<cellofellow> to each his own. scite's for program code really, bluefish for html, css, php, that's what I do.

<cellofellow> and nvu for wysiwyg html.

<Surghi> no wysiwyg for me

<Math^> to bad nvu doesnt know php

<cellofellow> plus I like nvu's ftp-based site manager. It'll do other protocols too.

<cellofellow> Well, I guess we have to wait a bit for that.

<Math^> uhu

<Math^> I use midnight commander for the ftp :P

<MattJ> I use scite for HTML/CSS/PHP/Lua/C/C++ :)

<MattJ> Oh, and Bash

<cellofellow> :)

<Math^> bash?

<cellofellow> shell scripts

<Math^> ooh

<Math^> like batch-files in dos?

<MattJ> Yup

<Math^> ah ok

<cellofellow> only better

<Math^> yes ofcourse!

<Math^> :D

<MattJ> 100x better :)

<Math^> 1000000000000x better

<MattJ> You can do anything in bash

<Math^> lol

<cellofellow> 200% better.

* cellofellow wonders what tcsh scripting is like.

<Math^> cellofellow,

<Math^> how u do that?

<Math^> with *

<cellofellow> /me the words

<Math^> ' the think message'

* Math^ balablabla

<Math^> oooh

<Math^> ok :D

* cellofellow runs around in circles

<Math^> lol

<Math^> cos?

<cellofellow> cos? I don't know what you mean?

<Math^> sorry

<Math^> becouse?

<Math^> you run around in circles

<Math^> I want to know why

<Math^> :P

<cellofellow> no idea. I didn't really, it was just a demo of /me

<Math^> hehe, i know

* cellofellow slaps Math^

<Math^> :P

<Math^> cellofellow, u use mIRC, lol

<cellofellow> xchat right now, usually irssi.

<Math^> irssi also nice?

<cellofellow> I like it.

<Math^> ah yes

<Math^> with time b4 names I see

<Math^> thats nice

<Math^> there is a great script for mIRC

<Math^> no name script

<Math^> but its all windows I gues

<Math^> I use it in windows

<flasher222> i have a canon bjc-4400 printer. can anyone help me set it up with my xubuntu?

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<flasher222> hello

<Math^> hi

<Math^> flasher222, sorry cant help u :X

<flasher222> does anybody here have a printer set up with their xubuntu?

<Commander-Crowe> no

<Math^> not yet

<Math^> going to sleep

<Math^> nn all

<Math^> :)

<Qew> flasher222: can you access cups by entering http://localhost:631 in a browser of your choice? That should get you to a page where you can configure your printer.

<Qew> one thing that Xubuntu needs is better printer support. I think you can install the Gnome printer manager, which is a bit more user friendly than the cups page. Can't remember the package name, but maybe someone here can do so.

<flasher222> Qew: do i need to plug in printer to my computer first?

<Qew> oh, thought you already did that. USB printer?

<flasher222> qew, parallel port

<Qew> then you'll have to shut down your computer, plug in the printer and restart it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129105 seems promising, though. Mind you, I'm finding that it's a problem printer to set up. :(

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<vidd> what i miss?

* maxamillion is still coding .... the chan has been quiet

<Commander> hey all

<Commander> anyone know how to move to another channel without closing this one in bitchX?

<maxamillion> j0

<maxamillion> Commander: ctrl+x

<Commander> or the same in weechat?

<Commander> haha

<Commander> nice

<Commander> thanks

<maxamillion> Commander: you might want to look into irssi because moving channels in bitchx still streams the conversations in the others you are a part of, just changes what you are actually typing in

*** Commander is now known as Commander-Crowe

<Commander-Crowe> clear

<Commander-Crowe> oops

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> there we go

* phlasphy wonders how much attention cellofellowis trying to attract

<Commander-Crowe> hey

<somerville32> Hi :)

<Commander-Crowe> I got the nvidia driver from the nvidia sit...and it says it can't find an avalible nvidia kernel

<Commander-Crowe> what do I need to download?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> build-essential, so it can build an appropriate kernel module.

<vidd> anyone know if it is possible to change beryl so the desktops flip up/down rather then left/right?

<Commander-Crowe> it says newest version already installed

<Commander-Crowe> erm

<PuMpErNiCkLe> So what's the problem?

<Commander-Crowe> PuMpErNiCkLe it jsut can't seem to find a nvidia kernel to use

<Commander-Crowe> It might be that I have nvidia-glx installed

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Are you telling the installer to search nvidia's site for an appropriate kernel module?

<Commander-Crowe> yes

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Don't.

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> I still get the error

<Commander-Crowe> hrm

<phlasphy> i dont think my screen works properly?

<Commander-Crowe> eh?

<phlasphy> i cannot get capslock on my keyboard in CLI?

<phlasphy> hang on

<Commander-Crowe> how do I remove a dir

<Commander-Crowe> like rmdir doesn't work

<Commander-Crowe> its not an empty dir

<Qew> well, if you're very, very careful, you can use rm -rf dir

<Qew> but make sure you point to the right directory...

<Qew> and check again and again... especially if sudo ;)

<PuMpErNiCkLe> If you're woried about it, ditch the -f option. If you're really woried, add -i.

<Qew> another thing might be to install Midnight Commander and do it via that

<PuMpErNiCkLe> s/woried/worried/g

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<phlasphy> how do i logout when there is stopped jobs?

<Commander-Crowe> got it

<somerville32> phlasphy: Try logout twice in a rw

<somerville32> *row

<phlasphy> thanks

<somerville32> Or stop the jobs

<phlasphy> when i log back in will they be gone?

<Commander-Crowe> heh

<somerville32> It'll kill the stopped jobs when you logout

<phlasphy> thanks

<phlasphy> i dont think screen likes me

<phlasphy> are there any alternatives to screen

<JKnife> yeah.. X11

<JKnife> screen is a console based window manager... that is it..

<maxamillion> phlasphy: screen doesn't like Terminal's default key bindings

<maxamillion> i know that much

<JKnife> which is one reason i use URxvt XD

<vidd> is there a simple way to import xfce's keyboard shortcuts into beryl?

<JKnife> vidd: beryl is evil... :)

<maxamillion> vidd: not a clue

<vidd> JKnife, so am I XD

<maxamillion> lol

<JKnife> vidd: good point

<vidd> JKnife, why you say beryl is evil?

* JKnife shrugs

<vidd> you cant get it to work?

<JKnife> -_-

<JKnife> vidd: you are funny!!!

<vidd> yeah....but looks arnt everything

<JKnife> i think i was one of the first people to get compiz working in Xubuntu...

<vidd> yeah? and what about beryl?

<maxamillion> JKnife: probably one of the first that isn't part of the beryl project development team

<JKnife> beryl is easier to set up then compiz..

<vidd> then it is not evil

<JKnife> maxamillion: i think they use Ubuntu and not Xubuntu XD

<maxamillion> JKnife: no, there was xfce documentation

<JKnife> ohh for beryl..

<JKnife> i was talking one of the first for compiz.. not beryl

<JKnife> i wasn't using *buntu when Quinn released beryl

<maxamillion> ohhh, yeah... probably

<JKnife> =\ gah.. it was a pain to setup also

<maxamillion> compiz+xfce ... you were one of the _very_ fee

<maxamillion> few*

<JKnife> o.O

<JKnife> umm was mirf quit message to us?

<Commander-Crowe> hey

<Commander-Crowe> is there a commandline media player?

<JKnife> !mpd

<ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 392 kB

<kalikiana> Hi, anybody here who wanna play pioneers?

<somerville32> pioneers?

<kalikiana> yep, the 'settlers' clone

<somerville32> k

<JKnife> not really =\

<somerville32> I'll play

<maxamillion> need food ... bbl

<kalikiana> any preferences for the map?

<somerville32> never played it before

<somerville32> so no

<kalikiana> so we try CentralEurope? I never played that one

<somerville32> Sure thing

<kalikiana> Only drawback: I found only you to play, so it'll be bots I guess

<somerville32> hehe

<somerville32> Are you hosting?

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<kalikiana> I'll try

<kalikiana> ;)

<kalikiana> You should be able to see me in the list

<somerville32> Cannot resolve kalikiana port 5556: Name or service not known

<somerville32> haha

<somerville32> Whats your ip address?

<JKnife> 127.0.0.1

<JKnife> or 192.168.2.2

<JKnife> XD

<somerville32> You're behind a NAT

<somerville32> I'll host

<kalikiana> damn, i got that too; 87.78.33.183

<Commander-Crowe> hahaha

<somerville32> Connect to me

<somerville32> You should see me in the list

<JKnife> !language | kalikiana

<ubotu> kalikiana: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<JKnife> XD

<somerville32> !abuse | JKnife

<somerville32> :P

<ubotu> JKnife: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines

<somerville32> haha

* kalikiana pokes JKnife

<JKnife> somerville32: :(

<somerville32> Kalikiana: Coming?

<kalikiana> it's serenity i assume?

<kalikiana> it's connecting

<somerville32> k

<somerville32> Look at the message box

<somerville32> Any errors?

<somerville32> Or is it connecting?

<kalikiana> it still says 'connecting to ...adelphia.net...'

<kalikiana> now i'm out

<JKnife> find a pub server to play on -_-

<somerville32> They all say I have too old of a version :(

<kalikiana> somerville32: i'll try on game-host.org

<kalikiana> i have 0.10.2

* JKnife blames dapper

<kalikiana> i recompiled the game to get rid of the gnome-libs

<kalikiana> somerville32: so can you join existing games? we might take over an existing one then

<somerville32> haha

<somerville32> Sorry, I already got busy with something else

<somerville32> :]

<kalikiana> So you still wanna play or not? Never mind if not.

<kalikiana> :P

<Commander-Crowe> you sleep a lot if your depressed right?

<JKnife> yep

<Commander-Crowe> hrm

<Commander-Crowe> maybe I am depressed

<Commander-Crowe> how do I tell?

<JKnife> so see a docter...

<Commander-Crowe> I did

<crimsun> do you constantly spew offtopic stuff into a general support channel instead of using the appropriate offtopic channel? :)

<Commander-Crowe> he said I wasn't depressed

<JKnife> then you are not

<Commander-Crowe> hahaha

<JKnife> crimsun: ALWAYS!

<JKnife> would you rather us use -devel?

<Commander-Crowe> My parents want a second opinion

<crimsun> then I'd say you're 1) as depressed as everyone else, 2) still off-topic

<Commander-Crowe> hahah

<crimsun> you're in socal, no?

<crimsun> no reason you'd be experiencing any seasonal depression symptoms--at least not trivially

<JKnife> Commander-Crowe: what type of docter did you see?

<crimsun> in any case, consider moving to antarctica, where every person is depressed.

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> I live in norcal

<crimsun> (oh, well, san jose isn't socal)

<Commander-Crowe> not socal

<Commander-Crowe> !netpbm

<ubotu> netpbm: Graphics conversion tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2:10.0-10.1 (edgy), package size 1129 kB, installed size 4028 kB

<Commander-Crowe> no

<Commander-Crowe> its central ornorth

<Commander-Crowe> or north*

<Commander-Crowe> crimsun where are you from?

<crimsun> somewhere over the rainbow.

<Commander-Crowe> ah...faggot land

<JKnife> Commander-Crowe: do a ctcp ping on him then run a dns lookup

<phlasphy> JKnife: on who ?

<Commander-Crowe> he's filtered

<crimsun> (it's not that difficult to find out. I have an LP page.)

<JKnife> -_- people should really read what is being said

<JKnife> :)

<JKnife> that works too.. and is much nicer

<crimsun> not to mention my /whois info lists my name and my GPG pubkey id.

<Commander-Crowe> "somewhere...over the rainbow...is faggot land...where all those with aids go...and I don't know why but they cry"

<JKnife> haha

<Commander-Crowe> (0xC88ABDA3)

<crimsun> I could just as easily have typed "lincoln, nebraska"

<Commander-Crowe> whats that?

<JKnife> his gpg pub key maybe?

<Commander-Crowe> I have no clue whata gpg pub key is

<JKnife> it is an encryption scheme...

<Commander-Crowe> pub 1024D/C88ABDA3 2003/06/23 Dan Chen (Yahoo) <crimsunkg@yahoo.com>

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<Commander-Crowe> real encrypted

<JKnife> -_-

<JKnife> you use that key to encrypt messages only he can decrypt with his private gpg key

<Commander-Crowe> or you could jsut use google

<Commander-Crowe> just*

<JKnife> huh?

<Commander-Crowe> crimsun what school do you go to?

<Commander-Crowe> oh crap

<Commander-Crowe> I think I just found some emails crimsun

<JKnife> o.O

<Commander-Crowe> what me to give you the link?

<Commander-Crowe> who's Jo Tate?

<crimsun> an rPath employee

<Commander-Crowe> wow

<Commander-Crowe> I've run across a bunch of emails

<crimsun> I have a rather large google footprint (unfortunately)

<crimsun> ah well, at least I tore down the blogs before any archivers got to them

<crimsun> </emo>

<JKnife> hehe

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<JKnife> i have also have a big google footprint... BUT you have to search for the right thing

<Commander-Crowe> its impossible to find me with google

<Commander-Crowe> how do I start mpd?

*** max_foodz0r is now known as maxamillion

<Commander-Crowe> I'll play someone at pioneers

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<malnilion> How does one delete a panel they accidentally create in xfce?

<JKnife> right click on a panel and goto "Customize Panel"

<JKnife> then select the panel created in the drop down box and click the [-] button

<malnilion> Ah, thanks :)

<cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: pioneers? I'll play.

<Commander-Crowe> how do I set xfwm4 to be the defualt session type instead of enlighenment

<kalikiana> I set it in gdm

<crimsun> which session manager are you using?

<crimsun> ah, that Session

<Commander-Crowe> well

<Commander-Crowe> I'm in CLI right now

<Commander-Crowe> but if I do

<Commander-Crowe> "startx

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: you use startx?

<Commander-Crowe> it just brings up enlightenment

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: then its in .xinitrc in your home dir

<Commander-Crowe> yes

<maxamillion> nano .xinitrc

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<maxamillion> _should_ give you a file with something about exec /path/to/enlightenment

<Commander-Crowe> yeah it does

<Commander-Crowe> what do I set it to?

<maxamillion> just change it to "exec /path/to/xfce4startup" (or what ever that thing is called)... lemme check

<maxamillion> startxfce4

<maxamillion> that's what it is

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<maxamillion> :)

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> got it

<Commander-Crowe> now

<Commander-Crowe> I want to run mpd

<Commander-Crowe> !mpd

<ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 392 kB

<Commander-Crowe> how?

<maxamillion> never touched mpd :/

<cellofellow> I like mp3blaster and screen

<Commander-Crowe> erm

<maxamillion> but i do remember the startx stuff from fluxbox back in my slack days

<gavinLCD> Hi, I'm using the xubuntu core here and for some reason I can't log in all of a sudden.

<gavinLCD> I thought it might have been a change I made to the xorg.conf file, so I undid it, but I still can't log in.

<gavinLCD> It just seems to give up loading X after I enter my login details, and it brings me back to the prompt ad infinitum. Anybody know what the problem could be?

<maxamillion> gavinLCD: wait ... you can't log into gdm but you can to the command line?

<gavinLCD> Since I'm stuck at the login dialog, I can't get to the console either. I'm using a minimalist login screen without all the extra fluff.

<gavinLCD> I'm on the LiveCD now.

<cellofellow> What's a really good Palm hotsync system? It needs to connect to an old serial palm. Also, the palm is plugged in but I don't know how to tell if the system can detect it.

<PuMpErNiCkLe> You don't have to get past the login screen to get a console. Alt + ctrl + f{1-6} will take you to one.

<PuMpErNiCkLe> (F7 is reserved for the GUI by default.)

<AcidBurn> in xubuntu, is there a option to have what you select (file or doc..etc) to be deleted right there, instead of being move to the trash can then empty.. using a right click

<cellofellow> AcidBurn: select it, then shift+del

<maxamillion> gavinLCD: have you tried doing ctrl+alt+F2 at the gui login screen to see if it takes you to a command line login?

<AcidBurn> ok,in kubuntu all I had to do, was right click after turn on the option..

<cellofellow> I don't know how.

<maxamillion> AcidBurn: no, i don't think so ... and i think that was done on purpose because of the complaints from dapper where things just got deleted

<maxamillion> AcidBurn: i could be wrong though, so don't quote me on it

<gavinLCD> maxamillion: I didn't know you could do that : ). Ok that helps thanks.

<maxamillion> gavinLCD: np :)

<AcidBurn> it beets copying the files, to the trash, then deleting...

<AcidBurn> 8-)

<cellofellow> especially when the trash and the file are on different filesystems.

<cellofellow> try trashing something that's in an sshfs or smbfs.

<maxamillion> not for normal users who are used to trash cans in _every_ other environment they are used to (DE, not WM)

<cellofellow> I like the trash, it's just if the file is on a different hard drive or a remote filesystem, it takes FOREVER.

<cellofellow> how do I set up jpilot?

<hamburger_xie> i'm trying to upgrade the default build-in gaim in xubuntu. i've downloaded the package "gaim_2.0.0+beta5-3_i386.deb". when i tried "sudo dpkg -i gaim_2.0.0+beta5-3_i386.deb", it reported dependency error. what i could do to fix it up?

<maxamillion> hamburger_xie: what dependency isn't met? ... find that, get the newer version of _that_ package and continue

<hamburger_xie> gee...it must take a while to find all those package. any easier way?

<maxamillion> nope, this is why we love apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic

<maxamillion> they do that for us :)

<hamburger_xie> apt-get won't do it for me, because i didn't enable testing and unstable repos

<QUEEN> all I need help fixing my pc and i am quite suicidal over this and ppl wont help and r being abusive in the other chats

<cellofellow> QUEEN: so, what's the problem?

<maxamillion> hamburger_xie: then enable them

<maxamillion> !ask

<ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)

<QUEEN> if anyone wants to try and help me fix this issue it would be cool I have told ppl over and over that my cd drive is not recognizing when I insert a balnk CD to make fun they ask me the same damn thing over and over :(

<maxamillion> QUEEN: why you inserting a blank cd?

<QUEEN> im so upset i cant even type and I got banned from the kubuntu and ubuntu chat as a troll when they upset me and i freaked out

<QUEEN> so that I can burn files to disk

<QUEEN> I see ppl here just wanna make fun too so I will shut up

<hamburger_xie> ye,ye, i'm doing it

<QUEEN> serious asking me why i am inserting a blank cd was just making fun :(

<boris55> are you drunk?

<QUEEN> but it is ok cuz I am gonna hurt myself over this and thank all of u for not helping

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> i think he is on something

<QUEEN> no I have ask for fucking help because my god damn cd burner will not work right

<QUEEN> and u ass wipes take it on yourself to make fun

<somerville32> !language

<ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<somerville32> QUEEN: Whats the problem?

<QUEEN> I have told ppl what the problem is

<cellofellow> what is the standard /dev files for serial ports?

<phlasphy> QUEEN: i would have no idea how to do it i am a noob myself

<QUEEN> u r asking again to make fun

<somerville32> QUEEN: I assure you that I have no intentions to make fun of you.

<QUEEN> qwell once again the cd burner is not recognizing when I insert a blank CD

<cellofellow> QUEEN: maybe he didn't hear before. Calm down a little none of us our out to get you.

<QUEEN> one of the jerks on here had the nerve to ak whyt i felt the need to insert a blank CD

<somerville32> What program are you using to try and burn the cd?

<phlasphy> QUEEN: chill

<phlasphy> k3b always works for me

<QUEEN> listen ppl either get me unbanned from the other 2 chats and help me with this or i am gonna hang myself

<QUEEN> none of them are working no one is lsitening

<somerville32> QUEEN: Do you have serious intentions about harming yourself?

<QUEEN> I give up im typing and none of u r listening

<somerville32> I'm here to listen Queen.

<boris55> do you have any friends who can burn a cd for you?

<QUEEN> listen get me unbanned from the other chats and get ppl to be serious and offer to help and I will calm down

<somerville32> Queen: We can work through this together.

<somerville32> Queen: What channels are you banned from?

<QUEEN> what I have been put through on here is not right

<maxamillion> QUEEN: do you have gnomebaker installed?

<maxamillion> QUEEN: that will be step 1, getting the burning software

<QUEEN> kubuintu they made it so I cant chat but can read what is said and they called me a troll and ubuntu banned me all together after they said i was making up the issue about the cd burner

<QUEEN> yes I have that

<maxamillion> QUEEN: ok, and it functions and you can get your files put together and ready for burning right?

<QUEEN> yes but no cd burning program recognizes when i insert a cd

<QUEEN> i keep saying this over and over and no one is listening :(

<phlasphy> QUEEN: you can play a audio cd right?

<QUEEN> yes

<phlasphy> ok

<maxamillion> QUEEN: i know, i have read you write that 10 times, i am taking this step by step so i can help

<somerville32> Queen: What operating system are you using?

<cellofellow> maybe the cd burning app is looking at the wrong /dev/ file.

<QUEEN> the ONLY issue i have is it wont see when i insert a blank CD

<QUEEN> im gonna go cuz no one is listening

<phlasphy> we are

<maxamillion> QUEEN: how many cd-rom drives do you have?

<QUEEN> if any of u want my pc when im dead I will tell yu who to contact :(

<QUEEN> just1

<Malnilion> Anybody know a good command line audio player?

<AcidBurn> moc

<QUEEN> has anyone got me unbanned from the other chats yet?

<somerville32> Queen: Hold on, I'm working on it.

<maxamillion> !mpd

<ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 392 kB

<maxamillion> !moc

<ubotu> moc: ncurses based console audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 548 kB

<somerville32> Queen: Maybe we can try and troubleshoot through your problem?

<boris55> queen, are you using a recorable cd?

<QUEEN> its too late i give up

<QUEEN> yes

<QUEEN> no im so stupid i would not use a cdr

<somerville32> Queen: Do you have serious intentions to harm yourself?

<QUEEN> listen if ppl really care get me unbanned from the other chats and help me fix this

<QUEEN> and make sure no one else is treated like i have been cuz it sucks

<somerville32> Queen: I think you're misinterpreting people's intentions.

<somerville32> People just want to help you

<somerville32> So they are asking all kinds of questions to help find the problem

<QUEEN> no ppl banned me and said i was a god damn troll and ppl have made fun of me

<QUEEN> and ppl r asking the same thing over and over

<somerville32> They aren't insulting your intelligence

<LNXempire> QUEEN: haven't you hanged yourself yet?

<somerville32> And they ask the same things because they are trying to work through the issue with you

<QUEEN> not different questions from different ppl it is the same ppl asking 1 thing over and over as if they ask it enough i will give a different answer

<cellofellow> can anyone tell me what these jpilot errors mean?

<cellofellow> dlp_ReadSysInfo error

<cellofellow> Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_PI_CONNECT

<maxamillion> LNXempire: please don't bring that into our channel

<QUEEN> LNXempire was asking to see me hang myself on cam for god sakes and just ask me havent u hanged yourself yet

<LNXempire> ROFL

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Well, you did bring the topic up...

<cellofellow> LNXempire is the one that needs banned then I say.

<QUEEN> ppl have treated me awful both here and the forum and unless it changes i will do soemthing :(

<frogzoo> QUEEN: how you gonna post it to youtube ?

<maxamillion> QUEEN: CALM DOWN!!!!!! we can work through this if you will slow down, listen to us and we will listen to you

<phlasphy> LNXempire: it would be havent hung yourself yet

<QUEEN> well one more person says something rude or encourages me to hurt myself i will im sick of this

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, your behaviour is not welcome here. emotional blackmail will not work.

<AcidBurn> here here

<LNXempire> ok I'll shut up.

<LNXempire> I ain't no rascal troublemaker

<QUEEN> its not emotional blckmail gbut i do have feelings and i have the right to not be abused

<phlasphy> lol LNXempire

<somerville32> Queen: We're here to help. :)

<AcidBurn> lets talk about the problem, not the state of mind

<PuMpErNiCkLe> QUEEN: It is emotional blackmail, since you're threatening to hang yourself if we don't help. Noobiness like that is not cool.

<QUEEN> well one more person is rude or accuses me of emotional balck mail i will hurt myself bad

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, it is emotional blackmail. if simply failing to burn a cd is causing you this much pain, then you need to seek professional help. i am saying this to help you.

<QUEEN> leave me alone if u want to help-

<boris55> I go unbanned from #drunkpeople

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, i believe that leaving you alone is what caused your distress to begin with

<QUEEN> leave me alone elkbuntu

<LNXempire> QUEEN: you got serious issues, that's not normal behaviour. Ever since on irc is the first time I've seen this

<phlasphy> hang on if this is an family channel we do not need some drunk in here giving kids ideas

<QUEEN> lreafve me alone

<QUEEN> or i will hang myself i swear it

<QUEEN> im egging u to to leave me alone

<QUEEN> all I want is help fixing my computer

<QUEEN> instead i get abuse and ppl encouraging me to hurt myself

<frogzoo> QUEEN: best to stay chill dude, ubuntu is not a matter of life & death

<maxamillion> LNXempire: please be nice

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, nobody would have encouraged you if you had not threatened to

<AcidBurn> this is going to far ...........of the deep end

<cellofellow> ok ok ok. just take a deep breath and answer peoples questions about your cd-drive, and ignore everyone else.

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, tell me what the actual problem is and maybe we can work something out.

<somerville32> Queen: How abotu we try again tomorrow after everyone's had a chance to calm down, k?

<AcidBurn> manlog

<QUEEN> bo they say one morew word i will hang myself i got the blet around my neck already

<QUEEN> NO

<QUEEN> ppl help me now and actaully help me fix this or it is all over

<QUEEN> im so upset i cant even type :(

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, i just offered to. but. you need to tell me details first.

<JKnife> QUEEN: just order a cd for free...

<phlasphy> aww FFS so much for a family friendly channel lets teach kids bad examples dont help him or every1 will pretend to hang themselves

<QUEEN> I have told u i insert a blank cd and the cd drive does not notice there is one there nor does any burning program

<JKnife> it isn't hard and it is 100% free... shipit.ubuntu.com

<Commander-Crowe> I wish xubuntu had shipit

<QUEEN> I have said trhat over and over

<elkbuntu> QUEEN, would you like me to post you a cd?

<QUEEN> NO

<JKnife> if you are having problems burning the cd.. just order one..

<QUEEN> elk dont talk to me please

<cellofellow> QUEEN: ok, ok, we know, but we have to have some details or else we don't know how to fix it.

<QUEEN> I need to burn other stuff no one is listening

<JKnife> QUEEN: what OS are you running now?

<somerville32> Seveas: ping

<QUEEN> god damn it ijm running ubuntu i have said over and over

<phlasphy> QUEEN: if i was an op you would have been out of here the moment you threatened to hang your self

<QUEEN> u ppl r doing this to uset me

<phlasphy> fuck you

<QUEEN> well ur not an op

<somerville32> !ops

<ubotu> Help! janimo, Gloubiboulga, crimsun, Nalioth, Seveas, gnomefreak, markuman or Harti

<phlasphy> QUEEN: go and hang your self

<somerville32> Stop!

<Commander-Crowe> Irun sysinfo in terminal and i get this error

<QUEEN> all I ask for is help fixing this and all ppl r doing i making fun or being rude

<elkbuntu> phlasphy, stop that NOW

<Commander-Crowe> *** stack smashing detected ***: sysinfo terminated

<Commander-Crowe> Aborted (core dumped)

<maxamillion> phlasphy: stop, please ... just don't say anything

<nbjayme> hello, i am suffering from memory loss. what command line utility was it that you use to get information of a video file encoding (bitrates, etc.)

<phlasphy> fine

<nbjayme> ?

<maxamillion> phlasphy: thank you

<JKnife> QUEEN: ok.. so the cd is not being understood.. is there any error message to help us?

<phlasphy> QUEEN: have you tried a differant CD?

* maxamillion notes that QUEEN said the cd-rom will play audio cds

<QUEEN> yes I have

<phlasphy> ok

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN best bet is that your cd-rom drive is bad

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<QUEEN> no ther eis not it just will not read i am putting in a cd

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN I get this same problem

<phlasphy> QUEEN: go to #gentoo they are geniuses

<QUEEN> all i need is help fixing this because i took my cd drive out put in my friends windows machine and it works fine

<Commander-Crowe> I solve it by running this command

<QUEEN> but on ubuntu it dont

<Commander-Crowe> sudo mount -a

<QUEEN> im sorry im so upset over this

<Commander-Crowe> thats ok

* Commander-Crowe hands QUEEN a tissue

<QUEEN> no it aint ok but whatever lol

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> so is it still not working?

<JKnife> QUEEN: it is just a peice of hardware.. it is not worth getting this upset over

<QUEEN> well it is when u r disabland homebound

* phlasphy remembers when he could not get his HDD to read in linux a week later he opeed his case and saw it was unplugged :(

<QUEEN> well i tried that and it mistakenly saying my cdr is a cdrw

<Commander-Crowe> hahaha

<Commander-Crowe> its not a mistake

<Commander-Crowe> it just can't tell the difference

<QUEEN> well when i try to burn something it wont burn it tries to erase the file

<JKnife> let it do a quick erase on it..

<JKnife> it will not hurt

<QUEEN> actually it made it time out i had to cds try and do that earlier after i reloaded them like 20 tiomes it finally read them as being there

<LNXempire> is aMule a different network than Frostwire?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> LNXempire: yeah

<Commander-Crowe> LNXempire I think so

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN it might be that you've ruined the disc trying to put something on it

<QUEEN> could be

<PuMpErNiCkLe> LNXempire: aMule is for the edonkey network, Frostwire is for the Gnutella network.

<Commander-Crowe> might've been in the middle of a process and you stopped it

<phlasphy> PuMpErNiCkLe: which is better

<LNXempire> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks, and aMule is a good client?

<QUEEN> but thanx for that tip why couldnt ppl have told me that from the get go?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> phlasphy: I don't use either, so I don't know.

<phlasphy> ok

<PuMpErNiCkLe> LNXempire: ditto

<phlasphy> QUEEN: i am sorry about before

<LNXempire> ok

<QUEEN> dont wrroy about it i was being an ass

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN because the right people weren't paying attention at that moment

<QUEEN> but whatever this is now reading my disk

<LNXempire> please another thing what port do I have to configure Amarok postgres to work?

<QUEEN> it is wicked cool thanks

<LNXempire> locahost or something ?

<QUEEN> will i have to put this in everytime i go to burn a disk?

<LNXempire> port 6000 or 6600

<Commander-Crowe> put what in?

<JKnife> QUEEN: if you promise to watch the language i will see if i can get you unbanned from #ubuntu and get voice back in #kubuntu ok?

<Commander-Crowe> mount -a?

<QUEEN> ok thats cool im a nice guy and im not insane but honestly what I needed to back up was bad importaint

<phlasphy> QUEEN: may i ask how old you are?

<QUEEN> yeah mount -a will i have to do it each time

* JKnife suggest he invests in a flash drive

<elkbuntu> he's been unbanned from ubuntu now that he's displayed he isnt just here to disrupt.

<maxamillion> thank you elkbuntu

<QUEEN> 33 and disabled im homebound and I switched from windows to ubuntu because i had a few online ppl stalking me and trying to make even my online life hell

<JKnife> ok.. can you get him voice back in #kubuntu?

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN I guess so...thats what I have to do...also if your just backing up the /home dir then I've written a program for that

<phlasphy> QUEEN: what are you mounting?

<JKnife> phlasphy: nothing

<phlasphy> why the need for mount -a

* JKnife shrugs

<JKnife> well i guess the auto mount is fubared..

<QUEEN> well i was backing up text files from usenet where one of the ppl stalking me admits she was doing it and bragging about it

<Commander-Crowe> phlasphy not sure..but it makes things work

<JKnife> QUEEN: what version of Ubuntu are you running?

<QUEEN> 6.06

<JKnife> uhmm

<QUEEN> 6.10 hangs on shutdown for me and i could not install jave

<QUEEN> java

<JKnife> "-a Mount all filesystems (of the given types) mentioned in fstab"

<JKnife> it sounds like an automount problem

<JKnife> anything on LP about it?

<phlasphy> LP?

<JKnife> launchpad

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> or Likin Park

<QUEEN> all so u know one of the ppl staling me i have enough info to finally get them kicked offline

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<JKnife> linkin*

<phlasphy> QUEEN: just dont try gentoo

<maxamillion> QUEEN: wait, why are passing out threats?

<maxamillion> QUEEN: we are helping

<QUEEN> no no no

<QUEEN> not directed aytt any of u

<maxamillion> ohhh ok

<phlasphy> stalking not staling

<maxamillion> QUEEN: :)

* maxamillion goes back to his coding

<QUEEN> when i was on windows I was staked pretty bad by a lady who thought because i am disabled i must be a pervert and worse

<JKnife> QUEEN: what you do is take these files to the local police depo. and press charges..

<QUEEN> well it is a state police issue she is in another state

<j1mc> hey, this may seem trivial, but my bootsplash screen isn't working.

<j1mc> it doesn't come up.

<JKnife> where are you in this little world?

<JKnife> j1mc: it boots?

<QUEEN> im in upstate NY and I am an a goraphobic and the internet is my link to the world

<JKnife> then it is not trivial XD

<QUEEN> agoraphobic

<JKnife> QUEEN: then you can get the FBI involved..

<JKnife> since she is outta state

<Commander-Crowe> hrm

<phlasphy> what is agoraphobic

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<QUEEN> i have been trying because this person made my life hell just because she could

<Commander-Crowe> how did you come to meet her?

<QUEEN> I have issues dealing with ppl

<Commander-Crowe> phlasphy google it

<phlasphy> ohh ok

<phlasphy> by net is slow from emerge

<QUEEN> I met her 7 years ago on webtv of all places way back in the day I had windows 98 and webtv lol

<j1mc> JKnife, sorry, i don't know how to send a pm w/o opening a new channel.

<JKnife> talk here

<j1mc> err tab

<j1mc> ok

<j1mc> but, yes, the pc boots

<JKnife> this is a help channel... so more then one person can help you

<JKnife> ok

<QUEEN> all I know is u ppl were quite cool tonight

<JKnife> do me a favor and nopaste your /boot/grub/menu.lst

<JKnife> !pastebin

<ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)

<j1mc> it boots, works fine . . . except the nifty ubuntu bootsplash doesn't come up.

<bigfuzzyjesus> hello world

* JKnife links bigfuzzyjesus to /dev/null

<JKnife> XD

<j1mc> will do, JKnife

<bigfuzzyjesus> @lart jknife

<bigfuzzyjesus> ugh

<JKnife> haha

<JKnife> :)

<bigfuzzyjesus> no ubugtu

<bigfuzzyjesus> :'(

<JKnife> Ubugtu: HI

<JKnife> he is here

* bigfuzzyjesus installs winME on JKnife's computer

<phlasphy> ROFL

<JKnife> NOOOOOO

* JKnife shoots him self

<JKnife> NO WinME!

<Commander-Crowe> HAHA

<QUEEN> LOL

<Commander-Crowe> thats horrible

<QUEEN> winMe is my idea of hell

<QUEEN> can I aks a dumb ?

<JKnife> ?

<phlasphy> question

<phlasphy> yeah

<j1mc> here's the link to my /boot/grub/menu.lst

<j1mc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35066/

<bigfuzzyjesus> hahahaha

<JKnife> j1mc: ok..

* JKnife looks

<QUEEN> which is better kubuntu or ubuntu and is it safe to run both or is there conflicts?

<JKnife> QUEEN: yuo can run both

<phlasphy> QUEEN: i think you mean KDE or GNOME

<JKnife> you*

<bigfuzzyjesus> all the ops in ubuntu-offtopic have something up their ass(es)

<QUEEN> sweet but when i run both i get a thing saying resolvconfl.... failed on bootup or does that matter?

<JKnife> !language | bigfuzzyjesus

<ubotu> bigfuzzyjesus: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<bigfuzzyjesus> keister?

<Commander-Crowe> um

<JKnife> j1mc: what version of Xubuntu?

<j1mc> JKnife, looks like i need to uncomment the default options line, no?

<Commander-Crowe> groan

<j1mc> i'm running edgy

<JKnife> no.. leave them there

<phlasphy> # them?

<JKnife> j1mc: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xubuntu-artwork-usplash'

<phlasphy> ohh ok

<JKnife> Ichthux?

<JKnife> gah! MORE FORKS!

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN I would recommend Xubuntu for its lightness but you should be able to run both Gone and KDE along with jsut about anything else

<QUEEN> cool

<phlasphy> XFCE FTW

<j1mc> JKnife, i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xubuntu-artwork-usplash . . . i'll go ahead and reboot and see if it works.

<JKnife> wai

<j1mc> ok . . .

<JKnife> did it regen the initrd?

<bigfuzzyjesus> i want a macbook

<j1mc> yessudo dpkg-reconfigure xubuntu-artwork-usplash

<j1mc> sorry . . .

<JKnife> ok..

<JKnife> try and reboot

<JKnife> see if it works

<j1mc> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic

<JKnife> ok

<j1mc> ok brb

<QUEEN> Commander I might give it a try :D I have heard it is lighter and can do the same things

* JKnife points and laughs at phlasphy

<JKnife> or Xubuntu_991

<phlasphy> lol

<JKnife> CLONES!

*** Xubuntu_991 is now known as phlasphy_

<phlasphy> are clones bad

<JKnife> they can be

<phlasphy> is 2 bad?

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN yeah if I need something from GNOME or KDE i can jsut steal it from synpatics

<JKnife> no.. unless you abuse them

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> you mean like talking to myself

<phlasphy> lol

<JKnife> or using them to try and avoid banns

<QUEEN> Commander i just wish they would make a decent messnger because i hate gaim because of no webcam and kopete is a bit bloated for my taste

<JKnife> j1mc: it work?

<j1mc> JKnife, no luck

<phlasphy> JKnife: i just turn my modem on and off and get a new nick

<JKnife> is usplash installed?

<j1mc> if it helps, i used the alternate install cd to build up xubuntu from a CLI, but usplash is installed.

* JKnife has no clue =\

<Commander-Crowe> QUEEN which client do you use (YIM, AIM, MSN)?

<j1mc> i did the same thing from my laptop, tho, and it gives me the usplash.

<QUEEN> I use all of them seems everyone i know uses more than 1 IM

<phlasphy> Commander-Crowe: what is a good messenger for CLI

<Commander-Crowe> I "think" there is one called nMSN

<Commander-Crowe> I don't know

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> phlasphy: centericq!!!!

<Commander-Crowe> I dont' use messanger in CLI

<JKnife> phlasphy: centericq!!!!

<JKnife> phlasphy: centericq!!!!

<JKnife> phlasphy: centericq!!!!

<JKnife> hi rob

<maxamillion> phlasphy: centericq without a doubt

<QUEEN> I have used amsn and it is decent

<Commander-Crowe> I use b*tchX and weechat-curses though

* JKnife bows to the all powerful freenode staff member

<Commander-Crowe> ah ok

<rob> hi JKnife

<QUEEN> could have nicer fonts but everything works :D

<j1mc> brb

<Commander-Crowe> I jsut use GAIM

<Commander-Crowe> just*

<phlasphy> btchX is that better than irssi?

<JKnife> Commander-Crowe: it is ok to say BitchX as it is a name of a program

<JKnife> phlasphy: depends

<phlasphy> ok

<maxamillion> phlasphy: no, bitchx is < irssi

* JKnife prefers IRSSI

* JKnife slaps maxamillion

<JKnife> it is IRSSI!

<QUEEN> all I am off to bed and if u dont mind I would love to chat here again u all seem nice and I swear to check all drama at the door

<maxamillion> no it _isn't_

<Commander-Crowe> irssi is what I'm gonna try next

<maxamillion> awwww

<maxamillion> jipt

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: irssi ftw

<JKnife> is to

<phlasphy> cya QUEEN

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> by QUEEN

<QUEEN> cyaz and thanx for all the help and sorry i was a total well u know what

<JKnife> QUEEN: if you are not on dialup you can leave the IRC client running

<phlasphy> QUEEN: how does some1 in a differant state stalk you ?

<JKnife> phlasphy: it is the interweb!

<somerville32> This channel is for support only

<phlasphy> ok

<somerville32> Please take offtopic discussion to #xubuntu-offtopic

<phlasphy> what there is a xubuntu-offtopic

<phlasphy> awesome i will be there later

<QUEEN> well I am off after i answer phlasphy

<phlasphy> ok

<QUEEN> the person was making my life hell and going after me and making it so I was miserable online long story but this person trashed me on usenet ruined a website I own and posted personal info I had stored on my pc I dont know if stalking is the right term but it got ugly

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> QUEEN got h4x3d! XD j/p

<phlasphy> QUEEN: you should have hired a hacker to screw her pc up lol

<JKnife> cDc!

<QUEEN> LOL if i knew one I would

<QUEEN> LOL

<QUEEN> well I am off u guys have a good night

<phlasphy> cya man

<QUEEN> cyaz

<JKnife> wow...

<phlasphy> well you can understand why he was paranoid

<phlasphy> guys i am sorry about what i said

<phlasphy> earlier

<JKnife> don't say sorry to us.. you said it to QUEEN

<phlasphy> i know but i shouldnt have done it

<phlasphy> it just irritates me

<phlasphy> again sorry

<phlasphy> i can officially leave you nice people alone now

<phlasphy> although it would be nice to stay

<phlasphy> i am going to CLI on Gentoo

<JKnife> XD

<JKnife> use OpenBSD

<phlasphy> JKnife: nah

<JKnife> o.O

<JKnife> OpenBSD > Genpoo

<phlasphy> that means a long download on 64/64

<JKnife> you make your own ISO XD

<JKnife> so you can make a mini iso and install over the net..

<phlasphy> still a long download

<phlasphy> JKnife: what can it do that gentoo cant

<phlasphy> apart from the whole source thing

<JKnife> umm i do not know.. 1 remote exploit in 8 years..

<phlasphy> ahwell

<JKnife> umm it is a LOT faster then gentoo (trust me)

<phlasphy> i have nothing on my pc

<PuMpErNiCkLe> 10 years

<JKnife> it is 10 now?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah.

<JKnife> they need to update tehre site XD

<JKnife> there*

<phlasphy> lol

<JKnife> and wasn't it a apache exploit?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> They have updated the site.

<JKnife> uhhh they have..

<JKnife> they skiped 9 years

<JKnife> =\

<JKnife> funny how OpenBSD was a fork of NetBSD now NetBSD syncs with OpenBSD

<Jester45> hello

<phlasphy> what package manager does gentoo have?

<Jester45> idk

<phlasphy> i mean freebsd

<JKnife> *BSD uses pkg_source

<JKnife> or something VERY close to it

<JKnife> emerge is modeled after the pkg_source layout

<phlasphy> JKnife: does that mean is compiles from source?

<JKnife> it can

<JKnife> but it also has prebuilt packages

<phlasphy> how many?

<JKnife> enough

<JKnife> check tehre FTP

<phlasphy> ok

<maxamillion> beb

<maxamillion> brb*

<phlasphy_> k

<Commander-Crowe> FreeBSD uses PORT

<phlasphy_> PORT?

<Commander-Crowe> yes

<JKnife> Commander-Crowe: that do you think pkg_source is?

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<Commander-Crowe> PORT is just a system like gentoo that gets sources and installs them for you

<phlasphy_> ok

<phlasphy> Commander-Crowe: do u think freebsd beats gentioo?

<flavin> Hi, can somebody help me? I have a bunch of tar.gz and tar.bz2 files (themes) that I need to extract.

<flavin> How do I do this (console) ?

<JKnife> 'tar xvzf <file>' for the .gz

<JKnife> 'tar xvjf <file>' for the .bz2

<phlasphy_> JKnife: you are like wikipedia my friend

<JKnife> phlasphy_: XD

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Or like the man page for 'tar'.

<phlasphy_> lol

<PuMpErNiCkLe> ^^

<Commander-Crowe> phlasphy FreeBSD out does Gentoo

<phlasphy_> ok in what ways Commander-Crowe

<JKnife> *BSD out does Gentoo

<JKnife> phlasphy_: trust me.. BSD is really better then Linux..

<phlasphy_> so it is not linux?

<Commander-Crowe> FreeBSD has more power

<JKnife> no.. it is BSD..

<Commander-Crowe> and isn't so hard to set up nor does it take so much time

<Commander-Crowe> nope

<Commander-Crowe> BSD is BSD

<Commander-Crowe> gentoo is linux

<phlasphy_> does that mean i will take ages to to learn my stuff again?

<JKnife> no

<Commander-Crowe> nope

<phlasphy_> ok

<Commander-Crowe> most commands are the same

<JKnife> MOST bsds have the gnu userspace

<phlasphy_> but seeing as i just got gentoo going good

<Commander-Crowe> like 95% of stuff is the same

<flavin> JKnife: OK thanks. When I do that, I get a whole lot of mkdir errors. Do I have to tar it as a superuser?

<JKnife> flavin: move it to your home folder and try again

<Commander-Crowe> phlasphy if you got gentoo going then leave it

<phlasphy_> i will run it off of a seperate HDD

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<JKnife> flavin: or better yet, you said they are theme files right?

<Commander-Crowe> jsut remember

<Commander-Crowe> just*

<Commander-Crowe> you have to manually install any GUIS

<Commander-Crowe> GUI's

<phlasphy_> i dont want GUI

<phlasphy_> CLI FTW

<JKnife> XD

<Commander-Crowe> ah

<Commander-Crowe> BSD is for you then

<Commander-Crowe> its the CLI king

<JKnife> or DOS

<phlasphy_> ok

<Commander-Crowe> DOS?

<JKnife> :)

<Commander-Crowe> well...yea

<flavin> JKnife: Wow, OK that works. What do the "j" and "z" mean? I gotta remember this stuff...

<phlasphy_> Dos<my phone firmware

<Commander-Crowe> well

<Commander-Crowe> I gott ago now

<Commander-Crowe> bye all

<phlasphy_> cya man

*** Commander-Crowe is now known as Commander|away

<JKnife> flavin: j tells it to run it through bunzip2 and z tell it to run it through gunzip

<flavin> JKnife: OK - -;;. Yeah they were themes but they installed into the correct directories automatically.

<JKnife> :)

<JKnife> i suggest you open a terminal and run 'man tar'

<JKnife> and read that..

<flavin> someday

<JKnife> XD

<flavin> when I have 10 extra hours

<JKnife> it wont take 10hrs

*** phlasphy is now known as phlasphy___

*** phlasphy_ is now known as phlasphy

<JKnife> ok.. back to this paper

<flavin> thx

<phlasphy___> how do i close a tab in IRSSi

<maxamillion> back

<flavin> phlasphy___: /leave

<maxamillion> phlasphy___: /wc

<flavin> or that

<JKnife> i thought it was /part =\

<phlasphy___> ta

<flavin> that works too

<JKnife> i heard /quit also works

<maxamillion> phlasphy___: /wc is short for /window close which will work with both irc channels and pm queries

<flavin> that's what you get when you use a 20 year old program

<JKnife> ARE YOU BASHING IRSSI?

<JKnife> ohh hell no!

<flavin> irssi is 20 years old?

<maxamillion> !language

<ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<flavin> I was referring to the IRC protocol.

<JKnife> ohh.. ok...

* JKnife watches flavin

<maxamillion> lol

* flavin friends JKnife

<JKnife> maxamillion: hell is not a bad word =\

<maxamillion> JKnife: play nice

<maxamillion> JKnife: ermm... we will put it up for dibate at the next meeting

<JKnife> i need a list of words i can and can not say

<maxamillion> lol

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Sure, I'll just paste them here.

<JKnife> ok

<JKnife> XD

<flavin> JKnife: You cannot say rlrlrlrlr 3 times fast.

<JKnife> ready?

<JKnife> rlrlrlrlr

<JKnife> rlrlrlrlr

<JKnife> rlrlrlrlr

<JKnife> I WIN!

<phlasphy> rlrlrlrl

<phlasphy> rlrlrlrl

<phlasphy> rlrlrlrl

<maxamillion> irssi terminal buffer ftw

<phlasphy> i come second

<JKnife> =\ we really need todo something about that topic.. and dang it rob left :(

<phlasphy> lol

<phlasphy> speak of the devil

<JKnife> rob!

<rob> hey

<JKnife> omg.. you have got to see that log

<phlasphy> rofl

<JKnife> we need to do something about this topic

<rob> o_O

<rob> like what?

<phlasphy> rob: if you read it i am sorry about my strong language

<JKnife> Chanserv messed up a while back and we lost our nice topic

<rob> well, there are a couple of ops around right now

<maxamillion> rob: who all has op here?

<JKnife> like it is missing the CoC, a few hot links to support pages, and pointing to #ubuntu-xgl for AIGLX,XGL beryl,compiz support

<JKnife> !ops

<ubotu> Help! janimo, Gloubiboulga, crimsun, Nalioth, Seveas, gnomefreak, markuman or Harti

<JKnife> opps

<maxamillion> rgr

<JKnife> i just pinged them didn't i?

<rob> yes

<maxamillion> lol

<JKnife> XD

<rob> don't abuse that, they'll get cranky :P

<JKnife> :)

<somerville32> Can we remove the topic lock?

<somerville32> We've never had it before

<somerville32> OH wait...

<somerville32> Rob isn't an op here :(

<rob> thats right

* JKnife bets cr1msun did it XD

<phlasphy___> how do i turn off my pc?

<phlasphy___> in CLI

<JKnife> phlasphy___: puch the power button

<JKnife> sudo reboot

<JKnife> sudo shutdown -h now

<JKnife> sudo init 0

<JKnife> sudo init 6

<JKnife> CTL+ALT+DEL

<JKnife> i think that is it..

* JKnife shrugs

<phlasphy___> JKnife: how big is freebsd

<JKnife> that is enough

<JKnife> phlasphy___: depends..

<JKnife> on what all you want installed...

<phlasphy___> with no packages

<phlasphy___> i want to install myself

<JKnife> the mini boot only cd is only like 20-40mb

<flavin> whats the file manager called for xfce again?

<flavin> thunar?

<JKnife> Thunar

<elkbuntu> picobsd can run from a floppy disk

<JKnife> (it is a big 'T'

<flavin> k thx.

<maxamillion> phlasphy___: there is linux that runs from floppy also

<phlasphy___> i know

<JKnife> but Adam.. we covered that BSD > Linux

<maxamillion> phlasphy___: if you need something small, just install the xubuntu-alternate with the base package

<maxamillion> JKnife: no no, we haven't

<JKnife> es we have

<phlasphy___> maxamillion: no i want decent CLI

<JKnife> you were AFK during it

<phlasphy___> ubunut is not good

<maxamillion> BSD is different then Linux ... not better

<maxamillion> phlasphy___: then get debian

<phlasphy___> nah

<flavin> JKnife: Do you know the name of the package? apt-get doesn't find Thunar.

<maxamillion> flavin: apt-cache search thunar

<JKnife> flavin: try 'apt-cache search thunar'

<flavin> ooo

<flavin> tyty

* JKnife smacks maxamillion

<maxamillion> ;)

<JKnife> you are NOT JKnife

<maxamillion> np

* maxamillion likes it

<maxamillion> :P

<maxamillion> didn't see that one coming did ya

<maxamillion> ew ... 13 second lag

* JKnife bends Adam over

<maxamillion> NEGATIVE

<JKnife> XD

<rob> gentoo are working on some kind of Gentoo/BSD port that I know of

<JKnife> so is Debian

<rob> yeah

<maxamillion> JKnife: debian has _had_ a bsd port

<JKnife> Debian does everything...

<maxamillion> debian runs on my watch :)

<JKnife> well at least TRIES everything

<elkbuntu> <maxamillion> BSD is different then Linux ... not better <-- find me a freebsd fanboy saying that ;)

<maxamillion> (not really, but i wish it did)

<JKnife> there Win32 thing fell through

<maxamillion> elkbuntu: i am a realist, not a fanboy

<elkbuntu> maxamillion, ;)

<maxamillion> :D

<maxamillion> JKnife: lol, ReactOS is going strong

<JKnife> maxamillion: I am not a fanboy.. but I will say that OpenBSD is better then any Linux I have ever seen

<JKnife> maxamillion: i was talking about Debians Win32 branch

<maxamillion> phlasphy___: if you insist on a BSD, use debian-fbsd

<maxamillion> :P

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, so why do you use linux

<maxamillion> JKnife: rgr

<JKnife> bigfuzzyjesus: one word... OpenGL

<JKnife> OpenBSD does not support it

<maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: because he can't have an operating system on his system for more than a week without formatting it

<JKnife> maxamillion: HEY!

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, why dont you dual boot

<JKnife> when i was playing with *Linux i never reformatted

<JKnife> rm -rf worked just fine

<maxamillion> lol

<JKnife> bigfuzzyjesus: ummm... too much work?

<bigfuzzyjesus> JKnife, lazy?

<JKnife> no.. busy

<maxamillion> i run xubuntu because i am lazy ... otherwise i would still be on debian for desktop

<phlasphy___> JKnife: do you have a link to the iso of a small install of freebsd?

<maxamillion> JKnife: i would put debian stable vs. any bsd in any implementation anyday

<phlasphy___> it is 1400MB'

<maxamillion> :(

<phlasphy___> 1050 sorry

<phlasphy___> too much

<phlasphy___> unless you can use 1 cd to install?

<JKnife> there is a boot only iso

<phlasphy___> can you install that?

<JKnife> maxamillion: i throw in OpenBSD

<JKnife> phlasphy___: ask in #freebsd

<maxamillion> JKnife: what implementation, what comparison?

<JKnife> OpenBSD 4.0 and latest Debian release.. on umm stablity

<JKnife> and security XD

<maxamillion> LAWL ... easy win ... ok, debian sarge3.1

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<maxamillion> stable branch

<maxamillion> JKnife: actually ... that would be pointless, debian uses all the same security apps/protocols as openbsd

<phlasphy> stability then?

<JKnife> wait.. you have to include the kernels security

<JKnife> it IS a BSD vs Linux

<JKnife> =\ we need a fair judge

<phlasphy> me

<phlasphy> tie

<phlasphy> now get over it

<JKnife> -_-

<JKnife> NEVER!

<maxamillion> well ... i've got a live server running debian (actually sid, so unstable branch) that has about a 2 year uptime with zero compromizes

<phlasphy> fine then

<JKnife> maxamillion: how many security hot fixes?

<maxamillion> actually ... i don't care right now, i like what i like so i use it ... you do the same, i have code to write

<phlasphy> why do so many people have servers

<maxamillion> JKnife: hot fixes? ... zero, just update modules and such as they are released

<flavin> how can I run something from console (a gui app) so that it doesn't continue running there

<JKnife> OpenBSD wins.. "The Debian search engine has been disabled for now. We're working on it." it has been like that for a while now...

<JKnife> flavin: press alt+f2 and run it from there

<flavin> im using all 4 desktops

<JKnife> so?

<JKnife> alt+f2 is a common short cut

<flavin> ive got about 3 eterms running on each one ; (

<phlasphy> make more silly

<flavin> I just mean... there's some programs when I really don't need the console window at all

<maxamillion> JKnife: ok, so their website has a function disabled because their webmaster is lazy and therefore the OS is lesser?

<flavin> e.g. thunar

<phlasphy> JKnife: i will be back in 42 mins with freebsd

<phlasphy> :P

<maxamillion> flavin: alt+f2 like JKnife said ... it will give you a "run" option

<maxamillion> flavin: also ... why not launch thunar from the menu or make a panel icon?

<flavin> oh, I guess its different in fluxbox them

<phlasphy> maxamillion: i would choose debian but i have tried it ad lot like it

<flavin> in fluxbox that just takes you to the second desktop

<JKnife> you need to run fluxbox-generate-menu

<JKnife> then edit ~/.fluxbox/menuconfig and uncomment fbrun then rerun fluxbox-generate-menu

<JKnife> and you should have a run dialog in the menu now

<maxamillion> flavin: yeah, different in flux

<flavin> JKnife: OK, I'll try that now thanks.

<DARKGuy> I'm trying to set up apache on my local comp for sharing files to friends when they can't download from somewhere and such. How would I go into making apache2 give public access to the outside world?

<flavin> JKnife: the & operator was what I was looking for. I haven't figured out the menu yet so I have to leave that for later D ;.

<maxamillion> phlasphy: wait, what? ... you would use debian, but ??

<JKnife> but that leaves it running in the terminal

<DARKGuy> hey maxamillion ^^

<JKnife> i need to get stoned and write this paper =\

<maxamillion> hi DARKGuy

<JKnife> that is how i did the first one.. and made a 80 on it

* maxamillion is only here-ish ... is coding atm

* JKnife same as maxamillion but writing a paper

<DARKGuy> Oh well xD

<phlasphy> i have had it before maxamillion

<maxamillion> phlasphy: and you said you liked it, right?

<flavin> JKnife: But I can just close console, right?

<flavin> JKnife: And I can still use it to do whatever else.

<phlasphy> it was alrite but i prefer gentoo

<JKnife> flavin: no.. you close the terminal the program closes

<JKnife> =\ i need coffee

<JKnife> brb

* maxamillion is drinking coffee

<maxamillion> phlasphy: ahhh, source person ... fair enough gentoo is very respectable

<maxamillion> brb

<phlasphy> source person

<phlasphy> ?

<phlasphy> that is the one thing i hate about gentoo

<maxamillion> oh

<maxamillion> thats what most people love about it

<phlasphy> takes too long

<maxamillion> well, most poeple who prefer it

<maxamillion> amen, i'm too impatient to run gentoo

<phlasphy> from what i have heard about freebsd it could be me

<maxamillion> phlasphy: it might be and its a really good system

<JKnife> then phlasphy you need archlinux

<phlasphy> i hate that

<maxamillion> JKnife: archlinux == pacman right?

<phlasphy> i just cant remember why

<JKnife> maxamillion: yeah

<maxamillion> JKnife: ok, thought so

<phlasphy> i like the pretty colours of gentoo CLI

<maxamillion> omg

<maxamillion> that's it?

<maxamillion> you can do that with ANY distro

<JKnife> Archlinux has somecool colours.. and i can tell you how to change em

<phlasphy> ahwell

<maxamillion> gentoo just does framebuffer by default

<phlasphy> i like gentoo

<phlasphy> maxamillion: i had to add something like vga=#### and video=vesafb in grb.conf

<phlasphy> maxamillion: i had to add something like vga=#### and video=vesafb in grub.conf

<JKnife> you have to do that with EVERY distro

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> well cept the video=vesafb

<JKnife> vga=791 is what i use

<JKnife> 1024.768x16bbp

<phlasphy> i have to use vga=something.31B

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<maxamillion> i don't spend much time outside of X so i just leave the ttys at default

<phlasphy> 1280x1024 FTW

<Commander-Crowe> 1600X1200 FTW

<phlasphy> :(

<Commander-Crowe> what?

<phlasphy> wish i had that

<maxamillion> me too

<maxamillion> i hope to after x-mas .... 21" widescreen lcd 1600x1200 :)

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> I wish I could get a 24" LCD

<Commander-Crowe> 2048X1600

<maxamillion> 21" is perfect for me ... i tried one out at work and it was nice ... if i have to do only a single monitor, 21" widescreen is quite nice

<phlasphy> all i am getting for xmas is a cowan iaudio X5L

<maxamillion> but i also like my dual 17" setup at my desk at work ... just don't have the money for 2 at home

<maxamillion> phlasphy: well i am going to have to buy it for myself, its my present to me ... saving up as we speak ;)

<phlasphy> ok

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> I'm gonna bye my sister some ram for Christmas

<phlasphy> rofl

<Commander-Crowe> buy*

<phlasphy> wish i could bye my sister

<maxamillion> lol

<Commander-Crowe> hahaha

<phlasphy> hate her

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<phlasphy> i am not trying FBSd

<maxamillion> why not?

<phlasphy> why

<phlasphy> it did not even work :(

* JKnife hands phlasphy dragonfly bsd

<Commander-Crowe> oh?

<maxamillion> phlasphy: you could try pcBSD ... its like .... PC-BSD:FreeBSD::Ubuntu:debian

<phlasphy> nah

* Commander-Crowe hands phlasphy DesktopBSD

<phlasphy> i will sitck with gentoo

<maxamillion> phlasphy: fair enough

<maxamillion> phlasphy: wait ... do you use xubuntu at all?

<JKnife> if FBSD will not work, DesktopBSD, and PC-BSD will not work

<phlasphy> not really

<phlasphy> lol

<phlasphy> hope i can stay here

<maxamillion> phlasphy: i don't care ...

<phlasphy> ok

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<maxamillion> phlasphy: just think its funny that we probably have as many xubuntu users around here as we do "other"

<phlasphy> lol

<JKnife> phlasphy: ehh yeah we reall do not care.. as i troll OFTEN.. but i am not really trolling right now.. =\

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<JKnife> s|reall|really|

<phlasphy> i was running it

* JKnife needs sleep

<JKnife> good night

<maxamillion> night night

<phlasphy> night man

<phlasphy> cya man

<phlasphy> cya men

<Commander-Crowe> I hate this hour

<Commander-Crowe> everyone stops talking

<somerville32> :]

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<maxamillion> i sorry

<maxamillion> knee deep in code

<maxamillion> you can help me remember C ... :P

<maxamillion> haven't coded it in 8 months

<Commander-Crowe> I don't know C

<Commander-Crowe> jsut Python

<maxamillion> :/

<Commander-Crowe> just

<maxamillion> :)

<maxamillion> python is next on my list to learn ... i've read _alot_ about it and i am really excited

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

* maxamillion concidered running flux with pypanel for a while instead of xfce

<Commander-Crowe> C++ is next on my list

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: learn C first ... get the grit done with and then enjoy the syntactic sugar ... unless you never plan to learn C, then don't bother ... its not fun

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> C

<maxamillion> really good tutorial http://einstein.drexel.edu/courses/CompPhys/General/C_basics/c_tutorial.html#compute

<Commander-Crowe> what is it your coding maxamillion

<maxamillion> just some junk for class

<Commander-Crowe> some of this is like python

<maxamillion> i didn't feel like writing this one in ada so i thought i would switch it up for fun ... gonna write the next assignment in java :)

<maxamillion> need some variety in my life

<maxamillion> this is also good for C ... http://www.imada.sdu.dk/~svalle/courses/dm14-2005/mirror/c/

<Commander-Crowe> how do i compile C and C++ in linux?

<somerville32> gcc for C and g++ for C++

<maxamillion> sudo aptitude install gcc g++

<maxamillion> gcc -o foo foo.c

<maxamillion> g++ -o bar bar.cpp

<maxamillion> :)

<maxamillion> somerville32: you know C right?

<somerville32> haha

<somerville32> Not _really_

<maxamillion> hrmm

<maxamillion> i can't remember exactly how i am supposed to do this, i think i need to do a typedef but it might freak out ...

<maxamillion> lets see....

* maxamillion tries typedef anyways

<maxamillion> hrmm.. seg fault at runtime

<Commander-Crowe> whats with

<Commander-Crowe> void main()

<Commander-Crowe> ?

<maxamillion> ahhhh got it

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: int main() is more common for debugging

<maxamillion> errr... error handling/report

<maxamillion> reporting*

<Commander-Crowe> ah ok

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: but either will compile and run

<maxamillion> got it!

<maxamillion> typedef struct { //stuff } variableName;

<Commander-Crowe> helloworld.c:1:20: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory

<Commander-Crowe> helloworld.c: In function ‘main’:

<Commander-Crowe> helloworld.c:5: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘printf’

<Commander-Crowe> helloworld.c:4: warning: return type of ‘main’ is not ‘int

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> my first programming in C and I failed badly

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: paste your printf

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: ?

<Commander-Crowe> sorry about that

<Commander-Crowe> DANG IT

<Commander-Crowe> argh

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> bye all

<maxamillion> lol

<maxamillion> anyone around?

<somerville32> me

<maxamillion> lol

<maxamillion> somerville32: i need someone who isn't busy for like 5 minutes

<somerville32> Sure.

<maxamillion> you?

<maxamillion> you said you were doing like a million things

<maxamillion> i don't wanna bother you

<somerville32> Yeah, use me

<somerville32> Pick me

<maxamillion> ok

<maxamillion> sudo aptitude install pypanel

<maxamillion> then type pypanel in the command line and tell me what happens

<maxamillion> then sup aptitude remove pypanel

<somerville32> Ugh oh

<somerville32> lol

<maxamillion> sudo*

<maxamillion> lol, ok

<maxamillion> somerville32: why not?

<somerville32> I didn't say I wouldn't

<somerville32> ;]

<maxamillion> oh

<maxamillion> sorry, i read it wrong ... very tired

<maxamillion> somerville32: ?

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<maxamillion> somerville32: how'd it go?

<somerville32> Ok, launching pypanels now

<maxamillion> and?

<somerville32> Interesting...

<maxamillion> it worked?

<somerville32> Sort of

<maxamillion> i got a "pypanel: command not found"

<maxamillion> bash: pypanel: command not found

<somerville32> somerville32@serenity:~$ pypanel

<somerville32> worked for me

<maxamillion> :(

<maxamillion> lemme check the repos.. maybe its because i'm on amd64

<maxamillion> nope

<maxamillion> somerville32: ok, thanks ... i'm off to sleep :)

<gavintu> how do I run scripts from console?

<gavintu> like ... just text files

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<gavintu> if i want to look for a file in console (e.g. "bubuntu*", how could I do that?

<michaelpo> hi... i'm trying to view youtube.... it require flash? do i install from downloading from adobe? or do i use adept? i have downloaded from adobe, it ask me to install gsfonts and gsfonts-x11. how? it ask me for installation path of konqueror? where is it?

<tictacaddict> BYE

<tictacaddict> er, I mean.... bye?

<zOap> How do I turn of the rememer last input in the run dialog?

<vidd> sweet....i have beryl set up to <alt><tab> between applications and auto-rotate....man is it cool

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<maxsoft> hi all. I'm tring to install xubuntu. I see OS that load. when it finish appear a black screen with blink cursor on the left top corner. any idea? thank you.

<j1mc> hi maxsoft, i was experiencing the same issue not too long ago. let me see if i can find some links that may help

<maxsoft> thank you very very much.

<j1mc> maxsoft, have you checked out the ubuntu forums at all yet?

<maxsoft> it's hard to search.

<maxsoft> I've searched 'black screen' but nothing.

<maxsoft> any other idea?

<j1mc> try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xubuntu-artwork-usplash

<maxsoft> when I digit I can see nothing.

<j1mc> oh, it won't boot at all?

<Jester45> hello

<j1mc> hi Jester45

<j1mc> maxsoft, it won't boot at all?

<maxsoft> it boot. I see the xcfe logo ant progress bar. after some minutes appear black screen

<maxsoft> now I'm starting win99 and go well.

<maxsoft> 'win98'

<`GooZ> is there any text on the black screen, or just a cursor?

<maxsoft> just the cursor

<`GooZ> mmh

<`GooZ> so you can't type anything?

<j1mc> can you boot into recovery mode?

<Jester45> whould anyone like to help me set up a wireless card? or have any gudies

<maxsoft> yes. almost.. I dont see anithing.

<Jester45> !wireless

<ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs

<maxsoft> j1mc: did you mean safe graphics mode ?

<j1mc> maxsoft, see my question . . . have you tried booting into recovery mode?

<maxsoft> I've the live cd.

<maxsoft> now I'm in the start menu.

<j1mc> yes, graphics safe mode.

<maxsoft> ok

<maxsoft> I try

<j1mc> i think that there should be a recovery mode option when you boot into your grub menu

<maxsoft> loading linux kernel

<maxsoft> appear the mouse

<maxsoft> and progress bar

<maxsoft> I see reading from cd

<`GooZ> but before that, the menu where you select between win98 and xubuntu

<j1mc> i take it that you're typing this on one computer, and that xubuntu is loading on another?

<maxsoft> progress bar move