<Seeker``> hi
<anti-net_> hello Seeker``
<Seeker``> how are yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou?
<Seeker``> sorry, dodgy keyboard
<GazzaK> scooby dooby dooooooo
<anti-net_> gooooooooooood thanks :P
<AdonaiUK> off to bed
<AdonaiUK> nite nite
<Seeker``> i dont know why my keyboard does that
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Hello?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Anybody know how to set up httpd.conf so when you type http://intranet/ it loads a dir
<JJRR123Jamesrose> ?
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<mrben> morning all
<sheepeatingtaz> morning mrben
* mrben is working today :(
* sheepeatingtaz is going christmas shopping - again :)
<mrben> ouch
<mrben> amazon vouchers are the way forward
* mrben is performing a database migration from one server to another
<sheepeatingtaz> amazon vouchers would be no good for my mum
<sheepeatingtaz> she only started using the internet a fortnight ago :)
<mrben> consider it an incentive ;)
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<popey> moo
<binary2k2> woof
<AdonaiUK> afternoon u all
<binary2k2> hi AdonaiUK
<AdonaiUK> hi binary2k2, how are u doing?
<binary2k2> fine, had a good lay in :D
<AdonaiUK> :-)
<LoudMouthMan> ping popey
<LoudMouthMan> afternoonall.
<LoudMouthMan> hell NeilOxford..
<LoudMouthMan> hello even
<neiloxford> hi to all
<LoudMouthMan> sorry theres no ALL in this channel <snigger>
<LoudMouthMan> we have an Al,
<LoudMouthMan> though
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<james> Mornin'
<LoudMouthMan> eeek real names on IRC. multiverses are colliding , realities merging !
<NeilSimmons> <grin>
<LoudMouthMan> hello . good afternoon.
<NeilSimmons> hi james
<james> oh its afternoon! haha
<james> Ive gotta go to bed earlier
* LoudMouthMan disavows any knoweldge of real world names..
<james> Was up till about 2 playing about with apache
<NeilSimmons> does his wife know?
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<popey> making meeting date/time/place more clear
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Where is the host name file in windows?
<X3N> JJRR123Jamesrose: system32/drivers/etc/hosts
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Cheers ;]
<popey> quiet in here at the weekend :)
<mrben> yeah
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Indeedly
<X3N> i'm not supposed to be here but i missed my train
<X3N> i seem to be able to turn my alarm clock off without waking up
<X3N> gonna have to move it across the other side of the room
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I want a frikin shark with a frikin laser beam on its head
<JJRR123Jamesrose> love that film :]]
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Are there any good DVDs out at the moment?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I'm in a dvd watching mood
<mrben> serenity, if you've not seen it ;)
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Nope!
<JJRR123Jamesrose> good film then?
<mrben> it's been out for a while, but it's dead good
<mrben> but then - I'm a die-hard firefly fan
<mrben> what type of film are you looking for?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Comedy, action, don't mind :]
<mrben> :)
<mrben> if you've not seen it, go to the cinema and see Casino Royal - it rocks
<mrben> if you're thinking Serenity, then it's an action, sci-fi, space western ;)
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Ive seen it
<mrben> the series is better than the film, but the film is _really_ good
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Anybody been watching Torchwood? Thats a good series.
<mrben> yeah; I've been enjoying it too
<mrben> although sometimes I think they've tried too hard to find content to fit their post-watershed timeline
<JJRR123Jamesrose> yes
<mrben> but overall it's been very entertaining
<JJRR123Jamesrose> See the episode with the fairies?
<mrben> one review I saw said it was less adult, more adolescent ;)
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Thats the best one ive seen so far
<mrben> yeah - the fairy episode was scary
<mrben> really nicely done
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Extremely
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I couldn't watch when the old person was in the house on her own
<JJRR123Jamesrose> freaky stuff
<mrben> yeah
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Whens it next on?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I gotta watch it now :)
<mrben> torchwood? tomorrow night
<mrben> BBC3
<mrben> although they sometimes run repeats on Saturday evening on BBC3
<JJRR123Jamesrose> yeah
<JJRR123Jamesrose> sweet
* mrben checks freeguide
<JJRR123Jamesrose> How do you do that?
<mrben> erm - install freeguide ;)
<JJRR123Jamesrose> * <name> bleh
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Im a noob on ir
<JJRR123Jamesrose> c
<mrben> ahhhh
<mrben> you type /me <action>
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Ahh :] Thanks
<mrben> so - /me waves looks like this
* mrben waves
* JJRR123Jamesrose waves back
<mrben> oh, and freeguide is at http://freeguide-tv.sourceforge.net/ FYI ;)
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Woop
<mrben> \o/
<JJRR123Jamesrose> or apt-get install xmltv
<mrben> sadly no torchwood on bbc3 tonight
<mrben> they're showing crimson tide
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Oh well, something to look forward to
<mrben> heh - it's a weird film
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Never seen it
<mrben> it's not particularly interesting, but when you get to the end it feels like only 15 minutes has gone by
<JJRR123Jamesrose> wow it has loads of dependencies
<JJRR123Jamesrose> like 15
<mrben> ouch
<JJRR123Jamesrose> to be exact - 18 !
* mrben has it on Windows here
<mrben> I really must get my mythtv box back up and running
* JJRR123Jamesrose is waiting until after christmas to get his windows laptop :]
<JJRR123Jamesrose> or a mac mini
<JJRR123Jamesrose> havn't decided yet
<mrben> I have an old desktop I used as a backend
<mrben> and then run the frontend on my desktop/laptop
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I just got a ubuntu desktop and ubuntu laptop :]
<mrben> nice
<mrben> I have those too :)
<mrben> my work laptop dualboots
<mrben> my home desktop is all Egy
<mrben> Edgy*
<JJRR123Jamesrose> same
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Never had any problems with edgy, apart from the boot splash screen stayed the same as the old one
<JJRR123Jamesrose> which was probably the only reason I upgrade ;)
* JJRR123Jamesrose *cough*
<mrben> :)
* mrben likewise
<JJRR123Jamesrose> And this really annoying error
<mrben> apart from an issue with my wifi card on edgy
<mrben> it's a known problem, I believe
<mrben> a bit annoying though
<mrben> I originally installed the Warty Warthog pre-release on my lappy
<mrben> :)
<JJRR123Jamesrose> A Error occured, Please run the package manager from the right click menu or apt-get on a terminal to see what is wrong. The error messege was: 'Error: opening cache (E:could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (13 permission denied, E the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
<JJRR123Jamesrose> from the little orange notifcation ico
<JJRR123Jamesrose> n
<JJRR123Jamesrose> It comes and goes
<X3N> get a terminal up and do ls -l /var/cache
<JJRR123Jamesrose> ok
<X3N> that should be /var/cache/apt/
<JJRR123Jamesrose> right
<mrben> weird
<JJRR123Jamesrose> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9384133 2006-12-02 13:19 pkgcache.bin
<JJRR123Jamesrose> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9290083 2006-12-02 02:10 srcpkgcache.bin
<mrben> is apt-get running anywhere else?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> nope
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I can update, do all the things correctly
<JJRR123Jamesrose> install stuff
<X3N> you'd get a lock error if that was the case
<JJRR123Jamesrose> yeah
<mrben> you normally get that either with a permissions problem, or if apt-get is running in 2 places at once
<X3N> those permisions look correct
<mrben> X3N: ah; so you're right
<JJRR123Jamesrose> ;[
* JJRR123Jamesrose crys
<X3N> close synaptics and do a apt-get autoclean then apt-get update
<JJRR123Jamesrose> "A package manager is working" - should give it a minute to decide what it wants to do
<JJRR123Jamesrose> (thats when i hover over the icon)
<X3N> anyone had vmware hanging problems ?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Im having vmware problems.
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Like - when i try to install it, it keeps looping
<X3N> the program works fine, but the first time you start it up it just sits there for a couple of minutes
<JJRR123Jamesrose> runing the config
<X3N> oh yeah
<X3N> that's a pain in the arse
<JJRR123Jamesrose> and it does it when i try to install anything so i just purged it or summit
<JJRR123Jamesrose> and that got rid of ti
<JJRR123Jamesrose> it
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Has anybody fixed that yet?
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Ps. That error has gone :D
<X3N> there is a work around
<X3N> good good
<X3N> the loop is caused by the fact that vmware has a kernel module which is built to your current kernel
<JJRR123Jamesrose> oh
<JJRR123Jamesrose> DO you know the work around?
<X3N> i don't think the packagers have got all the kernels in there
<X3N> or the dependencies right. I install it now by downloading it from vmware
<X3N> means you get the latest version too
<X3N> there are lots of posts on the ubuntu forums about it
<binary2k2> that the vmware workstation or player?
<X3N> player
<binary2k2> hmm, it installed fine for me, on edgy
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Didn't work for me
<JJRR123Jamesrose> I read about 12 posts on the forums
<JJRR123Jamesrose> *topics
<JJRR123Jamesrose> There must be something wrong
* JJRR123Jamesrose *crys*...again
<binary2k2> maybe i'm just lucky :p
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Probably
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Was it a fresh install?
<binary2k2> no, upgrade from dapper
<JJRR123Jamesrose> meh
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Your lucky
<binary2k2> I had to switch to the player when the kernel module wouldn't compile for worstation, don't know if that's bin fixed yet
<JJRR123Jamesrose> Watching serenity now
<JJRR123Jamesrose> :p
<mrben> \o/
<popey> still not seen that
<mrben> :o
<mrben> the series makes the film a much better experience, IMHO, although the film is brilliant
<mrben> you get a better feel for the characters when you've watched the series
<mrben> it's not that it makes more sense, but more that you have deeper feelings towards the characters
<mrben> but it's definitely worth seeing
<popey> i have watched the series, just never got round to the film
<mrben> :o
<mrben> wow
<mrben> you're in for a treat then, if you liked the series
* mrben -> home
<plichel> hi, dont get a screen with vlc player, when trying to run a network stream (http://localhost:8908/tv.asf)
<plichel> using command ./sp-sc sop://211.152.34.35:3912/6002 3908 8908 > /dev/null to put the network stream to port 8908
<plichel> exactly as described in the readme
<plichel> of sopcast
<dinomorous> how do i install ubuntu????
<chaddy> do you want to dual boot?
<dinomorous> what's that?
<chaddy> that is, do you want to be able to use XP and Ubuntu at different times on the same machine?
<dinomorous> does it werk with windows 98SE??????
<chaddy> should do
<dinomorous> c00l!!!
<chaddy> one question mark at a time is plenty, btw
<chaddy> ;-)
<chaddy> dinomorous: http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
<chaddy> ^this is quite a good howto
<chaddy> fancy having a read and coming back with any questions?
<LoudMouthMan> evening all .
<chaddy> lo LoudMouthMan
<LoudMouthMan> Hey Chaddy , how are you doing ?
<anti-net_> Evening Gentlemen
<chaddy> pretty good, just returned from a few days in Glasgow sharing the good word
<chaddy> that sounded a bit religious...
<chaddy> was a very open-sourcey few days
<anti-net_> ahh spreading the love I see :-)
<chaddy> and getting it spread back to me, too, nice ;-)
<LoudMouthMan> Ahh and in glasgow to be honest a great place ... .to leave !
<chaddy> rained the whole time I was there
<chaddy> :-/
<NeilSimmons> I used to live not far from Glasgow. . . lived there for four years. Two seasons - June and Winter.
<chaddy> I'm originally from Carluke in the Clyde Valley, that's what I grew up with, we just believed that was the way of the world
<NeilSimmons> I was in Helensburgh.
<anti-net_> hi jayteeuk
<anti-net_> erh
<anti-net_> hi joshd
<joshd> hello
<LoudMouthMan> hey
<anti-net_> using my magiacally powers, I believe joshd has a problem with Ndiswrapper :P
<joshd> indeed
<joshd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311266
<chaddy> what wifi card/dongle?
<chaddy> ahh
<LoudMouthMan> ant-nt thats amazing .. with those powers.. you'llbe beating popey in no time !
<joshd> D-Link DWL-G132 (USB)
<anti-net_> Heh ^_^
<joshd> the thing is, I just dont get how it can work one time, and then next time, with the same drivers, it breaks
<chaddy> joshd: are you getting errors?
<chaddy> segmentation faults, in particular?
<joshd> yea, hold on:
<joshd> segmentation faults?
<chaddy> just having a google, could be that there's an irq conflict with your eth0
<chaddy> wikipedia has a better explanation on segfaults (and much besides) than I can give
<joshd> want me to paste the output?
<chaddy> /msg me it and I'll paste the relevant bits as needed
<jamesbrose> Hey doods.
<anti-net_> hi jamesbrose
<jamesbrose> Please, James :]
<jamesbrose> My girlfriend just asked me the strangest question ever!
<chaddy> jamesbrose: is seasier
<chaddy> ja<tab>
* jamesbrose got asked if he watched gay midget porn
<jamesbrose> and I was like wtf?
<chaddy> who doesn't?
<jamesbrose> haha
* anti-net_ is watching some now
<jamesbrose> ...
<anti-net_> you can't help but laugh
<chaddy> that's not very PC
<anti-net_> Bah, I know
<chaddy> you should include them in your faps
<chaddy> equal fap rights
<anti-net_> haha
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<anti-net_> ahh, you know a channel has gone downhill when people start talking about faps
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<jamesbrose> woops
<jamesbrose> Topic : Gay midge porn
<jamesbrose> midget*
<jamesbrose> Probably get like twice the amount of people in here ;)
<anti-net_> or a ban
<jamesbrose> Im off to watch the rest of serenity
<jamesbrose> haha
<anti-net_> this is freenode, not efnet :P
<jamesbrose> LOL
<chaddy> joshd: this might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1760732 cesare's post
<joshd> i cant /msg you without registering chaddy
<anti-net_> joshd, pastebin?
<jamesbrose> Im off adios
<anti-net_> joshd, use mine http://liqnet.pastebin.com
<joshd> that modprobe doesnt pull up anything
<chaddy> lsmod|grep link
<joshd> nothing
<chaddy> or replace link with something you know to be in the module name
<joshd> for lsmod|grep ndiswrapper, it says:
<joshd> ndiswrapper 177364 0
<joshd> usbcore 129668 8 ndiswrapper,usblp,wacom,usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
<joshd> and that is ti]
<joshd> it*
<chaddy> that looks promising
<chaddy> a while since I used ndiswrapper... next steps ifconfig, ifup, perhaps?
<joshd> ifconfig has eth0 and lo, but no wireless adaptor
<joshd> what options does ifup want?
<joshd> (anti_net, your pastebin doesnt work)
<joshd> if i use ndiswrapper without ndisgtk, it SAYS that the driver is installed fine, yet wlan0 is never in the ifcongig
<joshd> any ideas?
<chaddy> could be ath0, also seen rausb0 for a dongle
* chaddy is a bit too baked to remember the exact incantations... /me rotates the cube to google
<joshd> must go, thanks for the help guys
<chaddy> iwconfig show anything>
<chaddy> oh he's gone
<anti-net_> i'll give him a prod on MSN
<anti-net_> oh hes gone back to windows :/
<popey> !automatix
<ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
<chaddy> anti-net_: pass him this, please https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
<anti-net_> !WorksForMe
<ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
<popey> !WorksForMe
<LoudMouthMan> hahah I read !automatix as an expression of popeys desire to NOT use it .. I guess i been coding a bit to much this week !
* popey needed that information from ubotu to support he suggestion to someone NOT to use it
<chaddy> I've used automatix on this install, it's not perfect
<anti-net_> does automatix handle stuff like closed software?
<popey> define "handle"
<chaddy> aye, it gave me flash, and acrobat
<popey> it will install non-free stuff, yes
<anti-net_> install, uninstall, kill
<popey> yes anti-net_
<anti-net_> so why do people use it over Synaptic?
<binary2k2> because they are dumb?
<popey> s/dumb/lazy
<binary2k2> or both
<popey> they want an easy way to install stuff, it provides that
<popey> they dont know or care for the consequences
<anti-net_> hmm i know alot of people like that
<popey> exactly
<anti-net_> They then come running when its broken :(
<popey> when automatix first came out they were very anti it in #ubuntu
<popey> the bot message was a bit stronger iirc
<popey> :)
<popey> LoudMouthMan: you pinged me earlier?
<popey> !ubuntuguide
<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
<LoudMouthMan> yeah sorry .. i was after some xmame bioses if you had them !
<popey> https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2670
<popey> xmame bios?
<popey> bios for what?
<jamesbrose> Im back :] Serenity was really good :]
<popey> :)
<LoudMouthMan> well mostly midway roms and neogeo . Im returning to my old pile of disks/roms and stuff and resurrecting them for the fairs.
<popey> clearly I cannot give you copies of copyrighted material
<LoudMouthMan> sure <grin> i know that ..
<popey> ---> prv
<LoudMouthMan> I do see though that moves are afoot that will make roms legal !
<anti-net_> about time!!
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<popey> moo
<anto9us> LoudMouthMan, have you tried alt.binaries.emulators.mame?
<LoudMouthMan> Still the interesting news is that Xubuntu on a old PIII Gateway desktop with 128MB of ram happily works with democracty player/banshee and Xmame and scumm !
<LoudMouthMan> anto9us . well i was but i figured.. popey knows all, and sees all <grin>
<anto9us> well you was what?
<LoudMouthMan> I was going to check further afield <grin> but I got lazy and ponged popey
<anto9us> LoudMouthMan, have you used newsgroups for binaries before?
<LoudMouthMan> anot9us .. im like 37 and been online before Cix was cool .. <grni>yep im that old and yes <big warm smiling grin > ive used them .. heheeh .
<LoudMouthMan> and anyone who wants to mock me age can just watch out for me zimmer !
<anto9us> ok :) it's just I can't see why anyone would look beyond them, though ISP servers do vary in mileage I suppose
<NeilSimmons> be careful - he's had spikes put on the legs of his zimmer frame. .
<anto9us> LoudMouthMan, I'm 40 next birthday
<LoudMouthMan> woohooo !
<LoudMouthMan> someone older than me ... finally ! I was giving up all home <grin>
<LoudMouthMan> hope even
<anto9us> I don't look it though <grin>
<LoudMouthMan> well the grey in my hair suggests I do .. but I just blame it on supporting windows users <grin
<anto9us> simple solution to that, shave it all off
<ormiret> LoudMouthMan: that was a quick year, you were 36 in #lugradio earlier today :)
<LoudMouthMan> see my age is gettign to me already !
<anto9us> cix was cool in its day, was my first ISP
<NeilSimmons> LoudMouthMan: at least you still _have_ hair. . .
<LoudMouthMan> yeah Neilsimmons thats true , and can you turn your monitor round. the glare is catching my eye !
<NeilSimmons> I'm growing my eyebrows in the hope of using them as a comb-over. . . <grin>
<LoudMouthMan> i was born inlike 1971 in august and can never remember which side of the year im on !
<NeilSimmons> the Dark Side.
<NeilSimmons> HTH, HAND.
<anto9us> LoudMouthMan, same year they introduced decimal currency, I still remember the old money, just
<NeilSimmons> <snigger>
<LoudMouthMan> yeah when i was young I usedto think my parents only saw in b&w becayse that all the old films were made in !
* Seeker` prods popey's @!
<anto9us> LoudMouthMan, tv? you were lucky, we had a tin bath and thrashing before our supper
<LoudMouthMan> Bloody luxury !
<Seeker`> when i was younger, i had to get up half an hour before i went to bed
<NeilSimmons> Tin bath? You don't know you're born!
<Seeker`> eat a lump of cold poison
<NeilSimmons> had to work 26 hours down the mine and pay them for the privilege. . .
<anto9us> NeilSimmons, yes, we kept it all civilised, we had an order to things, same water but first the kids, then the whippets, then grandad
<Seeker`> and when i got home, our dad would chop us to pieces and dance on our graves
<Seeker`> but if you try to tell that to the youth of today, they wont belive ya
<NeilSimmons> <grin>
<Seeker`> how is everyone?
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<anto9us> I'm pining, I'm after some punani and I've been too busy to get my profile online proper
<LoudMouthMan> were fine .
<LoudMouthMan> enjoying the sunny weather
<jamesbrose> How do i get apt-get to ignore vmware-player!
<jamesbrose> I did this hack for it, changing the init.d thing
<jamesbrose> It still insists to configure it again
<jamesbrose> and again, and again!!
<Seeker`> LoudMouthMan: sun?
<anto9us> jamesbrose, I think you may need to check out pinning
<anto9us> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
<jamesbrose> :S
<jamesbrose> I don't get it
<anto9us> basically, you're saying don't upgrade this package, synaptic may be an easier way to do it, I think than that howto explains, Package | Lock Version
<jamesbrose> meh
<jamesbrose> I will just use qemu
<anto9us> jamesbrose, I'm very drunk and now realise I probably misunderstood the question
<jamesbrose> haha
<jamesbrose> Ok :]
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<LoudMouthMan> ping jono when your free for 2 mins mate.

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