<amachu> smurf, Please help us by providing LocoBot to log the chat at our #ubuntu-tam channel
<amachu> smurf, Thank U in advance
<Burgundavia> Seveas: ping
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<AlinuxOS> hello
<AlinuxOS> I've recived a message for ubuntu-ge Georgian mailing list setup howto
<AlinuxOS> in benvenue message I've wrote message in unicode ქართული (with georgian letters)
<AlinuxOS> but members recieve messages in:
<AlinuxOS> &#4313;&#4308;&#4311;&#4312;&#4314;&#4312; &#4312;&#4327;&#4317;&#4321; &#4311;&#4325;&#4309;&#4308;&#4316;&#4312; &#4315;&#4317;&#4305;&#4320;&#4331;&#4304;&#4316;&#4308;&#4305;&#4304; &#4323;&#4305;&#4323;&#4316;&#4322;&#4323;&#4321; &#4325;&#4304;&#4320;&#4311;&#4309;&#4308;&#4314; &#4315;&#4317;&#4315;&#4334;&#4
<AlinuxOS> in this format.
<AlinuxOS> what can I do to fix that ?
<Seveas> Burgundavia, pong
<AlinuxOS> somone who can help me with mailing list ?
<AlinuxOS> someone
<Yann2> ping jono
<Seveas> Burgwork, poke
<Burgwork> Seveas: pong
<Seveas> you pinged me earlier today
<Seveas> 'sup?
<Burgwork> right
<Burgwork> that was before I slept, so I am having a hard time remembering
<Seveas> hehe
<mdke> Burgwork: it was about the automatix wiki page, we hoped Seveas could add some information about where/why using automatix might cause problems
<Seveas> no
<mdke> Seveas: can you recommend someone else who is maybe more familiar with the problems automatix might cause?
<jenda> I'd recommend nalioth
<jenda> I'm not sure if his info is up-to-date, though.
<mdke> it doesn't have to be extremely technical, just something that informs the user reading the guide, since whoever wrote the guide has not included anything like that
<jenda> mdke: I think nalioth is one of the most flaming critics of aut'x, or was a few months ago.
<mdke> flaming criticism doesn't sound appropriate. More just some examples of problems that might be caused.
<mdke> but thanks, jenda
<jenda> that's not really what I meant, hehe
<JanC> fro mwhat I hear (but didn't test it) automatix2 is a bit less insane than automatix ;)
<Burgwork> JanC: the issue is that is still duplicates a huge amount from add/remove
<JanC> of course
<JanC> it just seems like people want those "common cases" grouped in one window or something...
<JanC> maybe add/remove should grow something like that?
<JanC> some sort of a "wizard"? ;-)
<Burgwork> JanC: umm....
<Burgwork> what is simpler than open and type into the search bar?
<JanC> Burgwork: without knowing what to search for, what use is a search bar? ;-)
<JanC> and yes, *I* know that all this is explained in the manual, but "nobody" reads it...
<Burgwork> actually, the search is pretty easy
<JanC> it's easy, but just doesn't work for what people search for :)
<mdke> you should file a bug if you find a search term that doesn't work
<JanC> I just tried 10 search terms and none worked ;)
<mdke> you should file a bug if you find a search term that doesn't work
<JanC> I'm not going to file 100s of bugs...
<mdke> how about filing one bug?
<JanC> I rather think something is wrong/missing
<mdke> that's what bugs are for
<mdke> right?
<JanC> so if I file a bug it won't be about missing keywords (there are tens of thousands of them)
<JanC> and they aren't translated either
<mdke> well, it will. At any rate, I'd be impressed if you find tens of thousands of keywords
<mdke> (obviously, the keyword needs to be in a package description to be capable of being found)
<JanC> package descriptions are an overview of what the package does
<JanC> not a description of all possible use cases
* mdke gives up
<JanC> mdke: to give you one example, have you any idea how many file formats, codecs and variations & synonyms thereof the ffmpeg library supports?
<JanC> you don't want to list them all in the package description, or it would become 5 pages long or something like that
<JanC> and you would have to include that list for every package that includes or links to it
<JanC> thats insane
<jenda> The Czech LoCo Team has it's first meeting on Wednesday! :)
<jenda> (After about a year of existence in cyberspace)
<JanC> bravo!
<JanC> I think you mean IRL meeting? :)
<mhz> Hi all
<mhz> is Marilieze still the person to request the letter for loco-Customs?
<mruiz> hi mhz
<mhz> mruiz: :)
<mdke> mhz: have a look at the faq, it should be in there
<mhz> mdke: duh!, yeah, sorry...forgot about faq's and instead I used Google :)
<mdke> not a fan of faq's myself
<mhz> hehhe
<mhz> and BTW...the faq link is almost lost on the footer
<mhz> it is pretty sure more people will miss it
<mdke> shipit footer?
<mhz> yeah, page footer
<mdke> you could file a bug: shipit has a product in launchpad for bugs, if it's a general website thing, use ubuntu-website
<mhz> okidokis
* mhz always considers bugs are not same as 'suggestions'

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