<mypapit> hey SuMarDi
<SuMarDi> hey mypapit
*** hantoo is now known as hantu
*** zarul is now known as zarul[brb]
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v spinz8r
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v mypapit
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v BuffaloSoldier
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v hantu
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v zarul[brb]
<BuffaloSoldier> that's something new
<zarul[brb]> lol
<zarul[brb]> what new?
<zarul[brb]> *is
<BuffaloSoldier> the voice thingy
<BuffaloSoldier> that a sign i should drop in here more often
<mypapit> BuffaloSoldier: yup
<zarul[brb]> lol
<zarul[brb]> yeah..
<zarul[brb]> anyway, did you received the email that we had setup the mailing list?
<zarul[brb]> we are also having ubuntu.com.my under construction...
<BuffaloSoldier> zarul[brb]: yeah, i got that
<BuffaloSoldier> aizat is really hardworking
<BuffaloSoldier> :)
<zarul[brb]> yeah
<zarul[brb]> :)
<zarul[brb]> other people too
<zarul[brb]> sumardi registered ubuntu.com.my
<zarul[brb]> mypapit is now helping tu design it with another guy
<zarul[brb]> everyone is working as a team and should work as a team
<BuffaloSoldier> it's been a while since i chat with sumardi
<zarul[brb]> he got connection timed out
<BuffaloSoldier> that's normal with sumardi
<BuffaloSoldier> on off on off... even on gtalk
<zarul[brb]> b rb
<zarul[brb]> reading something
<SuMarDi> hey BuffaloSoldier
<SuMarDi> hey hantu
<SuMarDi> hey zarul[brb]
<SuMarDi> wtf mypapit
<mypapit> hey SuMarDi
<mypapit> SuMarDi: how's it going?
<SuMarDi> sup mypapit
<mypapit> i'm figuring out what to do
<SuMarDi> lol
<SuMarDi> ok... do nothing
<SuMarDi> :P
<zarul[brb]> SuMarDi ask the lord for a voice
<SuMarDi> lol
<SuMarDi> The lord can't give autovoice ka
<SuMarDi> lol
<zarul[brb]> the lord merajuk d
<SuMarDi> haha
<SuMarDi> sudo chanserv voice #ubuntu-my SuMarDi
<SuMarDi> :P
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v SuMarDi
<zarul[brb]> wow!
<SuMarDi> wow... it works
<SuMarDi> wtf
<zarul[brb]> you found a hole on chanserv!
<SuMarDi> haha
<zarul[brb]> hold
<zarul[brb]> sudo chanserv op #ubuntu-my zarul[brb]
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o zarul[brb]
<zarul[brb]> wow!
<zarul[brb]> it works
*** zarul[brb] sets mode: +o BuffaloSoldier
*** zarul[brb] sets mode: +o hantu
*** zarul[brb] sets mode: +o mypapit
*** zarul[brb] sets mode: +o SuMarDi
<zarul[brb]> hehe
<SuMarDi> 'hehe
<zarul[brb]> ok
<zarul[brb]> gtg
<zarul[brb]> mata dah berair dah
<SuMarDi> lol
<SuMarDi> awalnye
<zarul[brb]> saya dok depan pc dari pkl 10
<zarul[brb]> alah BuffaloSoldier dgn mypapit ada leh main
<zarul[brb]> cya
<mypapit> haha
<BuffaloSoldier> back
<BuffaloSoldier> what's up ppl?
<mypapit> sup BuffaloSoldier!
<BuffaloSoldier> waaa
<BuffaloSoldier> guna sudo eh
<BuffaloSoldier> hahahha
<BuffaloSoldier> so who's the big kahuna in here?
<SuMarDi> hi BuffaloSoldier
<SuMarDi> long time no see
<BuffaloSoldier> hello SuMarDi
<BuffaloSoldier> sorry late reply
<hantu> hey SuMarDi
<SuMarDi> hey hantu
<SuMarDi> sup
<hantu> nadda just got home from class + dinner
<SuMarDi> ic...
<SuMarDi> hantu: i'll be back
<SuMarDi> dinner time
<SuMarDi> chieow
<hantu> sure thing.
<mypapit> hi aizatto
<aizatto> lo
<aizatto> lol geek001in here?
<geek001> :P
<geek001> aizatto, i'm here to talk to you
<geek001> aizatto, so what do you think about myoss mag
<geek001> aizatto, did you contact el-lotso
<aizatto> did i wi something?
<mypapit> hey geek001, you're here!
<mypapit> myoss mag is back?
<aizatto> wait what..
<aizatto> was i supposed to contact ellotso?
<hantu> myoss has a mag?
<hantu> :P
<mypapit> hantu: it used to
<geek001> hehehe
<geek001> aizatto, or we don't
<hantu> mmm
<hantu> must be missin' out a lot
<aizatto> geek001: you can lead it
<mypapit> heh, i'm sux at scribus
<geek001> aizatto, you know I won't be doing everything, i like delegation :p
<hantu> can i help a bit? :P
<aizatto> no problem
<aizatto> just lead
<geek001> sure
<geek001> aizatto, we need a domain
<geek001> aizatto, can we use back the old one
<aizatto> mag.my-openosurce.org
<aizatto> dr nah has control of it
<aizatto> mag.foss.org.my ?
<mypapit> aizatto: sounds cool too
<geek001> yeah
<geek001> sounds coo ltoo
<geek001> we can carry out the workload
<geek001> each person doing own part
<geek001> problem with el-lotso is he has to do lots of things
<mypapit> ok
<mypapit> dunno if this is doable
<hantu> :o
<hantu> what are we doin tho
<geek001> mypapit, i talked to aizat, we won't release it monthly
<mypapit> actually it is doable, but dunno if it would pay
<geek001> mypapit, it is too much constraint in term of time
<mypapit> ic
<geek001> and we need to find contributors
<mypapit> so we are going to release it when its ready?
<geek001> which is not easy
<hantu> pfft.
<geek001> mypapit, nope, maybe quater
<mypapit> hey i think maybe i've an idea to raise fund for myoss mag, but dunno if its going to really pays
<mypapit> lol
<geek001> mypapit, we seriously don't need fund, we need CONTRIBUTORS
<geek001> mypapit, and I have one idea
<mypapit> but i guess our prob contrib
<geek001> mypapit, to co-operate with surface
<mypapit> **is contrib
<mypapit> geek001: how?
<geek001> mypapit, we will include his LBE to the mag
<geek001> mypapit, which in more proper way
<geek001> mypapit, so that reader can learn in one shoot
<geek001> mypapit, a column for LBE
<mypapit> geek001: like one or two post of lbe snippets in in myoss mag?
<mypapit> that ok
<mypapit> i think we can do with less page
<geek001> mypapit, we accumulate, remember i said 3 or 4 months a release
<hantu> lbe?
<mypapit> geek001: yeah
<geek001> mypapit, yup, so it should be good, i got a friend who will be the editor
<geek001> mypapit, so we don't have to worry about the syntax or grammar, or aizat or any guys who is good in english will do
<mypapit> ic
<hantu> bah *fed up*
<mypapit> i'm bad with grammar lol
<geek001> me either
<geek001> hantu, we need contributions
<geek001> :p
<hantu> im tryin to understand what's goin on
<mypapit> hehe
<mypapit> i dont think its hard
<mypapit> keke
<hantu> seems like im bein ignored all the way
<hantu> :o
<mypapit> hantu: why's that?
<geek001> hantu, just about the magazine
<geek001> for myoss
<geek001> and damn aizat idle
<hantu> mypapit: you ask me :o
<hantu> got an ol' edition of the mag?
<geek001> yeah
<geek001> got
<surface> huuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
<hantu> link?
<surface> is it party here?
<mypapit> yeah
<surface> tuxmachine.org cut my content and pasted there...
<surface> but they provide the link... so now its a second referal point for lbe
<hantu> whats lbe
<surface> what party here? chicks photo link?
<surface> porn?
<surface> rapid share?
<geek001> hantu, dang
<mypapit> hantu: do you want to join lbe?
<geek001> hantu, it's gone
<geek001> surface, lbe
<geek001> linux by examples
<hantu> oh.
<geek001> surface, we want to revive the myoss mag
<hantu> linkage.
<hantu> :o
<mypapit> hantu: it's a website dedicated for command line example.. so user can surf the website and learn by example
<geek001> surface, remember the myoss mag
<hantu> sounds fun
<toydi> wasup?
<hantu> hot day =\
<surface> geek001, great
<surface> geek001, revive it?
<toydi> hantu: it's cold here
<geek001> surface, so I'm thinking for the mag, we will have a column for LBE
<geek001> surface, we won't make it monthly release
<geek001> as too much hassle and lacking times and contributions
<surface> geek001, tips and tricks?
<surface> geek001, great! yearly
<geek001> and i think in 3 months, LBE has lots of things if accumulated
<geek001> surface, so we will put a column for LBE
<surface> we have aizatto a good author, geek a good author for security and network.
<surface> we have toydi a good designer..
<hantu> is there a web for linux by example :p
<surface> i have my silly idea :P
<geek001> hantu, sure
<surface> hantu lne.blogdns.com/lbe
<hantu> i have my being invisible abiulity.
<surface> glad u asked
<hantu> thanks surface
<surface> welcome.
<geek001> surface, that's what we can think of
<geek001> surface, 3 months is okay
<hantu> pretty new in this oss environment, tryin to contribute whatever i can :)
<geek001> surface, as we need to find contributors too
<hantu> oh
<hantu> my type of thing.
<hantu> cli ftw.
<surface> geek001, tips and tricks, Q&A
<surface> one session news
<geek001> surface, as long as we have column entry from LBE, that means we have contents already :P
<geek001> we will look for contributors
<toydi> geek001: lol
<surface> one session free talk, ( such as gpl 3, how ubuntu so great.. etc)
<surface> one session tutorial
<surface> sone session hardcore
<hantu> if you're making a myoss mag
<surface> can have crossword lol linux format have that... i have leak of knowledge to do it ...:P
<hantu> posting only a 'why ubuntu is so great' article might receive flames from other distro users ;P
<surface> hantu: myoss mag exist
<geek001> hantu, of course not, do i look like ubuntu user?
<surface> hantu: thats what we want... flame sometimes = fame
<hantu> geek001: you looked like a windows user
<hantu> =P
<hantu> think i should get someone to write 'why windows is on top of linux' then submit to myoss mag :P
<surface> i check the traffic of lbe from analytics u know what?
<geek001> hantu, nope, I'm dos user
<hantu> geek001: lovely.
<hantu> brb, i'm checking out lbe
<geek001> I can use dos with network enabled
<geek001> :P
<geek001> now the slacker is back
<geek001> !!!!!
<hantu> i play oblivion with dos :p
<surface> windows user surf the page 208, linux 152
<toydi> surface: what's interesting about the traffic?
<toydi> lol
<surface> mac 16 sunos 1
<surface> dosbox
<surface> i ll maybe download and try out the game :P
<hantu> surface: lbe on my bookmark now, great work :)
<toydi> hantu: bookmark www.pdfchm.com too
<surface> thanks for the support, we need more author for more different kind of example from different aspect
<geek001> hahaha
<surface> toydi, u created www.pdfchm.com isn't it?
<geek001> i will trash with FreeBSD by examples
<surface> geek001, great
<aizatto> then someone start windows by examples
<hantu> got that too toydi
<geek001> aizatto, windows by examples - hantu
<toydi> surface: i'm not, pdfchm.com are created by geeks from rusia
<geek001> dos by examples - geek00L
<aizatto> sex by examples - mypapit
<geek001> os/2 by examples - bank user
<toydi> hantu: pdfchm is amazing
<geek001> os/2 is so great
<geek001> damn
<surface> alliance , c/c++ by example
<surface> php by example
<surface> ruby by example
<aizatto> why doesnt someone just get the byexamples domain :P?
<toydi> evil.. that's sure a host domain
<geek001> aizatto, because they want real thing instead of example
<aizatto> byexamples.info
<aizatto> go for it
<toydi> s/host/hot
<mypapit> aizatto: lol
<mypapit> ruby.byexamples ?
<aizatto> .info
<surface> i wanna buy it
<surface> when i earn enough
<toydi> by.exa.mpl.es <-- buy this!
<surface> www.linuxbyexamples.com
<aizatto> toydi: death
<aizatto> 2 periods is ok :P more is crazy
<surface> great, good idea
<surface> byexamples
<toydi> we'll buy this: mpl.es
<hantu> by-examples.com/.net
<hantu> then subdomain it
<hantu> lovely.
<aizatto> byexamples.info ! :P
<surface> why info?
<surface> not com?
<surface> more cheaper?
<hantu> .info is cheaper
<hantu> :P
<hantu> that's why
<surface> i see.
<aizatto> because its information!
<aizatto> more relevant
<hantu> by-examples.com/.net are available
<surface> but people will always remember .com instead of something else
<hantu> indeed.
<surface> byexamples.com is not.
<toydi> surface, aizatto: byexa.mpl.es
<surface> damn, del.icio.us
<aizatto> toydi: does.nt.look.ni.ce
<mypapit> hard to remember
<toydi> that's right, give up :P
<surface> ya
<surface> bye.xam.ple
<geek001> stop it
<geek001> !
<geek001> damn
<hantu> i could reg by-examples.com/.net, but someone might need to provide the hosting.
<mypapit> hahaha
<aizatto> geek001: ne.ver
<toydi> no.more.pi.mpl.es , should be a hot domain
<surface> when hosting but bind dns, the dynamic referal will charge
<hantu> icky. :o
<surface> geek.ool
<surface> geek.oo.lee
<surface> teo.toy.di
<aizatto> lee.chin.she.ng
* hantu stabs surface
<hantu> o_O
* surface died...
<aizatto> ask geek001 for free hosting
* surface wakes up again
<surface> my.surf.ace
<geek001> ahhahahaa
<geek001> lol
<hantu> my.a.ss
<surface> my.o.ss
<surface> my.pap.it
<surface> ai.zat.to
<surface> han.so.lo
<surface> ops..
<toydi> but that top-level domain must exist lar (e.g. country code or .com, .edu etc)
<surface> gho.st
<hantu> shut.up.lar
<hantu> :o
* hantu buys a country with the tld of lar
<aizatto> hantu: not.having.fun.com
<toydi> rotfl
<surface> u.bun.tu
<surface> yum.su.ck
<toydi> surface: by.eg <-- from Egypt
<surface> yeah, great
<surface> bsd.by.eg/gee/koo/lee
<geek001> hey
<geek001> stop that thing
<geek001> damn
<surface> myoss mag
<surface> okay... how u wanna revive it?
<mypapit> how? find contributors
<mypapit> then submit contents
<surface> online mag?
<mypapit> who's the project coordinator?
<mypapit> surface: yeah, online mag
<surface> why don't do like blog or wiki format...
* toydi agree too
<surface> after have enough content, release as a print version, if someone interested to buy
<geek001> mypapit, aizat is
<geek001> lol
<geek001> aizat is always coordinator
<geek001> :P
<surface> aizat didn't say anything
<surface> use what publisher tools to create?
<surface> should have one
<surface> or develop one as online publisher using ajax tech?
<aizatto> me coordinator what?
<aizatto> i'm going to be taking a vacation for two months :P
<aizatto> go figure something out :P
<hantu> not sure what to do here O_o
<mypapit> geek001: aizatto going to take a long vacation
<surface> myoss online mag
<mypapit> surface: the previous myoss mag uses scribus
<aizatto> hantu: spank people till they cry
<surface> hantu, do nothing, learn to talk crap
<surface> let me show u a simple example
<hantu> pfft.
<surface> <pre>lalalala</pre>
<hantu> *goes back to idle then*
<surface> scribus?
<surface> latex might be good.
<geek001> mypapit, i know
<geek001> mypapit, he will be slacker for a while
<mypapit> hehehe
<mypapit> surface: latex? lol
<mypapit> geek001: i can be a coordinator
<geek001> mypapit, cool
<geek001> :)
<geek001> mypapit, we need to spread the word
<mypapit> yup
<geek001> we need a designer!
<mypapit> i'll announce on my blog.. we might need a webpage too
<geek001> mypapit, yup
<surface> just put at geekool and mypapit blog is good enough to spread far
<geek001> a separete one
<geek001> surface, LBE!
<mypapit> lbe is cool
<geek001> surface, you should spread
<geek001> since you will have a column
<surface> each of one talk a column, and need a real spelling and grammer checker
<surface> can put LBE too...
<geek001> and i think aizat can talk about how he is slacking on his long holiday
<surface> put at lbe
<mypapit> i'll take the mobile development
<surface> a mag cover...
<mypapit> hehe
<mypapit> maybe one or two stuff about software reviews
<surface> aizatto will be boring at outer space and come back online and contribute don't worry
<mypapit> geek001: where we gonna host the website?
<surface> great software reviews
<geek001> mypapit, i don't know
<mypapit> i can provide the hosting
<toydi> if the mag will be edited via wiki, may consider: http://www.wikipublisher.org
<geek001> maybe the foss.org.my
<mypapit> foss.org.my is cool enough
<geek001> toydi, wiki, no shit
<aizatto> get byexamples.info !
<aizatto> :P
<hantu> hrm.
<surface> linux format have hardcore column: PAM tailored authentication
<geek001> toydi, not at the moment
<hantu> i can spam one of my friend's blog :P he's got pretty stable traffic
<hantu> :P
<geek001> we need a designer by the way
<mypapit> i think we should try to focus on malaysian environment
<mypapit> yeah, designer
<geek001> yup
<surface> hantu, learn fast, that is crap
<geek001> mypapit, distribute pdf and odf format
<geek001> LOL
<mypapit> yup
<mypapit> but odf?
<surface> haih, i can't design in gimp...
<mypapit> geek001: so the mag will be written in wordprocessor?
<surface> not use to in, and no time for learning tat...
<geek001> mypapit, i don't know actually
<aizatto> odf? wtf?
<surface> wordprocessor? omg
<geek001> maybe who involve in previous mag can tell
<mypapit> aizatto: that's my reaction, but i forgot the magic acronym
<aizatto> i dont know if odf was meant for dtp work
<BuffaloSoldier> aizatto: long time
<aizatto> BuffaloSoldier: yo
<geek001> whatever fits in
<aizatto> BuffaloSoldier: this channel is alive! its no more quiet!
<mypapit> previously myoss mag uses scribus
<BuffaloSoldier> mag? magazine?
<geek001> who have done the mag before can tell their experience
<mypapit> geek001: but i sux at scribus!
<geek001> me too haha
<geek001> lets see
<BuffaloSoldier> mypapit: that's ok... i suck at everything :)
<geek001> i'm okay for how it is done
<geek001> as long as it is done
<mypapit> BuffaloSoldier: haha
<aizatto> scribus was a bitch (1 year ago)
<aizatto> i dont know if it has improved
<mypapit> aizatto: so, what's your suggestion?
<geek001> BuffaloSoldier, hopefully you don't suck c0ck
<geek001> :P
<hantu> why not just save the troubles and just do an e-mag
<hantu> :o
<mypapit> if we are going to use wordprocess, then it will be a newsletter
<aizatto> mypapit: release a pdf quartlerly, with articles on the net inbetween
<mypapit> **wordprocessor
<surface> no one consider latex :S ?
<aizatto> licensed under a creative commons by attribution
<aizatto> dudes
<mypapit> aizatto: i mean the software that produce the stuff part
<aizatto> lets do this under ubuntu.com.my
<geek001> aha
<BuffaloSoldier> aizatto: is that the domain name that sumardi registered?
<mypapit> aizatto: ermm.. won't people get confused with the ubuntu name on it/
<mypapit> **by
<surface> aizatto, geek001 bites
<aizatto> its the Ubuntu Malaysia Magazine
<aizatto> :P
<hantu> how to make use of the ubuntu.com.my is another problem :o
<BuffaloSoldier> lotsa new ppl :)
<aizatto> all things to do with Ubuntu
<mypapit> aizatto: heh, using ubuntu name in publication is a bit problematic
<surface> aizatto, be aware
<BuffaloSoldier> mypapit: i agree... canonical may have some requirements before u can do that
<hantu> copyright/trademark crap
<geek001> lol
<surface> geek001 will have nothing to write...
<toydi> BuffaloSoldier: new is relative :P
<surface> oss and bsd is not ubuntu
<geek001> i don't plan to write anything
<aizatto> mypapit: worse comes to worse we just run s/Ubuntu/ScrewUbuntu/g
<geek001> i can write how to watch movie and listen music using ubuntu
<surface> ubuntu is created by debian which is call linux
<mypapit> aizatto: screwbuntu mag :p
<surface> then i write have fun with xmms
<surface> what so good in xmms?
<BuffaloSoldier> toydi: true... its been a long time since i last check in here
<toydi> surface: u may invite scamboy to write a column
<surface> is xmms have nothing to do except listen to music.
<mypapit> scamboy? lol?
<mypapit> he must have something interesting to share
<surface> joke column
<surface> lets a innocent boy tell u what is oss
<geek001> hahahaha
<surface> introducing errrrrrrrrrrrr scam BOY!
<mypapit> why not invite mr vincent "i write my own wiki page" lee along the way
<mypapit> lol
<geek001> vincent is wanker either
<geek001> or joker
<SuMarDi> hi everyone!
<hantu> *lost*
<surface> beware, thats lee
<surface> vincent lee
<surface> everybody knows vincent lee
<aizatto> everyone hates vicent lee
<surface> vicent? his brother?
<mypapit> i found his cv
<mypapit> quite impressive
<surface> i discover that, dell notebook have a bad backlight
<geek001> mypapit, cv is meant for ?
<geek001> nothing
<geek001> one can write good cv
<geek001> if they know how
<geek001> :P
<surface> use latex to write
<mypapit> geek001: resume..
<mypapit> keke
<mypapit> geek001: dunno seems like a general cv
<mypapit> first class honours here, first class honours there
<geek001> mypapit, i have a collegue who is first class too
<BuffaloSoldier> ok, lotsa catching up to do
<geek001> mypapit, and his learning pace
<geek001> damn slow shit
<BuffaloSoldier> who's this vincent lee/wanker?
<aizatto> mypapit: wheres hte resume?
<geek001> and another guy who is slacker in school with diploma
<aizatto> i'm nothing class :(
<aizatto> havent eve ngraduated
<geek001> who is damn fast learner
<geek001> and now level 2 sysadmin after 1 year in the company
<geek001> so that means nothing
<surface> i am a slow learner too
<geek001> the class is for wanker
<geek001> damn book worm
<geek001> :P
<geek001> there might be someone with first class though
<geek001> oops
<mypapit> aizatto: http://leehongfay.tripod.com/cv.pdf
<surface> class wanker { wanker wanker() {;}; bool IsWanking(); };
<aizatto> surface: oi!
<aizatto> classes should start with a capital letter
<surface> no syntax error
<surface> successfully compiled and linked
<aizatto> bad programming style
<BuffaloSoldier> what's that? java?
<surface> take off should and put is suggest to
<BuffaloSoldier> MARA Science College, Kuala Lumpur??????
<mypapit> BuffaloSoldier: yeah, impressive isnt it?
<mypapit> hehe
<BuffaloSoldier> very impressive
<BuffaloSoldier> i'll wank him myself
<mypapit> aizatto, you may not know how significant those info are
<mypapit> hehe
<aizatto> cambridge uni? wow someone has money
<aizatto> his cv is ugly
<mypapit> haha
<geek001> stupid
<aizatto> Best All-Rounder 1996
<aizatto> Voted by fellow students in the college.
<aizatto> AWNHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
<geek001> i swear myself i won't give my son a name of vincent
<surface> ok, cut crap
<surface> hows the mag thing goes?
<geek001> surface, i'm all set
<mypapit> ok..
<mypapit> me too
<geek001> we use word processor
<geek001> :P
<geek001> hahahaha
<mypapit> geek001: it wouldnt be mag, it would be a newsletter then
<geek001> first we need a site up
<geek001> then we spread the word through our blogs
<surface> site up is easy
<mypapit> ok, which domain do we use?
<aizatto> dude should we be talking about this on a logged channel :P?
<BuffaloSoldier> Vincent Vega
<geek001> aizatto, yeah, we should!
<geek001> it's not a secret
<geek001> :P
<mypapit> ok, which domain do we use? hosting is less of my concert right now
<mypapit> concern
<mypapit> damn..
<surface> http://andreasviklund.com/templates/
<BuffaloSoldier> what r we creating again? Linux Msia Mag? or Ubuntu Msia Mag?
<geek001> site up -> spread words -> getting contributors -> contents editing + design -> publish -> Review -> cycle again
<surface> use mypapit will be cool
<geek001> if it is okay for all of you
<surface> MY0SS mag
<geek001> i'm all set haha
<mypapit> geek001: ok, first thing first.. the site.. which domain do we use
<aizatto> byexamples.info !
<mypapit> aizatto: you sure?
<surface> aizatto.com also nvm
<geek001> site
<surface> aizatto, i will buy it soon, i need some $$
<geek001> whatever you guys can think of
<aizatto> surface: borrow from geek001
<mypapit> i can grab any of it right now up to 3 years
<surface> use mypapit.com also not bad, as mypapit is always around here
<surface> mypapit, so easy? how much?
<mypapit> surface: lol, i kinda have back business that deals with domain reg and webhosting
<mypapit> tuxcafe.com ?
<geek001> whatever
<geek001> it's good too
<geek001> it sounds so relaxing
<mypapit> ok.. it already have PR4 startup
<geek001> mag should be that
<geek001> relax reading
<mypapit> ok tuxcafe.com it is, what's the mag name?
<geek001> mypapit, RelaxOSS
<geek001> lol
<geek001> whatever
<mypapit> haha
<geek001> normally when we read mag, it should be entertaining
<mypapit> yup
<geek001> okay cool
<geek001> think of suitable name
<BuffaloSoldier> this mag will be targeting long time user of linux? or attracting new ppl?
<mypapit> local targetted, relatively new people
<aizatto> i told you lah
<aizatto> Ubuntu Malaysia Magazine!
<geek001> cibai
<aizatto> geek001: oi
<mypapit> aizatto: sounds fun, but what about the legal issue
<geek001> i hate the official name
<aizatto> i thought you said you would stop saying that
<geek001> :P
<geek001> LOL
<aizatto> Unofficial Ubuntu Malaysia Magazine
<surface> mag.intouch
<geek001> wtf
<aizatto> mypapit: there settled :P
<geek001> damn aizat sound like robot
<BuffaloSoldier> do we have any local words that best describes freedom/liberty?
<geek001> aizatto, what can we write if just Ubuntu Malaysia Magazine
<aizatto> BEBAS!
<surface> Freedom
<geek001> wtf
<aizatto> Merdeka!
<surface> just call it Freedom
<geek001> since when aizat's Malay so l33t
<mypapit> hehe
<surface> u know a published mag so famous? its call Nature
<geek001> why not a more entertaining name
<surface> ours call "Freedom"
<geek001> Nature sounds so good
<geek001> LOL
<surface> Freedom4Wanker
<toydi> Freestyle
<BuffaloSoldier> i like Freestyle :)
<geek001> yeah
<geek001> i like too
<geek001> :)
<aizatto> geek001: lots of potential in me that even i'm not aware of
<surface> toydi, i tot u sleep already
<geek001> aizatto, i know :P
<BuffaloSoldier> aizatto: your potential is limitless... u're just one level below Jack Bauer
<toydi> surface: meditation, not sleep.. lol
<surface> Freestyle, free as in free bsd
<aizatto> BuffaloSoldier: rofl
<aizatto> why not call it Teh Tarik Freedom
<geek001> Jack Bauer is a liar
<geek001> the tarik freedom is good
<geek001> but too long
<geek001> I like FreeStyle too
<toydi> Freestyle Mamak
<surface> http://www.packtpub.com/Award
<mypapit> ok freestyle? everbuddy aggree?
<surface> wordpress is not cms?
<mypapit> everybody agree?
<geek001> i'm okay
<geek001> others
<BuffaloSoldier> i think most agree on freestyle
<BuffaloSoldier> but i think its best if we sleep on it first
* mypapit is ok with FreeStyle
<mypapit> http://www.freestylemagazine.com.au/ << lol can't use it
<mypapit> nnt kena saman
<geek001> i think aizat still want his Ubuntu Malaysia Magazine, lets kick his ass
<mypapit> hahha
<surface> ppl will think it is a dance mag, end up dancing with tux and drink coffie
<toydi> surface: wordpress is more to blog, cms does more
<geek001> cibai
<geek001> surface, that's what we need
<geek001> entertaining
<geek001> and relaxing
<geek001> okay
<geek001> so what's next
<toydi> "Unofficially Free"
<surface> freemag
<BuffaloSoldier> geek001: if u want to kick aizatto ass... it must be done in 24 hours... after that duration... he will know everything he needs to know to counter ur ass kick
<aizatto> up up down down left right left right a b
<geek001> BuffaloSoldier, i told you jack is just a liar
<surface> aya ! just call it "Surface" :P
<geek001> so does aizat
<geek001> :P
<geek001> surface, it's a name of tv series
<geek001> :p
<geek001> got to go now
<geek001> later guys
<geek001> :)
<mypapit> ok laterz
<BuffaloSoldier> later geek001
<surface> swt
<surface> so whats the mag name?
<aizatto> Unofficial Ubuntu Malaysia Magazine
<BuffaloSoldier> YUMMY = Your Unofficial Ubuntu Magazine - Malaysia
<toydi> YUUMM?
<BuffaloSoldier> YUMMY = Your Ubuntu Magazine - MY (malaysia)
<BuffaloSoldier> my brain spewing out crap at this hours
<aizatto> why not try a MAKAN acryonym?
<BuffaloSoldier> Majlis Agama Kampung Anak Nangka
<aizatto> rofl ?
<surface> ...
<BuffaloSoldier> blank
<aizatto> BuffaloSoldier: should be in capitals
<surface> mypapit: wanna try new stuff ? http://www.joomla.org/
<surface> cms
<surface> use it for the myoss mag
<aizatto> joomla aint new
<mypapit> you mean use joomla as the mag itself?
<BuffaloSoldier> TIMUR = The Independant Magazine for Ubuntu Readers
<surface> mypapit, for the web for mag
<mypapit> haha
<surface> BuffaloSoldier, u r good in this, kooldos
<surface> http://demo.joomla.org/demo15/
<surface> looks cool
<toydi> TIMUN = The Independant Magazine for Ubuntu Nerds
<mypapit> surface: joomla expert is on my side
<mypapit> hehe
<mypapit> why dont we just call the mag, aizatto's
<mypapit> zattomag
<toydi> good idea!
<mypapit> zattomag - smell the freedom
<BuffaloSoldier> lets try this again
<BuffaloSoldier> just type in any words that u think describes the magazine... can be in any languange
<toydi> localized words?
<BuffaloSoldier> bebas, terbuka, terlus, lutsinar, baru, pioner, perintis
<BuffaloSoldier> toydi: can be in any language
<BuffaloSoldier> friendly
<BuffaloSoldier> ramah
<BuffaloSoldier> gotong-royong
<surface> japan have open source art
<surface> http://www.divvydual.org/
<surface> all free, so nice... free entrance, damn, why not here
<mypapit> heh but myoss mag would be fun
<mypapit> but now seems it's going to be produced using wordprocessor
<mypapit> it would be myoss newsletter
<surface> uses wordprocessor is .....err the output will not be nice
<mypapit> aizatto: can we use myoss name for the newsletter/mag
<mypapit> surface: do you have any suggestions?
<aizatto> i dont have trademark on it :P
<mypapit> aizatto: so that mean we can use it lol?
<aizatto> i dont have trademark on it :P
<aizatto> dont think there is any
<aizatto> just use it
<mypapit> ok
<surface> mypapit, even uses html is better than wordprocessor
<mypapit> surface: ic
<toydi> mypapit: http://wikipublisher.org
<aizatto> html isnt going to solve it
<toydi> btw, what is typeset?
<mypapit> toydi: how the letters/words are arranged
<mypapit> toydi: great link
<toydi> mypapit: wikipublisher maybe a nice tool
<toydi> mypapit: try its user guide demo
<surface> maybe can use a cms to design a mag, i am not sure possible or not
<mypapit> i'm trying it :)
<surface> the measurement is important
<aizatto> docbook with xslt conversion!
<mypapit> aizatto: docbook is good, can it handle illustration/photo well?
<aizatto> yes it has the appropriate tags
<aizatto> what you want is something to describe what hte content is
<aizatto> html doesnt do that
<mypapit> yup
<surface> http://mag.my-opensource.org/
<surface> wth, its gone
<mypapit> i'm going to look both alternatives
<mypapit> surface: from now on, it's gonna be myoss.tuxcafe.com
<surface> 1http://www.tuxmagazine.com/
<mypapit> surface: tuxmagazine is nice
<mypapit> we haven't determined a suitable publishing platform
<mypapit> i think it gonna be on my todo list
<mypapit> wb geek00L!
<mypapit> geek00L: i think we decided on myoss newsletter
<geek00L> aha
<aizatto> come home ot join this channel?
<aizatto> geez man
<geek00L> lol
<surface> geek00L, myoss.tuxcafe.com
<surface> just call the mag either myoss mag or tuxcafe mag la
<geek00L> ok
<surface> its either use wikipublisher or docbook for writting
<mypapit> yeah.. either wikipublisher or docbook
<geek00L> okay
<geek00L> anything is ok
<geek00L> except aizat suggestion
<aizatto> i suggested docbook biatch
<aizatto> :P
<mypapit> aizatto: does docbook have helper app or something?
<aizatto> i believe OOo can read/export docbook
<aizatto> should check
<mypapit> aizatto: lol, sounds like writing from the wordprocessor
<aizatto> i mentally parse xml files :P
<surface> mysurface.myftp.org/download/mag/tux019.pdf
<mypapit> ok..
<mypapit> if it sets then i'll upload a website, and a wiki
<mypapit> or something that can help coordinate the mag content
<surface> check out tuxmag, i just downloaded it free.
<mypapit> surface: ok
<surface> can email them? what software they use to create that mag, it looks cool
<mypapit> surface: last time el-lotso asked, they use some dtp publishing app on macosx
<aizatto> adobe indesign?
<surface> hahaha not open source publisher tools?
<mypapit> surface: nope
<surface> then use ms publisher :P
<mypapit> haha
<surface> anyway, ms publisher is not as good as adobe one
<mypapit> yeah
<mypapit> sucky
<surface> qunu, hahaha
<surface> i am scan through tux mag
<surface> ya tux mag is entertaining
<geek00L> hahaha
<mypapit> hahaha
<mypapit> scribus!!
<mypapit> and docbook
<geek00L> suckage
<mypapit> and other dtp shit
<geek00L> jhhahahaha
<mypapit> toydi died of boringness
<mypapit> ok..ok.. seems that we are close to agree on something now
<mypapit> geek00L: know somebody who can do art and design?
<mypapit> like the logo and stuffs?
<surface> open source game, but not for linux, http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=shots
<surface> toydi can
<surface> i can using photoshop
<surface> not gimp, i can't use to yet ...
<surface> tux mag is for leisure... i like linux format more than tux mag
<surface> ok i need some sleep
<mypapit> surface: photoshop is fine
<geek00L> hahaha
<mypapit> almost impossible to find gimp guru
<surface> but i need to switch my com to windoze.. i hate to do tat.
<geek00L> mypapit: there are few in #fluxbox
<mypapit> at least locally
<mypapit> lol
<geek00L> mypapit: and i think my friend can quickly learn it
<mypapit> surface: yeah, switch to windows? bummer..
<mypapit> geek00L: ok cool
<surface> i love my fluxbox
<surface> it binds key nicely for me
<mypapit> http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=shots << this game seems awfully familiar to the first unreal tournament
<mypapit> unreal tournament 1999
<surface> i am using mouse to click gaim msg box only
<surface> and highlight url
<surface> mypapit, but only exe.
<mypapit> surface: seems the game has linux version
<mypapit> tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
<mypapit> can compile from src too
<surface> oh really?
<mypapit> yup
<surface> try and this will be our first topic of tuxcafe :)
<mypapit> http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=files
<mypapit> lol
<surface> oh i missed
<surface> i see windows, me mata sepek
<geek00L> hahahah
<geek00L> okay man
<mypapit> okay
<surface> ok good night
<geek00L> tuxcafe
<geek00L> :)
<surface> i am downloading too
<surface> for tips and tricks, i can extract from LBE
<mypapit> surface: that's the idea
<mypapit> i gonna take the mobile section, and maybe sometime a software review
<geek00L> cool
<surface> extract from everybody 's blog that makes a mag
<geek00L> i will just be slacker!
<geek00L> :)
<mypapit> haha
<surface> geek00L, no u handle network and security
<geek00L> surface: that's NOT my field
<geek00L> slacking is mine
<geek00L> :)
<surface> extract from ur blog and rewrite a bit, thats consider slacking
<geek00L> my blog has nothing
<surface> 438 today. i gonna go sleep good night
<geek00L> except ranting
<surface> wish seeing tuxcafe comming out soon.
<surface> ciao
<BuffaloSoldier> goodnite ppl
<BuffaloSoldier> salams
<mypapit> salam
<hantu> slm!
<BuffaloSoldier> geek00L:
<BuffaloSoldier> morning

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