<elkbuntu> if you dont want the rain, australia will happily accept

<purserj> see thats why NZ should become the next state, that way our average rainfall would skyrocket

<elkbuntu> rofl

<ibeardslee> yes but we~don't need ours decreasing

<kiwistar> aussie can have all our rain from up here

<kiwistar> i've tried 5 times to try and run the ubuntu live cd on my laptop and each time once it has loaded all i get is a blank screen???? is there any reason for this????

<elkbuntu> kiwistar, maybe the video card isnt compatible? what type is it?

<kiwistar> elkbuntu: i'll check one mo

<ajmitch> probably some ATI card that has been known to have issues

<kiwistar> the graphics card is an ati mobility radeon X700

<ajmitch> ati, what a surprise

<kiwistar> what???? is this a bad graphics card???

<hads> mattb: ping

<mattb> pong

<hads> You wanted me yesterday?

<mattb> hmm, I was going to ask you if you had access to the linksys provisioning tools (spc, etc)

<mattb> but I found them anyway

<hads> Ah. I was down in Wanaka for the weekend.

<mattb> sounds like a good weekend :)

<hads> Was pretty good. Didn't do a lot though, just sat around and drank too much.

<Nameeater> kiwistar: its not 'bad' but its poorly supported in linux

<Nameeater> tho I guess in really does make it a bad card

<Nameeater> -in

<ibeardslee> kiwistar: I had a problem a while ago with laptop (it was a win2k install) that it would 'die' when detecting the video because it would go to the CRT and wait ... the LCD being blank. Now with laptop installs I always (well most of the time) change the bios to use LCD only.

<ajmitch> there's a known issue with some ATI cards & the live cd, I believe

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<Plug> Hi all

<hads> Lo

<Plug> anyone got logs far enough back to get the carefully crafted old topic

<Plug> ?

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<Plug> Thanks

<hads> np

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<Plug> now: time for an IRC meeting

<Plug> good/bad days for everyone?

<Plug> I see :)

<elkbuntu> kiwistar, its not that there is anything wrong with the card... however the manufacturer i cannot say the same about

<kiwistar> not a bad day just got back from a delivery run

<kiwistar> elkbuntu, thanks for that. I'm just wondering what I can do to make it work on my laptop with my graphics card???

<elkbuntu> kiwistar, do you get to go through the xserver setup process?

<kiwistar> elkbuntu: i'll get into the boot system of the laptop now one mo

<kiwistar> elkbuntu: how does one get to it that way. i just simply reboot my laptop and change the boot up process from hd to cd and go from there

<elkbuntu> kiwistar, can you get to a prompt at all?

<kiwistar> elkbuntu: it's going thru the live cd boot process right now

<elkbuntu> kiwistar, have you installed it to hdd?

<elkbuntu> or is it just the livecd you're booting?

<kiwistar> running it off the live cd, but want to install it to my d drive on my laptop so i have both windows and linux

<elkbuntu> well, if you can get to a prompt with the livecd, let me know

<kiwistar> i'm haveing to reboot now

<elkbuntu> or, if you get to the blank screen, try ctrl+alt+f2

<kiwistar> ok i'll try that and see

<kiwistar> i have the following prompt up ubuntu@ubuntu:~$

<elkbuntu> ok, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

<kiwistar> this will work on the live cd

<elkbuntu> yes, the livecd only touches ram until you let it mess with other places

<kiwistar> it says that it must be run as root???

<elkbuntu> just do 'sudo' before the cmd

<elkbuntu> sorry

<kiwistar> thats ok

<elkbuntu> when you reboot, this will all be lost, but we'll know if we've isolated the problem

<kiwistar> command not found is what it is telling me.

<kiwistar> i've used the command sudo reboot to reboot and then go from there

<elkbuntu> o.O

<elkbuntu> you typed 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?

<kiwistar> yes and it said that command was not found

<kiwistar> please hang on

<kiwistar> i typed in man sudo_root, but dont know how to get out of it

<elkbuntu> q

<elkbuntu> the q key

<kiwistar> thank you

<kiwistar> got the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to finally work and then choose auto detection for a video card driver for the x server and ati is highlighted so now pressing enter unless i'm suppose to

<kiwistar> unless i'm not supose to

<kiwistar> for an ati graphics card what is the normal recommended memory in kB it is normally configured with

<elkbuntu> just hit enter

<kiwistar> kernal framebuffer device interface should that be turned on or left off???

<elkbuntu> leave it off

<kiwistar> ok

<kiwistar> keyboard model is set at pc104 should i leave it as that or should i change it????

<kiwistar> and i am sorry for all these questions but i want to make sure that everything i do is correct and not going to screw up my computer

<elkbuntu> 104 is correct

<kiwistar> thank you.

<elkbuntu> unless you use a european or uk keyboard

<elkbuntu> sorry for the delayed responses, im kvm switchign between pcs

<kiwistar> thats ok i used to do that at my last job swetchin between 3 pc hard drives depending on what was required

<kiwistar> i got to a color selection type screen and hit enter and it came up with the following: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/x11/xorg.cong.20061127170646 and then it has ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ below that. is that right???

<kiwistar> sorry cong should be conf

<elkbuntu> yeah

<kiwistar> where do i goto from here

<elkbuntu> it's just saying it's saved your choices, and there is a backup

<elkbuntu> are you at a prompt?

<kiwistar> yip at a promp ready and waiting teacher:-)

<elkbuntu> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?

<kiwistar> ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake LTS

<elkbuntu> try: gdm

<kiwistar> ok

<kiwistar> sudo gdm or just gdm

<elkbuntu> actually, sudo killall gdm first

<kiwistar> ok

<elkbuntu> then just gdm

<kiwistar> what will that do???

<elkbuntu> hopefully start gnome desktop manager

<kiwistar> this killall gdm???

<kiwistar> ok

<elkbuntu> kill it if it's already running, so the new one can start with new config

<kiwistar> nothing just went to another prompt

<elkbuntu> did it flicker about a heap first?

<kiwistar> nope

<elkbuntu> hmm

<elkbuntu> try 'startx'

<kiwistar> whole lot of words over the screen then screen went blank

<elkbuntu> goddamnit!

<kiwistar> scrolling down the screen

<elkbuntu> so you're not even flicking back to prompt?

<kiwistar> no no prompt, last line is as follows: (**) RADEON(0): ok, leaving now...

<elkbuntu> aha...

<kiwistar> what??

<elkbuntu> you've got the error log up then?

<elkbuntu> maybe

<kiwistar> looks like it yes

<kiwistar> saying something about unable to open /dev/wacom????

<elkbuntu> normal for laptops iirc

<elkbuntu> do any of the lines have (EE) next to them?

<kiwistar> iirc????

<elkbuntu> If I Remember Correctly

<kiwistar> yes a line says the following: (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such file or directory

<kiwistar> I'll remember that one

<elkbuntu> you selected a serial mouse?

<elkbuntu> or something?

<kiwistar> which ever one was highlighted,

<elkbuntu> that would have been ps2... nm

<elkbuntu> just let me check up something,

<kiwistar> ok as i only have a usb mouse connected

<kiwistar> ok

<elkbuntu> that shouldnt matter

<kiwistar> brb need to start packing up the mother in laws shop

<elkbuntu> ok

<elkbuntu> when you get back, do 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)' and tell me what other than the wacom thing comes up

<kiwistar> nothing came up there is no prompt at all????

<elkbuntu> it may take some time

<elkbuntu> if that hasnt worked, ive got no clue

<elkbuntu> unless of course you actually did the ' marks around the commands

<kiwistar> nothing

<kiwistar> i have no idea i've just done again what was advised and still nothing. i might wait and try this again with my kubuntu cd's when they arrive

<kiwistar> i'm off catch you all tomorrow

<kiwistar> morning all

<ibeardslee> morning. did you sort your laptop out?

<kiwistar> no luck at all on that front. I'm going to try again with kubuntu once my disk's arrive

<ibeardslee> bummer, some work great and some don't. my 3 year old toshiba works great - true it only has some sort of simple intel video. but it does the job just right :-)

<kiwistar> I'll get it eventuly

<ibeardslee> have you checked www.linux-laptop.net?

<hads> I'm reluctantly tracking Feisty on my desktop now, it seems to work at the moment.

<kiwistar> I think i have the link some where on a bit of paper but not checked it out yet.

<ibeardslee> Feisty ... oh oh more toys?

<hads> It had a fix for syncing my Treo with Kontact, so I upgraded rather than backporting the fix :)

<hads> It's quite a bit earlier in the development cycle than I would normally but oh well.

<kiwistar> i think i have found the site i need, hope this all goes well.

<Kiwistarintl> when downloading say kubuntu do you use the alt or desktop downloads?????

<kiwistar> back again

* kiwistar wonders why he is runing around like a flamin yoyo

* kiwistar is going to smash all cd's if he can not get kubuntu 6.06 to load or install on laptop

<kiwistar> i got a fatal server error after i used the command startx and sudo start x from the prompt???

<kiwistar> that is after going thru the whole process from yesterday but this time with kubuntu 6.06 and following the process that elkbuntu helped me with

<kiwistar> please excuse any strange messages from me as i have 3 kittens on my desk

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