<siccness> oh yay, 2 speeding tickeys in 10mins
<hysterio> siccness: congratulations! :(
<siccness> its ok, ill claim the car was stolen and they can get rooted
<hysterio> you could do an einfeld
<hysterio> http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/einfeld-king-of-the-road-and-master-of-excuses/2006/11/23/1163871546473.html
<adhoc> hack
<adhoc> cough
<Rothbuntu> ahhh indeed
<adhoc> hmmm ...
<rob> o.O
* adhoc needs a shower after all that grinding
<Tatey> what's the Australian Linux channel on this server?
<merlin-linux> adhoc: hiya
<adhoc> Tatey: linux-aus
<adhoc> hi merlin-linux
<Tatey> that's right, cheers
<adhoc> Tatey: no problems ;)
* Rothbuntu shakes fist and wireless gods " DAMN YOU TO HELL "
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: welcome to proprietry vendor hell
<merlin-linux> hehe
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: what chipset ?
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: this is why hardware needs to be open source ...
<Rothbuntu> intel 3945
<merlin-linux> my ipw3945abg works great
<Rothbuntu> nome network manager cant find any adaptors
<adhoc> is that a binary blob firmware jobie?
<Rothbuntu> it worked awsome till i restarted
<merlin-linux> i just need to install lrm iirc under edgy to get wifi to work
<hysterio> 20 lcd's are awesome...
<hysterio> 20" even
<Rothbuntu> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic and sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager is all i did but gnm has died
<merlin-linux> oh
<merlin-linux> Rothbuntu: try sudo modprobe ipw3945
<merlin-linux> Rothbuntu: you have an acer laptop right
<Rothbuntu> nothing
<Rothbuntu> it shows up in lspci
<merlin-linux> Rothbuntu: you have an acer laptop right
<Rothbuntu> yeah
<Rothbuntu> 5672WLMi
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: i have had mixed results with Network Manager
<merlin-linux> have you got a switch at the from of the laptop to turn your wireless on / off
<merlin-linux> is that switch flashing
<Rothbuntu> yar its on and the light is flashing very fast
<merlin-linux> it trying to connect to something
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: yeah have you enabled the wireless interface in that "System -> admin -> networking" menu ?
<Rothbuntu> yep
<adhoc> i found that unless i enabled it, nothing happened
<adhoc> even if i set it all up from the CLI
<merlin-linux> adhoc: my wireless is not enabled that way
<adhoc> this is why GUIs suck
<merlin-linux> adhoc: my wireless just working
<adhoc> pffffffft
<Rothbuntu> its got me quite lost :S and none seems to have a proper solution
<adhoc> wich mine did
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: i was chasing my tail for a coupla months
<adhoc> i installed NetworkManager and it was better
<adhoc> still fails completely some days
<merlin-linux> adhoc: but i do have other networking probs tho
<adhoc> needs reboot
<Rothbuntu> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-257585.html <---
<adhoc> and another
<adhoc> and another
<merlin-linux> like gnm does not show my wired option
<Rothbuntu> gnm show nothing but yet here i am O_o
* merlin-linux things gnm sucks
<Rothbuntu> yes im getting that feeling my self
<merlin-linux> cause i have to manually swap networks atm between wired and wireless
<siccness> Does anyone know a linux application that can read MS Powerpoint files?
<hysterio> ooimpress?
<siccness> other than that
<Fujitsu> That's about it, siccness.
<siccness> Damn it
<Rothbuntu> write ur own :D
<siccness> Looks like I might have to find an online one
<hysterio> pphtml
<hysterio> ppthtml
<siccness> non-existant
<hysterio> siccness: never tried it, result from an apt-cache search..
<siccness> me looks
<hysterio> it appears to convert them to html files
<Rothbuntu> =-O
<siccness> The ppthtml program will take a PowerPoint 97/95 file as input and convert it to html. The output is via standard out so it can be re-directed to files or piped to filters or used as a gateway to the internet.
<siccness> I wonder if 2000+ files work on it, hmm
<siccness> xlhtml might be a better option
<Rothbuntu> FIXED
<Rothbuntu> im using teh wiredlesness intornetz
* merlin-linux sticks on a patch
<Rothbuntu> ahhhh 1 less blue cable to fall over :-D
<Rothbuntu> now for my next whinge
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: whinges get you a poke in the ribs
<adhoc> questions often get answered ... ;)
* adhoc slurps noisily on hot coffee
<Rothbuntu> i has a iced coffee
* siccness listens to ABBA
* adhoc has a large sppon ful of honey and real coffee =D
<Rothbuntu> good lord
* adhoc bounces
<siccness> the winnnnner takes it alllllll
* adhoc puts on tubular bells
<Rothbuntu> NERO inpacket is an EVIL application
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: use mkisofs and cdrecord
<Rothbuntu> took me an hour last night to walk and old guy through uninstalling it
<Rothbuntu> had to go in to msconfig and all
<siccness> Heh
<Rothbuntu> but in the end he could play his abba cd in media centre so he was happy
<siccness> I needed to install Nero Burning ROM yesterday, i went to download it to find out that it has gone from a 20MB file to a 150MB file
* adhoc puts on his caring face for Rothbuntu
<siccness> Seriously, 150MB for a cd/dvd writing application.
<Rothbuntu> nero 6.6.0.15 for the win
<siccness> What the hell is in it? Giant 40MB .bmp image files
<Rothbuntu> yes actually
<adhoc> shirely you can't be serious!
<Rothbuntu> lol thears a few big pics in it
<siccness> tsk tsk, pathetic really.
<purserj> k3b ftw here
<merlin-linux> gnomebaker here
<adhoc> meh
<siccness> all fancy gooeys.
<Rothbuntu> whats the cd/dvd creater thats in by default
<merlin-linux> adhoc: it better than nautilus cd creator
<Rothbuntu> ahh yep that one
<siccness> merlin-linux: heh
<Rothbuntu> my sound is verry low but volume it at %100
<siccness> checked both master and pcm?
<Rothbuntu> yerp the device is set to auto detect should i set it to alsa
<Rothbuntu> hold up
<Rothbuntu> whinge whinge
<Rothbuntu> fixed O:-)
<Rothbuntu> 2 for 2 so far today
<purserj> w00t less than 12 hours before daylight savings kicks in in WA and still no patch
<adhoc> any one watch my stuff on youtoob?
<siccness> purserj: i'd say you're best to modify it yrousel
<adhoc> purserj: huh? they not in daylight savings yet?
<siccness> *yourself
<siccness> adhoc: 3rd dece
<adhoc> huh, imagine that
<purserj> siccness: thats not the point though. ubuntu devels are fond of saying "Don't modify it yourself, use the repos and only official ones at that"
<adhoc> purserj: makes support easier
<adhoc> purserj: very proprietry model tho =/
<siccness> Has anyone actually requested the W.A patch? or are the devs unaware of this?
<purserj> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/72125
<purserj> Thats the bug report
<purserj> adhoc: yeah
<purserj> I've had arguments about it before (no ld.so.conf by default, don't use /usr/local etc etc)
<Rothbuntu> ok you lazy sods im off to work catch youse later
<siccness> Bahahaha
<purserj> lazy? Right now I'm hassling ubuntu, trying to track a bug in LA's member management system amongst other things
<siccness> Importance: HIGH, can't really be that high if nothing has been done :|
* adhoc slaps Rothbuntu
<Rothbuntu> i dont know what that is but good luck
<adhoc> hey we work like slaves all week!
<purserj> Linux Australia (http://www.linux.org.au)
<Rothbuntu> i work for $15 an hour
<purserj> They only assigned it to someone yesterday
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: you get payed like slaves =(
<Rothbuntu> yeah but we get whipped for free
<Rothbuntu> OHYEAH
<adhoc> Rothbuntu: eewwww
<Rothbuntu> hahh catch yas
* adhoc looks at the crunchy bits on the bottom of the coffee cup ... BRB
<purserj> hmm coffeee might help me track this bug
* purserj rocks out to the PUSA - Turning Japanese!
<Fujitsu> Note that mdz assigned that bug to pitti two days ago, so it will likely happen in the very near future.
<purserj> Well before it happens would be nice
<Fujitsu> Of course.
* Fujitsu kicks the WA government a lot.
<Fujitsu> It was nice of them to give 2 weeks notice.
* Fujitsu looks for the equivalent Microsoft patch.
<purserj> heh, thats a whole other bitch
<Fujitsu> Aha, there it is.
<purserj> You might be better off comparing against other distro's. Gentoo already has one
<Fujitsu> Yeah...
<Fujitsu> I'm really not sure how this update will be managed... It doesn't come under any of the categories for SRUs...
<purserj> SRU?
<Fujitsu> Stable Release Update.
<purserj> It should be handled the same way the Commonwealth Games update was done
<purserj> hmm now that I remember the issues with that one, perhaps it should be handled "better" than that
<adhoc> yeah that sucked big time
* purserj remembers running around doing manual updates on linux servers
<adhoc> you know the estimated cost to roll out the commonwealth games extra daylight savings time in SA along was 2.5 million $ in over time and down time!
<Fujitsu> That was a bit too close for comfort, that update.
<adhoc> there was a report came out in july i think
<purserj> well we had a bunch of RH8 servers around the country that needed updating
<Fujitsu> purserj: Ouch.
<adhoc> and they were going to get the Vic gov to pay it ;)
<purserj> adhoc: heh good luck
<purserj> Fujitsu: yeah
<purserj> that was our sales reporting system
<adhoc> purserj: it didn't happen
<adhoc> but they are now more aware of these kinda problems...
<purserj> Basically a bunch of Database servers plugged into an excel spreadsheet
<adhoc> so why the change in WA now ?
<Fujitsu> As it is the weekend at the moment, the chances of getting the update in before Sunday are ~0
<purserj> Cos they want to be the same as everyone else?
<adhoc> oh joy
<Fujitsu> adhoc: Because the WA government is a bunch of useless, inconsiderate people?
<adhoc> anyhow,
<adhoc> Fujitsu: hehehe
<adhoc> Fujitsu: this seems to be a national trend ;)
<Fujitsu> Apparently.
<adhoc> anyhow, anyone know where i can download free to use sound samples?
<Fujitsu> I don't like it how governments can shift time around arbitrarily.
<purserj> and consider this, the various govts may be useless, but the oppositions are even more useless
<adhoc> i finally got sound working properly on my dekstop
<Fujitsu> (especially after 3? referendums in WA rejected it)
<purserj> adhoc: check out creativecommons.org
<adhoc> purserj: ta
<purserj> They should have links to various CC sound archives
<adhoc> i'd like to make some music + noise for LCA
<adhoc> not sure what for yet
<purserj> ah, you heard about FOMS?
<adhoc> but i'd like to figure out how to sequence stuff up
<merlin-linux> adhoc: thx for the ubuntu thread that you posted b4, it helped me fix my prob with /etc/network/interfaces file
<adhoc> purserj: maybe, but not really
<merlin-linux> adhoc: now my gnm is back to working properly
<adhoc> purserj: wassat?
<adhoc> is that a package?
<purserj> Its a conf being held just before LCA
<purserj> Hold on let me find the info
<adhoc> purserj: ah ok =)_
* adhoc waits for paint to dry on diassembled bicycle
<purserj> http://annodex.org/events/foms2007/
<adhoc> hmmm depends on our flights
<siccness> proj management would easily have to be the most boring-est subject of all time/
<adhoc> uh huh
<pschulz01> Hi everyone..
<hysterio> hey pshulz01
* pschulz01 wonders where hysterio hails from?
<pschulz01> hysterio: Hi there :-)
<hysterio> sydney
<pschulz01> What are you up to?
<pschulz01> It quite windy in Adelaide.
<hysterio> playing with some vm stuff, setting up a wintv-pvr-150 card
<pschulz01> cool..
<hysterio> the weather is pretty crappy in sydney - overcast, warm, muggy :(
<incon> windy in perth today
<pschulz01> How is the cricket going?
<incon> I dont watch cricket
<pschulz01> Hmm.. looking up baggygreen
<pschulz01> 3 for 355.
<pschulz01> .. back to my apache2 config.
<pschulz01> adhoc: Ping..
<siccness> 3/361
<siccness> very very boring
<siccness> england's gonna have to start doing something
<_greenie> um... does anyone know where i can get sound drivers for ubuntu for an ASUS laptop?
<pschulz01> siccness: Looks like it didn't miss a whole lot then..
<pschulz01> _greenie: Are you having problems?
<_greenie> yup
<siccness> pschulz01: yah, you've essentially missed nothing but maiden overs.
<pschulz01> _greenie: What does the command 'lspci' tell you?
<pschulz01> _greenie: also.. try the 'hwdb-gui' command.. this will let you test your hardware.
<pschulz01> _greenie: Still there?
<pschulz01> hehe.. greenie found a workaround that required a reboot.
<quail> w00t the last power outage where the UPS when flat was ---> 2:51pm up 49 days, 2:24, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<quail> s/when/went
<hysterio> quail: im guessing you have crappy power where you are?
<pschulz01> quail: So it happens often then.
<hysterio> 15:29:51 up 260 days, 1:28, 1 user, load average: 0.59, 0.45, 0.39 <--- no ups
<siccness> 15:32:01 up 23:04, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.10, 0.09
<siccness> that take for an uptime!
<pschulz01> 3:05pm up 165 days, 20:39, 3 users, load average: 1.17, 1.07, 1.01
<pschulz01> hysterio wins
* pschulz01 has no ups ether.
* siccness would like a UPS
<hysterio> i do, but i cant run all my boxes on it (only server and firewall)
<pschulz01> I'm install one at work tomorrow morning.
<pschulz01> installing
<pschulz01> scheduled downtime and everything
<Davo_Dinkum> Yo.
<cps> hi
<adhoc> siccness: have a UPS rocks
<adhoc> siccness: thanks to my UPS i have an uptime like this;
<adhoc> galactica:~# w
<adhoc> 16:39:05 up 100 days, 20:58, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<cafuego_> 17:09:29 up 439 days, 2:17, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<siccness> Yeah, I want one.
<cafuego_> !win me
<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
* adhoc put the UPS in 130 days ago ...
<cafuego_> that one ^^ isn't on a UPS afaik
<cafuego_> it does live in a climate controlled room at a private school
<adhoc> before the UPS the server was up an average ot 5 days
<MistaED> wtf 500
<adhoc> pschulz01: ACK
<adhoc> MistaED: um .... now in engllish?
<MistaED> adhoc: the cricket, poms are 6/500
<MistaED> *501
<adhoc> after two days?
<MistaED> yeah
<adhoc> whats the likely hood that they'll pip one up?
<adhoc> the guys from werk were bored out of there scones yesterday...
* MistaED shrugs
<adhoc> their'd be joy/!joy as they only have tickets for three days
<Tatey> fella's
<adhoc> hey Tatey
*** prae is now known as praetorian
<merlin-linux> wtf why is my 100MiB lan connection slower to accessing the internet than my 54MiB WiFi connection to the internet
<merlin-linux> over wifi i get ~2Mbps connection to nodes mirror and on my lan i get ~1.4Mbps from nodes mirror
<ThePizzaKing> Maybe the system's doing it on purpose so you'll ask that question
* merlin-linux wonder if i have a bottle neck somewhere that slowing lings down on the lan side
<merlin-linux> s/lings/things
<siccness> Wow, there's actually nothing on TV
<merlin-linux> hehe
<merlin-linux> siccness: drink heaps of beer and pass out
<merlin-linux> you'll be right
<merlin-linux> lmao
<siccness> merlin-linux: of course.
<siccness> Just cracked open a tooheys extra dry platinum 6.5% 345ml
<merlin-linux> kewl
<siccness> Lined up your set of coopers? :)
<merlin-linux> i am trying to work out why my lan connection is slower than my wifi connection
<siccness> Nah, night time is beer time. Not network administrating
<siccness> Is it set to 100Mbit? or 10Mbit?
<merlin-linux> and i have cleaned up my cable mess
<merlin-linux> 100MiB
<merlin-linux> it 10MiB down to the other end the house tho, but i not on that connection
<siccness> Where's the 10MBit restriction at?
* merlin-linux is on the 100MiB switch and the 54MiB wifi
<merlin-linux> the 10MiB switch hangs off my 100MiB switch
<siccness> So you're telling me that your wi-fi is more efficient than your 100MiB switch? Hahaha
<siccness> It's supposed to be the other way around :P
<merlin-linux> yeah i know
<merlin-linux> well it not the problem of the 10MiB hub connected to my 100MiB switch
<siccness> see, as a network engineer i should know how to fix this :P
<merlin-linux> hehe
* merlin-linux got a beer
<siccness> I should probably be studying, :|
<merlin-linux> siccness: you got sunday for that
<merlin-linux> good excuse not to go to church
<Hit3k> ack
<Hit3k> I lost my sheet with all my physics equations
<merlin-linux> eep
<siccness> merlin-linux: haha, church is a big no in my books.
<siccness> and secondly, yes, i have sunday to study
<siccness> but the fact is, it's about 50 power point slides i have to memorise
<siccness> and i can't even remember what i had for dinner 30mins ago
<merlin-linux> lol
<merlin-linux> ah stuffit i give up this speed problem on the lan side
<merlin-linux> i mostly on the wifi side
<siccness> Heh, ask me again once i've finished my course. :P
<merlin-linux> lol
<siccness> if I can't answer it
<siccness> than I simply don't deserve a job :P
<siccness> You guys shoulda seen how excited my Linux teacher was when I brought in my machine the other day. "No Windows? Oh you top student!" (missing words because he's english isnt great)
<merlin-linux> well one good thing came out of it all atm is i have tidied up the wired cabling
<siccness> ^I should do that with this box.
<siccness> I have 10 cables comin out the back of my box, all mingle/mangled together
<siccness> my mouse has to be horizontal for me to reach the top of my screen
<merlin-linux> i just talking about eth cabling
<merlin-linux> that all i tidied up the rest still a mess
<siccness> Hahaha
<Davo_Dinkum> Hi.
<siccness> G'day Davo_Dinkum
<merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: hiya
<siccness> I'll take a pic of my room tomorrow, merlin-linux
<Davo_Dinkum> Yay! People love me!
<siccness> Beer bottles, bourbon cans, cables, cigarettes everywhere
<merlin-linux> siccness: kewl :-)
<siccness> this room is by far worse than a homeless persons garbage collection
<merlin-linux> well you seen my mess already
<Davo_Dinkum> Ohhh give us a pic, merlin-linux.
<siccness> yea show us the pic, i ahvent seen it?
<quail> here merlin-linux's mess >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_0253a.JPG
<siccness> That's not a mess :P
<merlin-linux> it what you cat see that the bother
<merlin-linux> lol
<Davo_Dinkum> I've seen that before :P
<siccness> ive seen that before too. but i didnt realise someone would consider it a mess hence the reason why I asked to see it :P
<quail> here a damn small laptop >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_0261.JPG
<siccness> Is that you?
<Davo_Dinkum> What size is that screen?
<merlin-linux> 10"
<merlin-linux> siccness: no it not me
<merlin-linux> it a good friend of mine tho
<merlin-linux> he a windows nerd
<siccness> Ah ok
<merlin-linux> but i trying hard to get him to be a linux geek
<merlin-linux> my laptop is on the other pic you saw
*** yama_away is now known as yama
<siccness> Big MatthewV!
<merlin-linux> hiya MatthewV bloke
* noiesmo here's a quick beryl demo I just uploaded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3KTzijxt28
<Rothbuntu> AHHHHHHH what a day
<siccness> Yup, what a day mate.
* siccness sings "they had him backed up against the wall"
<Rothbuntu> O_o
<quail> here my current laptop setup >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/Screenshot02122006.png
<Davo_Dinkum> What would that 10" laptop cost?
<siccness> is that lightening real?
<merlin-linux> yes
<siccness> send me the wallpaper in the biggest size there is
<merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: it worth over 3K
<siccness> thats a straight f'ing mad pic
<Davo_Dinkum> Damn. Pity there aren't many cheap *and* small laptops.
<siccness> nevermind merlin-linux, found it :)
<Rothbuntu> how does one remove totem
<elkbuntu> is that one of the ones the size of a conventional birthday card?
<Davo_Dinkum> Hey quail they're eating quail egg on SBS right now :)
<Davo_Dinkum> Is it possible to get a cable that lets you connect PCI cards to the motherboard, instead of plugging them straight into the motherboard? Like an extension cable.
<siccness> Wah?
<purserj> no
<Davo_Dinkum> Surely there must be such a thing.
<siccness> No
<siccness> Simply because it'd defeat the purpose of the PCI slots
<purserj> ^^
<Davo_Dinkum> Don't crush my dreams :(
<Rothbuntu> make one out of old ide cables
<siccness> Your dreams are shit, Davo_Dinkum :P
<Davo_Dinkum> Waaaaaaah!
<Davo_Dinkum> siccness: And the purpose of PCI slots would be?
<merlin-linux> siccness: i can send you a few images
<siccness> merlin-linux: nah it's all good
<merlin-linux> from the same spot
<siccness> Davo_Dinkum: to allow pci cards to connect to the motherboard
<Rothbuntu> Extend a PCI Bus up to 12m Using Cat-5e Cable
<Davo_Dinkum> They would still be connecting to the motherboard.
<siccness> Davo_Dinkum: where are you going to mount a PCI card?
<siccness> or are you just going to let it hang in midair?
<Davo_Dinkum> Parallel to the motherboard. In one of those slim cases.
<siccness> and how is the motherboard going to deal with it?
<siccness> it uses the PCI Bus
<Davo_Dinkum> It just will.
<quail> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_1106.JPG
<Davo_Dinkum> That's why I need a PCI extension cable thingy.
<quail> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_1120.JPG
<quail> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_1124.JPG
<purserj> Davo_Dinkum: AFAIK there isn't an extension for PCI
<quail> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_1143.JPG
<siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Have you run out of PCI sltos?
<siccness> *slots?
<quail> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_1145.JPG
<Rothbuntu> http://www.elecdir.com/press_release/store/106/index.html
<Davo_Dinkum> siccness: No.
<merlin-linux> siccness: the southernvaleslug.org links are for you
<siccness> I saw :)
<siccness> merlin-linux: there all on google image ;)
<merlin-linux> kewl
<Davo_Dinkum> Rothbuntu: I don't need to extend it that far, just enough to turn the card 90 degrees so it is parallel with the mobo.
<siccness> :|
<merlin-linux> well that my image sharing for the night
<merlin-linux> hehe
<siccness> The conversation was killed by Davo_Dinkum.
<siccness> I say we hang him :)
<merlin-linux> hehe
<Davo_Dinkum> How did I kill it?
<merlin-linux> ask siccness
<siccness> or, dont ask siccness :)
<merlin-linux> hehe
<siccness> merlin-linux: so, i need to work out how the hell im gonna get to south australia
<merlin-linux> bus
<merlin-linux> train
* siccness hits merlin-linux
<merlin-linux> automobile
<siccness> i meant money wise
<merlin-linux> rob a bank
<siccness> done
<merlin-linux> lol
<Davo_Dinkum> Do some busking. They make a heap of money.
<siccness> I have no talent for busking
<siccness> "here, watch me type my name on a keyboard in under 2 seconds
<adhoc> buskers do make quite reasonable money ...
<siccness> "
<merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: talking from experience
<Davo_Dinkum> LOL no.
<DarkMageZ> elkbuntu, are you busy atm?
<adhoc> good ones get CDs made and sell them too
<siccness> adhoc: there's one near my joint who has a $500,000 house
<elkbuntu> DarkMageZ, not really, why?
<siccness> (warrandyte)
<adhoc> there is a guys that has been in town recently with a funkee mandolin
<adhoc> called lindsay buckland =)
<siccness> although $500,000 is a massive estimate
<adhoc> he does cools stuff and i say him sell 20 CDs in 10 minutes
<DarkMageZ> elkbuntu, i'm working on an article about Ubuntu and it needs some serious reviewing before I launch it
<elkbuntu> DarkMageZ, you know my email address?
<siccness> dcc it
<siccness> that's the way to do things
<DarkMageZ> elkbuntu, i was just going to post you the link
<elkbuntu> that works too
<elkbuntu> PM if you wish
<siccness> you know what'd be cool, if we had a weekly linux quiz
<elkbuntu> siccness, #ubuntu-trivia ;)
<elkbuntu> or were you thinking more local?
<siccness> latter, yeah
<siccness> im not a fan of the foreigners.
<siccness> (joke of course)
<siccness> but, a local one would in here would help the channel out i believe
<adhoc> siccness: especially those strange VB drinking type ones ...
<siccness> Yeah, those damn coopers bastards
<adhoc> =PO
<siccness> :P
*** Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee
<siccness> I just think having some-form of trivia would make the place more exciting, elkbuntu
<siccness> (remember the nite of the music quiz, 4hrs of fun)
<elkbuntu> lol
<siccness> this is 4hrs of me with me and quail doing a monologue
<siccness> minus one of the me's
<elkbuntu> hardly. we already knew you had mpd
<siccness> you cant make acronyms up dear
<elkbuntu> Multiple Personality Disorder
<elkbuntu> not made up, dear
<siccness> yes but it's after 5pm, anything that i dont understand is made up.
<elkbuntu> you wish
<merlin-linux> siccness: wtf
<siccness> ;-)
<elkbuntu> merlin-linux, he's picking fights to be entertaining. isnt it obvious ;)
<siccness> I'm not picking fights. I was merely showing that only merlin-linux and I talk :)
* Kamping_Kaiser hugs randomly, might bbl
<siccness> Hahaha
<elkbuntu> i can see adhoc, Kamping_Kaiser and DarkMageZ in scrollback :Þ
<siccness> of course you get Kamping_Kaiser and Fujitsu with their random comments ;)
<elkbuntu> well yes. they have to serve some purpose
<siccness> Heheh
<merlin-linux> hehe
<elkbuntu> siccness, if you want entertainment, try convince Fujitsu of the benefits of RPMs :)
<DarkMageZ> lol
<elkbuntu> even if you have to make stuff up
<elkbuntu> he'll still bite :)
<siccness> Of course, it's after 5pm
<DarkMageZ> i think the lashback from that would be worse than the current state of my article
<elkbuntu> DarkMageZ, and i'll get around to reading that as soon as siccness is finished being entertained by me
<DarkMageZ> :P
<siccness> Oh but you can't stop half-way through can you? :P
<siccness> I've got 3hrs left before i crash to bed
* elkbuntu puts DarkMageZ between herself and siccness and goes 'LOOK! NEW FRIEND!' and runs away
<siccness> lol
<DarkMageZ> :P
<siccness> elkbuntu: just lettin you know i wont be here for monday's meeting
<elkbuntu> ok, no probs. you can always comment when the summary hits the list
*** Davo_Dinkum is now known as Davo_Dinkum_away
<siccness> so someone else will have to prepare the topic 30mins prior to the meeting
<siccness> :)
<elkbuntu> lol
* merlin-linux things he might watch disk 4 of season 1 of scrubs
<siccness> mad show
<merlin-linux> yeah well there nothing else on tv
<merlin-linux> so i may as well thrash the dvd player again
<siccness> Heheh
<siccness> Dr Cox is my hero
*** WikiMan is now known as MatthewV
<adhoc> those medical response serials are such a drag ...
<adhoc> i mean M*A*S*H was the pinicle ...
<merlin-linux> adhoc: mash was great
<siccness> mash sucked
<adhoc> i never said it was good, just it was the pinicle and its been all downhill since then
* merlin-linux slaps siccness for the profanity
<adhoc> it was ok
<adhoc> i'm not sure which characters worked for me, but the dynamic was good
<merlin-linux> adhoc: you like the X-Files
<purserj> siccness: you have no taste
<purserj> MASH was classic
<siccness> Nah, MASH was shit
<adhoc> merlin-linux: i did in the begining but the story petered out...
<adhoc> MASH went on for 11 years
<merlin-linux> adhoc: i have to agree with you there
<siccness> 11 years of nothing, really.
<siccness> It had a few good laughs here and there
* merlin-linux slaps siccness for the profanity
<siccness> but by no means would I consider it "classic"
<adhoc> siccness: perhaps you are too young to appreciate the "era"
<siccness> Possibly so.
<adhoc> siccness: those were strange times
<adhoc> rampant pro-war and anti-war stuff
<siccness> Oh I'm quite aware of that, obviously not being able to experiece the years puts me in for a disadvantage to understand the show.
<merlin-linux> siccness: and you had to make the best of a bad situation the best you could
<adhoc> siccness: consider it what we would call today a "black comedy"
<adhoc> any how
<adhoc> is there anything on tele worth watching now'a'days?
<siccness> Shit no.
<siccness> Not a damn thing.
<adhoc> ok
<siccness> Television today is basically a game-show in your mind.
<merlin-linux> adhoc: what siccness just said
<siccness> You will never win.
* Hobbsee wonders if anyone's in adelaide this week
<adhoc> so cheap DVD shelf in kmart looks like the go then huh ?
<siccness> Nope.
<adhoc> Hobbsee: all week ;)
<merlin-linux> someone send me a ciggie please
<siccness> <--got a deck here
<adhoc> siccness: big-w
<merlin-linux> cancel that request i not want it now
* adhoc sends merlin-linux choc chip cookies
<elkbuntu> merlin-linux, 'apt-get install nicotine' ;)
<adhoc> apt-get --purge remove craving
<elkbuntu> lol
<merlin-linux> damn going cold turkey
<adhoc> merlin-linux: snort cocacola instead
<adhoc> it'll keep you distracted for a while
* merlin-linux might go in the back room and clean up the electronics desk
<siccness> is it sad that im listening to ABBA?
<siccness> or pathetic?
<merlin-linux> both
<siccness> agreed.
<merlin-linux> lmao
<siccness> rm abba*.mp3 :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> :(
<merlin-linux> rm -rf abba*.mp3
<siccness> What's the matter big K?
<siccness> nah, i need the prompting, merlin-linux
* Kamping_Kaiser hugs his abba oggs
<siccness> They're not that bad :P
<siccness> 'The Winner Takes It All' is actually quite a good song.
<Hobbsee> adhoc: just you and Kamping_Kaiser then?
* merlin-linux wonders if siccness would mind if he slap him around for a bit
<Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, pschulz01 lucychili and a few otehrs
<Hobbsee> AHH
<Hobbsee> oops, capslog
<siccness> What's this for, if you don't mind me asking?
<Hobbsee> *capslock
<purserj> oh god "George and Mildred" is on
<siccness> purserj: that's the stupid 70s/80s show yea
<siccness> ?
<purserj> Yeah, why don't they put "Porridge" or "Open All Hours" on
<siccness> Heh
<siccness> they had the old bell show before
<siccness> the fashion one
<siccness> (clothes shop)
<siccness> i can never remember the name of it
<purserj> Are You Being Served
<siccness> Yup
<siccness> that's the one
<purserj> Well on the plus side they have the Benny Hill Show
<siccness> that's the one they're always at the bar doin nothin?
<adhoc> Hobbsee: and merlin-linux and lucychili
<adhoc> Hobbsee: oh yeah and pschulz01
<adhoc> purserj: how about a spot of Blakes7
<Hobbsee> ah
<purserj> Karin has the entire 1999 collection
<adhoc> Hobbsee: there are more too, but not regulats
<siccness> whooooaaaaa, we're halfway there, whoooooaa
<adhoc> purserj: of?
<purserj> of 1999
<Hobbsee> adhoc: ahh
<purserj> Space 1999
<adhoc> purserj: wossat?
<purserj> oh dear
* MotherLUG is showing her age now :D
<siccness> MotherLUG: Can't win every battle :)
<purserj> adhoc: Moon Base Alpha?
<adhoc> MotherLUG: you see the moonlanding "live"
<cps> it's thunderbirds but with real people
<purserj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_1999
<purserj> cps: exactly considering the same people made Space 1999 as Thunderbirds
<siccness> adhoc: you mean the stage with the moving flag?
<purserj> no she didn't
<adhoc> then shes not old ;)
<purserj> she missed it by two years
<adhoc> =)
<siccness> What does everyone think of space exploration?
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, plenty to go around
<adhoc> siccness: which space?
<siccness> sigh :)
<siccness> Do you feel as if we're doing the right thing by spending billions of dollars heading to Mars and back?
<cps> it's awe inspiring
<adhoc> siccness: the space between your ears or between here and the moon or ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> cps, yes, but not very practical
<siccness> adhoc: well the former is clearly true.
<siccness> but considering you're from south australia, i rest my case :P
* siccness runs
<cps> well those billions of dollars stimulate the development of all kinds of technologies
<adhoc> siccness: theres plenty of problems to solve on earth before spreading the disease that is humanity into space
<siccness> That's what i wanted to hear.
<Kamping_Kaiser> cps, yes, but tehy could also feed billions of people
<cps> as if it would be spent on that though
<adhoc> cps: but only for the benifit of large multinationals
<cps> it's not like they are sitting there with billions in cash going: hmm, we could solve world hunger or...
<adhoc> cps: there are plenty of useful things the could do useful research on
<adhoc> cps: they could solve world hunger with a coupla billion
<purserj> I think of Space Travel as building redundancy
<adhoc> cps: but do they?
<purserj> adhoc: they could solve world hunger right now
<siccness> i think if we're going to spend a large mass of money on going to space, we might as well do it properly. Let's build a rocketship that goes almost as quick as speed as light and send them to explore other areas.
<adhoc> purserj: thats a good idea, move all the americans to mars, closer to the sun
<siccness> and then build me a car that goes just as quick
<adhoc> and rocket assist it to get even closer
<siccness> I want .0000000001 down the 400m
<cps> well 40 years after the space race and the US takes out all the nobel prizes
<purserj> Seriously we have the technology and capacity right now, without taking money out of space exploration t feed the world
<siccness> yes but solving world hunger isn't a simple case of "here's x amount of money, buy some food"
<adhoc> siccness: true
<cps> I don't think the comparatively tiny amount of money spent on space exploration is what is holding back solutions to world hunger
<purserj> siccness: nope it isn't its a matter of selling the food at prices third world countries can afford
<siccness> world hunger is often caused by other issues
<adhoc> cps: no thats whats called "imbalance of trade"
<siccness> eg: retarded dictators
<adhoc> siccness: americans
<cps> actually handing out food is a really bad thing to do, because then the local farmers can't compete
<purserj> adhoc: not always
<purserj> americans do suck the big one
<siccness> adhoc: Heh, im trying to keep it as polite as possible :P
<purserj> in terms of foriegn policy
<purserj> however you cannot blame americans for every tinpot dictator
<siccness> personally, i'd like to see Australia deal with our issues first. Rather than spending money on other countries.
<siccness> Selfish, sure, but I don't care.
<adhoc> lets face it, america is the greediest lot and they have the money to get what they want
<cps> we do live in the world though, you can't just bury your head in the sand
<purserj> adhoc: just wait until china gets into full swing
<adhoc> an if they don't get what they want they sned troops in and bomb the crap outa everything
<purserj> Their middle class is already the size of the entire US population
<siccness> Well I'm not entirely against the war.
<adhoc> purserj: true
<purserj> China scares me more than the US
<purserj> At least the US can change direction every now and then
<siccness> Middle-East scare me more.
<siccness> Too many of them misinterpret their religion
<purserj> Middle-East wouldn't be such an issue if we weren't so reliant on Oil
<siccness> purserj: we don't really have that much of a choice tho
<purserj> siccness: yes we do
<purserj> we have the choice to develop the alternates to Oil
<siccness> Sure, but that's not an overnight job.
<purserj> Right now we are choosing to say "We've got tonnes of the stuff in the ground, lets use it all up before we do anything else"
<adhoc> siccness: no thats a 3-5 year job
<adhoc> that should have started in the 70's
<purserj> Well it depends.
<adhoc> purserj: cut the crap
* merlin-linux is cooking some lamb chops
<adhoc> if the gubmint mandates all cars to be electric by 2009
<adhoc> then the car manufactures have to do it
<adhoc> then put in place very strict emmisions laws
<adhoc> and all the unmaintained vehicles get unreaodworthied over the next 10 years
<adhoc> change the licencing scheme
<cps> but where does the electricity come from to run the cars?
<adhoc> put in programs for replacing vehicles or upgrading engines
*** Davo_Dinkum_away is now known as Davo_Dinkum
<adhoc> cps: anything but coal or nuclear
<adhoc> australia has massive reserves of natural gas
<cps> so that means we have to replace all our coal power plants too
<adhoc> but we export most of it to china
<adhoc> cps: they are pretty much all due for replacement soon anyways
<cps> yeah probably with nice new coal ones
<adhoc> if the government had any backbone
<adhoc> they could put is a massively clean policy
<adhoc> and remove all dependance on middle east oil in under ten years
<siccness> or just move to mars? :P
* adhoc sends siccness to mars
<siccness> You won't even get me close enough to an airport let alone a shuttle-joint.
<cps> at least not with a bottle of water
<purserj> adhoc: with regards to government mandate
<purserj> of course
<purserj> The problem is the government doesn't want to mandate it
<MatthewV> adhoc, what's wrong with nuclear
<MatthewV> ?
<purserj> Nuclear involves large amounts of highly radioactive waste that no one wants
<MatthewV> purserj, one nuclear plant producing an equiv amount of energy to a coal fired plant produces around 1/30000 the amount of waste
<purserj> Right, so where do you put it?
<MatthewV> underground?
<MatthewV> send it to <insert dictator here> in a weapon ;)
<purserj> No one wants it
<MatthewV> and if viable fusion plants are produced, we'll have a utopian energy source ;)
<purserj> there is no such thing as a wasteless energy source
<siccness> C'mon baby MAKE IT HURT SO GOOD
<cps> fusion still produces radioactive waste, but in much smaller quantities
<pufuwozu> Who wants radioactive waste around for hundreds of thousands of years?
<siccness> Doesn't bother me
<MatthewV> cps, a viable fusion reactor will produce practically no nuclear waste
<pufuwozu> Most likely humans would have died out but we'd still leave a horrible mess
<cps> we just have to dig a really deep hole in the ground
<pufuwozu> Oh that's the solution
<MatthewV> Tritium + Deuterium --> Helium-5 + Energy!
<siccness> cps: i got just the man for the job
<siccness> Harry Stamper
<cps> ha ha
<cps> Bruce Willis saves the day again
<siccness> Yup
<siccness> My man Willis
* MatthewV gets bored and goes to have a shower ;)
<siccness> He's crazier than Sadam and that other dude that hasnt been caught yet put together
<siccness> "yippie-kai-yay-*beep*"
<merlin-linux> is siccness watch die hard
<siccness> Of course.
<siccness> Die Hard is clearly one of the best *modern* action films.
<merlin-linux> i been cooking lamb chops
<siccness> I'm not a fan.
<siccness> Sure, I love lamp. But chops usually have the image of "little meat, lot of bone, expensive pricetag"
<siccness> *lamb
<merlin-linux> no
<siccness> lol, you've convinced me merlin-linux :P
<merlin-linux> ones i get always ways got lot of meat
<adhoc> siccness: Die Hard was definitely one of the worst action movies, period.
<merlin-linux> and yes there bone there too
<cps> probably mutton
<siccness> adhoc: you're clearly wrong.
<purserj> Die Hard was Okay, Die Hard With A Vengeance was better
<siccness> and no, you're not right. but actually wrong.
<merlin-linux> cps: no it not mutton
<siccness> :)
<purserj> w00t subjective views taken as gospel
<siccness> purserj: you're looking at them differently
<adhoc> die hard with a just another washed up action heros in just anther remake of the same damn boring hollywood storyline
<cps> but it had Bruce Willis
<siccness> #3 = Action with more of a light-side to it
<siccness> #1 = Action
<siccness> #2 = Basically shit
<purserj> siccness: without the light side, action is boring
<purserj> This is something that Willis learnex
<siccness> You could compare it somewhat to Kurosawa's trilogy
<siccness> purserj: I disagree. The light side is good, yes, but what I want from an action film is action. Jokes are fine, but the jokes are to occuring than it becomes a light-side.
<siccness> which then loses focus on the action itself
<siccness> which often results in corny-1-liners.
<adhoc> siccness: the whole era in film was corny one liners
<adhoc> and short action heroes
<siccness> The problem with film today is that everyone decides that a Hollywood blockbuster is what everyone wants.
<siccness> They hasn't really been too much that has come out this year that has been worthwhile watching.
<siccness> The last brilliant film I saw was in 2002, "Cidade de Deus"
<cps> they do love making sequels
<siccness> actualtests.com are stupid. You can download all their files without paying a cent.
<siccness> maybe they should read some of their study guides to learn how to secure.
<cps> they would but they were crushed under a ton of irony
<siccness> Heh
<cps> I think they need some web design training myself
<siccness> Heh
<siccness> I did score some nice tests of them :)
<siccness> except the tests are in a relatively stupid manner where the answers are directly under the questions, so you accidently see them
<cps> yeah that does sound a bit dumb
<Davo_Dinkum> Hey siccness what DDR ram you reckon I should get for my Socket 754 mobo?
<adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: big fast ones ;)
<siccness> DDR1, Davo_Dinkum
<adhoc> DDR400
<adhoc> ?
* merlin-linux had his lamb chops and now time for more beer
<siccness> adhoc: Yeah, DDR400/PC3200
* adhoc currently has 5% in use by programs and 5% in use by cache ...
<siccness> AMD Socket AM2 uses DDR2
<merlin-linux> siccness: how the beer flowing
<siccness> Too easily I think :)
<merlin-linux> :-P
<merlin-linux> i might have a real heart starter tomorrow for breakfast
<siccness> snags, bacon, eggs :)
<purserj> hmmmm
<merlin-linux> bake beans, couple eggs, bacon and toast
<siccness> bake beans are no good
<merlin-linux> after the bake beans i will be able to fly to your place siccness
<merlin-linux> lmao
<siccness> haha
<siccness> the eggs and bacon will probably be the "heart killer"
<Davo_Dinkum> Eggs have good cholestrol.
<purserj> only if you have them meal in meal out
<merlin-linux> i got no snags so that out the question
<siccness> who has a house without snags?
<Davo_Dinkum> Who in Melbourne has a Socket 754 motherboard they want to sell to me?
<merlin-linux> forgot to get them on friday when went shopping
<siccness> You can get Socket 754 anywhere
<merlin-linux> well not forgot them, i didn't want to wait at the butches
*** hantoo is now known as hantu
* adhoc drags lucychili to bed ...
<adhoc> need sleep
<purserj> good thing you clarified
<purserj> its a family friendly channel you know
<elkbuntu> lol
<Kamping_Kaiser> tmi purserj
<purserj> don't blame me cos your mind is attracted to depraved thoughts
<Kamping_Kaiser> attracted? you forced them apon me!
<Kamping_Kaiser> (the depraved thoughts....)
<purserj> I blame adhoc
<Kamping_Kaiser> very diplomatic
<elkbuntu> well in truth, it was his fault
<elkbuntu> he *did* start it ;)
* Kamping_Kaiser hugs elkbuntu
* elkbuntu hugs Kamping_Kaiser back
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> yay
* siccness shakes his head
* elkbuntu hugs siccness as well
* Kamping_Kaiser grumbles
<siccness> nah I shook my head in hoping that the drunkness would shake off as well
<elkbuntu> ah, right
<hantu> hi K, sicc, elk :)
<elkbuntu> hi hantu :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> hi hantu
<siccness> hey hantu
<elkbuntu> is there something cool and exciting im missing out on? everywhere is dead tonight
<Kamping_Kaiser> meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<elkbuntu> o.O
* elkbuntu takes the alcohol away from Kamping_Kaiser
<Kamping_Kaiser> :(
<Kamping_Kaiser> but... but.....
* elkbuntu gives it back
* Kamping_Kaiser huggles elkbuntu
<elkbuntu> hehehe
* elkbuntu huggles Kamping_Kaiser
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> do you like canadian club whisky?
<elkbuntu> yep
<elkbuntu> i prefer it and irish whiskey over bourbon, actually
<klepas> Hong Kong people have strange drinking habits
<elkbuntu> scotch comes in after bourbon
* Kamping_Kaiser offers a glass, bottle and lemondaide
<klepas> Kamping_Kaiser: can i have some 'lemondaide' too?
<Tatey> beer
<klepas> hey Tatey!
<Kamping_Kaiser> klepas, well....
<Kamping_Kaiser> depends what *you* mean by lemonaide :|
<klepas> 22:31:52 <-- look at that
<Kamping_Kaiser> wow. now what? :)
<klepas> lol
<klepas> you invented it
<Kamping_Kaiser> wtf?
* Kamping_Kaiser 's brain explodes
* elkbuntu is now listening to: Kenny Rogers - The Gambler [2:30/3:29 (71%)] [128 kbit/s]
<Kamping_Kaiser> save me elkbuntu :( hes mesign my brain around
<klepas> 22:31:52 * Kamping_Kaiser offers a glass, bottle and lemondaide <--'lemondaide'
<klepas> joke is over
<klepas> nevermind :P
* Kamping_Kaiser flail
<siccness> beer > bourbon > *
<Tatey> hi klepas
<klepas> bailey's ftw
<Tatey> I'm off fella's. Later
<elkbuntu> kahlua > baileys
<siccness> Night Tatey
<siccness> kahlua sucks
<Kamping_Kaiser> later Tatey
<Kamping_Kaiser> you bunch of alcos - discussing drinks after the kids are in bed :P
<elkbuntu> you're the one that started crying when i confiscated your alcohol.
<Kamping_Kaiser> welll, its a mean thing to do
<siccness> elkbuntu: yea but you can't take alcohol away from someone
* flaccid smokes a bjongolme
<siccness> that's like me taking shoes away from a female
<elkbuntu> you can take my shoes. they smell a little though
<siccness> ill put em up on ebay
<klepas> siccness meant make-up
<siccness> i need to fund my next alcohol purchase
<klepas> wait
<klepas> s/make-up/money
<klepas> :P
<flaccid> go buy some crack
<elkbuntu> flaccid, drugs are evil, mmkay
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, coffee is a drug (well, cafine)
<hantu> yeah drugs are evil!
* hantu takes a sip of his coffee
<klepas> caffeine is a drug
<flaccid> lots of this world is evil
<klepas> caffeine is not evil
<flaccid> one could argue the majority
<siccness> actually, 99.9% of the stuff we eat/drink have a drug in them
<hantu> polonium?
<flaccid> a drug is simply a chemical that alters the mind
<hantu> or however you spell it.
<hantu> :D
<hantu> flaccid: women!
* hantu ducks.
<hantu> jk ^^
<siccness> Hahahahaha
<siccness> Classic
<flaccid> "my house is better than any alcohol or afrodesiac"
<siccness> your house sucks
<siccness> :P
<flaccid> its quite nice actually
<siccness> Single-story?
<siccness> I hate double-story
<siccness> Too hard to get up and down
<elkbuntu> flaccid, a drug is anything that changes how cells behave
<flaccid> double
<flaccid> and ultmately the mind elk
<siccness> if i have a double story, it'll be a ramp
<elkbuntu> not necissarily
<flaccid> i'd love to know a drug that alters the body and not the mind
<flaccid> i don't know if its possibly
<siccness> the mind doesn't exist
<flaccid> sounds good to me
<siccness> i can start throwin quotes left right and center from philosophers about their mind/body, but big sicc needs his sleep.
<Kamping_Kaiser> mine doestn. to many slabs
<siccness> G'night all!
<Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
<flaccid> i guess i'm watching rage
<klepas> wish i could watch that right about now
<flaccid> elvis costello on atm
<flaccid> heh
<flaccid> my wireless dialup is boostin
<flaccid> heh
<purserj> hmm a flash upgrade
<purserj> I thought Flash 9 was still in Beta
<purana> none of these alternate xubuntu and ubuntu 6.10 isos work with my sata onboard
<purana> all fail to boot after install
<purana> oh well
<purana> that should be done work
<purana> dont even
<purana> grr
<cafuego_> purserj: it is, but it seems to already work better then flash7 stable.
<purserj> hmm, how much are wii's
<cafuego_> me knoweth not
* purserj has just watched the wii movie for Call Of Duty 3
* cafuego_ will make some wii for you and ship it over
<purserj> nah I can make my own wii
<adhoc> speaking of wii
<adhoc> purserj: do you know if there is a version 2 of the gp2x ?
<purserj> I'll have a look for you. Haven't heard anything from the guys who sent us the last one
<adhoc> i'm sitting here thinking about the (second) review you did on it
<purserj> heh the first one doth suck mightily
<adhoc> i never got to hear it though
<adhoc> so i'll say nawt
<lucychili> who has prior art for wii
<adhoc> lucychili: thats a fetish you want to give a wide birth ...
<lucychili> i think thats berth blossom
<lucychili> and youre right topic driopped
* adhoc puts knife to unknown how cooked egg ...
<adhoc> puuuuuuuuuuurfect
<purserj> topic dripped?
<adhoc> dropped
<adhoc> wow, that was so tasty =)
<lucychili> i was meaning copyright on wii surely has prior art
<lucychili> anyway
<lucychili> yep eggs were good
<purserj> hmm how would you remotely control an X Session
<lucychili> coffee with icecream and honey is mega sweet and yummy
<lucychili> and my joomla is a borked beasty
<adhoc> x2x
<adhoc> or x2vnc, if you are feeling brave enough to 'posses' a doze box ;)
<purserj> hmm I'll have a look x2x
<adhoc> purserj: you need to setup the 'remote' box to accept X connections
<adhoc> have a look at your gdm.conf
<adhoc> and allow TCP connections...
<adhoc> then you have to set xhost to allow connections from the incoming X host
<adhoc> ie; MotherLUG@MotherLUG-dekstop$ xhost purserj-desktop
<adhoc> once you've done that you might like to work on the environment variables ...
<adhoc> export DISPLAY=MotherLUG-dekstop:0.0
<adhoc> aterm -fg white -bg yellow
<adhoc> there is also a fullscreen option
<adhoc> but i can't remember what it is...
<adhoc> good for late night waking up of "remote users"
<adhoc> not untraceable, but worth while
<purserj> heh
<purserj> right I think I've been looking at this the wrong way round. So the clients would be the "remote host"
<adhoc> from purserj-desktop, you can x2x to a remote desktop, say, MotherLUG-dekstop
<adhoc> from purserj-desktop, you can control the X input (keyboard+mouse) of MotherLUG-dekstop
<purserj> hmm cool
<adhoc> x2x -to MotherLUG-dekstop:0.0 -east
<adhoc> purserj: so if you had two peecees you'd like to "control"
<MotherLUG> adhoc, what are you teaching him to do to my desktop?
<adhoc> the one on the left; x2x -to MotherLUG-dekstop:0.0 -west
<adhoc> MotherLUG: purely using your nick as an example ....
<MotherLUG> ahh good
<adhoc> MotherLUG: um ... ease of maintenance ...
<adhoc> erm ..
<lucychili> heh
<adhoc> purserj: so the peecee on the right; x2x -to spratski-dekstop:0.0 -east
* lucychili suggests motherlug keeps sunglasses handy when logging on
<adhoc> purserj: then you can load ballance your GUI across three peecees ;)
<lucychili> adhoc is not blackhat but has been known to be outrageously yellowhat
<MotherLUG> lucychili, might be a better idea to warn adhoc and purserj
<lucychili> heh
* adhoc runs away to make tea and biscuits
* purserj needs to learn more about X
* lucychili has a quiet talk to mlug about printerdialogues and desktop prefs
<adhoc> oh yeah
<adhoc> hey purserj do you have a networked laser printer?
<adhoc> MotherLUG: do you need to tease the kids in more insteresting ways?
<MotherLUG> sure
<lucychili> imagine a printer
<lucychili> which can respond with, have you asked whether you can use the colour printer
<lucychili> etc
<purserj> hmm
<lucychili> basically any custom response in the printer active ready window
<MotherLUG> ahh
<adhoc> shall i tell 'em?
<lucychili> i heard a rumor this was used in a psych dept of a uni with good effect
<purserj> Someone installled Dr Sam on a printer?
<adhoc> can i
<adhoc> can i
<adhoc> ?
<lucychili> basicallu purserj yes
<purserj> nasty
<lucychili> the person printing was found hugging the printer
<adhoc> ok, once upong a time
<adhoc> there was a programmer/sysadmin
<adhoc> in a uni far far away
<lucychili> tertiary education is a brutal thing
<adhoc> from the desk of the sysadmin, he could see through the window in door to the office
<adhoc> into the postgrad room across the hallway
<adhoc> times were good in this uni and masters students were plentiful
<adhoc> there was a great variety in the types of students as one could imagine...
<flaccid> if only lecturers at unis knew web standards
<adhoc> anyhow, there were a couple of students that made our young sysadmin quite cross
<adhoc> some made great claims on the time and resources of our young sysadmin
<adhoc> so, in response to the unreasonable demands
<adhoc> there was developed a tool to 'manage' the print queue of the laser printer
<adhoc> across the hallway in the postgrad room
<incon> western australia daylight saving patch ?
<adhoc> one postgrad in particular was sneaking into the labs and making std calls on staff phones, etc
<flaccid> which uni is this
<adhoc> flaccid: an imaginary one
<flaccid> oh sweet
<flaccid> can i be in it?
<adhoc> flaccid: is the moral of the story that matters
<adhoc> flaccid: sure
<flaccid> there is a moral?
<adhoc> flaccid, there will be, let me finish
<flaccid> ok im a degree coordinator then
<flaccid> ok
<adhoc> flaccid was a postgrad student
<adhoc> that sat next to the laser printer in the postrad room
<adhoc> flaccid did not put unreasonable demans on our young sysadmin
<adhoc> flaccids print jobs came through without any 'delays'
* purserj is reading between trying to figure out this x2x stuffs
<adhoc> anyhow, a particular postgrad made an arse of himself one day and our young sysadmin put the print jobs on hold
<adhoc> then would release one page at a tikme
<adhoc> eventually the 200 page document came through
<adhoc> in between a number of other jobs
<adhoc> at some point in time, while our young sysadmin was coding up some java to interface to all the network printers on campus
<adhoc> there was a function call discovered to change the LCD message on the front of the printers ...
<purana> ubuntu installer doesn't seem to handle my sata drives well
<purana> :(
<adhoc> purserj: especially if you want to boot off one when there is a PATA drive inthere too =/
<adhoc> anyhow, said sysadmin, while coding up the new printer management tool,
<adhoc> put together some new features
<adhoc> print page and change LCD message
<adhoc> "Ready"
<adhoc> "leave me alone"
<adhoc> "Ready", print
<adhoc> so after a weeks testing
<adhoc> the difficult student can back in to do some printing...
<adhoc> so, "Ready", print(), pause()
<adhoc> purserj: you still with me?
<purserj> yup
<adhoc> so over the next hour said difficult student receives one page at a time
<adhoc> with the laser printers messages changing
<adhoc> "leave me alone"
<adhoc> "Are you done yet"
<adhoc> "kill them all"
<adhoc> etc
<purserj> heh
<adhoc> so, at which point our dipolar printer says
<adhoc> "fondle me"
<adhoc> the student looks around the room
<adhoc> strokes the top of the printer
<adhoc> print()
<adhoc> "again"
<adhoc> the student is nervous now
<adhoc> touchs the lcd area
<adhoc> print()
<adhoc> anyhow, this goes on for about ten minutes,
* purserj is enjoying hearing about justice
<adhoc> the head of department walks in to find said difficult student with both arms around the printer singing to it, while its printing as fast as it can go ...
<purserj> oh dear
<purserj> :)
<adhoc> luckily flaccid went for a coffee
<adhoc> when all this was happening
<adhoc> other wise it would have made for a strange site
<adhoc> s/site/sight
<adhoc> the difficult student never bothered our young sysadmin ever again.
<adhoc> then end

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