<adhoc> anyhow, the moral of our little "story" is not to bother sysadmins for you are crunchy and good with red sauce
<flaccid> ok
<lucychili> loon
* adhoc should write that "story" up properly one day
<purserj> yes and submit it to BoFH
<adhoc> perhaps draw up some of the "fictional" characters
<adhoc> purserj: pfffft, this story was first told before bofh became popular
<adhoc> this story was inspired by other stories from the "Chunky
<adhoc> "Chunky Custard Workshop Files"
<adhoc> which was a similarly tall collection of tales of folks in I.T.
<purserj> and in the mean time, I actually seem to have gotten x2x to work
<adhoc> cool =)
<adhoc> i use it from my work desktop to control xinput on my latop
<purserj> Well I'm basically using my laptop as a remote control for my server when I use it as a media machine
<purserj> now to get mythtv setup properly
<adhoc> cunning plan =)
<fildo> morning all
<adhoc> mornen fildo
<purserj> keeps the kids entertained
<fildo> morning adhoc
<fildo> how is ya mate
<adhoc> fildo: it is a very loverly sunday mornen with good coffee, good food, fine company and sunshine
<adhoc> painted bike parts are drying on the clothes line
<adhoc> all is right with the world...
<fildo> lol
<fildo> u living in heaven
<adhoc> almost
<fildo> cause sydney certainly aint like that today
<adhoc> its a little windy, sunny and about 26°
<fildo> Current weather for Sydney Airport : Retrieving weather data..., Temperature: , Pressure: , Wind:
<fildo> lol
<fildo> Current weather for Sydney Airport : Scattered clouds at 1097 meters, Temperature: 17°C, Pressure: 1018 hPa, Wind: 35 km/h S
<fildo> that could be better
<fildo> im bloody cold
<adhoc> thats a tad on the cool side
<adhoc> but diversity is why you learn to appreciate the perfect day ;)
<adhoc> its been too hot, too windy, too cold, all in the last week!
<adhoc> ok, gotta shoot more paint on the bike, BRB
<siccness> Did there end up being an update for W.A Daylight Savings?
<adhoc> siccness: purserj didn't seem to think so
<siccness> :|
<incon> other distro's have fixed this daylight saving problem why not ubuntu ?
<incon> do we have to make the mod to the system ourselfs
<siccness> I guess so.
<Tatey> fella's
<siccness> Tatey
<Tatey> [tate@fillets ~]$ uname -sr
<Tatey> Linux 2.6.19-ARCH
<Tatey> ^_^
<purserj> no update as far as I can see
<purserj> got a flash update thought :/
<siccness> Tatey: Heheh
<siccness> Tatey: I'm gonna hold off another day before I recompile
<Tatey> as if recompile :P
* siccness smacz teh tateyz
<Tatey> that's not very nice :(
<siccness> Heheh
<siccness> URL: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.19.tar.bz2
<siccness> Your request has been stored and will be checked manually before being mirrored. You will be contacted via email when the local version is available.
<siccness> :)
<merlin-linux> hiya all
<Tatey> hi :)
<merlin-linux> how are hings Tatey
<merlin-linux> s/hings/things
<Tatey> good mate
<spence> doin real well in the cricket NOT!!!
<spence> Is there a hotkey sequence defined for opening a terminal window?
<spence> can't find one here :- http://allhotkeys.com/unix_linux_hotkeys.html or here http://allhotkeys.com/ubuntu_hotkeys.html
<iodine> anyone handy with grub console
<iodine> I need to change a device from hda1 to sda3 for my root= variable
<Kamping_Kaiser> press E
<siccness> don't forget the great use of tab-completiion for grub console :)
<iodine> it looks like it put /dev/hda1 for my root=
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<iodine> yet the devices.map has /dev/sda etc
<iodine> for hd0
<iodine> hrmm
<iodine> installer screwed up
<iodine> now i get cannot mount selected partitation
<Kamping_Kaiser> woot. * NickServ set your hostname to "unafilliated/kgoetz"
* Kamping_Kaiser runs arround to 'chariots of fire'
<iodine> this is driving me nuts
<iodine> never had so many issues
<iodine> why did they have to bring out sata controllers
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<iodine> stuff just worked previously
<siccness> Bahaha
<Kamping_Kaiser> can you boot, or are you at grub promp?
<Kamping_Kaiser> *t
<iodine> at grub
<iodine> can't boot anything
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<iodine> sda = sata250
<iodine> sdb = sata250 drives
<siccness> It took me about 1hr to work out why i couldnt boot my sata drive, forgot to add doscsi :)
<iodine> sda has my boot/root/swap/home
<iodine> where do I add that
<siccness> to your grub.conf/menu.lst file
<siccness> whatever ubuntu uses
<Kamping_Kaiser> menu.lst
<siccness> here's an example: kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.18 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda3 doscsi
<siccness> initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.18
<iodine> ok thanks
<iodine> do you need doscsi for grub memory thing too
<iodine> I guess so
<siccness> wth is grub memory thing?
<iodine> the 3rd boot item
<iodine> memory checker form boot
<siccness> Oh
<siccness> memtest86
<siccness> you shouldnt need to, no.
<iodine> ahuh
<iodine> thats it
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, whats doscsi?
<siccness> from what i read, allows you to boot scsi/sata drives
<siccness> basically loads scsi support
<siccness> (or sata, if you will)
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'm booting scsi fine
<Kamping_Kaiser> no extra frills on the install either
<siccness> hmm
<iodine> File not found
<iodine> same issue
<iodine> it cant see /boot
<Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, did you change both lines of the menu entry?
<iodine> memtest86 dont even work
<iodine> so thats an indication for you
<iodine> hang 5
<iodine> I see what you mean
<iodine> typo on my part
<iodine> bingo
<iodine> champ
<iodine> oops
<iodine> no go
<siccness> LOL
<iodine> can't access tty
<iodine> initramfs prompt now
<Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, did it load the kernel?
<iodine> no idea
<iodine> got a slash then a bomb
<iodine> default bash prompt
<siccness> splash?
<iodine> fancy ubuntu graphic
<iodine> in e mode
<siccness> yup. try and get verbose happenin on it
<iodine> how do I save the changes out
<Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, when you edit remove 'splash' from the boot options
<iodine> and quiet mode too
<iodine> i think the init/linuxrc is screwing me over
<Kamping_Kaiser> nah, leave quiet
<adhoc> thats got to be the worst mask off and paint job i've done =/
<adhoc> hmmm
<Kamping_Kaiser> :(
<adhoc> anyhow, whats happening?
<siccness> adhoc: car, or house?
<adhoc> bike
<siccness> heheh
<adhoc> the front forks
<adhoc> you know where the crown meets the downtubes on the fork...
<siccness> adhoc: shoulda seen my effort on an old ford mustang
<iodine> the initrd being used I dont think supports what we are trying to do
<siccness> nah i dunno shit about bikes
<iodine> back to a busybox (initramfs) prompt
<iodine> target filesystem doesn't have /linuxrc
<Kamping_Kaiser> iodine, yay, your in
<iodine> in but it locks up
<iodine> :(
<iodine> or atleast no drivers to drive usb keyboard
* Kamping_Kaiser wishes he could get his hands on iodine 's computer
<Kamping_Kaiser> EW
* Kamping_Kaiser runs away from usb keyboard
<iodine> an install using software raid works
<iodine> reboots and works fine
<siccness> usb keyboards/mouses are a waste of a usb port :P
<iodine> using just standard /dev/sda slices and it dont work
<iodine> back on with xp
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, USB keyboards are just a bad idea
<iodine> no way
<iodine> anyways back to problem
<iodine> google some more
* siccness wonders why he cant copy/paste from firefox
<iodine> got an idea
<iodine> see if this fixes it
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, you need X first :)
<siccness> lol
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
* iodine pats himself
<iodine> looks good now
<iodine> :)
<iodine> boots but errors once I hit a prompt
<iodine> oh so close now
* iodine_ stabs iodine
<iodine> rofl
<siccness> How does Nautilus show a thumbnail of a powerpoint presentation when there's nothing I can view the ppt file with?
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<purana> as if I can still a nick if its registered
<purana> some people are stoopid
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<purana> looks like all my filesystems didnt mount
<siccness> heh, bigpond were pretty quick and filling my request :|
<purana> its giving errors
<purana> findfs unable to resolve 'UUID=string.....'
<purana> ah
<purana> its in the fstab on the root
<purana> will go remove all those
<purana> strange the fstab by installer put UUID=blahblahblah for all my /dev/sda's
<purana> done deal
<purana> thanks for the help
<purana> :)
<struth> Do I need samba for accessing a windows share folder or is it only needed for windows to access linux files?
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<struth> I used:- sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=<win login> //ipaddress/sharename /home/libm/dls/itemp
<Kamping_Kaiser> struth, you dont need it per se.
<Kamping_Kaiser> gnome-vfs should handle it
<struth> I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //ipaddress/itemp,
<struth> remote fs is NTFS
<struth> on win box obviously
<purana> mount -t smbfs is kinda depreciated
<purana> I believe you should be using smbmount
<Kamping_Kaiser> struth, you need to install smbfs to use mount of smb
<purana> and mount -t smbfs will hit the 2gb limit on file creation against opposite side
<purserj> you need cifs
<purana> pursej: thats it :P
<siccness> heh
<purana> someone asked on slug mail list the other day
<purana> I remember
<fildo> cifs isnt that some sexually transmitted diease
<fildo> ;p
<struth> working now thanx
<Davo_Dinkum> Hi.
<Davo_Dinkum> No one here?
<onefang> 48 people here, we are just ignoring your "Hi.".
<Davo_Dinkum> Thanks.
<Davo_Dinkum> How can I use my CF to PCMCIA adapter in edgy? I plugged it in but it doesn't show upon the desktop.
<Davo_Dinkum> The CF probably isn't formatted as I just got it.
<onefang> The CF is likely formatted as FAT, check that first.
<Davo_Dinkum> How?
<onefang> Try mounting it manually. fdisk -l might help.
<adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: hi
<onefang> The only other thing I can think of that might help is to plug the CF card into the PCMCIA adaptor first before plugging the adaptor into the computer.
* adhoc pokes onefang, its sunDAY, tinker time
<Davo_Dinkum> onefang: Yeah I did that.
<onefang> Thus endeth my PCMCIA help, I don't have any, so I don't know about them.
<Davo_Dinkum> What does fdisk -l do?
<onefang> List all the partitions on all your disks, mounted or not.
<Davo_Dinkum> Well it didn't do that.
<adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: i have one but couldn't get it to work on dapper
<Davo_Dinkum> Will the adapter show up in lspci?
<adhoc> PCMCIA is an ISA bus, not PCI
<onefang> Hot plug should report vaguely helpful things to the system logs when you plug it in.
<Davo_Dinkum> How do I access hotplug?
<onefang> Should be running by default.
<Davo_Dinkum> Where an earth are the system logs?
<onefang> /var/log/* messages and syslog are the likely ones.
<onefang> I think VT11 is set up to show logs in real time, but that may just be me.
<cafuego_> onefang: not byd efault
<cafuego_> onefang: there's a sample cfg for tty8, but not enabled.
<onefang> Ah, it's just my typical hacking then.
* cafuego_ prefers 'em on the tty9-12 too, last group = logs :-)
<onefang> Exactly.
<cafuego_> kernel/daemon/mail/misc
<hantu> do they still have hotplugs now
<hantu> ?
<siccness> Sweeet, 2.6.19 has K8 Temp Support
<siccness> (k8temp)
<Davo_Dinkum> It does detect a PC card: [17427672.456000] pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
<adhoc> maybe its not got a driver associated with the device?
<Davo_Dinkum> Probably not.
<adhoc> maybe you need to hack /etc/pcmcia/*ide* config file
<Davo_Dinkum> Where could I get a driver
<Davo_Dinkum> ?
<Davo_Dinkum> How would I hack that config file exactly?
<Davo_Dinkum> The only file in my /etc/pcmcia directory is config.opts
<Davo_Dinkum> Hello?
<Davo_Dinkum> How can I get my CF to PCMCIA adapter working?
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<Davo_Dinkum> Presuming that the adapter is not at fault, how would I go about formatting the card?
<Davo_Dinkum> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kernel/main.php Will this help?
<siccness> thats for kernel 2.4.*
<Davo_Dinkum> Oh.
<Davo_Dinkum> This? http://marc2.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-thinkpad&m=112537951117934&w=3
<siccness> Doubt it.
<siccness> What's this CF to PCMCIA thingo?
<siccness> I'm assuming it's a flash disk type thing?
<Davo_Dinkum> Why? Cos it's redhat stuff?
<Davo_Dinkum> Yeah, it's a CF card.
<siccness> http://www.notestation.com/cfpccard.htm <--that?
<Davo_Dinkum> No, not that.
<Davo_Dinkum> This is a CF card reader. You plug a CF card into this device and then you plug the device into a PCMCIA slot.
<Davo_Dinkum> Like so: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.datavis.com/images/CRD/619659015480L.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.datavis.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay%3Fprrfnbr%3D441521%26prmenbr%3D2000&h=200&w=200&sz=10&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=WqCzrCz83QIb8M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCF%2BPCMCIA%2Bcard%2Badapter%26svnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
<Davo_Dinkum> Ooops sorry long link.
<siccness> No problems. So it's a PCMCIA CF Card Reader?
<Davo_Dinkum> Yes!
<Davo_Dinkum> Piccy: http://www.deals101.com/ext/hw/img_500/PCMCIA_CF1_card_with_laptop.jpg
<Davo_Dinkum> So how do I get it working now?
<siccness> try the redhat link
<siccness> but i dunno :|
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<cafuego> oh yeah?
<Davo_Dinkum> /dev/hda is the hard drive, right?
<cafuego> it's the primary master parallel ata drive
<Davo_Dinkum> It wouldn't be the PCMCIA CF Card Reader with a CF card in it, would it then?
<cafuego> if it's the only ide channel/drive the mahcine has, yes it is
<Davo_Dinkum> Well then my PCMCIA CF Card Reader is not showing up in sudo fdisk -l
<Davo_Dinkum> I'm just looking at this giude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301298
<Davo_Dinkum> *guide
<cafuego> check in /proc to see if it's claimed by a driver
<cafuego> /proc/bus/ide or somesuch
<Davo_Dinkum> ide? This isn't ide.
<Davo_Dinkum> I don't have a folder called "ide" in /proc/bus anyway
<adhoc> CF in pcmcia is ide
<Kamping_Kaiser> :%s/folder/file
<adhoc> :%s/folder/file/g
<Kamping_Kaiser> /g?
<cafuego> /proc/ide/*
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: /g = global (ie: all occurrences)
<Kamping_Kaiser> oh.... sweet
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: You need the terminating / regardless
<cafuego> :%s/foo/bar/
<cafuego> only does the first occurrence on a line afaik
<Davo_Dinkum> How does :%s/folder/file or :%s/folder/file/g help me? I have no idea what to do with that.
<cafuego> :%s/fooo/bar/g does them all
<cafuego> Davo_Dinkum: sed is the answer to everything
<Davo_Dinkum> sed?
<cafuego> sed!
<siccness> man sad
<cafuego> stream editor
<cafuego> like vi, but you can files into it :-)
<siccness> s/sad/sed/
<cafuego> can cat files into it
<cafuego> siccness: pfffrt
<siccness> ;-)
<Davo_Dinkum> How does that help me get this PCMCIA CF Card Reader working?
<Davo_Dinkum> Back soon.
<Davo_Dinkum> leave
<fildo> !katapult
<ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
<fildo> nice app
<hantu> ew
<merlin-linux> ni hao hantu
<hantu> ni hao quail!
<hantu> :D
<merlin-linux> how are you?
<hantu> im good, good! how's you?
<merlin-linux> does anyone know how to stop a cd coming up with the wrong label and being unreadable cause it got the wrong label
<merlin-linux> i installed disk one of two and when the second disk is insterted the thing thinks it disk one
<siccness> You sure you didn't write disk 1 twice? :P
<merlin-linux> i had to unmount the first disk like this sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
<merlin-linux> siccness: no cause it a game
<merlin-linux> and it the original disks
<siccness> so when you insert the second disk, is it being automounted?
<merlin-linux> no i have to manually mount it
<merlin-linux> brb i restarting this fen thing and start the install again
<siccness> tried mounting it to another location?
<quail> sorry i just getting pissed off
<siccness> Hehe, :)
<quail> i might have to dump the cd's as iso to my hdd and mount them from there to the cdrom
<siccness> quail: that's how real men do it.
<siccness> :)
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<quail> auto mount pisses me off to sometimes
<quail> i think i will end up turning it off if i can
<siccness> of course you can turn it off
<hantu> /etc/fstab me thinks
<new_to_ubuntu> hi hantu
<hantu> hi new_to_ubuntu
<new_to_ubuntu> Can I run KDE programmes on my GNOME desktop ?
<noiesmo> new_to_ubuntu, yes
<new_to_ubuntu> May I know how ?
<siccness> new_to_ubuntu: when you go to install a kde application, it'll install kde libs and what not
<hantu> i dont run kde/gnome, but i think if you install a kde apps, they'll require you to install some libs
<hantu> oops, retardedly slow i am :(
<new_to_ubuntu> Ok.
<Kamping_Kaiser> also find the gtk+qt .... to late
<hantu> hi K, sicc
<merlin-linux> does anyone know how to umount something that does not want to unmount
<merlin-linux> nvm i found the reason why it was not umounting
<Hit3k> you were still in the directory werent you ;)
<hantu> lawl
<siccness> Hit3k: haha, i make that mistake too often
<Hit3k> siccness, so do i
<siccness> I sit there and abuse the screen, then I realise "ahh for f skae"
<siccness> There should be a print/echo message saying "Hey idiot, how 'bout you get out of the directory"
<owh> Greetings, anyone here been playing with time-zone files and have any suggestions on patching them for WA-daylight saving?
<Hit3k> oh crap I forgot you westeners went to daylight savings
<owh> Yup
<owh> There's a bug logged, but there doesn't seem anyone allocated to the work :-(
<siccness> owh: yeah, a piss poor effort really
<Hit3k> you cant just put your clock ahead an hour?
<owh> I can change my timezone to Tokyo, but no, I can't just change it forward, seeing that it synchronises with the 'net.
<Hit3k> ah..
<owh> Bug #72125
<Hit3k> well seeing as how the WA DST is only in trial for the next 3 years.. it shouldnt really be done because if you dont end up doing it its gonna be a waste of time
<Hit3k> you could just move to the east coast
<siccness> Hit3k: wrong.
<owh> Nope, the tzdata has begin and end dates and times, so you can patch them specifically.
<owh> I even have the format for one of the files, but not all three. (Noting that two of them are identical)
<Hit3k> ah well
<Hit3k> I dont use ubuntu anymore
<siccness> owh: these are the three lines for the debian package
<siccness> RuleAW2006only-Dec 32:00s1:00-
<siccness> RuleAW20072009-MarlastSun2:00s0-
<siccness> RuleAW20072008-OctlastSun2:00s1:00-
<owh> Seems WA has had daylight saving in 1917, 1942, 1974, 1983 and 1991.
<siccness> yes
<siccness> it's just NT that has never seen it, iirc
<Hit3k> Queensland doesnt do it cause it has something to do with the curtains
<fildo> !openvpn
<ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 948 kB
<fildo> !update
<ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
<owh> siccness: Yeah, but the three files are binary, so no text file editing, and only two are the same, the third one is different.
<owh> My wireless is playing up and reauthenticating every 10 seconds :-(
<siccness> hmm
<siccness> Sorry mate, I don't use ubuntu either - can't really help ya.
<siccness> that and i have no idea how tzdata works :P
<owh> Which files does the debian tzdata package have that contain Perth?
<incon> yeah some other distro's are fixed :/
<owh> dpkg -L tzdata|grep Perth
<siccness> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2006p.orig.tar.gz
<siccness> It'll be under "Australiasnaianaa"
<siccness> or whatever
<owh> Yeah, but I don't want the original one, I need an updated one :-(
<praetorian> we are under "Australia"
<Hit3k> dont worry about the WA thing
<Hit3k> Windows didnt do it either
<praetorian> usuing /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Perth
<Hit3k> I asked my friend who lives there
<praetorian> gentoo did
<praetorian> so ner
<praetorian> :>
<owh> praetorian: Yes, I know that, but the files are binary, so I cannot edit them.
<owh> Hit3k: Your friend is mis-informed. There is a Windows patch, though it breaks other things :-)
<owh> Hit3k: If you apply it, you may loose appointments, so the suggestion is to print out your appointments, then patch, then type them back in - seriously :-)
<owh> Hit3k: That comes from Microsoft as I understand it :-)
<praetorian> well you can..
<Hit3k> or you can tell microsoft to go shove it
<praetorian> didnt ubuntu release a patch?
<siccness> praetorian: no
<owh> Not yet.
<Hit3k> will they? probably not
<praetorian> they will
<owh> Well there is a critical bug logged, confirmed and documented, just doesn't appear to be allocated to anyone.
<owh> The biggest problem is that it was logged on the 17th of November and nothing much happened.
<praetorian> so fix it, you just need to repackage the 2006p in a .deb
<praetorian> really
<owh> Sigh, as I said, the tzdata files are binary, tell me how to edit those binary files, and I'll be there...
<praetorian> man zic / man zdump
<owh> All I have is zdump which parses the file from binary into human readable.
<praetorian> you edit a text file and compile it
<owh> Now we're talking, zic :-)
<owh> Hmm, another bug, apropos timezone, doesn't show zic, because it uses 'time zone' and not 'timezone' in the man page - lovely.
<owh> I could have fixed this hours ago :-(
<owh> Thanks praetorian!
<Hit3k> yah about 2.. or... 1am?
<Hit3k> what was it like not having 2-3am
<owh> Hit3k: Like having it twice next year - a non event :-)
<siccness> probably the same feeling we have when we're asleep, no care existing ;)
<Hit3k> hmm
<Hit3k> good point
<Hit3k> So school finishes on thursday thank god and im gonna have 6-8 weeks to work on an LFS system
<Hit3k> how excitement
<siccness> Cool
<Davo_Dinkum> Why won't this stupid card work? It's just a CF card.
<siccness> Is it going to work? or are you going to do what everyone else does and just stops half way through it and claims "nah too hard" :)
<Davo_Dinkum> LFS?
<siccness> Linux From Scratch
<Davo_Dinkum> Rolling your own distro?
<Hit3k> yeah something like that
<Davo_Dinkum> Nice. Make sure you base it on gNewSense.
<siccness> I can see it being a good learning experience, but I dunno how often one would continue to maintain/update it
<Hit3k> I'd somehow get portage or apt-get onto the system
<siccness> i'd say "somehow" would be the best word, yes :)
<siccness> Good luck with it though
<Hit3k> ;)
<Hit3k> hm
<Hit3k> shower time
<siccness> rejoining a domain in windows xp is stupid
<Davo_Dinkum> What the f*** is red wine vinegar?! What a f****** stupid idea. Let's f****** get f****** plonked at dinner. F****** bullsh!t.
<Davo_Dinkum> /end rant
<siccness> !language
<ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
<Davo_Dinkum> Eh it was all censored.
<siccness> Oh, so that makes it ok? :)
<Davo_Dinkum> Maybe. Who knows.
<Davo_Dinkum> I'm just pissed because I can't get this card working.
<siccness> Fair enough
<Kamping_Kaiser> if your going to swear, do it properly
<Davo_Dinkum> And get kicked from the channel!
<Davo_Dinkum> ?
<Kamping_Kaiser> not by me
<Kamping_Kaiser> personnaly, trying to disguise swearing when people know what it is anyway seems totally pointless
<siccness> I think there should be a rule where you're allowed to swear for certain situations, eg: not being able to rejoin a domain under windows
<siccness> or anything related to windows
<Kamping_Kaiser> afk again. i still need some time to think
<DarkMageZ> what about things related to linux?
<siccness> DarkMageZ: Depends. If it's related to something like Nautilus, than yes.
<DarkMageZ> aren't you discriminating then
<siccness> Yes.
<DarkMageZ> why can't we swear about anything linux related?
<DarkMageZ> why does it have to be specific to thngs like nautilus?
<siccness> Because I said.
<siccness> :)
<elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, disguising protects the little kiddies
<siccness> Does anyone here have a good method of remember things?
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, i doubt it
* adhoc swears he didn't think that he'd get the bike back together today ...
<adhoc> elkbuntu: which little kiddies?
<siccness> adhoc: the non-existant ones
<adhoc> elkbuntu: like siccness
<elkbuntu> adhoc, the ones that purserj lets mess around with interviews
<siccness> Hahahaha
<elkbuntu> adhoc, yes, and sicc-boy
<siccness> I'm a big kid? :)
<adhoc> perhaps...
<siccness> So no one has a good method of remembering stuff?
<Davo_Dinkum> siccness: What are you trying to remember?
<siccness> Phases of Project Management Life Cycle
<siccness> and descriptions of them
<Davo_Dinkum> Oh yesah I did that.
<adhoc> siccness: garbage in, garbage out
<Davo_Dinkum> *yeah
<siccness> adhoc: i hear ya ;)
<adhoc> siccness: learn to regurgitate, you'll not actually ever use it
<adhoc> siccness: remember, this is purely for the gratification of your teacher/lecturer/tutor/etc ...
<siccness> yes but how to learn to regurgitate is really the question
<adhoc> oh
<siccness> maybe getting off irc would be step 1
<siccness> but let's face it, that aint gonna happen
<Davo_Dinkum> WTF?!!!?!?! I just stuck my PCMCIA CF card reader in (with the CF card in it) and it mounted automatically! Yay!
<Davo_Dinkum> It's mounted as /media/scsidisk
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders why the docbook-defguide is so amazingly broken
<Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Make an acroynym out of the steps.
<siccness> Davo_Dinkum: tried
<siccness> but CSPO isn't easy
<Davo_Dinkum> CSPO?
<siccness> Concept, Schedule, Progress and Outcome
<Davo_Dinkum> Pronounce it "cesspo"
<siccness> Not such a bad idea; however, I can see myself in the exam tomorrow trying to work out what "E" is
<Davo_Dinkum> It's 4 letters. How hard is that?
<s1mple_m4n> (*)
<siccness> Davo_Dinkum: 1 harder than 3 letters.
<Kamping_Kaiser> 25% harder
<siccness> Indeed.
<siccness> Thanks for the top notch math work, Kamping_Kaiser :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> *grin*
<adhoc> siccness: cess pool
<siccness> LO
<siccness> *LOL
<adhoc> 33% harder, actually
<siccness> I think it might be time for sicc to revert back to the 1800s, pen and paper and repeat 30,000 times
<adhoc> wicked, sounds like a plan
<adhoc> except you'll be hitting the quill and parchment
* Kamping_Kaiser hates docbook-defguide - absolutely invaluable doc, and missing pages all over the place.
<siccness> time to spend 5hrs to find a pen :)
<adhoc> or chalk and slate
<adhoc> siccness: read it out loud, a few times
<Davo_Dinkum> Make a mind map and stick in a place you look at regularly, like next to your monitor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_map
<adhoc> hi rob
<rob> hi adhoc
<elkbuntu> hi rob :)
<rob> hello elkbuntu
<rob> hmm fresh edgy install, the only thing I don't like is the xchat font..
<adhoc> elkbuntu: you figured what you're going to see at LCA07 ?
<elkbuntu> i always change the xchat font
<rob> yeah I have been but can't find a good one
<elkbuntu> adhoc, only as far as the miniconfs
<adhoc> its funny how the font is the first thing that most folks change, esp terminals ...
<hysterio> how many ubuntu-au folk are going to lca07?
<elkbuntu> hysterio, not sure yet
<Hit3k> Man
<Hit3k> theres absolutely nothing on TV tonight
* Hit3k watch indiana jones
<hysterio> it would be good to have some kinda ubuntu-au get together
<Hit3k> what does this look like?
<siccness> Sure would hysterio, so how do you want to pay for my accommodation and LCA pass? cheque or cash?
<adhoc> hysterio: Kamping_Kaiser, lucychili and myself will be there...
<elkbuntu> hysterio, we'll probably be having a booth at some point, when i figure what to ask for
<adhoc> elkbuntu: get a couple of ubuntu posters up
<elkbuntu> adhoc, do any of your lot have an ubuntu booth banner at all?
<adhoc> elkbuntu: get a presence up as background noise ;)
<adhoc> elkbuntu: booth banner? um .. no
<elkbuntu> posters are a given...
<Hit3k> hm
* elkbuntu might have to go invest in some pvc sheeting
<Hit3k> Canonical might have on from Linux World they can lend you ;)
<adhoc> elkbuntu: talk to lucychili about that kinda thing ;)
<elkbuntu> Hit3k, im hoping so
<elkbuntu> Hit3k, but at this point i dont know
<Hit3k> I cant go cause im to young and have no money.
<elkbuntu> no such thing as too young
<Hit3k> there is in casinos and pubs :p
<Hit3k> and strip clubs
<adhoc> elkbuntu: you could go for ubuntu napkins at all the food outlets
<elkbuntu> LCA isnt a pub
<Hit3k> and normal clubs
<elkbuntu> adhoc, lol
<adhoc> Hit3k: there are ?
<siccness> strip club == casino, you blow money on nothing.
<elkbuntu> adhoc, can we stick to stuff that doesnt involve a tonne of outlay?
<Hit3k> <elkbuntu> no such thing as too young
<adhoc> elkbuntu: sure ...
<Hit3k> elkbuntu, stick Ubuntu CDs in the Lavington (err not sure about the spelling) Mcdonalds
<adhoc> elkbuntu: there are days when i even have realistic ideas
<siccness> Hit3k: yes, she was referrring to "no such thing as too young for LCA"
<elkbuntu> adhoc, if we outlay for printing/etc it'd be for something uber cool, like ubuntu badges
<Hit3k> fine then
<elkbuntu> Hit3k, ha.. hahaha...
<Hit3k> i have no money
<adhoc> elkbuntu: yeah, but saturate a space ...
<Hit3k> I always stop there on my way to wagga or sydney
<adhoc> Hit3k: where are you anyways?
<Hit3k> melburn
<siccness> Too close to me :|
<adhoc> ah ok
<elkbuntu> Hit3k, you dont leave potential missiles laying around in lavington, trust me on that one
<Hit3k> correction siccness you're to close to me
<adhoc> Hit3k: you could catcha lift with siccness in his hotrod ;)
<siccness> adhoc: only when someone sends me some money to pay for it :P
<siccness> and Hit3k cannot handle the raw power of the commodore
<Hit3k> :o not true.
<adhoc> Hit3k: siccness is going to get a job at dominos or pizza hut or something ...
<elkbuntu> if i were to leave cds in the Lavi maccas, there'd be reports of cds being thrown at vehicles on the highway
<siccness> BAHAHAHAHA
<siccness> <--be dead before I get a job at Dominoes/Pizza Hut
<Hit3k> dominos?
<Hit3k> SICKO
<adhoc> Hit3k: that way siccness can pay for himself ;)
<siccness> Trust me, I'd rather miss LCA then get a job at dominoes
<adhoc> siccness: or subway ... or ... nandos
<siccness> Again, I hate them all.
<adhoc> siccness: you don't have to eat there,
<siccness> Yes, but if I have to work there, than I have to deal with customers.
<adhoc> siccness: just serve the slobs their grease on a plate ;)
<siccness> Hahaha
<adhoc> siccness: you don
<adhoc> siccness: you don't need any social skill to work there,
<siccness> I have social skills
<adhoc> so you'll fit right in =P
<siccness> Great social skills, in fact.
<siccness> I just don't like to use them.
<adhoc> oh yeah ...
<elkbuntu> siccness, you only need the social skills of a 15yrold dork
<siccness> Plus, there's something that really bothers me about Nando's T-Shirts, "No Fat Chicks" and "I make the Chicks hot!"
<elkbuntu> they seriously have that on their tshirts?
<siccness> Yes
<elkbuntu> that's effed up
<siccness> Which is just another reason why the company deserves to rot into the ground
<adhoc> elkbuntu: yes, and "chicks rule"
<siccness> Sure, it's a play on words. But it's pathetic, and that be considered insulting.
<elkbuntu> i'm one of these--> "No Fat Chicks"
<siccness> s/that/can/
<siccness> that and their food is shithouse
* adhoc hugs elkbuntu
<siccness> oh and overpriced
<siccness> not to mention their LIFO approach
<adhoc> siccness: yes, that they are
<adhoc> diversity is a wonderful thing ;)
<elkbuntu> LIFO? Like it or...?
<adhoc> so this is good that one can wander on over to the vege cafe and spend almost as much as you would at nandos for a meal =)
<siccness> LIFO = Last In First Out
<siccness> FIFO = First In First Out
<siccness> FILO = First In Last Out
<elkbuntu> ok. them's new to me
<siccness> :)
<Hit3k> i hope you mean when buying the stuff
<siccness> big sicc taught elkbuntu something
<siccness> Hit3k: yes
<Tatey> evening fella's
<siccness> Heya Tatey
<Tatey> what's happening?
<siccness> Well I'm just doing my usual 9pm bitch, you?
* adhoc soothes siccness's wild mood swings ...
<siccness> Haha
* adhoc sings ...
* siccness sings phil collins - easy lover
<fildo> nice thats siccness . didnt know that
<fildo> lol
<fildo> n on that note im heading to bed
<fildo> seeya peeps, work @ 5am
<fildo> yay
<siccness> Catchya mate, take care.
<adhoc> night fildo
<Davo_Dinkum> Night.
* adhoc has a dog asleep on his foot
<adhoc> warm
<adhoc> fuzzy
<siccness> annoying?
<adhoc> siccness: no.
<adhoc> she trys to be annoying in order to get dinner,
<adhoc> but its noice
<siccness> yeah my cats are like telecommunication survey callers, annoying at certain times.
<Davo_Dinkum> Hey something just occured to me. How will I switch to the 10th channel in irssi?
<Tatey> q
<adhoc> Ctrl-N
<adhoc> Ctrl-P
<Tatey> wait, 10th channel is 0
<Tatey> then 11th is q
<Tatey> 12 is w
<Tatey> etc etc
<purana> adhoc our dog will annoy you until you feed her
<Davo_Dinkum> So I press Alt+q for the 11th channel?
<siccness> Actually, you can press alt+1+0 (do it quickly) to get to the 10th channel
<adhoc> she moved, the level of oxygen under my desk fell rapidly.... we have lentil soupd for lunch
<Tatey> I run a nice little script that displays channel names
<Hit3k> link?
<elkbuntu> Tatey, .. you have channel names in irssi?
<adhoc> anyhow, elkbuntu what other ideas did you have?
<elkbuntu> adhoc, bimberi and i both think we need to have 'sample bags'
<elkbuntu> cd, stickers, info sheets
<elkbuntu> and the badges if we make em
<adhoc> what kinda badges?
<Davo_Dinkum> How can I check what filesystem my CF card is formatted as?
<adhoc> fdisk?
<adhoc> normall they are formated vfat
<elkbuntu> adhoc, sorta like http://www.badgeaminit.com/ ones
<Davo_Dinkum> Would /dev/sda1 be the CF card?
<siccness> sd = scsi/sata
<adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: sounds plausable
<elkbuntu> adhoc, if you have access to a badge press, components, and the time to make some badges, please let me know
<siccness> and someone said before that pcmcia was also that?
<Tatey> siccness: in 2.6.19, HDD and optical drives regardless if they're SATA or PATA use SDX now
<adhoc> elkbuntu: way cool =D
<siccness> ahh shit
<siccness> That's why it wouldnt boot
<Tatey> there is a new PATA subsystem
<siccness> Thanks for that Tatey
<Tatey> siccness: wasn't there a notice for you?
<siccness> I spent about 2hrs compiling kernels
<siccness> nope :|
<elkbuntu> adhoc, im going to guess lucychili may have a clue about that stuff :)
<lucychili> whats up elkbuntu?
<siccness> Tatey: i was too excited by "k8temp" to even pay attention :P
<Tatey> nub :P
<siccness> Heheh
<adhoc> elkbuntu: i little blossum just told me that you can get the locally for around 250$
<adhoc> s/the/them/
<elkbuntu> lucychili, do you have access to a badge press you can loan?
* adhoc pokes lucychili
<elkbuntu> adhoc, schools etc sometimes have them afaik. none here have any more :(
<lucychili> i dont
<lucychili> they charge for them
<lucychili> they are around 250$ last time i priced
<lucychili> we could do the grants la thing
<siccness> Tatey: show me your entry in menu/grub file
<adhoc> what do the badges cost?
<lucychili> and buy one for general la use
<lucychili> the badges also cost
<Tatey> siccness: I use LVM2, it would be of no use to you
<siccness> bah shi
<lucychili> for the backs and the acetate circles
<elkbuntu> yeah, i know
<Tatey> siccness: you need to update your /etc/fstab entries too
<lucychili> think around $1 per but not sure on that
* adhoc googles
<lucychili> elkbuntu have a chat to mr purser about whether la would like to get one for all round linux promotion
<siccness> Tatey: hang on though, my boot drive is sda
<Tatey> siccness: if your drive was previously hda, it'll be sda
<lucychili> people would have to get the consumable stuff for their own event
<siccness> bah damn it
<siccness> this is stupid
<elkbuntu> lucychili, it was just a thought. it might be too close to get it possible for this LCA
<lucychili> but its worth a try for the gadget
<Tatey> if you already had a sata drive, the pata drive will take preference to the sata drive
<elkbuntu> definately
<siccness> Tatey: so if my sata drive is sda (in .18), what would it be for .19?
<Tatey> thefore if you had a pata drive that's hda and a sata drive that's sda, your pata drive becomes sda and your sata drive becomes sdb
<Davo_Dinkum> Does SATA work well under Ubuntu?
<Tatey> Davo_Dinkum: very well
<Davo_Dinkum> With MythTV?
<Tatey> what does MythTV have to do with SATA HDD's?
<Davo_Dinkum> Gotta store all those movies and music somewhere.
* siccness shakes his head
<Tatey> yes, well, you can use MythTV and a SATA HDD very easily
<Davo_Dinkum> I was reading somewhere that SATA wasn't well supported under Ubuntu.
<Tatey> that's strange...
<Davo_Dinkum> Or that might've been SATA RAID setups (when booting from them).
<Tatey> I am running 4x 320GB HDD's with SATA in RAID5 with Ubuntu + MythTV
<Tatey> you may be referring to the native onboard RAID, which, isn't true RAID to begin with ;)
<Davo_Dinkum> RAID is better from PCI SATA cards?
<hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: Depends on which ones
<Tatey> it depends on your application. It's generally accepted that true hardware RAID SATA cards are superior to software RAID
<popey> that's debateable
<hysterio> i agree with popey
<popey> you can pick up a software raid set of physical disks and put in another machine with a different controller
<Tatey> the onboard RAID included with most motherboards is "fake-raid" in which it appears to be hardware RAID in configuration, except it requires an appropriate driver with the OS
<popey> you generally can't do that with hardware raid
<adhoc> elkbuntu: ok, start here;
<adhoc> http://www.custombadges.com.au/pricelist.html
<adhoc> http://www.barebadges.com/content/prices.htm
<Tatey> I said "generally accepted" in terms of performance
<Tatey> I personally use software RAID, and prefer it in preference to hardware RAID. I also have a hardware raid controller
<popey> heh, no you didn't you said "generally accepted" - which is wrong :)
<hysterio> Tatey: unless you are hammering the cpu(s) of the machines, I doubt you will notice much of a difference
<popey> hysterio: depends on the CPU
<adhoc> http://www.abilitybadges.com.au/index3.htm
<Davo_Dinkum> Looks like I fired up the topic.
<Tatey> popey: I did say generally accepted, scroll up
<popey> you did
<elkbuntu> adhoc, thankyou! who'd be interested in putting in for badges?
<popey> but you didn't say performace
<Tatey> sorry, that's what I implied. I should have been more specific
<popey> :)
<popey> </pedant>
<siccness> Tatey: did you get my PM?
<hysterio> i have an areca 8 port pci-e raid controller, and im using software raid5
<adhoc> elkbuntu: wow check this one out;
<adhoc> http://www.schoolsupply.com.au/category2_1.htm
<popey> I have a server here on hardware raid on an old compaq proliant and I am eager to move it off to software raid
<popey> one disk has already gone pop and has been replaced
<Tatey> I love mdadm, it's such a great software RAID utility
<hysterio> admittedly it is running on a dual xeon 3ghz - and the speed difference between software and hardware raid wasnt huge - i prefer being able to move my disks to another machine and have the hope of getting info off them than 5% performance boost
<siccness> bah i better grab a bourbon before i get annoyed :P
<hysterio> Tatey: mdadm is awesome
<Tatey> I concur :)
<adhoc> mdadm is ok, hardware raid is better
<hysterio> adhoc: i'd agree with you in certain applications
* adhoc needs to play with the multipath stuff again
<adhoc> hysterio: cheapness is not one of them ...
<hysterio> no im not talking cheapness ;)
<hysterio> adhoc: ive been burned by some dodgy "proper" raid controllers in the past. I only use hardware raid now if I really need to (eg on a server with highish cpu utilization)
<adhoc> hysterio: my server here gets hammered...
<adhoc> it'd never keep up with RAID5 in software
<adhoc> its only got 1GB of RAM, so the disk FS cache doesn't help much, but the controller cache does ;)
<Tatey> I'm running 4x 320GB's in RAID5 on a dual core Athlon 64 3600+
<Tatey> admittedly, this isn't a high traffic file server
<Tatey> it's mostly for personal use
<adhoc> Tatey: =) i got 6x250GB PATA
<hysterio> Tatey: one of my boxes here runs 8x300gb drives off an Areca controller - running software raid5
<siccness> Oh big men talkin about how big their hard drives are
<adhoc> it can sustain 35MB/s writes ;)
<hysterio> :)
<hysterio> comparing ePen*s
<siccness> Penis? :P
* hysterio respectfully declines the offer
<siccness> :P
<adhoc> :-------------
<adhoc> that came out all wrong
<adhoc> ;)
<siccness> lol
<pschulz01> Evening adhoc :-)
<Hit3k> theres no respect in two men talking about penises casually
<elkbuntu> in a public, family-friendly channel
<adhoc> hi pschulz01
<adhoc> Hit3k: when your old enough, you should visit a pub ...
<adhoc> things change...
<Hit3k> Oh. I've been to ettamogah (again spelling) but i was like 2 years old
<adhoc> that hardly counts
<adhoc> Hit3k: all in good time...
<elkbuntu> that's hardly a pub
<Hit3k> would a 500Gb external hdd from the apple store be worth just using on linux? :P
<Hit3k> elkbuntu, I agree...
* siccness smacks Hit3k
<adhoc> elkbuntu: everytime i've been past it, it looked more like a tourist trap
<adhoc> er .. tourist attraction
<elkbuntu> adhoc, well yes. that's basically what it is.
<Davo_Dinkum> What is? The apple store?
<Hit3k> no the ettamogah pub
<Hit3k> Is that even the right spelling? am i making a complete ass of myself everytime i type that?
<Davo_Dinkum> Yeah.
<elkbuntu> it's correct, yes
<Hit3k> the apple store in new york is a tourist trap
<siccness> Hit3k: the latter :P
<Davo_Dinkum> The cube thingy?
<Hit3k> yeah
<Hit3k> I want to buy my ipod there
<pschulz01> adhoc: Should I change the name of my application?
<adhoc> pschulz01: um .. what application?
<pschulz01> adhoc: 'applestore'
<pschulz01> adhoc: My distributed object (content) store
<adhoc> pschulz01: sorry, i have no idea what we are all on about...
<pschulz01> adhoc: hehe..
<adhoc> hi klepas
<pschulz01> adhoc: I don't know how the topic came up just now, by that was what I had decided to call my current project.
<siccness> applestore hey
<siccness> intriguing
<adhoc> pschulz01: did yo usee in the paper about how they adelaide council wants to make rundle mall like the "Times square" thing?
<adhoc> pschulz01: hmmm
<pschulz01> adhoc: Yes.. I saw that.. it was next to the Ai2 token,
<siccness> This version of gaim is rooted.
<Davo_Dinkum> rootkitted?
* adhoc hands siccness a Roo
<klepas> rarr
<klepas> hey adhoc
<klepas> :)
<adhoc> siccness: or does it root packets?
<siccness> it roots me
<adhoc> from one interface to another
<siccness> telling me it cant send a message
<siccness> despite the fact the receiver got the message
* adhoc notes the recipricating action ...
<siccness> and "cannot send messages while invisible"..uhh but im not invisible
<siccness> :|
<adhoc> siccness: no, we can see your output here just fine
<siccness> yea this is irssi
<siccness> not gaim :P
<adhoc> huh!
<siccness> Either I have lost the plot, or you have adhoc :P
<siccness> Tough call :)
* adhoc stagers AFK
<adhoc> dog f*rt
<siccness> heheh
<adhoc> ahh ... pesky dogs out side scarfing foods
* adhoc contemplates installing brakes on the bike
<siccness> adhoc: nah yo udont need em
<siccness> use your feet
<adhoc> siccness: it is a fixie, so i just backpedal ... sort of
<adhoc> resist the pedals
* adhoc considers food
* adhoc considers a shower
* siccness considers study
<flaccid> yay my ubuntu server is running all services
<flaccid> on er dialup
<siccness> why do i always leave it a tthe last minute
<adhoc> =)
<adhoc> siccness: because you can, and there is little perceived risk
<adhoc> what are you leaving to the last minute?
<adhoc> studying?
<siccness> Yeah, Project Management shit
<siccness> im expected to remember shit like this: optimistic time + 4x most likely time + pessemistic time / 6
<adhoc> ah, truely joyous contenct ;)
<siccness> when in reality, i couldnt care less.
<adhoc> is it core to the important stuff in your course?
<siccness> no, it's entirely irrelevant
<siccness> but apparently employers look for people with management skills
<adhoc> jsut pass it and get on with the important stuff
<siccness> it's a massive course next year
<siccness> this is my final exam tomorrow
<adhoc> siccness: thats cause managers have no management skills
<siccness> but what's interesting is
<siccness> everything that we've learnt so far
<adhoc> and rely on they works to save their arses
<siccness> is just logical, and you'd do it anyway
<adhoc> s/works/workers/
<siccness> but because the test will be based on "regurgitating" answers from sheets, ill fail
<adhoc> siccness: you'll remember the stuff
<adhoc> just print it out, walk around the house and read it out loud
<siccness> heh
<Davo_Dinkum> What timezone is Melbourne in? I'm just setting up my PDA.
<Davo_Dinkum> GMT?
<adhoc> GMT is greenwich mean time
<adhoc> in the UK
<hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: GMT +10
<adhoc> melbourne is GMT -10
<adhoc> +10 is alaska?
<hysterio> we are ahead of GMT
<Davo_Dinkum> All it says is GMT.
<adhoc> adelaide is GMT -9:30
<siccness> people people people
<hysterio> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=152
<adhoc> oh
<adhoc> +9:30 then
<hysterio> :)
* adhoc can never remember
<siccness> :P
<adhoc> thats why i have a peecee
<siccness> we're not minus gmt
<siccness> haha
<hysterio> i wish it was gmt -10 - i would still have some w/end left :)
<Fujitsu> We are! We're just -14 plus a day!
<siccness> Fujitsu: Heh, you again with your randomness.
* Fujitsu goes to bed.
<siccness> How are ya mate?
<siccness> fair enough, night!
* hysterio likes Fujitsu's logic
<Fujitsu> siccness: Of course, that's me.
* Fujitsu isn't too bad!
<Fujitsu> Tired, though.
<siccness> good to hear
<Fujitsu> Goooonight, all.
<siccness> night mate
<Fujitsu> +d
<Davo_Dinkum> Night.
* adhoc hands Fujitsu a +4 wand of logic
<achjo> hello everyone
* Fujitsu uses it on adhoc.
<achjo> can someone please help me, i would like to install yahoo messenger, is it possible on ubuntu ?
<Davo_Dinkum> Just use Gaim.
<achjo> i already use that but my friend would like to test his webcam and i can't figure out how to on gaim =p
<Kamping_Kaiser> webcam.... bhahahahaha
<siccness> adhoc: heh, you werer right. a lot of this is just coin to me rather quickly
<adhoc> maybe with ekiga?
<siccness> achjo: no support
<siccness> you need to use amsn for webcam support (on msn)
<adhoc> yahoo is a closed, dead format, use jabber instead =)
<siccness> gaim does not support it
<achjo> so you don't think there is a point in installing yahoo, just to test it ?
<Davo_Dinkum> Not really.
<adhoc> achjo: try ekiga
<adhoc> that works
<achjo> does it work with yahoo ?
<Davo_Dinkum> Yay! Familiar on my handheld!
<Davo_Dinkum> I'm off! See ya!
<adhoc> night all
<hysterio> night adhoc
<merlin-linux> well i have tried my hardest to get a game to run under wine
<hysterio> what game?
<merlin-linux> sacred
* elkbuntu only just now, after 3 days, notices popey
<elkbuntu> well, 2 days actually
<elkbuntu> no, 3...
<Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
<elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, i know who he is, and that's all that matters
<hantu> O_o
* popey waves to elkbuntu
* elkbuntu waves back at popey
<elkbuntu> are you stalking me mister? :)
<popey> Yes
<popey> I am
<popey> Mwahahahahahaaaaaaaa
<popey> etc
<elkbuntu> oh dear, i may have to hide now
<siccness> I might have the biggest beer of all time after my exam is finished
<Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
<popey> don't worry, being 24 hours by plane away keeps you /relatively/ safe
<siccness> I'm thinking a 10litre beer on tap next to my mouth
<elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, be nice to the brit, i may be able to extract valuable jono blackmailing material from him.
<popey> :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, aw ... i was going to have fun :(
<Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
<popey> Well, you *could* but you need to wait until Ubuntu-UK loco is approved and I get Ubuntu membership
<popey> then I'll happily dish the dirt
<Kamping_Kaiser> popey, you coming to LCA?
<popey> LCA? Wossat?
<hantu> linux conference australia
<hantu> you goin, K?
<elkbuntu> Linux.conf.au
<popey> Unlikely
<elkbuntu> popey, hitch a ride in jono or scott's luggage!
<Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, course
<popey> heh
<hantu> ah, i might have to bring my shotgun then.
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'll be broke when i get home, but if im hopeful it will be worth it
<popey> now, if there was someone to stalk, Scott would be the one
<hantu> i'm still deciding :\
<praetorian> cool
<praetorian> thanks
<Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, your running outta time arnt you? :o
<hantu> i have to move, around 20-ish january
<hantu> i know :(
<elkbuntu> aww, scott's harmless
<popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/LinuxWorldExpo2006/DSC02544 Scott using *my* laptop
<popey> *swooon*
<praetorian> oh ... another scott? damn
<popey> Scott James Remnant
<popey> sorry
<elkbuntu> ok, quit the fanboiing
<praetorian> im cooler, promise
<popey> *The* Scott James Remnant
<elkbuntu> yupyup
<elkbuntu> met him at UDS :)
<popey> he is genuine nice guy
<elkbuntu> very much so
<hantu> i'll have to decide by the end of this week, K :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> SJR used to have really cool commit messages
<Kamping_Kaiser> tehy suddenly stopped in dapper devel :(
<elkbuntu> so anyway mr popey, what brings you here?
<elkbuntu> you're not one of them compulsive channel joiners, are you?
<elkbuntu> In #ubuntu-classroom
<elkbuntu> Dec 01 02:18:08 <elkbuntu> For example, the Australian team is "Ubuntu-au". "au" is the ISO code for Australia.
<elkbuntu> In #ubuntu-au
<elkbuntu> Dec 01 02:18:23 * popey (n=alan@bishop.popey.com) has joined #ubuntu-au
<elkbuntu> Dec 01 02:18:32 <popey> Greetings from ubuntu-uk!
<popey> haha
<popey> I have been trying to cut down on the channel joining malarkey
<popey> now down to 47
<elkbuntu> heheh
<elkbuntu> i cut down channels then find new ones
<popey> that's the problem
<popey> ah, so the reason I am here..
<elkbuntu> down to 19 on freenode now
<popey> ..I am in ubuntu-uk of course, and we see Ubuntu-AU as one of the other fairly busy, well organised LoCo teams
<elkbuntu> yuppers
<popey> so thought I'd idle in here and steal your stuff
<popey> so to speak
<elkbuntu> hmm... sounds fair...
<popey> We are going for approval, and I have personally put myself up for membership
<popey> just waiting for the community council to do their thang
* elkbuntu waits for popey to notice.
* popey wonders what he should notice
* praetorian notices
<praetorian> nice rack!
<praetorian> is that a p4?
* popey notices
<praetorian> :>
<elkbuntu> lol
<siccness> big sicc yawns
<elkbuntu> anyway peoples, im off to the land of nod. g'nite
<praetorian> thats right next to my place!
<hantu> night elk
<hantu> er
<MotherLUG> Morning All
<merlin-linux> hiya MotherLUG
<MotherLUG> hey merlin-linux
<merlin-linux> can't you sleep too
<hantu> uh
<hantu> i need to sleep too =\
<hantu> got to pick up a friend at the airport.
<MotherLUG> merlin-linux, no. I need to sleep, but it's been a busy day and winding down is taking a while
* hantu plans his osdc.
<merlin-linux> MotherLUG: oh, i have had a bit of a bad weekend, as i have quit smoking and gone cold turkey
<MotherLUG> merlin-linux, I wish you luck
<merlin-linux> i getting there slowly just have to get over the fight of the cravings
<merlin-linux> in couple weeks i should be fine
<MotherLUG> everytime you have a craving have a big glass of water
<MotherLUG> it works well
<merlin-linux> i on my 3rd packet of barley sugar lollies
<MotherLUG> lol
<MotherLUG> hey look, I quit smoking and all my teeth rotted
<merlin-linux> and i going to learn how to code aswell, to keep the finger active
<merlin-linux> hehe
<MotherLUG> good thinking
<MotherLUG> mostly it is about breaking the habits
<merlin-linux> yeah
<merlin-linux> for me it ~14 year habbit
<MotherLUG> what?
<merlin-linux> smoking
<MotherLUG> well I guess you are odler than what I thought
<MotherLUG> older
<merlin-linux> i am 29
<MotherLUG> I'm glad of that
<MotherLUG> what age I had you at would mean you started wmoking at 5
<MotherLUG> Mmmm scary when I think back
<MotherLUG> it's a 22 year habit for me
<siccness> MotherLUG: yeah funny that
<siccness> I've been smoking for 5 or so years and mine are all rotted
<siccness> (lost one front tooth, about to lose another)
<siccness> 4 root canals
<merlin-linux> MotherLUG: damn that a young age for anyone to start smoking
<siccness> about 50 fillings
<siccness> 2 chipped teeth
<MotherLUG> jeeez siccness , what have you been doing
<siccness> when your parents tell you to brush your teeth
<siccness> just fuckin do it
<siccness> it's that simple :|
<merlin-linux> siccness: that sounds like you not brush your teeth
<MotherLUG> lol
<siccness> But i've learnt from it
<siccness> so I don't care.
<siccness> plus, being able to scare the shit out of people by taking the false tooth out
<siccness> man you get some great reactions from that
<merlin-linux> siccness: buy a set of dentchers and be done with it
<MotherLUG> you know what one of the coolest things I have had to do is
<MotherLUG> remove and insert a residents glass eye every shift
<siccness> (oh and for those who ever have to have a tooth extraction, dont be scared, painless) :)
<siccness> glass eye? eeeewwwk
<MotherLUG> no siccness , it is really interesting
<siccness> Heh
<siccness> Does it hurt them?
<MotherLUG> not if you do it correctly
<MotherLUG> and the eye socket toughens up after a while
<merlin-linux> siccness: you just use a vacum cleaner
<siccness> eww ;P
<merlin-linux> j/k
<siccness> i think the worst thing I'd hate to see is a tumar
<MotherLUG> merlin-linux, we are talking removing a glass eye, not a BJ
<siccness> or some form of cancer
<merlin-linux> friend of mine at school had a glass eye
<merlin-linux> and he used to take his glass eye out and put it on the desk
<siccness> WTF
<siccness> Can't they leave it in?
<MotherLUG> siccness, cancer is not a bad sight. But let me tell you gangrene is and it's a smell you will never in your life forget
<merlin-linux> test time was the funniest, he'd put his eye near your test paper and pretend he was cheating
<siccness> MotherLUG: is it true that smoking can cause it?
<MotherLUG> siccness, no. just like false teeth they need to be removed at night
<siccness> wah?
<siccness> oh the eyeball thing
<MotherLUG> siccness, ?cause gangrene?
<siccness> yeah
<MotherLUG> yep
<siccness> like are gangrene infected people mostly smokres?
<MotherLUG> smoking incresases the pressure in your ateries and reduces the venous blood flow. If the body part doesn't get enough fresh oxygenated blood it dies
<MotherLUG> not only smokers
<MotherLUG> diabetics
<MotherLUG> people that suffer heart disease
<MotherLUG> anyone with reduced circulation is at risk
<siccness> ok well what do you do about reflux?
<MotherLUG> get off the grog
<siccness> i cant walk more than 100m without a bottle of water
<MotherLUG> get off the fatty and sugary food
<MotherLUG> give up smoking
<siccness> and ive had it since birth
<MotherLUG> kidding?
<siccness> nope
<MotherLUG> then shoot your fucking GP
<siccness> well i had a hernia op when i was a young one
<siccness> that stopped a bit of it
<siccness> (well a lot of it)
<siccness> but i still have it
<MotherLUG> what sort of hernia was it. Umbilical?
<siccness> no idea
<siccness> it was when i was about 2months old
<siccness> anyways, good chattin with you MotherLUG. G'night!
<MotherLUG> sorry looking up a word
<MotherLUG> same here siccness , Night
<merlin-linux> night to you both
<MotherLUG> merlin-linux, are you off too
<MotherLUG> Night
<merlin-linux> no i thought you and and siccness was
<MotherLUG> well, I am now
<Rothbuntu> anyone in adelaide want a job in a call center for $15 an hour doing xp support
<Rothbuntu> please .... anyone...... HELP ME
* Rothbuntu sobs in the corner
<bokey> anyone know Rothbuntu personally ?
<bokey> i need this xp job.
<bokey> xp support job.
<bokey> contact me if anyone know about Rothbuntu. thanks.
* bokey is away: ooops! away for now.
<onefang> Away I say, away with ye.
<adhoc> lucychili: ping
<lucychili> prank
<adhoc> pah!
<siccness> morning all
<hysterio> morning
<MotherLUG> Morning
<adhoc> hey MotherLUG
<adhoc> ho hysterio
* adhoc pokes siccness
*** _greenie_ is now known as _greenie
<siccness> hey adhoc
<siccness> I think I might head off to TAFE in a couple of minutes. Complete this group assignment and do a bit of revision.
<hantu> ahoy siccness :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> aahhhhwhwhoooo. i just walked hundredds of metres!
* Kamping_Kaiser curses cars

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