageZ> what about things related to linux? | |
| <siccness> DarkMageZ: Depends. If it's related to something like Nautilus, than yes. | |
| <DarkMageZ> aren't you discriminating then | |
| <siccness> Yes. | |
| <DarkMageZ> why can't we swear about anything linux related? | |
| <DarkMageZ> why does it have to be specific to thngs like nautilus? | |
| <siccness> Because I said. | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, disguising protects the little kiddies | |
| <siccness> Does anyone here have a good method of remember things? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, i doubt it | |
| * adhoc swears he didn't think that he'd get the bike back together today ... | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: which little kiddies? | |
| <siccness> adhoc: the non-existant ones | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: like siccness | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, the ones that purserj lets mess around with interviews | |
| <siccness> Hahahaha | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, yes, and sicc-boy | |
| <siccness> I'm a big kid? :) | |
| <adhoc> perhaps... | |
| <siccness> So no one has a good method of remembering stuff? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: What are you trying to remember? | |
| <siccness> Phases of Project Management Life Cycle | |
| <siccness> and descriptions of them | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh yesah I did that. | |
| <adhoc> siccness: garbage in, garbage out | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *yeah | |
| <siccness> adhoc: i hear ya ;) | |
| <adhoc> siccness: learn to regurgitate, you'll not actually ever use it | |
| <adhoc> siccness: remember, this is purely for the gratification of your teacher/lecturer/tutor/etc ... | |
| <siccness> yes but how to learn to regurgitate is really the question | |
| <adhoc> oh | |
| <siccness> maybe getting off irc would be step 1 | |
| <siccness> but let's face it, that aint gonna happen | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> WTF?!!!?!?! I just stuck my PCMCIA CF card reader in (with the CF card in it) and it mounted automatically! Yay! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's mounted as /media/scsidisk | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders why the docbook-defguide is so amazingly broken | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Make an acroynym out of the steps. | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: tried | |
| <siccness> but CSPO isn't easy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> CSPO? | |
| <siccness> Concept, Schedule, Progress and Outcome | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pronounce it "cesspo" | |
| <siccness> Not such a bad idea; however, I can see myself in the exam tomorrow trying to work out what "E" is | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's 4 letters. How hard is that? | |
| <s1mple_m4n> (*) | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: 1 harder than 3 letters. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 25% harder | |
| <siccness> Indeed. | |
| <siccness> Thanks for the top notch math work, Kamping_Kaiser :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin* | |
| <adhoc> siccness: cess pool | |
| <siccness> LO | |
| <siccness> *LOL | |
| <adhoc> 33% harder, actually | |
| <siccness> I think it might be time for sicc to revert back to the 1800s, pen and paper and repeat 30,000 times | |
| <adhoc> wicked, sounds like a plan | |
| <adhoc> except you'll be hitting the quill and parchment | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser hates docbook-defguide - absolutely invaluable doc, and missing pages all over the place. | |
| <siccness> time to spend 5hrs to find a pen :) | |
| <adhoc> or chalk and slate | |
| <adhoc> siccness: read it out loud, a few times | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Make a mind map and stick in a place you look at regularly, like next to your monitor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_map | |
| <adhoc> hi rob | |
| <rob> hi adhoc | |
| <elkbuntu> hi rob :) | |
| <rob> hello elkbuntu | |
| <rob> hmm fresh edgy install, the only thing I don't like is the xchat font.. | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: you figured what you're going to see at LCA07 ? | |
| <elkbuntu> i always change the xchat font | |
| <rob> yeah I have been but can't find a good one | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, only as far as the miniconfs | |
| <adhoc> its funny how the font is the first thing that most folks change, esp terminals ... | |
| <hysterio> how many ubuntu-au folk are going to lca07? | |
| <elkbuntu> hysterio, not sure yet | |
| <Hit3k> Man | |
| <Hit3k> theres absolutely nothing on TV tonight | |
| * Hit3k watch indiana jones | |
| <hysterio> it would be good to have some kinda ubuntu-au get together | |
| <Hit3k> what does this look like? | |
| <siccness> Sure would hysterio, so how do you want to pay for my accommodation and LCA pass? cheque or cash? | |
| <adhoc> hysterio: Kamping_Kaiser, lucychili and myself will be there... | |
| <elkbuntu> hysterio, we'll probably be having a booth at some point, when i figure what to ask for | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: get a couple of ubuntu posters up | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, do any of your lot have an ubuntu booth banner at all? | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: get a presence up as background noise ;) | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: booth banner? um .. no | |
| <elkbuntu> posters are a given... | |
| <Hit3k> hm | |
| * elkbuntu might have to go invest in some pvc sheeting | |
| <Hit3k> Canonical might have on from Linux World they can lend you ;) | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: talk to lucychili about that kinda thing ;) | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, im hoping so | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, but at this point i dont know | |
| <Hit3k> I cant go cause im to young and have no money. | |
| <elkbuntu> no such thing as too young | |
| <Hit3k> there is in casinos and pubs :p | |
| <Hit3k> and strip clubs | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: you could go for ubuntu napkins at all the food outlets | |
| <elkbuntu> LCA isnt a pub | |
| <Hit3k> and normal clubs | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, lol | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: there are ? | |
| <siccness> strip club == casino, you blow money on nothing. | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, can we stick to stuff that doesnt involve a tonne of outlay? | |
| <Hit3k> <elkbuntu> no such thing as too young | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: sure ... | |
| <Hit3k> elkbuntu, stick Ubuntu CDs in the Lavington (err not sure about the spelling) Mcdonalds | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: there are days when i even have realistic ideas | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: yes, she was referrring to "no such thing as too young for LCA" | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, if we outlay for printing/etc it'd be for something uber cool, like ubuntu badges | |
| <Hit3k> fine then | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, ha.. hahaha... | |
| <Hit3k> i have no money | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: yeah, but saturate a space ... | |
| <Hit3k> I always stop there on my way to wagga or sydney | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: where are you anyways? | |
| <Hit3k> melburn | |
| <siccness> Too close to me :| | |
| <adhoc> ah ok | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, you dont leave potential missiles laying around in lavington, trust me on that one | |
| <Hit3k> correction siccness you're to close to me | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: you could catcha lift with siccness in his hotrod ;) | |
| <siccness> adhoc: only when someone sends me some money to pay for it :P | |
| <siccness> and Hit3k cannot handle the raw power of the commodore | |
| <Hit3k> :o not true. | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: siccness is going to get a job at dominos or pizza hut or something ... | |
| <elkbuntu> if i were to leave cds in the Lavi maccas, there'd be reports of cds being thrown at vehicles on the highway | |
| <siccness> BAHAHAHAHA | |
| <siccness> <--be dead before I get a job at Dominoes/Pizza Hut | |
| <Hit3k> dominos? | |
| <Hit3k> SICKO | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: that way siccness can pay for himself ;) | |
| <siccness> Trust me, I'd rather miss LCA then get a job at dominoes | |
| <adhoc> siccness: or subway ... or ... nandos | |
| <siccness> Again, I hate them all. | |
| <adhoc> siccness: you don't have to eat there, | |
| <siccness> Yes, but if I have to work there, than I have to deal with customers. | |
| <adhoc> siccness: just serve the slobs their grease on a plate ;) | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <adhoc> siccness: you don | |
| <adhoc> siccness: you don't need any social skill to work there, | |
| <siccness> I have social skills | |
| <adhoc> so you'll fit right in =P | |
| <siccness> Great social skills, in fact. | |
| <siccness> I just don't like to use them. | |
| <adhoc> oh yeah ... | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, you only need the social skills of a 15yrold dork | |
| <siccness> Plus, there's something that really bothers me about Nando's T-Shirts, "No Fat Chicks" and "I make the Chicks hot!" | |
| <elkbuntu> they seriously have that on their tshirts? | |
| <siccness> Yes | |
| <elkbuntu> that's effed up | |
| <siccness> Which is just another reason why the company deserves to rot into the ground | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: yes, and "chicks rule" | |
| <siccness> Sure, it's a play on words. But it's pathetic, and that be considered insulting. | |
| <elkbuntu> i'm one of these--> "No Fat Chicks" | |
| <siccness> s/that/can/ | |
| <siccness> that and their food is shithouse | |
| * adhoc hugs elkbuntu | |
| <siccness> oh and overpriced | |
| <siccness> not to mention their LIFO approach | |
| <adhoc> siccness: yes, that they are | |
| <adhoc> diversity is a wonderful thing ;) | |
| <elkbuntu> LIFO? Like it or...? | |
| <adhoc> so this is good that one can wander on over to the vege cafe and spend almost as much as you would at nandos for a meal =) | |
| <siccness> LIFO = Last In First Out | |
| <siccness> FIFO = First In First Out | |
| <siccness> FILO = First In Last Out | |
| <elkbuntu> ok. them's new to me | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <Hit3k> i hope you mean when buying the stuff | |
| <siccness> big sicc taught elkbuntu something | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: yes | |
| <Tatey> evening fella's | |
| <siccness> Heya Tatey | |
| <Tatey> what's happening? | |
| <siccness> Well I'm just doing my usual 9pm bitch, you? | |
| * adhoc soothes siccness's wild mood swings ... | |
| <siccness> Haha | |
| * adhoc sings ... | |
| * siccness sings phil collins - easy lover | |
| <fildo> nice thats siccness . didnt know that | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <fildo> n on that note im heading to bed | |
| <fildo> seeya peeps, work @ 5am | |
| <fildo> yay | |
| <siccness> Catchya mate, take care. | |
| <adhoc> night fildo | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Night. | |
| * adhoc has a dog asleep on his foot | |
| <adhoc> warm | |
| <adhoc> fuzzy | |
| <siccness> annoying? | |
| <adhoc> siccness: no. | |
| <adhoc> she trys to be annoying in order to get dinner, | |
| <adhoc> but its noice | |
| <siccness> yeah my cats are like telecommunication survey callers, annoying at certain times. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hey something just occured to me. How will I switch to the 10th channel in irssi? | |
| <Tatey> q | |
| <adhoc> Ctrl-N | |
| <adhoc> Ctrl-P | |
| <Tatey> wait, 10th channel is 0 | |
| <Tatey> then 11th is q | |
| <Tatey> 12 is w | |
| <Tatey> etc etc | |
| <purana> adhoc our dog will annoy you until you feed her | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So I press Alt+q for the 11th channel? | |
| <siccness> Actually, you can press alt+1+0 (do it quickly) to get to the 10th channel | |
| <adhoc> she moved, the level of oxygen under my desk fell rapidly.... we have lentil soupd for lunch | |
| <Tatey> I run a nice little script that displays channel names | |
| <Hit3k> link? | |
| <elkbuntu> Tatey, .. you have channel names in irssi? | |
| <adhoc> anyhow, elkbuntu what other ideas did you have? | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, bimberi and i both think we need to have 'sample bags' | |
| <elkbuntu> cd, stickers, info sheets | |
| <elkbuntu> and the badges if we make em | |
| <adhoc> what kinda badges? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I check what filesystem my CF card is formatted as? | |
| <adhoc> fdisk? | |
| <adhoc> normall they are formated vfat | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, sorta like http://www.badgeaminit.com/ ones | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Would /dev/sda1 be the CF card? | |
| <siccness> sd = scsi/sata | |
| <adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: sounds plausable | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, if you have access to a badge press, components, and the time to make some badges, please let me know | |
| <siccness> and someone said before that pcmcia was also that? | |
| <Tatey> siccness: in 2.6.19, HDD and optical drives regardless if they're SATA or PATA use SDX now | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: way cool =D | |
| <siccness> ahh shit | |
| <siccness> That's why it wouldnt boot | |
| <Tatey> there is a new PATA subsystem | |
| <siccness> Thanks for that Tatey | |
| <Tatey> siccness: wasn't there a notice for you? | |
| <siccness> I spent about 2hrs compiling kernels | |
| <siccness> nope :| | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, im going to guess lucychili may have a clue about that stuff :) | |
| <lucychili> whats up elkbuntu? | |
| <siccness> Tatey: i was too excited by "k8temp" to even pay attention :P | |
| <Tatey> nub :P | |
| <siccness> Heheh | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: i little blossum just told me that you can get the locally for around 250$ | |
| <adhoc> s/the/them/ | |
| <elkbuntu> lucychili, do you have access to a badge press you can loan? | |
| * adhoc pokes lucychili | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, schools etc sometimes have them afaik. none here have any more :( | |
| <lucychili> i dont | |
| <lucychili> they charge for them | |
| <lucychili> they are around 250$ last time i priced | |
| <lucychili> we could do the grants la thing | |
| <siccness> Tatey: show me your entry in menu/grub file | |
| <adhoc> what do the badges cost? | |
| <lucychili> and buy one for general la use | |
| <lucychili> the badges also cost | |
| <Tatey> siccness: I use LVM2, it would be of no use to you | |
| <siccness> bah shi | |
| <lucychili> for the backs and the acetate circles | |
| <elkbuntu> yeah, i know | |
| <Tatey> siccness: you need to update your /etc/fstab entries too | |
| <lucychili> think around $1 per but not sure on that | |
| * adhoc googles | |
| <lucychili> elkbuntu have a chat to mr purser about whether la would like to get one for all round linux promotion | |
| <siccness> Tatey: hang on though, my boot drive is sda | |
| <Tatey> siccness: if your drive was previously hda, it'll be sda | |
| <lucychili> people would have to get the consumable stuff for their own event | |
| <siccness> bah damn it | |
| <siccness> this is stupid | |
| <elkbuntu> lucychili, it was just a thought. it might be too close to get it possible for this LCA | |
| <lucychili> but its worth a try for the gadget | |
| <Tatey> if you already had a sata drive, the pata drive will take preference to the sata drive | |
| <elkbuntu> definately | |
| <siccness> Tatey: so if my sata drive is sda (in .18), what would it be for .19? | |
| <Tatey> thefore if you had a pata drive that's hda and a sata drive that's sda, your pata drive becomes sda and your sata drive becomes sdb | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Does SATA work well under Ubuntu? | |
| <Tatey> Davo_Dinkum: very well | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> With MythTV? | |
| <Tatey> what does MythTV have to do with SATA HDD's? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Gotta store all those movies and music somewhere. | |
| * siccness shakes his head | |
| <Tatey> yes, well, you can use MythTV and a SATA HDD very easily | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I was reading somewhere that SATA wasn't well supported under Ubuntu. | |
| <Tatey> that's strange... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Or that might've been SATA RAID setups (when booting from them). | |
| <Tatey> I am running 4x 320GB HDD's with SATA in RAID5 with Ubuntu + MythTV | |
| <Tatey> you may be referring to the native onboard RAID, which, isn't true RAID to begin with ;) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> RAID is better from PCI SATA cards? | |
| <hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: Depends on which ones | |
| <Tatey> it depends on your application. It's generally accepted that true hardware RAID SATA cards are superior to software RAID | |
| <popey> that's debateable | |
| <hysterio> i agree with popey | |
| <popey> you can pick up a software raid set of physical disks and put in another machine with a different controller | |
| <Tatey> the onboard RAID included with most motherboards is "fake-raid" in which it appears to be hardware RAID in configuration, except it requires an appropriate driver with the OS | |
| <popey> you generally can't do that with hardware raid | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: ok, start here; | |
| <adhoc> http://www.custombadges.com.au/pricelist.html | |
| <adhoc> http://www.barebadges.com/content/prices.htm | |
| <Tatey> I said "generally accepted" in terms of performance | |
| <Tatey> I personally use software RAID, and prefer it in preference to hardware RAID. I also have a hardware raid controller | |
| <popey> heh, no you didn't you said "generally accepted" - which is wrong :) | |
| <hysterio> Tatey: unless you are hammering the cpu(s) of the machines, I doubt you will notice much of a difference | |
| <popey> hysterio: depends on the CPU | |
| <adhoc> http://www.abilitybadges.com.au/index3.htm | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Looks like I fired up the topic. | |
| <Tatey> popey: I did say generally accepted, scroll up | |
| <popey> you did | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, thankyou! who'd be interested in putting in for badges? | |
| <popey> but you didn't say performace | |
| <Tatey> sorry, that's what I implied. I should have been more specific | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> </pedant> | |
| <siccness> Tatey: did you get my PM? | |
| <hysterio> i have an areca 8 port pci-e raid controller, and im using software raid5 | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: wow check this one out; | |
| <adhoc> http://www.schoolsupply.com.au/category2_1.htm | |
| <popey> I have a server here on hardware raid on an old compaq proliant and I am eager to move it off to software raid | |
| <popey> one disk has already gone pop and has been replaced | |
| <Tatey> I love mdadm, it's such a great software RAID utility | |
| <hysterio> admittedly it is running on a dual xeon 3ghz - and the speed difference between software and hardware raid wasnt huge - i prefer being able to move my disks to another machine and have the hope of getting info off them than 5% performance boost | |
| <siccness> bah i better grab a bourbon before i get annoyed :P | |
| <hysterio> Tatey: mdadm is awesome | |
| <Tatey> I concur :) | |
| <adhoc> mdadm is ok, hardware raid is better | |
| <hysterio> adhoc: i'd agree with you in certain applications | |
| * adhoc needs to play with the multipath stuff again | |
| <adhoc> hysterio: cheapness is not one of them ... | |
| <hysterio> no im not talking cheapness ;) | |
| <hysterio> adhoc: ive been burned by some dodgy "proper" raid controllers in the past. I only use hardware raid now if I really need to (eg on a server with highish cpu utilization) | |
| <adhoc> hysterio: my server here gets hammered... | |
| <adhoc> it'd never keep up with RAID5 in software | |
| <adhoc> its only got 1GB of RAM, so the disk FS cache doesn't help much, but the controller cache does ;) | |
| <Tatey> I'm running 4x 320GB's in RAID5 on a dual core Athlon 64 3600+ | |
| <Tatey> admittedly, this isn't a high traffic file server | |
| <Tatey> it's mostly for personal use | |
| <adhoc> Tatey: =) i got 6x250GB PATA | |
| <hysterio> Tatey: one of my boxes here runs 8x300gb drives off an Areca controller - running software raid5 | |
| <siccness> Oh big men talkin about how big their hard drives are | |
| <adhoc> it can sustain 35MB/s writes ;) | |
| <hysterio> :) | |
| <hysterio> comparing ePen*s | |
| <siccness> Penis? :P | |
| * hysterio respectfully declines the offer | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <adhoc> :------------- | |
| <adhoc> that came out all wrong | |
| <adhoc> ;) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <pschulz01> Evening adhoc :-) | |
| <Hit3k> theres no respect in two men talking about penises casually | |
| <elkbuntu> in a public, family-friendly channel | |
| <adhoc> hi pschulz01 | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: when your old enough, you should visit a pub ... | |
| <adhoc> things change... | |
| <Hit3k> Oh. I've been to ettamogah (again spelling) but i was like 2 years old | |
| <adhoc> that hardly counts | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: all in good time... | |
| <elkbuntu> that's hardly a pub | |
| <Hit3k> would a 500Gb external hdd from the apple store be worth just using on linux? :P | |
| <Hit3k> elkbuntu, I agree... | |
| * siccness smacks Hit3k | |
| <adhoc> elkbuntu: everytime i've been past it, it looked more like a tourist trap | |
| <adhoc> er .. tourist attraction | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, well yes. that's basically what it is. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What is? The apple store? | |
| <Hit3k> no the ettamogah pub | |
| <Hit3k> Is that even the right spelling? am i making a complete ass of myself everytime i type that? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah. | |
| <elkbuntu> it's correct, yes | |
| <Hit3k> the apple store in new york is a tourist trap | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: the latter :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The cube thingy? | |
| <Hit3k> yeah | |
| <Hit3k> I want to buy my ipod there | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: Should I change the name of my application? | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: um .. what application? | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: 'applestore' | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: My distributed object (content) store | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: sorry, i have no idea what we are all on about... | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: hehe.. | |
| <adhoc> hi klepas | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: I don't know how the topic came up just now, by that was what I had decided to call my current project. | |
| <siccness> applestore hey | |
| <siccness> intriguing | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: did yo usee in the paper about how they adelaide council wants to make rundle mall like the "Times square" thing? | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: hmmm | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: Yes.. I saw that.. it was next to the Ai2 token, | |
| <siccness> This version of gaim is rooted. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> rootkitted? | |
| * adhoc hands siccness a Roo | |
| <klepas> rarr | |
| <klepas> hey adhoc | |
| <klepas> :) | |
| <adhoc> siccness: or does it root packets? | |
| <siccness> it roots me | |
| <adhoc> from one interface to another | |
| <siccness> telling me it cant send a message | |
| <siccness> despite the fact the receiver got the message | |
| * adhoc notes the recipricating action ... | |
| <siccness> and "cannot send messages while invisible"..uhh but im not invisible | |
| <siccness> :| | |
| <adhoc> siccness: no, we can see your output here just fine | |
| <siccness> yea this is irssi | |
| <siccness> not gaim :P | |
| <adhoc> huh! | |
| <siccness> Either I have lost the plot, or you have adhoc :P | |
| <siccness> Tough call :) | |
| * adhoc stagers AFK | |
| <adhoc> dog f*rt | |
| <siccness> heheh | |
| <adhoc> ahh ... pesky dogs out side scarfing foods | |
| * adhoc contemplates installing brakes on the bike | |
| <siccness> adhoc: nah yo udont need em | |
| <siccness> use your feet | |
| <adhoc> siccness: it is a fixie, so i just backpedal ... sort of | |
| <adhoc> resist the pedals | |
| * adhoc considers food | |
| * adhoc considers a shower | |
| * siccness considers study | |
| <flaccid> yay my ubuntu server is running all services | |
| <flaccid> on er dialup | |
| <siccness> why do i always leave it a tthe last minute | |
| <adhoc> =) | |
| <adhoc> siccness: because you can, and there is little perceived risk | |
| <adhoc> what are you leaving to the last minute? | |
| <adhoc> studying? | |
| <siccness> Yeah, Project Management shit | |
| <siccness> im expected to remember shit like this: optimistic time + 4x most likely time + pessemistic time / 6 | |
| <adhoc> ah, truely joyous contenct ;) | |
| <siccness> when in reality, i couldnt care less. | |
| <adhoc> is it core to the important stuff in your course? | |
| <siccness> no, it's entirely irrelevant | |
| <siccness> but apparently employers look for people with management skills | |
| <adhoc> jsut pass it and get on with the important stuff | |
| <siccness> it's a massive course next year | |
| <siccness> this is my final exam tomorrow | |
| <adhoc> siccness: thats cause managers have no management skills | |
| <siccness> but what's interesting is | |
| <siccness> everything that we've learnt so far | |
| <adhoc> and rely on they works to save their arses | |
| <siccness> is just logical, and you'd do it anyway | |
| <adhoc> s/works/workers/ | |
| <siccness> but because the test will be based on "regurgitating" answers from sheets, ill fail | |
| <adhoc> siccness: you'll remember the stuff | |
| <adhoc> just print it out, walk around the house and read it out loud | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What timezone is Melbourne in? I'm just setting up my PDA. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> GMT? | |
| <adhoc> GMT is greenwich mean time | |
| <adhoc> in the UK | |
| <hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: GMT +10 | |
| <adhoc> melbourne is GMT -10 | |
| <adhoc> +10 is alaska? | |
| <hysterio> we are ahead of GMT | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> All it says is GMT. | |
| <adhoc> adelaide is GMT -9:30 | |
| <siccness> people people people | |
| <hysterio> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=152 | |
| <adhoc> oh | |
| <adhoc> +9:30 then | |
| <hysterio> :) | |
| * adhoc can never remember | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <adhoc> thats why i have a peecee | |
| <siccness> we're not minus gmt | |
| <siccness> haha | |
| <hysterio> i wish it was gmt -10 - i would still have some w/end left :) | |
| <Fujitsu> We are! We're just -14 plus a day! | |
| <siccness> Fujitsu: Heh, you again with your randomness. | |
| * Fujitsu goes to bed. | |
| <siccness> How are ya mate? | |
| <siccness> fair enough, night! | |
| * hysterio likes Fujitsu's logic | |
| <Fujitsu> siccness: Of course, that's me. | |
| * Fujitsu isn't too bad! | |
| <Fujitsu> Tired, though. | |
| <siccness> good to hear | |
| <Fujitsu> Goooonight, all. | |
| <siccness> night mate | |
| <Fujitsu> +d | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Night. | |
| * adhoc hands Fujitsu a +4 wand of logic | |
| <achjo> hello everyone | |
| * Fujitsu uses it on adhoc. | |
| <achjo> can someone please help me, i would like to install yahoo messenger, is it possible on ubuntu ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Just use Gaim. | |
| <achjo> i already use that but my friend would like to test his webcam and i can't figure out how to on gaim =p | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> webcam.... bhahahahaha | |
| <siccness> adhoc: heh, you werer right. a lot of this is just coin to me rather quickly | |
| <adhoc> maybe with ekiga? | |
| <siccness> achjo: no support | |
| <siccness> you need to use amsn for webcam support (on msn) | |
| <adhoc> yahoo is a closed, dead format, use jabber instead =) | |
| <siccness> gaim does not support it | |
| <achjo> so you don't think there is a point in installing yahoo, just to test it ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Not really. | |
| <adhoc> achjo: try ekiga | |
| <adhoc> that works | |
| <achjo> does it work with yahoo ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yay! Familiar on my handheld! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm off! See ya! | |
| <adhoc> night all | |
| <hysterio> night adhoc | |
| <merlin-linux> well i have tried my hardest to get a game to run under wine | |
| <hysterio> what game? | |
| <merlin-linux> sacred | |
| * elkbuntu only just now, after 3 days, notices popey | |
| <elkbuntu> well, 2 days actually | |
| <elkbuntu> no, 3... | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 | |
| <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, i know who he is, and that's all that matters | |
| <hantu> O_o | |
| * popey waves to elkbuntu | |
| * elkbuntu waves back at popey | |
| <elkbuntu> are you stalking me mister? :) | |
| <popey> Yes | |
| <popey> I am | |
| <popey> Mwahahahahahaaaaaaaa | |
| <popey> etc | |
| <elkbuntu> oh dear, i may have to hide now | |
| <siccness> I might have the biggest beer of all time after my exam is finished | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 | |
| <popey> don't worry, being 24 hours by plane away keeps you /relatively/ safe | |
| <siccness> I'm thinking a 10litre beer on tap next to my mouth | |
| <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, be nice to the brit, i may be able to extract valuable jono blackmailing material from him. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, aw ... i was going to have fun :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ;) | |
| <popey> Well, you *could* but you need to wait until Ubuntu-UK loco is approved and I get Ubuntu membership | |
| <popey> then I'll happily dish the dirt | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> popey, you coming to LCA? | |
| <popey> LCA? Wossat? | |
| <hantu> linux conference australia | |
| <hantu> you goin, K? | |
| <elkbuntu> Linux.conf.au | |
| <popey> Unlikely | |
| <elkbuntu> popey, hitch a ride in jono or scott's luggage! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, course | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <hantu> ah, i might have to bring my shotgun then. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll be broke when i get home, but if im hopeful it will be worth it | |
| <popey> now, if there was someone to stalk, Scott would be the one | |
| <hantu> i'm still deciding :\ | |
| <praetorian> cool | |
| <praetorian> thanks | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, your running outta time arnt you? :o | |
| <hantu> i have to move, around 20-ish january | |
| <hantu> i know :( | |
| <elkbuntu> aww, scott's harmless | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/LinuxWorldExpo2006/DSC02544 Scott using *my* laptop | |
| <popey> *swooon* | |
| <praetorian> oh ... another scott? damn | |
| <popey> Scott James Remnant | |
| <popey> sorry | |
| <elkbuntu> ok, quit the fanboiing | |
| <praetorian> im cooler, promise | |
| <popey> *The* Scott James Remnant | |
| <elkbuntu> yupyup | |
| <elkbuntu> met him at UDS :) | |
| <popey> he is genuine nice guy | |
| <elkbuntu> very much so | |
| <hantu> i'll have to decide by the end of this week, K :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> SJR used to have really cool commit messages | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> tehy suddenly stopped in dapper devel :( | |
| <elkbuntu> so anyway mr popey, what brings you here? | |
| <elkbuntu> you're not one of them compulsive channel joiners, are you? | |
| <elkbuntu> In #ubuntu-classroom | |
| <elkbuntu> Dec 01 02:18:08 <elkbuntu> For example, the Australian team is "Ubuntu-au". "au" is the ISO code for Australia. | |
| <elkbuntu> In #ubuntu-au | |
| <elkbuntu> Dec 01 02:18:23 * popey (n=alan@bishop.popey.com) has joined #ubuntu-au | |
| <elkbuntu> Dec 01 02:18:32 <popey> Greetings from ubuntu-uk! | |
| <popey> haha | |
| <popey> I have been trying to cut down on the channel joining malarkey | |
| <popey> now down to 47 | |
| <elkbuntu> heheh | |
| <elkbuntu> i cut down channels then find new ones | |
| <popey> that's the problem | |
| <popey> ah, so the reason I am here.. | |
| <elkbuntu> down to 19 on freenode now | |
| <popey> ..I am in ubuntu-uk of course, and we see Ubuntu-AU as one of the other fairly busy, well organised LoCo teams | |
| <elkbuntu> yuppers | |
| <popey> so thought I'd idle in here and steal your stuff | |
| <popey> so to speak | |
| <elkbuntu> hmm... sounds fair... | |
| <popey> We are going for approval, and I have personally put myself up for membership | |
| <popey> just waiting for the community council to do their thang | |
| * elkbuntu waits for popey to notice. | |
| * popey wonders what he should notice | |
| * praetorian notices | |
| <praetorian> nice rack! | |
| <praetorian> is that a p4? | |
| * popey notices | |
| <praetorian> :> | |
| <elkbuntu> lol | |
| <siccness> big sicc yawns | |
| <elkbuntu> anyway peoples, im off to the land of nod. g'nite | |
| <praetorian> thats right next to my place! | |
| <hantu> night elk | |
| <hantu> er | |
| <MotherLUG> Morning All | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya MotherLUG | |
| <MotherLUG> hey merlin-linux | |
| <merlin-linux> can't you sleep too | |
| <hantu> uh | |
| <hantu> i need to sleep too =\ | |
| <hantu> got to pick up a friend at the airport. | |
| <MotherLUG> merlin-linux, no. I need to sleep, but it's been a busy day and winding down is taking a while | |
| * hantu plans his osdc. | |
| <merlin-linux> MotherLUG: oh, i have had a bit of a bad weekend, as i have quit smoking and gone cold turkey | |
| <MotherLUG> merlin-linux, I wish you luck | |
| <merlin-linux> i getting there slowly just have to get over the fight of the cravings | |
| <merlin-linux> in couple weeks i should be fine | |
| <MotherLUG> everytime you have a craving have a big glass of water | |
| <MotherLUG> it works well | |
| <merlin-linux> i on my 3rd packet of barley sugar lollies | |
| <MotherLUG> lol | |
| <MotherLUG> hey look, I quit smoking and all my teeth rotted | |
| <merlin-linux> and i going to learn how to code aswell, to keep the finger active | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <MotherLUG> good thinking | |
| <MotherLUG> mostly it is about breaking the habits | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah | |
| <merlin-linux> for me it ~14 year habbit | |
| <MotherLUG> what? | |
| <merlin-linux> smoking | |
| <MotherLUG> well I guess you are odler than what I thought | |
| <MotherLUG> older | |
| <merlin-linux> i am 29 | |
| <MotherLUG> I'm glad of that | |
| <MotherLUG> what age I had you at would mean you started wmoking at 5 | |
| <MotherLUG> Mmmm scary when I think back | |
| <MotherLUG> it's a 22 year habit for me | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: yeah funny that | |
| <siccness> I've been smoking for 5 or so years and mine are all rotted | |
| <siccness> (lost one front tooth, about to lose another) | |
| <siccness> 4 root canals | |
| <merlin-linux> MotherLUG: damn that a young age for anyone to start smoking | |
| <siccness> about 50 fillings | |
| <siccness> 2 chipped teeth | |
| <MotherLUG> jeeez siccness , what have you been doing | |
| <siccness> when your parents tell you to brush your teeth | |
| <siccness> just fuckin do it | |
| <siccness> it's that simple :| | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: that sounds like you not brush your teeth | |
| <MotherLUG> lol | |
| <siccness> But i've learnt from it | |
| <siccness> so I don't care. | |
| <siccness> plus, being able to scare the shit out of people by taking the false tooth out | |
| <siccness> man you get some great reactions from that | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: buy a set of dentchers and be done with it | |
| <MotherLUG> you know what one of the coolest things I have had to do is | |
| <MotherLUG> remove and insert a residents glass eye every shift | |
| <siccness> (oh and for those who ever have to have a tooth extraction, dont be scared, painless) :) | |
| <siccness> glass eye? eeeewwwk | |
| <MotherLUG> no siccness , it is really interesting | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <siccness> Does it hurt them? | |
| <MotherLUG> not if you do it correctly | |
| <MotherLUG> and the eye socket toughens up after a while | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: you just use a vacum cleaner | |
| <siccness> eww ;P | |
| <merlin-linux> j/k | |
| <siccness> i think the worst thing I'd hate to see is a tumar | |
| <MotherLUG> merlin-linux, we are talking removing a glass eye, not a BJ | |
| <siccness> or some form of cancer | |
| <merlin-linux> friend of mine at school had a glass eye | |
| <merlin-linux> and he used to take his glass eye out and put it on the desk | |
| <siccness> WTF | |
| <siccness> Can't they leave it in? | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, cancer is not a bad sight. But let me tell you gangrene is and it's a smell you will never in your life forget | |
| <merlin-linux> test time was the funniest, he'd put his eye near your test paper and pretend he was cheating | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: is it true that smoking can cause it? | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, no. just like false teeth they need to be removed at night | |
| <siccness> wah? | |
| <siccness> oh the eyeball thing | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, ?cause gangrene? | |
| <siccness> yeah | |
| <MotherLUG> yep | |
| <siccness> like are gangrene infected people mostly smokres? | |
| <MotherLUG> smoking incresases the pressure in your ateries and reduces the venous blood flow. If the body part doesn't get enough fresh oxygenated blood it dies | |
| <MotherLUG> not only smokers | |
| <MotherLUG> diabetics | |
| <MotherLUG> people that suffer heart disease | |
| <MotherLUG> anyone with reduced circulation is at risk | |
| <siccness> ok well what do you do about reflux? | |
| <MotherLUG> get off the grog | |
| <siccness> i cant walk more than 100m without a bottle of water | |
| <MotherLUG> get off the fatty and sugary food | |
| <MotherLUG> give up smoking | |
| <siccness> and ive had it since birth | |
| <MotherLUG> kidding? | |
| <siccness> nope | |
| <MotherLUG> then shoot your fucking GP | |
| <siccness> well i had a hernia op when i was a young one | |
| <siccness> that stopped a bit of it | |
| <siccness> (well a lot of it) | |
| <siccness> but i still have it | |
| <MotherLUG> what sort of hernia was it. Umbilical? | |
| <siccness> no idea | |
| <siccness> it was when i was about 2months old | |
| <siccness> anyways, good chattin with you MotherLUG. G'night! | |
| <MotherLUG> sorry looking up a word | |
| <MotherLUG> same here siccness , Night | |
| <merlin-linux> night to you both | |
| <MotherLUG> merlin-linux, are you off too | |
| <MotherLUG> Night | |
| <merlin-linux> no i thought you and and siccness was | |
| <MotherLUG> well, I am now | |
| <Rothbuntu> anyone in adelaide want a job in a call center for $15 an hour doing xp support | |
| <Rothbuntu> please .... anyone...... HELP ME | |
| * Rothbuntu sobs in the corner | |
| <bokey> anyone know Rothbuntu personally ? | |
| <bokey> i need this xp job. | |
| <bokey> xp support job. | |
| <bokey> contact me if anyone know about Rothbuntu. thanks. | |
| * bokey is away: ooops! away for now. | |
| <onefang> Away I say, away with ye. | |
| <adhoc> lucychili: ping | |
| <lucychili> prank | |
| <adhoc> pah! | |
| <siccness> morning all | |
| <hysterio> morning | |
| <MotherLUG> Morning | |
| <adhoc> hey MotherLUG | |
| <adhoc> ho hysterio | |
| * adhoc pokes siccness | |
| *** _greenie_ is now known as _greenie | |
| <siccness> hey adhoc | |
| <siccness> I think I might head off to TAFE in a couple of minutes. Complete this group assignment and do a bit of revision. | |
| <hantu> ahoy siccness :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> aahhhhwhwhoooo. i just walked hundredds of metres! | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser curses cars |