| <Phlosten> allo all | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya Phlosten, how are you? | |
| <Phlosten> good | |
| <Phlosten> how you doing merlin-linux ? | |
| <merlin-linux> good | |
| <merlin-linux> :-) | |
| <Phlosten> hmm, debian doesnt have a k6 kernel | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: yeah you have to compile your own | |
| <Phlosten> i have debian unstable on my k6-2/500 and the 486 kernel is not playing well | |
| <merlin-linux> oh | |
| <Phlosten> just an annoying keyboard problem, from what I can see its a kernel issue | |
| <cafuego> Phlosten: Eww, at least use the 586 kernel | |
| <cafuego> Prolly be fine with a 686 too | |
| <Phlosten> cafuego, cannot see a 586 kernel | |
| <cafuego> hmm, there _will_ be a 686 one though. The k6-2 is compatible with that in theory | |
| <Phlosten> i can see the 686 | |
| <Phlosten> i'll try the 686 one | |
| <Phlosten> not quite as 'Eww' | |
| <Tatey> fella's | |
| <Phlosten> howdy Tatey | |
| <Phlosten> how goes it? | |
| <Tatey> good mate, yourself? How oyu finding Arch? | |
| <Phlosten> havent used it since yesterday | |
| <Phlosten> been doing some work in Ubuntu | |
| <Phlosten> but otherwise its good | |
| <Tatey> nice mate | |
| <Phlosten> its a 686 kernel aint it? | |
| * Phlosten ponders | |
| <Tatey> what is? | |
| <Phlosten> cafuego, 686 no go on a k6 | |
| <cafuego> d'oh | |
| <Phlosten> however upgrading my kernel to the latest one which it had missed solved my problem | |
| <Tatey> K6 = i586 | |
| * Phlosten watches the K6 with 486 fly along | |
| * cafuego intently stares at his new MIPS machine | |
| <Tatey> hah, "My reason for Debian over Ubuntu is that I like to root" | |
| <Tatey> what's wrong with sudo -i or sudo su | |
| <Phlosten> easy enough to get sudo going | |
| <Phlosten> Tatey, its called 'stuck in the mud' | |
| <rendhalver> hey kids | |
| <Tatey> because I work with so many Ubuntu boxes, I just install sudo on every box I use. It's easier | |
| <Phlosten> i think its safer, most of the time i forget sudo and a task fails, and i get to check it over again :) | |
| <merlin-linux> does anyone know what a imac g3 233 is worth? | |
| <Tatey> merlin-linux: $100-200? | |
| <Phlosten> about $10 | |
| <Phlosten> :) | |
| <Tatey> look on eBay | |
| <Phlosten> maybe more if you sell it as a paperweight | |
| <Phlosten> j/k | |
| <merlin-linux> i have one here complete with box install/restore cd's | |
| * cafuego has a set of 350MHz ones | |
| <rendhalver> merlin-linux: does it still have a cdrom? | |
| <Phlosten> merlin-linux, what os version do it run? | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: They make EXCELLENT ltsp clients | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: yes it fully works | |
| <rendhalver> mac os 8.1 if it has original software | |
| <merlin-linux> the only thing it is missing is the usb mouse | |
| <rendhalver> i have one here but its missing the cdrom | |
| <cafuego> those mice sucked, so no problem there | |
| <Phlosten> i have always wanted a mac | |
| <Phlosten> the puck mice? | |
| <cafuego> yep | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: yes, you like to buy it | |
| <DarkMageZ> i want one of those | |
| <cafuego> use a $15 logitech | |
| <Phlosten> first thing you do with those is smash it with a sledge hammer | |
| <DarkMageZ> the puck mouse | |
| <cafuego> DarkMageZ: to use??? | |
| <DarkMageZ> cafuego, nope. i'd place in around my computer as if i actually use it, and hide the real mouse when i'm not | |
| <merlin-linux> reason why i asking what it worth, as i want to put it up on ebay | |
| <rendhalver> merlin-linux: is it the original blue one? | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: check ebay, see what similar imacs are going for. | |
| <cafuego> Not much I imagine. | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: yes it the blue one | |
| <rendhalver> thats the first iMac ever built | |
| <rendhalver> so it could be considered a collectors item :) | |
| <merlin-linux> cafuego: there is only on 233 g3 on ebay and the starting bid is at 40$ and buy it now price of 100$ | |
| <cafuego> In between US$10 and $25 | |
| <rendhalver> bur if its not for a collector it wont be worth much | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: 32Mb ram? | |
| <merlin-linux> cafuego: it got 64MB ram | |
| <cafuego> cool | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: iirc it the orignal imac | |
| <merlin-linux> i have all the original boxes the imac came in | |
| <rendhalver> now thats scary | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: thats how i was given it about 12 months ago | |
| * cafuego has one of those sets, but for the 350MHz SCSI G3 server. | |
| * Phlosten wanders off to watch Ice Age 2, bbl | |
| <merlin-linux> friends sister upgraded and gave it to her brother, and then he passed it on to me | |
| <rendhalver> i would turn it into an ltsp client | |
| <rendhalver> or work out how to plug it into your tv | |
| * merlin-linux just wants to get some room back and more it on | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: i have enough computers here that i use without another one | |
| <rendhalver> or install linux on it and give it to your mum | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: ubuntu runs so slow on it | |
| <rendhalver> yeah it would | |
| <rendhalver> hence using it as an ltsp client | |
| <merlin-linux> rendhalver: i think my mum happy with her 3.6GHz pc | |
| <rendhalver> :) | |
| <rendhalver> if you do stick it on ebay make sure you put "Original Bondi Blue" somewhere in the description | |
| *** purserj_ is now known as purser | |
| *** purser is now known as purserj | |
| <cafuego> yay | |
| <cafuego> At approx 8:20am Brisba | |
| <cafuego> ne Time, a major power disruption in Brisbane caused loss of power to many areas, includin | |
| <cafuego> g the Oz Servers datacentre. | |
| <merlin-linux> and i have a matched pair of slot 1 300MHz cpu's too, what would they be worth? | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: $1 | |
| <cafuego> Mind you, I have a mobo that would fit both :-) | |
| <merlin-linux> eek | |
| <merlin-linux> cafuego: make me a good offer | |
| <cafuego> So if you mail 'em to me for $1 each as standby replacement for the current set.... | |
| <rendhalver> cafuego: yeah my server hosting place got hit by that but luckily they have a scary ups | |
| <cafuego> rendhalver: Apparently the generator at mine gave out after an hour | |
| <cafuego> rendhalver: They reckon they're waiting for a replacment generator atm. | |
| <rendhalver> crap | |
| <cafuego> aye | |
| <cafuego> primary mx/dns | |
| <cafuego> who you with? | |
| <rendhalver> depressing this was the gatway was on a the not quite as scary ups | |
| <rendhalver> eis.net | |
| <rendhalver> its run by an original apana boy | |
| <rendhalver> if that means anything to you | |
| <cafuego> more or less | |
| <merlin-linux> what is 608MB of ECC pc100 sdram worth? | |
| <cafuego> next to nothing | |
| <rendhalver> naff all | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: plug it into that imac :-) | |
| <merlin-linux> you all not very helpful | |
| <merlin-linux> cafuego: hehe | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: Well, is that 608Mb in sticks of 16Mb each? | |
| <rendhalver> its very very old so i cant look up the price in my wholesaler catalog | |
| <rendhalver> more value as a cool geeky keyring | |
| <purserj> merlin-linux: what box did it come out of? | |
| <merlin-linux> cafuego: there 3 x 32MB, 2 x 64MB, 1 x 128MB, 1 x 256MB | |
| <cafuego> $10 for the 256 if yer lucky | |
| <merlin-linux> purserj: i was using it in a IBM server | |
| * purserj ponders asking what happened to the server then trips over the 530 he's got next to his desk | |
| <merlin-linux> purserj: i gave the servers to a good home for parts | |
| <merlin-linux> i had IBM servers that were full scsi | |
| <merlin-linux> they were dual pentium pro 200MHz | |
| <merlin-linux> socket 8 | |
| <cafuego> merlin-linux: 256Mb of brand new PC133 is ~ 45 | |
| <merlin-linux> cafuego: i going to sell the ram all in one lot | |
| * cafuego doubts you'll get $20 for it - but then, someone else may be in dire need of small sticks of ram. | |
| <Changlinn> heh | |
| * Changlinn had to look for 512mb ddr ecc ram last night and it took an hour to sort through all the sticks | |
| <Changlinn> once I have my new server setup I'll be giving some away | |
| *** Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | |
| <b_d_p> are the 'open week' irc sessions being logged and hosted anywhere? | |
| *** Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | |
| <Phlosten> feelin' hot hot hot | |
| <Tatey> yea, it's warm today | |
| <hysterio> one good thing about being at work, aircon :) | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio, indeed | |
| <Phlosten> we have a split system in one room, not really good enough for the whole house though :/ | |
| <Tatey> I don't have any airconditioning, at all | |
| <hysterio> time for an upgrade ;) | |
| <elkbuntu> mmm ducted coooooling :) | |
| <hysterio> elkbuntu: am I correct in my calculations that your open day thing is at 2am sydney time? | |
| <hysterio> s/day/week/ | |
| <elkbuntu> hysterio, you are correct | |
| <hysterio> ouch :( | |
| <elkbuntu> both of them | |
| <hysterio> i think someone asked before but I didnt catch the answer - are logs going to posted up at any stage? | |
| <elkbuntu> im sure they will be | |
| <hysterio> excellent | |
| * hysterio arches his fingers, Mr Burns style | |
| * pschulz01 goes 'Excellent' | |
| * purserj shoots hysterio, Maggie Simpson style | |
| * pschulz01 grabs the lolly-pop and runs | |
| <pschulz01> Wehoo! I found the 'payment' button for lca2007, and a bug. | |
| <hysterio> merry fishguts | |
| <pschulz01> and a happy new red bucket. | |
| <Phlosten> hmm | |
| <Phlosten> pschulz01, can you umm pay mine while you are there | |
| <cafuego> and mine, thankyou. | |
| <Phlosten> pschulz01 is a very giving kinda person :D | |
| * pschulz01 looks, but find that his credit card has run away screaming. | |
| <pschulz01> finds | |
| <Phlosten> howdy MatthewV | |
| <MatthewV> afternoon Phlosten | |
| <MatthewV> how are you today? | |
| <MatthewV> long time no talk ;) | |
| <Tatey> fella's | |
| <Phlosten> MatthewV, hot, hot and did i mention hot? | |
| <MatthewV> Phlosten, no you didnt | |
| <MatthewV> how hot is hot? | |
| <Phlosten> 34 atm | |
| <Phlosten> 30 in here | |
| <Phlosten> not as hot as yesterday though, but wed/thu are forecast for 41 | |
| <pschulz01> So who's up for some early morning IRC? | |
| <purserj> not 2am early | |
| <Tatey> [tate@fillets ~]$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature | |
| <Tatey> temperature: 65 C | |
| <pschulz01> Tatey: Crap! | |
| <Tatey> hah, my processor always runs warm | |
| <Phlosten> *installs lmsensors* | |
| <Tatey> pschulz01: you should be able to just cat that file | |
| <hysterio> acpi -t may also tell you | |
| <Phlosten> my cpu is at 47C | |
| <Phlosten> it hits 75 if I render stuff though | |
| <cafuego> youch | |
| <cafuego> what cpu is that? | |
| <Phlosten> the old AMD toaster oven model | |
| <Phlosten> Athlon XP 2000+ | |
| <Phlosten> hooray for athcool | |
| * cafuego looks into | |
| <Tatey> I've got an Athlon XP 2500+ | |
| <Tatey> under load, I'd be peaking around 75-78C right now | |
| <cafuego> 2400+ here | |
| <elkbuntu> both my decent machines have semprons | |
| <cafuego> my only decent machine has an amd64 3000+ | |
| <Tatey> I've got a Barton core, they run relatively cool for Athlon XP's. They're no comparrison to the Athlon 64's though | |
| <Tatey> my HTPC/File Server has an Athlon 64 3600+ X2 | |
| <Phlosten> i have mine underclocked atm | |
| <elkbuntu> lmsensors tells me: CPU: +98.6°F (37) Case: +95°F (35) | |
| <cafuego> CPU Temp: +28°C | |
| <cafuego> 8°C above ambient | |
| <cafuego> 's idle though | |
| <elkbuntu> mine would probably be cooler if there wasnt a crapload of paper sitting over half the airholes | |
| * cafuego read that completely wrong <heh> | |
| <hysterio> 45C - thinkpad t43 | |
| <elkbuntu> cafuego, heheh | |
| <ajmitch> hottest my athlon XP got to before rebooting was 93C | |
| <ajmitch> that box is now dead :) | |
| <Tatey> I think my BIOS is set to automatically shutdown if the processor reaches 80C | |
| <Phlosten> *burp* | |
| <Tatey> how rude | |
| <siccness> 100% on the practical exam :D | |
| <Phlosten> siccness, ;) | |
| <Phlosten> siccness, that was your IT exam thingie your were talking about yest? | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| <siccness> Not sure on the theoretical side tho | |
| <Phlosten> siccness, nice one | |
| <siccness> I got 70%+ on the multi-choice (theoretical) but not sure on the other two sections | |
| <Phlosten> siccness, what did they make you do? | |
| <siccness> I ended up getting a Novell practical exam | |
| <siccness> so i had to make a user, add it to a group | |
| <siccness> assign group to a folder | |
| <siccness> and distribute notepad | |
| <siccness> allowed time: 1hr 30mins, completed in: 5mins :D | |
| <Phlosten> heh | |
| <Phlosten> congratulation, you now qualify to be able to run microsoft | |
| <siccness> hardly | |
| <Phlosten> oh sorry, you need a clown nose | |
| <siccness> haha | |
| <siccness> some dickhead cheated in the theoretical exam | |
| <siccness> so i dobbed him in | |
| <siccness> fight nearly broke out :| | |
| <Tatey> oh snap | |
| *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <siccness> Yeah, apparently he didn't do one exam through the entire year. He's cheated on all of them apparently :| | |
| <Tatey> why bother going to tertiary education then? | |
| <siccness> Exactly | |
| <siccness> He'll end up with a piece of paper, but as soon as he's asked a question at a job interview "uhh, not sure" | |
| <hysterio> depends who's hiring | |
| <siccness> it's a network engineering course | |
| <siccness> if a question isnt asked, then the employer is a tool. | |
| <hysterio> exactly - its more common than you think | |
| <Phlosten> employers are generally all tools | |
| <siccness> I'd rather work for a business that asked me questions during an interview than one that didn't. | |
| <siccness> Atleast you know there's some form of professionalism. | |
| *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| * Phlosten whistles | |
| <siccness> bardot, budapest, alabama! | |
| <Phlosten> hmm, compiling your own does indeed take a while | |
| <Phlosten> own kernel | |
| <rendhalver> its quicker that compling your entire OS | |
| <Phlosten> :) | |
| * rendhalver used to run and develop gentoo | |
| <Phlosten> 'used to'? | |
| <rendhalver> yeah i got way too busy to keep doing it | |
| <Phlosten> seems to be a common scenario | |
| <rendhalver> yeah i have been noticing that kinda depressing | |
| <Phlosten> the 'novelty value' wears off with a lot of people | |
| <rendhalver> its still a really nice distro | |
| <rendhalver> but definitely way too tme consuming | |
| <rendhalver> especially when you run it on a slow old 466mhz p3 | |
| <Phlosten> i am compiling a kernel on a K5-2/500 | |
| <rendhalver> i am actually in the process of converting a gentoo box to ubuntu | |
| <Phlosten> K6-2/500 rather | |
| <rendhalver> yeah that does take a while | |
| <rendhalver> been there | |
| <Phlosten> debian does not have a K6 kernel available, only 486 | |
| <rendhalver> a 586 kernel should work shouldnt it? | |
| <Phlosten> no 586 in there either | |
| <rendhalver> crap | |
| <Phlosten> just 486 then 686 | |
| <Phlosten> hopefully I should see some performance benefit compiling my own | |
| <rendhalver> i cant remember what the k6 was equivelent to | |
| <rendhalver> there usually is | |
| <Tatey> K6 was suppose to Rival the Pentium 233 and early P2's | |
| <Phlosten> yup | |
| <Tatey> even though it was a generation behind | |
| <Tatey> the K6-3 was actually faster than equivilant P2's | |
| <Phlosten> there was K6 K6-2 and K6-3 | |
| <Phlosten> i have a K6-200 in the shed | |
| <rendhalver> i had an old K6 for a while | |
| <Phlosten> I dont think the K6-3 really had a big showing as everything then went bam! from that point | |
| <rendhalver> cant remember what Mhz it was thogh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How long does it take to crack WEP? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Woops I'm back. | |
| <siccness> rendhalver: you used to develop for gentoo, do you know johnm (lead kernel dev)? | |
| <MatthewV> hmm... all the things in #ubuntu-classroom are late at night... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> There's an #ubuntu-classroom? | |
| <adhoc> night in which part of the world? | |
| <onefang> It's always night in some part of the world. | |
| <siccness> Well of course. | |
| <adhoc> that was my point ;) | |
| <MatthewV> adhoc, night in my part of the world :( they're at 16.00UTC - 2100UTC :( | |
| <MatthewV> ah well | |
| <siccness> Damn Americans, sending us pathetic television programmes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Like what? | |
| <siccness> American Idol Dancing | |
| <siccness> (thats not the actual name i dont think) | |
| <siccness> but some crap like that | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So You Think You Can Dance | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why don't you try and pick up Japanese TV? That'd be fun :D | |
| <ctd> why doesn't ubuntu.org.au work yet? | |
| <onefang> Coz it's a slack arsed ozzie bludger? B-) | |
| <siccness> Aww, Davey Shafik's wife passed away :| | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Who? | |
| <siccness> google his name | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Nah I don't care that much | |
| <siccness> Well he's a PHP Developer, relatively well-known. Top bloke. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Well, The PHP License is a Free Software license, so he gets my seal of approval. | |
| <siccness> (I've actually known him for about 6 years). He actually stole my work :D | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stole or copied?" | |
| <siccness> i dunno, it was 6 years ago | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL OK | |
| <siccness> It wasn't actually PHP | |
| <siccness> It's funny how people I've known for about 5-6 years, all use Linux now (all of them came from a channel called #sweeet which was dedicated to SP). | |
| <siccness> SP = SouthPark | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Maybe they saw that episode where gates is shot in the head. | |
| <siccness> Well, doubtful. JohnM / ]-[elix (Gentoo Lead Kernel) came from #sweeet, Davey Shafik, Phusion (a member of some linux distro), PhaseBurn (linux admin) | |
| <Phlosten_> that show should have been renamed, 'So you think you can dodge this bullet?' | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <Phlosten_> Mythbusters was good | |
| <Phlosten_> holy crap, this kernel is still compiling | |
| <siccness> hasnt that taken over 1hr? | |
| <Phlosten_> more than 2 | |
| <Phlosten_> no wait | |
| <Phlosten_> nah i was right, almost 2 hours | |
| <siccness> Phlosten_: what box? | |
| <Phlosten_> k6-2/500 | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> 500mhz? | |
| <Phlosten_> maybe tomorrow? :) | |
| <siccness> that processor is like 6 yrs old + | |
| <rendhalver> Phlosten_: i have this vague idea kernel compling on my k-6 used to take a few hours | |
| <Phlosten_> indeed | |
| <Phlosten_> only 1 owner | |
| <Phlosten_> :) | |
| <Phlosten_> this machine has been the most stable I have even owned | |
| <siccness> overclock it 550 :) | |
| <siccness> that'll cut 1min off the time :) | |
| <Phlosten_> 550! are you nuts!! :P | |
| <siccness> haha | |
| <Phlosten_> there is probably quite a few modules I should have stripped out | |
| <siccness> next time disable ext2/3 :) | |
| <Phlosten_> anyone re-compiled their ubuntu kernels? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Once, when I tried to install Xen. Not sure if it worked though. | |
| <siccness> Welcome back Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <foxmulder881> Where did you go? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid Sleep mode in OS X. | |
| * adhoc backs up laptop in preparation for reinstall'a'thon | |
| <adhoc> the problem with large hard druves is they get full of stuff | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> True | |
| <adhoc> 40GB of cruft? will i ever need it again ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why do ogg streams still carry the .m3u extension? | |
| <adhoc> might be the streamer ... | |
| <adhoc> isn't .m3u the container that handles the streams? | |
| <adhoc> like a play list? | |
| * adhoc listens to the .ogg that was created at the multimedia jam thing at LCA2006 | |
| <adhoc> should have gone to that... | |
| * adhoc wants to make his own music =) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> like an internet radion stream | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> could be a playlist | |
| <siccness> adhoc: please dont | |
| <siccness> Why do I keep getting viagra spam :| | |
| <adhoc> siccness: why not? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's all those porn sites u look at | |
| <adhoc> siccness: erotica in, erotica out ;) | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <siccness> porn? me? no. | |
| <siccness> I'm too old for such garbage. | |
| <adhoc> siccness: i get around 1000 spam a day | |
| <siccness> I don't mind spam, because they're all obvious to delete. | |
| <Phlosten_> 1000? holy crap, do you deliberatly sign up to that stuff | |
| <siccness> It's just the viagra ones are shooting my confidence down | |
| <Phlosten_> hehe | |
| <adhoc> siccness: most of the spam i get is via postmaster as bounces | |
| <siccness> and you're quite welcome to replace the word confidence with the more unethical word ;) | |
| <siccness> well not unethical, but not appropriate :) | |
| <adhoc> siccness: why so, viagra is for folks that have absolutely no self essteem | |
| <realist> I'd average ~1k spam mail per day too | |
| <siccness> you win some you lose some i guess :) | |
| <siccness> most of my spam comes from bigpond haha | |
| <siccness> something about going over the 10GB download limit :P | |
| <adhoc> realist: i fixed a lot of LDAP entries and my daily mail load went from 3000-5000 messages a day down to 300-500 per day | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> That's a great, ironic catch 22 right there siccness. | |
| <siccness> <--not so good at understand ironic and catch 22 :P | |
| <siccness> adhoc: oo, you know about LDAP hey | |
| <adhoc> a little | |
| <siccness> adhoc: is ActiveDirectory/eDirectory just implementations of LDAP? | |
| <adhoc> more or less | |
| <siccness> Beautiful | |
| <realist> adhoc: can't imagine what was _so_ wrong, that you reduced your spam to 10% | |
| <adhoc> there are a buncha tools that sit on top pf X500 | |
| <siccness> x500 db | |
| <siccness> yea | |
| <adhoc> realist: not spam, all postmaster mail | |
| <realist> siccness: with it's own propriatry extensions, and propriatry kerebos implementation | |
| <siccness> realist: *woosh* | |
| <siccness> any examples of such extensions? | |
| <realist> siccness: basically they take existing standards, such as x500, and "improve" them | |
| <siccness> Yup, I see. | |
| <realist> so they're incompatible with every other system | |
| <adhoc> siccness: Windoes XP authentication is Kerbors 5 + M$ extentions | |
| <realist> pretty much standard operating proceedure for MSFT | |
| <siccness> ad being win, edirectory being netware | |
| <adhoc> realist: you will also find that GNU does too | |
| <adhoc> siccness: its called embrace and extend | |
| <siccness> Kerberos (NAP), Kerberos for Windows 3.1? Wtf? Why would you bother? | |
| <siccness> or am i missing something? | |
| <realist> adhoc: examples? (other than compilers) | |
| <adhoc> kerboros is old | |
| <adhoc> realist: many many command line applications | |
| <adhoc> --help | |
| <adhoc> --verbose | |
| <adhoc> --archive | |
| <realist> adhoc: UI doesn't have much to do with RFC and ISO | |
| <adhoc> realist: just look at emacs | |
| <siccness> Keep the discussion going, i learn from this shit :) | |
| <realist> Those inconsistencies are inherent with all unix, not just GNU | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Even FreeDOS? | |
| <realist> Hence why I like VMS / DCL | |
| <realist> Consistent and intuitive commands + arguments | |
| <siccness> realist: so that all arguments are consistent? | |
| <siccness> excuse the echo | |
| <realist> siccness: yup, and they're all based on english language, can be abbreviated to min of 3 or 4 chars | |
| <siccness> oh cool | |
| <adhoc> realist: you run VMS? | |
| <adhoc> you know there is an openvms | |
| <realist> openvms = vms | |
| <adhoc> strange but true ... | |
| <adhoc> you know there is an freevms | |
| <realist> it's not as open as you think ;p | |
| <adhoc> even more strange but true ... | |
| <siccness> is openvms free? | |
| <adhoc> siccness: no | |
| <realist> siccness: for hobbyists, yes. | |
| <siccness> well thats shit | |
| <adhoc> openvms is the product | |
| <realist> otherwise, it's _extremely_ expensive | |
| <adhoc> freevms is the really free one | |
| <siccness> so how does one become a hobbyist? | |
| <adhoc> get a vax | |
| <realist> like, the license costs more than the hardware kind of expensive | |
| <adhoc> its all downhill from there | |
| <siccness> eek :| | |
| <realist> heh, vax, if you like expensive power bills | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL I love that "fag hag" can be transalated into japanese. | |
| <adhoc> siccness: go have a look at freevms | |
| <siccness> VAX and Alpha | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <realist> siccness: you can get Alphas cheap enough from ebay these days | |
| <siccness> yeah | |
| <siccness> i know I can get an alpha relatively easily | |
| <adhoc> realist: yeah. my vax is furniture at the moment | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sitting on it? | |
| <adhoc> get youself something like a 600au alpha | |
| <adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: think table | |
| <siccness> they powerful? | |
| <adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: it has wheels under it | |
| <adhoc> siccness: 600MHz | |
| <siccness> WOWzers | |
| <siccness> Jawdropping gear. | |
| <adhoc> comparible to PIII 1GHz | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <siccness> That's not too bad. | |
| <adhoc> kicks arse in floating point | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> adhoc: LOL. Got a pic? | |
| <realist> adhoc: have you seen the Vax bar fridge? | |
| <adhoc> Davo_Dinkum: search google images for MicroVAX II | |
| <adhoc> realist: not in person, but yes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> But I wanna see your one on wheels | |
| <siccness> Hahahahaaha, adhoc | |
| <siccness> Those things are pimp | |
| <realist> I had/have an alpha quad cpu @533MHz | |
| <siccness> How much are those bad boys, adhoc? | |
| <realist> Pure workhorse | |
| <adhoc> it has heavy duty casters under it | |
| <realist> It's the size of a bar fridge | |
| <adhoc> mate of mine has a DS20, pulls 1200W | |
| <siccness> You need a bigger bar fridge mate :P | |
| <realist> siccness: this thing is maybe 20U, 19" wide | |
| <adhoc> realist: which one? | |
| <realist> adhoc: bugger that ;p | |
| <adhoc> the 11/780? | |
| <realist> was a 4000 or 4100 | |
| <adhoc> they rock =) | |
| <adhoc> CVAX are awesome =) | |
| <adhoc> some of those bad boys have instructions to do polynimial evaluation in a instruction | |
| <adhoc> and time series stuf | |
| <siccness> You know what I really want, a house with 20 computers in each room | |
| <siccness> all setup for different things | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> You would | |
| <siccness> and then a rich wife to pay for electricity | |
| <realist> Nah, I'd rather have a personal datacentre located in my basement | |
| <siccness> Nah, that sucks | |
| <realist> Tap straight into the power grid (unmetered) | |
| <siccness> basement is where you have the pooltable and bar | |
| <realist> I'm talking 40ft below ground level | |
| <siccness> Yeah, the pooltable and bar. | |
| <siccness> Gotta still the bourbon without people seeing it, :) | |
| <realist> bourbon, eww | |
| <siccness> well the brew kit will be down there too | |
| <siccness> Hey TigerWolf, cps, MatthewV. | |
| <MatthewV> hey siccness TigerWolf cps :) | |
| <cps> hi | |
| <TigerWolf> hey | |
| <MatthewV> how are we all this evening? | |
| <cps> pretty good | |
| <siccness> A little on the forward step, then the back step :) | |
| <siccness> You? | |
| <TigerWolf> chilled, sleepy and happy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> what's the max resolution gamecubes can output? | |
| <cef> anyone here done ACPI DSDT hacks on ubuntu? | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, i'm alright, except for boredom | |
| <siccness> Heheh | |
| <siccness> My eyes are a the point of burning :) | |
| <siccness> So tired :| | |
| <cps> go to bed then | |
| <siccness> It's not passed midnight mate. | |
| <cps> oh yes | |
| <cps> well it probably is somewhere in the world | |
| <siccness> New Zealand | |
| <siccness> by 1minute | |
| <cps> yeah it would be | |
| <cef> siccness: but it's NZ.. they don't count. :P | |
| <cps> fly to new nz and then go to bed then | |
| <siccness> OHHH big call :P | |
| * siccness waits for all the new-zealanders in here to have a go at cef :) | |
| <siccness> G'day MotherLUG | |
| <cps> it's too late for that, they've gone to bed already | |
| <siccness> Hahah | |
| <MotherLUG> Hay Ho siccness | |
| <cef> siccness: a number of good friends of mine are NZ'ers.. they give as good as they get | |
| <siccness> What you up to, MotherLUG? | |
| <siccness> Mate my flanalette yet? :P | |
| <siccness> (excuse the rhyme) | |
| <MotherLUG> West wing just finished | |
| <siccness> *made | |
| <siccness> Good show that | |
| <MotherLUG> nope been busy working on a pirate costume and a tutu | |
| <adhoc> night all | |
| <siccness> Night champ! | |
| <Phlosten_> *sigh* still compiling | |
| <MotherLUG> adhoc, NIght | |
| <adhoc> NI | |
| <adhoc> NI | |
| <Phlosten_> cya adhoc | |
| <siccness> Phlosten_: Still? :| | |
| <siccness> That's slow. | |
| <Phlosten_> yup | |
| <siccness> I'll tell you what mate, i'll challenge you. | |
| <Phlosten_> i have started compiling a new kernel for this machine :) | |
| <MatthewV> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03765.html | |
| <MatthewV> what do you think - message from sabdfl to openSUSE devs.. the responses are interesting | |
| <siccness> here's the deal, Phlosten_, i gotta do a --sync | |
| <siccness> and then ill compile | |
| <siccness> whoever wins | |
| <siccness> has to go to LCA wearing MotherLUG's tutu | |
| <Phlosten_> MatthewV, yeah, we had a big discussion about that the other day | |
| <siccness> and replace wins with loses ;) | |
| <MatthewV> Phlosten_, we did? | |
| <MatthewV> what did we say? | |
| <Phlosten_> well, a few of us | |
| <siccness> MatthewV: it's all in the logs :) | |
| <MatthewV> ;) | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, not now... | |
| <MatthewV> :P | |
| <Phlosten_> just general wondering about the reaction | |
| <Phlosten_> MatthewV, so far the reaction hasnt been that bad | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, you will need to wear your hair in a bun | |
| <MatthewV> Phlosten_, its interesting, so many of the responses seemed to ignore most of the email and look at small parts... | |
| <Phlosten_> MatthewV, nothing unusual about that | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lmao. How long is your hair siccness? | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: Haha :) | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: never you mind mate ;) | |
| <MatthewV> Phlosten_, no its typical :) | |
| <Phlosten_> siccness has pigtails | |
| <siccness> If only. | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| * adhoc whispers .o( so does Kamping_Kaiser ) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lmao pigtails probably | |
| <siccness> yeah but Kamping_Kaiser is sexy | |
| <siccness> I can't challenge him | |
| <adhoc> um | |
| <MotherLUG> Phlosten_, thats fine, we can give him 2 buns | |
| * adhoc goes to bed and doesn't about it.... | |
| <siccness> haha adhoc :) | |
| <MotherLUG> Kamping_Kaiser can wear the spare fairy costume. OK | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: princess leila (sp?) style ) | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, you got it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> MotherLUG, <3 | |
| <siccness> ahh you're a refreshment to this channel, MotherLUG | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> hmm, optus cable aint that bad. I can DL 2 torrents and listen to a radio stream without it lagging . whee! | |
| <purserj> I was thinking more along the lines of Leia in Jabbas pleasure barge | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, do I have a straw? | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: why of course :) | |
| <siccness> purserj: i think thats what i was thinkin of | |
| <siccness> the one in the gold bikini? | |
| <purserj> yeah, where she chokes the slug | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> senator amadalia is hotter | |
| <Phlosten_> Davo_Dinkum, a whole 2? wowsers | |
| <purserj> amadala was a cheap marketing tool | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> probably | |
| <purserj> just like every other part of the last three movies | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lol | |
| <Phlosten_> bwuhaha, my kernel compile on here has already overtaken the other machine | |
| <purserj> I mean the Gungins were ewoks but instead of teddy bears, they were frogs | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> someone likes the old school star wars | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, you need to tell me what size shirt you need | |
| <siccness> eek, ill have to get back to you on all that stuff | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> XXXXL? | |
| <siccness> you're a south aussie arent ya? | |
| <siccness> im headin over that way sometime within the near future :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> back in 30-60min ish | |
| <siccness> hoping to meet all you SA people | |
| <Phlosten_> siccness, nooo, dont do it | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: yup, before Lucas decided the 4 billion he earnt from the first three wasn't enough | |
| <siccness> and then he blew a couple of billion on the worlds dumbest house | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL well he did intend to finish the whole series | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> wat house? | |
| <purserj> He should have let someone else direct/write/envision it then | |
| <siccness> Skywalker Ranch | |
| <purserj> Spielberg would have been a good choice | |
| <siccness> or whatever the hell it is | |
| <Phlosten_> siccness, its got a nice sound studio in it | |
| <purserj> They've colabed before on the Indiana Jones series | |
| <merlin-linux> evening all | |
| <siccness> Phlosten_: yeah | |
| <siccness> It's still a waste of money | |
| <Phlosten_> who cares | |
| <Phlosten_> i sure dont think he did | |
| <siccness> No one actually cares | |
| <Phlosten_> :) | |
| <siccness> but I can still make fun of it. | |
| <siccness> Phlosten_: done compiling | |
| <Phlosten_> nope | |
| <siccness> no i mean i have | |
| <siccness> you're wearing the tutu :P | |
| <Phlosten_> heh, i never agreed to anything! | |
| <siccness> weak! | |
| <siccness> backin out of a deal | |
| <Phlosten_> doesnt matter, wont be attending lca, will still be waiting for this compile :) | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> she wanna build me up, just to tear me down! | |
| *** H3g3m0n is now known as H3g3m0n_sleeps | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser takes off socks and chocks+gags+faints | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *shoes | |
| * cafuego drags you in front of the war crimes tribunal | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser pleads insane | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser :S, one of my cd drives is 'missing' | |
| <siccness> Oh noez, you've been robbed by the opticalburgler | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> the drink holder comes out, but it wont play | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <merlin-linux> B00 | |
| <siccness> Calm down there big fella :) | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: hiya mate | |
| <siccness> How are ya? | |
| <merlin-linux> good thx mate, and you? | |
| <siccness> yeah not bad mate. | |
| <merlin-linux> kewl | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: what you up to mate? | |
| <siccness> Just doing a little bit of Linux Revision for Thursdays exam | |
| <siccness> but I've just about hit the spot of "i dont care anymore" | |
| <merlin-linux> oh | |
| <merlin-linux> how was the exam today? | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser debates flaming someone on the -devel list | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: 100% on practical, theoretical im not sure on | |
| * merlin-linux gives Kamping_Kaiser a flaming hug | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: :-) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night all | |
| <merlin-linux> g'night Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> catch you later mate | |
| <siccness> night all | |
| <cps> night | |
| <merlin-linux> g'night siccness | |
| <fildo> nite mate | |
| <fildo> supranos is on tho | |
| <merlin-linux> not here it not | |
| <siccness> fildo: yeah, watchin sopranos now :P | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <fildo> weeds premiers on channel 9 | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <fildo> ok a tad faggy | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> i hope i never see this episode ever again | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <MatthewV> oh.. i wish i could hang round for the ubuntu open week events later | |
| <siccness> fildo: did I miss something? or did the ending of that make no sense whatsoever? | |
| <fildo> narh just about his sister n her hubby i guess | |
| <fildo> n how u screwed that other pirck for the house | |
| <fildo> n gave it to his sister | |
| <siccness> i understood that | |
| <siccness> but why was she acting like she couldn't breathe | |
| *** H3g3m0n_sleeps is now known as H3g3m0n | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. 'tis true, yesterdays freenode crash cleared the banlist | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> so FYI all, if tor abuse starts again, its because i'm leaving the banlist open for a while | |
| <Changlinn> ahhh tor | |
| * Changlinn runs | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm still happy on banning *!*@gateway/tor/* | |
| <cafuego> yay! | |
| <cafuego> I'll quickly tor in and start abusing people | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> well put it off a few hours. i'm heading out | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> back tonight all :) | |
| <cafuego> have fun! | |
| <fildo> morning folks | |
| <bokey> fildo, morning. | |
| <fildo> how is ya bokey | |
| * bokey bokey pokey mokey =) | |
| <bokey> fildo, good. u ? | |
| <fildo> ah yeh could be better | |
| <fildo> just got a battery warning | |
| <fildo> brb getting pwr supply | |
| <bokey> not that bursting batteries. eh.. =) | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <adhoc> mornen all | |
| <adhoc> hey cafuego | |
| * bokey bokey pokey mokey =) | |
| <fildo> yay | |
| <bokey> adhoc, hello there. =) | |
| <fildo> im alive again | |
| <bokey> fildo, so your battery didn't burst. hehe.. good. =) | |
| <fildo> bokey: umm not to sure, wasnt that with dells' and sonys vio;s | |
| <cafuego> hiya adhoc, mad mailer of adelaide | |
| <bokey> fildo, yup. there were some specific model batteries within dell and viao's. | |
| <fildo> cool | |
| <fildo> my shitshba | |
| <bokey> cafuego, hii iii.. =) | |
| <fildo> should be cool then | |
| <bokey> fildo, =) | |
| <fildo> early ass model, but works fine with ubuntu | |
| <fildo> ;l | |
| <bokey> fildo, anything goes with Linux. =) | |
| <bokey> that's the beauty of it. | |
| <fildo> some .. | |
| <fildo> things ... | |
| <bokey> unlike some 1gig-3.2Ghz-requirement-OS | |
| <bokey> =) | |
| <fildo> vista | |
| <fildo> lol | |
| <bokey> =) | |
| <fildo> im on a 1.6m 1gig - | |
| <fildo> n its sweet | |
| <bokey> fildo, same here. =) | |
| <fildo> n my rack mount is a dual 600mhz ;p | |
| <fildo> huge processor speed | |
| <fildo> but n ebay special | |
| <bokey> =) | |
| <fildo> for 30 bucks | |
| <fildo> and it works! | |
| <fildo> http://boxhead.fildo.net/images/proliant_3000/DSC01551.JPG | |
| <fildo> http://boxhead.fildo.net:8000/images/proliant_3000/DSC01551.JPG | |
| <bokey> cool. =) | |
| <fildo> 45degrees today | |
| <fildo> in syd they recon. | |
| <pschulz01> Morning.. | |
| <fildo> morning pschulz01 | |
| <bokey> i wanted to get rid of all the unused modules but haven't been able to do so. i tried this script @ http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Script_To_Remove_Unused_Modules but that seems to unload other loaded modules too. | |
| <bokey> morning pschulz01 =) | |
| <bokey> maybe if i unload unused modules that could make my system run a bit faster :/ | |
| <fildo> modules for kernel | |
| <fildo> ? | |
| <fildo> ey purserj | |
| <bokey> fildo, yeah | |
| <pschulz01> Max 33 in Adelaide. | |
| <bokey> that seems a bit stupid but by meaning unloading *unused* modules, i mean those modules that are not useful for e.g., the wireless modules, usb net modules and etc. etc.. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: Remove from running kernel or delete from the disk? | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, kernel | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, the code @ http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Script_To_Remove_Unused_Modules works except it unloads my usb mouse and other stuffs too. :( | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, i need to rmmod all the modules that have zero's in the lsmod's output. that's the idea but I don't know how to approach it with shell scripting. :/ | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: What's the 'scratchpad' website? I keep forgetting.. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: Do you know? | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, ? nope. | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, don't worry about it.. i think unloading modules needs certain criteria first.. i think I won't worry about it for now. =) | |
| <bokey> because lsmod's output is only the formatted output, really it doesn't make sense to unload those modules. | |
| <bokey> formatted output from /proc/modules i.e. | |
| <bokey> =) | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: The script looks very 'brut-force' | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: It just tries to remove every module in turn.. | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, yeah indeed. it unloads everything that has "0" field in the lspci's output. it's not right. =) | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: It doesn't event test for that tough. | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, i ran that earlier and my mouse stopped working. hehe.. | |
| <pschulz01> though. | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, """" if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then """ <== what does this do ? | |
| <bokey> not very adept at shell scripting. =) | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: You could modify the script by replacing 'modlist' witht he module that you want to remove (space separated). | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, yeah i could do that but then it wouldn't be dynamic. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: test for 'success' or 'failure' | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: of the rrmod | |
| <pschulz01> rmmod | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, sometimes I use usb and sometimes ethernet so I want to be able to unload the *unused* ones out of them. | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <cafuego> bokey: $? is the return value of a program/script. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: The exit status.. yes. | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: 0 - success, other - failure (usunally an error code) | |
| <cafuego> usually 0 if there was no error. Not 0 if there was an error. | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <purserj> thank god for email | |
| <cafuego> purserj: ugh | |
| <purserj> I should say, thank god for email rescheduling | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, if I am correct to assume, ethernet is a module right ? and I could load/unload it. right ? | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, sorry.. rephrase ethernet *driver* is a module. right ? | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: Yes.. (if it is compiled as such).. | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: I'm yet to compile the serial driver as a module for my embedded systems. | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, so I want to load/unload ethernet/rndis_host module based on what connection medium I m using. | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: What is rndis_host? | |
| <bokey> pschulz01, that would be my ultimate goal. I want to load/unload modules based on whether it's being used/unused. | |
| <cafuego> bokey: Aren't you better off checking for link status using mii-tool then? | |
| <bokey> filename: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/usb/net/rndis_host.ko | |
| <bokey> author: David Brownell | |
| <bokey> description: USB Host side RNDIS driver | |
| <bokey> license: GPL | |
| <bokey> vermagic: 2.6.15-27-386 preempt 486 gcc-4.0 | |
| <bokey> depends: usbcore,usbnet,cdc_ether | |
| <bokey> alias: usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic02isc02ipFF* | |
| <bokey> srcversion: FE2E8A828E9823094A06A78 | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: Ahhh.. coool! | |
| <cafuego> or do usb network interfaces not support mii? | |
| <bokey> cafuego, mii-tool ? let me see what that is. | |
| <cafuego> sudo mii-tool -> eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok | |
| <fildo> y whats up purserj | |
| <bokey> cafuego, never really used mii-tool. have got it sitting here though. | |
| <cafuego> bokey: it'll tell you if an interface has link... so you could check if a nic is being sued that way, eh? :-) | |
| <cafuego> the nic needs to support it, though | |
| <bokey> cafuego, for usb's i used usbnet,rndis_host | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <bokey> cafuego, k. I run a mii-tool --verbose. if it returns SIOCGMIIPHY then the interface is down. :{/ | |
| <cafuego> well | |
| <cafuego> bokey: Not quite. it could mean 1 of 4 thinks. | |
| <cafuego> bokey: Check the bottom part of 'man mii-tool'. | |
| <bokey> cafuego, =) | |
| <bokey> cafuego, don't think usb interfaces support mii | |
| <cafuego> if it returns SIOCGMIIPHY when run as root, it likely doesn't support mii. | |
| <bokey> cafuego, so it fails in anycase. no point on running it. :( | |
| <bokey> right. | |
| <bokey> thanks anywayz guys.. cafuego and pschulz01 =) | |
| <bokey> apreciate it. | |
| * bokey hunts down towards making his machine meaner. =) | |
| <pschulz01> bokey: NP :-) | |
| <adhoc> cafuego: i had a whole mail bag to off load | |
| <cafuego> adhoc: my dad was pretty surprised to find a stack of boxes :-) | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: Do you know anyone with servers in the UK? | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: yes | |
| <adhoc> in redbus | |
| <adhoc> cafuego: your dad? | |
| <cafuego> yeah | |
| <adhoc> he be visiting? | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: Al our server at poundhost.co.uk have gone MIA. | |
| <pschulz01> servers | |
| <cafuego> parentals are here, have been all month (leaving again this arvo) | |
| <adhoc> cafuego: =) | |
| <adhoc> where are they hosted? | |
| <pschulz01> What is the hight in RU of a standard rack? | |
| <pschulz01> height | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: no dns resolution =/ | |
| <adhoc> 1U | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: Top to bottom | |
| <pschulz01> 22? | |
| <purserj> in RU or real | |
| <pschulz01> RU | |
| <purserj> 22 is a half rack | |
| <adhoc> Height | |
| <adhoc> | |
| <adhoc> * 1.7" (43mm) | |
| <pschulz01> Ta.. that sounds better.. | |
| <adhoc> 1u == 1.7" (43mm) | |
| <cafuego> So a rack is the same height as I am, is what you're saying? | |
| <cafuego> 44RU = 1892mm | |
| <adhoc> cafuego: thats about right | |
| * pschulz01 find that he can stuff cafuego quite neetly into a rack. | |
| <adhoc> racks vary tho | |
| <adhoc> pschulz01: he would have to duck tho | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: I have 3, and thay are all differend depths, | |
| <siccness> Anyone here know of a good project management software? | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: .. and you were wondering what the chainsaw wasfor. | |
| <cafuego> siccness: yes | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Planner? Use to be called Mr.Project | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: .. I would recomment using a spreadsheet though. | |
| <siccness> It's not so much what I or you would do, we're being told to use MS Project - but I'm hoping Planner can save to these files :P | |
| <dsas> siccness: unlucky. | |
| <cafuego> siccness: taskjuggler | |
| <dsas> siccness: I don't think it can. | |
| <dsas> I just use a spreadsheet too | |
| <siccness> can gnumeric produces gant/pert charts? | |
| <siccness> no ;( | |
| <cafuego> siccness: taskjuggler | |
| <siccness> yah, emerging taskjuggler now |
