| <roth-laptop> surely MS does nto have %70 of the "server " market | |
| <adhoc_> australian open source developement can not afford to have software patents introduced | |
| <hysterio> yeah I was thinking the same - on what planet is this? | |
| <roth-laptop> LOL | |
| <roth-laptop> i mean real servers not some pos web server in the corner store | |
| <adhoc_> roth-laptop: no, their defenition of server is different to our | |
| <hysterio> m$ - server: machine that runs exchange | |
| <hysterio> allow +-30% margin for error | |
| <adhoc_> i don't kow how they get their stats, must be a very narrow slice of the econmony | |
| <onefang> M$ server - anything used by a spammer to send spam. | |
| <roth-laptop> hahah | |
| <hysterio> im sure there are some open relays out there running linux | |
| <hysterio> 20% seems a bit high though :) | |
| <adhoc_> we have seen a four fold increase in the ammount of spam hitting our mail servers in the last six months | |
| <adhoc_> we only accept 4.5% of mail that comes in | |
| <roth-laptop> lawd | |
| <adhoc_> 50% is blocked on reputation filters alone | |
| <hysterio> adhoc: that seems to be par for the course | |
| <adhoc_> 1% is virus or trojan | |
| <roth-laptop> i wonder what %of internet traffic is just rubbish | |
| <hysterio> adhoc: its weird - i remember when I virus/trojan stuff was much higher | |
| <adhoc_> the rest is spam rejected in the mail conversation | |
| <hysterio> like 2 years ago | |
| <adhoc_> things change so fast | |
| <adhoc_> anyhow we need to scarper and get food for the fourlegs and Ai2 parts | |
| <adhoc_> and people food, and lots of exercise, doing the same trip with out a car | |
| <adhoc_> will take some time =) | |
| <hysterio> roth-laptop: i read somewhere recently that 95% of email traffic is now spam (i think it was spamhaus) | |
| <adhoc_> hysterio: thats what we see | |
| <roth-laptop> cloging my internets | |
| <hysterio> people are a sometimes food... | |
| <hysterio> roth-laptop: its not like a truck... | |
| <adhoc_> spammers should be made aware they are food for pigs | |
| <adhoc_> its only a matter of time | |
| <adhoc_> byee | |
| <hysterio> cya | |
| <adhoc_> 10:24 < Tate> they're all open standards | |
| <roth-laptop> arg stupid noisy tower | |
| <roth-laptop> SHUSH | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hi peeps. | |
| <Phlosten> yo | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So what "intellectual property" does Ballmer want GNU/Linux users tp ay for? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *to pay | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum: you find out and you have won the million dollar question of the day | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Steve is an idiot though. | |
| <Phlosten> i dont think idiot is a strong enough word | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> We need to create a new word, just for him. | |
| <Phlosten> he is smart when it comes to screwing people over, beyond idiotic when it comes to community standards | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> That's what M$ looks for in a CEO. | |
| <hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: an idiot at the helm of a company with a market capitalization of 280 billion dollars | |
| <purserj> Phlosten: you're comparing apples to silicon nodules. Completely different world views | |
| * Davo_Dinkum vomits | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I think the Novell deal is just M$'s way of getting rid of GNU/Linux for good. | |
| <Phlosten> dang | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Not that they haven't tried before. | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum: its just a major scare tactic, its what corporates live on | |
| <Phlosten> the question is, will the world buy it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> They bought M$ software and DRM infected iPods. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And DVDs. | |
| <siccness> Yes, but we didn't. | |
| <siccness> So that's 30 odd million vs 6 billion | |
| <siccness> I think we can win. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Where did you pull those figures from? | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: they bought MS software when there really wasn't anything else around and DVDs cos even with the sucky implementation it still kicks all over video | |
| <hysterio> another theory is that they are creating Microsoft Linux... a nice safe alternative for those PHBs who want to try out this new fangled linux thang. They try it, it sucks, they go back to redmond | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Saw a link with $30million linux users on some graph, not accurate but good enough | |
| <purserj> hysterio: they're are doing a SCO 2.0 | |
| <hysterio> yup | |
| <purserj> the line is almost exactly the same | |
| <Phlosten> wasnt MS behind that too? | |
| <siccness> ms linux would be windows with gnome running on it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> purserj: Again, people buy things based on technical advantage and don't stop to look at the long-term effects buying such a product could have. | |
| <hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: I think you over estimate the buying public | |
| <siccness> ^ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Probably, but there are still people out their that do that. | |
| <purserj> sorry "long term effects" what is the thing of which you speak | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> DRM getting worse, etc | |
| <Phlosten> long term effects, bugger that we cre more interested in short term stock exchange | |
| <Phlosten> are | |
| <hysterio> purserj: I agree on the SCO 2.0 thing | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stock exchanges blow. They are geared towards making money for shareholders, at any cost. | |
| <hysterio> purserj: just throwing out some other things I've heard around ;) | |
| <Phlosten> is there anyone that has written positive comments about the deal? | |
| <hysterio> microsoft and novell? :P | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum: welcome to the world which is bought and sold in stock exchanges, *sigh* | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio: anyone else? | |
| <siccness> UMG sues Myspace, bahaha | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pfft who cares? Another RIAA lawsuit. | |
| <siccness> I'm sure somone in the entirity of this planet cares. | |
| <hysterio> Phlosten: I've seen some stuff, didnt take much notice though.. if i find it ill let you know | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> UMG and myspace don't count. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stock exchanges shouldn't exist. Then listed companies might behave more ethicaly. | |
| <hysterio> Phlosten: with the SCO/microsoft thing, do a search for baystar capital | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *ethically. | |
| <lifepositive> hello | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hi. | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: hi | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: whenever I boot Ubuntu, I dont ever type: sudo /etc/init.d/tor start or sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy start , however, Tor is running and so is privoxy. How is that possible? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I have no idea about tor or privoxy. Ask someone else or ask in #ubuntu | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: ah ok! sorry, I didnt know you were a beginner too | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No problem. | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio: indeed | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> They are probably already running because they have been set up to run when ubuntu boots up. | |
| <lifepositive> anyone know how I can check to see what services and programs are running? | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: where can I see that? | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: cause they are in yout startup init scripts | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Type: top | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: where can I read whats in my startup init scripts? | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: top doesnt show them running, but I know they must be | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah sorry I was thinking of soemthing else. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *something | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: ps -A | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: top only shows the top processes running | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: ps -A | grep tor | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: ps -A | grep privoxy | |
| <lifepositive> ok let me tyry that | |
| <lifepositive> brb | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: type "ps -A" ? | |
| <Phlosten> yes | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: according to this, tor and privoxy are runnuing! but I never started the services, so how cna thye be runnng? | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: what started them automitcally? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The startup script! | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: when you installed them they would have atuomatically been setup to start as a service | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: it says: 4468 ? 00:00:00 privoxy | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: how can I read what starts up as a services and change it? | |
| <TheMuso> Argh. How does one turn on and off packet forwarding? Its something /proc somewhere is it not? | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: any ideas? | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: eg, lets say I want to remove them from starting as a service when Ubuntu boots, how would I do that? | |
| <TheMuso> ah think I've found it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why install tor if you don't want to use it? | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: you could remove the reference to it from the respective runlevel directory in your /etc/ ie /rc0.d, rc1.d. you might want to google init scripts and do some research first | |
| <hysterio> TheMuso: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | |
| <TheMuso> hysterio: Thanks. | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: your question is rather ignorant, and shall in responce be ignored ;) | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: ok cheers | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: there is an interface for altering the runlevel services, cant think of it off hand | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: because I only want to run tor on certain days | |
| <siccness> Phlosten: SysV? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh OK. | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: can you let me know if you remember it? | |
| <hysterio> lifepositive: you could try sysv-rc-conf | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: :) | |
| <lifepositive> hysterio: run "sysv-rc-conf" ? | |
| <hysterio> you may need to install it. | |
| <siccness> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf | |
| <Phlosten> ah yeah, thats it | |
| <Phlosten> anyway, things to do, cya all | |
| <lifepositive> ok cheers | |
| <lifepositive> brb | |
| <lifepositive> hysterio: for example, I have HP printing services rtunning all the time! can i remove it from running with sysv-rc-conf? | |
| <lifepositive> as I dont have an HP printer | |
| <lifepositive> in fact I dont have a printer at all :) | |
| <siccness> Yes | |
| <hysterio> just untick them | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> HP printers suck. | |
| <lifepositive> hysterio: ty | |
| <lifepositive> Davo_Dinkum: heh ;) | |
| <lifepositive> siccness: ok cheers, thanks | |
| <hysterio> lifepositive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitScriptList | |
| <hysterio> should give you some ideas of what you need to leave and what you can get rid of | |
| <lifepositive> hysterio: cheers | |
| <lifepositive> what does "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" do? | |
| <TheMuso> Anybody here had experience with ethernet bridging? | |
| <hysterio> Davo_Dinkum: HP Printers suck how? | |
| <hysterio> TheMuso: what are you trying to do? | |
| <TheMuso> hysterio: I have set up an ethernet bridge, but the computer that I am setting up to get to the network can only get an IP address. Nothing else works. | |
| <TheMuso> It also seems to just sit there when trying to get DNs information. | |
| <TheMuso> That was why i was wondering about packet forwarding. | |
| <TheMuso> I thought that would help, but it hasn't. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> They are slow. | |
| <hysterio> Im kinda fond of the laserjets - they are pricey, but they work with citrix and dont break down too often | |
| <hysterio> ive found toshiba drivers like to cause metaframe servers to bluescreen | |
| <hysterio> and sharp drivers are just plain shit | |
| <purserj> citrix dies cos of printer drivers? | |
| <hysterio> yes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone in here got a Sharp Zaurus? | |
| <purserj> and they charge how much? | |
| <hysterio> newer versions are more forgiving | |
| <hysterio> purserj: printing on citrix sucks. I havent tried the latest citrix (got the licences, havent had the time to upgrade), but on the earlier versions print drivers could be lethal | |
| <hysterio> purserj: you'd be surprised how little you get for your money :( | |
| <hysterio> TheMuso: not sure... http://www.linux.com/howtos/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.shtml might give you some clues | |
| <TheMuso> thanks | |
| <merlin-linux> afternoon all | |
| <hysterio> gday | |
| <lifepositive> c/elar | |
| *** fildo is now known as fild0 | |
| *** fild0 is now known as fildo | |
| <TheMuso> hysterio: thats pretty much what I've done. An ethernet bridge only does transfer of ethernet suff. It shouldn't have anything to do with IP. I find it weird though that dhcp works but noting else. | |
| <TheMuso> Probably somewhere else in the chain | |
| <hysterio> yeah | |
| *** fildo is now known as fild0 | |
| *** fild0 is now known as fildo | |
| <lifepositive> hysterio: how are you? | |
| <hysterio> im not bad.. yourself? | |
| * roth-laptop throws a shoe at the server box ! | |
| * dsas throws cricket ball at server box | |
| <dsas> howzat? | |
| <roth-laptop> damn case O_O i droped it off the bench and it sort of vibrates out of shape and makes a hell of a noise | |
| <roth-laptop> and ive droped out again ?? | |
| <roth-laptop> dammit | |
| <elkbuntu> yes, you're not here. sorry. | |
| <roth-laptop> ive got my tech going over my modem as we speak | |
| <siccness> is there an application to find out where the network data is being transferred to? | |
| <siccness> or where you're receiving data from | |
| <adhoc_> man its hot | |
| <jml> hello again | |
| <jml> still no wifi. I've posted to the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773683). Please help a fellow aussie out :) | |
| <lifepositive> I keep getting a "550 failed to change directory" when using Firefox 2.0! Any ideas? | |
| <merlin-linux> afternoon all | |
| <lifepositive> my DVD drive wont read DVD but it still reads Audio CD! Do DVD drives come with 2 lasers, one for reading DVD and the other for reading CD? | |
| <bokey> merlin-linux: =) | |
| <siccness> How f'ing hot is it :| | |
| <adhoc_> 10:24 < Tate> they're all open standards | |
| <adhoc_> oops | |
| <hysterio> lol | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: yeah it 29C here | |
| <siccness> 28C here | |
| <adhoc_> how did that happen | |
| <siccness> adhoc_: that was like 18hrs ago | |
| <adhoc_> plenty hot enough | |
| <merlin-linux> hey everyone i named my cockatiel "Apache" | |
| <siccness> why not lighthttpd? | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <merlin-linux> Apache is cause he like to fly | |
| <siccness> cool | |
| <siccness> i want a bird that says what i says | |
| <merlin-linux> and my cockatiel only about 5 weeks old | |
| <siccness> but doesnt annoy me | |
| <merlin-linux> lol | |
| <siccness> i reckon thats mad how a bird can repeat what a human says | |
| <merlin-linux> cockatiels are very smart birds | |
| <siccness> but when im rich, im gonna setup a colony of penguins in my backyard | |
| <siccness> big emperor penguins | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: kewl | |
| <siccness> except they regurgitate their food for the young penguins :| | |
| <siccness> so thats a little on the disgusting side | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: well don't get drunk and pass out in the backyard then | |
| <merlin-linux> lol | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> http://www.home.gil.com.au/~rodnmaria/images/IMG_2133.jpg <--haha, how fat is it | |
| <merlin-linux> it just fluffed up | |
| <siccness> too many beers for that penguin me thinks | |
| <merlin-linux> lol | |
| *** fildo is now known as fild0 | |
| <siccness> ThePizzaKing: How'd the exams go? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> siccness: Yeah, good thanks, I finished about 10 days ago | |
| <ThePizzaKing> I'm meant to be down at Rye partying with my friends. But I came back for my other friends party tonight. | |
| <siccness> Heh, Rye is no good. | |
| <siccness> It's ok for like 3 or 4 days | |
| <ThePizzaKing> We mostly watch lots of DVDs | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> Step back, ThePizzaKing is ThePartyKing too! | |
| <ThePizzaKing> um, yeah, that's right | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <siccness> What part of Rye? | |
| <siccness> Near main street? | |
| <ThePizzaKing> It's a bit past the main town | |
| <ThePizzaKing> about 800metres off the main road | |
| <siccness> I'm asuming after the "do-it-yourself" car-wash. | |
| <ThePizzaKing> Probably, I saw Wash written on the road near the beach somewhere | |
| <siccness> Yah | |
| <jml> hello | |
| <merlin-linux> jml: hi | |
| <jml> hello merlin-linux | |
| <jml> so, I'm still having probs with my wifi. | |
| <bokey> merlin-linux: =) | |
| <jml> it's quite frustrating -- I can't even figure out where the problem is. I'm running out of options. | |
| <siccness> sweet, set up a mediawiki :) | |
| <jml> siccness: no :) | |
| <siccness> I was actually saying that I just setup one. | |
| <jml> siccness: oh, cool :) | |
| <jml> siccness: sorry for being tetchy :) | |
| <siccness> No problem :) | |
| <merlin-linux> jml: what WiFi card are you trying to setup | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: a bcm4306 (inside a powerbook) | |
| <merlin-linux> k | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: it can scan for networks, but it can't connect to any | |
| <jml> (encryption level doesn't seem to matter) | |
| <merlin-linux> oh | |
| <jml> I've tried with a couple of different known-to-be-working access points. | |
| <merlin-linux> have you got network-manager installed | |
| <jml> and also I've tried with wifi-radar and network-manager. netiher gives me any joy | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: yeah, network-manager is installed atm. | |
| <merlin-linux> ah :-( | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: the available wireless networks appear in the pulldown, but when I try to connect to one, it takes a very long time (syslog mentions timeouts) and then reverts to the wired connection | |
| <merlin-linux> oh | |
| <merlin-linux> my wireless just works | |
| <jml> :) | |
| <jml> looking on the forums, people seem to have wireless that either just works or just doesn't work. | |
| <merlin-linux> you have not get any silly setting in the System --> Administration --> Networking for the wireless connection | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: it's unconfigured in there | |
| <pschulz01> Anyone know how to change the 'modified date' on a file? | |
| <jml> and there are no entries for my wireless card in /etc/network/interfaces | |
| <jml> pschulz01: touch <file> | |
| <merlin-linux> i got the intel 3945a/b/g in my laptop and it just works great | |
| <jml> pschulz01: it takes a -d option if you want a time other than now. | |
| <pschulz01> jml: I want to set the modifed time stamp 'back'. | |
| <pschulz01> jml: Ahh.. thanks. | |
| <jml> pschulz01: np :) | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: so, I'm trying to figure out what I can do from here. | |
| <pschulz01> jml: That works a treat! | |
| <merlin-linux> jml: this what my interface file looks like >>> http://pastebin.ca/251472 | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: I guess one of eth0 or eth1 is your wireless card? | |
| <merlin-linux> eth0 wired and eth1 wireless | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: that setup probably wouldn't work for me. | |
| <jml> at least, ifconfig, iwconfig and dhclient don't let me connect. | |
| <merlin-linux> jml: my interface file is very basic | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: I noticed :) | |
| <merlin-linux> it cause i have my own dhcp server at home | |
| <jml> merlin-linux: a computer or a device? | |
| <merlin-linux> computer | |
| <jml> how might I find other ubuntu powerbook users to talk to? | |
| <pschulz01> jml: I have a minimac.. powerpc | |
| <jml> pschulz01: do you have a working wireless setup? | |
| * jml tries upgrading to feisty -- maybe it has the answers | |
| <pschulz01> jml: WAN not local wireless. | |
| <jml> pschulz01: hmm. | |
| <jml> oops. | |
| <jml> so, I'm not sure if these got through: | |
| <jml> is there anyone in .au who offers commercial support for ubuntu? | |
| <jml> and, while I'm in dollars-for-solutions mode, is there anyone in .au like system76? | |
| <elkbuntu> system76 actually sells to aussies, jml | |
| <jml> cool | |
| <AlexC> is dev here? | |
| <elkbuntu> i met the guys at the developer summit last week. awesome guys | |
| <jml> how do we plug their foreign contrivances into our good clean power sources? | |
| <elkbuntu> a $5 converter plug ;) | |
| <jml> elkbuntu: fair enough. | |
| <elkbuntu> they may even have a variety of power units, i dont know | |
| <jml> thanks. | |
| <purserj> jml: have a look at the marketplace on ubuntu.com There are many who support ubuntu | |
| <elkbuntu> jml, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/UbuntuFriendlyNotebooks | |
| <jml> elkbuntu: thanks | |
| <siccness> netsplitttt maaaate! | |
| <AlexC> is dev here now? | |
| <elkbuntu> dev? | |
| <elkbuntu> AlexC, is 'dev' a person? | |
| <AlexC> yes | |
| <AlexC> i told him to meet me here | |
| <AlexC> how are you elkbuntu? | |
| <elkbuntu> well, if he comes on, he'll appear in the nicks list | |
| <elkbuntu> i'm recovering from a flu, but otherwise ok | |
| <siccness> There is an individual with the nickname 'dev' on freenode. | |
| <AlexC> where? | |
| <elkbuntu> AlexC, has this dev person used freenode before? | |
| <siccness> type /whois dev | |
| <AlexC> i don't think | |
| <elkbuntu> or /ns info dev | |
| <elkbuntu> i doubt this is the dev you're waiting for then | |
| <siccness> I doubt this too. I'm asuming 'dev' is a registered nickname | |
| <AlexC> i'm going to email him | |
| <Tate> fella's | |
| <siccness> Tate | |
| <Tate> hi siccness | |
| <Tate> siccness? | |
| <siccness> Oh, sorry, "Tate" was just my way of saying hello. | |
| <siccness> What's up though? | |
| <Tate> oh right | |
| <Tate> hah, just looking at some themes | |
| <siccness> As am I actually. | |
| <siccness> Themes/Skins for mediawiki to be exact. | |
| <Tate> I'm theming my desktop | |
| <siccness> Nice | |
| <Tate> I wonder if it's possible to use GNOME + OpenBox + Beryl | |
| <Tate> I don't think it is | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <jml> so, just letting y'all know that I'm giving up w/ ubuntu on this laptop. | |
| <jml> thanks for all the help | |
| <siccness> Oh, why's that mate? | |
| <jml> siccness: can't get wireless working | |
| <siccness> Oh, sorry to hear mate. There are other sources for support, have you tried #ubuntu, ubuntuforums or even just a general linux forum? | |
| <jml> I've tried #ubuntu | |
| <jml> but I've not received much help. | |
| <siccness> What wireless device is it? | |
| <jml> I've posted to the forums, but no one has responded yet. | |
| <jml> it's a bcm4306 (airport extreme) | |
| <siccness> What's the link to the forum thread? | |
| <jml> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301958 | |
| <jml> I know I haven't given the thread much time, but I won't have time to do any hacking tomorrow, and I need my laptop working for monday. | |
| <siccness> :| | |
| <siccness> So you can see it but cannot connect :| | |
| <jml> right | |
| <siccness> What does syslog show? | |
| <jml> siccness: lots of stuff from wpasupplicant | |
| <jml> siccness: I'm booted into OS X (off my external backup), so I can't pull it up right now | |
| <jml> essentially it's a timeout message | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <siccness> What laptop is it? | |
| <jml> siccness: powerbook g4 | |
| <jml> I think 1.33ghz, but I can't really remember. | |
| <jml> siccness: people have got this to work. | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <siccness> Yeah, I can't really seem to find much information on it. | |
| <siccness> Sorry champ :| | |
| <jml> no worries. | |
| <Tate> I've got an iBook that had Ubuntu on it. Wireless worked fine | |
| <jml> if someone responds with something concrete (like an actual diagnosis of the problem) | |
| <jml> then maybe I'll try again | |
| <jml> Tate: yeah, I hear that a lot :) | |
| <Tate> PPC annoys me, in all honesty | |
| <jml> what annoys me is that I have to care. | |
| <merlin-linux> back | |
| <adhoc_> jml: i got that wireless card working | |
| <adhoc_> try the cafuego bcm43xx repo | |
| <jml> adhoc_: you mean, build the modules myself? | |
| <adhoc_> remove the ndiswrapper rubbish | |
| <adhoc_> and just install the lastest kernel from ubuntu and get the firmware from the cafuego repo | |
| <adhoc_> its a .deb, just install it | |
| <adhoc_> add the entry to your /etc/apt/sources.list file | |
| <jml> adhoc_: *nod* | |
| <adhoc_> that make sense ? | |
| <adhoc_> google for cafuego dapper bcm43 | |
| <adhoc_> jml: and install NetworkMaanger | |
| <jml> adhoc_: yeah. but is the firmware in that repo different from the firmware linked to by ... | |
| <adhoc_> works a treat | |
| * jml looks for link | |
| <adhoc_> jml: yes, but cafuego's one works | |
| <adhoc_> cafuego is t3h rox0R =D | |
| <jml> wl_aptsa.o | |
| <jml> adhoc_: interesting. I will try that. | |
| <adhoc_> do, it will bring you much joy | |
| <jml> although, unfortunately, it will have to be later, because I have already begun restoring os x | |
| * jml jots down urls | |
| <adhoc_> ah, PPC ? | |
| <jml> yeah | |
| <adhoc_> can't remember if that works, check the notes on the site | |
| <adhoc_> bbl | |
| <jml> well, it says it is supported | |
| <jfrench> Happy weekend all! | |
| <merlin-linux> ditto | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya jfrench | |
| <jfrench> Hows it goen | |
| <merlin-linux> not bad thx and you? | |
| <jfrench> Not to shabby, feeling pretty good today. | |
| <merlin-linux> :-) | |
| <jfrench> Hey, What is a good proggy to video capture my desktop? Easy to use and is preferably open source | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hi. | |
| <jfrench> howdy | |
| <AlexC> are you Dev? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Me? No. | |
| <AlexC> ok | |
| <AlexC> sorry | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why did you think that? | |
| <hantu> he's Dav! | |
| <hantu> beware! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why should people be aware of me? | |
| <hantu> ive no idea, don't ask me, ask siccness | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Sure whateve. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> r | |
| <hantu> :P | |
| <merlin-linux> ni hao hantu | |
| <cafuego> adhoc_: for the record, ppc works fine. I use it on the ibook | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How sad: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/but_before_I_start_let_me_thank_someone_important | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Can anyone here read Spanish? >>> http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/16/1750214 | |
| * cafuego cna read it. but doesn't understand it | |
| <purserj> cafuego: dutch parliament just announced they're going to be banning the burqha | |
| <Phlosten> purserj: really? big move | |
| <purserj> http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200611/s1791845.htm | |
| <Phlosten> oh lordy, the 'quadruple bypass burger' | |
| <siccness> 18:42 < hantu> ive no idea, don't ask me, ask siccness <--wah? | |
| <DavidTangye> Hi all. Has anyone had a problem with slow nfs mounting? | |
| <Phlosten> hmm, didn't want to wait obviously | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <siccness> 1min to respond :| | |
| <merlin-linux> has anyone used m0n0wall? | |
| <siccness> Not I | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can you change to a directory that has spaces in the folder names? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> In a shell I mean. | |
| <Phlosten> escape the space | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Meaning what? | |
| <Phlosten> with a backslash | |
| <Phlosten> ie This\ Is\ A\ Folder | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah OK | |
| <Phlosten> m0n0wall working alright? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Still doesn't work | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: do this, cd [enter the first characters and then press Tab] | |
| <Phlosten> tab completion | |
| <roth-laptop> wots goin on with #ubuntu it wont let me in | |
| <siccness> dunno, works for me | |
| <jml> roth-laptop: gotta be registered with nickserv | |
| <roth-laptop> ahh | |
| <roth-laptop> stuff them then | |
| <Phlosten> that doesnt sound right | |
| <hysterio> its not letting me in with an unreg'd nick | |
| <Phlosten> it shouldnt require registration because that is the default channel you join with default ubuntu install and you irc | |
| <jml> for a while, they were also posting a message about having technical troubles. | |
| <adhoc_> cafuego: ta | |
| <AlexC> how do you start a new channels | |
| <AlexC> in xchat? | |
| <jml> AlexC: /join #newchannelname | |
| <roth-laptop> too many people in there i reckon | |
| <roth-laptop> 800 or more | |
| <siccness> we didnt start the fire! | |
| <roth-laptop> but it has always been burning | |
| <hysterio> hahaha.... the howard govt has pledged 60 million to global warming, and has pledged 90 million to have chaplains employed in schools | |
| <hysterio> i for one welcome our christian right overlords... | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio: lol | |
| <hysterio> only through prayer can we lower carbon based emissions | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio: maybe they think that prayer will fix it | |
| <Phlosten> snap! | |
| * hysterio prays for the bad bad carbons to go away, and for a bike | |
| <Phlosten> 'dear lord, please ensure that the carbon emissions from my 4.7ltr V8 do no harm to those little penguins..' | |
| <siccness> 4.7ltr v8 heh | |
| <Phlosten> my brother bought one of those new jeeps with a 4.7 in it, 'does it have that thing where it turns off 4 cylinders around town', 'nar you dont get that till you get the 5.3ltr | |
| <Phlosten> arg | |
| * Phlosten jumps on the USB system | |
| *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ | |
| <merlin-linux> w00t a netsplit while i was away | |
| <achjo> a what ? | |
| <roth-laptop> yay | |
| <elkbuntu> achjo, where one server in the network splits away from the rest, resulting in the above spammyness | |
| <siccness> why would you turn cylinders off, Phlosten? | |
| <siccness> thats crazy talk | |
| <Phlosten> fuel saving thing | |
| <Phlosten> when you cruising around town it will shutdown 4 cylinders to save fuel...and the penguins | |
| <siccness> so around town you got a 4cyl jeep | |
| <hysterio> or you could buy a more practical and economical car to begin with | |
| <siccness> but when you take it for a run, you got an 8cyl jeep | |
| <siccness> Exactly | |
| <siccness> Like a HSV Clubsport | |
| <Phlosten> siccness: something like that | |
| <jfrench> Who has a clubsport? | |
| <Phlosten> get a brain, buy a bicycle | |
| <hysterio> yeah - 6 litres of seal clubbing goodness | |
| <Phlosten> heh | |
| <siccness> Yup, LS2 baby | |
| <siccness> thats the shit | |
| <hysterio> on the rare occasion that I drive to work, it shits me the number of massive 4wds with only one person in them stuck in traffic... | |
| <Tatey> motorbike ftw | |
| <hysterio> not in sydney | |
| <siccness> A 4WD is more economical than my car | |
| <siccness> and my car is only a v6 | |
| <siccness> a hummer is more economical than my car, infact. | |
| <Phlosten> there is a hummer crusing around this town these days | |
| <hysterio> Tatey: i'd ride, except the number of idiots on sydneys roads | |
| <Phlosten> seems as though some farmer has decided that it would be the ideal farm vehicle | |
| <elkbuntu> oh come on. who doesnt *want* to own a hummer? | |
| * hysterio puts his hand up | |
| <elkbuntu> those things are awesome cool | |
| <siccness> hummers are rat shit | |
| <Tatey> hysterio: it's not the safest where I live either | |
| <hysterio> Tatey: if more people rode it would be different | |
| <elkbuntu> s/rat/the/ .. why siccness, i agree! | |
| <hysterio> s/hummers/zepplins/ | |
| <hysterio> now thats a classy for of transport | |
| <hysterio> *form | |
| <siccness> I dunno, I'd rather a motorbike over a hummer | |
| <siccness> hummers are just stupid | |
| <hysterio> i imagine the novelty would wear off pretty quick - like when you need to find parking | |
| <siccness> plus they're slow | |
| <siccness> unless you modify it | |
| <siccness> like the 10sec one | |
| <siccness> that'd be pimp | |
| <siccness> 10sec hummer | |
| <siccness> pope paul, malcolm x, british politician sex | |
| <siccness> Jfk, blown away, what else do I have to say | |
| * purserj keeps reminding himself this is a family friendly channel, but its hard when you see pimp and 10 second hummer mentioned | |
| <siccness> what? I | |
| <purserj> Oh thats "We Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel | |
| <siccness> what? I'm not allowed to say pimp now? | |
| * purserj wonders if siccness knows what a hummer is | |
| <purserj> apart from a gas guzzling car | |
| <siccness> disambiguation | |
| <siccness> haha, oral sex | |
| <siccness> top shit. | |
| <hysterio> purserj: ive been thinking the same thing all along, but bit my tongue | |
| * hysterio prefers his hummers to last longer than 10secs | |
| <siccness> I don't, I like it over quick | |
| <siccness> that way I can get back to computing | |
| <hysterio> lol | |
| <siccness> now purserj, you started this non-family-friendly topic. | |
| <siccness> You're now banned from telling other people off. | |
| <siccness> :D | |
| <purserj> hey, I didn't say anything rude. | |
| <purserj> I may have led but you didn't have to follow ;) | |
| <siccness> True, but it's easier to blame you :P | |
| <zoetrope666> hii roth - youwould happen to be a webcam genius would you? | |
| <zoetrope666> i cant get my el cheapo webcam to work. d'you know of any websites that might be of use? | |
| <adhoc_> evenen all | |
| <hysterio> hey adhoc | |
| <adhoc_> hi hysterio | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: what kinda web cam | |
| <adhoc_> ho mr purserj | |
| <adhoc_> s/ho/hi/ | |
| <adhoc_> hi AlexC | |
| <AlexC> adhoc_ hey | |
| <zoetrope666> It's simply called 'digital camera' or 'dual camera', manufactured by sq technology. CD130E2NG is written on the box - not sure if thats relevant.. It says on Windows that the driver version is 905.108.917.3 | |
| <adhoc_> what does lsusb tell you? | |
| <zoetrope666> umm.. what's lsusb? | |
| <adhoc_> like lspci | |
| <siccness> lsusb is a command that lists the usb devices | |
| <adhoc_> tells you what devices it can see | |
| <siccness> lspci lists pci devices | |
| <zoetrope666> ohok | |
| * adhoc_ beats siccness to the punch ;) | |
| <adhoc_> how you been siccness | |
| <siccness> You know me mate, enjoying life like always. You? | |
| <zoetrope666> do i just put that in a terminal? | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <purserj> hey adhoc_ | |
| <adhoc_> siccness: i am not beating my head against a randomly rebooting desktop | |
| <adhoc_> but i have no X | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> psu? | |
| <siccness> ram? | |
| * adhoc_ is enjoying the frivouslessness of textui land | |
| <adhoc_> gpu fan | |
| <adhoc_> and heatsink combo | |
| <siccness> ahh | |
| <roth-laptop> magic | |
| <zoetrope666> It says - Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2770: 905c NHJ, Ltd (on the top line) and Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 | |
| <siccness> oh oh oh its magic :) | |
| <zoetrope666> (sorry, working between two computers) | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: go look up online at the supported USB devices for linux site | |
| <adhoc_> they have a list of supported USB id numbered devices | |
| <siccness> adhoc_: you teach me something new everyday | |
| <adhoc_> i should get a photo of karl with his special hair ... | |
| <adhoc_> siccness: wassat this time? | |
| <siccness> <--didnt know about usb id website | |
| <adhoc_> oh | |
| <siccness> although i hate usb so it doesnt mean much :P | |
| <adhoc_> there is a similar one for PCI devices and ID #s | |
| <zoetrope666> so which site particularly? | |
| <siccness> http://www.linux-usb.org/ <--im gonna guess that | |
| <zoetrope666> brb, got to switch computers | |
| <hysterio> siccness: yep | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: dude there is this site called google.com | |
| <adhoc_> i don't have my bookmarksa handy =( | |
| <zoetrope666> yeah yeah | |
| <zoetrope666> :P | |
| <zoetrope666> brb | |
| <siccness> Calm down there adhoc_ :) | |
| <hysterio> http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids | |
| <adhoc_> siccness: MY DESKTOP IS DOWN, I AM STRESSED | |
| <siccness> Hehehe | |
| <siccness> Atleast you've diagnosed the issue :| | |
| <adhoc_> actuall i'd be a whole lot more stressed if the server was down | |
| <adhoc_> siccness: i think we have | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc_, deeeeeeep breaths | |
| <siccness> We all know how painful it is to have a b0rked computer :| | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHG | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: how the bloody hell are yah!? =) | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc_, almost over this bastard cold, so good :) | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: =) good to hear! | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: how was your trip? | |
| <elkbuntu> effing awesome :) | |
| <elkbuntu> didnt get a chance to do much touristy stuff.. well.. by the time i did i was a zombie | |
| <siccness> Did you get to do anything cool? | |
| <siccness> Or was it mostly "business" shit? | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: which towns you hit? | |
| <elkbuntu> got to stagger through the sfmoma and buy some postcards. didnt manage to send postcards though | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc_, just san francisco | |
| <siccness> Did you see any famous people? | |
| <elkbuntu> sfmoma=san francisco museum of modern art | |
| <siccness> Other than shutz and the who's who of linux world | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: cool | |
| <elkbuntu> got to meet maddog :) | |
| <siccness> who? | |
| <elkbuntu> jon 'maddog' hall | |
| <adhoc_> elkbuntu: whats your take on the old geezer? | |
| <elkbuntu> he's a pretty cool guy | |
| <siccness> He's just a Linux person | |
| * adhoc_ slaps siccness !!!! | |
| <elkbuntu> JUST? | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o elkbuntu | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o elkbuntu | |
| * elkbuntu giggles | |
| <adhoc_> siccness: dude maddog is a very cool geezer =D | |
| <adhoc_> hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahaHAHAHAhaha | |
| <hysterio> elkbuntu: respect my authoritah! | |
| <siccness> Other than shutz and the "who's who of linux world" | |
| <adhoc_> yeah i like maddog, had some long talks with him about stuff | |
| <siccness> See the word OTHER | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <adhoc_> he is also a fantastic speaker | |
| <siccness> now my irc numbers are all out of order, damn it elkbuntu | |
| <adhoc_> lots to learn from him =) | |
| <elkbuntu> he has some book that is like every line of code in the first unix was explained.. cant remember the title... but it was by some dude who died and it's the first copy and it's going to be auctioned for some chair thing. he got shuttleworth to sign it | |
| <adhoc_> that book | |
| <siccness> Hahaha, the dude put an antenna in a wall socket and got blown across the room | |
| <adhoc_> wow | |
| <merlin-linux> damn the back neighbours are having a party, and they got a live band | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc_, you know what im talking about? cool. it's over a week ago for me now | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why didn't I do that? I could be a cool hacker like him. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Or dead. | |
| <merlin-linux> and the live band sounds like crap | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Hahaha | |
| <elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, well the book couldnt be published for like forever because of legal bullcrap | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: so what you do is..turn your stereo on, crank the daylights out of it | |
| <siccness> and show em how to party | |
| <hysterio> or call the cops | |
| <siccness> Nah, we're australians | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> elkbuntu: Copyright strikes again. | |
| <siccness> we dont call cops for small things like this | |
| <siccness> we retaliate | |
| <hysterio> if only that were true... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Just pretend to be a cop. Drive down the street playing a siren on your car stereo. | |
| <siccness> Won't work | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: yeah put some Goa & Psychedelic Trance | |
| <siccness> wth is that? | |
| <siccness> put on Goanna - Solid Rock | |
| <siccness> OR, to really annoy them: Aqua - Barbie Girl | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I think I still have that song. | |
| <siccness> Should I mock, or should I not? :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Nah. | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, OR, for a good laugh: Rammstein - Barbie Girl | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Would it be possible to make a double-sided LCD backlight to have 2 LCD panels back to back, sharing the same backlight? | |
| <siccness> I have absolutely no idea what that is, but ok. | |
| <elkbuntu> you've not heard of Rammstein? | |
| <hysterio> elkbuntu: did rammstein do a version? | |
| <elkbuntu> hysterio, yes. yes they did. | |
| <hysterio> rofl | |
| <siccness> I know who Rammstein are | |
| <siccness> du haste niche | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, now imagine them singing Barbie Girl. | |
| <siccness> blah blah im a german band that sound shit. | |
| <elkbuntu> in german | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <hysterio> google tells a slightly different story | |
| <elkbuntu> hmm? | |
| <hysterio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_Girl | |
| <siccness> im more disturbed by the fact that you're researching the song | |
| <hysterio> i wanted to hear it ;) | |
| <siccness> elkbuntu is wrong | |
| <siccness> bahaha@her | |
| <elkbuntu> i'd never bothered to go to the barbie girl wikipedia page. im willing to be wrong for that reason | |
| <hysterio> im most disturbed that someone has written a wikipedia article about it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why couldn't the MB have an ExpressCard Slot? | |
| <hysterio> nice segue, Davo_Dinkum ;) | |
| <siccness> ^^ | |
| <hysterio> omfg that track is just disturbing | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <elkbuntu> isnt it just | |
| <frederick85> hello | |
| <frederick85> what was that package name of that HTML visual editor thing | |
| <hysterio> the german language and saccharine pop music mix in such an interesting way... | |
| <elkbuntu> frederick85, NVU? | |
| <frederick85> yes that was it elkbuntu | |
| <frederick85> elkbuntu, could you check for me the dependencies of it | |
| <elkbuntu> it should be in repositories | |
| <hysterio> you need to have universe enabled | |
| <frederick85> elkbuntu, I want to download them onto windows operating system and transfer them later by usb | |
| <elkbuntu> hm... | |
| <hysterio> which version of ubuntu are you running? | |
| <frederick85> elkbuntu, if you havn't got it installed just install it then say no and tell me which ones it requests, | |
| <purserj> hysterio: my favourite duetsche song is Neune unt Neunzig Luft Ballon | |
| <frederick85> it's a bit of an annoying ask but that would be helpful | |
| <elkbuntu> frederick85, please answer hysterio's question | |
| <hysterio> purserj: hahaha i remember that one | |
| <frederick85> sorry didn't see it, I'm using Edgy sorry | |
| <purserj> !NVU | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NVU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <purserj> !nvu | |
| <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB | |
| <elkbuntu> frederick85, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/nvu | |
| <purserj> well that wasn't much help | |
| <frederick85> thanks for the hand guys | |
| <purserj> hold on | |
| <elkbuntu> purserj, i've sent him to the packages.u.c page | |
| <elkbuntu> it lists the deps and recommends | |
| <elkbuntu> (and suggests) | |
| <hysterio> yeah doing it manually could be interesting | |
| <purserj> ah okay | |
| <purserj> apt-cache showpkg nvu might help | |
| <siccness> doing it manually would be crazy. | |
| <elkbuntu> purserj, hes on windows | |
| <frederick85> hysterio, i managed to do it for another package just double clicking the deb package | |
| <purserj> elkbuntu: ah | |
| <elkbuntu> i think anyway | |
| <purserj> I got confused when he said he was using edgy | |
| * frederick85 wishes he could just use the net on UBuntu | |
| <frederick85> purserj, sorry, I'm on a duel boot | |
| <hysterio> frederick85: yeah, but the hard part is the other packages it depend on | |
| <frederick85> so it can be confusing | |
| <elkbuntu> frederick85, what is your network setup? | |
| <frederick85> hysterio, It should give me a list of packages it needs to install and i'll just write them down and download them aswell | |
| <frederick85> elkbuntu, don't have network/adsl where I am now, just my internal modem though | |
| <frederick85> Just temporarily staying with grandparents | |
| <frederick85> they've never used the internet before | |
| <elkbuntu> ah. that is a bit crappy. | |
| <frederick85> it's ok though, i'm not wasting as much time :P | |
| <hysterio> go to that page that elkbuntu posted, it will list what you need to download under "Other packages related..." with a symbol for "depends" | |
| <frederick85> usually I can just spend alot of time online wasting time | |
| <frederick85> hysterio, yes but hard to tell what I have allready | |
| <hysterio> yeah true | |
| <elkbuntu> frederick85, most of those packages will be tiny | |
| <frederick85> i'm downloading the package from the website so i'll just reboot and see which packages it wants to install | |
| <elkbuntu> just download them in case | |
| <hysterio> the main package is here ---> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/nvu/nvu_1.0final-2ubuntu2_i386.deb | |
| <frederick85> i'm a bit of a redundancy nut so I'd rather get the key packages I need | |
| <frederick85> no worries guys ;) | |
| <frederick85> thanks for the aussie support | |
| * hysterio puts on Faith No More - Angel Dust... That will rid my brain of that horrible german music | |
| <siccness> by putting FNM on? | |
| <hysterio> yes | |
| <hysterio> i found myself humming that barbie girl song, at which point i figured i needed to get something else in there or I would icepick lobotomise myself with my pen | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <adhoc_> hehehehe | |
| <siccness> dont worry, the rest of aus got addicted to the song | |
| <Phlosten> anyone else had issues with edgy and mass storage usb devices? | |
| <hysterio> nope | |
| <elkbuntu> not i | |
| * adhoc_ is not running edgy yet | |
| <Phlosten> i have a USB to IDE adapter that is on the disconnect/reconnect merry-go-round | |
| <adhoc_> erk | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> my USB to IDE adapter works fine | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter | |
| <Phlosten> i am starting to think its my actual hardware | |
| <Phlosten> ie mainboard | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Did you try another USB port? | |
| <Phlosten> i have 6 ports and only 2 are usb2 | |
| <Phlosten> and both of them do the same thing, tried a usb1.1 port and it is the same. will try the others | |
| <roth-laptop> mm my wireless card has disapeared | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| * Phlosten hurrumphs | |
| <siccness> and darling, darling stand by me, ohh now, now, stand by me | |
| <roth-laptop> O_o | |
| <roth-laptop> where did my wireless go >_< | |
| <hysterio> elkbuntu: are there any of those pc stickers left? | |
| <adhoc_> roth-laptop: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php | |
| <elkbuntu> hysterio, heaps | |
| *** Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | |
| <hysterio> swoit | |
| <roth-laptop> it was going the other night | |
| <roth-laptop> but now i cant even turn the card on !! | |
| <roth-laptop> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) | |
| <zoetrope666> ok adhoc_, i've found my usb camera ID in http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids what do i do now? | |
| <adhoc_> roth-laptop: ah, one of those ... reboot =/ | |
| <roth-laptop> lol dammit | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: you need to track down if that device is supported and by which driver | |
| <zoetrope666> *sob* k. | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: hey this is what happens =) | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: this is how you learn about hte cool stuff =) | |
| <adhoc_> linux is all about relearning what a puter is and understanding how it works and what it does | |
| <adhoc_> zoetrope666: this is a good thing =D | |
| *** zoetrope86 is now known as zoetrope666 | |
| <zoetrope666> grrr! something is not right with this modem.. it keeps booting me off wayyy too often | |
| <adhoc_> analog or adsl ? | |
| <zoetrope666> dialup | |
| <adhoc_> turn off compression | |
| <zoetrope666> i never had these problems before | |
| <zoetrope666> how do i do that | |
| <adhoc_> and turn on error correction | |
| <adhoc_> you set them in your init strings when before you dial out | |
| <zoetrope666> i have no idea where that is - could you tell me where i find that? | |
| *** adhoc_ is now known as adhoc | |
| <adhoc> what app/program do you use to dial out with ? | |
| <adhoc> wvdail ? | |
| <adhoc> pppd? | |
| <zoetrope6666> *bashes head against wall* | |
| <zoetrope6666> sorry, what did you say to do adhoc? | |
| <siccness> He asked what app you use to dial out with? | |
| <siccness> wvdial, pppd? | |
| <adhoc> what app/program do you use to dial out with ? | |
| <adhoc> you should b e able to find the INIT string | |
| <adhoc> then you can put the commands in there | |
| <zoetrope6666> it says in network manager, under 'interface properties', that the connection device is 'ppp0' | |
| <zoetrope6666> i use the networking tool in gnome in ubuntu | |
| <adhoc> eep | |
| <adhoc> hmm, don't know that one =/ | |
| <zoetrope6666> what do you use? | |
| <adhoc> but if you google for the modems manual | |
| <adhoc> ADSL modem | |
| <zoetrope6666> but what program? | |
| <thoreauputic> zoetrope666: try reconfiguring with sudo pppconfig | |
| <adhoc> and find the init strings for compression and error correction ... | |
| <thoreauputic> adhoc: umm - dialup not adsl | |
| <adhoc> thoreauputic: yes, i use adsl, and zoetrope6666 uses dialup | |
| <adhoc> zoetrope6666: does that make sense? | |
| <thoreauputic> zoetrope666: when I was using dialup I always used pppconfig with pon/poff | |
| <thoreauputic> zoetrope666: it works better than the gnome tools | |
| <roth-laptop> FFS | |
| <zoetrope6666> lol@roth | |
| <roth-laptop> how can i force my wireless card do start from the cli or some such | |
| <adhoc> iwconfig | |
| <adhoc> uload the module | |
| <adhoc> then load the module | |
| <adhoc> then iwconfig | |
| <roth-laptop> the stupid switch on the front of tha lappy wont start it | |
| <adhoc> then ifconfig | |
| <roth-laptop> its says no wireless extensions | |
| <roth-laptop> so it hasnt loaded any drivers | |
| <adhoc> uload the module, then load the module, then iwconfig, then ifconfig | |
| <hysterio> lsmod | grep ipw3945 | |
| <adhoc> check the dmesg output | |
| <siccness> Uh oh | |
| <siccness> I've become addicted to myspace. Shoot me when you have the time. | |
| * adhoc shoots siccness | |
| <zoetrope6666> adhoc - am looking for the manual, sorry. | |
| <roth-laptop> hysterio: no output at all | |
| <hysterio> then the module isnt loaded | |
| <roth-laptop> arg | |
| <roth-laptop> wtf did i do now | |
| <hysterio> actually, make that grep ipw3495 :) | |
| <realist> siccness: I can understand youtube addiction, but myspace? | |
| <adhoc> roth-laptop: what happens if you; modprobe ipw3945 | |
| <hysterio> dont worry siccness, universal will take care of the problem for you | |
| <adhoc> is there any useful dmesg output? | |
| <roth-laptop> FATAL: Error inserting ipw3945 | |
| <siccness> realist: mate, i dunno. this sucks. I've found like 200 people I've known for 10 or so years | |
| <siccness> and I realised that they're all successful, and I keep searching through like it's an archive. | |
| <hysterio> modprobe -v ipw3945 | |
| <realist> siccness: you must in the 16-25 year old demographic then ;-) | |
| <siccness> Yes, of course. | |
| <siccness> But, I don't actually like any of these people. | |
| <siccness> I was hoping to search through and find out that they've all lost legs, eyesights, arms, and/or on the dole. | |
| <realist> Don't believe everything you read either | |
| <roth-laptop> pm hysterio? | |
| <hysterio> wha? | |
| <adhoc> siccness: life deals us an entertaining deck. | |
| <adhoc> siccness: you keep on trucking, you'll find something that interests you and will make you happy =) | |
| <siccness> I've found something that interests me, Linux. | |
| <roth-laptop> mmm PIZZA IS HERE | |
| <siccness> Why else would I spend 14hrs a day on here | |
| <roth-laptop> lol | |
| <adhoc> siccness: ignore those bumbs that are "successful", they are boring and are not happy ;) | |
| <siccness> True, but I'm not much better. I'm almost alcoholic at 19 :P | |
| <adhoc> siccness: =) | |
| <adhoc> find a way to use those skills in linux and you are on your way =) | |
| <adhoc> siccness: i managed to get a foot in the door ... | |
| * merlin-linux is banging on the pots and pans to DJ Mountain - Mudjaji (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - Goa & Psychedelic Trance - a voyage out of this world!) [ Time: 22:25 / 0:00 ] [ Bitrate: 128 kbit/s - 44100 Hz ] [ Player: xmms 1.2.10 ] | |
| <adhoc> at ... um ... 22 | |
| <hysterio> siccness: also, how much are you going to believe someones myspace profile | |
| <siccness> ill get a foot in the door, ill put my VB on the line | |
| <adhoc> merlin-linux: don't do that | |
| <adhoc> the commodore? | |
| <hysterio> lol | |
| <siccness> hysterio: all, these people dont lie. they're dickheads but they dont lie | |
| <siccness> adhoc: no the beer | |
| <adhoc> oh | |
| <merlin-linux> sorry my mouse was in the wrong place | |
| * adhoc doesn't understand why you drink it in the first place... | |
| <merlin-linux> i got gaim running on top of this channel | |
| <adhoc> anyhow =) | |
| <siccness> because its superior to that off catpiss | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <adhoc> siccness: i've been a linux/FOSS sysadmin for ten years. | |
| <adhoc> these jobs are out there... | |
| <siccness> i dont mind if its a linux job or not, ill admin anything, i love doing it | |
| <adhoc> siccness: heres my tip. | |
| <roth-laptop> nothing sus | |
| <adhoc> get your shit together and get yourself to the LCA in 2008 in Melbourne as a hobbist | |
| <adhoc> get your CV together | |
| <adhoc> get in line to do a 10 minute lightning talk on cool stuff you been working on. | |
| <adhoc> you got a year to do some cool project work | |
| <adhoc> help at the conf | |
| <zoetrope6666> mmmmm.. straw-berry flavoured walking-stick shaped christmas confectionary .. | |
| <zoetrope6666> (modem manual is d/l) | |
| <adhoc> zoetrope6666: pah | |
| <realist> siccness: I don't see success as what people have to say about themselves, but peer recognition | |
| <zoetrope6666> at what? the confectionary? or the download? | |
| <siccness> I hear ya, realist | |
| <roth-laptop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-y3ZNaCqs <-- do that | |
| <zoetrope6666> that's very realistic of you, realist | |
| <zoetrope6666> :P | |
| <zoetrope6666> adhoc - will the general modem for my manual have the information? or do i need one that relates to using the modem with linux? i cant really fin dmuch in this manual | |
| <merlin-linux> geek heaven >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/IMG_0253a.JPG | |
| <merlin-linux> well mine anyhow | |
| <hysterio> tidy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> CRT?! Pfft. | |
| <Tate> is that your desk setup? | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah the mess that it is atm | |
| <Tate> nic | |
| <Tate> e | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: yes it a bloody CRT! | |
| <siccness> a bloody fine CRT might I add. | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah it a ibm 19" | |
| <zoetrope6666> oh well. this is too complicated for me to figure out. i have no idea what im looking for. perhaps another time. :/ | |
| <zoetrope6666> thanks anyway for your help. | |
| <adhoc> damn | |
| <adhoc> missed hime | |
| <adhoc> night all | |
| <hysterio> night adhoc | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Night adhoc. | |
| *** dsas_ is now known as hignfy | |
| *** hignfy is now known as dsas_ | |
| *** dsas_ is now known as dsas | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| * lucychili waves | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: hello :) great to see youagain | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: ty for your help the other day! i appreciated it | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: np | |
| <lifepositive> if I up;grade my whole computer system to a different CPU etc, can I place this Hard drive in it, and will ubuntu pick up the new hardware? | |
| <Phlosten> hahah, from slashdot "Who merged the Linux Genuine Advantage code into the tree?" re: ballmer IP comment | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: should do | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: :) | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: ok! would hate to have to start all over again | |
| <purserj> lifepositive: linux is much better at handling hardware changes than windows | |
| <lifepositive> purserj: cool | |
| <lifepositive> I would truly hate to have to start all over again, just because I want to upgrade my system | |
| <lifepositive> so i will try to place this hard drive in the new system then | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: linux already comes with most bits of software required to get hardware working. as opposed to windows which requires endless driver disks | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: yeah | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: do flash files end in .fsh? | |
| <Phlosten> plus the hardware validation issue | |
| <Phlosten> flash are .swf i thought | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: ok | |
| <lifepositive> i moved the flash files from my firefox cache, but need to rename them to play them | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: what are they called in your cache? | |
| <Phlosten> time for coffee and breakfast, brb | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: its ok! i found a solution | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: they are called CACHE000393 etc | |
| <lifepositive> so I moved them to my other folder and ran mplayer | |
| <lifepositive> and they play | |
| <lifepositive> :) | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: every video you see on websites is copied into your firefox Cache folder | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: so it makes a "copy" of them all | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: im sure you knew that anyway | |
| <Phlosten> ah, yes | |
| <Phlosten> it used to be that if they .swf on the web they were .swf in your cache. it appears that has changed | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: because I use a modem I cant watch them in real time | |
| <lifepositive> so i watch them later after they saved in my firefox cache | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: there is a plugin for firefox that lets you download embedded content | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: like videos? | |
| <Phlosten> indeed | |
| <lifepositive> whats the plugin? | |
| <Phlosten> just looking now | |
| <Phlosten> extension actually | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: whats the plugin? | |
| <Phlosten> seems there are a couple | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: which is best? :) | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: just installed one to check | |
| <lifepositive> ok | |
| <Phlosten> this one seems ok | |
| <Phlosten> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2254/ | |
| <Phlosten> also .flv is a flash video extension | |
| <lifepositive> ok cheers | |
| <lifepositive> brb | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: worked out how the plugin works? | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: it seems to work well | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: i tried it at youttube | |
| <lifepositive> Phlosten: thanks | |
| <Phlosten> lifepositive: just downloading a few | |
| <Phlosten> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzicZPnd6kU | |
| <lifepositive> it saves them as .flv | |
| <lifepositive> whats flv? | |
| <dsas> flash video | |
| <Phlosten> wow, those new ps3's look mega-chunky | |
| <lifepositive> dsas: ok | |
| <lifepositive> whats mega chuncky? | |
| <dsas> shredded marmalade? | |
| <dsas> kit kat chunkys | |
| * dsas looks up | |
| <Phlosten> they look big | |
| <hysterio> phlosten: you reckon? | |
| <Phlosten> yeah | |
| <hysterio> ah just saw a better shot of one... | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio: look up 'smash my ps3' on youtube | |
| <hysterio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PS3s_and_controllers_at_E3_2006.jpg | |
| <Phlosten> i dont really care too much as I wont be bouying one :) | |
| <hysterio> same | |
| <Phlosten> i barely use our ps2 now, for games that is | |
| <hysterio> they look like an old school vcr | |
| <Phlosten> we bought it as a dvd player mostly | |
| <Phlosten> hysterio: yeah, i think they look hideous | |
| <hysterio> those smashmyps3 guys should have walked back in and tried to get a warranty replacement | |
| <Phlosten> heh, yeah | |
| <Phlosten> if you go to the smashmyps3.com site there is a link to a video of a dude destroying a psp, quite funny | |
| <pschulz01> Morning. | |
| <hysterio> gday | |
| <hysterio> is there any reason why you still cant pick reiserfs as a partition format on the kubuntu live cd install? |
