| <lophyte> evening all | |
| <bhearsum> hiya | |
| <lophyte> hey :) | |
| <bhearsum> how goes it | |
| <lophyte> not bad.. you? | |
| <bhearsum> ah, busy | |
| <bhearsum> end of semester | |
| <Burgwork> well, when you are done, there is lots of Ubuntu work waiting :) | |
| <bhearsum> talk to me in 60 years when i retire | |
| <bhearsum> maybe 50 | |
| <lophyte> wow.. | |
| <lophyte> that web developer toolbar is awesome | |
| <bhearsum> yeah! | |
| <bhearsum> 'outline block level elements' is paticularly useful | |
| <bhearsum> and all the css features | |
| <tonyyarusso> Heads up for the weekend if the weather clears: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2006/11/17/meteor-shower.html | |
| <lophyte> bhearsum: the x-ray add-on is cool too | |
| <oqp> oh, time for the selenoids! | |
| <bhearsum> x-ray? | |
| <bhearsum> x | |
| <lophyte> yeah | |
| <oqp> hmm, that doesn't sound right :) | |
| <lophyte> it basically displays the page source right on the page | |
| <lophyte> its like view source + rendered output | |
| <bhearsum> ah cool | |
| <lophyte> so you can see which tags are doing what | |
| <bhearsum> sounds similar to the 'view style information' option | |
| <lophyte> kinda.. except it shows the HTML tags, not the css | |
| <lifepositive> hello everyone :) | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: hello | |
| <PFA> oh god | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: what you doing today? | |
| <PFA> eating a sandwich with kosher pickles and helping my brother with his french homework | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: ok | |
| <lifepositive> what does it mean kosher pickles? | |
| <bhearsum> how can pickles not be kosher? | |
| <bhearsum> the salt? | |
| <PFA> apparently there is some kind of emulsifier that is not in kosher pickles | |
| <PFA> yeah | |
| <bhearsum> ah | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: ok thanks | |
| <PFA> and i specify kosher pickles because we were talking about kosher pickles in #ubuntu-offtopic, but ALL MY BELIEFS ABOUT KOSHER PICKLES ARE WRONG AND I WILL BURN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE OMG | |
| <lifepositive> i didnt know that | |
| <bhearsum> PFA: nice! | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: hehe ;) | |
| <lifepositive> bhearsum: :P | |
| * PFA rolls eyes at lifepositive | |
| * bhearsum smites PFA | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: :) | |
| <lifepositive> PFA: im from Sydney Australia btw | |
| <PFA> just be a NORMAL troll and spam us iwth ASCII goatses | |
| <PFA> ok? | |
| <lifepositive> where are you guys from? | |
| <PFA> uh. | |
| <PFA> canada. | |
| <PFA> obviously. | |
| <bhearsum> Toronto | |
| <lifepositive> i hear canada can get very cold | |
| <lifepositive> bhearsum: never been there | |
| <bhearsum> that's not even smart trolling | |
| <PFA> it is not cold at all here | |
| <PFA> it gets cold in nunavut i guess | |
| <bhearsum> just rainy. | |
| <PFA> but also in norway and iceland | |
| <bhearsum> apparently over night we broke a 25 year old record for rainfall | |
| <PFA> yeah :S | |
| <bhearsum> where are you in the city? uptown/downtown? | |
| <PFA> scarberia :( | |
| <bhearsum> ick | |
| <bhearsum> i'm sorry ;( | |
| <bhearsum> :( | |
| * PFA mourns | |
| <bhearsum> i'm in the jewish corridor, bathurst/steeles | |
| <PFA> oh, i dont even know where that is :) | |
| <PFA> i'm really bad with streets @_@ | |
| <lifepositive> bhearsum: you jewish? | |
| <bhearsum> lifepositive: nope | |
| <PFA> i'm *just* learning which ones are north-south and which ones are east-west | |
| <bhearsum> PFA: the jewish corridor is basically bathurst/st. clair all the way up to bathurst/steeles | |
| <PFA> oh | |
| <bhearsum> bathurst is one major street west of yonge | |
| <lifepositive> bhearsum: ok | |
| <PFA> oh | |
| <PFA> my head hurts. i need a map. | |
| <bhearsum> maps.google.com | |
| <bhearsum> anyways | |
| <bhearsum> i'm off to bed | |
| <PFA> yeah :P i know | |
| <PFA> cya | |
| <bhearsum> nice meeting you both | |
| <lifepositive> bhearsum: ditto | |
| <lifepositive> :) | |
| <lifepositive> bhearsum: look under your bed first! may be bed monsters there ;) | |
| <PFA> bhearsum: don't accept that as the truth!! odn't come to any conclusions!! his information may be based on faulty data! | |
| <rexbron> I have a question, how would I have my server at home ssh into my webserver and do an rsync backup and automate the whole process? | |
| <tonyyarusso> You'd think rbil was being kept in Gitmo rather than just off #ubuntu | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, has that guy been sounding off again? Where? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Mailing list again.. :( | |
| <Madpilot> ah, just found it. I guess I should lift his bans, even if he is a little whiner who doesn't deserve to have them lifted | |
| <Madpilot> done | |
| <SpacePuppy> rofl... he is toooo much | |
| <SpacePuppy> noooo leave the ban in place Madpilot | |
| <Madpilot> nah, we did promise to pull it. Now he's got a chance to earn a shiny *NEW* ban, even better than the old one. <evil grin> | |
| * SpacePuppy covers his head with a small piece of carpet so that he can watch the fireworks without hurting his ears. | |
| <lifepositive> Madpilot: you crazy pilot ;) | |
| <Madpilot> I must be insane, I volunteered as an op in #ubuntu. | |
| <SpacePuppy> that's a pretty serious ban list in #ubuntu | |
| <Madpilot> it's a very big channel | |
| <SpacePuppy> i hope rbil don't find this chan | |
| <Madpilot> I'm an op here too. So is Burgundavia. | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Madpilot | |
| <Madpilot> boo | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o Madpilot | |
| <SpacePuppy> eeek | |
| <SpacePuppy> arf!!!! (the puppy has spoken!) | |
| <wikityler> hi all | |
| <Burgundavia> hey wikityler | |
| <lophyte> holy crap | |
| <lophyte> rbil just doesn't stop | |
| <Burgundavia> I just told him I would ban him, that should shut him up | |
| <wikityler> If ubuntu uses gnome, why is most of the software in 'add/remove...' for KDE? | |
| <lophyte> of course it won't | |
| <lophyte> then he'll just scream bloody murder some more | |
| <Burgundavia> wikityler: it isn't | |
| <lophyte> oh it isn't fair, it isn't fair | |
| <Burgundavia> lophyte: he can do that to the CC all he wants | |
| <Burgundavia> I am not terribly concerned | |
| <lophyte> neither am I | |
| <lophyte> I think its just counterproductive on our mailing list | |
| <Burgundavia> wikityler: which version of Ubuntu are you running? | |
| <Burgundavia> what are you likely seeing is there is a bunch of KDE stuff in main that is not installed by default and you might only be seeing the stuff in main | |
| <wikityler> 6.06 | |
| <Burgundavia> that is likely it | |
| <wikityler> what is main? | |
| <Burgundavia> all the kde stuff and all the gnome desktop stuff | |
| <Burgundavia> there is just a great deal more in the kde buncles | |
| <wikityler> ok. next question... | |
| <Burgundavia> shoot | |
| <wikityler> if everything freezes except the mouse, is it x windoes that is having issues? | |
| <wikityler> i can only move the mouse, but not click. and have to do a hard restart. and isn't application specific | |
| <Burgundavia> hmm | |
| <Burgundavia> likely | |
| <Burgundavia> however, that might be hardware | |
| <wikityler> happened three times after i installed the nvidia drivers from automatix | |
| <Burgundavia> right, there is your flaw | |
| <Burgundavia> remove automatix | |
| <wikityler> oh? | |
| <Burgundavia> remove those drivers | |
| <Burgundavia> automatix is very very bad | |
| <Burgundavia> install the drivers as described on help.ubuntu.com | |
| <wikityler> but i'm starving for codex :) | |
| <wikityler> what about easyubuntu? | |
| <Burgundavia> those are easy | |
| <Burgundavia> open add/remove | |
| <Burgundavia> search for gstreamer | |
| <Burgundavia> install | |
| <Burgundavia> nvidia might be tehre as well now | |
| <Burgundavia> nvidia is there now too | |
| <wikityler> if i uninstall automatix it will leave what it installed intact, right? | |
| <Burgundavia> yes it will | |
| <wikityler> ok | |
| <Burgundavia> but you need to run the following: | |
| <Burgundavia> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | |
| <wikityler> well automatix doesn't have a thing to remove itself it appears | |
| <Burgundavia> that is another problem with it | |
| <Burgundavia> I have no idea how to remove it | |
| <Burgundavia> ask in #automatix | |
| <wikityler> ok | |
| <robitaille_> humm...why do we have a reference to "kKing Elizabeth" in the topic? :) | |
| <Burgundavia> no idea | |
| *** Burgundavia changes topic to "Ubuntu Canada | Bienvenue à Ubuntu Canada | http://www.ubuntu.ca - Tell the Canadian government that DRM sucks: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1447&Itemid=125 || http://flagwavingbeaver.com/ - For pasting large amounts of text, please use a pastebin (e.g. www.pastebin.ca) |" | |
| <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia | |
| <robitaille_> you scared your brother away :) | |
| <Madpilot> Burgundavia, no hostmask? | |
| <Madpilot> robitaille, not the first time ;) | |
| <tonyyarusso> How do those work anyway? | |
| <Burgundavia> hmm | |
| <Burgundavia> reconnection | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, hostmasks? they're set by the Freenode server; Seveas sets the ubunt/member/$nick ones up. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: No, I mean like technically. Are they just matched to the nick and applied when you identify, or something else? | |
| <Burgundavia> yes, for identified nicks | |
| <tonyyarusso> Ah | |
| <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, yeah, you need to ident. | |
| <Burgundavia> need to be an Ubuntu member | |
| <Burgundavia> are you one yet, tonyyarusso? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Nope | |
| <Madpilot> that too | |
| * tonyyarusso is working on it...slowly | |
| <Burgundavia> have you created a wiki page? | |
| <Burgundavia> one really great way to get some instant work is the UWN | |
| <tonyyarusso> Yes, I have. I'd like to move a few of the "to do" items into the "have done" column. | |
| <Burgundavia> you might be good already | |
| <tonyyarusso> Yeah - is it too soon to start on the next UWN? | |
| <Burgundavia> link to your wikipage? | |
| <Burgundavia> nope, 22 is already created and has a bit on there | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TonyYarusso | |
| <Burgundavia> you have crazy huge karma | |
| <Burgundavia> I think you are good to go, issue is: no CC meetings right now | |
| <tonyyarusso> I've never understood karma :S | |
| <Burgundavia> your spec karma is much larger than mine | |
| <Burgundavia> mostly because mine is a year old | |
| <tonyyarusso> If the next one turns out to be a good day/timezone maybe I'll try to get in on that. If there's a meeting while I'm home for the holidays that might be more convenient, with the whole class thing. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Karma's misleading though, b/c you don't get any points for things like UWN and such. | |
| <Madpilot> karma is freakin' strange. Mine appears to change at random. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Now, if LP karma could incorporate wiki, mailing list, and IRC activity, that would be cool. | |
| <Burgundavia> karma is a secret sauce formula, which sucks | |
| <Burgundavia> it, like artwork and bling, is something Mark cares about a little too much | |
| * tonyyarusso doesn't see UWN 22 in the list | |
| <tonyyarusso> gobby.ubuntu.com is what we're using now, right? | |
| <tonyyarusso> I thought I'd heard that | |
| <Burgundavia> yes, but it has lag issues | |
| <Burgundavia> look on the wiki | |
| <Burgundavia> unless we are having a hack session, it is on the wiki | |
| <wikityler> burg: what will sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do for me? | |
| <Burgundavia> wikityler: allow you to go back to the vesa driver | |
| <wikityler> ok | |
| <Burgundavia> then you can remove that nvidia driver from your system | |
| <Burgundavia> and then install the clean one from the repos | |
| <wikityler> should i auto detect hardware, or select server and driver myself? | |
| <Burgundavia> let it autodetect | |
| <aanderse> hi burg | |
| <Burgundavia> hey aanderse | |
| <Burgundavia> you were looking for me? | |
| <aanderse> i saw your blog entry on ubuntu planet :\ | |
| <aanderse> that was the first i had heard about it ... | |
| <Burgundavia> ah | |
| <Burgundavia> not completely official yet | |
| <aanderse> oh | |
| <aanderse> well thats good ... hopefully whoever makes the decision will realize the reprecussions it could have | |
| <tonyyarusso> The drivers thing? | |
| <aanderse> yeah | |
| <tonyyarusso> There's a poll going on at the forums, "Include them", "don't", or "Choice on install". Last I saw 55% were for "choice on install", more on include than don't after that. | |
| <aanderse> choice on install woudln't be bad | |
| <aanderse> its just including it by default really sends a message to driver makers i think | |
| <Burgundavia> problem is, asking questions on install is bad | |
| <tonyyarusso> I'd rather have install questions than force something like that. | |
| <aanderse> yeah... thats true too | |
| <aanderse> hmmm | |
| <Burgundavia> most people don't enough knowledge to make an intelligent and informed decision | |
| <tonyyarusso> But, that's just me. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Thus leading to the question of when it says "If you don't know leave it at the default", which will that be? | |
| <Burgundavia> there is a clear default: no open source drivers | |
| <Burgundavia> no closed source, rather | |
| * Burgundavia is tired | |
| <aanderse> heh | |
| <tonyyarusso> My USB hard drive got recognized!! | |
| <Burgundavia> not shocked | |
| <tonyyarusso> It didn't the last couple of times I tried - it was very very weird. | |
| <oqp> you were plugging it wrong :P | |
| <aanderse> heh | |
| <wikityler> is gparted installed by default? it was on the live cd, but now that i installed, i can't find it. | |
| <aanderse> nope | |
| <aanderse> its only on the live cd | |
| <aanderse> you have to install it | |
| <wikityler> is there something else i can use to format flash drives, and sd cards? | |
| <Burgundavia> gparted will do it | |
| <aanderse> gparted is pretty sweet | |
| <aanderse> i've never used such a great partitioning program | |
| <aanderse> i don't think fdisk can even resize partitions | |
| <aanderse> so ... | |
| <wikityler> ive always used PM before, but i shure like gparted | |
| <aanderse> :) | |
| <aanderse> well you're just one sudo apt-get gparted away ;-) | |
| <aanderse> actually i just installed edgy onto my second box, thanks for reminding me | |
| * aanderse installs gparted | |
| <tonyyarusso> I should really LVMify my laptop so I don't keep having to do everything over when I get bored of my partition setup and change things up | |
| <aanderse> i find a solid setup is seperate *da1 =/home, *da2=/boot, *da3=swap, *da4=extended, *da5+=/ for os's | |
| <tonyyarusso> Yeah, I add a partition for music and downloads | |
| <aanderse> ah, yeah i just keep them in /home | |
| <aanderse> heh | |
| <aanderse> but on my second computer ... | |
| <aanderse> so sorta like what you do | |
| <aanderse> heh | |
| <wikityler> what was that? | |
| <tonyyarusso> !netsplit | |
| <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | |
| <Madpilot> netslat | |
| <Madpilot> netsplat, rather ;) | |
| <wikityler> meh, ok. | |
| <wikityler> so should sudo apt-get gparted install gparted for me? | |
| <Madpilot> !info gparted | |
| <ubotu> gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB | |
| <Madpilot> yes, it will | |
| <wikityler> tyler@hotcat:~$ sudo apt-get gparted | |
| <wikityler> Password: | |
| <wikityler> E: Invalid operation gparted | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: sudo apt-get install gparted | |
| <tonyyarusso> You forgot install | |
| <wikityler> ok | |
| <wikityler> never used apt-get before (or most of linux for that matter) | |
| <Burgundavia> wikityler: then do this: | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: In that case, while you don't necessarily need it today, keep the 'man' command in mind - it's pretty amazing. | |
| <wikityler> well that is amazing! | |
| <Burgundavia> applications --> add/remove | |
| <Burgundavia> search for gparted | |
| <tonyyarusso> (and meanwhile, do it that way ^^) | |
| <wikityler> nothing comes up | |
| <tonyyarusso> !info gparted | |
| <ubotu> gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB | |
| <tonyyarusso> hrm | |
| <wikityler> what is the 'man' command? | |
| <Burgundavia> hmm, odd | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: It tells you all sorts of info about what a particular command does and how to use it. | |
| <Madpilot> !cli | |
| <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands | |
| <Burgundavia> you are right | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: For instance, for this case, 'man apt-get' would be the ticket. More info on man of course is 'man man'. | |
| <Burgundavia> wonder why | |
| <Madpilot> wikityler, have a look at the wiki URL the bot just gave ^^^ | |
| <tonyyarusso> it has QTparted, but not G | |
| <wikityler> well im impressed | |
| <Madpilot> what with? | |
| <wikityler> thats up there with Ctrl-Tab | |
| <tonyyarusso> Even if Add/Remove doesn't have it, Synaptic always will, btw | |
| <wikityler> the man thing | |
| <Madpilot> "man man" for further info | |
| <aanderse> hmm i wonder if my usb remote is working | |
| <tonyyarusso> So simple, yet such a vast resource | |
| <aanderse> woop woop! | |
| <tonyyarusso> You programmed a remote to say woop woop? | |
| * tonyyarusso wants to get lirc working | |
| <Madpilot> doesn't 'woop woop' mean 'this unit will self-destruct in X seconds'? ;) | |
| <aanderse> "woop woop" means it works | |
| <aanderse> ps. do any of you live in toronto? | |
| <wikityler> is lirc hard to get working, once i get the reciever built that will be on my list of things to do | |
| <tonyyarusso> aanderse: Ptbo, so closeish kinda | |
| <aanderse> i plugged usb remote control in and it worked | |
| <aanderse> ptbo? | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: It's been fussy for me | |
| <wikityler> Hmm. my new 1gb SD card is only 976Mb | |
| <tonyyarusso> aanderse: Peterborough, which is clearly to long to type out. | |
| <tonyyarusso> *too | |
| <aanderse> right | |
| <aanderse> ah i have a buddy in school at trent | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: That's a "hard drive manufacturer" GB. | |
| <tonyyarusso> aanderse: Sweet, what program? I'm physics. | |
| <wikityler> ya. like my 120gb hdd. | |
| <tonyyarusso> (+ concurrent ed) | |
| <aanderse> ah he's in history/english | |
| <aanderse> cool | |
| <aanderse> what year are you in? | |
| <tonyyarusso> 2 | |
| <aanderse> cool, i'm in 4th at western | |
| <aanderse> can't wait to be done -_- | |
| <Madpilot> night all - need sleep. getting up at 0550 sucketh mightily. | |
| <lophyte> beefsprocket: I finished the navigation bar | |
| <SpacePuppy> arf! (The puppy has spoken!) | |
| <Bilange> quack! (The duck has spoken) | |
| <lophyte> hey folks | |
| <wikityler> with all these nvidia drivers, is the s-vhs output supported? | |
| <bradley> hello. | |
| <bradley> i have to do some typing and being the lazy (energy conservationist) that i am i have been looking for one of those programs that you speak into a mic and it types for you. | |
| <bradley> does anyone know of one --i am checking into something by IBM | |
| <lophyte> hey jamonation | |
| <jamonation> hey there | |
| <lophyte> how's it going? | |
| <jamonation> sucks that there are two of me | |
| <lophyte> lol | |
| <jamonation> messing with amarok and my website, trying to get consistent display of now playing image | |
| <lophyte> I'm hacking away on foodforge again | |
| <jamonation> then it's on to drupal 50 and contemplate, got it working? | |
| <jamonation> cool | |
| <lophyte> I'm gonna set up cck/contemplate in a sec | |
| <jamonation> you think contemplate will work on 5? | |
| <jamonation> I'm hopeful | |
| <lophyte> does cck work? | |
| <jamonation> i think so, it shows up in the module config screen | |
| <jamonation> haven't made it that far yet | |
| <jamonation> (creating a content type that is) | |
| <lophyte> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ | |
| <lophyte> we should use that for the recipes | |
| <jamonation> yeah that works | |
| <jamonation> pretty close to gpl isn't it? | |
| <lophyte> yeah | |
| <jamonation> though of course gpl is for software mostly? | |
| <lophyte> yeah, that's why we can't use GPL | |
| <jamonation> ah, wasn't clear on how that worked | |
| <jamonation> cool, good to know | |
| <lophyte> but attribution-sharealike is pretty much the same thing | |
| <jamonation> sounds like it, designed to be as flexible as possible | |
| <lophyte> alright.. going to set up contemplate and see what I can do with it | |
| <lophyte> with drupal 4.7 | |
| <jamonation> cool | |
| <jamonation> you like 4.7 for foodforge? | |
| <lophyte> yeah | |
| <jamonation> seems like it will be around for along time | |
| <lophyte> 4.7+administration module is excellent | |
| <jamonation> did you see joomla and drupal tied in the cms rankings thing? | |
| <lophyte> nope | |
| <jamonation> lol, now that you've finally found it ;) | |
| <jamonation> http://drupal.org/node/97519 | |
| <jamonation> well, ok, it got 2nd | |
| <jamonation> but you'll understand | |
| <lophyte> the navigation bar uses drupal's builtin menu system.. and I created and administration page for it, so you can select which menu you'd like it to use | |
| <Burgundavia> lophyte: be aware that the cc licenses are considered non-free by debian, if you are planning to have this distributed | |
| <lophyte> Burgundavia: they're recipes :P | |
| <Burgundavia> ok, that works | |
| <jamonation> lol | |
| <jamonation> can't be too careful | |
| <lophyte> ugh.. | |
| <lophyte> i keep getting DB errors | |
| <jamonation> badness | |
| <jamonation> postgresql? | |
| <lophyte> I think the modules screwed it up | |
| <jamonation> did you try them one at a time? | |
| * jamonation killed me | |
| <jamonation> any idea why a machine of mine won't allow ssh login from my home machine, but it will from another? | |
| <jamonation> hosts file is clean | |
| <Simon80> it rejects it? or is it a network issue? | |
| <jamonation> it's like the machine isn't even there | |
| <asincron> bones algu sap perque s'han retirat els repositoris d'enlightenment 0.16 i dr17? | |
| <Simon80> jamonation: try using the machine's external IP | |
| <Simon80> I'm no networking guru | |
| <jamonation> Simon80: yeah, tried it, tried changing ports too, no luck | |
| <jamonation> gotta dist-upgrade and reboot anyways, who know what'll happen | |
| <Simon80> lol | |
| <Simon80> yeah | |
| <Simon80> going to edgy? | |
| <jamonation> asincron: http://edevelop.org/ubuntu edgy e17 n'est fonctionnement? | |
| <jamonation> Simon80: yeah | |
| <jamonation> done it on others, this machine is the last holdout | |
| <jamonation> an aching 400mhz apache2/exim4 server | |
| <Simon80> ah | |
| <Simon80> I have a 667 like that, on dapper | |
| <Simon80> not gonna bother though | |
| <jamonation> heh | |
| <Simon80> it's LTS, and the machine is just web, maybe apache, I think it's not worth the trouble | |
| <Simon80> that's the problem with 4 month release window, lol | |
| <Simon80> but edgy boot process is nice | |
| <Simon80> just discovered parallel boot in gentoo cause of that | |
| <Simon80> but alas, coldplug slows that down like mad, ubuntu's process is better I thin | |
| <Simon80> k | |
| <Simon80> if I understand it, runlevels are somewhat gone | |
| <jamonation> i think they are still there in terms of directory structure and files names | |
| <Simon80> yeah | |
| <jamonation> but the scripts are all asynchronous now | |
| <Simon80> but I mean, during boot, they might have stopped dividing startups into runlevels | |
| <Simon80> like in gentoo, if coldplug takes a year, everything holds up, and then rl3 is entered, and a bunch of services are started there | |
| <Simon80> basically, I hate coldplug | |
| <jamonation> oh ok | |
| <Simon80> but I'm too lazy to see how to speed up or replace it | |
| <jamonation> initng is nice | |
| <jamonation> not sure if it runs on gentoo | |
| <Simon80> prolly not yet | |
| <Simon80> hmm, there's an installation howto, interesting | |
| <Simon80> gentoo uses /sbin/runscript to run these things, and they have their own way of organising them and everything, so I'd be surprised if this replaces that quickly | |
| <jamonation> ah | |
| <Simon80> ooh, parallel init usage is kinda simple, you just have separate grub entries | |
| <Simon80> still not mainstream gentoo though.. | |
| <Simon80> and that's the thing, I'm too lazy nowadays to worry about this stuff, my linux learning spree is over and I'm trying to focus on doing constructive stuff instead of micromanagement | |
| <jamonation> i.e. not optimize a million gcc flags? | |
| <Simon80> not that, I just use -O2 -march=athlon64 | |
| <Simon80> but setting up these things | |
| <Simon80> I didn't have to set up initng to use it in ubuntu | |
| <Simon80> and whatever improvements they roll out get included | |
| <jamonation> all i did with ubutnu was change my fstab to not run fsck on 400gb worth of discs... | |
| <jamonation> starts nice and fast (edgy64) | |
| <jamonation> hey lophyte, can't get cck working with 5.0 and postgres, you had any luck with that? | |
| <asincron> gracies i la versió 0.16? | |
| * tonyyarusso tries to determine what language that is...and merely guesses French has half a shot since this is -ca, so stumbles around ubotu blindly | |
| <jamonation> asincron: apt-cache show enlightenment | |
| <tonyyarusso> Or jamonation could understand it ;) | |
| <jamonation> just using etymological guesses | |
| <asincron> les dues opcions que m'has donat desgraciadament no m'han funcionat | |
| <asincron> a tu et funciona?El paquet enlightenment no té versió disponible, però un altre paquet | |
| <asincron> en fa referència. Això normalment vol dir que el paquet falta, | |
| <asincron> s'ha tornat obsolet o només és disponible des d'una altra font. | |
| <asincron> Tot i que els següents paquets el reemplacen: | |
| <jamonation> enlevez la ligne pour enlightenment17 de sources.list? | |
| <jamonation> et apt-get update | |
| <asincron> gracies de nou | |
| <jamonation> how long was I out? lol | |
| <Bilange> 4 mins | |
| <tonyyarusso> Has anyone seen ryanakca recently? | |
| <wikityler> anyone around? | |
| <wikityler> is it possible to set a custom display resolution and refresh rate? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Yeah, if you need something other than what's available after install, see: | |
| <tonyyarusso> !fixres | |
| <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto |