<aeon17x> Song alert: Tuliro by Sponge Cola

<aeon17x> Katono niya iyung 'lonely, I am so lonely'

<str0ng> gud morning all :)

<Jucato> magandang morning!

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<yolynne> http://www.asymptopia.org/

<Jucato> rjian: nagsasayaw ka nanaman :)

<rjian> Jucato: nope im just config my PSYBNC :p

<Jucato> aaah...

<rjian> pra khit d me online and2 parin nick ko..

* Jucato pretends he knows what that is

<Jucato> ngek

<rjian> ahihi

<rjian> !define psybnc

<yolynne> rjian: did u register na for the exchange grant?

<butiki> No idea, rjian.

<Jucato> !dict psybnc

<butiki> Jucato: No definition for "psybnc" could be found.

<rjian> ahihi

<Jucato> nvm...

<yolynne> si google na lang

<rjian> @google psybnc

<butiki> rjian: Search took 0.24 seconds: psybnc .net - instant account activation provider: <http://www.psybnc.net/>; download psybnc .tar.gz: <http://www.psybnc.net/download.php>; Official psyBNC Support HomePage. Welcome on http://www. psybnc .info: <http://www.psybnc.at/>; psyBNC Download Page. - Download here the latest official release ...: <http://www.psybnc.at/download.html>; psyBNC - An Introduction to psyBNC (2 more messages)

<Jucato> lol.. very helpful :)

<rjian> yolynne: ala pa me nagreg doon lng sa indo.. try ko lng

<yolynne> rjian: down sila ngayon.. try mo later..

<rjian> Jucato: yan basahin mo heheh

<Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PsyBNC

<rjian> yolynne: back na me d2 sa akin

<Jucato> ay wala pala yan bwahaha

<rjian> ahihi

* Jucato gets back to Google-ing in Yahoo

<yolynne> Jucato: psst.. anong reply nang kabit ko?

<rjian> !define psybnc

<butiki> I have no idea.

<Jucato> screened ang mga tanong... hindi nakapasok yung sakin

<Jucato> :)

* rjian hmmm

<Jucato> may gusto rin magpropose kagabi eh

<yolynne> Jucato: hahhaha..

<yolynne> ay talaga

<yolynne> wow naman

<Jucato> oo nga eh. aagawan ka pa

<yolynne> pihikan yan...

* rjian bz me for a months nick park na lng :p

<yolynne> yolynne: baka fafa hahahha.. fafa cologne

<Jucato> hahah :)

<Jucato> rjian: ano pagkakaabalahan mo? a month? aabot ng pasko?

<yolynne> rjian: will be posting some article baka next week on the site.. kindly remind me lang

<yolynne> Jucato: busy sa kanyang student career

<str0ng> oi... isali nyo naman ko dyan sa pinagkakabalahan nyo hehehe

<Jucato> aba :)

<yolynne> ako me business

<Jucato> rjian: may meeting mamayang gabi ha

<yolynne> sale ka

<yolynne> heheh

<Jucato> ako... may labada :)

<yolynne> Jucato: buti yan.. nang maalis yang pwet mo sa upuan

<yolynne> yolynne: parang plantsa na yata yan sa init eh

<Jucato> bwahaha bukas pa po :)

<yolynne> ay mali

<Jucato> aba natutulog at kumakain din naman ako :)

<Jucato> saka pumupunta ng banyo :P

<yolynne> hahha..

<yolynne> nasobrahan ang pagka goodboy mo

<str0ng> Jucato, natutulog ang kumakain.. habang naka upo sa harap nang computer?

<Jucato> whahaha

<rjian> Jucato: anong agenda mamaya?

<yolynne> Jucato: wag mong sabihin na ang mga babae na ang umaakyat nang ligaw

<yolynne> Jucato: over ka na

<Jucato> hahahah

<Jucato> rjian: wala pa :)

<str0ng> yolynne, uso na seguro yan ngayon heheeheh

<yolynne> rjian: kindly post ur suggestion on the suggestedtopics in the wiki

<yolynne> str0ng: sabagay.. ako din ang dumiga para mapasagot asawa ko

<str0ng> ngeks ahahaahaha

<yolynne> str0ng: nahirapan ako dun ha...

<yolynne> hahhahaha

<str0ng> waaaaa...

<Jucato> wala pa namang nanliligaw sakin eh... bwahaha

<str0ng> sa ganda mong yan?

* Jucato is not schoolboy/student/neil

<str0ng> sobra lang segurong gwapo yung asawa mo :)

<rjian> yolynne: ah ok

<yolynne> str0ng: sinong maganda? ako o si Jucato.. ahhh ikaw ha..type mo si Jucato

<str0ng> hahahaah

<str0ng> syempre.. ikaw..

<Jucato> bwahahaha

<str0ng> di ko pa nakikita si Jucato

<yolynne> si rjian me nobya na yan..

<str0ng> hehehe..

<Jucato> http://jucato.org/

<yolynne> wag nyo nang pakialaman

* rjian aw

<str0ng> hahaha

<yolynne> uso naman ngayon ang "life parters" heheheh

<Jucato> :))

<str0ng> ngayon ko pa nalaman.. kong ano ang ibig sabihin nang Jucato

<yolynne> http://www.asymptopia.org/

<yolynne> take a look a this

<yolynne> its cool

<yolynne> me scrabble na

<str0ng> yolynne, uso na rin ang.. no commitment partners heehhe

<yolynne> rjian: psst punta ka nang ateneo fiesta?

<str0ng> ang pogi pala ni jucato hheeheh

<Jucato> bwahaha

<str0ng> bigotilyo..

<str0ng> parang si Bong revilla

<yolynne> str0ng: dapat lang... grabe yang umubos nang milk.

<Jucato> uy buti napaalala mo... kelangang mag-ahit

<str0ng> with a combo of Mark Bautista

<Jucato> bwahaha!

<str0ng> hehe

<str0ng> Bong Revilla + Mark Bautista = Jucato

<Jucato> str0ng: you should have seen my high school pic... mas kamukha ko sya noon :P

<str0ng> hahahahaahahaha

<yolynne> aba feeling

<Jucato> hindi ah. seryoso yun! hehehe

<yolynne> baka Bong Revilla + Mark Bautista = Bugbog sarado..

<str0ng> HAHAHAHA

<yolynne> teka... tama na,, me seminar pa kami

<str0ng> Bugbog sarada.... sa tsiks.. hahah

<Jucato> lol

<yolynne> sobra na... I'm getting addicted again to chat

<Jucato> hanapin ko lang yung pic ko ng high school...

<yolynne> Jucato: me blog ka ba?

<yolynne> Jucato: gawa ka nang hackergotchi mo

<Jucato> under renovation/construction

<Jucato> @_@

<butiki> Bugger all, I dunno.

<yolynne> me plano akong gumawa nang ecard eh

<Jucato> soonish to be in http://jucato.org/blog

<yolynne> lahat nang mga hackergotchi nang mga tga ubuntu-ph

<str0ng> heheh..

<yolynne> ulo mo tapos.. katawan ni pacquiao

<yolynne> hahhaha

<Jucato> lol

* rjian[out] im back

<Jucato> wb

*** rjian[out] is now known as rjian

<yolynne> bbl

<rjian> Jucato: thnx

<yolynne> enjoy chatting boys!

<Jucato> bye mommy! :)

<yolynne> rjian: mag add ka rin nang suggestion mo para sa meeting mamaya

<yolynne> Jucato: bye anak.. wag kang iihi sa pants ha...

<Jucato> hehehe :)

<rjian> yolynne: ah ok...

<mikhail^> ei guys

<Jucato> mikhail^: good morning

<mikhail^> OpenWeek starts today?

<Jucato> started monday

<Jucato> was quite a disappointment... (personally)

<yolynne> hello mikhail^

<rjian> Jucato: paano yun mag create page sa wiki? the moin moin

<rjian> suggest din me agenda

<mikhail^> hello yolynne

<Jucato> rjian: just add to the SuggestedTopics, no need to create a new page

<yolynne> Jucato: anak.. me question ako

<mikhail^> I thought 29th ang OpenWeek ?

<Jucato> rjian: http://ubuntu-ph.org/wiki/SuggestedTopics

<yolynne> Jucato: pano ko tanggalin ang away satus ko sa konversation

<yolynne> mikhail^: it started na

<mikhail^> yolynne: okay... so what's it about again?

<Jucato> yolynne: /back po ata, or Ctrl+Shift+A (toggles away/back)

<yolynne> mikhail^: kaninang umaga si mark

<mikhail^> yolynne: who is mark?

<yolynne> mikhail^: kabit ko

<yolynne> mikhail^: hahahha

<Jucato> lol

<yolynne> mikhail^: pero mind u.. di nya alam ha

<yolynne> si mark shuttleworth

<Jucato> or Shark Muddleworth... :)

<yolynne> Jucato: sama mo ha...sumbong kita mamaya

<mikhail^> So what is OpenWeek about?

<yolynne> ay okay na

<yolynne> Jucato: pare.. saan na yung mga links mo...bigay mo kay mikhail^

<Jucato> mikhail^: it's supposed to have sessions about the different aspects and parts of the community and how you can contribute

<yolynne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs

<Jucato> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek (main page)

<mikhail^> I'm looking, but I don't see anything interesting

<Jucato> heh... I was a bit disappointed myself...

<mikhail^> Ano 'to online lang?

<yolynne> they can improve next time

<Jucato> yep. IRC. the cleaned up logs are available in the link ate yolynne gave

<yolynne> you guys need to point out what expect to hear and be discussed on openmeetings

<Jucato> well, I mean, *I* might have not found it helpful, but maybe the others did.

<yolynne> yeah.. good point Jucato

<yolynne> they cannot please everybody

<mikhail^> kala ko naman kung ano yung OpenWeek na yun

<mikhail^> sya, logout na ko

<mikhail^> :)

<Jucato> heheh :)

<mikhail^> have a great day everyone!

<Jucato> hope he gets over his coding block

<Jucato> er coder's block pala

<yolynne> hahaha

<Jucato> hm... early lunch.. I'm hungry :)

<Terminus> morning. =)

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<Jucato> good morning Terminus

<zakame> morning all

<Terminus> morning zakame

<Jucato> good morning zakame! :)

<zakame> ssup? I heard ulinskie became a new admin on loco-philippine-team :D

* Terminus is reviewing last night's sessions

<zakame> yo Terminus Jucato

<zakame> and jsgotangco got deactivated

<Jucato> zakame: and kuya jerome passed ownership of the ubuntu-ph LP team to kuya irvin

<Jucato> (I think)

<Jucato> Terminus: I was quite disappointed with the past session...

* Terminus shrugs

<Jucato> ah yeah, kuya irvin is now the owner

<Terminus> Jucato: i didn't have any expectations so it's just ok for me. =)

<Jucato> Terminus: grabe yung mga tanong kagabi kay Mark... parang walang saysay..

<Terminus> hehe

<Terminus> i'm reading that session now.

<Jucato> lol

*** ubuntu is now known as Alter-Ego

<zakame> Jucato: so irvin pwns our asses now :P

<Jucato> yeah hehehe

<Jucato> zakame: pero sino po ang talaga leader/point person ng Ubuntu-PH?

<zakame> hmm so our cont here's 88, not bad

<zakame> *count

<zakame> Jucato: see the LoCoTeams wiki page

<Jucato> ok :)

<Alter-Ego> count ?

<Jucato> bwahaha hindi na lang sinagot na "Ako" :P

<Alter-Ego> how did jsgotangoco get deactivated ?

<Jucato> modest talaga

<Jucato> he left

<zakame> Alter-Ego: count on the loco-ph-team page on LP

<Alter-Ego> what did he get deactivaged from ?

<zakame> Alter-Ego: from LP

<Alter-Ego> zakame: web address ?

<zakame> more like a hiatus

<Jucato> Launchpad team

<Jucato> https://launchpad.net/people/loco-philippine-team

<Jucato> yeah, parang sabbatical :)

<zakame> he's probably too busy with all the stuff he's doing in AFI

<Jucato> in the mean time, he's using PC-BSD. hehehe :)

<Jucato> zakame: will you be attending the UbuntuOpenWeek sessions on LoCo teams?

<zakame> Jucato: when's that?

<Alter-Ego> so when is the meeting ?

<zakame> Alter-Ego: later at 12 utc

<Jucato> zakame: Nov 30. 15:00 UTC and Dec 2 15:00 UTC

<zakame> brb, lunch

<Alter-Ego> so, in 20 min ?

<Jucato> Alter-Ego: no, that's in UTC

<Alter-Ego> so loco is local ?

<Jucato> PHT = +8 UTC

<Jucato> LoCo = Local Community

<Alter-Ego> i notice the web page says "For the people on the other side of the world, the time would be 0700H EST/0800H CST. Hope to see everyone there."

<Jucato> Alter-Ego: basically, it's 8pm PHT (Philippine Tiime)

<zakame> Jucato: ah, marking those dates now

<Jucato> :)

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<zakame> yo ulinskie

<Jucato> wb mommy :)

<dekoy> uy me papa and mommy na

<dekoy> waahahaha

<dekoy> ang hirap naman maka hanap ng everwood season 2

<dekoy> ano bayan

<dekoy> baka meron kayong makukuhanan

<Jucato> wala ngang papa eh.. :(

<dekoy> hehe kadate ibang fafa

<Jucato> lol

* Jucato ay nagluluksa pa rin para kay kuya jerome

<Terminus> the patching session didn't leave much time for questions. hehe

<Jucato> tinulugan ko na...

<Jucato> nawalan ako ng gana bwahaha

<Terminus> hahaha

<Jucato> mas mahaba yung LP session

<Terminus> i just finished scanning all the stuff.

<Terminus> i didn't bother to read the bug squad section na.

<Jucato> heh

<Jucato> I'll read them sometime later.. maybe..

<ulinskie> zakame: yo zak

<Jucato> I won't be attending all the other sessions anymore... I'll just pick

<ulinskie> sorry I ate lunch

<ulinskie> sorry I ate my lunch .. how are u?

<Terminus> Jucato: got tired of it huh?

<Jucato> Terminus: sort of... medyo nadisappoint.. kasi nag expect masyado

<Terminus> doing nothing but hanging out in #ubuntu-classroom seems boring to me. =D

<Jucato> well, #ubuntu-classroom-chat is were all the questions get asked, and sometimes side comments

<Terminus> yeah...

* zakame check out half-life 2 comics

<Jucato> O.o

<Terminus> still, sleep > classroom for me. hehe

<zakame> Jucato: hlcomic.com

<Jucato> heheh thanks

<Jucato> Terminus: I just realized that a while ago :)

<Jucato> studies > sleep > #ubuntu-classroom

<Terminus> grrr... the villman pricelist wouldn't print from evince. had to reboot to windows just to print it. =(

<Jucato> ay oo nga pala.. buti namention mo villman...

<gnubee> magandang hapon po

<ulinskie> heya gnubee

<Terminus> afternoon gnubee =)

<gnubee> ey ulinskie Terminus !!

<gnubee> malamig na ba dyan?

<zakame> yo gnubee

<Jucato> ano po tawag dun sa case for a hard disk that you can plug into the CPU through a USB? parang external USB HDD?

<Terminus> Jucato: something like that.

<zakame> Jucato: HD enclosure

<Jucato> ah thanks!

<Jucato> regalo ko sa ate ko for xmas.. kano kaya un? (wala pang HDD na kasama)

<zakame> enclosures are cheap, around 500; HDs are another matter

<Jucato> ah ok lang. as long as hindi 1000+ yung enclosure :)

<Jucato> hindi pa po kasama yung USB cable dun?

<Jucato> down ang pcx.com.ph... ;(

<zakame> it comes with a cable, but it doesnt' come with an HD

<Jucato> heheh yeah :)

*** dekoy is now known as dektulog

<Jucato> thanks po :)

<dektulog> tulog na ako

<dektulog> bukas ulit

<dektulog> bye

*** Jucato is now known as Jucatulog

<Jucatulog> dektulog: mas maganda tingnan pag sakin :P

*** Jucatulog is now known as Jucato

<gnubee> yo zakame

<gnubee> ano bago mga pre?

<Jucato> bago... to be discussed in tonight's meeting :)

<gnubee> :)

<Jucato> Terminus: may online pricelist ba ang Villman?

<Terminus> Jucato: yep. meron. =)

<Jucato> oh thanks

<Terminus> Jucato: i used it as a reference when i was building that 16k computer yesterday. hehe

<ulinskie> Jucato: sa pc bodega?

<Jucato> down kasi ang pcx eh. I need to get an idea for the enclosure

<Jucato> ulinskie: san po yun?

<Terminus> Jucato: it's on page 2 under accessories.

<ulinskie> http://pcbodega.com/

<Jucato> ooh

<ulinskie> open pinoy

<ulinskie> madaming mi

<ulinskie> mura

<ulinskie> http://www.openpinoy.com/shop/step_submain.php?b_code=B20050211102916

<Jucato> reliable po ba yung sa open pinoy? baka mura nga pero....

<ulinskie> Jucato: dyan kami bumili nang mga computers and webcams for our cafe

<Jucato> aaah

<Jucato> malapit lang kasi sya sa apartment ng ate ko :)

<ulinskie> Jucato: ok naman.. u can return it to them kung me sira

<Jucato> wow ang mamahal ng enclosures :)

*** grex1 is now known as grexk

<Jucato> sa villman

<Jucato> ulinskie: san po ang store ng pc bodega?

<rjian> ganon

<rjian> Jucato: nabili ko ang enclosures is 358

<ulinskie> meron sa greenhills

<rjian> hehe

<ulinskie> meron din sa makati

<Jucato> ah nice... good kung meron sa makati

<ulinskie> rjian: psst.. me isa ka pang laptop harddisk na spare?

<rjian> ulinskie: ill check it 2morrow thanx for reminding me.. ehehe

<ulinskie> rjian: thanks thanks

<ulinskie> hello purserj

<ulinskie> bbl

<rjian> Jucato: nabili ko enclosures ko sa villman hehe

<Jucato> rjian: dun sa price list nila, walang bababa sa 500... pero siguro dahil online pricelist :P

<rjian> Jucato: aw oo nga.. eheh sorry sa CD'r king pla yun binili ko hehe

<Jucato> wah? may enclosure and CDR King?

* Jucato checks

<rjian> Jucato: yeah 358 yata yun or 328 something like that..

<Jucato> cool meron nga!

<grexk> Jucato: for laptop hd ba?

<Jucato> um... hindi hehehe

<Jucato> for regular HD

<Jucato> meron ba?

<grexk> Jucato: 5k 80gb pa

<rjian> ah akala ko for laptop HD

<rjian> hehe

<Jucato> bwahaha

<Jucato> kainis ka rjian!!!!

* Jucato sobs

<zakame> there are 80GB preloaded HD enclosures for around 5-6k

<rjian> ahihi

<rjian> Jucato: d mo kasi sinabi agad eh

<Jucato> nabanggit ko ata earlier...

<str0ng> gud pm all

<Jucato> anyway.. ok lang. tuloy ang paghahanap

* str0ng *burp*

<Jucato> good pm str0ng!

<str0ng> opss.. excuse me..

<Jucato> you need some coffee :)

<str0ng> Jucato, later.. heeheh :)

<rjian> Jucato: pro prang ganon parin ang mga price nila eh..

<rjian> Jucato: except for greenhills yata

<Jucato> kaso yung size...

* rjian ah ok

<grexk> Jucato: go for laptop hd ka na lang

<grexk> masussy dalhin

<Jucato> grexk: mas mahal hehehe

<Jucato> tipid sa budget...

<grexk> ah ok

<grexk> marami na ba torrentz?

<rjian> Jucato: mahal ang HD?? hehe

<Jucato> grexk: MP3. para sa ate ko

<Jucato> halos puno na nya 80GB with MP3's and AVI's...

<grexk> waaaaaaaaaaa

<Jucato> amazing, di ba?

<Jucato> at... yun yung mga hindi pa naka backup...

<Jucato> meron syang mga CD at DVD backups pa

<grexk> lol

* rjian lols

<Jucato> hm... baka naman meron syang pr0n na hindi ko alam...

<Jucato> kaya sobrang dami...

<rjian> Jucato: may bago pa pla pictures nang ubuntu party ahihi

<Jucato> aba aba! I update ang /topic at ang site

* rjian new few pics of Ubuntu Party http://www.iosn.net/Members/kaeru/photos/ubuntu-party-edgy-ph

<Jucato> :)

<Jucato> puro site error when trying to view individual pics

<rjian> Jucato: hmmm may sira pa yata site nila kahit ang main page mahirap makapasok :(

<Jucato> :(

<Jucato> brb

*** Jucato is now known as Jucatulog

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<daysleeper_ed> hi everyone :-D

* daysleeper_ed temp away...

<ulinskie> hi daysleeper_ed

* daysleeper_ed back

<daysleeper_ed> hallo ulinskie :-)

<daysleeper_ed> kamusta business?

<daysleeper_ed> LOL

<ulinskie> daysleeper_ed: ok naman...

<daysleeper_ed> nakakuha ka nga ba ng .info domain?

<daysleeper_ed> hindi ko na makita yung mga libre, kukuha rin sana ako

<rjian> daysleeper_ed: domain free?

<daysleeper_ed> yup, rjian. some domain resellers we're giving them away for free

<daysleeper_ed> kanya lang may kundisyun pala

<daysleeper_ed> auto-renew, 2nd year mo regular charge na

<daysleeper_ed> sa mga .info lang yun, kase dun ako interesado

<daysleeper_ed> ewan ko yung ibang "free" domains

<rjian> daysleeper_ed: how much did u pay?

<daysleeper_ed> hindi pa ako kumuha, kase naghahanap ako ng better deal.

*** daysleeper_ed is now known as daysleeper_ed_as

*** daysleeper_ed_as is now known as daysleeper_ed

<rjian> daysleeper_ed: u can check this site www.wordprocomputers.com

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<fdelacruz> hi guys anyone familiar w/ nagios

* rjian is away (rjian is on OFFLINE)

*** rjian is now known as rjian[out]

<Jucatulog> Goood afternoon :)

<Jucatulog> ouch? 3,500 a year yung starter plan?

*** Jucatulog is now known as Jucato

<Terminus> Jucato: starter plan for what?

<Jucato> yun sa webhost service na binigay ni rjian[out] sa taas

<Jucato> wordprocomputers

<Terminus> akala ko 1500 lang?

<Jucato> yung student plan, 3500. at yun ang pinakamababa...

<Jucato> aaah

<Terminus> meron basic hosting na 1500 sa ilalim eh.

<Jucato> yung tinitingnan ko pala ay "website" plans. yung "hosting" plans 1,500 pinaka mababa

<Terminus> in any case, i have a cheaper alternative. =D

<Jucato> your own server? hehehe

<Terminus> ummm... yeah...

<Jucato> :P

<Terminus> i was thinking about reselling my empty space, pero if it's for blogs, i dunno.

<Terminus> baka medyo malaki yung space requirements for blogs eh. hehehe

<Jucato> cguro cheaper nga. kelangan lang magbayad para sa domain tapos isipin ang bill sa kuryente...

<Terminus> it's not here at home. =P

<Terminus> nasa datacenter.

<Jucato> aah

<Terminus> i'm not saying which hosting company para you'll get it from me, para meron ako patong. lol

<Jucato> bwahahaha

* Terminus is currently using 44k out of his 1GB

<Terminus> =D

<Jucato> meron ako nakita dati, sobrang baba ng lowest plan nila. Php 30/month

<Terminus> no kidding?

<Jucato> http://www.philhosting.net/

<Jucato> kaso naman, 60MB?

<Terminus> hmmm...

<Terminus> i can't match 30 pesos for 60mb.

<Terminus> cheap nga. hehe

<Jucato> hehehe

<Jucato> parang too good to be true...

<Terminus> yep.

* Terminus checks with his calculator.

<Terminus> brb

<Terminus> have to reset and sync my phone in windows.

<Terminus> one reason to keep windows pala. >_<

<Jucato> heheh

<Terminus> stupid... i killed my IRC session instead of detaching. >_<

<aeon17x> hey guys

<aeon17x> walang pasok bukas sa metro manila, announced na ng malacañang

<Jucato> bakt daw?

<aeon17x> Super typhoon reming, direct hit sa metro manila sa friday

<aeon17x> OH NOES

<Jucato> hindi nga?

<aeon17x> http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metroregions/view_article.php?article_id=35301

<Jucato> waaah patay

<aeon17x> SERIOUS NEWS

<Jucato> lagot tayo nito

<aeon17x> Milenyo, episode 2

<aeon17x> parang pacquiao vs morales

<Jucato> huhuhu... wala na namang kuryente at tubig...

<Jucato> worse.. walang computer/internet!!!

<aeon17x> 195 kilometers per hour

<Jucato> pero parang wala naman sa atin ngayon no?

<Jucato> ang init pa nga eh

<daysleeper_ed> rjian, tnx sa info

<daysleeper_ed> jucato, ever looked at ploghosting?

<daysleeper_ed> http://www.ploghost.com/

<Jucato> daysleeper_ed: I have. pero sa ngayon po meron pa akong free host eh :)

<daysleeper_ed> okie

<daysleeper_ed> bagyo na naman

<Jucato> I'm actually preparing the home page for it right now :)

<daysleeper_ed> haay

<Jucato> oo nga... i-over charge ko kaya cell ko ngayon...

<Jucato> :P

<ulinskie> bbl

<daysleeper_ed> sabihin mo lang kapag online na. i'll linky to your site

<Jucato> ok po. kaso it's in a constant state of flux ngayon...

<Jucato> haay.. bye bye na nga sa Blogger... :P

<daysleeper_ed> argh! ganyan ako dati. just got tired of it and went for blogger

<Jucato> heheh palipat-lipat din?

<Jucato> I guess I'll have to weigh the pros and cons of using Blogger and FTP'ing to my site vs. using WordPress directly on my site

<daysleeper_ed> oo, napagod na lang ako sa kakakalikot. buti pa sa blogger. pati security eh medyo okey na

<daysleeper_ed> i think wordpress will be better, though i haven't tried it yet

<Jucato> so they say... I'll try it out... let's see if I come back crying to Blogger hehehe

<daysleeper_ed> i hope you don't. rock on with wordpress

<Jucato> :)

* daysleeper_ed bangs his head ala jason newstead

<Jucato> hehehe

<daysleeper_ed> on the lighter side of things, i used to be such a metallica fan...

<daysleeper_ed> until they kicked out jason in such a rude manner it just made me sick

<Jucato> wow... metallica :)

<daysleeper_ed> fame got to their heads. they aren't the garage band i used to listen to

<Jucato> heheh they were to famous to be stuck to a garage :P

<daysleeper_ed> garages! HP preserved their garage!

<daysleeper_ed> LOL

<Jucato> :)

<daysleeper_ed> http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/garage/

<daysleeper_ed> oh well, got to go now

<daysleeper_ed> everyone, be well. have a great night

<daysleeper_ed> :-D

<Kawaii-Panda> @google

<butiki> Kawaii-Panda: (google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.

<Kawaii-Panda> ?

<Terminus> i wonder if butiki's google plugin broke too.

<Terminus> @google ubuntu

<butiki> Terminus: Search took 0.36 seconds: Welcome - Ubuntu : Linux for human beings: <http://www.ubuntu.com/>; Ubuntu Forums: <http://ubuntuforums.org/>; UBUNTU - World Forum of Networks: <http://www.ubuntu.org/>; Ubuntu (Linux distribution) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)>; Ubuntu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu>; (1 more message)

<Jucato> :)

<Terminus> wtf?! mine's busted.

<Kawaii-Panda> hi ppl! is the meeting starting or will it begin @ 20:00PH filipino time?

<Jucato> 8pm po

<Terminus> oh wait, meeting is at 8 pala. and i'm going out for dinner. >_<

<Jucato> tsk tsk :P

<Kawaii-Panda> aw... me 2

<Jucato> at wala pa si mangz74... hmm...

<Kawaii-Panda> so ano po topic naten?

<Jucato> to be discussed :)

<Jucato> http://ubuntu-ph.org/wiki/SuggestedTopics

<Jucato> brb dinner na muna :)

*** rjian266 is now known as rjian

*** zakame changes topic to "Ubuntu-PH IRC Meeting NOW!!! See agenda at http://ubuntu-ph.org/wiki/SuggestedTopics | Edgy Eft Release Party report: http://tinyurl.com/yeztqg pics: http://tinyurl.com/yh3q2n and http://tinyurl.com/yfbeal | Get your questions answered, UbuntuOpenWeek is now rolling (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek)"

-butiki- +News from slashdot: Judge Says U.S. Money Violates Rights of the Blind

<zakame> dang internets are slow

<Kawaii-Panda> internets are slow?

<Jucato> meeting na ba? did I miss anything? :)

<zakame> meeting's adjourned already :P

<zakame> NOT

<Jucato> hehehe

<zakame> there's just a bout a minute to start

<Jucato> kakatapos lang kasi ng pokémon eh ツ

<Jucato> bwahaha

<Kawaii-Panda> @time manila

<butiki> Kawaii-Panda: manila

<Jucato> O.o

<Kawaii-Panda> aw... T_T shouldve typed it in #ubuntu

<zakame> its 7 am here on my screen (UTC -5)

<Kawaii-Panda> Current time in Asia/Manila: November 29 2006, 20:03:26 - Current meeting: Edubuntu lets get it starting :)

<Jucato> zakame: that's CST eh?

<zakame> right

<zakame> ok, lets get started; first up, enumerations

* zakame is ZakElep

<Jucato> ?

<Kawaii-Panda> enum a = {1,2,3,4,5} ?

<zakame> Jucato: introductions

* Jucato is Juan Carlos Torres

* Kawaii-Panda is Mark Christian D. Lopez

<Kawaii-Panda> just new here :)

<zakame> LoCoBot_2: logging this? good

<zakame> to everyone who wishes to participate, please introduce yourselves for the log

<Kawaii-Panda> they seem to be still out...

<zakame> ok lets wait for 15

<Jucato> timeout :)

<zakame> ^^ check the log

<Kawaii-Panda> ok... lets start

<ulinskie> am I late?

<zakame> ok, let's get this meeting to boot, starting with a crazy pic: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1164801242356.gif

<Kawaii-Panda> filipino time sucks :(

<Jucato> wehehe

<zakame> nah, time sucks, filipinos don't :P

<Jucato> :P

<ulinskie> nobody sucks

<ulinskie> nothing sucks

<zakame> err don't offend my nothing :P

<Kawaii-Panda> ulinskie: oh yeah, i can suck. anyone can suck. in fact, bats suck to eat

<zakame> anyway, let's check out SuggestedTopics now

<Kawaii-Panda> some weasels too maybe

<ulinskie> hahaha

<ulinskie> hey...

<Kawaii-Panda> ok. first question: why are we conducting this meeting?

<zakame> looking it over, I see this is more about specific goals of particular people, with some conflict/overlap within

<ulinskie> roll call

<ulinskie> who are here

<zakame> ulinskie: we already did that

<zakame> ^^ check the log

<ulinskie> ah ok

<ulinskie> sorry

<ulinskie> I am on bitchX

<zakame> just intro for the log :)

<ulinskie> wait... will take a look at it

<zakame> you and rjian[out]

<ulinskie> its lagging in here

<ulinskie> d I have to introduce myslf?

<zakame> yup, e.g. /me is nobody

<ulinskie> okay.. Yolynne Medina po from Zamboanga

* Kawaii-Panda is Mark Christian D. Lopez. A newcomer here, and likes to know more what other people like. And what they do at the present with ubuntu and their dreams for it.

* Kawaii-Panda is currently stuck studying in malate, manila.

* zakame is ZakElep, in Figaro's RP for the free wifi and iced tea, another anonymous in the *chans.

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: really? where you at?

<Jucato> lol magkalapit :)

<Kawaii-Panda> really, im near quirino in j. lawin. but iom just boarding here.

<Kawaii-Panda> im really from masbate.

* Jucato is Juan Carlos Torres from San Pedro, Laguna. 11-month old baby in Linux/Kubuntu

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: ooh, bicolano! I'm from Daet

<Kawaii-Panda> is this logged @ http://www.nabble.com/ubuntu-ph-f12752.html ? im just new sorry...

<zakame> there's an official irclog at netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/ , sorted by date and irc channel

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: im not bicolano, our langguage is more like, anything-goes. you can add whatever in it, and the society will just use it. currently it's a mixup of english, tagalog, cebuano and bicolano...

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: but you say you're from masbate... or did your family just move there from someplace?

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: no. my mom's native there. my dad's kind of half-spanish... so with the lopez name. and my dad's mom is masbateno.

<zakame> i see

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: btw. where are you located? near malate?

<zakame> still, that's part of bicol, so that makes you one :P

<zakame> yeah, I'm at robinsons right now, but I live nearby, sa benitez/nakpil

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: yeah, hehe, i pass there(bicol) when visiting to masbate. its cheaper. im currently studying computer engineering...

<zakame> cool! :D

<Kawaii-Panda> robinsons? havent visited there for a long time, im shopping at harrison T_T ...

<zakame> heh

<zakame> yeah its easier, just by taking the dakota jeep

* Jucato wonders if mangz74 will make it...

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: heh... i just walk to there though...

<zakame> ah

<zakame> ok, anyhow, let's carry on with the meeting, folks can catch te logs later

<Kawaii-Panda> hmm... im wondering. is the government aware ubuntu exists?

<Kawaii-Panda> we could save lots in government money if they use it instead of windows. and the money could be put to better use.

<zakame> yes, very; the sabdfl himself presented it when he came over last February

<zakame> tell that to the hogs

<zakame> :(

<Kawaii-Panda> oh... heh

<zakame> I was there when Mark presented ubuntu to the folks at CICT/NCC... they were spaced out

<zakame> imho they didn't understand ubuntu (or FOSS in general) at all

<zakame> wb ulinskie_

<ulinskie_> sorry

<Kawaii-Panda> hey Jucato, where is this log located? and is there a special log for introductions? im new on this forum. i didnt even know it existed :)

<ulinskie_> how can I kill my othe rnick\

<ulinskie_> i'm on gprs now...conenction is slow

<Jucato> ulinskie_: /msg NickServ GHOST <nick to be killed> <password for the nick>

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: thats so bad. we'll never go up at this rate. ignorance sucks...

<ulinskie_> .msg NickServ GHOST ULINSKIE ONAT0418\

<zakame> ulinskie_: ghost, via nickserv

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: um.. none that I know of

<Jucato> ulinskie_: patay...

<ulinskie_> SHIT

<ulinskie_> HAHAH

<Jucato> :)

<zakame> ulinskie_: CHANGE YOUR PASSWD, OR ELSE BE PWNED

<Jucato> bwahaha

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: log's at http://netz.smurf.noris.de/log/freenode/2006/11/29/#ubuntu-ph.html

<Jucato> hm... wala si kuya irvin...

<Kawaii-Panda> thanks zakame! :-D

<Kawaii-Panda> its kinda broken though

<zakame> just follow the index, it has a link

<Kawaii-Panda> they only have up to 28...

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: welcome pala to #ubuntu-ph (IRC channel) :)

<zakame> http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2006/11/29/%23ubuntu-ph.html

<zakame> refresh often

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: the logs are arranged by date, separated by year, then month, then day

<Kawaii-Panda> aw ok thanks found it!

<Jucato> zakame: suggestion po pala, either we teach butiki a !logs factoid or put a link in the topic for http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/

<Kawaii-Panda> lets put the log link in the website

<Kawaii-Panda> everyone goes there right? also, we should put the site in the welcome message.

<zakame> Jucato: right, let me ping jmibanez about that one

<Jucato> ooh... I haven't met him in IRC yet.. the legendary jmibanez :)

<zakame> he's more often in Y!M, find cyberlizard0

<Jucato> ah

<Jucato> YM? hindi Jabber? :)

<zakame> no, YM

<zakame> well, he's more like incommunicado now since he's on the ABS camp too

<zakame> you know, the Great Bureaucratic Firewall of ABS

<zakame> wb (again) yolynne

<yolynne> sorry guys

<yolynne> my reklessnesss is striking again

<zakame> no prob

<Jucato> hehe

<yolynne> zakame : kindly kick ulinskie

<Kawaii-Panda> its going 9:00 & we havent started yet.

<yolynne> ala syang silbi

<yolynne> hahahaha

<yolynne> start na

<zakame> yolynne: hell no I won't do that, I'm too good :P

<zakame> besides I'm no /op

<Kawaii-Panda> the only OP here is ChanServ

<yolynne> zakame : hey ur op before right?

<Jucato> how sad... ilan lang tayo...

<zakame> its irvin who has the keys to both this chan and LP

<yolynne> hayaan mona

<Jucato> you were OPed already

<zakame> no, I'm not currently in /op mode

<yolynne> lets go on with the plan

<yolynne> they know of the meeting naman eh

<yolynne> they might have something impt to do

<zakame> ok, on with the show

<zakame> reading SuggestedTopics, I see that this is more of an enumeration of particular goals for particular people

<zakame> while quite noble, I also see that some of these goals may overlap, even contradict each other

<zakame> hence I do believe we need to find a common ground to achieve many (if not) all of these goals

<yolynne> comments?

<yolynne> Jucato ? u answer first then Kawaii-Panda

<yolynne> who else would like to go after Kawaii-Panda ?

<Jucato> well, the suggestions were really meant just so that we could have some options. of course we can't nor should we do them all. we really need to agree on some common goals

<Kawaii-Panda> right

<zakame> indeed

<Kawaii-Panda> i think we need to have a vision first. so what are our vision? our targets for ubuntu on the philippines. we know we can help small business thru POS software, education thru educational software, but what do we do first? and how can our website and updating it help?

<zakame> another reason is because of the nature of our org; we're not as well organized (to the point of being incorporated) like the other locoteams, right now we're more of a ragtag fleet

<Kawaii-Panda> true. we should meet each other more often. :)

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: indeed, we do have some hazy vision of Ubuntu being a top distro in the Philippines, but that's just about it

<Jucato> we can't expect everyone to work full time in ubuntu-ph anyway. no one's being paid by Canonical :P

<zakame> I actually brought up that in an earlier meeting

<Kawaii-Panda> yeah. i first had ubuntu on cebu. i was searching to download a small linux distro for my 486 and then the computer owner gave me ubuntu.

<Kawaii-Panda> aint that nice?

<zakame> Jucato: that just might change... just. :P

<Jucato> so maybe we could have a possibly more concrete, but less "grand", vision?

<Jucato> zakame: oooh...

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: we dont need anyone to work full-time, we should evolve like how linux evolves, from people's interests.

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: right; its the love that counts :)

<Jucato> and with love comes commitment and time :)

<Kawaii-Panda> right now, because im a student, im more on the academic side. how can it help take down notes, study exams, quiz software ( im developing one ), etc. but currently our computer literacy in general has to improve too...

<Kawaii-Panda> anyway, im thinking that we should make more effort to improve ubuntu here on our country. so like, we could make our own distro.

<Terminus> evening everybody. just got back from dinner. spent the last few minutes catching up on the log. =)

<zakame> yo Terminus wb

<Kawaii-Panda> things we can add could be as simple as auto mp3, flash and other prop format illegal in other coutries but legal here operating.

* Terminus is Justin Jereza from Bacolod City

<Terminus> yo zakame =)

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: while that's nice, and really is nice, we're still in a bind as to how to support such a distro especially in times of new releases and upgrades

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: yes, we should work for love's sake. not work for work's sake, we would be happier that way :-*

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: we can support people by directing them here as the default support channel, or redirecting them to the main #ubuntu and ubuntuforums.org site.

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: you mean straight from an install? pressing cds isn't exactly practical for such a small modification.

<Kawaii-Panda> also, we only need to support them here in special cases - like they cant speak english or something. it's a hobby no a job. its supposed to be done for fun - like basketball :)

<zakame> currently LoCoTeams can provide support, but they aren't really expected to do full technical support, that is, when enterprises come knocking for it

<Terminus> the best i can think of is a metapackage for the proprietary formats.

<Kawaii-Panda> or a philippine ubuntu updater. we can make it like automatix :)

<Kawaii-Panda> and gives a free philippine team and wallpaper too. we could put gloria macapagal there hehe

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: breakage is an issue.

<Kawaii-Panda> *team->theme*

<Kawaii-Panda> Terminus: breakage?

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: for example, apparently, a lot of people had dapper -> edgy upgrade problems because of automatix.

<zakame> ok, yolynne just called via civil protection, says she's DC'ed for goo

<zakame> *good

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: yup, automatix, while quite a good piece of software, didn't account for upgrades

<Kawaii-Panda> Terminus: automatix has no fault really. the #ubuntu channel keeps blaming it because they want to support easybuntu. but go to automatix2's site and it's just fud.

<Kawaii-Panda> in fact ive upgraded from dapper to edgy.

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: no. both easybuntu and automatix are not supported by #ubuntu.

<Jucato> sorry brb.. business

<Kawaii-Panda> i dont know maybe some packages do break it. but i havent seen any yet though.

<Terminus> in any case, if you're looking for a one size fits all solution, a metapackage seems the least intrusive to me.

<zakame> nevertheless, the point is direct modification/mangling of things inside /usr (and outside /usr/local) may break the APT system, and may thereby prevent a clean upgrade to happen

<Terminus> zakame: that's why metapackage. list all the codec packages as deps. =)

<zakame> Terminus: yeah that's feasible, but there's really no guarantee if the package pulls in other pkgs from other repos

<Terminus> there's still the make "enabling repos" easy business though.

<Terminus> zakame: i was thinking just stuff in universe and multiverse.

<zakame> FWIW, these other pkgs may not be on par with the packaging standards at all

<Terminus> that's true.

<Terminus> that's why they're not in main after all. =)

<Terminus> err... restricted i mean.

<Kawaii-Panda> zakame: yeah. true, the eclipse package is broken. :(

<Kawaii-Panda> ive installed mine thru the website.

<Kawaii-Panda> so anyway, back to the topic - what's our current vision. where is this group heading to?

<Jucato> sorry sorry... I'm back now

<zakame> mangz74: yo, check the logs

<Terminus> hello mangz74 and jsgotangco =)

<Jucato> ayun nakukumpleto na

<zakame> salut jsgotangco , HEIL!

<mangz74> zakame:thanks ...i will

<zakame> :P

* Terminus follows zakame's lead.

<jsgotangco> hey dude

<jsgotangco> what's up

<Terminus> sieg heil!

<jsgotangco> ?

<Terminus> lol

<mangz74> sorry everyone...just got in at work

<jsgotangco> errr what's happening here?

<Terminus> zakame: you said earlier that ubuntu-ph is not doing commercial support work right?

<zakame> well we're having a meeting on the locoteam's future direction... which may get itself extended on firday, lunchtime

<zakame> *friday, lunchtime

<jsgotangco> ahh well good luck :-)

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: regarding automatix, it is not the people in #ubuntu who are saying that it causes breaking upgrades. the devs themselves are saying this

<jsgotangco> zakame: http://jerome.gotangco.com/archives/7

<zakame> Terminus: nope, we don't even have funds :P

<mangz74> where can i find the logs of what you have discussed earlier

<zakame> jsgotangco: WTF!!! jerome.gotangco.com!!!

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: i dunno. anyway, it worked well for me though.

<jsgotangco> ;-)

<Jucato> also, I think they have plans to make installing codecs easier

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: i dont know if automatix really that bad - all it does is download packages using apt-get.in the background and just serves as a UI to download them.

<Terminus> zakame: coz i was thinking, the best way to reach people might be through business, and doing that kind of stuff would benefit the community as a whole in terms of funds, exposure, etc. =)

<zakame> jsgotangco: ah yes, Jucato told me that

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: true. its on launchpad.

<Kawaii-Panda> they also plan to put beryl by default. there were hundreds of comments when i post that in ubuntuforums feisty.

<purserj> Kawaii-Panda: the problem with Automatix is that it introduces third party repositories which the devs don't like

<zakame> Terminus: that seems feasible, maybe like a consulting gig?

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: it's not the installation of automatix itself that's problematic, but the problem is the inclusion on unofficial repos which tend to break upgrades

<Kawaii-Panda> haha - i cant even reply there anymore :)

<zakame> salut purserj

<purserj> heh, howdy zakame

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: anyway, the problem then is on the package management which im sure the automatix team can fix.

<Kawaii-Panda> besides its version 2 now.

<Kawaii-Panda> and i needed it to install and use flash on edgy 64-bit.

<Terminus> zakame: exactly.

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: it's not the package management. it's the inclusion/addition of unofficial repositories in the sources.list that's problematic. Automatix doesn't package their own stuff

<Kawaii-Panda> it wasnt that bad, anyway, at the time of edgy's release, it was still so bad that the devs mightve just damned it in the channel.

<Jucato> anyway, let's get back to the topic (if we have)

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: its still the package management. its the responsibility of those third parties to provide quality tested packages

<Terminus> zakame: it can either act as a front for all the consultants and the org gets a cut, or the org can treat the consultants as employees and pay their salary. =)

<Kawaii-Panda> also the official ubuntu devs package bad packages too that escape QA, look for example at eclipse.

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: let's discuss this later after the meeting.

<Terminus> zakame: acting as a front seems better though para walang quota requirements. hehe

<Kawaii-Panda> yes, better, we need to start, 40 minutes before ten.

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: eclipse has been a PITA even upstream (that is, from Debian,) but right, I agree with Jucato and save that after the meet

<Terminus> with the consultants as employees, meron na overhead problems etc.

<zakame> Terminus: interesting... good thing we've a log ;)

<Kawaii-Panda> offtopic: hey is there classes tomorrow? my sister says they dont. she teaches at this elementary school and says its because of a typhoon that will arrive.

<Terminus> zakame: hehehe. =)

<Kawaii-Panda> but inq7 says the typhoon arrives friday

<zakame> Kawaii-Panda: on friday, wala

<Kawaii-Panda> oh, k. ill still take my subjects tomorrow.

<Terminus> in short it's ubuntu-ph/mercenary guild. =D

<zakame> Terminus: would you be so kind as to write that idea down on the wiki, maybe as a spec?

<mangz74> can someone give me the site where i can check the logs

<Terminus> zakame: sure thing. =)

<mangz74> where are we now on the meeting?

<zakame> I've yet to confirm if we as a LOCoTeam can do that, but I think it is ok

<jsgotangco> oh so a locoteam now becomes a source of income huh

<Jucato> mangz74: http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2006/11/29/%23ubuntu-ph.html

-butiki- +News from slashdot: Justice Department To Review Domestic Spying

<zakame> jsgotangco: is it allowed, or not?

<jsgotangco> i dunno really, i dont like the idea though, but its just my opinion

<zakame> well I have my reservations too, but interesting nontheles

<zakame> *nonetheless

<jsgotangco> well its your/groups call

<Terminus> i'm looking at it as a way to put companies in touch with the people that they need.

<zakame> heh bad-spelling

<Kawaii-Panda> its ok i guess. canonical does get money from supporting ubuntu esp. on servers.

<jsgotangco> Kawaii-Panda: well its pretty different

<Jucato> zakame: maybe something to bring up with Melissa Draper during the LoCo Teams session

<zakame> I'll bring it up on the loco-contacts list later then

<Kawaii-Panda> ?

<zakame> Jucato: or that too :D

<Terminus> yep. that's why canonical is a separate entity from ubuntu itself.

<jsgotangco> if its just using the portal to some sort of classified ads, it would be ok i guess

<jsgotangco> or a manpower pool

<jsgotangco> or something

<zakame> heh, craigslist!

<jsgotangco> but the portal itself is funded by canonical so its best to ask

<Terminus> jsgotangco: yeah... hence my leaning towards the consultants bit.

<Terminus> with the consultants as employees bit, it doesn't seem like an org anymore.

<jsgotangco> (of course canonical would like to see a thriving local market why not)

<Kawaii-Panda> anyway, it might be ok if some of us could make a linux consultation group that can offer linux services and support to those who need them, like people who want to do POS cheaper, education, etc. i guess it would be ok, since its a business built around consultation, not selling free software.

<Kawaii-Panda> for promoting ubuntu, the loco team might suffice, but for bigger projects, like making a government or bank linux server, a consultation group would have to be needed.

<jsgotangco> its not the locoteam's responsibility to do that

<jsgotangco> if there's a want for commercial stuff, register a business or something

<jsgotangco> and not use the name of the locoteam

<jsgotangco> that's my opinion

<Terminus> i'm just thinking about this because people can't work for free either. promoting it for business seems iffy without a better organized front eh.

<zakame> brb, mall's closin, but just in case, we'll continue this meeting by friday, around lunchtime PHT (04:00 UTC)

<Kawaii-Panda> yes. thats just my point. that if some of us want money from supporting linux, we could make a consultation group.

<Kawaii-Panda> while the loco teams primary responsibility is to keep ubuntu users happy and to promote it to the world.

<Terminus> if we can't go that route, what are the other avenues available for promoting ubuntu?

<Kawaii-Panda> ehm... the country.

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<Jucato> sana walang bagyo by that time (follow up meeting) zakame

<Kawaii-Panda> Terminus: we can run a commercial, posters, etc. but the problem would be when people begins to use it. they should not be disappointed and thats another problem.

<zakame> hmm we could go ayala avenue, or edsa

<Terminus> lol zakame

<Kawaii-Panda> sana walang bagyo bukas... andami kong classes sa ibaibang building... T_T

<zakame> that is, a business/marketing route, or a guerilla warfare rout :P

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: then the problem becomes funding. =P

<zakame> *route

<Kawaii-Panda> edsa V: the open-source revolution

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: that would mean you either have a benefactor or the org has to be self sufficient.

<Kawaii-Panda> Terminus: its a hobby, not a job - so team members could just draw on a piece of paper and say "Try Ubuntu - Replace Windows etc. go to www.ubuntu.com or contact # to get free CDs" and post it in a freedom wall.

<zakame> jsgotangco: right on down there, that's what I fear most,

<zakame> anyhow brb really;

<Terminus> i'm just thinking about the costs of becoming more effective.

* Terminus shrugs

<zakame> guys, in case I do not get to come back, carry on the meeting :D

<Terminus> it's just a suggestion anyway. =)

<zakame> l8r

<Jucato> O.o

<purserj> gah I don't suppose anyone can translate turkish?

<zakame> purserj: not the place to ask :P

<Kawaii-Panda> purserj: try babelfish.altavista.com

<jsgotangco> purserj: yeah its pretty touchy subject

<purserj> sorry, didn't mean to step on toes

<jsgotangco> well i dont read kurdish either heh

<zakame> is that the kurdish thing?

<zakame> oh there we go

<purserj> yar, I'm trying to find out what the hell is going on so I can write an article

<Terminus> zakame: still around? do i need to register to make the page? =D

<zakame> Terminus: you don't have a login yet?

<zakame> just register then

<Terminus> zakame: erm... no. =D

<Terminus> zakame: i never register for membership for anything when i'm not sure about my commitment level. =P

<zakame> buwahaha

<zakame> well the u-ph wiki isn't the most nagging of our services

<Terminus> hehe

<Terminus> time for me to register then.

<Kawaii-Panda> wordpress is slow lately.

<Jucato> where are we now?

* Terminus shrugs

<Jucato> heh :)

<Terminus> AFAIK, we're still trying to figure out the mission/vision part. =)

<Kawaii-Panda> i dunno... :'(

<Kawaii-Panda> yeah - we should at least just put a sentence before we're done with the meeting.

<Kawaii-Panda> so, let me start this by asking - "what are we here for?"

<Terminus> and what i was suggesting was a means towards accomplishing the mission/vision, whatever it is. =D

<Jucato> don't we at least need a mission/vision first? :)

<Terminus> we're here for ubuntu, the promotion of it, and the increase of it's userbase in the country. =)

<Kawaii-Panda> yes, that is the basis of any organization. without a purpose, noone can survive. life becomes meaningless.

<Kawaii-Panda> wow thats deep :)

<Kawaii-Panda> now, why do we want to increase the userbase in our country?

<Terminus> increase in userbase would mean that ubuntu has greater support thereby contributing to the cause of closing bug #1. =D

<Kawaii-Panda> right!

<Jucato> because we want to share the wonders of Ubuntu? :P

<Kawaii-Panda> what now? oh yeah... uh btw. i made a draft on my blog, anything we could add, or we should go to the vision part... nvm the blog draft isnt formatted properly but its a draft. http://hk2999.livejournal.com/

<Terminus> okidokie. =)

<Kawaii-Panda> what next? any suggestions here?

<Jucato> no idea...

* Terminus shrugs again

<Kawaii-Panda> guess we should move to the vision part. btw. is what we are doing official?

<Jucato> what do you mean?

<Terminus> my mind's jumbled up as of the moment, with stuff revolving around promoting ubuntu mainly.

* Jucato is not good with advocacy... and leaves that to Terminus :P

<Kawaii-Panda> i mean, how can the other members know what we are doing in this meeting? how can they agree or disagree to what we are saying today. if they dont agree to anything, all we are doing is pointless. the community is lost. :(

<Jucato> that's the point... we can't decide on anything yet

<Kawaii-Panda> then i guess we should postpone this til everyone is here. its like politics, a community is nothing without its members. and even if we publish this things it wont do any good, the philosophy we can do would not be in our member's hearts.

<Kawaii-Panda> ugh! i speak like a roman emperor here. lol.

<Terminus> Jucato: i'm not a marketing/sales guy. i don't even know the difference between the two. but seeing as how locoteams are supposed to advocate, promote, translate, develop and otherwise improve Ubuntu, it should be on the agenda i think. =)

<Terminus> (that was ripped off the locoteam ubuntu wiki entry)

<Kawaii-Panda> but then the problem would be on targetting, what are we trying to accomplish, and what would be the end of our labour. what do we want the world to be after we are done with the advocating, promoting and translating and ubuntu is #1. would it be good? how good could it be?

* Terminus leaves that up to the visionaries

* Kawaii-Panda too

<jsgotangco> heh its always nice to dream heh

<Terminus> technically, i would interpret bug #1 as not about ubuntu being #1, but making platform market share a closer fight. =)

<Kawaii-Panda> guess the team needs more visionaries. i'm just a computer engineering student who likes to program and thinks more about algorithms and stuff.

<Kawaii-Panda> Terminus: right!

<Jucato> i'm just... I'm just me :)

<Kawaii-Panda> anyway, imo, we need to make the loco team closer to each other. without solidarity, we can't coordinate properly to promote ubuntu. just another suggestion. :)

<jsgotangco> hmmm

<jsgotangco> how do i transfer ownership of the channel

<mangz74> sorry folks...just caught up with the conversation here

<mangz74> ok...

<mangz74> kawaii-panda: hi

<Kawaii-Panda> hello mangz74!

<Jucato> mangz74: don't worry, nothing to catch up with anymore...

<mangz74> hahaha

<mangz74> tapos na ba

<mangz74> i just finished reading the whole logs

<mangz74> :(

<Jucato> well... sort of kinda

<Jucato> actually... ewan :)

<mangz74> since you are still discussing the matter of how promote ubuntu here

<mangz74> i mean in the philippines...

<Jucato> umalis kasi si kuya zak... meron daw kelangang gawin

<Jucato> no one's available to "steer"

<mangz74> there's a lot of possible ways we could do that...without resorting to being paid consultants as what i read from the logs

<mangz74> jsg?

<Kawaii-Panda> honestly, if we have the gov. in our side, promoting ubuntu would be easy because we would have virtually unlimited funds for promoting it :)

<Terminus> jsgotangco: no idea. best i can thing of is dropping and registering again. why, too busy at abs? =|

<jsgotangco> that's one thing

<mangz74> kawaii-panda: i believe we could still promote it just buy doing the DIY attitude

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: do you really want to be beholden to the govt? =P

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: the more important step is actually getting the gov't to recognize FOSS. without that, it's almost impossible to even have them on our (Ubuntu's) side

<jsgotangco> Terminus: another is how can i be part of a group where the OS being championed is something i dont use much anymore

<mangz74> we don't really need huge amount of funds to do anything

<Terminus> jsgotangco: i see... read your blog post about switching to freebsd/netbsd earlier.

<mangz74> examples of little things we could do to promote ubuntu...

<jsgotangco> well i used to do bsd a while back at work

<Kawaii-Panda> yeah i remember clicking on that link too.

<mangz74> print out posters...make copies and post it in schools

<mangz74> webcafe

<mangz74> and a lot of other public places...

<mangz74> magpamudmud tayo ng ubuntu-cds in schools and internet cafe

<Kawaii-Panda> i once gave out free cds i received to my dormmates in cebu. but the most striking question they gave was - "what are the advantages?"

<Kawaii-Panda> this question might apply to these netcafes too - why should they use ubuntu?

<Jucato> pinakamahirap yan for netcafe's

<Terminus> yep.

<Kawaii-Panda> pero me nakita ako sa me tup malapit na cafe gamit nila pure ubuntu

<Terminus> i think promotions would work better if they were targeted, playing on the strengths of ubuntu. nevermind those which cannot be served by ubuntu as of the moment.

<Terminus> that'd cross cafe's off the list.

<Jucato> yeah, pero for sure pure educational/professional business yun. ang problema ay yung MMORPG's

<Kawaii-Panda> meron din sa may sm manila malapit ubuntu saka windows, maraming student nagreklamo kc d sila familiar kaya mas marami pa rin nagsishift na lang sa winxp pcs.

<jsgotangco> its always a question between benefits and features which most people fail to distinguish

<mangz74> kawaii-panda:you from cebu?

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: gumagana naman ung RO via wine, pati warcraft at CS. we need to promote OSS games too though

<Kawaii-Panda> mangz74: hindi po - pero dun ho ako nagaral dati

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: what RO? private server of course?

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: any RO. the client works 100%. andun sya sa platinum list ng wine.

<Terminus> that's why i suggested the whole support front issue earlier. once you get businesses to deploy, then you can make a case for schools to use ubuntu, and since the students need it now, net cafes would have to deploy them too.

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: no MMORPG game that uses GameGuard can run on Wine

<Kawaii-Panda> warcraft works fine too, pero may reported na sound problems on some sound cards.

<Jucato> it always fails at some point during the login

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: nothing alsaconf won't fix, which sadly isn't in ubuntu.

<Kawaii-Panda> Jucato: i dunno, havent played ROph for a very long time. but there may be a workaround for it. maybe some ports are just blocked etc.

<jsgotangco> its very easy for the publisher to circumvent any mechanism to make the game playable on non-native systems

<jsgotangco> since its an online game

<mangz74> if we are talking about internet cafes...

<Jucato> Kawaii-Panda: no. it's really something with GameGuard. the only version of RO I was able to play on Linux before was a private/unofficial server (which is also illegal)

<mangz74> why not we develop a cafe management software based on ubuntu

<Jucato> jsgotangco: true. the problem is that the publishers are not that interested yet

<mangz74> doing the server part

<jsgotangco> so the problem is pretty much have the publishers publish their wares to other systems

<mangz74> time keeping, bookkeeping...etc etc

<Kawaii-Panda> even if we do that the primary market of net cafes is gaming and internet and word processing.

<mangz74> basically offering cafe owners a chance to try out ubuntu and later on have wkstns on their cafe

<Kawaii-Panda> we can only win on the net market, but we need flash to work on our side.

<mangz74> internet and word processing ubuntu can cover

<mangz74> gaming..i'm iffy on that

<Kawaii-Panda> gaming is hard and word processing - the users are not very familiar with OO.o yet.

<mangz74> but there's alrdy a lot of work done on that...just needs a lot of testing on our part

<mangz74> it really isn't that hard to migrate OO.o....all they want is to type....as long as they can see the letters on the screen and type...they don't care

<Terminus> the problem with something as simple as word processing is interoperability with MS word.

<mangz74> i know for this for a fact coz i have been an internet cafe owner

<Terminus> that's only an issue if they're moving files around.

<mangz74> we even experimented on it one time

<Jucato> word processing is easy. OO.o almost looks and behaves like MS Word

<Terminus> otoh, it can actually serve as a lock in for students to go to only your net cafe. =D

<mangz74> we had links on the desktop on our cafe...ms word icons...but actually what opens was open office

<Kawaii-Panda> mangz74: its really more than that. page properties, bullets, etc. the advanced word users would be scared to take the jump. not to mention OO is slower in taking pages from webpages, which is what most students i observe are doing

<mangz74> ms word excel powerpoint...---> all pointing to OO.o apps

<mangz74> guess what...they didn't even notice the difference

<jsgotangco> i could say most advance users of office are using it in their offices/homes rather than a rental place

<Kawaii-Panda> hey - how about ms. access?

<mangz74> and who does ms access on cafes?

<jsgotangco> yuck

<mangz74> if u r are doing ms acces..

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<Kawaii-Panda> jsgotangco: most are advanced users because they got training, they dont necessarily own a pc on their homes.

<mangz74> most probably you have a computer at home

<mangz74> the people (maybe just on my cafe) just want to type and print

<Kawaii-Panda> :)

<mangz74> and surf

<mangz74> and chat

<Kawaii-Panda> and play games

<mangz74> and play games

<jsgotangco> i wouldn't know much..and advance user is most likely to have availaed of the skill profesionally instead of at school

<mangz74> they don't care about bullets and page properties

<jsgotangco> considering today's education with regards to IT on most schools touch only basics

<Kawaii-Panda> jsgotangco: most women users prefer school. most male practitioners are adventuristic, like me, and prefer to go their own way.

<mangz74> they're for the advance users who most probably are like you and me with computers

<jsgotangco> i'd still subscribe to the idea that a business must invest on something if they want to be in the running and not just look for an alternative because its cheaper..the reason why cafes are having a hard time to switch is because they have lowered their prices because of mushrooming of the same without even thinking of their investments, and relied a lot on the comfort of piracy or so they thought

<Kawaii-Panda> piracy is another problem here. it gives our net market chance to grow, but ruins our software industry. and maybe thats where ubuntu could fill in.

<jsgotangco> well its a vicious cycle

<jsgotangco> yesterday it was redhat that is supposed to fill the void

<jsgotangco> now its ubuntu

<Kawaii-Panda> a cycle we could choose to penetrate. but then our league of CSers and DOTAers would suffer.

<Terminus> well, i don't think the issue is the interface. i know a net cafe here uses it too. the real problem for me is MS word <-> OO.o interoperability.

<Kawaii-Panda> ?

<jsgotangco> Terminus: yeah its pretty ugly

<Kawaii-Panda> but you can change those icons right?

<Kawaii-Panda> arent they using the default icons of the current theme you are using?

<jsgotangco> changing the icons only change the interface, not the core functionality or compatibility

<Terminus> students typically have formatting stuff in their papers, and word processing is probably the biggest app used by students, aside from a web browser and gaming. it's a problem if they work at school, and then they work at the cafe, and then work at school again, etc.

<Kawaii-Panda> not really, OO.o supports Office formats, and i heard rumors Office 2007 would open OO.o files too since its an open interface anyway

<Terminus> Kawaii-Panda: support != it just works

<jsgotangco> Kawaii-Panda: support != full functionality

<Terminus> although admittedly, i haven't tried throwing files between ms office and OO.o lately.

<jsgotangco> its still reverse engineered sgml rendering

<Kawaii-Panda> if you just add bullets and stuff, not pivottables, macros, forms, etc. support would be just okay for students i think.

<jsgotangco> and OpenXML is an MS initiative if i remember correctly

<Jucato> support != looks the same

<jsgotangco> sure simple formatting is okj

<Kawaii-Panda> jsgotangco: it is?

<jsgotangco> i believe so

<jsgotangco> because ODF is entirely different

<jsgotangco> but Office 2007 support for ODF is an option and not a feature

<jsgotangco> (a seprate plugin perhaps)

<jsgotangco> (because if they did make it a feature, they are admitting that ODF is a standard)

<jsgotangco> (defeating any basic reasoning why we should still use Office)

<Kawaii-Panda> i missed cebu, they have their own lug - http://www.cegnulug.org/. PLUG requires membership :(

<mangz74> going on another topic

<mangz74> cegnulug.org

<mangz74> hahaha

<Kawaii-Panda> pretty cool play on words too, cegnulug - sinulog festival lol

<mangz74> i used to be active on their forums

<mangz74> anyway...

<mangz74> i think before we burst out and promote ubuntu...we should i think be a solid entity first

<jsgotangco> i dont miss cebu

<Kawaii-Panda> ive never been there because i moved before i knew it was there on the first place. the only cebu site ive been active in was istorya.net , that was pretty cool. i cant compare it to yehey.com!

<jsgotangco> but i miss the cebuanas

<mangz74> we should solidify our group

<Kawaii-Panda> i miss ngohiong.

<mangz74> hahhaa

<jsgotangco> especially the ones i met at the mall and played pool with

<mangz74> taena nyo...puro kayo miss cebu...ako bisaya...no comment na lang

<mangz74> i don't wanna be homesick

<Terminus> jsgotangco: hehe, your lonely trip to cebu? =)

<Kawaii-Panda> i really do, i like the sauce and its so damn cheap and the puso - ahh... its making me hungry

<Kawaii-Panda> sigh...

<jsgotangco> hahaha

<mangz74> so stop making me fell homesick

<mangz74> :(

<mangz74> fell? --feel pala

<Kawaii-Panda> mangz74: where you right now?

<mangz74> bisaya talaga

<jsgotangco> cebu cebu...yada da da da da cebu cebu

<mangz74> sa tabi-tabi

<Kawaii-Panda> mangz74: ill make you hate it :) aw... i miss the gang wars on the news, the vigilantes, the marijuana free trade, the, what else...

<zakame> back; what iddid I miss?

<Kawaii-Panda> oh yeah, ill miss the net cafe where me and my friends once slept on when we were locked out of the dorm :)

<jsgotangco> i miss the huge monstrosity called the cebu international convention center and i hope to see it again in 2 weeks during the asean summit

<jsgotangco> and the monstrous traffic it causes

<zakame> jsgotangco: miss the international geriatric conf?

<jsgotangco> not at all

<mangz74> hate it?

<mangz74> hahaha

<mangz74> gang wars???

<Kawaii-Panda> i miss the usc church... and the yfc women there who are too friendly to talk...

<mangz74> i miss those dude...those were the fun part running to avoid getting stab by AKP and TGP

<Terminus> zakame: got stuck on mission/vision and sort of switched to discussing promotion mainly.

<mangz74> hahahah

<Kawaii-Panda> mangz74: crips, bloods, tau gamma, akrho, all in the philippine star.

<mangz74> the vigilantes?

<Kawaii-Panda> i mean sun star. ugh

<mangz74> hahaha

<mangz74> marijuana...i miss that too :0

<zakame> i miss the internets

<Kawaii-Panda> yeah, they killed a hundred already, and people dont report them because they want those dead people to die.

<zakame> do they have superpowers? super cow powers, in particular?

<jsgotangco> zakame: i can host you if you want, but its a pretty limited grid server on debian

<zakame> jsgotangco: what, make me an adopted Gotangco? :D

<jsgotangco> zakame: i mean your own domain

<zakame> oh, right, that would be nice, assuming I have already paid for my domain :P

<zakame> which is not, at the moment

<Terminus> zakame: .tk? =D

<jsgotangco> well get over it and pay it with your 16th month at o&b

<zakame> I'll settly that in the next week, when I'm free now; tomorrow's my last day at o&b

<Terminus> zakame: you're leaving o&b?

<zakame> Terminus: no, zakame.net

<zakame> Terminus: well, my contract with them is about done, 3 months

<dekoy> ba me cute panda pa

<dekoy> hehe

<dekoy> morning

<Kawaii-Panda> dekoy: where?

<zakame> yo dekoy

<dekoy> hahaha

<jsgotangco> lol

<dekoy> good morning everybody

* dekoy slaps dektulog tulog ng tulog

<Terminus> zakame: oh... it's a contractual thing pala. thought they hired you talaga.

<jsgotangco> zakame: and they won't renew?

<jsgotangco> zakame: you want to work with me?

<zakame> Terminus: calen offered me, but I have some things back in Daet to pick up first

<jsgotangco> bah

<zakame> jsgotangco: give an offer :D

<Terminus> zakame: oh ok. =)

<dekoy> bwahahaha

<dekoy> bakit ako jerome di mo i hire?

<mangz74> dekoy:hust

<jsgotangco> send me your resume first

<dekoy> mas fafa mo na pala ngayon si zakame huhuhuhuhuhu

<mangz74> hush

<jsgotangco> dekoy: we don't hire americans

<mangz74> hahhaha

<dekoy> mangz74: wahhhhhhhhhhhhh me ibang fafa na si fafa jerome ko

<mangz74> brown american

<jsgotangco> especially brown ones

<mangz74> hahaha

<jsgotangco> bewahaha

* dekoy slaps is a proud filam

<dekoy> bah

<dekoy> im still pinoy

<zakame> sige, I'll send you my updated resume

<mangz74> ayaw na sayo...ayaw mo kasi padalhan ng psiii

<jsgotangco> yo niggah

<mangz74> hahha

<dekoy> n*** my ass

<dekoy> hehe

<zakame> I recently added c# and .net crash-course hacking, aside from c++

<jsgotangco> hehe

<dekoy> wow

<jsgotangco> zakame: well i dunno if they're going to be useful here at the foundation

<jsgotangco> id rather hire someone who can actually teach people here HOW to use a computer ;)

<dekoy> mangz

<dekoy> fafa mustasa

<dekoy> nag cyber monday ka ?

<zakame> jsgotangco: does that involve breaking the great firewall? :P

<jsgotangco> no

<jsgotangco> if you do that ill suspend you

<jsgotangco> wahaha

<zakame> hahaha

<jsgotangco> because its not your ass thats going to be trashed but mine

<zakame> exactly :D

<jsgotangco> i remember that angelica panganiban pics issue yesterday

<jsgotangco> bwahha

<jsgotangco> secret

<dekoy> tae na

<dekoy> kala ko ba puro lalaki na gusto mo

<dekoy> bakit babae nanamn yang nasa isip mo

<mangz74> dekoy:wala pre...wala ako pera...dapat magipon pang bayad sa down sa bahay

<Terminus> REMINDER: MOTU session starts in 2 minutes at #ubuntu-classroom. =)

<jsgotangco> may maganda na barista sa starbucks sa abs

<dekoy> MOTU ?

<butiki> It has been said that MOTU is Master(s) of the Universe, or the maintainers of packages in universe and multiverse, dekoy

<zakame> sige, a resume later,

<jsgotangco> ang cute cute cute cute cute

<jsgotangco> ang cute cute cute cute cute

<jsgotangco> ang cute cute cute cute cute

<jsgotangco> ang cute cute cute cute cute

<zakame> more pics at 4chan then

<mangz74> jsg:sino may access sa ubuntu-ph website ngayon? can we add a module?

<butiki> News from slashdot: How They Make LEGO Bricks

<jsgotangco> mangz74: zakame

<dekoy> galing talaga ng xen

<dekoy> mwahaha

<jsgotangco> dekoy: http://jerome.gotangco.com

<jsgotangco> hehehe

<zakame> mangz74: what you want to add?

<dekoy> nyeta ka

<jsgotangco> i-host ko na dito yung busylinux

<dekoy> ayaw mo na ng jerome.linuxfiesta.com

<dekoy> :(

<jsgotangco> este

<jsgotangco> linuxfiesta pala

<dekoy> okay

<dekoy> hehe

<dekoy> kala ko tinalikuran mo na pag ibig nating dalawa

<jsgotangco> chinese na pala may ari ng busylinux nyeta ka

<dekoy> korean

<jsgotangco> pero pano yan

<jsgotangco> bsd na ako

<jsgotangco> bwahaha

<dekoy> nyeata ka binenta mo yung busylinux natin sa koreano

<dekoy> i don't care i use winxp

<jsgotangco> taena mo ikaw nakinabaing

<dekoy> di naman ako nag lilinux

<jsgotangco> pati siguro gra.ph ikaw ang may sala

<dekoy> andito lang ako para mangulo

<dekoy> bwahaha

<dekoy> sayang gra.ph talaga

<dekoy> nyeta

<jsgotangco> dekoy: ano transfer ko na?

<dekoy> do you have access to it ?

<jsgotangco> bigay ko sayo dns

<jsgotangco> wala ikaw ang regsitgrar di ba

<dekoy> oh gusto mo ikaw na mag host ng dns

<dekoy> or gusto mo ng A record ?

<jsgotangco> errr

<dekoy> apra sila na bahala sa dns

<dekoy> ?

<jsgotangco> i dunno

<dekoy> para less work

<dekoy> reliable naman dns ng godaddy

<jsgotangco> o sige

<jsgotangco> teka

<jsgotangco> basta point mo sa bibigay ko sayo

<jsgotangco> sa grid ko sa media temple

<dekoy> give me the ip address turo ko A record pati www

<jsgotangco> teka hanapin ko

<dekoy> oki doki

<dekoy> cp -av dev1/* dev2/

<mangz74> zakame:sorry...i have to work for a while there...i was wondering if you guys want to add like image module or something

<jsgotangco> taena tong mga to, linuxfiesta tapos di naman linux user

<dekoy> bilis mag replicate ng server

<dekoy> bwahahahha

<dekoy> i love winxp

<dekoy> saka solaris

<dekoy> solaris vs linux?

<dekoy> you must be joking

<dekoy> bwahahah

<mangz74> para may gallery tayo or something para sa mga activities

<jsgotangco> solaris ako

<jsgotangco> hehe

<dekoy> hehe

<jsgotangco> tapos bsd

<dekoy> bash-2.05$ uname -a

<dekoy> SunOS cars-4 5.9 Generic_112233-11 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100

<dekoy> :)

<zakame> mangz74: sige I'll add it later

<jsgotangco> Primary Nameserver: ns1.mediatemple.net

<jsgotangco> Primary Nameserver IP: 64.207.129.18

<jsgotangco> Secondary Nameserver: ns2.mediatemple.net

<jsgotangco> Secondary Nameserver I