<DarkMageZ> anyone got ideas on stuff for me to download? i've got 10GB to use in 2 days
<hantu> download ubuntu for a couple of times.
<DarkMageZ> useful wasting :P
<hantu> ;)
<hantu> anyway im off. have a good day mates ;)
<Phlosten> DarkMageZ, work your way through the distrowatch top 20?
<Phlosten> or download the complete debian cd set
<DarkMageZ> 20 different copies of similar code compiled slightly differently
<DarkMageZ> hmmm
<Phlosten> DarkMageZ, yes
<Phlosten> a good learning experience
<DarkMageZ> na, i think that's wastage
<siccness> Download some documentation, DarkMageZ
<siccness> That can, and probably will be useful for later in life.
<siccness> If not now.
<DarkMageZ> ok, so no-one has downloaded anything interesting lately...
<siccness> Other than the good stuff? Nope.
<Phlosten> the only thing I have been downloading is ebooks and heap of images from stockexchange
<Phlosten> and the odd linux iso
<siccness> Declared 1/202 :D
<siccness> England need 647 or so runs to win
<DarkMageZ> i can't wait for kde4. it looks like there's alot of work being put in to redesign the whole thing
<DarkMageZ> even tho i'm a gnome user. i will be giving kde4 a look
<cafuego_> Well, theyc an hardly make it uglier eh?
<DarkMageZ> kde3 is fairly pritty... but it's just a mess of features allover the place
<DarkMageZ> i'd like a guide to making gnome pritty. without beryl...
<Phlosten> DarkMageZ, the murrine engine makes things pritty
<DarkMageZ> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755 ?
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, ping
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: ark
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, do you happen to have a copy of whatever installs that murrine configuration tool?
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<Phlosten> merlin-linux, the cimi.netsons.org domain has been broken for me for days :(
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: i have just tried cimi.netsons.org and it working for me
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: i don't use the configuration tool
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, ok, how do we get it working? does it just work?
<merlin-linux> i can show what you need to add to the gtkrc file
<Phlosten> cool
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: install the murrine engine and then install a murrine theme you like
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, ok, just finding a nice them
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: this what you have to look for in the gtkrc file >>> http://pastebin.ca/258039
<merlin-linux> and add it needed
<Tate> fella's
<merlin-linux> Tate: hiya
<Tate> what is happening?
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: all you have to do is put the theme in ~/.themes
<merlin-linux> and the select as you would normally in System --> Preferences --> Themes
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, just extra the tar.gz to .themes?
<Phlosten> extract
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: if you are using the latest murrine engine you will have to make sure the theme gtkrc file has that sort of info in it that i have put up pastebin for you
<merlin-linux> yep
<Tate> Phlosten: still using Arch?
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: yep just extract it in the ~/.themes dir
<Tate> there's a PKGBUILD I semi-wrote that will install the Murine GTK Engine and several themes from the Murrina site
<Phlosten> Tate, not in Arch atm
<merlin-linux> i still compile murrine myself
<Phlosten> where is the gtkrc file?
<merlin-linux> i dont trust the ubuntu repo that has been created for murrine
<siccness> Good afternoon all/
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: ~/.themes/MurrinaLoveGray/gtk-2.0
<merlin-linux> siccness: whatup dog
<siccness> what up my homie g dawg word
<merlin-linux> hehe
<cafuego_> muahaha!
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, what theme do you use?
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: MurrinaLoveGray
<Phlosten> got evince is major suckage in the printing department
<Phlosten> got=god
<siccness> Hey, in Windows, if you wanted to network a printer without having a printer-server, you could just setup File and Printer Sharing and use the share name, correct?
<Phlosten> pretty much
<siccness> pretty much, have I missed a step? :)
<Phlosten> can be a bit fiddly to get the whole thing going
<Phlosten> but mainly from the linux side
<siccness> nah, sorry, this is just windows --> windows
<Phlosten> oh right
<siccness> I know it's not the right channel, but this is the only channel I know of :)
<Phlosten> easy as then
<siccness> Thanks champ.
<purserj> siccness: try #windows
<siccness> ahh, you're a gun mate!
* merlin-linux has a nerves break down from the windows talk
<Tate> Wii4Mii
<siccness> Heh
* merlin-linux thinks it is time for a beer
<siccness> merlin-linux: See if you can make sense of this question..
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, is there somewhere that describes these gtkrc options?
<siccness> "Users are not allowed to logon locally on the server what can be done if you want a user to logon the server?" (No need to the actual question, but if anyone knows what the hell it's actually asking, please tell) :)
<Phlosten> the answer is 2
<siccness> lol
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: try here >>> http://pastebin.ca/258062
<Phlosten> ta
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: it not much of an explanation but it might help
<merlin-linux> siccness: huh?
<siccness> Yeah, nevermind merlin-linux. I'm confused.
<merlin-linux> siccness: sounds like the server is only setup for remote logon
<merlin-linux> siccness: locally i think they are getting at is the physical server itself
<siccness> shit now im confused on what "local" is.
<merlin-linux> siccness: so eg user can't log on locally cause the server is locked in a room
<merlin-linux> siccness: but locally could be the local lan network it attached to too
<siccness> yeah exactly
<merlin-linux> siccness: it bit of confusing question
<merlin-linux> my answer to the question would be to define locally
<siccness> Yeah
<merlin-linux> and then add two example answers, one for the physical server and the other for the local lan
<siccness> I'm gonna stab in the dark and say it's a simple matter of changing the Group Policy
<merlin-linux> yep
<siccness> unless it's talking about setting a User Profile to local?
<siccness> nah that doesnt make sense
<siccness> Found the answer :)
<merlin-linux> siccness: the other question is how is the user trying to log on to the server
<siccness> "Local users including domain users by default cannot logon on the server, because of the default policy".
<siccness> So you make it a roaming profile
<siccness> or edit the policy
<merlin-linux> siccness: is this a MS thing
<purserj> http://youtube.com/watch?v=i__0yskJX_M <-- Denmark Speed Control NSFW
<siccness> Yeah
<siccness> merlin-linux: i asked in #windows
<siccness> they didnt really know
<merlin-linux> siccness: no wonder
<merlin-linux> hehe
<siccness> heh
<merlin-linux> purserj: i have seen it already
<merlin-linux> friends sent me the link in another channel
<purserj> right
<merlin-linux> purserj: http://ln-s.net/Fzr
<merlin-linux> SYN Stealth Scan Timing: About 0.30% done; ETC: 03:45 (15:43:17 remaining)
* merlin-linux hates scanning his own pc's as they all take so long to do
<purserj> what are you using to scan?
<merlin-linux> but i have made mods to my wifi side of my firewall and have to make sure it all safe
<cafuego_> merlin-linux: Why not use netstat first and only scan ports that are actually open? ;-)
<merlin-linux> purserj: nmap cli
<merlin-linux> cafuego_: i am scan all ports
<merlin-linux> scanning
<cafuego_> yes, I understand that. But scanning closed ones is a tad pointless.
<merlin-linux> cafuego_: i just making there is no other open beside what i have set
<merlin-linux> the is method to my madness
<cafuego_> merlin-linux: Using stateful firewalling?
<merlin-linux> my firewall linux based
<onefang> Using stealth scanning on your own ports is kinda pointless, it will be quicker if you turn of stealth.
<cafuego_> Yes, but are you using state matching?
<merlin-linux> cafuego_: think so, why
<cafuego_> merlin-linux: What I normally do is set the policy to DROP, then allow all related and established, and make rules to allow all traffic on 'lo' and create rules for NEW packets on a specific ports only.
<onefang> Part of the stealth scanning algo is to scan really slowly and randomly, so as not to trigger IDS. You know you are scanning yourself, so you might as well scan at full speed.
<cafuego_> merlin-linux: That way you know that anything not expressly listed is closed.
<cafuego_> merlin-linux: (Except stuff that is matched via the ipt_nat_SOEMTHING modules)
<cafuego_> But I'm sure Rusty keeps those safe ;-)
<merlin-linux> yep
<merlin-linux> onefang: ok i have turned the -v off in the nmap string i was using
<merlin-linux> i running "sudo nmap -sS -O -p 1-65535 -P0 <IP>"
<cafuego_> You need to change -sS to -sT
<cafuego_> the -v is fine
<merlin-linux> ah ok thx
<merlin-linux> -sS/sT/sA/sW/sM: TCP SYN/Connect()/ACK/Window/Maimon scans
<merlin-linux> so the sT is just connect
<cafuego_> yup
<merlin-linux> well i not sure how long the scan going to take now
<merlin-linux> but it doing it
<merlin-linux> this does not look to bad >>> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/P4-2-0a-Ghz-1Gb-Ram-64Mb-Video-Vista-Capable-Computer_W0QQitemZ250052397673QQihZ015QQcategoryZ111448QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<siccness> That's a bucket of crap, merlin-linux
<siccness> and more than likely, an unstable bucket of crap.
<merlin-linux> lol
* merlin-linux looking for cooling pads again
<merlin-linux> i still looking at getting one of theses >>> http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Cooler/NBcooling/CL-O0004/cl-o0004.asp
* merlin-linux is finding it hard to find a local dealer
<merlin-linux> siccness: i was looking at a gaming pc, but i not going to pay the price it going for tho
<siccness> That's not a gaming PC
<siccness> A gaming PC with 64MB video-card? You'll be playing Solitaire ;P
<merlin-linux> but there is a 1.6GHz mobo here with a cpu and ram etc, but i not sure if te owner want to part with it to me
<merlin-linux> siccness: i only looking at it to play sacred
<siccness> You can pick up a basic video card like an ATI x1300 Pro for around $80
<merlin-linux> and i would buy another agp card for it
<siccness> (PCI-Express that is)
<merlin-linux> siccness: i will never go with ati
<merlin-linux> intel is bad enough
<merlin-linux> if i had the money i would buy matrox
<onefang> Go with whatever card the game you want to play is optimised for.
<merlin-linux> most games are optimized for nvidia
<onefang> I have a spare matrox G550 I'm not using anymore.
<merlin-linux> and sacred is optermized for nvidia
<onefang> Guess you need an nvidia then. B-)
<merlin-linux> my desktop got a matrox card in it
<quail> Computer: kayak | Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" | Processor: 2x @ 549.16Mhz | Model: Pentium III (Katmai) | Memory: 756MB Free: 391MB [▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀] | Diskspace: 57.90GB Free: 24.40GB | Video: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G100 [Productiva] @ 1280x1024 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 3.29GB Up: 3.79GB
<siccness> Windows irritates the hell outta me
<merlin-linux> siccness: i only want to build a gaming pc
<merlin-linux> and i only going to run win98se on it
<siccness> lol
<merlin-linux> anything more that win98se is waste of cpu cycles
<merlin-linux> and ram
<DarkMageZ> merlin-linux, you haven't used windows 98 se recently have you? it was unstable to the core
<merlin-linux> i have not used windows for long time now
<Phlosten> hello all
<merlin-linux> hiya Phlosten
<Phlosten> DarkMageZ, win98se, unstable? as if :D
* Phlosten runs away
<DarkMageZ> :P
<Phlosten> I ran 98se up until Jan this year
<siccness> ive always found the most stable windows release was 2000
<siccness> most unstable was ME
* DarkMageZ agrees with siccness
<Phlosten> siccness, yeah, a common understanding
<Phlosten> hence why my single Windows machine is 2000
<merlin-linux> DarkMageZ: the only reason i need windows 98 as gaming pc is cause sacred will not run under wine and cedega
<Phlosten> dang, outside temp just hit 40
<siccness> merlin-linux: so why not 2000?
<merlin-linux> win98se sorry
<merlin-linux> siccness: sacred with run on win98se upwards
<siccness> Does Sacred not work on Win2k onwards?
<merlin-linux> and siccness i prefer to do a bare install of win98se
<merlin-linux> keep the system as lite as poss
<merlin-linux> more power for the gaming
<Phlosten> there are heaps of people in our club still using 98se
<merlin-linux> win98se is very hackable to
<siccness> I have Windows 98 running on two box's here.
<Phlosten> although they are now looking to upgrade now
<merlin-linux> as much as windows stuff can be
<siccness> but thats just because I haven't had time to crack the box's open, do a bit of "sicc tweakin'" and throw on an OS that doesn't blow.
<merlin-linux> still the most secure OS that MS ever came out with is win3.11
<siccness> probably because no one bothered to exploit something with nothing on it :P
<merlin-linux> siccness: also the internet was not a big thing then too
* merlin-linux should dig out his old 386 mobo and copy of win 3.11 and put it on the net for the shits and giggles
<merlin-linux> and see how long it takes to be cracked
<dsas> I wouldn't imagine there's many windows 3.11 worms flying around the net
<merlin-linux> if any
<DarkMageZ> no but i'm sure that if enough tards put win 3.11 machines on the net, someone will bother
<Phlosten> win3.11 rocked
<Phlosten> i could reboot my computer without dropping my net connection
<merlin-linux> MMM are playing daddy cool
<merlin-linux> eagle rock
<DarkMageZ> the power can go out @ my place without dropping the net connection
<merlin-linux> DarkMageZ: join the club
<DarkMageZ> omg, daddy cool...
* merlin-linux runs 2 UPS's at home
* merlin-linux got a 850W and 1KW UPS's
<Phlosten> i have a UPS, Unimpressive Power Socket
<merlin-linux> my 1KW just uses normal power sockets
<merlin-linux> and my 850W UPS uses male to female computer plugs
<merlin-linux> eg the lead that you would use from a monitor to pc
<Phlosten> i should get a UPS
<merlin-linux> i was given both my UPS's
<Phlosten> one that mouse in that wheel is gonna cark it
<Phlosten> one day
<merlin-linux> feel that bass
<Phlosten> nope, sorry
<Phlosten> :)
<Phlosten> anyway, back later. learning to do
<merlin-linux> damn MMM
<merlin-linux> they play a couple good songs and they throw in a crap one
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<cafuego_> aha!
<siccness> what a crap irc network this is
<hysterio> siccness: im sure yours is far superior :P
<siccness> :)
<siccness> Sure is.
* hysterio admires your superior irc network
<siccness> Mines rock-solid stable to the point that no one users it.
<siccness> *uses
<hysterio> i hope to have one of those myself some day :)
<siccness> Heheh
<siccness> I actually got some productive work done while the network was down
<siccness> Written 1500 words :D
<hysterio> :)
<siccness> minus about 300, not so good at guessing.
<merlin-linux> nautilus is named after a famous sub from 1931
<hysterio> ok
<merlin-linux> well anyway there was a sub called nautilus in 1931
<siccness> I'm assuming it was named after the sub because it was excessively slow?
* ajmitch would have thought the sub from 1931 was named from jules verne's novel
<merlin-linux> i watching a doco about the nautilus sub on abc atm
<hysterio> nautilus is also the name of a type of shell
<hysterio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus
<merlin-linux> Voyage of the Nautilus | Genre: Documentary | The greatest adventure story never told. In 1931, Australian born adventurer Sir Hubert Wilkins attempted to take an old WWI submarine to the North Pole. The true story of a unique man and his incredible voyage.
<siccness> Nautilus' are predators!
<siccness> ARGH
<Tatey> I eat nautilus' for breakfast
<siccness> Hahaha
<purserj> hmmm tiny
<purserj> tinny even
<merlin-linux> hehe
<hysterio> if they bleed, we can kill them
<hysterio> Tatey: does that mean that you're some form of monsterous squid?
<Tatey> yes, it does
* Tatey eats hysterio
* hysterio welcomes his new monsterous squid devourer
<Tatey> more!
<Phlosten> as long as the squid is a Linux user, its all good!
<Tatey> BRB, going for a swim ^_^
<siccness> I seem to have learnt way too much today
<Phlosten> siccness, you too?
<siccness> Yup, it's actually quite sad that I've spent 18hrs looking at a book.
<hysterio> i meant to study today, but i couldnt tear myself away from my robotech box set
<purserj> as seen on drupal forums "Moving from apache to IIS what will I lose?"
<siccness> purserj: intelligence
<hysterio> purserj: your soul
<siccness> and most of all, restekpa.
<Phlosten> can't lose your mind, you've already lost it if you are contemplating that
<siccness> Ahh, true words.
<Phlosten> siccness, what book are you reading?
<siccness> "Network Installation and Management - Windows 2003 Notes"
<Phlosten> hmm
<siccness> I've never wanted to pull out my eyes so much.
* Phlosten gets a fork
<cafuego> Linux version 2.4.30 (mbm@reboot) (gcc version 3.4.4 (OpenWrt-1.0)) #1 Mon Nov 6 17:35:21 PST 2006
<cafuego> yaaaay!
* Phlosten is reading a php book
* cafuego is a php book
* Phlosten reads cafuego
* hysterio cleanses siccness's book with flame
<cafuego> oi! my entrails!
* Phlosten wedges cafuego under the table leg
<cafuego> unset($hysterio);
<hysterio> cafuego: umm.. thanks?
<siccness> I hope I don't get this crap "Practical Exam", #7 "Remove AD, Install AD, Join workstation with Domain, Setup Local Policy, Create local user under local policy"
<siccness> It'll take 4 weeks to do so when you're running 2 Operating Systems through VMWare on 512mb ram :|
<cafuego> siccness: ram is cheap
<cafuego> REALLY cheap
<siccness> So tell my TAFE that/
<cafuego> siccness: Just whine at a parent
<cafuego> or do you need to do it on THEIR machines?
<siccness> their machines
<cafuego> eww
<hysterio> so you sit microsoft exams on tafe machines?
<cafuego> I draw the line at W2k Server on vmware
<cafuego> NT4 is snappy, though :-)
<siccness> I'll either end up with a Windows 2003 Server activity, or a Novell NetWare activity
<siccness> If it's a Novell NetWare activity, ill be fine considering they're all done.
<merlin-linux> w0w, if my eyes saw correct, the nautilus had a WS101 wireless radio set on it
<purserj> siccness: take in a live cd with a copy of samba beta and do it that way
<DarkMageZ> Fujitsu! =D
<Fujitsu> Yay.
<DarkMageZ> funny, the aussie freenode server hasn't clicked back with everyone else
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<Kamping_Kaiser> whoa. people!
<DarkMageZ> yeah, the au server restarted :)
<DarkMageZ> and your irc client reconnected you to a working server
<DarkMageZ> welcome back
<Kamping_Kaiser> yep. computers are amazing :)
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<Davo_Dinkum> Who's this again": http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6434/untitledpj1.png
<merlin-linux> ah crap iam busted
<merlin-linux> lol j/k
<merlin-linux> i don't know who that is
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<Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, bruce perens
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: ping
<Davo_Dinkum> Thanks.
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, pong
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: <---
<siccness> Bah, installing windwos 2000 is so slow.
<elkbuntu> s/2000//
* merlin-linux burps
* siccness gulps down a damn nice bourbon
* merlin-linux got a bottle beer
<Tatey> you are
<hysterio> s/slow/painful/
<merlin-linux> it theory i am on my 8th stubby
<hysterio> in practice?
<merlin-linux> but i have been drinking since lunch time today
<onefang> Explains a lot. B-)
<merlin-linux> now that not very nice
<merlin-linux> hehe
<onefang> I added a smiley.
<merlin-linux> i was j/k
<merlin-linux> :-P
<merlin-linux> who going to see "happy feet" on boxing day
<siccness> in theory you're on your 8th stubby and you started at lunch time. I don't mean to be rude, but why do you like warm beer? :P
<merlin-linux> it an animated penguin movie that was made here in AU
<siccness> Not I, i'll be seeing 007 in December.
<merlin-linux> siccness: warm beer does not bother me
<siccness> I shall send you a plane ticket to England.
<siccness> :P
<merlin-linux> siccness: i am a pom
<merlin-linux> siccness: i have been eating too
<onefang> Explains a lot. B-)
* merlin-linux gets a big cork for onefang
<merlin-linux> hehe
<merlin-linux> evening Phlosten
<Phlosten> merlin-linux, evening
<Phlosten> how goes it all?
<merlin-linux> Phlosten: good and you?
<Phlosten> good
<cafuego> yay
* cafuego has WPA Enterprise/Radius working :-)
<hysterio> cafuego: well done :)
<hysterio> I always wanted to try that
<Davo_Dinkum> Bye!
<Phlosten> cafuego, neato
<purserj> cafuego: going to start charging others in the building for access?
<Phlosten> cafuegonet
<Kamping_Kaiser> would be illigal wouldnt it?
<Phlosten> sssh
<Phlosten> :)
<merlin-linux> sharing your internet connection outside of your property/home is illegal
<Phlosten> goodnight all
<cafuego> hysterio: A $105 WRT54GL is all you need :-)
<cafuego> purserj: No, not charging.
<cafuego> purserj: 'NodeGSG' has been free/open for ages.
<merlin-linux> cafuego: i paid 59.90$ for my AP that is OpenWRT compatable
<cafuego> mitsubishi r500?
<merlin-linux> R100 yeah
<merlin-linux> damn dealsdirect.com.au are out of stock of them atm as i want to buy another one
<merlin-linux> cause i want to set the other one up down the other end the house to connect to my AP
<hysterio> cafuego: i got one of the original wrt54g's ;)
* cafuego had a nice senao, but had to give that back
<pschulz01_> merlin-linux: Is there a list of devices that are available in Australia? or does this change to often to be useful.
<merlin-linux> cafuego: the Mitsubitshi (Diamond Data) R100 is a Rebadged Asus WL-500g
<merlin-linux> pschulz01: huh?
<cafuego> aahyes
<cafuego> damn clones ;-)
* cafuego sleep
<lucychili> night
<lucychili> paul ive gotto get the text of kim tomorrow am
<lucychili> from
<lucychili> gnight
* siccness is tired ;|
<Kamping_Kaiser> gnight lucychili
* lucychili sleeps with her fingers crossed
* Kamping_Kaiser too. i'll let you know when i know
<lucychili> ty
<lucychili> =)
<Kamping_Kaiser> np :D
<siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: I think i wasted a lot of time doing that revision sheet :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, heh
* Kamping_Kaiser plays with Upstream
<siccness> then again, it all made sense while I was writing it up
<siccness> http://www.woostercollective.com/2006/10/computer_turns_photos_into_3d.html
<siccness> ^^ now thats just cool
<Kamping_Kaiser> not bad
<siccness> not bad?
<Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
<siccness> :)
<siccness> I think it's amazing :)
<siccness> Imagine if the technology developed, game developers could just convert a movie into a game
<cps> what is produces is more like a popup book though
<DarkMageZ> graphics artists would still have to redo alot of textures
<DarkMageZ> level designers would still have to fix up all the loose ends
<cps> and you wouldn't be able to walk very far in the game before you would reach the end of what the program could generate from the picture
<siccness> cps, "imagine if the technology developed"
<merlin-linux> damn windows networking
<merlin-linux> i hate it
<siccness> Yup.
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<merlin-linux> but windows saw my samba network machine b4 anything else
<siccness> Then again, if you said "damn networking" i woulda agreed :)
<siccness> Doing a Networking Course, and I can't stand networking, haha.
<Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
<merlin-linux> i had to do a arse about face thing to get one windows machine to see the other
<merlin-linux> which was force the connection
<siccness> I've actually lost all knowledge on Windows, really.
<merlin-linux> siccness: ditto
<merlin-linux> it just sucks
<siccness> Took me atleast 2 minutes to work out how to install a video-driver before
<merlin-linux> give me a linux network it hell of alot easier
<siccness> that's because it makes sense, merlin-linux
<merlin-linux> true siccness
* merlin-linux wonders how much booze MS programmers drink
<siccness> not enough
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, they dont, thats why it sucks ;)
<siccness> that's why everything is illogical
<merlin-linux> lmao Kamping_Kaiser
<Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
<merlin-linux> hell mac os x is easier to network than MS
<siccness> I wouldn't know.
<merlin-linux> siccness: i know
<Kamping_Kaiser> i dont entirely agree
<merlin-linux> i have a imac
<Kamping_Kaiser> so do i (only macos 9)
* Kamping_Kaiser has a sparcstation 5, you try netbooting the bastards :|
<siccness> In all seriousness, I'd enjoy Windows a lot more if everything was a command-line.
<Kamping_Kaiser> they arp boot - wtf?????
<merlin-linux> i going to sell my imac
<siccness> I know it's not "user-friendly"
<siccness> but, i can't stand GUI really.
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, if windows was like that, it wouldnt be windows
<siccness> few exceptions of course.
<siccness> True
* merlin-linux enjoys his beer more now after playing with windows
<siccness> linux is just perfect for me, i get the best of both
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders what sorta shell vista will ship with
<siccness> heh, a nautilus shell :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> aparently its usefull, but we will see
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: a ship shell
<merlin-linux> meaning it will sink
<siccness> ^talk about logic there merlin-linux :P
<merlin-linux> hehe
<Kamping_Kaiser> well, all MS stuff comes preholed ;)
<merlin-linux> well it does
<siccness> do you think linux will ever become popular where there are more users of it than windows?
<Kamping_Kaiser> sadly it will have a market share, of zombies like (todays) windows users
* Kamping_Kaiser will have to write an os
<siccness> write an accounting application for me
<merlin-linux> siccness: yes linux will come popular
<siccness> it is popular as it is
<siccness> but not to an extent where it's popularity is greater than windows.
<merlin-linux> siccness: linux popular atm cause of nerds that want more
<Kamping_Kaiser> tehre are more (as many?) linux desktops as macos desktops
<siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah?
<merlin-linux> siccness: but people that use linux full time are geeks
<Kamping_Kaiser> brb
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, afaik yeh
<siccness> I'm not sure on that merlin-linux. Ubuntu have many users that aren't what I'd consider full time "geeks".
<siccness> Sure, Linux has the image of 'geekyness'.
<merlin-linux> siccness: hence the full time
<Kamping_Kaiser> image is deciving
<siccness> Oh, I see. Misread, my bad - merlin-linux.
<merlin-linux> part time linux users are still just nerds
<siccness> Oh, we have a heirachy of users, nerds and geeks do we, merlin-linux? :D
<siccness> Hello 'ello elkbuntu
<Kamping_Kaiser> wb elkbuntu
<elkbuntu> yay! cables unknotted, monitor at better height, machine not under my face anymore... this is much better :D
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, woot :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, btw, thansk for changing #technest topic
<Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
<elkbuntu> hehe
<siccness> Heh, I should do something about my machine being under my beed.
<siccness> *bed
<siccness> Makes it hard to put a CD in :)
<elkbuntu> siccness, well.. the initial reasoning for rearranging here, was so i could better access the machine with the monitor on it... since i was trying to plug some headphones into it so i could utilise the concept of noise. i cant find the jack for the headphones :|
<merlin-linux> hiya elkbuntu
* purserj is about throw his damn modem out the damn window!
<elkbuntu> im starting to wonder if there is even a soundcard in said machine ;)
<siccness> Heh
<Kamping_Kaiser> purserj, throw it ou tthe well window ;)
<merlin-linux> purserj: buy a billion 7300
<purserj> something that stays up would be nice
* merlin-linux loves his annex m
<merlin-linux> purserj: i have my billion 7300 pure bridged
<siccness> Damn it, it's nearly midnight
<Kamping_Kaiser> pansy
<siccness> exam in 8hrs or so :|
<Kamping_Kaiser> :S
<merlin-linux> siccness: you loosing you geekieness
<siccness> I didn't say I was going to go anywhere :P
<siccness> As if big sicc would leave before midnight.
* merlin-linux wishes siccness the best for exam tomorrow
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<siccness> Thanks mate.
<merlin-linux> :-D
<siccness> I'm a little worried tho :|
<siccness> It seems as if everything I study for is never on the exam, and everything I skip is on the exam.
<merlin-linux> oh :-(
<merlin-linux> read everything
<merlin-linux> or do what i did, never did homework, only studied in class. but i still passed
<siccness> I'll pass, but I need a 86.865 or higher
<Kamping_Kaiser> who
<Kamping_Kaiser> *whao
<siccness> Just so I can get an average of 85 or higher, so I can get a HD for this course.
<Kamping_Kaiser> GL!
<Kamping_Kaiser> is your tafe special about marking?
<siccness> Thanks, but it's not so important really.
<siccness> How do you define 'special'?
<Kamping_Kaiser> a bunch of questions, and then the 'extra' questions for merit?
<siccness> Nah
<Kamping_Kaiser> mount barker do. fking stupid
<siccness> but my teachers kind of like me so they usually just mark me well
<siccness> i handed in work with about 3 questions not answered once and i got 100%
* Kamping_Kaiser snorts
<siccness> I kept my jaw-tight.
* merlin-linux if i can get to lca07 i want to do the basic LPI test
<siccness> LPI?
<siccness> ahh Linux Prof. Institute
<merlin-linux> siccness: it a linux test
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, whens svlug on?
<siccness> I wouldn't pass LPIC-1
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: the next svlug meet is december and it just going to xmas dinner
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, then i should be able to make it
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: but i have to arrange a table
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, yeh, understood :)
<merlin-linux> and i need to find out numbers that going to be there first too
* Kamping_Kaiser hopefully
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: and i want to get GP there too
<Kamping_Kaiser> GP?
<merlin-linux> gorilla
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<merlin-linux> got to have the geks there
<merlin-linux> geeks
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, hawtins are out end of dec, so if you can get in early dec, they can come
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: kewl i will try
<merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: i might even try and have a quiet one at my place
<Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, would you fit us all?
<fildo> can anyone help me wif apache2
<merlin-linux> eg meaning just us geeks and bbq and beers etc
<Kamping_Kaiser> gnight all!
* Kamping_Kaiser hugs Hobbsee and elkbuntu gnight
* Hobbsee hugs Kamping_Kaiser
* Kamping_Kaiser hugs siccness , so he doesnt feel left out
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<elkbuntu> night Kamping_Kaiser
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<Phlosten> morning all
<dsas> morning Phlosten
<Phlosten> how are ya dsas?
<dsas> Hmm, I am ok. Just about to start work
<Phlosten> night shift?
<dsas> Nah, I'm a Brit.
<dsas> uhm, wait. :)
<dsas> nah, I'm a student.
<Phlosten> oh right
<Phlosten> you are in UK though?
<dsas> yeah.
<Phlosten> ok thats what I thought :)
<Phlosten> what are you studying?
<dsas> Yeah, I realised that you must've already known after I'd typed it...
<dsas> CS
<Phlosten> nice
<Phlosten> yeah, i knew from previous conversation
<Phlosten> which reminds me, need to ring uni today, *makes a post it note and sticks on monitor*
<dsas> bah, network :(
<Phlosten> wb
<dsas> hmm, *must get on with work*
<Phlosten> just thinking the same thing
<Phlosten> breakfast eaten, first coffee consumed. time to work
<adhoc> mornen greebo
<adhoc> mornen onefang
<onefang> G'morning.
<greebo> adhoc, heya
<adhoc> Phlosten: don't tell me its work time already!?!
<Phlosten> adhoc, it is for today :)
<Phlosten> once i get this other system working. stupid keypress repeat problem
<adhoc> hi dsas
<adhoc> carp, its forecast to be 32° today
<adhoc> and 33° on the morrow
<Phlosten> Mon 36 Tue 38 Wed 41 Thu 41
<adhoc> carp, 35° on wednesday =/
<Phlosten> *sigh*
<adhoc> and 33Âon thursday =(
<adhoc> whole week
<adhoc> Phlosten: um wheresat?
<Phlosten> Dubbo
<adhoc> thats pretty toasty
<Phlosten> yup
* adhoc should eat up and scarper!
* adhoc cycle in no and aviod the heat
<Phlosten> good move
<dsas> pfft, I'm sat here with a blanket around my legs.
<purserj> heat? Its a bloody cold 18 here
<Phlosten> brrr, too hot
<Phlosten> too cold
<Phlosten> rather
<Phlosten> tis 19 here atm, just nice
<adhoc> hjot!
<cafuego> Bah
<cafuego> 12
* siccness dances
* onefang sleeps.
* purserj works
<siccness> 23mins till exam starts
<purserj> good luck
<siccness> danke
*** cafuego is now known as roodmerk

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