<masterninja> by
* sheepeatingtaz returns!
<sheepeatingtaz> alas, all others are in bed :)
<masterninja> im not dead im just in ubuntu-xgl
<chaddy> glad you popped in, masterninja, you inspired me to get beryl/xgl running on my lappy
<chaddy> tis teh prittie
<masterninja> its not easy
<chaddy> what sort of gfx card you got?
<masterninja> i got the beryl-settings up and running but when i click stuff nothing changes
<masterninja> geforce 440 mx
<chaddy> nvidia is easier
<masterninja> its on a crappier laptop
<chaddy> at the login screen have you pressed f10 to select the right session?
<masterninja> what it wont work if im logged in as masterninja?
<chaddy> you need to log out and back in again in either an xgl or beryl session as opposed to gnome/kde/xfce
<masterninja> oooh
<masterninja> lol im turning everything to max just for a laugh
<masterninja> it will be okay its not like im running a game or something
<chaddy> you got it working, masterninja?
<masterninja> wait i wanna turn everything to max then log into a beryl session i want to be massivly impressed on my first use of it
<masterninja> at least before it crashes
<masterninja> every box is being ticked wether i know what it does or not
<chaddy> some of them might crash it...
<masterninja> well i think i turned on enough lets see
<masterninja> live or die im logging out 3 2 1.... GO
<masterninja> looks ecactly the bloody same
<masterninja> what a anti climax
<binary2k2> masterninja: did you turn beryl on?
<chaddy> can you spin the cube?
<masterninja> how do you turn it on?
<binary2k2> masterninja: run beryl-manager
<masterninja> mabey i should cntrl+shift+backspace
<masterninja> oi
<masterninja> how do i make a beryl session
<masterninja> somboday!!!
<binary2k2> you using XGL?
<masterninja> yes
<binary2k2> did you follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl ?
<masterninja> it says on the console: beryl: No composite extension
<masterninja> when i make beryl my window manager
<binary2k2> I think that means that you don't have XGL running, just normal X
<masterninja> oh
<masterninja> how do i run xgl then?
<binary2k2> i think you need to edit kderc , it on the help site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl#head-11f417f3b6961f34f8e875eae29baa58da15d0a2
<masterninja> i use gnome
<binary2k2> ah, sorry, i'm on #kubuntu too, getting messed up :P
<masterninja> i wanna scream im so close to getting it to work
<masterninja> i installed everything i just dont know how to turn on xgl
<masterninja> i got the beryl menu
<binary2k2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl#head-4ad54c8799ed5fa6843db565fe7e6020daaee145 try method A or B
<masterninja> k
<binary2k2> I setup XGL on a friends laptop a few months ago so I can't remember exactly how :P but I have an intel card so I use AIGLX
<masterninja> i gonna go to bed but ill try it tomorrow
<masterninja> thx anyways
<masterninja> cya
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* dsas kicks autogen.sh
<dsas> time taken to create patch: 8 minutes, time taken to configure and run application: 1 hour to date
* dsas bangs head against the desk
<binary2k2> dsas: go play frozen-bullbe to calm down :p
<dsas> hmm, the ubuntu package is much different from upsread
<dsas> s/upstread/upstream
<binary2k2> yeah, they work on them alot
<dsas> binary2k2: Upstreams should have worked, however I kept getting errors about not being able to find m4 files, despite the fact they were there.
<dsas> so I just got that to lie and always return true. the config script also had a bashim and pointed to /bin/sh.
<dsas> and then it errored out on another syntax error which looked completley valid to me, but I may have been running it wrong.
<dsas> the ubuntu one has a ./configure file already there \o/
<binary2k2> configure scripts are a god send :p
<dsas> wohoo, my admittadly trivial patch worked
* chaddy is stunned to read that PS3's are 40× more powerful than the PS2 which still delights and amazes me (when I stick GT4 on the Nürburgring, at any rate)
<chaddy> wonder if we'll get Ubuntu on them any time soon
<binary2k2> probably debian before ubuntu
<chaddy> hmm, I've yet to have a leet enough evening to get Debian to work satisfactorily
<chaddy> s/evening/month
<binary2k2> no one gets debian to work well in one evening :p
<chaddy> ;-)
<binary2k2> takes months to work out all those kinks
<dsas> I've got a linkstation NAS box I intend to put debian on. maybe over xmas
<chaddy> I've found since I settled on Ubuntu (did my fair share of distro whoring, but always leaned toward Debian philosophically) I've learnt an awful lot more about *nix
<chaddy> I wonder if I'm ready for another bash with the real deal...
<dsas> chaddy: Why bother?
<binary2k2> I have planed one day to do a LFS install, but I don't have a free year to do it :p
<chaddy> indeed, there's still a world of Ubuntu to get to grips with
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<chaddy> are there any groups in the free culture movement that could use a BOINC project? having a notion about getting locoteams together in leagues...
<binary2k2> none that i can think of right now
<chaddy> competitive, community supercomputing sort of thing
<chaddy> I can't think of any off-hand, either
<chaddy> perhaps we need more mathematics majors
<binary2k2> :p yeah
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<GazzaK> great chanserv message
<tsmithe> ?
<tsmithe> I didn't get a chanserv message
<GazzaK> [#ubuntu-uk] Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! If you're new to IRC, have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat For a list of commonly asked questions, check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
<tsmithe> i didnt get that
<GazzaK> it might have popped up on another auto joined channel tsmithe
<tsmithe> ? i says ubuntu-uk
<GazzaK> /cycle
<tsmithe> ahah
<GazzaK> did you get it?
<tsmithe> yes
<tsmithe> but not the first time
<tsmithe> ...
<tsmithe> wierd
<GazzaK> mine was actually displayed on the #ubuntuforums channel window, since it takes a tiny while to get the message, and it gets sent to whatever is the "live" channel
<tsmithe> ah - i got it in #ubuntu-trivia
<GazzaK> well done on that quiz last night, you geek :-)
<GazzaK> you were like a robot
<tsmithe> lol
* tsmithe is quiz king
* tsmithe is also too competitive
<GazzaK> yeah
<GazzaK> it showed
<GazzaK> :p
<tsmithe> if it had had any programming questions, i would've failed, tho
<GazzaK> i dont do programming either
<tsmithe> i just dont get it
<tsmithe> too adbstract
* tsmithe is going to go learn python
<tsmithe> what does a logo team actually do??
<tsmithe> *loco
<GazzaK> goes chooo choooo
<tsmithe> that's not funny
<GazzaK> tis
<tsmithe> tisnt
<GazzaK> it's really funny
* tsmithe was being serious
* GazzaK wasn't
<tsmithe> very, very, very serious
* tsmithe thought GazzaK was
<tsmithe> obviously
<tsmithe> very obviously
<GazzaK> seriously, I dunno apokryphos whats a loco team do?
<tsmithe> cos i noticed there was a meeting for "approval" some fourteen days ago, and why does it need approving, and then what can it do?
<GazzaK> I think that was the approval for the logo
<tsmithe> logo?
<GazzaK> since it needs canonical to approve it, since the Ubuntu logo is a trademark
<apokryphos> Loco teams become a distribution's quasi-representatives in the respective area
<apokryphos> they might organise events, deal with talks in the area, promote Ubuntu in the area, and other such things
<tsmithe> and write press releases
<tsmithe> according to the marketing team's new loco-press-release spec ;)
<sheepeatingtaz> good morning ubunteros!
<GazzaK> morning sheepeatingtaz
<sheepeatingtaz> how are we all today?
* GazzaK is watching top gear on telly
<GazzaK> i'm okay, got a headache
<sheepeatingtaz> hangover?
<GazzaK> might be
<GazzaK> damn alcofroll
* GazzaK is never gonna drink again (lol)
<GazzaK> my knee hurts too ???
* sheepeatingtaz finsihes his anti-hangover sausage, egg & barbeque sauce sandwiches
<GazzaK> :'( food...
<masterninja> oi
<tsmithe> io
<masterninja> ah a life form
<tsmithe> not just a life forn
<tsmithe> *the* life form
<masterninja> do i need beryl composite manger?
<tsmithe> you don't need it
<tsmithe> but if you want it
<masterninja> well its not working
<tsmithe> which instructions did you follow?
<masterninja> the super offical ones
<tsmithe> bery-project wiki?
<masterninja> i got it installed and i got the manager and emerald working
<masterninja> but the bling wont show
<tsmithe> so it works?
<masterninja> nope
<GazzaK> if those are working, then it should be fine?
<tsmithe> what bling?
<masterninja> the facny effects
<tsmithe> masterninja, can you see window borders?
<masterninja> what you mean windows borders?
<GazzaK> if you shake a window about, does it bounce?
<masterninja> nope
<tsmithe> masterninja, the stuff around the window with the title and buttons for close and stuffs
<masterninja> oh wait
<masterninja> im not in a breyl session
<masterninja> how do you add beryl?
<tsmithe> you don't need different sessions
<masterninja> k
<tsmithe> run beryl-manager
<masterninja> it spat this at me:
<masterninja> Nvidia Present
<masterninja> Relaunching beryl with __GL_YIELD="NOTHING"
<masterninja> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
<masterninja> Nvidia Present
<masterninja> beryl: No composite extension
<tsmithe> did you follow the instructions completely?
<masterninja> um yes
<tsmithe> and go to System->Preferences->Sessions
<tsmithe> oops
<tsmithe> wrong thing
<masterninja> baring in mind the instructions are badly written
<tsmithe> grep -i composite /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<tsmithe> run that
<masterninja> ah i see its not enabled
<masterninja> masterninja@masterninja-laptop:~$ grep -i composite /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<masterninja> (**) Extension "Composite" is disabled
<masterninja> (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
<masterninja> masterninja@masterninja-laptop:~$
<masterninja> i need teh composite thingy
<tsmithe> ok. you'll need to add this to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<tsmithe> Section "Extensions"
<tsmithe> Option "Composite" "true"
<tsmithe> EndSection
<tsmithe> then restart X, and try again
<masterninja> oh right
<tsmithe> we will wait
<apokryphos> ubotu: beryl
<ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
<tsmithe> i will go to #ubuntu-xgl
<tsmithe> and wait there as well
<masterninja> k
<sheepeatingtaz> Does anyone know of any open source proxy/internet access control software?
<apokryphos> woot
<apokryphos> @chuck
<apokryphos> @bauer
<apokryphos> hm
<apokryphos> @bauer
<Ubugtu> Jack Bauer doesn't ask, he commands.
<apokryphos> woo
<apokryphos> @lart sheepeatingtaz
* Ubugtu slaps sheepeatingtaz with a soggy sock
<GazzaK> @pity 10 apokryphos
* Ubugtu holds apokryphos to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
<apokryphos> ouch
<GazzaK> @rainbow I know how to annoy you, I know how to annoy you!
<Ubugtu> I know how to annoy you, I know how to annoy you!
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o apokryphos
*** apokryphos sets mode: -c
*** apokryphos sets mode: -o apokryphos
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o apokryphos
*** apokryphos sets mode: +c
*** apokryphos sets mode: -o apokryphos
<apokryphos> how?
<apokryphos> :P
<GazzaK> lol
<GazzaK> @rainbow I know how to annoy you, I know how to annoy you!
<Ubugtu> I know how to annoy you, I know how to annoy you!
<GazzaK> boooo
* apokryphos chuckles
<GazzaK> @futurama
<Ubugtu> Leela: "My old life wasn't as glamorous as my webpage made it look."
<GazzaK> @futurama
<GazzaK> can be amused for minutes with this bot
<GazzaK> @futurama
<Ubugtu> Bender: "Senseless death! The folk singer's best friend!"
<tsmithe> @lart GazzaK
* Ubugtu steals GazzaK's mojo
<GazzaK> @pity 10 tsmithe
* Ubugtu holds tsmithe to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
<GazzaK> this might not be a good idea
<tsmithe> damn you!
<GazzaK> @pity 10 tsmithe
* Ubugtu holds tsmithe to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
<GazzaK> @futurama
<Ubugtu> Bender: "Bender's a genius!"
<littletank> hello
<littletank> I am testing a new setup
<littletank> never mind I'll try later
<apokryphos> impatient :)
* binary2k2 has wobbly windows
<chrismyers> Hi Guys :-)
<binary2k2> hey chrismyers
<chrismyers> I hope someone can help me. Anyone know how I go about running individual user logon scripts? I want to mount separate shares depending on who logs on.
<binary2k2> ~/.bashrc or ~/.profille will let you do that
<tsmithe> or the gnome session manager
<binary2k2> yep, also you'd have to do a but of jiggery pokery in bashrc, to make sure not to try to mount twice if someone opens a term, but it's not hard
<chrismyers> Cool... Just taking a look. Cheers
<chrismyers> Did you mean .bash_profile?
<binary2k2> afik both are used, but yeah, .bash_profile
<binary2k2> take a day off work and read man bash :p
<chrismyers> Cheers.... Taking a peek.
<sheepeatingtaz> apokryphos: why did you lart me first? :(
<apokryphos> sheepeatingtaz: last person to speak :P
<apokryphos> a completely unforgiving action
* sheepeatingtaz sulks
<apokryphos> =)
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<sheepeatingtaz> Nice, I've just installed kickoff and it looks sweet :)
<anti-net_> Afternoon all
<sheepeatingtaz> hi anti-net_
<darich> hey all
<anti-net_> tryed to help my mum to learn how to use a computer.........oh im not doing that again
<sheepeatingtaz> My mm used the internet for the first time last week :)
<sheepeatingtaz> *mum
<binary2k2> I remember teaching my dad how to cut and paste
<apokryphos> woot
<binary2k2> because it was yesterday :p
<apokryphos> I remember teaching my dad where the 'p' key was
<sheepeatingtaz> apokryphos: you win :P
<binary2k2> my dad syill don't know that
<GazzaK> sheepeatingtaz, now you just need to wait to see nekid pic of your mum on some website - that'll scare you
<apokryphos> hehe
<sheepeatingtaz> GazzaK: That would scare everyone :)
<GazzaK> yep, I dread they day that happens to me, I really do
<anti-net_> GazzaK, thats just a sick sick sick sick thing to say
<GazzaK> anti-net_, but just imagine if it happened
<anti-net_> I don't want to
<GazzaK> neither do I
<GazzaK> sorry for the nightmares
<anti-net_> Bah you will be!!
<apokryphos> @lart GazzaK
* Ubugtu holds GazzaK to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
<GazzaK> woooo
<sheepeatingtaz> I don't think larting GazzaK will have the desired effect
<GazzaK> it might have an effect though
* anti-net_ shotguns GazzaK
* sheepeatingtaz hudders
<sheepeatingtaz> *shudders
<anti-net_> That has the right affect!
<GazzaK> talking about that, I joined a shooting club last week
<anti-net_> http://img.hetemeel.com/hahashow.php?headline=I%20shot&text=GazzaK
<anti-net_> :D
<GazzaK> lol
<sheepeatingtaz> GazzaK: Have you seen Team America (the film, that is)?
<GazzaK> nope
<anti-net_> Best sex scene ever in that film
<GazzaK> is it good?
<anti-net_> yes
<sheepeatingtaz> Hilarious, and seeing as anti-net_ has seen it, I will continue...
<anti-net_> veeeery funny
<sheepeatingtaz> My mum is the spitting image of Kim Jong Il in that film :)
<anti-net_> lol....thats awesome!
<sheepeatingtaz> especially when she is angry
<anti-net_> for the people who haven't seen it, This is sheepeatingtaz/Kim Jong Il: http://anonymousopinion.com/media/KimJongIl_teamamerica_01.jpg
<anti-net_> sheepeatingtaz's mum*
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<GazzaK> sheepeatingtaz, http://reserbicycle.com/images/ldkim.jpg eeeek
<anti-net_> is your mother a bit of a commuist sheepeatingtaz?
<GazzaK> can you not trade her in for a newer model?
<anti-net_> you can trade in mothers?
<GazzaK> maybe somewhere
<sheepeatingtaz> anti-net_: no, she only looks like him :)
<anti-net_> ah shame
<anti-net_> oooo
<anti-net_> google have put up pretty much most of cornwall and devon in high-resishg
<sheepeatingtaz> anti-net_: Earth or maps?
<anti-net_> I think they do both at the same time
<anti-net_> but im looking at it in Earth
<anti-net_> damn, my town looks shit from space
<GazzaK> chavton is still in low res :-(
<sheepeatingtaz> anti-net_: mine looks like that from the ground :P
<anti-net_> chavton?
<anti-net_> lol same sheepeatingtaz
<GazzaK> clacton I mean
<GazzaK> but that looks realllly crap from the ground
<GazzaK> it needs bombing
<anti-net_> can be arragned
<GazzaK> do it
<GazzaK> but tell me first so I can go away, or do it after next month, as I'll have escaped this hell hole by then
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<anti-net_> anyone here able to give me some help with WINE?
<chaddy> ask away
<chaddy> which app are youtrying to run?
<anti-net_> So I use an application for college called SMZ which is a simulator for running assembler programs, the program runs fine in WINE but does't show up in the task tray nor does it have any miniize maxize buttons etc
<anti-net_> is there a way to add thos? to give it windows like functionality
<chaddy> is it missing the whole title bar?
<anti-net_> no its only got the close button, rest is there
<chaddy> have you tried clicking where the min/max buttons should be?
<anti-net_> no nothing there
<anti-net_> plus it does't show up on the gnome panels
<anti-net_> but does if you alt-tab
<chaddy> does this continue to happen if you log out and back in again?
<anti-net_> yup
<chaddy> hmm
<chaddy> looks like I might have to find SMZ and give it a go...
<anti-net_> there no need to go to that much trouble :)
<chaddy> can't find it anyway ;-)
<chaddy> are you running beryl or compiz, anti-net_?
<anti-net_> nope
<chaddy> I'd submit a couple of bugs, one to wine, one to smz
<anti-net_> i'll submit one to wine, but last time I submitted one for this smz app, I just got an e-mail back claiming its perfect etc etc
<anti-net_> damn closed source people!
<chaddy> ahh, closed source, I only have google-fu for FLOSS apps, no wonder I couldn't find it
<anti-net_> yeah :(
<anti-net_> its quite a nice app, cuz it means we can write ASM programs without killing the OS
<anti-net_> oh well, will have to only do it under windows
<anti-net_> cheers for the help chaddy
<chaddy> not sure I was that much help, but yw ;-)
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<anti-net_> having a look on the wine site atm
<masterninja> wine wont run a .exe
<chaddy> hmm? more wine questions
<chaddy> are you in beryl/compiz, is the .exe going to want to use GL gfx?
<masterninja> um
<masterninja> its photoshop
<masterninja> im in beryl
<chaddy> come out of beryl
<chaddy> it'll work
<masterninja> oh no it doesnt
<chaddy> try logging out and back into gnome
<masterninja> k
<chaddy> gimp ftw
<masterninja> it wont run the .exe
<chaddy> hmm
<chaddy> are you running it from teh command line?
<chaddy> (have you considered GIMP?)
<masterninja> nope
<tsmithe> chaddy, there's no point in persuading him bout gimp
<masterninja> i go to art collage for me to pass my units all my work must be on photoshop
<masterninja> otherwise my work doesnt count
<chaddy> hmm
<chaddy> so, running from the CLI - what errors do you get?
<masterninja> cli?
<tsmithe> terminal
<tsmithe> wine <path-to-file>
<chaddy> command line interface
<masterninja> k
<masterninja> its doing something
<masterninja> AHA!
<masterninja> oh
<masterninja> says it wouldnt extract
<chaddy> is it a setup file?
<masterninja> oh it is now
<masterninja> yep
<chaddy> which version of PhotoShop is it?
<masterninja> latest
<masterninja> why wont it run through the command?
<masterninja> i mean gui
<masterninja> its not fair
<masterninja> i hate the terminal i want the gui :(
<chaddy> http://pinoygeek.wordpress.com/2006/11/01/howto-install-photoshop-in-ubuntu/
<X3N> what do people here use to play thier music with ?
<chaddy> music123, mainly
<sheepeatingtaz> X3N: Amarok
<masterninja> mplayer and the mp3 plugins via add remove programs
<tsmithe> X3N: Listen (listengnome.free.fr)
<chaddy> masterninja: you might need to look into VMWare or crossoveroffice for the latest version
<X3N> i just tried bmpx
<X3N> it looks nice and feels nice to use until it crashes horribly
<chaddy> music123 -z /home/chaddy/Music/Dinosaur\ Jr./*/*
<chaddy> if you don't mind a bit of typing it's rather good
<X3N> i could use mpg321 for that
<chaddy> music123 is just a front end, handles oggs too
<X3N> also i don't know how i would get it to play through alsa
<masterninja> its says there is no program to atomatically install this file
<masterninja> wait i just tell ubuntu to open .exe files with wine :P
<chaddy> I suppose, in the main, I use my Rio Karma piped through the stereo...
<masterninja> uh oh
<masterninja> wine isnt on my programs list when i choose what program to open .exe's
<X3N> I'm a wannabe audiophile so i like to have my music out through digital optical out
<masterninja> how do i add wine to my programs list?
<chaddy> masterninja: did you have a read at that howto, yet?
<masterninja> nope
<masterninja> doesnt matter i figured it out
<chaddy> system>preferences>menu>layout
<masterninja> oh right
<chaddy> I think so long as it's on your apps menu you can choose open with
<masterninja> k
* chaddy finds reading howto's handy for little tips you might not pick up otherwise
<chaddy> X3N: do you use .ogg's or .mp3's?
<tsmithe> extension doesnt matter: content does
<X3N> ogg/flac/mp3/wav
<chaddy> tsmithe: .ogg is Free
<tsmithe> indeed
<masterninja> brb
<chaddy> I've got a mix of .mp3's and .ogg's, never seem to quite get around to konverting all the .mp3's
<tsmithe> but ogg is just the container. and when i mean "extension", i mean purely that. i still care about the content of a file. however,you should be able to call it anything and it should still be recognised as what it is.
<tsmithe> vorbis is the codec
<chaddy> on the whole, though, people will give vorbis files a .ogg extension as a mnemonic and for interoperability, so to some extent the extension does matter
<tsmithe> indeed
<chaddy> ;-)
<tsmithe> but applications should not look at the extension to determine the file type
<tsmithe> this is something i hate about windows
<chaddy> it is easier to just type "file" and be told than having to remember hundreds of different extensions
<tsmithe> exactle
<tsmithe> *y
<masterninja> anyone know of a linux winrar clone?
<tsmithe> nope
<tsmithe> why?
<masterninja> i need one
<tsmithe> >
<tsmithe> ?
<masterninja> what?
<tsmithe> why do you need a rar clone?
<masterninja> i need a linux program that will open .rar files
<tsmithe> oh... well you can install the non free cli program from multiverse: rar
<masterninja> no i want free
<tsmithe> no free alternative methinks
<masterninja> .
<masterninja> BUT I WANT IT THEREFORE I MUST HAVE
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<masterninja> ha i found a free rar linux program
<masterninja> i laugh at your face
<apokryphos> ubotu: find rar
<ubotu> Found: guile-library, koverartist, libdata-hierarchy-perl, lush-library, musiclibrarian (and 7 others)
<apokryphos> ubotu: find rar-free
<ubotu> Found: unrar-free
<apokryphos> ubotu: info unrar-free
<ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
<masterninja> oh
<masterninja> well im getting xarchiver
<masterninja> help
<masterninja> oh wait never mind i fixed it
<popey> moo
<sheepeatingtaz> 'lo popey
<tsmithe> hi popey
<dsas> evening all
<apokryphos> hey
<tsmithe> hiho
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<X3N> tell you what would be useful.. a open source software howto
<X3N> for example i'm learning C++ at the moment for my degree and i'd like to make a open source program as i had an idea for one but i've got no idea how to get started with libaries/bindings and how to make them all work together to make a program that is compatible and compileable on other peoples systems
<tsmithe> err... gcc file.cpp -o file ? so long as the libs/headers are installed and in the right places, that should work fine
<X3N> not quite what i meant
<tsmithe> ok...
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<popey> X3N: automake ?
<popey> X3N: some of the IDEs will create all the necessary stuff for you when you make a new project
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<GazzaK> mmmmm, dinner at my parents rocks \o/
<X3N> i don't like IDEs
<X3N> and i don't understand automake yet
<dsas> does anyone?
<X3N> as far as i know now it's used to make rules for include locations
<dsas> Yes, with Deep Magic.
* dsas is still bitter at it
<edwardsNdallasTX> has anyone set up RAID5 on a LAMP installation?
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<littletank> Good evening folks
<littletank> I am setting up a new machine and hope the message is getting through
<littletank> could some kind person please let me know
<sheepeatingtaz> littletank: reading you load & clear :)
<sheepeatingtaz> *loud
<littletank> thank you very much
<sheepeatingtaz> no problem ;) I can help when it's that easy!
<littletank> then tell me why is it that when I start xchat I do not get ubuntu and have to start with freenode?
<littletank> I use dapper
<sheepeatingtaz> littletank: the various #ubuntu channels reside on the freenode network
<sheepeatingtaz> if you want to set it to auto-join certain channels, I believe you can right-click on the channel and select auto-join?
<littletank> I will look at that thanks
<littletank> Now, how do I split my mail in evolution into different mailboxes
<sheepeatingtaz> littletank: I'm afraid I can't help you there as I don't use evolution.
<littletank> I'll keep trying, someone somewhere must
<sheepeatingtaz> littletank: it's very likely someone here will, but It's Sunday night, so they may well be away from their machine atm
<littletank> I'll try during the week thaks
<sheepeatingtaz> no problem
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* darich prepares to install Zenwalk on no. 2 machine...
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<X3N> what's the user name and password for the ubuntu live cd
<dsas> ubuntu ubuntu I think
<dsas> not sure on that though.
<dsas> X3N: ^^
<X3N> it's acutally a blank password, which is a bit annoying
<dsas> why so?
<X3N> well when a program prompts for a password and you leave it blank it automatically rejects it
<dsas> ah, that would be annoying indeed.
<dsas> is there a bug?
<X3N> you can do passwd though
<dsas> not very useful to newbies though.
<popey> what rejects a blank password?
<popey> in fact, what asks for one?
<popey> other than sudo / gksudo ?
<dsas> apps started with gksudo?
<popey> :D
<dsas> bah,
<popey> beat ya :)
<popey> (again)
<popey> :)
<dsas> pfft. I won the quiz the other day :p
<popey> I'm catching youuuuuuuu
<popey> \o/ you won the quiz
* popey notes that after knocking his spamassassing scoring threshold down from 6 to 3.5 he gets much less spam
<JonRob> good eve'
* dsas campaigns for the support tracker karma awarder to give out less points.
<dsas> good evenin JonRob
<JonRob> can i ask, what happens at the meeting? or should i wait and find out - have it as a surprise!
<dsas> uhm, I don't know what there is to be discussed this fortnight tbh. Or that it's been publicised properly.
<JonRob> lol - perhaps a surprise for everyone this time then!?
<dsas> probably.
<dsas> what time is it supposed to start?
<JonRob> um 9.30 is it?
<JonRob> yeah, says in the irc blurb
<dsas> oh yeah
<popey> what, here?
<dsas> we should really set up an agenda before hand that everyone can add too
<dsas> popey: Yeah, tomorrow.
<popey> oh, cool
<JonRob> on the wiki perhaps?
<popey> that is the best place
<dsas> yeah, already on it
<JonRob> i edited a wiki for the first time earlier...changed "a" to "an", possibly one of the lowest points of my life
* dsas welcomes another word fascist
<JonRob> dsas: good to see i'm not alone
<JonRob> where's the agenda on the wiki?
<dsas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20061127Meeting
<JonRob> ah, you're making it?
<X3N> what module should i be looking at in apache to get my server to connect to another server for requests to a certain vhost ?
<X3N> proxy for reverse proxying ?
<dsas> huge stab in the dark, but mod_passthrough ?
<dsas> hmm, ok that doesn't appear to exist.
<anto9us> X3N, I'm no expert on Apache but a redirection/rewrite module would probably be worth investigation
<popey> that would cause the client to do the request
<popey> he wants proxying
<X3N> i think proxypass is my man
<anto9us> well, proxying, to my mind, doesn't redirect
<X3N> redirects traffic
<popey> exactly anto9us
<anto9us> proxying will always add overhead
<popey> which is why a redirect/rewrite isn't appropriate
<anto9us> like I say, I'm no expert on Apache :)
<popey> proxypass_reverse
<popey> is probably what X3N needs
<popey> mod_proxy
<anto9us> lighttpd is a great bit of kit
<anto9us> I found it easier to configure than Apache before now, though, I'm a bear of little brain
<popey> Hunny!
<anto9us> this really made me chuckle... http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2235
<X3N> Good evening jono
<jono> hey
<popey> http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/147048,CST-FIN-Andy23.article meow :)
<X3N> awsome you can embed proxy pass though into a vhost
<dsas> popey: heh, quite unusual to see the media take the pro-customer anti-media stance.
<X3N> as i currently only have one ip address and two http servers that's very useful
<anto9us> I did that with lighttpd and even with just one server, domain redirect to port
<anto9us> was running turbogears on one domain and zope on another
<X3N> mm, i'm using lighthttpd as by backend machine
<anto9us> lighttpd I think carries a lot less overhead for caching a lot of content, it's a smaller bit of kit designed for less tasks is how I think is how though
<Seeker`> lo
<anto9us> Hi Seeker`
<JonRob> bye all
<popey> of course, when they hack the zune to run rockbox and use the built-in wifi with no drm crud it will probably be a nice player :)
<popey> "they"
<Seeker`> did everyone have a good weekend?
<anto9us> Seeker` yes, I went on a drug induced burglary and raping pillage. Had a great time, how about you?
<Seeker`> was at a wedding on saturday, aunts birthday party today
<anto9us> oh, if I know weddings, not much different
<Seeker`> at the wedding, i discovered that it is very difficult to work out just how much you have had to drink when people keep on refilling your glass after you have only had a couple of sips
<anto9us> Seeker`, they tend to hit you less when you've not had as much, that's what I've learned in life anyway
<Seeker`> i reckon i had at least 3 glasses of champagne and 3-4 glasses of wine in about 3 hours
<anto9us> well just remember, time flies like an arrow and fruit flies like a banana
<Seeker`> exactly
<Seeker`> hmm
<Seeker`> i wonder what a time fly would look like
<anto9us> hey, now that's clever, I mean, you should be like on IRC chatting to drunken idiots or something!
<anto9us> <--- drunken idiot
<dsas> <-- idiot
<Seeker`> i dont like talking to myself
<Seeker`> damnit, i keep on losing the ring my gf gave me
<Seeker`> i need to find some sort of tracking device
<anto9us> Seeker`, 3+ ASBO's and the Court will give you one for free, or something like that
<Seeker`> for the ring, not for me :P
<dsas> put it on some string and dangle it around your neck.
<dsas> or ductape it in
<dsas> s/in/on
<Seeker`> hmm #
<Seeker`> the neck thing may work
<Seeker`> i probably waste about 15 mins each day looking for it
<anto9us> Seeker`, I think you can easily steal some tracking tags in tescos, they put them alcohol, music cd's and nicorette gum, just steal one of those and you're set
<Seeker`> heh
<Seeker`> or, i could just steal one of the low paid workers and get them to keep track of it for me
<anto9us> no, they really don't give a shit at £5.25 per hour
* darich installs Zenwalk with some trepidation

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