| <alternatesirk> is anyone familiar with loading screensaver daemon on boot? | |
| <Ermac`> wich is the best messenger on linux that looks like Windows messenger, with the screenimage etc... except amsn | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: 'best' and 'looks like windows' don't get well together | |
| <Ermac`> lol | |
| <Ermac`> i should have known | |
| <Ermac`> but wich is best excpt gaim and amsn? | |
| <kalikiana> although qip is nice in linux | |
| <kalikiana> but i use gaim anyway | |
| <Ermac`> qip? | |
| <kalikiana> it's for aol/ icq | |
| <Ermac`> oh ok | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: what instant messenging network do you use? | |
| <Ermac`> msn | |
| <TheSheep> ah, should have guessed :) not much experience with this one though :( | |
| <Ermac`> :'( | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: try aMSN | |
| <Ermac`> amsn sux :s | |
| * cellofellow likes it better than MSN 7 | |
| <Ermac`> its like bad on everything, gfx-interface etc | |
| <Ermac`> :/ | |
| <cellofellow> supports all of the MSN 7 features, and then some. | |
| <cellofellow> 'cept winks | |
| <cellofellow> which I don't miss. | |
| <Ermac`> hehe | |
| <Ermac`> me to | |
| <Ermac`> :p | |
| * cellofellow used gmail and a jabber transport for a long time. | |
| <Ermac`> the default skin is like SUCKy :p | |
| <Ermac`> are other themes sucky too? | |
| <metatecque> Using edgy - cd tested OK - X fails to start - any ideas - via chipset | |
| <maxamillion> hello all | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: some are nice | |
| <cellofellow> him maxamillion | |
| <cellofellow> hi | |
| <maxamillion> hey cellofellow | |
| <maxamillion> how goes it? | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: I read your C follies article, and it went right over my head. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: i sorry ... but did you atleast compile and see how it works strangely | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: compile which one? I didn't any of them. I did figure out my mugwump thing though. | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: I added a trash variable to put those extra newlines that were being buffered into. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah, any change in program funcionality? | |
| <maxamillion> hiya JKnife | |
| <JKnife> XD | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: works now. I got all the player controls working perfectly. Now for the Mugwump... | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: you were getting slow speed on my fserve =P | |
| <maxamillion> well, glad to hear you got it working ... it really should have functioned the way you had it written, but then again ... C Follies are many in number | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: was i? | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: i didn't even do anything but connect | |
| <JKnife> ohh | |
| <JKnife> you didn't pull a pic? | |
| <JKnife> ohh n/m | |
| <JKnife> i am NOT ok | |
| * JKnife slaps self so freaking hard | |
| <maxamillion> lol | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: about conky. is there a way to get it to have no borders without using fluxbox? | |
| <TheSheep> maxamillion: C follies? | |
| <cellofellow> http://pseudogen.blogspot.com/2006/11/c-follies.html | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah, in the .conkyrc you should be able to do it ... read their docs, i think i saw an option for it in there | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: ok | |
| <Ermac`> i just installed xubuntu yesterday.. but what is the root password :s | |
| <Ermac`> i never entered one :s | |
| <cellofellow> weird | |
| <maxamillion> ? | |
| <kalikiana> Ermac: there is no root password by default | |
| <cellofellow> ermac just came, asked his question, and left. | |
| <kalikiana> maybe, so i'm gonna play heroes 3 some more :P | |
| <Ermac`> what is the default root password in xubuntu???? | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: there isn't one | |
| <Ermac`> wtf :( | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: there is no root account by default | |
| <Ermac`> well i try to add a skin to amsn | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: what are you trying to do? | |
| <Ermac`> and it says i have no access o_O | |
| <maxamillion> use sudo | |
| <Ermac`> so i try root :p | |
| <Ermac`> sudo on a nonterminal interface ^o) | |
| <maxamillion> sudo amsn | |
| <Ermac`> how you copy a directory? just cp /dir/ | |
| <Ermac`> ? | |
| <JKnife> cp -r | |
| <maxamillion> wait ... the password any program will ask you for should be your password | |
| <maxamillion> you are the admin | |
| <omar> hello everyone, I have a problem installing xubuntu 6.10 on my old laptop | |
| <maxamillion> omar: what's the problem? | |
| <Ermac`> it doesnt ask, i just try to copy/paste files through browser not terminal maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: ohhhh that's easy | |
| <omar> after booting from th CD, and choosing 'start/install Xubuntu' the screen become black and nothing happen | |
| <Ermac`> oh yea? | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: alt+f2 will open a run prompt, put in "sudo Thunar" and it should ask for a password | |
| <omar> I don't even hear the sound of the CD | |
| <maxamillion> omar: did you verify the md5sum of the downloaded iso image? | |
| <omar> yes I did | |
| <omar> it is right | |
| <omar> correct * | |
| <Ermac`> thx dude maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: anytime :) | |
| <maxamillion> omar: interesting | |
| <omar> my laptop is IBM thinkpad | |
| <Ermac`> linux is just too easy that i just think it has to be the hard way if you get what i mean... | |
| <omar> 2628 | |
| <omar> it is too old | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: i get it :) | |
| <omar> it has 64 MB of Ram | |
| <omar> :( | |
| <Ermac`> omg | |
| <maxamillion> omar: ohhh you need the alternate cd image ... did you get it? | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: ? | |
| <omar> why ? | |
| <Ermac`> everyone on linux has low ram memory?? | |
| <Ermac`> :/ | |
| <maxamillion> omar: because the deskop cd needs atleast 128mb of ram to boot | |
| <omar> oh pleaaase | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: naw, i'm sitting infront of an Athlon64 X2 4600+ w/ 2gb ddr2 ram | |
| <maxamillion> omar: www.xubuntu.org/get | |
| <omar> why they didn't write this ? | |
| <maxamillion> omar: we did | |
| <maxamillion> omar: look at the link i send you | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: got it to work | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: sweet | |
| <omar> thanks a lot maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> omar: anytime :) | |
| <omar> I will download the alternate CD | |
| <Ermac`> maxamillion, mine is not that huge :p but it is running well, 2gb ddr2 Athlon XP 2500 | |
| <omar> another q : do you know any install guide ? | |
| <cellofellow> I'm trying to convince my mom to scrap the half-dead winME on her lappy and let me put xubuntu on. She doesn't like OOo says it's too slow. All she needs is a good pop3 client and an office suite that supports MS-Doc and changes. | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: nice ... yeah, this is just my work machine ... at home i only have an Athlon64 3200+ w/ 1gb ddr ... nothing to scoff at, but not quite as fast as this one :) | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: abiword seems to be faster | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: Xubuntu comes with thunderbird and abiword ... default install would be perfect for her | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: it is, but it doesn't have change tracking. | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: for some reason Juno doesn't like thunderbird. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: i use abiword more often then i do OOo just because its quicker, only use OOo when there is some weird table that it doesn't translate so well | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: juno can eat me then :P | |
| <TheSheep> not installing java part of oo helps a little... | |
| <maxamillion> true | |
| * cellofellow could probably hack around it. | |
| <cellofellow> the juno thing | |
| <cellofellow> how do I not install java-based features in OOo? | |
| <HeathenDan> don't install java in the first place :p | |
| <TheSheep> openoffice-java or something like that | |
| <cellofellow> oh | |
| <cellofellow> I installed Sun Java on my desktop and OOo runs faster with that than GNU's java. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah ... gij is nice by concept but it won't be that great until they start porting code from the newly released open source sun jvm | |
| <cellofellow> why bother now that sun is gpl? | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: who knows | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: but i bet it will be done anyways | |
| <cellofellow> there's only one version of perl, python, php, tcl/tk. we don't need two java's. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: heh ... you haven't really looked into the world of java much have you? | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: there are currently something around 5 "javas" | |
| <cellofellow> yeah yeah yeah I know choice is good, but you can choose between python and java, but why choose sun vs. gnu? | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: just from a users standpoint. | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: I know the non-sun ones are less resource hungry and all that. | |
| <cellofellow> but there are compatibility issues. | |
| <kalikiana> but since java is gpl soon, one might probably improve java :D | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: don't know ... but there is gcj, gij, jikes, kaffe, sun, (some other one i can't think of) | |
| <Ermac`> maxamillion, do you know if ATI X1600 Pro should work on xubuntu? | |
| <kalikiana> btw, is there a way to make java look like gtk? | |
| <Ermac`> xubuntu 6.2 | |
| <Ermac`> 6.1 | |
| <Ermac`> * | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: without a doubt ... and its Xubuntu 6.10 ... six.ten ;) | |
| <Ermac`> i know blahblah :p | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: 2006.October | |
| <Ermac`> ^^(h) | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: you might need to download and install ati's proprietary drivers either from ati or from a third party repopsitory in order to get 3d rendering ... but it will work :) | |
| <Ermac`> uhu ok | |
| <Ermac`> ;) | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: but i assume you would have to do that with any linux distro ... don't know though, i'm a nvidia guy | |
| <Ermac`> oh ok | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: I think the ubuntu fork Linux Mint includes the propietary drivers. | |
| <Ermac`> i ordered that gfx card and i didnt know if it should work | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: there are also random projects like http://koala.ilog.fr/djava/ | |
| <maxamillion> Ermac`: yeah, it will | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion: ok. I just thought jaa was a "platform" and should have some consistency. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: they might ... but i think with all the codecs and such that they are including by default that project will be shutdown | |
| <cellofellow> or become $$$ | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah ... java is pretty much its own platform | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: naw, microsoft will probably bury them ... because technically everytime you view a file of .wma on linux, you are breaking a law (unless you use realplayer ... i think) | |
| * cellofellow has the codecs, but doesn't really use them for windows media. | |
| <kalikiana> max: unless you have a spare windoze lieing around | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: because all media players that play .wma have to pay ms royalties for it .. but the linux community was like "we don't wanna and just wrote their own" | |
| <maxamillion> kalikiana: i think its because of the application you are using, because you can watch .wmv on OS X with microsoft's official plugin for quicktime | |
| <maxamillion> i gotta go ... | |
| <cellofellow> so is it a patents thing, or an actual rippoff of binaries. | |
| <cellofellow> darnit | |
| <Ermac`> any p2p programs on xubuntu? | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: none included by defualt | |
| <cellofellow> all in repos | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: isn't bittorent in by default? | |
| <Ermac`> are there i can install? | |
| <kalikiana> Ermac: use deluge for torrents | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: throngs | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: not last I checked. | |
| <Ermac`> throngs? | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: ktorrent | |
| <Ermac`> but like kazaa, ares, limewire.... | |
| <Ermac`> not torrent stuff | |
| <cellofellow> all available | |
| <kalikiana> there is amule | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: xmule, amule, mldonkey | |
| <Ermac`> wtf | |
| <Ermac`> TheSheep, | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: what's up? | |
| <Ermac`> i start xmumle and then it shuts down imidiately | |
| <Ermac`> xmule | |
| <kalikiana> fire up a terminal, i suggest | |
| <Ermac`> ? | |
| <cellofellow> Ermac`: open a terminal and watch the output for errors. | |
| <kalikiana> that's what i meant :) | |
| <Ermac`> Aborted (core dumped) | |
| <cellofellow> kalikiana: I know :) he didn't though. | |
| <cellofellow> not good. | |
| <Ermac`> thats what i get at the end | |
| <Ermac`> Aborted (core dumped) | |
| <cellofellow> anything else? | |
| <Ermac`> nope | |
| <cellofellow> :( never used mule | |
| <Ermac`> doh :( | |
| <Ermac`> what should i use then? | |
| <cellofellow> you said you don't like torrent, so that's all I've used for p2p. | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: try to just search for 'p2p' in synaptic | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: something should pop up | |
| <Ermac`> uhu | |
| <Ermac`> nothing useful found | |
| <BlueLobster> ahah, so a friend has managed to boot the livecd | |
| <BlueLobster> is staring at a prompt | |
| <BlueLobster> and would like to know how to start the installer | |
| <Ermac`> TheSheep, do you know how to install rpm files? | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: it should start installer automatically | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: not recommended | |
| <Ermac`> k :( | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: you can try and use alien, but better look for .deb files | |
| <BlueLobster> apparently it just got her to a prompt | |
| <Ermac`> limewire is only available on rpm | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: maybe the cd is broken? | |
| <TheSheep> !alien | |
| <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous). | |
| <BlueLobster> maybe the cd is broken... how to start the installer manually? | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: no idea, it's unlikely that it would run from a broken cd anyways... | |
| <kalikiana> Ermac: 'alien' might work, but only do it when necessary | |
| <BlueLobster> this ubuntu thing was supposed to be easy. I'm going to tell her to just install gentoo! | |
| <BlueLobster> har. | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: :) | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: best stick with what you know already | |
| <BlueLobster> so the livecd should boot into a graphical environment, and offer an install dialogue? | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: into graphical environment with fully functioning desktop, and there would be an 'install' icon on the desktop | |
| <BlueLobster> wow. how fancy. | |
| <TheSheep> ain't it? ;) | |
| <TheSheep> !md5 | |
| <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | |
| <Ermac`> btw wasn't it amule not xmule? | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: those are two different programs for the same thing | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: try both | |
| <Ermac`> amule works but is weird :p | |
| *** thomas_ is now known as Commander-Crowe | |
| <Commander-Crowe> is flash 9 for linux out yet? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> !flash | |
| <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | |
| <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: no | |
| <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: however, I've pushed the beta into Feisty, and there may be backports for Dapper and Edgy available [soon] | |
| <Cadteach> Anyone recommend any other file managers besides Thunar? | |
| <TheSheep> Cadteach: midnight commander | |
| <Cadteach> TheSheep: Does it handle samba mounted drives? | |
| <TheSheep> Cadteach: anything will handle a mounted drive -- when mounted, it becomes part of your filesystem | |
| <Cadteach> Thunar doesn't seem to? | |
| <TheSheep> Cadteach: how come? | |
| <Cadteach> I've just started using LinNeighborhood, have it configured, and mounted the drive. I can browse to the drive in Firefox and open, for example, picture files | |
| <Cadteach> But Thunar doesn't see it. | |
| <TheSheep> Cadteach: how does the path look like? | |
| <Cadteach> I'll check. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? | |
| <BlueLobster> how long is the initial stage of installation supposed to take, on an excruciatingly slow box? | |
| <BlueLobster> she's been staring at it for a w hile now | |
| <Ermac`> i need a videoplayer that can play mpg with sound :s cuz mine doesn't :'( | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: maybe you're lacking codecs? | |
| <Ermac`> maybe | |
| <Ermac`> how do i install them? | |
| <TheSheep> !codecs | |
| <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | |
| <Cadteach> TheSheep: I've found it. I was in the wrong path. Thanks. | |
| <TheSheep> glad it works | |
| <Ermac`> TheSheep, i installed win32codecs but still no sound | |
| <Ermac`> on beep media player (for mp3's) i can hear music | |
| <Ermac`> on video's i don't | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: what player do you use? | |
| <Ermac`> i tried codeine, kaffeine, nicotine.. joke, gxine | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: install libxine-extracodecs | |
| <Ermac`> helix player to | |
| <Ermac`> need to do anything else then apt get install codecsstuff? | |
| <TheSheep> not sure what you need fo the gstreamer-based players, it should be described on that page | |
| <TheSheep> just installing the packages should be enough | |
| <TheSheep> you might need to close the player too | |
| <ellioTb> great, my main comp just shut off during a game | |
| <ellioTb> now when i turn it on, it makes some really fast chirping noises, and powers off | |
| <ellioTb> sounds like it might be coming from the nvidia card | |
| <TheSheep> ellioTb: get the mainboards manual and see what error code it is beeping | |
| <TheSheep> ellioTb: chirping noises sound more like a hdd | |
| <ellioTb> i have the manual doesn't mention them | |
| <TheSheep> ellioTb: or cd drive | |
| <ellioTb> and its like 5 or 6 really fast | |
| <ellioTb> where it almost sounds like one | |
| <ellioTb> not ones where you would be able to count them | |
| <TheSheep> ellioTb: are they beeps or something else? | |
| <ellioTb> it happened during a game, and my vid card felt hot afterwards | |
| <ellioTb> more like fast chirping | |
| <ellioTb> gonna switch out the vid card and see if thats it | |
| <ellioTb> gonna be so sad if it is | |
| <TheSheep> well, either a fan or hdd or cd drive | |
| <TheSheep> video card doesn't have movable parts to make sounds | |
| <Ermac`> btw it still doesnt work | |
| <TheSheep> Ermac`: do you know what codec the video uses for sound? | |
| <Ermac`> no | |
| <JKnife> !seen Jester45 | |
| <ubotu> I last saw Jester45 (n=ryan@d38-216.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net) 21h 6m 49s ago, quiting: Client Quit | |
| <JKnife> o.O that is not like him | |
| <j1mc> i have a thinkpad t22 running xubuntu. would it be possible to run beryl on it with the stock video card? the stock video card is a "savage" type . . . not sure how much memory it has. | |
| <j1mc> the system has 256mb of RAM | |
| <JKnife> S3 *MAYBE* | |
| <JKnife> you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl not here though XD | |
| <j1mc> oh . . . thx, JKnife :) | |
| * JKnife thinks his topic has gone in vain | |
| <TheSheep> nobody reads topic | |
| <TheSheep> at least not past the first 80 characters | |
| <BlueLobster> horray for machines that hang during the xubuntu installation. | |
| <ellioTb> awsome, my nvidia card is toast | |
| <ellioTb> figured out the beeps | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: have you verified the cd? | |
| <ellioTb> man, gotta get a new video card | |
| <ellioTb> nvidia? or ati | |
| <BlueLobster> this is the second cd she's burned | |
| <ellioTb> never had an ati, cept in this notebook | |
| <BlueLobster> it boots sometimes but not others | |
| <BlueLobster> but seems to stall during the initial phase of the installaton no matter what | |
| <BlueLobster> and unless that's supposed to take like two hours, it fails. | |
| <BlueLobster> yay | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: there are options to verify it, the sheer number of cds burned don't say anything about their validity | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: also verify the iso you downloaded | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: then again, if the system has less than 192MB of memory, use the alternate cd, as the livecd's installer won't work | |
| <BlueLobster> 192 or 128 | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: 128 to run the livecd itself, 192 to run the installer | |
| <BlueLobster> well. | |
| <BlueLobster> that explains it. | |
| <BlueLobster> we're basically installing linux on a boat anchor. | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: if you have a faster box around, you could put the hdd there and do the install much faster | |
| <TheSheep> BlueLobster: then replace the hdd into the original box | |
| <TheSheep> and reconfigure xserver to autodetect the video card again | |
| <BlueLobster> well I'm not actually there. | |
| <BlueLobster> if I were I'd sort this all out personally. | |
| <BlueLobster> I'm trying to coach someone through it long distance. Quite the affair. | |
| <BlueLobster> anyway, there's not enough ram for the installer... I'll try the alternate cd | |
| <TheSheep> verify the iso before burning to save yourself some frustration | |
| <TheSheep> and burn at low speed | |
| <JKnife> who is in NC? | |
| <cellofellow> how do I cross compile C code for dos? | |
| <JKnife> wine is one way | |
| <cellofellow> It's not graphical, not windows, dos. | |
| <JKnife> the other is get a linux linker that can output to DOS format | |
| <JKnife> -_- wine can do dos also | |
| <cellofellow> I don't have dos. | |
| <JKnife> n/m | |
| <TheSheep> dosbox | |
| <TheSheep> :) | |
| <TheSheep> and djgpp | |
| * cellofellow could do that. | |
| <TheSheep> crosscompiling is a little more complicated, but also van be done | |
| <TheSheep> can | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <JKnife> wine has wineconsole | |
| <TheSheep> I think gcc can cross-compile to dos | |
| <cellofellow> I was under the impression it could. | |
| <TheSheep> JKnife: that's not really cross compiling | |
| <JKnife> and it was a windows compiler | |
| * cellofellow was hoping it could do it with a simple command argument | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: consult the gcc manual :) | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <JKnife> that is a big book =\ | |
| <TheSheep> searching for 'cross' should do it ;) | |
| <JKnife> :) | |
| <BlueLobster> alright so what's the deal with the alternate install cd | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It uses the old text installer. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> This makes it ideal for isntalling in custom situations or on low-RAM systems. | |
| <JKnife> or a non-custom on a high ram system for people that do not like change | |
| <cellofellow> lol | |
| <ellioTb> JKnife, my vid card died tonight, gotta get a new one | |
| <ellioTb> should i get ati or nvidia | |
| <ellioTb> never had an ati b4 | |
| <JKnife> =\ | |
| <JKnife> i am a nVidia fan boy.. what do you think i am gonna say? | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, i have only ever had nvidia | |
| <JKnife> and look at all the people that have had problems with atis in linux | |
| <cellofellow> nvidia all the way. | |
| <ellioTb> i had a 6800, so broke though | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: can i pm? | |
| <ellioTb> i bought the 6800 for $150 on a one day sale when it was normally $350 | |
| <ellioTb> now i gotta pay almost 150 for the same card a year or so later | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: what? I don't understand | |
| <JKnife> can i pm you | |
| <JKnife> better yet join my channel | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <aster> hello | |
| <JKnife> HI | |
| <aster> can somebody tell me how to add fonts? | |
| <cellofellow> !fonts | |
| <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto | |
| <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer | |
| <BlueLobster> yay it's working | |
| <cellofellow> what is? | |
| <JKnife> your face! | |
| <JKnife> BURN! | |
| * cellofellow says JKnife gets more immature every day. | |
| <JKnife> XD i do really | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: that's not a good thing | |
| <nante> hi | |
| <cellofellow> hi :) | |
| <nante> :p | |
| <nante> can i ask some for some instructions? | |
| <nante> ack | |
| <cellofellow> shoot :) | |
| <nante> i have a pc at home with xubuntu, i have no internet connection there, only here in school | |
| <nante> i want to install the games listed in the synaptic something | |
| <nante> how do i do that | |
| <cellofellow> uh... | |
| <cellofellow> get the dvd? | |
| <nante> i want to play abuse again, it was a fun abandon ware game i played before | |
| <nante> i want to copy the install packaged in a cd and install it at home if that is possible | |
| <nante> package* | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's entirely possible. Make sure you get the dependencies, too. | |
| <cellofellow> I think so. just aptitude download packagename | |
| <nante> how do i go about it, im kinda new to this stuff, only started last week | |
| * cellofellow surrenders to PuMpErNiCkLe | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can get them from archive.ubuntu.com | |
| <nante> ok, and how do i make sure that i get those dependencies that cellofellow mentioned? | |
| <cellofellow> nante: credit where it's due, that was PuMpErNiCkLe | |
| <nante> erm yeah, :p | |
| <nante> sorry | |
| <cellofellow> nante: when in archive.ubuntu.com, it should list package dependancies for you, copy them to the cd as well | |
| <nante> im in the archive directory now, where do i go? dist indices pool and project | |
| <cellofellow> try packages.ubuntu.com instead | |
| <nante> ok wait | |
| <ellioTb> what is the command to see if direct rendering works | |
| <ellioTb> i wanna see if i can play enemy territory on this laptop | |
| <ellioTb> but not even sure if the gfx card will do 3D | |
| <ellioTb> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.20GHz @ 1.20GHz] mem[Physical : 439MB, 58.1% free] disk[Total : 19.23GB, 75.90% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M] sound[] | |
| <ellioTb> thats the video card | |
| <cellofellow> ellioTb: sorry I don't know. | |
| <nante> i get an error in http://www.packages.ubuntu.com/ | |
| <nante> is that the right link? | |
| <cellofellow> nante: no www | |
| <cellofellow> would it be possible to use put all of your favorite packages on a DVD and make it into a source for apt? | |
| *** surge is now known as highvoltage2 | |
| <cellofellow> so as to example install the same software on a lot of computers or some software on offline computers? | |
| <nante> what is the code name for xubuntu 6.10? | |
| <cellofellow> edgy eft | |
| <nante> kk | |
| <nante> in the package page, what is the difference between edgy and edgy-backport? | |
| <cellofellow> just use edgy | |
| <nante> ok | |
| * cellofellow smiles | |
| <dope> hey buddies | |
| <dope> how do i watch embedded wmv files in firefox? | |
| <cellofellow> how do I get Xnest running? | |
| <cellofellow> so it opens gdm? | |
| <cellofellow> well, it openned but no gdm | |
| <cellofellow> hello? | |
| <cellofellow> Xnest :1 opens a blank x server i a window, but no gdm which is why it's open in the first place, to see gdm | |
| <rosen37> Hello ? I m trying xubuntu and I don t know how to load prog at the start session ( I add it info in the .xession) but it seems not loaded? | |
| <grumpymole> rosen37: have you tried starting the prog, then clicking the logout button in the top right hand corner, and selecting save session settings? | |
| <globe> hello all | |
| <grumpymole> rosen37: it depends on the prog, but for apps like gaim, it will start them the next time you log in | |
| <globe> fg | |
| <globe> fg | |
| <globe> bg 1 | |
| <globe> bg1 | |
| <xenator> good morning | |
| <Commander-Crowe> good morning xenator | |
| <xenator> someone installed xubuntu on a xbox? | |
| <xenator> ive tried xebian and i must say its not what i want :-/ | |
| <Commander-Crowe> try Fedora | |
| <Commander-Crowe> or look at linux.org and see what it has available | |
| <xenator> i couldnt even get a gcc working on my box, kinda funny :) | |
| <xenator> Commander-Crowe: you tried fedora on a xbox? | |
| <xenator> i dont need X, just want to use the box as a web-server etc. | |
| <Commander-Crowe> xenator no but on PS3 I did | |
| <xenator> oh youve got a PS3, nice | |
| <Commander-Crowe> no | |
| <Commander-Crowe> my friend does | |
| <xenator> i see. | |
| <phlasphy> hey all | |
| <rosen37> sorry I diseappeared , grumpymole : it is to add an ssh-add in the .xsession but it seems not loaded? | |
| <grumpymole> rosen37: you're running xubuntu edgy? have you looked at Applications --> Settings --> Autostarted Applications? | |
| <grumpymole> looks like you can add apps there | |
| <rosen37> grumpymole: Yes for the moment I did it like that | |
| <rosen37> grumpymole: But however I dont understand why .xsession is not loaded at start | |
| <Commander-Crowe> can someone do me a favor? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oh nevermind | |
| <maxamillion> ? ... oooook | |
| <grumpymole> rosen37: sorry, don't know about that off the top of my head. | |
| <Commander-Crowe> TEH | |
| <Commander-Crowe> anyone here? | |
| <crimsun> yep | |
| *** Commander-Crowe is now known as Cmndr|Tropico | |
| <phlasphy> hey all | |
| <phlasphy> hello | |
| <rosen37> grumpymole: I would like to install xubuntu on my company and I want that the ssh keys being asked for all users | |
| *** sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt | |
| *** Cmndr|Tropico is now known as Commander-Crowe | |
| <Commander-Crowe> eh screw it | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I'm not gonna make it | |
| <Commander-Crowe> in tribale wars that is | |
| <Commander-Crowe> tribal* | |
| <catalytic> is there a way to disable the alt+LMB drag | |
| <catalytic> its always moving windows, but i need that key/mouse combo for something else | |
| <catalytic> and how do i give a program rights to the TMP and SWAPFILE ? | |
| <Zeqfreed> tmp is always writable as i know | |
| <catalytic> ok, what about swap file? | |
| <Zeqfreed> no idea, why do you need to write in it? | |
| <catalytic> Error: default temp directory /usr/tmp does not have write permissions. | |
| <Zeqfreed> what are you trying to do? | |
| <catalytic> stuff | |
| <Zeqfreed> i have no idea about the stuff then | |
| <Zeqfreed> i have a usb printer with card-reader. how do i mount the flash card inserted into that card-reader? | |
| <Zeqfreed> when i power the printer on only sda is added into /dev | |
| <catalytic> zeqfreed | |
| <catalytic> when u hold down alt, and drag with the left mouse button | |
| <catalytic> does it move ur windows? | |
| <catalytic> and is there a way to disable it? | |
| <Zeqfreed> yup | |
| <catalytic> yup yup? | |
| <catalytic> or yup nup | |
| <catalytic> or yup dunno? | |
| <Zeqfreed> yup it moves my windows | |
| <catalytic> its annoying | |
| <Zeqfreed> i don't know how to disable it | |
| <Zeqfreed> but there should be a way | |
| <catalytic> its driving me boonta | |
| <catalytic> bingo | |
| <catalytic> found it | |
| <catalytic> xfce settings, window manager, under the Accessibility tab, key used to grab and move windows | |
| <Zeqfreed> congrats | |
| <Zeqfreed> now help me :) | |
| <rosen37> How to start a prog for all user session? | |
| <rosen37> I want to add a ssh add in the start session of each user | |
| <Zeqfreed> ahh, weird problem | |
| <Zeqfreed> damn damn damn | |
| <Zeqfreed> stupid card-reader :( | |
| * Zeqfreed needs help | |
| <Zeqfreed> where are all the gurus :) | |
| <TheSheep> http://dev.tufuncion.com/bigger-penises-linux | |
| <Zeqfreed> suspicios url | |
| <Zeqfreed> lol | |
| <bdgraue> *rotfl* | |
| * Zeqfreed can't find the code which reads and writes mp3 tags in xmms2 sources :( | |
| * Zeqfreed also can't mount sd-flash card | |
| <Teejay__> question here any programs like ms powerpoint apart from open office presentation, which I can install? | |
| <Zeqfreed> what's wrong with OO? | |
| <IlTorto> hi all :) | |
| <Teejay__> I just like something faster | |
| <Zeqfreed> hi, IlTorto | |
| <Teejay__> like abiword or gnumeric | |
| <IlTorto> i have a little problem with dvds | |
| <IlTorto> i can't see them well with xine, but dma is on... | |
| <Zeqfreed> Teejay__: look at this http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/LinuxPresentations.html | |
| <Teejay__> thank you | |
| <Zeqfreed> and this: http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=44 | |
| <Zeqfreed> huh | |
| <IlTorto> help me please! xD | |
| <TheSheep> !ask | |
| <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | |
| * Zeqfreed feels damn stupid after looking through the xmms2 source code | |
| <Zeqfreed> it's so complicated | |
| <IlTorto> but someone can see the dvd with Xubuntu??? | |
| <Zeqfreed> i can :) | |
| <icheyne> !dvd | |
| <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | |
| <Zeqfreed> actually not the dvd itself but .vob files | |
| <IlTorto> mhm i try with kaffeine, xine, mediaplayer, vlc and xmms | |
| <IlTorto> noothing :( | |
| <IlTorto> my problem is not "how to playing dvd" but "how to playing dvd well, without springs... | |
| <icheyne> IlTorto, how fast is your machine? | |
| <IlTorto> icheyne with win or ubuntu i saw the dvd correctly | |
| <icheyne> IlTorto, oh right - sorry but I'm no expert | |
| <IlTorto> ok thx same, maybe someone can help me 'cause i am desperate! xD | |
| <Zeqfreed> hmm.. id3v2 xmms2 plugin uses function convert_id3_text and i cannot find it anywhere :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: grep | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: but it's probably somewhere in included libraries | |
| <Zeqfreed> i don't think that glib or stdlib can contain this function | |
| <Zeqfreed> and this: find ./ -type f -exec grep -H convert_id3 '{}' \; finds nothing :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: ever heard of grep -R :) | |
| <Zeqfreed> nope, i like find :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: look at #includes | |
| <Zeqfreed> already did | |
| <Zeqfreed> all include files except glib, string, stdlib and stdio are in nested folders so they were greped | |
| <Zeqfreed> it's obvious that i'm missing something but i can't figure out what is it | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: I'm almost sure xmms2 depends on some id3 library | |
| <Zeqfreed> i don't think so. all the code which reads tags is in the sources. this is the only function i can't find and it concerns text convertion not working with tags | |
| <Zeqfreed> oops | |
| <Zeqfreed> i'm a stupid moron | |
| <Zeqfreed> i did find it.. | |
| <IlTorto> if i try on mplayer error opening/initialiting the selected video_out (-vo) device | |
| <TheSheep> IlTorto: change your output device to something supported by your video card | |
| <IlTorto> TheSheep i don't know wivh i have to try | |
| <TheSheep> mplayer -vo help | |
| <TheSheep> there are only a few | |
| <IlTorto> ok, i am trying | |
| <TheSheep> read mplayer's manual for details | |
| <TheSheep> xv should work | |
| <IlTorto> x11/xv ? | |
| <atarinox> is there another site for help with customizing xfce besides xfce-look.org? ...or at least a place where i can see some screens...my xfce looks extremely mediocre, and the only thing i can find info about customizing is window themes/icons | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> atarinox: What else do you want to customize? | |
| <TheSheep> maybe we could put some samples of 'interesting' layouts on xubuntu.org :) | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> I had one awhile back that looked a bit like BeOS, but I got rid of it. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> If I can set it up again, I'll take a screenshot. | |
| <atarinox> i'd like some more interesting panels maybe...i can't seem to customize any further than position and two sizes... | |
| <TheSheep> atarinox: you can add more panels :) | |
| <TheSheep> atarinox: what do you mena by 'interesting panels'? just add some interesting items to them | |
| <TheSheep> the panels themselves are supposed to be boring | |
| <atarinox> if i sent you a screen of my desktop you'd cringe | |
| <atarinox> as i do every time i login | |
| <atarinox> i added a top and bottom panel....but how do i change their color or transparency? or the panel altogether? | |
| <atarinox> and how do i stretch them to a certain size? | |
| <Zeqfreed> GREAT | |
| <Zeqfreed> i've "fixed" xmms2 | |
| <Zeqfreed> changed the default encoding from ISO8859-1 to CP1251 B) | |
| <Zeqfreed> now i can see russian tags | |
| <Zeqfreed> that's really cool | |
| <Zeqfreed> since now xmms2 is much better than mpd, lol :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: woudn't utf-8 be better? XD | |
| <TheSheep> atarinox: in the gtk theme, of course | |
| <TheSheep> atarinox: as for the size, they always stretch to accomodate all the items in them | |
| <atarinox> TheSheep: under settings>window manage settings>themes?....just seems to change my window themes, not the panels | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: i have a lot of mp3 files with cp1251-encoded tags | |
| <TheSheep> atarinox: no, settings→user interface→themes | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: just convert them to a sane encoding | |
| <Zeqfreed> and i will have to convert every new file then | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: no, just create them with the right encoding right away | |
| <Zeqfreed> i don't create them, i download them :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: ok, so the way you do it now, you will never come up with a sane standard and you will always have to hack programs | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: btw, isn't there a way to tell the encoding of id3 tags? | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: afaik, no way | |
| <Zeqfreed> the spec. says it must be either ISO8859-1, UTF-8 or UTF-16 | |
| <TheSheep> so follow the spec | |
| <Zeqfreed> so i think UTF-8 would be the best | |
| <Zeqfreed> any suggestions of a recoding tool? | |
| <ochosi> hi, i'm using mail-notification 2.0 in edgy and i can't use the "mail-reader" feature because it tries to open evolution (although i don't have it installed). any ideas how to change that to thunderbird? (btw in my preferred apps there's of course thunderbird for email) | |
| <TheSheep> ochosi: settings->preffered applications | |
| <TheSheep> ah, sorry | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, hihi | |
| <TheSheep> gnome-preffered-applications, I guess | |
| <Flosoft> hey | |
| <TheSheep> hello Flosoft | |
| <Flosoft> I plugged in an USB Wifi Stick, it is recognised, but how do I configure an WiFi network without encryption? | |
| <Flosoft> I tried using Settings > Networks, but that didn't work | |
| <Flosoft> and I would like it to connect before logging in | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, hm. don't seem to have anything like gnome-preferred-applications but i'm gonna have a look around | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, sorry, couldn't find anything like that | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, only exo-preferred-applications | |
| <TheSheep> ochosi: that's the one from the menu | |
| <TheSheep> but seems that mail-notification uses either the gnome's settings or has evolution hardcoded | |
| <TheSheep> ochosi: why not use the Mail Watcher panel plugin? | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, hardcoded would be strange, never read about it | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, used that one before, but i prefer the icon just to appear when it's needed | |
| <TheSheep> ochosi: you could try update-alternatives | |
| <TheSheep> ochosi: and set the mail reader to Thunderbird there | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep, sorry, don't really understand what that is | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep i mean i read the help | |
| <ochosi> TheSheep ok, np i'll quickly read the man | |
| <Caraibes> I am a happy Xub'Dapper user (on my laptop...) I was wondering if any of you sticked to Dapper, or did you all upgraded to Edgy ? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Edgy, ofc. | |
| <Caraibes> ok | |
| <Caraibes> I am thinking of upgrading... | |
| <globe> hello | |
| <Caraibes> :) | |
| <darrend_laptop> anyone else have a problem with missing icons (system tray icons) in edgy? | |
| <darrend_laptop> bt-applet and tomboy are 2 that don't display their systray icons properly at least | |
| <Malnilion> Nope, I'm just having problems getting wireless networking working. | |
| <globe> Malnilion: what is your wireless not doing? | |
| <Malnilion> Well, erm, connecting I suppose. It scans devices just fine, it just won't connect. | |
| <Malnilion> Right now I'm looking at a guide that *might* solve my problem | |
| <globe> it doesn't connect to the ap at all, or you cant get to the internet? | |
| <Malnilion> No connection to the ap | |
| <Malnilion> I'm about to obliterate my network settings and start from scratch. | |
| <globe> have you tried dissabling all of the security encryption/ssid hiding, ect? | |
| <Malnilion> globe, that shouldn't be a problem, it works in windoze | |
| <Malnilion> But anyway, all I have is a WEP key. | |
| <globe> I guess my mentality is start simple, then work into complexity ;-) | |
| <Malnilion> Yeah, true | |
| <globe> are you using the applet to connect, or a term window? | |
| <Malnilion> I'm about to start f*cking with stuff :D | |
| <Malnilion> I've tried both. | |
| <Malnilion> This is kind of gay. | |
| <Malnilion> I think I'm actually connected to the access point, but it's not working properly. | |
| <globe> what makes you think that you are connected? | |
| <Malnilion> I think that's what the output of iwconfig/ifconfig is saying. | |
| <globe> do you have an ip address from the ap? | |
| <Malnilion> Unfortunately, no. | |
| <Malnilion> Welp, I give up for now. | |
| <Malnilion> I've gotta go | |
| <globe> Malnilion: try dhclient...good luck | |
| <Storkme> whenever i try to log in i get a message 'unable to initialize HAL' :\ | |
| *** globe is now known as globe_brb_foodti | |
| *** bdgraue_ is now known as bdgraue | |
| <Zeqfreed> no one wanna help me? :) | |
| <fredJones840> deadcandance .. theyre a pretty cool group | |
| <Zeqfreed> there are a lot of pretty cool bands | |
| <fredJones840> fosho | |
| <globe> anybody in here know how to display a screensaver as my background in xfce? | |
| <Zeqfreed> as a desktop background? | |
| <globe> Zeqfreed: or on top of background....I saw it in a youtube video. | |
| <TheSheep> globe: you mean the glgears? | |
| <globe> TheSheep: nope, this was the glmatrix screensaver ontop of the desktop background | |
| <TheSheep> globe: they have a --root option | |
| <globe> TheSheep: yea, I know it has something to do with that, but I think I have to (somehow) have xfce let go of the desktop. | |
| <Zeqfreed> i have a usb printer with card-reader, when i power it on with the card inserted dmesg reports i/o errors about sda1 which is the card itself. what's the problem can be? | |
| <Zeqfreed> and fdisk -l lists sda1 device but it's not in /dev | |
| <TheSheep> globe: there is an option in the desktop settings | |
| <globe> TheSheep: "let xfce manage desktop" or simmilar? I tried that checkbox. | |
| * Zeqfreed yawns | |
| <fredJones840> ja | |
| <fredJones840> ubuntu installer = slow | |
| <Zeqfreed> my life = boring | |
| <fredJones840> hehe | |
| <Zeqfreed> :-P | |
| <fredJones840> theres a lot more discussion an shite in #ubuntu | |
| <Zeqfreed> #ubuntu misses the key thing. the x letter | |
| <globe> always is...this is a pretty chill chanel... | |
| <fredJones840> haha .. so y do u like xubuntu over ubuntu? | |
| <Zeqfreed> i've never seen what #ubuntu is. i can't judge | |
| <fredJones840> i c | |
| <TheSheep> crowdeed | |
| <globe> #ubuntu is crowded. | |
| <wayne> i hate crowded channels | |
| <Zeqfreed> no one has any ideas about my problem? i really need to copy files from the damn card and i don't want to boot windows to do it | |
| <fredJones840> ah | |
| <fredJones840> what the problem is? | |
| <Zeqfreed> it's described few lines above | |
| <Zeqfreed> look for printer, card-reader and i\o errors | |
| * Zeqfreed gives up | |
| <fredJones840> damn .. someone just offed a ps3 for $9.99 | |
| <globe> ?! | |
| <fredJones840> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280050635902&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=280050635902&fvi=1 | |
| <fredJones840> shippin is $50 but even still .. a $60 ps3 | |
| <globe> heh...shipping ....right you just said that | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> yeh | |
| <globe> the bidll go up... | |
| <fredJones840> no the bidding ended for that item | |
| <fredJones840> the winning bid was the $9.99 | |
| <fredJones840> Winning bid:US $9.99 | |
| <globe> ! | |
| <Zeqfreed> ? | |
| <globe> I didn't notice. | |
| <globe> how in the crap did that person forget to set a minimum bid? | |
| <fredJones840> haha not that too very bright | |
| <globe> and even more, how did that thing go unnoticed in there? | |
| <globe> I wish i'd seen it! | |
| <fredJones840> thats what im saying | |
| <fredJones840> id gladly pay the $50 s & h if the whole thing was only going to be $60 shite yea | |
| <globe> seriously | |
| <fredJones840> have you guys seen this LinuxMint? | |
| <globe> .....? | |
| <fredJones840> http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/download.html | |
| <globe> hmm. | |
| <fredJones840> ja .. im going to give barbara a try | |
| <globe> what is the "big benefit" ? that it can come with all the non-free? | |
| <fredJones840> dunno .. havent got into it at all .. still dling | |
| <fredJones840> just ran acrossed it today | |
| <globe> It sounds like its just ubuntu with different graphics and default packages for synaptic | |
| <fredJones840> yea it says its 98% ubuntu with a few differences | |
| <TheSheep> and the most important: different name! | |
| <fredJones840> heh | |
| <slow-motion> hallo | |
| <cellofellow> hi | |
| <TheSheep> ohayo | |
| <slow-motion> nervt niht, ich mach hausaufgaben | |
| <slow-motion> +c | |
| *** darren1 is now known as darrend | |
| <TheSheep> hausaufgaben? | |
| <Zeqfreed> davaite luchshe po-russki? | |
| <Zeqfreed> :-P | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: cxemu nie w slovio? | |
| <Zeqfreed> i do not understand even a word :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: dlacxego nie v slovio? | |
| <Zeqfreed> hm.. | |
| <Zeqfreed> still can't understand | |
| <Zeqfreed> i'd better give up trying :) | |
| <Zeqfreed> err | |
| <Zeqfreed> you'd | |
| <TheSheep> gmmm... | |
| * Zeqfreed enjoys the silence | |
| <fredJones8400> hmm . timeout ghost jones | |
| <globe> is there a way to make beryl rotate on left + right click? | |
| *** fredJones8400 is now known as fredJones840 | |
| <Zeqfreed> somebody's just divided fredJones by 10 | |
| <cellofellow> !beryl | globe | |
| <ubotu> globe: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl | |
| <wayne> Zeqfreed: we're find as long as there's no remainder! | |
| <fredJones840> haha fosho | |
| <wayne> s/find/fine | |
| <Zeqfreed> :) | |
| <globe> ...somebody did ? | |
| *** fredJones840 is now known as fredJones8400 | |
| <globe> beryl-proj forum search 404d | |
| *** fredJones8400 is now known as fredJones840 | |
| <cellofellow> globe: try #ubuntu-xgl, please. I know nothing about beryl. | |
| <fredJones840> there we go | |
| <darrend> what repos do I need in sources.list to install sun-jdk's? | |
| <globe> ooh...I didn't know about that chan. thx | |
| <fredJones840> heh | |
| <cellofellow> multiverse and restricted I think. The ones in the repos aren't the GPL'd ones. | |
| <cellofellow> darrend: ^^^^^^^^^ | |
| <darrend> cellofellow: thx - I had restricted but not multiverse. | |
| <cellofellow> :-) | |
| <darrend> got it now. | |
| <cellofellow> they should be in main or universe for Feisty now that it's GPL. | |
| <Zeqfreed> !feisty | |
| <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1 | |
| <cellofellow> Zeqfreed: why ask ubotu about that? | |
| <Zeqfreed> cellofellow: to learn what the feisty is | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <cellofellow> I think Novell will get in trouble cause Mormons are too trusting. Not that all of Novell is mormon, but a good bit of them are. | |
| * cellofellow is mormon | |
| * Zeqfreed is not a mormon but moron | |
| <cellofellow> oh ha ha ha | |
| * Zeqfreed sleeps at programming classes at the university because they are sooo boring. he wants some real programming | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: don't worry, most programmers are paranoid | |
| <cellofellow> lots of mormons get sucked into multilevel marketing schemes. | |
| <cellofellow> Zeqfreed: I'll get mugwump going. | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: bring a laptop and program during lectures ;) | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: not a bad idea, but actually i have nothing to program :( | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: that can be easily remedied :D | |
| <Zeqfreed> cellofellow: what's mugwump? | |
| <cellofellow> Zeqfreed: that game. The one i sad was spiders, I changed it back to a mugwump | |
| <Zeqfreed> how? | |
| <Zeqfreed> cellofellow: ah, i see | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: for example, there is a need for a tournament server for netris, for example | |
| <TheSheep> - one for example | |
| <TheSheep> pick any | |
| <cellofellow> Zeqfreed: yeah, get into OSS development. | |
| <fredJones840> ja .. theres projects all over the place | |
| <TheSheep> there are lots of projects needening codemonkeys | |
| <fredJones840> fosho | |
| <TheSheep> they pay in codebananas | |
| <Zeqfreed> lol | |
| <TheSheep> fredJones840: bless you | |
| <fredJones840> haha how convenient | |
| <Zeqfreed> do they taste good? | |
| <fredJones840> bless me? i am not of religious preference | |
| <TheSheep> fredJones840: sorry, thought you sneezed | |
| <fredJones840> heheh | |
| <cellofellow> lol | |
| <fredJones840> damn i cant wait to get this slow ass comp cleaned up and running sum *nix | |
| <cellofellow> how slow? | |
| <TheSheep> _@v _@v | |
| <fredJones840> way too slow for how not that old it is | |
| <fredJones840> haha yea that made | |
| <fredJones840> too slow for what it is | |
| * TheSheep can't wait until Vista comes out and he will be able to cheaply buy all the 'old' computers from the offices | |
| <Zeqfreed> lol | |
| <fredJones840> haha | |
| <omar> hello, I had a problem while installing xubuntu in my old laptop | |
| <omar> it freezes at 65% | |
| <slow-motion> n8 | |
| <omar> Configuring anthy | |
| <fredJones840> mine was doing the same thing | |
| <TheSheep> omar: you have low ram and you're using livecd, right? | |
| <omar> yes, the (6.10) alternate CD, ram 64 | |
| <omar> install in OEM mode | |
| <TheSheep> ah, alternate cd should be ok | |
| <omar> I don't know what's te problem | |
| <TheSheep> omar: it probably donloads new packages from the net :/ | |
| <TheSheep> downloads | |
| <omar> now I'm in SELECT AND INSTALL SOFTWARE step | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: was reading the backlog and the old non-vista computers sound great! :) | |
| <omar> no, it isn't connected to any network device | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: sure, they do it fo us! | |
| <TheSheep> omar: maybe that's why it's taking so long %) | |
| <TheSheep> just kidding | |
| <omar> what should I do then ? | |
| <TheSheep> omar: you're sure it freezes? | |
| <TheSheep> omar: no disk activity, no messages in the log, etc? | |
| <omar> yes, it's more than 20 minutes at 65% | |
| <omar> noting but the blue install screen | |
| <TheSheep> fredJones840: how did it end in your case? | |
| <omar> any idea ? | |
| <TheSheep> nope, anthy does take a some time to install | |
| <TheSheep> and there were people reporting problems with it before | |
| <fredJones840> it hasnt yet .. still ahvent figured it out | |
| <TheSheep> omar: you might try installing without the language packs, and install them later from the running system | |
| <fredJones840> so im installing an older version | |
| <omar> oh please | |
| <fredJones840> 5.04 ubuntu .. the xubuntu freoze at the disk partition step | |
| <[A]-ArthurBrazil> is there a way to upgrade from ubuntu server to xubunut 6.10? | |
| <omar> I had to wait for an hour to begin installing, my laptop is very old and slow | |
| <omar> ok | |
| <TheSheep> [A]-ArthurBrazil: install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <[A]-ArthurBrazil> kk thanks | |
| <omar> what are the differences between INSTALL IN OEM MODE and INSTALL IN TEXT MODE | |
| <omar> ? | |
| <omar> I chose the first one | |
| <cellofellow> omar: oem will mess up your passwords when you first log in. | |
| <fredJones840> goodbye old harddisk . heh love it | |
| <cellofellow> s far as I can tell that's happened a lot. | |
| <fredJones840> yea all i could think for the xubuntu is that it was a corrupted image .. | |
| <TheSheep> omar: oem mode is for installing on computers to be sold -- it is suuposed to ask for username and password and some config details at first startup | |
| <fredJones840> or the comp that im installing it on just sucks that bad | |
| <omar> so should I try TEXT MODE isntall method? | |
| <TheSheep> well, edgy's installer is pretty buggy | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: do you know any utility which can help me to recode tags in my mp3s? | |
| <TheSheep> omar: won't hurt | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: thunar's bulk rename | |
| <omar> thanks a lot | |
| <fredJones840> yea thats what ive been hearing | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: ex-falso | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: cowbell | |
| <omar> i really appreciate it | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: easytags | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: not that fast please, i'm writing these down | |
| <fredJones840> heh | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: actually you can edit file's id3 tags by right'clicking in thunar and selecting properties | |
| <TheSheep> fredJones840: another option is doing a server install and then installing xubuntu-desktop on the running system | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: all hundreds of files? no thanks :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: didn't you just complain you're bored? ;) | |
| <fredJones840> haha | |
| <Zeqfreed> not that bored :) | |
| <fredJones840> good idea TheSheep | |
| <[A]-ArthurBrazil> gah, im having a problem installing, ar partion "Error informing the kernal about modifications to partition /dev/hda1" | |
| <TheSheep> weird | |
| <cellofellow> Hmm, I've been thinking. If I could get a firewire harddrive, and use to create an image of my mom's lappy hdd, I could install xubuntu on it and still have a nice backup. | |
| <Zeqfreed> so.. thunar's bulk rename and ex-falco can't change the encoding of tags | |
| <TheSheep> :( | |
| <Zeqfreed> easytags.. i can't find it | |
| <cellofellow> How well does firewire work in linux? | |
| <Zeqfreed> and cowbell requires too much stuff to give it a try | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: well, those are the id3 tag editors I ever tried | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: very well, I've seen those guys getting server's root password in 10s by connecting a modified ipod through firewire to id | |
| <TheSheep> to id | |
| <TheSheep> to it | |
| <TheSheep> * | |
| <TheSheep> grr | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: maybe i can write a plugin for ex-falso or maybe it is already written | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: or write a perl one-liner | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: what was that about the root password firewire hack? | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: well, firewire uses dma... | |
| *** cellofel1ow is now known as cellofellow | |
| <cellofellow> got disconnected | |
| <pae> hello | |
| <TheSheep> hi pae | |
| <pae> I am probably going to try xubuntu so I have a question: is xubuntu only ubuntu without gnome, or are other packages rebuilt? | |
| <TheSheep> pae: it uses the same repositories, but different default set of packages -- in particular, all gnome dependecies are removes | |
| <TheSheep> removed | |
| <fredJones840> well there we go .. heh got woody reinstalled | |
| <cellofellow> woody? yeeks. | |
| <TheSheep> pae: but it's possible to have both ubuntu and xubuntu on the same system | |
| <pae> TheSheep: that's what I wanted to know, thanks | |
| <pae> so the only difference is in the set of packages? | |
| <TheSheep> yes | |
| <pae> ok | |
| <pae> ok, I have one more question | |
| <cellofellow> fredJones840: I have a sarge server and I thought that was old. | |
| <pae> does xubuntu come with a simple gui for limiting download/upload bandwidth? | |
| <cellofellow> no | |
| <cellofellow> :( | |
| <fredJones840> haha nice | |
| <cellofellow> pae: xubuntu is kind of short on gui config programs. | |
| <cellofellow> pae: it's just how XFCE is. | |
| <pae> yes, I'm an xfce user :) | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| <pae> but does it come with a way to easily limit bandwidth consumption? | |
| <pae> without need to download some esoteric programs? | |
| <cellofellow> pae: be warned, xubuntu looks like gnome and not a normal xfce. | |
| <cellofellow> pae: cli and config files yes, I suppose. | |
| <pae> aha | |
| <[A]-ArthurBrazil> im thinking of going xgl | |
| <[A]-ArthurBrazil> anyone tried it? | |
| <cellofellow> maxamillion has, but he's not here. | |
| <cellofellow> i think | |
| <cellofellow> !seen maxamillion | |
| <ubotu> I last saw maxamillion (n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 13h 44m 16s ago, quiting: "leaving" | |
| <pae> well, I don't care about the looks, I won't be using it much | |
| <cellofellow> pae: same here. | |
| <fredJones840> have not | |
| <pae> but it can be customised as xfce on any other distribution? | |
| <TheSheep> pae: I suppose you limit bandwidth the same way you'd do it on ubuntu or debian | |
| <cellofellow> pae: yeah. | |
| <TheSheep> pae: no idea how though, there is no gui for that for sure | |
| <pae> :) | |
| <pae> well, thanks for the info guys | |
| <TheSheep> pae: shold be a howto somewhare on the forums | |
| <pae> I'll look, thanks | |
| <pae> bye | |
| <pae> :) | |
| <cellofellow> ok, I'm a little confused. ide devices show up as hd* in /dev/, and scsi shows as sd*. what does sata show as? | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: sd* | |
| <cellofellow> oh, ok | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: and usb drives also | |
| <cellofellow> I knew that usb did, but I thought that the system treated usb like scsi. I was wrong I guess. | |
| <TheSheep> I'm not sure how it works internally | |
| <cellofellow> What stats will a really good sub-$850 PC have? Preferably Intel Core Duo. | |
| <omar> hello again | |
| <cellofellow> omar: hello | |
| <omar> I found a solution, but unfortunately it doesn't work for me | |
| <omar> look here | |
| <omar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=6f760b4ba6b2fa1aa41ca5e28e3d5561&p=1750018&postcount=8 | |
| <omar> it gave me "illegal number: 1" error message after typing kill command | |
| <TheSheep> omar: what pid did you use? | |
| <omar> pip ? | |
| <omar> ah, pid | |
| <TheSheep> omar: when you typed 'ps' it showed you a list of processes | |
| <omar> 22143 | |
| <omar> then I tried 23752 | |
| <TheSheep> XD | |
| <omar> what ? :) | |
| <TheSheep> and what PID does mkworddic has according to ps? | |
| <omar> i'm not sure | |
| <omar> i'll copy the last two lines | |
| <omar> 22143 root 23752 D /usr/bin/mkworddic -f /etc/anthy/dict.args | |
| <omar> 22363 root 556 R ps | |
| <omar> these are the last two lines | |
| <TheSheep> ok, and the command 'kill -9 22143' didn't work? | |
| <omar> now it doesn't give me any error message | |
| <omar> wow | |
| <omar> it works | |
| <omar> :D | |
| <TheSheep> must have been some typo | |
| <omar> yes | |
| <omar> it was a typing mistake | |
| <omar> thanks a lot | |
| <TheSheep> omar: thanks for the solution, we will be able to help people who come here after you :) | |
| <omar> you're welcome | |
| <omar> can I ask you one more thing ? | |
| <TheSheep> always | |
| <omar> I already installed Ubuntu (Edgy), I had to install some codecs and stuffs, you know | |
| <TheSheep> yes, the non-free things | |
| <omar> Shall I do the same for Xubuntu | |
| <omar> ? | |
| <omar> yes | |
| <TheSheep> unfortunatelly yes, they cannot be installed by default because of licences and laws and stuff | |
| <TheSheep> stupid complications | |
| <globe> anybody know how to get a pm to go away in irssi? | |
| <TheSheep> globe: /wc | |
| <omar> is there any difference in commands or respos ? | |
| <TheSheep> omar: no | |
| <globe> TheSheep: thx | |
| <TheSheep> omar: well, there is no gstreamer by default, just xine | |
| <omar> it's ok | |
| <omar> as long as they work well on my old laptop | |
| <Zeqfreed> is there a way to make grep return only a part of matching substring? | |
| <Zeqfreed> i mean something like "blabla(.*)blabla" and it should return only the part which is in the brackets | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: no, but you can use egrep and form the regexp so that only a part is matched | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: like (?<=blabla).*(?=blabla) | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: i can't figure out how to form such a regexp | |
| <Zeqfreed> hm.. | |
| <Zeqfreed> let me try | |
| <TheSheep> .oO( not sure if grep supports the lookback and lookahead patterns ) | |
| <Zeqfreed> i'm trying to get id3v2 sources and apt-get fails with E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/cipherfunk.org_pub_packages_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) | |
| <Zeqfreed> what the problem is | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: df -h | |
| <Zeqfreed> what do you mean? | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: how can df -h help me? :) | |
| <TheSheep> Zeqfreed: can suggest you a solution ;) | |
| <Zeqfreed> TheSheep: no idea.. i have enough free space | |
| <Zeqfreed> oh, it's a sleep time :) | |
| * Zeqfreed slips away | |
| <jozuph> is it possible to install (x)ubuntu cmd line? | |
| <jozuph> i'm doing an install on a server without a proper monitor | |
| <hyper_ch> !nVidia | |
| <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | |
| <hyper_ch> who is responsible for the bot in here? | |
| <TheSheep> jozuph: alternate cd | |
| <jozuph> damn, dl'ed the wrong 1 ;) | |
| <jozuph> thnx | |
| <TheSheep> hyper_ch: afaik saveas | |
| <TheSheep> hyper_ch: why? | |
| <hyper_ch> would like to get one for the german kubuntu channel :) | |
| <cellofellow> What socket is an Intel Core Duo? | |
| <cellofellow> Answer: M | |
| <cellofellow> la la la la | |
| <ArthurBrazil> fogot the command to install xubuntu over ubuntu server | |
| <ArthurBrazil> anyone :) | |
| <TheSheep> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <cellofellow> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: ya beat me | |
| <ArthurBrazil> sweet thanks | |
| <omar> hi | |
| <omar> the installation has been finished succefully | |
| <omar> :) | |
| <TheSheep> congrats :) | |
| <omar> thanks a lot | |
| <TheSheep> omar: what next? world domination? ;) | |
| <omar> I have to know some basics :) | |
| <omar> for example : where is the file manager ? | |
| <TheSheep> system→Thunar File Manager | |
| <TheSheep> but it's simplier to just click on any folder icon | |
| <omar> thanks. How can I change the language from English to French for all the old users and the future users ? | |
| <TheSheep> not sure how do you do for old ones, but for new, system→language settings | |
| <omar> how can I change the keyboard layouts ? | |
| <TheSheep> omar: there should be a panel plugin for that | |
| <omar> yeah | |
| <omar> I read about it yesterday | |
| * TheSheep takes notes of the questions to put them into Welcome Centre later | |
| <omar> :) | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: how's that comming? | |
| <omar> are you the moderator for this channel ? | |
| <omar> of this * | |
| <TheSheep> omar: no | |
| <TheSheep> omar: actually I'm just a normal user | |
| <omar> it's ok | |
| <TheSheep> omar: it's a wiki, anyone can add content, you know | |
| <omar> :) | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: aren't you ops? | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: no | |
| <omar> aaaah | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: so how is the Welcome Center project comeing? | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: software is practically finished (but untested), we need content now, but almost nothing new is added | |
| <omar> i'll be back (i'm going to install the modem driver) | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: this edit is first since several days | |
| <TheSheep> omar: you can also change the keyboard layout in your xorg.conf | |
| <TheSheep> bah | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: lol, you bahhed like a sheep. | |
| <cellofellow> Will XGL run on an Intel 950 integrated GPU? | |
| <cellofellow> Or do I need a real nvidia card? | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: see topic | |
| <cellofellow> TheSheep: sorry. | |
| <cellofellow> ^_^ | |
| <TheSheep> :) | |
| <Surghi> hi | |
| <TheSheep> hi Surghi | |
| <Surghi> is there anyone of you who has ONLY installed XFCE ? | |
| <Surghi> without *any* kde and without any gnome? | |
| <cellofellow> count me out :( | |
| <TheSheep> Surghi: why? | |
| <Surghi> TheSheep, because I want to check some package dependencies | |
| <TheSheep> Surghi: can't you just look at the dependencies? | |
| <Surghi> no because I have KDE and Gnome installed | |
| <TheSheep> so what, the package dependencies will still show, no? | |
| <cellofellow> Surghi: you can still look at the dependancies. In aptitude, just select the package and press d. | |
| <TheSheep> or type apt-cache show the-name-of-the-package | |
| <Surghi> cellofellow, I know about that, but there are hundret of packages I already installed byside of KDE and gnome | |
| <Surghi> so I wanted to know what the rea dependencies are | |
| <Surghi> on a system without gnome and kde | |
| <TheSheep> still noone answered :/ | |
| <TheSheep> Surghi: you might check the livecd | |
| <Surghi> can I change the look of the panel (taskbar) in XFCE anyhow? | |
| <Surghi> the minimized windows should appear as in KDE | |
| <Surghi> at the moment, they are big icon like things | |
| <cellofellow> you using the iconbox or the taskbar? | |
| <Surghi> no clue, every minimized window looks like an icon | |
| <cellofellow> right click next to one of the icons and click properties. | |
| <Surghi> it says "icon box" | |
| <cellofellow> well, remove the Icon Box and put on the task list instead. | |
| <Surghi> how? | |
| <Surghi> whats its name? | |
| <cellofellow> well, right click and choose add an item, and then add the task list. | |
| <Surghi> great | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <Surghi> thank you very much :) | |
| <Surghi> where can I make the whole taskbar smaller? | |
| <Surghi> talking about its height | |
| *** apokryphos- is now known as apokryphos | |
| <cellofellow> right click and choose customize panel, move the size slider. Easy ;) | |
| <Surghi> found it :) | |
| <Surghi> good now there are only 3 things remaining until I can switch to XFCE | |
| <cellofellow> ... | |
| <Surghi> 1) time + clock ... there is only a clock | |
| <Surghi> I wanted it to look like in KDE | |
| <Surghi> time and date in the european format | |
| <cellofellow> remove the clock and add the orage clock | |
| <cellofellow> it's included. | |
| <Surghi> you cannot get the european format | |
| <Surghi> DD.MM.YYYY | |
| <cellofellow> not even in orage? | |
| <Surghi> nope | |
| <cellofellow> try Applications => Settings -> Settings Manager ->Orage | |
| <Surghi> nope | |
| <cellofellow> :( | |
| <Surghi> how would you remove the orage clock? | |
| <Surghi> right click does not make anything happen | |
| <cellofellow> right click near the edge of it. | |
| <Surghi> nope | |
| <Surghi> no chance | |
| <Surghi> are there any alternative taskbars? | |
| <cellofellow> :( | |
| <cellofellow> wouldn't use them even if there were. | |
| <Surghi> I do not want to start "kicker" - the panel from KDE - because it loads a lot sources from KDE | |
| <cellofellow> uh huh. | |
| <cellofellow> right clicking orage clock works here | |
| <kalikiana> A question: Is it normal that Abiword in Edgy won't import OpenDocument files? | |
| <Surghi> cellofellow, and the other question was: Is there a good replacement for kwrite? | |
| <Surghi> mousepad does not do syntax highlighting | |
| <Qew> vim... but that'd involve the console ;) | |
| <cellofellow> Surghi: scite | |
| <Surghi> Qew, one you can click in | |
| <Qew> meh... that's no benefit | |
| <Surghi> thank you cellofellow | |
| <atarinox_> seems like there're all sorts of bugs with the default xfce w/ xubuntu edgy | |
| <cellofellow> atarinox_: it's a beta | |
| <atarinox_> but i heard there's a stable version out | |
| <atarinox_> 1.0 | |
| <Surghi> is it more stable in edgy elft? | |
| <Surghi> oh you talked about edgy | |
| <Surghi> sorry | |
| <cellofellow> atarinox_: no, it's 4.4beta2 that's in edgy, and the newest is 4.4rc2 | |
| <Surghi> I am on dapper and its also not stable | |
| <atarinox_> cellofellow: ah | |
| <cellofellow> Surghi: dapper is beta1 | |
| <atarinox_> what's the diff between the beta that comes w/ xubuntu and xfce4-svn? | |
| <Qew> Xfce in Dapper seems fine. There is a memory leak issue if you don't log out for three or more days, but other than that, it seems fine. | |
| <cellofellow> atarinox_: xfce4-svn? enlighten me. | |
| <Qew> mind you, I do like the new behavior of the urgent hint (ten blinks and then a permanent highlighted state till selected) in 4.4 RC2 | |
| <atarinox_> i'm not sure...i was just checking out a bunch of people's xfce setups and it seemed like a few had xfce4-svn | |
| <cellofellow> atarinox_: maybe they use more cutting-edge distros like FC6 or Sid. | |
| <atarinox_> oh ok | |
| <cellofellow> make that bleeding edge, edge is cutting edge. | |
| <cellofellow> edgy rather | |
| <TheSheep> actually xubuntu dapper is beta1+svn | |
| <TheSheep> edgy is beta2 | |
| <kalikiana> How do I import OpenDocument files with Abiword? | |
| <cellofellow> works here. | |
| <cellofellow> I think. | |
| * cellofellow usually uses OOo | |
| <kalikiana> cellofellow: I find OOo too slow for most uses but I need to open one single odt file. | |
| <kalikiana> So no way? Hm... | |
| <cellofellow> I think it works. darnit | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: uncompress it (it's a zip file) and just open it with a text editor (there is an xml file inside) | |
| <kalikiana> TheSheep: yeah, that's it, raw code in favor of any ugly font styles or colors *lol* |