| <Kamping_Kaiser> "Trust us, EFM may or may not be so unstable that it might crash, delete your files, annoy your cat, kill your dog, give your significant other a lot of STDs, or burn your house down. We warned you, if you still insist on using it, and it breaks your hard drive, you get to keep the magic rust." | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh | |
| <Phlosten> rofl | |
| <Brayn> ZOMG!! The ashes has started!!! c'mon aussie c'mon!! :P | |
| <Brayn> wide!! | |
| <Brayn> :P | |
| * Phlosten hides | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Brayn, really? | |
| <Brayn> any one watching> | |
| <Brayn> ya | |
| <Brayn> 2 wides!! lol | |
| <Phlosten> not a cricket person, sorry | |
| <DarkMageZ> not a sports person, sorry | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dont have a radio :( and i cant stream rm or wma | |
| <Brayn> im not one really either, but its Australia v England, we must beat thoughs damn poms | |
| <DarkMageZ> go England ^-^ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :o | |
| <Brayn> Kamping_Kaiser, u dont have a tv? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Brayn, no, i dont do tv | |
| <Brayn> well thats just odd | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i alwaysed used to stream audio off the net. suppose its time for a radio :\ | |
| <Phlosten> Kamping_Kaiser traded with tv for an Ubuntu CD | |
| <Phlosten> with=his | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hehehee | |
| *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <Phlosten> good deal I reckon! | |
| <Brayn> i think their goning to stream it ova the net | |
| <Brayn> cricket.com.au/tv | |
| <Phlosten> i generally don't like to watch tv these days | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Brayn, yes, but probably soem crap unfree format | |
| <Tate> yea, I find TV rather bland. But with MythTV I can just record stuff I'm interested in | |
| <Phlosten> especially not that summer crappy crap of all crap tv season is starting | |
| <Phlosten> now | |
| * Tate downloads latest Beryl | |
| <siccness> 0/9 | |
| <Phlosten> bah, feral beryl | |
| <Tate> hah. Why, it's so easy? It's in the unstable repo, all you do is # pacman -S beryl-svn :P | |
| * Phlosten does pacman -S blender | |
| <Tate> Phlosten: you should probably know about aur.archlinux.org too | |
| <Phlosten> ah, excellent | |
| <Phlosten> Tate, what is the quality like? | |
| <Tate> generally pretty good. Packages are suppose to adhere to "standards" and usually if someone makes a dirty package there'll be a comment "Fix up your package" or it's suppose to be removed. You can build the packages in a chroot, if you want to be cautious | |
| <Tate> I'm too lazy | |
| <Phlosten> that wiki needs some serious work | |
| <Tate> yea, there is a whole movement atm to fixing it. They're sorting it out. Right now it's even worse than it originally was because the articles are being moved everywhere | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, i saw the forum post about it | |
| <Tate> ahh Nintendo Wii, how I want thee | |
| <siccness> 0/17, c'mon aussies :D | |
| <Tate> Ashes on eh? | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| <siccness> 4 more runs! | |
| <Tate> I suppose I could turn the TV on | |
| <Tate> it's right next to me :P | |
| <siccness> the TV or the cricket ground? | |
| <Tate> TV | |
| <siccness> It's completely sold out | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> cricket on tv=20% cricket, 30% in game adds, 50% 'normal' adds | |
| *** Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | |
| <Phlosten> Tate, ping | |
| <Tate> Phlosten: ? | |
| <Phlosten> Tate, nm, was just trying to work out how to install from AUR, but eventially found instructions\ | |
| <Tate> ahh yes, you use the "ABS" | |
| <Phlosten> now i am trying to work out why xmms, audacious wont play audio cds | |
| <Tate> but obviously you've figured out | |
| <Tate> umm, to be honest... I've never tried playing an audio CD | |
| * Tate searches | |
| <Phlosten> the basic 'cd player' will handle them | |
| <Phlosten> but i want to play through something with eq | |
| <Tate> you need "libcdaudio" | |
| <Tate> did that work? | |
| <merlin-linux> w00t my new adsl2+ modem / router is great | |
| <merlin-linux> i just downloaded a 100MB test file and this the average speed "12:48:52 (1.91 MB/s) - `100meg.test' saved [104857600]" | |
| <merlin-linux> off the internode mirror | |
| <Tate> that's leet | |
| <Tate> I'm on ADSL2+, I'm lucky to get faster than ~450KB/sec | |
| <merlin-linux> i bought myself a billion 7300 modem / router this morning | |
| <merlin-linux> and it working bloody great :-D | |
| <merlin-linux> while i was downloading the 100MB test file from internodes mirror i was peaking over 2MB/s | |
| <DarkMageZ> merlin-linux, i'm coming over to leech your bandwidth yo | |
| <DarkMageZ> Tate, you should be getting atleast 1.3MB/s off your isp's servers | |
| <DarkMageZ> hmm, when did telstra start telemarketing to people on their compeditors mobiles | |
| * DarkMageZ starts considering gunning down telstra executives again | |
| <merlin-linux> that speed test was done over my wifi connection | |
| <merlin-linux> i just about to test my 100MiB lan | |
| <quail> haha over my wire44d connection it is slower "13:41:21 (1.38 MB/s) - `100meg.test' saved [104857600]" | |
| <quail> s/wire44d/wired | |
| <DarkMageZ> :P | |
| <DarkMageZ> either way, i'm coming over | |
| <quail> yeah it faster than the adsl2 modem / router i had on loan | |
| <quail> and my upstream speed is ~1750Kbps | |
| <DarkMageZ> nice | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah my connection is Annex M enabled | |
| <DarkMageZ> ooo, 2.5mbit (theoretical) | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah | |
| * merlin-linux thinks he has to buy some AA cells for his wireless keyboard | |
| *** user__ is now known as Daring_Dave | |
| <Daring_Dave> How can I check the specs on an iMac running OS 9.0.3? | |
| <Daring_Dave> Hello? | |
| <merlin-linux> Daring_Dave: not sure | |
| <Daring_Dave> Thanks anyway. See ya. | |
| *** fildo_ is now known as fildo | |
| *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <Tate> DarkMageZ: not necessarily, the speed of ADSL2+ is determined by your distance from the exchange | |
| <Tate> in addition to other limiations such as the servers you're downloading off, cable quality, devices (such as modem), etc | |
| <DarkMageZ> Tate, if it's lower than 1.3mbit on adsl2+ from your isp, then something needs to be looked at | |
| <Tate> errr, sorry, I completely misread you. I'm on 4.5mbit | |
| <DarkMageZ> oh ok :) | |
| <Phlosten> Tate, thanks, trying the libcdaudio now | |
| <Tate> Phlosten: awesome. The forums are a wonderful resource | |
| <Phlosten> hmm, do they need to be mounted? | |
| <Phlosten> still not working | |
| <Phlosten> the desktop shows the icon with Audio Disc, but I cant seem to get Audacious etc to play it | |
| <Tate> shouldn't need to be mounted | |
| <Tate> it might be worth your while to remove the optical disk entry /etc/fstab too | |
| <Tate> let gnome-vfs take care of it | |
| <Phlosten> ah, good thinking | |
| <Tate> then try logging in and out | |
| <Phlosten> hmm no optical reference in fstab | |
| <Tate> you also need to select the "CD Audio Plugin" in Audacious | |
| <Phlosten> gnome-vfs isnt installed | |
| * Phlosten installs | |
| <Tate> hmm... I'm getting mixed results, but apparently XMMS/Audacious don't use gnome-vfs, and you need the /etc/fstab entry | |
| <Tate> it needs to be /dev/cdrom | |
| <Tate> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cd auto ro,user,noauto,unhide 0 0 | |
| <Phlosten> hazzah! | |
| <Tate> nice :) | |
| <Phlosten> i changed mount point to /mnt/cdrom | |
| <Phlosten> and install gnome-vfs | |
| <Phlosten> its probably the gnome-vfs | |
| <Phlosten> audacious is quite slick | |
| <Tate> yea, I use the gstreamer framework + gnome-vfs so I removed the entry from /etc/fstab | |
| <Tate> yea, it's nice | |
| <Tate> but I've moved off the winamp style music players to the "music database management" | |
| <Phlosten> woot, and double size effects equaliser etc as well | |
| <Tate> it's easier to sort my music, since I prefer to listen by album | |
| <Phlosten> i have loads of audio cds | |
| <Phlosten> only 1 mp3 on my system atm | |
| <Tate> why not rip them to flac/ogg Phlosten? | |
| <Phlosten> Tate, because I am lazy | |
| <Tate> lol | |
| <Tate> sound juicer does a nice job | |
| <Phlosten> a lot of them are audio cd's made from mp3's | |
| <Tate> ohh | |
| <Tate> then there's no point ripping them to flac | |
| <Phlosten> indeed | |
| <Tate> <3 flac | |
| <Phlosten> a few of my cds have a scratches on them too | |
| <Phlosten> still ok to play, but can be a hassle to rip | |
| <Phlosten> its easier to go download someone elses rip. I had a few thousand mp3s on here a while back but lost that collection in the great hdd crash of 2006 | |
| <Tate> ahh, you need to backup your data :) | |
| <Phlosten> i had a lot of them on cd, not the recent aquisitions tho | |
| <Tate> or invest in RAID | |
| <Phlosten> not too concerned about the music loss | |
| <Phlosten> it can always be downloaded again | |
| <Phlosten> i get 1500 adsl next month so waiting until then :) | |
| <Phlosten> lol, http://iminurwebsite.com/index.cfm?id=91 | |
| <merlin-linux> back | |
| <Phlosten> merlin-linux, have a look at this crazy shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPMQRE_zhsQ | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: lmao | |
| <Phlosten> if any one of them were me, i'd be playing lotto | |
| <Phlosten> bbl, shops and other places to visit | |
| * siccness is knockin back a coopers pale ale | |
| * TigerWolf is half way through a hahn super dry | |
| * kgoetz is abusing evolution | |
| <siccness> I forgotten how boring Coopers Pale Ale was | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, very valid pasttime | |
| <siccness> It's not a bad beer | |
| <siccness> but it's flavourless. | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: i'm wondering if i should be abbusing evo or exim though | |
| <kgoetz> adhoc_: you about? | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, go both for good measure | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: could do, but i would double my workload to fix both | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, good point | |
| <kgoetz> exim is working in as much as mail is being taken and put into spool. its not working in as much as the mails not getting from spool into pop - but iirc that a courier thing | |
| <kgoetz> so maybe i need to abuse courier | |
| <siccness> A day after hearing Paris Hilton throwing up during a singing performance, the great superiors have decided to bless us with greater news. Britney Spears is considering releasing her sex tape for free. | |
| <kgoetz> incase there are people who havent got it free already? | |
| <siccness> Damn it, the news is fake. | |
| * siccness cries | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| <elkbuntu> wha... you can actually HEAR the pukeformance? | |
| * siccness goes back to Paris Hilton | |
| <siccness> Well there's a sextape that Kevin "No-Job-No-Future" Federline has of the two, but he passed on a deal made by an Adult Production company. | |
| <kgoetz> at least couriers confi file is only 300 lines | |
| <siccness> V8 Supercars Bahrain this weekend :D | |
| <kgoetz> bahrain? | |
| <siccness> Yeah, some city overseas. | |
| <kgoetz> oh | |
| <kgoetz> ggrrRRRrr. courier hates me | |
| * kgoetz wonders wher email has to be for courier to pick it up | |
| * kgoetz flails. get home aready adhoc_ :\ | |
| *** noiesmo_ is now known as noiesmo | |
| <kgoetz> pulling mail directly out of the mail spool works, but i'm not sure i like the idea | |
| <kgoetz> i do rather want all the mail in Maildirs ;\ | |
| * kgoetz wonders whos email he should read | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya kgoetz how are you mate? | |
| <kgoetz> merlin-linux: well, email not working, so not o wondering | |
| <merlin-linux> damn, i got my billion 7300 today and loving life on the net | |
| <kgoetz> sweet | |
| <merlin-linux> i downloaded a 100MB test file off of node mirror and averaged 1.91 MB/s downstream :-) | |
| <kgoetz> me puts dale on the 'to visit' list | |
| <siccness> Pretty weak, merlin-linux | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <siccness> oo, new stable kernel out | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: that was coming through to my wifi connected laptop | |
| <siccness> Very nice | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: and it better than some are getting for my area | |
| <siccness> Yeah I was only kidding mate :) | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <quail> dslreports.com speed test 2006-11-23 04:24:16 EST: | |
| <quail> 12441 / 1339 (Kbps) | |
| <quail> (1518.6 / 163.4 KB/sec) | |
| <quail> Compared to the average of 372 tests from on.net: | |
| <quail> * download is 268% better, upload is 208% better | |
| * kgoetz should run a test at b.water. | |
| <kgoetz> quail: wheres the link to the speed tester? | |
| <merlin-linux> kgoetz: here >>> http://www.internode.on.net/tools/speedtest/index.htm | |
| <kgoetz> 397 / 47 (Kbps) | |
| <kgoetz> (48.4 / 5.8 KB/sec) | |
| <kgoetz> Compared to the average of 372 tests from on.net: | |
| <kgoetz> * download is 88% worse, upload is 89% worse | |
| <kgoetz> merlin-linux: just found it | |
| <kgoetz> ^^ thats th ehut | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| * merlin-linux has no comment | |
| * kgoetz needs to get them upgraded to a decent linespeed | |
| <kgoetz> they use 700mb of bandwidth a month | |
| <kgoetz> and have a 20 gig cap. | |
| <kgoetz> *700mb* | |
| <kgoetz> (well, 700mb of *metred* content) | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <kgoetz> actually guys, i'm heading home | |
| <siccness> Catchya soon mate | |
| <kgoetz> back on line in 1-1.5 hours | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> See ya. | |
| <kgoetz> see you then :) | |
| <merlin-linux> bye | |
| <siccness> i wish my tafe was open at 8:30pm | |
| <merlin-linux> kgoetz: you welcome to come over when ever :-) | |
| <siccness> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=632112 <--What a champion | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Can you still do that? | |
| <siccness> Beats me | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hasn't anyone tried? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Apart from him? | |
| <siccness> I'm assuming there's more than 1 person the world that has not accepted the terms. | |
| <siccness> A refund MUST be given if you do not agree to the terms. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Are you sure? | |
| <siccness> As there's no terms/agreements on the box | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I heard M$ rewrote the EULA so you couldn't refund the software. | |
| <siccness> Then what's the point of having the agreements? | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: yes you are with in your right to ask for money back on software that you are not going to use | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Even OEM software? | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: the EULA doesn't apply if you don't agree to it | |
| <merlin-linux> yes | |
| <siccness> Yes, Davo_Dinkum | |
| <siccness> So really, every computer you purchase can be OS-less. | |
| <merlin-linux> and it not MS that give you the money back | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What if you buy OEM software without a PC? (ie: at a computer market, I've seen some OEM copies of XP there) | |
| <siccness> Well good luck getting your money back from the market :| | |
| <merlin-linux> it the manufacture gives you the refund | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah OK. So you don't have to go straight to Microsoft then? | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: it only for new unsed software | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: no | |
| <siccness> So the next computer a family member purchases that comes with OS, ill make sure I do this. | |
| <merlin-linux> you get in contact with the people you got the pc from or the manufacture like dell, acer, etc | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Unless it's Ubuntu :D | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What if it's a whitebox/generic PC? | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: like leader? | |
| <siccness> Well it'd still legally have to apply. | |
| <siccness> Because it's not just for OS's | |
| <siccness> If you purchase software and don't agree to their terms | |
| <siccness> then you can get a refund | |
| * Davo_Dinkum thinks. | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: read here >>> http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Isn't that US law though? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oops never mind. | |
| <siccness> Sweet, Linux exam on Thursday :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Back soon. | |
| <noiesmo> merlin-linux, that was a dam good read will have to keep that handy for next laptop purchase | |
| <merlin-linux> np | |
| <siccness> That is pretty cool link, merlin-linux | |
| <adhoc_> kgoetz: ping? | |
| <lucychili> kgoetz, ping | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc_, lucychili pong | |
| <siccness> Wazzup | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> was getting cleaned up for tomorrow | |
| <lucychili> hi | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <lucychili> have we got a deal for you | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol :S | |
| <lucychili> room with a view of a brick wall | |
| <lucychili> for just over a week | |
| <lucychili> with hot and cold running waggers | |
| <lucychili> ? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> do you mean.... *sinister music* ... responsability? | |
| <lucychili> 21.12 - 31.1 | |
| <lucychili> could be could be | |
| <lucychili> for a week | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> a week when? | |
| <lucychili> 21.12 - 31.1 | |
| <lucychili> its across xmas so could be a pain | |
| <lucychili> understand if thats not handy | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 31.1 = 31.12? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'd have to ask family | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: you rang? | |
| <lucychili> yup | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc_, shall we pic a chan and talk in it? ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, i'll try and remember it tomorrow night when i see mum next | |
| <siccness> Does anyone know how to use curl to retrieve a file from a https link (with username/password [inputted, of course]? | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: ol | |
| <adhoc_> ok | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser scratches face. this shaved feeling is kinda weird | |
| <adhoc_> siccness: use the environment variable | |
| <merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: don't shave :-P | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: get used to it | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: if you want job where you're the face of youth.... | |
| <merlin-linux> i don't shave i just use the clippers | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser giggles. so having a face would be an advantage | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: especially at an interview | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc_, thats what i was thinking. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, is tehre parking in the area over tehre, or should i park a bit away and walk in? | |
| <adhoc_> it will be hot on the morrow | |
| <adhoc_> 33° | |
| <adhoc_> forecast | |
| <Tatey> fella's | |
| <merlin-linux> whats happening tomorrow | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> gah. hot | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hey Tatey | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: so get there early to get some cool down time in | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya Tatey | |
| <lucychili> parking but for 2 hours | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc_, yup | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 2 hours should be fine, as long as im' not stupidly early | |
| <adhoc_> lucychili: you're going to have to lend Kamping_Kaiser a respectable hairband | |
| <lucychili> tru | |
| <adhoc_> oops, buzzer! | |
| <adhoc_> BRB | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser has some not pink ones :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> good point though | |
| <siccness> Hmm /me scratches his head | |
| <merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: were the hot pink one | |
| <merlin-linux> oops wear | |
| <lucychili> ill put one in the letterbox | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dark blue, red, light blue, orange, a yellowy colour, and white :) | |
| <merlin-linux> are you all wearing black? | |
| <Tatey> http://files.redvsblue.com/web/images/comic/RT_Comic_Ep42_Sins.jpg | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wondesr why whereis.c.a puts eduau off fullarton rd, not on it | |
| <lucychili> yes its in a service road | |
| <merlin-linux> Tatey: lmao | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Tatey, ROFL | |
| <lucychili> its easiest to drive into a back street off greenhill | |
| <lucychili> and walk to fullarton | |
| <Tatey> someone go post that in a pro-Apple channel :P | |
| <lucychili> or if you can get a park | |
| <lucychili> switf is the turn off from fullarton into the service road | |
| <lucychili> swift | |
| <merlin-linux> Tatey: what the channel | |
| <Tatey> I don't know :P | |
| <merlin-linux> and i will do a /sysinfo to | |
| <Tatey> I doubt there is one on this network | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ##apple probably exists, or another -ot chan | |
| * merlin-linux went trolling | |
| <elkbuntu> i hope you didnt | |
| <merlin-linux> that a linux friendly channel | |
| <merlin-linux> we can't bag them | |
| <elkbuntu> you said you already did | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bhahahaha. /topic #apple and see why its a bad idea to troll them | |
| <merlin-linux> elkbuntu: no, but i went into there channel | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> * ##apple | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: lt's do it :D | |
| <siccness> *lets | |
| <hantu> elkbuntu: congrats ^^; | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: go ahead | |
| <elkbuntu> hantu, thanks :) | |
| <hantu> sup quail, sicc, K... | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hey hantu | |
| <merlin-linux> ni hao hantu | |
| <siccness> Hey hantu, how are ya mate? | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, nalioth is a mac user. nalioth is a staff member | |
| <hantu> im alright, still pondering over lca. | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, i will not be able to get you un-klined | |
| <siccness> You really do take me seriously :P | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, issuing pre-emptive warnings. i'd rather be overcautious. | |
| <siccness> rightio. | |
| <hantu> hrm, *goes install subversion* | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser thought his warning was enough | |
| <hantu> bbl. | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, especially since if you did, i'd likely get an earbashing from the good texan :) | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| <Tatey> I'm a Mac user too | |
| <Tatey> I prefer Linux though | |
| <pschulz01> Tatey: Ubuntu on Mac.. best of both worlds :-) | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser should fire up his old mac again | |
| <Tatey> as long as it's not PPC, argh @ PPC :P | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Tatey, :O | |
| <Tatey> Kamping_Kaiser: not the architecture itself, just, the lack of support for it on the Linux platform | |
| <adhoc_> Tatey: ppc nubus gooooooooooood | |
| <Tatey> win32codecs, flash plugin | |
| <adhoc_> Tatey: and your point is? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Tatey, what doesnt work? bash is there, and the kernel loads fine :) | |
| <Tatey> my point is that if I wanted to use either of those things then I can't. It's useless to me | |
| <adhoc_> Kamping_Kaiser: same for my vax | |
| <adhoc_> hi frederick85 | |
| <frederick85> hey adhoc_ | |
| <frederick85> adhoc_ you are website developer aren't you? | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: you've been pinging me over the last few days? | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: have been | |
| <frederick85> adhoc_: nope | |
| <adhoc_> anyhow, why do you ask? | |
| <frederick85> adhoc_: how do you go with the design component of your websites | |
| <frederick85> do you get pedantic about it | |
| <adhoc_> look and feel? | |
| <adhoc_> or site architecture? | |
| <adhoc_> or software architecture? | |
| <frederick85> the visual design | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: i'm a sysadmin/programmer | |
| <adhoc_> visual design ain't my bag | |
| <adhoc_> as long as its tidy | |
| <adhoc_> and has all the required info | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser hugs valid html+css | |
| * adhoc_ has a grapho at arms length away to ask hard questions | |
| <adhoc_> like colour and 'design' | |
| * siccness belts wget | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser debates early bed | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Just do it.. | |
| <frederick85> adhoc_: yes, i prefer just programming but feel interested in learning some techniques for making web layouts/graphics look nice | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: go learn CSS | |
| * pschulz01 has a new Linux Journal and a packet of Happy Feet penguins. | |
| <frederick85> adhoc_: I am learning that | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: and AJAX | |
| <frederick85> adhoc_: what's AJAX | |
| <adhoc_> good stuff (tm) | |
| <frederick85> hmm expand on it a bit mroe for me | |
| <hantu> asynchoronous javascript and xml | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser sugests a 'web search' | |
| <hantu> its basically javascript =P | |
| <merlin-linux> here is one for you all >>> http://images.optin.com.au/optusxmas/flash/penguin_tebe.swf?msg=Hello%20Ubuntu-AU'ers | |
| <adhoc_> liehgt weight client side applications in java script | |
| <hantu> with XmlHttpClient (or something) | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: think google mail and google maps | |
| <hantu> think prototype! | |
| <hantu> :P | |
| <hantu> hi adhocz :) | |
| <adhoc_> frederick85: you want to see some cool ajax, go see the zimbra demo site =) | |
| <adhoc_> hi hantu | |
| <frederick85> How is my own site http://freds-webs.net It's new to me I didn't use tables | |
| <hantu> color doesnt match, imo :P | |
| <frederick85> I could change the colour easy | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser slaps hantu for US spelling | |
| <frederick85> But i'm happy with it how it is | |
| * hantu ctrl-shift-s it. | |
| <hantu> mmm | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, *lol* me too | |
| *** adhoc_ is now known as adhoc | |
| <siccness> I can't read the text that's on top of the flower, frederick85 | |
| <hantu> Kamping_Kaiser: hehehehe | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser ctrl-shift-h's it | |
| <frederick85> Doesn't that Zimbra demo use flash 9? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, i'd validate that page again if i was you | |
| <hantu> siccness: there's no text there! you're drunk. | |
| <siccness> and the spacing of the text is difficult to read, it's almost as if it's one word. | |
| <pschulz01> merlin-linux: That's great! | |
| <frederick85> how do I validate my page? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> validator.w3.org | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> validate by URL | |
| <siccness> maybe big siccness should make a site | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: huh? | |
| <pschulz01> merlin-linux: The card! | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe yeah | |
| <frederick85> ooh an error | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, i sugest an install of this extention (if you use firefox) https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/60/ | |
| <merlin-linux> http://images.optin.com.au/optusxmas/flash/penguin_tebe.swf?msg=<type your own message here> | |
| <frederick85> I wonder why I have come drawn into this channel over all others | |
| <frederick85> must have nicer people | |
| <pschulz01> merlin-linux: Needs more penguins at the end. | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: yeah it does | |
| <pschulz01> Night all.. | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: g'night | |
| <frederick85> cool i fixed my stupid html | |
| * hantu ctrl-alt-delete's it. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, nice work | |
| * adhoc looks at the time | |
| <adhoc> @537 | |
| <adhoc> bed time | |
| <frederick85> anymore criticisms about my websites text? | |
| <frederick85> i seem to be biased with my own work | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, why do sometyhing + link both point to #, but the other 3 links are to php pages? | |
| <adhoc> frederick85: put copyright own by you at the bottom as well, and any CC material licenced under respective licences,etc,etc | |
| <hantu> maybe he hasn't decided what to put ;) | |
| <frederick85> Kamping_Kaiser, i will address that problem later | |
| <frederick85> adhoc: i didn't copy it | |
| <adhoc> no, but you have copyright on materials you create. | |
| <TheMuso> c | |
| <adhoc> Copyright, $DATE, $OWNER | |
| <adhoc> easy | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> copyright is automatically applied, but its good to make it explicit | |
| <adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: especially for folks not from AU | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, /me has E17 cvs checkout | |
| <adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i cvs co'd on the lappy | |
| <adhoc> but don;t have the build pre reqs yet =/ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :( | |
| <hantu> e17. | |
| <hantu> eek | |
| <hantu> that scares me | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser will worry about compiling sunday/monday when i get home | |
| * adhoc remembers DR9 days | |
| <adhoc> hantu: does gieger scare you? | |
| <hantu> gieger? | |
| <adhoc> geiger ? | |
| <hantu> teddy geiger? | |
| <adhoc> the guy that drew uup the 'alien' for the aliens moives | |
| <hantu> oh. | |
| <hantu> i thought you were talking about that teenie pop star. | |
| <hantu> :P | |
| <adhoc> who? | |
| <adhoc> no, not likely | |
| * adhoc wouldn't admit to knowing any teenagers | |
| <hantu> im 14, you know me. | |
| <hantu> well, virtually. | |
| <adhoc> actually i think siccness is the only teenager i know | |
| <hantu> how ol' is big sicc? | |
| <adhoc> oh ... and you too hantu =) | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser stands by aged and maturely | |
| <adhoc> hantu: 18 i think | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 19 | |
| <hantu> ah. | |
| <hantu> now i feel old :P | |
| <hantu> i thought he was like 35 | |
| <adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: is verging on being an adult soon ;) | |
| <hantu> *ducks* | |
| <hantu> and how ol' are you K? :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol hantu | |
| <adhoc> hantu: old enough to know better than to tell you | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, old enough | |
| <hantu> shush. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. | |
| <hantu> :( | |
| <hantu> and by adult you mean 21? ;P | |
| <hantu> lost track of how old i am, lemme count. | |
| <hantu> brb | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> teehehee | |
| <hantu> yeah i turned 21 less than a month ago :P | |
| <frederick85> http://freds-webs.net hey guys is the text better now? | |
| <hantu> sicc will complain for not being able to read the text on top of the flower. | |
| <hantu> :) but yeah looks bad | |
| <hantu> er | |
| <hantu> s/bad/not bad/ | |
| <frederick85> cheers | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i just realised my Alpha is more 64 bit then any currently x86_64 system | |
| <merlin-linux> frederick85: it to big now | |
| <adhoc> frederick85: main body text is quite small, but if thats a design feature ... | |
| <frederick85> the flower looks nice though and i'm not confident enough to position it somewhere cool | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, its to big now imo. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and have you validated the CSS? | |
| <frederick85> kamping_kaiser: how do I validate my css mate | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, same site. just a mote | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *mo | |
| <frederick85> I set the font-size:140%; in my css file | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ | |
| <merlin-linux> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffreds-webs.net%2F&usermedium=all | |
| <frederick85> my css doc is fubar | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> fair level of breakage in CSS :(* | |
| <frederick85> don't worry, it's easy to fix, not like trying to find SIGSEGs in a C project | |
| * frederick85 runs | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, you checked your email? http://www.binaryfreedom.info/?q=node/45 came via gns list | |
| <MatthewV> elkbuntu, is eucalyptbot still active? if not I'll remove the links from the wiki.. | |
| <elkbuntu> MatthewV, haha. no. and it's strange you ask that. im currently rebuilding the 'server' he was on | |
| <frederick85> Kamping_Kaiser, whats up with this line Property backgound-color doesn't exist : #a9a9e2 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> let me check | |
| <elkbuntu> MatthewV, if you can check if randumb's cgi:irc is still going, replace references with it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, is that a valid background hex colour? is all i can think off off the top of my head | |
| <MatthewV> elkbuntu, yes, i know the cgi::irc is there, so I was thinking of replacing the links with that ;) .. I'll do that then | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, or have you used the colour, without setting it in css? | |
| <MatthewV> for now anyway | |
| <hantu> hrm, is it advisable to have svn repo in /home/? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hantu, seems an odd place for it | |
| <hantu> i thought so too. | |
| <hantu> saw it from some doc | |
| <hantu> what would you suggest? | |
| <frederick85> cool fixed CSS now | |
| <adhoc> @555 | |
| <adhoc> now its really time for bed | |
| <adhoc> night all | |
| <hantu> @555? | |
| <adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: yes i read it | |
| <hantu> night adhoc! :) | |
| <adhoc> hantu: internet time | |
| <hantu> oh. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> frederick85, nice :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 8 warnings, but still | |
| <hantu> nini adhoc | |
| <frederick85> Kamping_Kaiser: i have warnings too!! | |
| <frederick85> ok more to fix :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i had warnings, so i had to use #000 because it wouldnt let me use color:black and background-color: back :) | |
| <cef> interesting, html tidy doesn't give any warnings | |
| <cef> ahh it doesn't check css though.. bah! | |
| <frederick85> what deosn't | |
| <cef> htmltidy | |
| <cef> using the htmltidy browser extension for firefox | |
| <cef> wonder if there is a css checking extension.. hrm! | |
| <cef> ooh! the EditCSS extension looks useful | |
| <cef> then again WebDeveloper has CSS editing built in too | |
| <frederick85> cef: got any suggestions for my own site | |
| <cef> not really | |
| <frederick85> i find with design i just get along by doing tiny bits at a time | |
| <frederick85> don't really imagine the whole things at once | |
| <frederick85> comes together | |
| <frederick85> think it's called bottom up design | |
| <frederick85> whats design and technology again | |
| *** hantoo is now known as hantu | |
| <hantu> hrm | |
| <Tatey> hrm2u2 | |
| <hantu> hihi. | |
| <merlin-linux> lah lah | |
| <merlin-linux> w0w it going to be 30C tomorrow here | |
| <Tatey> nice | |
| <hantu> brr screw you svnadmin | |
| <frederick85> hello | |
| <frederick85> siccness:gdayyyy | |
| <siccness> Hey | |
| <frederick85> siccness: I would like some criticisms from you about the visual presentation of my website | |
| <frederick85> http://freds-webs.net | |
| <siccness> It's very bright man, that's all. | |
| <siccness> It does look clean and simple though | |
| <frederick85> Maybe I could find a color other than that light orange that works a bit better perhaps | |
| <frederick85> thanks for looking anyway | |
| <siccness> <--so happy. Compiled FF2 in 23mins 9seconds. Previous compile time was 35mins 3seconds. | |
| <frederick85> what's FF2 | |
| <siccness> FireFox 2.0 | |
| <frederick85> ahh | |
| <frederick85> I prefer to use epiphanyt | |
| <frederick85> epiphany | |
| <frederick85> seems to load quicker for me | |
| <siccness> I dunno, FF2 loads pretty bloody quickly for me. | |
| <frederick85> what's your computer specs | |
| <siccness> AMD Opteron 165 (1808MHz @ 2808MHz), 1024MB RAM (DDR PC3200) | |
| <Tatey> woot, just finished my resume | |
| <siccness> Top work. | |
| <siccness> (im off, gotta go set cpu back to stock settings) | |
| <merlin-linux> morning all | |
| <nrdb> merlin-linux: hi | |
| <merlin-linux> nrdb: hiya | |
| <nrdb> does anyone here have any experience programing FPGA using Linux? can it be done? |
