<maxamillion> hello all

<cellofellow> hi max

<cellofellow> maxamillion*

<maxamillion> soooo ... i have wine running on amd64 :)

<maxamillion> without chroot

<cellofellow> how is that possible? are you using 64-bit apps?

<TheSheep> maxamillion: but you did sacrifice a black rook?

<maxamillion> TheSheep: i believe i might have

<cellofellow> maxamillion: I'm all ears

<wasp_ems> hello

<wasp_ems> anyone know how to install xgl?

<maxamillion> wasp_ems: sudo apt-get install xgl?

<wasp_ems> dont work tried it

<maxamillion> errr

<maxamillion> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl

<JKnife> xserver-xgl

<maxamillion> :)

<JKnife> -_-

<wasp_ems> thanx

* JKnife kicks maxamillion

* JKnife doesn't use Xgl

<JKnife> :) YAY for nvidia

<wasp_ems> has anyone used it?

<TheSheep> wasp_ems: check http://wiki.beryl-project.org

<maxamillion> nope ... nvidia here

<wasp_ems> ok thanx

<JKnife> i have

<JKnife> i hated it.. to many freaking hacks

* cellofellow has an old card so would have to use XGL but that's not so fast anyways.

<nuts7> is nvidia faster than xgl

<JKnife> soooo... anyone know where i can get a good .zshrc file?

<maxamillion> no clue

<JKnife> nuts7: =/ nvidia = gpu and they do not need Xgl to run beryl/compiz

<cellofellow> nuts7: a real good nvidia card with the lateset driver will do faster than a normal card with xgl

<JKnife> -_-

<crimsun> JKnife: create one using the tutor mode of zsh-beta

<crimsun> (it runs automatically the first time you use zsh-beta)

<cellofellow> what's zsh like? never used anything but bash and busybox

<crimsun> I like zsh a lot

<cellofellow> is zsh from the C Shell family or the Bourne Shell family?

<delaney> ive only used bash and tcsh

<maxamillion> neither, i think its one of the old original ones

<JKnife> ksh

<cellofellow> ksh is a bourne+c mix isn't it?

* cellofellow wonders how tcsh would be for scripting. Like C, isn't it?

* JKnife shrugs

<cellofellow> ksh is really popular on commercial unixs like Solaris and AIX.

<cellofellow> darnit scite doesn't let me move tabs around like in firefox

<maxamillion> cellofellow: submit a feature request

<cellofellow> ok

*** petroleum_ is now known as archangelpetro

<JKnife> =/ in a VT my screenhard status line blinks but not in URxvt

<JKnife> " hardstatus string "%{.bW}%-w%{.rW}%n %t%{-}%+w %=%{..G} %H %{..Y} %m/%d %C%a " "

<pizux> yop TheSheep

<maxamillion> JKnife: that looks like valid perl :P

<pizux> trying to add doom3 in gdm but don't appears

<maxamillion> pizux: what?

<JKnife> maxamillion: -_- it is BLINKING in a VT but not in URxvt, why?

<maxamillion> JKnife: no clue, should i know?

<pizux> this is my domm3 session in usr/share/xsession [Desktop Entry]

<pizux> Encoding=UTF-8

<pizux> Name=doom3

<pizux> Comment=jeux

<pizux> Exec=doom3

<pizux> Terminal=False

<pizux> Type=Application

<pizux> sory for the flood

<maxamillion> no worries, what is doom3?

<maxamillion> other than the game

<pizux> that's the game

<JKnife> =/

<JKnife> i never thought of that.. making it a gdm session ^_^

<pizux> in fact i try to run it with the less proc as possible

<JKnife> i should do that with Q3A :)

<pizux> but my desktyop entry don't work why?

<vidd> hello maxamillion

<JKnife> gah yum is slow as poo on a bad day

<pizux> any idea?

<TheSheep> pizux: maybe look at the xfce session and try something similar?

<pizux> done it

<maxamillion> hey vidd

<TheSheep> pizux: maybe you need full path to the exec?

<vidd> how goes it?

<pizux> ever try

<pizux> full path

<TheSheep> hi vidd

<catalytic> I have an Ati radeon card

<vidd> hello TheSheep

<catalytic> and if i install it via sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose ATI

<catalytic> i dont seem to get 3d support

<catalytic> but if install it as fglrx I do

* JKnife kicks vidd

<pizux> Exec=/usr/local/games/doom3/doom.x86 ?

<TheSheep> whatever 'which doom3' says

<JKnife> try it

<catalytic> is it possible for me to get 3d support using my ATI drivers?

<pizux> it's a binary so it should works isnt it?

* vidd pulls JKnife out of his back

<vidd> nice to know im so wanted

<fontppp> what package do i install for cvs? apt-cache search cvs doesn't give me anyhting obvious

<catalytic> SVN

<TheSheep> catalytic: that's no cvs

<catalytic> no, its better :)

<pizux> usr/local/bin/doom3 :/

<fontppp> well i'm trying to pull from a cvs repo. I wasn't sure if svn played nice with cvs

<TheSheep> gcvs - Graphical frontend for CVS <--- that's sick O.o

<catalytic> can anyone help with my vidcard setup?

<TheSheep> fontppp: try cvsutils maybe

* pizux scratch his head

<catalytic> or has anyone here got an ati radeon dual head, with 3d support on both screens?

* pizux open linux bible

<pizux> thx TheSheep

<TheSheep> at the beginning there was RMS

<fontppp> oh wow, i totally missed that the first time around. thanks thesheep

<PuMpErNiCkLe> And RMS went to rewrite a printer driver, and behold, there was no source.

<PuMpErNiCkLe> And this angered RMS.

<fontppp> oh you're the same sheep from rgrn

<TheSheep> fontppp: rgrd

<fontppp> err d

<pizux> re

<TheSheep> :)

<fontppp> heh, i've got it open in tin right now.

<maxamillion> TheSheep: what's rgrd?

<TheSheep> maxamillion: rec.games.roguelike.development

<maxamillion> rgr

<pizux> ok well TheSheep u told me u use mozilla as desktop entry in gdm what was it domm3 still don't appears

<maxamillion> TheSheep: you code games too?

<TheSheep> pizux: it doesn't appear at all?

<TheSheep> maxamillion: sure

<pizux> no

<TheSheep> pizux: doesit have .desktop extension?

<TheSheep> pizux: maybe chmod a+rx it?

<TheSheep> :/

<maxamillion> TheSheep: cool ... i took a video game programming course, coded a noobish little 2d rts with the allegro gfx library

<pizux> yes got a .doom3

<TheSheep> pizux: how is the file named, again?

<pizux> which one?

<TheSheep> should be /usr/share/xsessions/doom3.desktop

<TheSheep> or something like that

<TheSheep> maxamillion: roguelikes hardly use graphics :)

<TheSheep> maxamillion: at least the traditional ones

<pizux> [Desktop Entry]

<pizux> Encoding=UTF-8

<pizux> Name=doom3.desktop

<pizux> Comment=jeux

<pizux> Exec=/usr/local/bin/doom3

<pizux> Terminal=False

<pizux> Type=Application

<pizux> is it ok u think?

<JKnife> yes

<TheSheep> pizux: Name can be 'Doom 3' or something like that, I was talking about the actual name of the file

<pizux> doom3

<TheSheep> doom3.desktop

<TheSheep> the file you put in the xsessions direcotry

<TheSheep> directory

<pizux> ok

<pizux> trying it

<vidd> maxamillion, how involved are you in the xubuntu devlopment?

<pizux> grrrrr

<pizux> no way

<JKnife> =/

<TheSheep> pizux: still nothing?

<TheSheep> pizux: maybe try to put a terminal or something and see if it works then

<pizux> a terminal safe in gdm?

<TheSheep> pizux: just replace Exec=/usr/local/bin/doom3 with Exec=Terminal

<TheSheep> in your doom3.desktop

<TheSheep> and see if it works

<pizux> i don't have chmod my xsesion file

<TheSheep> well, gdm runs as a root, I think, should have access to it...

<pizux> got Terminal=False

<pizux> perhaps terminal=true

<catalytic> oooh im getting close

<catalytic> i now have merged FB except they are both cloned

<catalytic> but if i move the mouse to the edge of the screen, they slide as if it where two desktops

<maxamillion> getting off work ... going home, will be back later ... have to code

<vidd> anyone know where stored seccions are located?

<JKnife> umm ~/.Xsession

<JKnife> i THINK

<vidd> no

<vidd> ....

<vidd> i cant find a file named .Xsession

<JKnife> =/ ummm

* JKnife runs away

<pizux> ok doom3 launching in a trminal safe in gdm but after that how to return to gdm?

<JKnife> umm try sudo killall Xorg

<pizux> ok i will but its shame i cant add domm3 in xsession

<pizux> don't find how to

<vidd> JKnife, what i have is...when i power up my laptop, there are two sessions to choose from....default and one of the users

<wasp_ems> hello i installed xgl but when i go to enter it it exits after 10 sec and says that it has an error..can anyone help??

<JKnife> #ubuntu-xgl would be more help

<pizux> ok i just remove beryl with aiglx

<JKnife> remove beryl with aiglx?

<pizux> sorry remove beryl

<pizux> too many bugs

<pizux> with nvidia beta driver

<JKnife> have you seen the new splash screen for the released driver?

<pizux> non

<JKnife> o.O omg SOO much cooler :)

<pizux> o.O omg ?

<JKnife> o.O <-- eyes, OMG = ohh my god

<pizux> is there a depot for edgy?

<pizux> and is there someone here playing halflife 2?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Amaranth has a repository with the beta nvidia drivers, iirc.

<pizux> amaranth?

<pizux> ok found it

<pizux> 9625 better than 9626?

<JKnife> 9626 = released

<pizux> and got 9629

<pizux> better?

<pizux> what mess which one to choos?

* JKnife shrugs

<pizux> ok well goodnight all and thx u

<Commander-Crowe> heh

<Commander-Crowe> well

<Commander-Crowe> 2 hours wasted on the xubuntu wiki fixing typos

<Commander-Crowe> I only found 4 btw

<Commander-Crowe> someone knows english

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Either that or they know how to pipe it through aspell. :)

<Commander-Crowe> haha

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<JKnife> doesn't it have spell checking?

<Commander-Crowe> don't know

<Commander-Crowe> there's a few things that spell check doesn't pick up

<john83> ok, clicking kbounce from xfce makes X restart

<john83> wtf?

* JKnife blams Qt

* john83 blames canada

<john83> why shouldn't I use dist-upgrade to upgrade?

<JKnife> =/ umm dapper will be supported longer maybe?

<john83> Ok, first topic says 6.10 is here (!!!!!) then you say not to upgrade

<john83> consistent, much?

<Commander-Crowe> no

<Commander-Crowe> download SIO

<Commander-Crowe> ISO*

<Commander-Crowe> burn to disk

<Commander-Crowe> disc

<Commander-Crowe> and then do fresh install

<john83> andd... lose all my files. :P why not upgrade though?

<Commander-Crowe> heh

<Commander-Crowe> the errors you get will erase your files anyways

<Commander-Crowe> :)

<john83> why would there be any errors? if so, that is pretty sad for ubuntu

<john83> I did dist-upgrade after changing sources.list and it worked fine

<JKnife> john83: umm cause edgy is well EDGY!

<john83> xfce does seem to be desktop happiness anyway

<john83> with opera

<john83> firefox is totally useless on linux

<Commander-Crowe> dist-upgrade never worked for me

<john83> xfce quite a lot snappier than gnome. and kde just sux

<john83> *cough*user error*cough*

<JKnife> haha

<JKnife> EvilWM FTW!

<Commander-Crowe> eh

<john83> where does that ftw ftl come from in the wow game?

<Commander-Crowe> Xfce is faster then Gnome or KDE

<Commander-Crowe> and it still has a bunch of stuff

<Commander-Crowe> oh do I uninstall Opera?

<john83> can I have the gnome deskbar in xfce?

<JKnife> john83: huh?

<john83> Commander-Crowe: apt ?

<JKnife> sudo apt-get remove opera

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<john83> it's the best browser for leeenux though

<JKnife> no

<JKnife> w3m or elinks

<Commander-Crowe> eh

<john83> those are hardly suitable for real browser

<Commander-Crowe> Opera keeps crashing on me

<Commander-Crowe> so I stick with FireFox

<john83> see above re: user error? =)

<john83> firefox sux

<john83> toooooo slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

<john83> on win it is good. on linux it just sucks for me. even totally vanilla..

<john83> is there a place where xfce session data is stored? it seems like it is continually loading an old session when I log in, eve though I have tourned that off

<JKnife> john83: that sounds like a "user error" to me

<john83> john83: nope, it's firefox error

<JKnife> nah

<john83> the mozilla.com build is somewhat better than ubuntu, but still slow. even if launched from RAMDISK

<JKnife> o.O i was talking about your session problem

<john83> oh

<john83> well

<john83> I turned off sessions

<john83> but it is still loading a session

<john83> seems counter-intuitive

<Commander-Crowe> eh

<john83> so can the deskbar from gnome be used in xfce?

*** Commander-Crowe is now known as Commander|freecr

*** Commander|freecr is now known as Commander|frcrft

*** Commander|frcrft is now known as Comndr|freecraft

<john83> how do I get thumbnail previews of videos in xubuntu?

<john83> Comndr|freecraft: I would kick your ass in freecraft

*** Comndr|freecraft is now known as Commander-Crowe

<Commander-Crowe> eh

<Commander-Crowe> it doesn't seem to be working

<bubba_jones> when's xorg7.3 coming out? sounds promising.

<JKnife> bubba_jones: in edgy+57

<crimsun> 57, eh?

<crimsun> better suit up for a long winter, then

<bubba_jones> would like to see a one button install for beryl. still can't get it installed.

<JKnife> -_- use a simi-new nvidia card

<JKnife> (and edgy)

<JKnife> install beryl, add 1 line to Xorg.conf and run beryl...

<bubba_jones> jknife, I will try again next month.

<bubba_jones> each iteration of linux just gets a bit better.

<phlasphy> hey

<phlasphy> am i alone here

<vidd> no there are ppl here

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> hey vidd

<vidd> phlasphy, whats up?

<phlasphy> i am install xubuntu

<vidd> ok

<Commander-Crowe> eh

<phlasphy> hey Commander-Crowe

<vidd> what is your question phlasphy

<phlasphy> none yet but i will after the install

<Commander-Crowe> hey phlasphy

<phlasphy> any more parent telling

<Commander-Crowe> no

<phlasphy> ok

<Commander-Crowe> but I did have to clean out another comp loaded with porn on it

<phlasphy> rofl

<Commander-Crowe> porn=bad for windows

<phlasphy> do you ever open any of it to see what they are into'

<phlasphy> porn=good for linux

<Commander-Crowe> I try to avoid that

<phlasphy> rofl

<Commander-Crowe> only a few time have I run across gay porno

<phlasphy> you should reccomend linux

<Commander-Crowe> ek

<Commander-Crowe> I do

<Commander-Crowe> all the time

<phlasphy> do they l;isten

<Commander-Crowe> this last guy said he'll do it sooner or later

<Commander-Crowe> he tried the LiveCD

<phlasphy> lol

<Commander-Crowe> and liked it

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> I need help with my wireless router

<Commander-Crowe> I need to turn off NAT and whatever else is keeping me from sshing

<phlasphy> please tell me xubuntu is alot faster off of the livecd

<Commander-Crowe> no

<Commander-Crowe> its about the same

<Commander-Crowe> or so some people say

<phlasphy> ill get fedora then

* vidd prepers the alt cd

<Commander-Crowe> I do too

<phlasphy> Commander-Crowe: are you serious

<phlasphy> so it is no faster off the cd then on

<vidd> once it is installed...there is no difference between live install and alt install

<Commander-Crowe> it gonna be slower unless you have a really fast CD to data transfer rate and like 1 GB of ram

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> Commander-Crowe: you are DeeDeeDee ^_^

<phlasphy> it says grub will be installed to (hda) is that right

<bubba_jones> live cd is very usable imho

* vidd has old hardware

<phlasphy> is hda right

<phlasphy> i dont want to have to install this again

<phlasphy> ill try it hope it is

<phlasphy> for the cds sake

<vidd> wb Jester45

<Jester45> hiya

<Jester45> whatup

<Jester45> im bored

<Jester45> somone needs to join the channle with a simple question that i can answer

<phlasphy> Jester45: what is a WM

<Jester45> WM window manager

<phlasphy> ok

<Jester45> !ubugtu

<ubotu> ubugtu is an Ubuntu Bot. Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots - Please don't play with the bot in the main channel.

<phlasphy> what WM do oyu use

<Jester45> fxwm

<Jester45> or somthing like that

<phlasphy> wat?

<Jester45> just s econd

<phlasphy> ok

<Jester45> i use xfwm4

<phlasphy> ok

<Jester45> !xfwm4

<ubotu> xfwm4: window manager of the Xfce project. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.99.1svn+r23334-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1192 kB, installed size 7476 kB

<Jester45> its default wm

<phlasphy> ok

<Jester45> anymore questions

<phlasphy> ummm

<phlasphy> iis xubuntu better than gentoo

<Jester45> i have a job for my self

<Jester45> yes :)

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> what is this job

<Jester45> find a priavte torrent tracker

<phlasphy> demonoid

<vidd> Jester45, do you know how/where to delete stored sessions?

<phlasphy> Jester45: demonoid is good

<Jester45> vidd: nope i only use one session

<Jester45> phlasphy: it looks like semi private

<vidd> i have 2...wanna get rid of one

<phlasphy> its awesome

<Jester45> do you need to register to dl the torrents

<Jester45> can you invite me?

<phlasphy> the older ones yes

<phlasphy> umm i dont think i have any invites

<phlasphy> illl check

<catalytic> i did it

<catalytic> i dont know how

<catalytic> but it works now

<Jester45> what

<catalytic> dual screen ATI on xubuntu with direct draw on both

<catalytic> 3d accel

<catalytic> big desktop

<Jester45> how big screens

<catalytic> 2 1280x1024

<Jester45> inches

<phlasphy> Jester45: ummm sorry i have none

<Jester45> o'

<Jester45> :(

<phlasphy> go into #demonoid channel and ask around

<phlasphy> http://www.searchirc.com search for demonoid

<phlasphy> ok Jester45

<bubba_jones> very quiet board tonight

<phlasphy> lol

<vidd> yeah

<catalytic> http://jiltedreality.com/2d/dualieGoodness.png

<vidd> thats cuzz everybody's stuff is working great

<phlasphy> lol

<catalytic> only complaint i have is that the auto hide feather on my panel doesnt work properly now

<bubba_jones> intertesting stuff from the ubuntu developer conference.

<john83> which is faster, galeon or epiphany .. ?

<phlasphy> just finished watching spy games

<phlasphy> the installer crashed

<JKnife> john83: umm they both pull in gnome stuff

<phlasphy> i hate grub soo much

<john83> JKnife: I need a very fast browser only to use java plugin so that I may utilize a VNC connection

<john83> JKnife: any ideas? (all vnc clients I try fsck up)

<JKnife> Opera or Konqueror

<john83> opera is my main browser...

<vidd> phlasphy, why you hat grub?

<phlasphy> it never works

* vidd has never had issues with it

<JKnife> grub is a life saver ^_^

<vidd> what do you want it to do?

<phlasphy> boot windows and xubuntu'

<vidd> what issue you having?

<phlasphy> it just said error

<phlasphy> could not install

<vidd> when booting what>

<vidd> ...

<phlasphy> i did not even boot this is during the install

<vidd> using the live cd?

<phlasphy> ye

<vidd> ....

* vidd is not familiar enough with the live cd to offer much help

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> dpkg --reconfigure grub

<JKnife> -_-

<phlasphy> the install failed

<phlasphy> ill try though

<JKnife> -_- apt-get install gub then

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> i am reinstalling

<phlasphy> where do i make grub go

<JKnife> ¦ <-- broken pipe

<JKnife> umm did it finish with no errors?

<phlasphy> no

<phlasphy> i am reinstalling

<phlasphy> it says grub will be installed to

<phlasphy> (hd0) do i leave it as that

<phlasphy> help please

<vidd> yes...leave it at the default setting

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> it is installing

<Jester45> im back

* JKnife d/cs Jester45

<vidd> wb Jester45

<vidd> d/cs?

<JKnife> disconnects

<vidd> why you gatta be so anti-social JKnife ?

<JKnife> SHUT UP!

<JKnife> XD

<vidd> next thing ya know, you'll be running around infecting ppl's systems with windows

<Jester45> default is allways good

<JKnife> o.O nope... linspire and FC6 for crimsun

<vidd> windows: the virus that grew up to be an OS

<Jester45> vidd: lol

<Jester45> you made a funny

<vidd> i broke my cups....how do i reset it to default?

<Jester45> dpgk -reconfigure cups

<vidd> D'OH

* vidd tucks his stupidity back in

<vidd> i should know that

<phlasphy> Commander-Crowe:

<Commander-Crowe> yes phlasphy?

<phlasphy> oops forgot to put hey there

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> heh

<vidd> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: CUPS is not installed

<phlasphy> Commander-Crowe: is xubuntu your distro of choice

<Jester45> vidd install it then

<vidd> Package cups is not available, but is referred to by another package.

<vidd> ....

<Jester45> cupsd?

* vidd is feeling stupid tonite

<vidd> nope

<vidd> gnome-cups-manager it is

<Commander-Crowe> phlasphy, yes

<Jester45> lol

<Jester45> much longer

<phlasphy> Commander-Crowe: i hope it becomes mine

<Commander-Crowe> phlasphy, what are you using now?

<phlasphy> umm windows

<phlasphy> atm

<Commander-Crowe> oh

<Commander-Crowe> yeah I just switched over to windows

<Commander-Crowe> time for some DoD

<phlasphy> over two windows

<Commander-Crowe> two=2

<Commander-Crowe> do you not speak english well?

<phlasphy> to sorry

<phlasphy> i am tired lol

<vidd> TO windows???? or FROM windows?

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> no

<Commander-Crowe> I tri-boot Xubuntu suse and Windows

<Commander-Crowe> so I went back to windows to play dod

<phlasphy> ok

<vidd> cool, eww, and yuck

<Commander-Crowe> and then once I'ma done I go back to xubtunu

<phlasphy> what is DOD

<Jester45> where is the list of repos that apt uses at

<vidd> denial of service

<Commander-Crowe> Day of Defeat

<phlasphy> ok

<JKnife> lol

<vidd> Commander-Crowe, defeat from what?

<Commander-Crowe> the axis lost if my history serves me right

<JKnife> Commander-Crowe: NO

<JKnife> AXIS FTW!!!

* JKnife ducks

<phlasphy> ALLIES FTW

<Commander-Crowe> no?

* vidd had a day of defeet....de feet walking away from windows

<Commander-Crowe> hahaha

* Jester45 is confused

* vidd is vidd

<vidd> Commander-Crowe, you should kill windows as a dual boot and use qemu to load windows on your linux box

<Commander-Crowe> qemu?

<Commander-Crowe> !qemu

<ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo

<vidd> you can even use qemu to load a whole partition, so you can load it from both xubuntu AND suse

<phlasphy> i like my new connection speed

<Jester45> what is it

<phlasphy> 1500/256 i like it alot lol

<Jester45> cable?

<Commander-Crowe> so I can use qemu to load my windows partition while i'm in Xubuntu?

<vidd> actually, you would need a VM launcher for that

*** Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch

* vidd recommends using qemu to make a clean install of windows, copy it and use the copy

<vidd> that way when it gets infested (and you KNOW it will) you already have a pristine copy waiting to use

<vidd> NEVER load your original

<Commander-Crowe> eh

<Commander-Crowe> not worth it

<vidd> what is not worth it?

<Commander-Crowe> qemu

<luckyone> do you guys know of any how to that shows you how to set up https access to a media server with login

* vidd has all 5 windows versions available under qemu on his laptop...and working on getting OSX

<vidd> does the media server have apache running?

<vidd> or do you want to connect to someone ELSE's media server?

<phlasphy> holy shit

<phlasphy> its hailing like golfballs

<phlasphy> ffsx

<phlasphy> ffs

<boris55> does anybody know where I find libxres1 on a repository?

<Jester45> do you have the extra repo enabled

<boris55> not sure.

<vidd> brb ppl

<Jester45> !libres1

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libres1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<boris55> I have to edit sources.list manually

<Jester45> do you know if its in the ubuntu repos

<Jester45> o you do

<Jester45> ok

<Jester45> "sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list"

<boris55> ok

<Jester45> brb

<joejaxx> mousepad?

* vidd has found the cure for mousepad not printing!!!!

<boris55> it think that is the editor.

<Jester45> mousepad is a simple text editor

<Jester45> kinda like windows notepad

<Commander-Crowe> i like how simple it is

<vidd> and it does not print by default....but i have the cure

<phlasphy> umm how do i install xchat

<boris55> i can't install beryl unitl I resolve that dependancy.

<vidd> you MUST install a2ps

<j1mc> phlasphy . . . sudo apt-get install xchat

<vidd> phlasphy, apt-get install xchat

<phlasphy> i was looking in synaptic and it says chat-gnome

<phlasphy> i dont want the gnome 1

<j1mc> i think xchat is gnome software

<j1mc> it's definitely not KDE

<phlasphy> ohh ok i thought it was 3rd party

<vidd> add the universe repo's....

<phlasphy> how?

<vidd> THEN sudo apt-get install xchat

<phlasphy> how do i get this universe repos

<vidd> sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list

<phlasphy> i type that

<vidd> remove the # from the universe lines

<vidd> yes...type that'

<vidd> bug 1

<Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ubuntu-meta "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1

<phlasphy> so what do i do again

<vidd> in the sources.list file....

<phlasphy> now what

*** Commander-Crowe is now known as Commander|DoD

<vidd> remove the # from the lines that mark the universe repo's

<phlasphy> i did

<vidd> save

<phlasphy> yeah

<vidd> sudo apt-get update

<phlasphy> ok

<vidd> apt-get install xchat

<phlasphy> ok

<vidd> installing?

<phlasphy> updating

<phlasphy> ok how can i add icons to the desktop?

<phlasphy> it could not fins the package xhat

<vidd> then repeat-- removing # for the lines for multiverse

<phlasphy> found it

<phlasphy> i removed the # from them all

<vidd> then you should find it

<phlasphy> i can see it in synaptic

<vidd> then use synaptic

<phlasphy> i am

<vidd> the icon will be in the "network"directory in your Applications menu

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> ok how do i get openbox

<boris55> I found it.

<phlasphy> ok i install openbox how do i vboot into it

<MyGhetek> hi guys, ive got an old laptop (i think it is a 266mhz with 64mb ram) this thing has composite video out and a dual esata pcmcia card. can xubuntu run on this and will it be fast enough to play amp3s and possibly video files?

<vidd> not sure how WELL they will play, but they will....use the ALT cd NOT THE LIVE

<doublemike> I've got a laptop not much better that that and it runs very well

<PuMpErNiCkLe> MP3s, sure, video, not so much.

<phlasphy> how do i configure openbox

<MyGhetek> mmm

<MyGhetek> would it play amarok?

<phlasphy> dont ask me?

<boris55> ok, I have beryl installed. how do I acitvate all this?

<ellioTb> MyGhetek, a 266 with 64megs of ram? i doubt either, worth a shot though

<ellioTb> what up vidd

<vidd> i think i squashed a known bug!

<phlasphy> lol

<ellioTb> phlasphy, openbox is a window manager huh

<phlasphy> yeah

<ellioTb> you just trying to log into it, or configure it

<ellioTb> you should be able to log out, then click on sessions, and change it to openbox

<phlasphy> i cant config anything

<vidd> bug 41271

<Ubugtu> Malone bug 41271 in mousepad "mousepad doesn´t print" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41271

<ellioTb> if you get stuck at all, ctrl+alt+backspace

<phlasphy> i know

<ellioTb> high five then

<phlasphy> but i cannot config anything i click on obconfig and nothing pens

<phlasphy> but i cannot config anything i click on obconfig and nothing happens

<ellioTb> yo no se

<phlasphy> what?

<vidd> how do i notify the team that i have the bug-fix?

<phlasphy> what is the fix?

<ellioTb> /msg crimsun or something

<ellioTb> watching the illusionist right now, anyone seen this

<Nameless-One> hallo

<phlasphy> hey Nameless-One

<ellioTb> what up Nameless-One

<phlasphy> this has nano right

<Nameless-One> O.O

<ellioTb> what has it, xubuntu?

<phlasphy> yeah

<phlasphy> ]

<doublemike> yeah

<Nameless-One> of couse

<Nameless-One> course*

<phlasphy> ok how do i config xorg

<ellioTb> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

<phlasphy> is there not a wizard like gentoo and slackware

<Nameless-One> or 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'

<Nameless-One> that gives the wizard i think

<phlasphy> ok

<Nameless-One> is it the one?

<phlasphy> yeah although it was easier it was like xorgconfig or something

<ellioTb> i can't find one like that

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> i know which one you are talking about though

<phlasphy> ok

<Nameless-One> O.o

<ellioTb> but i think i am thinking of the one that configures x11, where you can decide between xorg or some other server

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> u find the openbox config stuff yet

<phlasphy> yeah all done'

<phlasphy> i am trying to configure openbox now

<ellioTb> nice, u like openbox, don't think i have tried it

<phlasphy> thanks

<ellioTb> nm, i have it installed right now i htink

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> /etc/xdg/openbox looks like

<Nameless-One> ew openbox

<phlasphy> lol

<Nameless-One> xfce or nothing

<phlasphy> fluxbox is that anygood

<ellioTb> yeah, or blackbox

<vidd> ellioTb, i updated the bug report....hopefully they will make it so that xfprint4 will depend on a2ps or something like that

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> vidd, good job mane

<vidd> ellioTb has tried just about every WM there is

<phlasphy> which 1 fluxbox or blackkbox

<vidd> think they will assign credit?

<Nameless-One> fluxbox = blackbox = openbox, anything with the word box in it is off limits for me

<phlasphy> ok

<vidd> Nameless-One, but you have a linux-box ;)

<ellioTb> pwnt

<phlasphy> lol

<phlasphy> ok i will try fluxbox

<ellioTb> yeah, you will like it a lot more prolly

<ellioTb> *easier*

<Nameless-One> OOPS

<Nameless-One> rofl

<bung> hey guys, i was updating my computer and it overheated during the update, now it wont turn on at all

<Nameless-One> woh O.O

<bung> ive chrooted into it with knoppix, but it doesnt recognize the internet connection, any thoughts?

<ellioTb> oh wow

<ellioTb> thats all that doesn't work though? the internet?

<bung> in knoppix

<ellioTb> oh, you should try DSL-N

<bung> without knoppix the comp fails

<ellioTb> damn small linux - not

<bung> how will that help?

<phlasphy> brb

<ellioTb> its 98megs, built off knoppix, but has better hardware support

<Nameless-One> rofl, i wonder which bright spark came up with the name damn small linux - not

<ellioTb> only one that works with my wifi

<Nameless-One> yeh you should try dsl-n

<Nameless-One> it works with my buggered router

<bung> ellioTb: knoppix can use my internet connection fine, the chrooted window cannot

<bung> thats my problem, sorry for not being clear

<ellioTb> ahh, ok

<ellioTb> its ok, sorry for not being helpful, heheh

<Nameless-One> well that changes everything

<ellioTb> were you updating from dapper to edgy?

<bung> i dont know, in synaptic i hit "reload" then "apply"

<bung> and it died somewhere in there

<bung> i wasnt really watching it at the time

<ellioTb> were you in dapper

<bung> probably, its a fairly old xubuntu install

<bung> maybe if i got a new xubuntu cd and installed or upgraded it would work? would that erase my files?

<ellioTb> hrmm, easy way would be to backup /home, then install fresh with an edgy CD

<bung> yea eh

<bung> is there an xubuntu with edgy?

<ellioTb> bung, yessir

<ellioTb> do you have a /home partition, or was it all on the same

<phlasphy> this is beyond hope man

<bung> i dont think its a partition

<bung> i guess ill backup my files and config and reinstall

<ellioTb> i would resize your main partition, copy /home only onto it

<boris55> I used beryl for about two minutes.

<ellioTb> then install a fresh edgy

<ellioTb> that was in the future, you can keep all your settings on its own partition

<ellioTb> err way

<boris55> windows flash on and off rapidly

<vidd> phlasphy, what is beyond hope?

<phlasphy> getting openbox to work

<ellioTb> phlasphy, fluxbox FTW!

<ellioTb> if you are into the minimal WMs

<phlasphy> openbox FTW

<bung> ellioTb: ~/ being on a partition or on / doesnt really matter unless my drive goes corrupt

<phlasphy> i want customization

<Nameless-One> NO BOXES

<ellioTb> bung, yeah, just makes fresh installs or fresh upgrades easier if /home is on its own part

<vidd> the only thing that is hopeless is the person who will only look at the internet through windows, rather then walk through the door provided by linux

<phlasphy> ok vidd

<ellioTb> but its whatever, first time i just backed it up to a CD, then did a fresh install

<phlasphy> shit it froze

<vidd> !language | phlasphy

<ubotu> phlasphy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<Nameless-One> rofl

<phlasphy> sorry

<ellioTb> lol, pwnt

<Nameless-One> i doubt a family would sit around the comp watching #xubuntu

<phlasphy> !language | ellioTb

<ubotu> ellioTb: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<vidd> ellioTb, pordon my stupidity (again) but what is pwnt?

<ellioTb> !topic | phlasphy

<ubotu> phlasphy: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic

<Nameless-One> !language | Nameless-One

<ubotu> Nameless-One: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<Nameless-One> ROFL

<Nameless-One> !topic | chanserv

<ubotu> chanserv: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic

<Nameless-One> O.o

<Nameless-One> !language | ubotu

<ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<vidd> Nameless-One, it is never wise to play games with the channel bots

<Nameless-One> oops

<Nameless-One> i'll stop then

<vidd> hate to see ya get banned

<phlasphy> !language | SHIT

<ubotu> SHIT: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<phlasphy> sorry

<ellioTb> lolololol

<ellioTb> hahahaha

<Nameless-One> how could someone contemplate banning me

<vidd> ellioTb, what does pwnt mean?

<phlasphy> pwnd?

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Because you're spamming a support channel instead of using -offtopic, the way you're supposed to.

<ellioTb> owned

<vidd> ahh

<Nameless-One> it wasnt spam, at least i think it wasnt

<Nameless-One> i was just joining in

<Nameless-One> on teh fun

<ellioTb> this channel is 50/50 off topic and support

<phlasphy> !language | vidd come to bed and

<ubotu> vidd come to bed and: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<ellioTb> chit chat until some1 has a problem

<phlasphy> lol

<Nameless-One> exactly

<PuMpErNiCkLe> !offtopic > ellioTb

<doublemike> I have a problem

<boris55> anyone get beryl working for xubuntu?

<ellioTb> doublemike, whats your problem

<Nameless-One> O:-)

<doublemike> I can't upgrade my laptop to xubuntu edgy because it doesn't have internet access

<doublemike> or a cd drive

<phlasphy> too bad

<vidd> there are ways

<ellioTb> doublemike, how did you get xubuntu on there

<Nameless-One> how did you get the old copy on in the first place

<doublemike> I actually borrowed an identical laptop and switched the HDs for the install

<ellioTb> doublemike, nice, no usb or anything?

<doublemike> one usb 1.1 port

<ellioTb> you can use 400 floppies

<vidd> lol

<doublemike> no floppy drive

<ellioTb> how about a usb drive, write the cd image to it

<doublemike> it doesn't even have a battery

<ellioTb> then get a boot floppy to boot to the drive?

<phlasphy> pppffffffffffffffffffffft

<tazzix> Heyas... anyone know how to get the display settings (in the settings menu) to give you all the resolutions available in xorg.conf?

<vidd> do you have a usb drive?

<doublemike> I tried booting it from USB, but the mobo's too old

<doublemike> and the BIOS is locked

* vidd recomends investing in a cheep usb cdrom

<ellioTb> doublemike, i have a disk i modified

<vidd> doublemike, then unlock the bios

<ellioTb> you can boot to a usb drive with the install on it

<ellioTb> does it have a floppy drive?

<doublemike> no

* phlasphy reccomends investing in a cheap computer

<ellioTb> oh man

<vidd> lol phlasphy

<doublemike> phlasphy: that's how I got into this mess

<ellioTb> yeah, do you have any other computers?

<doublemike> yeah, I do

<vidd> doublemike, to unloke the bios....

<ellioTb> get a laptop ide to normal ide converter, and install it from another comp

<ellioTb> then plug it back in

<ellioTb> that would be pretty easy

<vidd> remove the battery from the motherboard

<doublemike> I've considered removing the battery

<doublemike> and I don't know that it's worth the trouble

<vidd> lol if you break it your out ...what....50$?

<ellioTb> you wont break it

<doublemike> I'm not worried about breaking it

<ellioTb> i would just get the ide converter, and install it from your other comp

<doublemike> I just don't really have time

<doublemike> where do I get one of those

* vidd thinks you should try your local radio shack

<ellioTb> ebay prolly

<ellioTb> for really cheap

<phlasphy> tandy

<phlasphy> or my homie dick smith

<vidd> doublemike, what kind of laptop you got?

<doublemike> dell c600

<ellioTb> i might win, lemme go see what my old one is i have

<tazzix> anyone?

<ellioTb> its *MISSING* the bios battery

<ellioTb> cause it went dead, took it out to get a new one

<ellioTb> and lost it, lol

<vidd> ellioTb, lol

<regeya> wait...dude, what?

<vidd> doublemike, you got a pcmia card slot on that thing?

<doublemike> yeah

<ellioTb> this is what i have

<ellioTb> http://www.andovercg.com/ebay/images/compaq_presario.1090.jpg

<ellioTb> cept mine is a 1070

<vidd> you can get a wireless-b card for it for like 10$ on ebay

<ellioTb> http://www.andovercg.com/Laptop/Compaq/Compaq-Presario-4116.shtml

<ellioTb> p133 w/48megs of ram

<ellioTb> 1gig hd

<doublemike> I thought mine was old

<vidd> i have a wired lan and a wireless b pcmia cards laying around here somewere...they are both plug-n-play with linux

<ellioTb> doublemike, mine has a cdrom though

<ellioTb> muhahah

<vidd> ellioTb, you proud of that thing?

<ellioTb> lol, i got it free

<doublemike> that's another thing: the laptop seems to have a wired ethernet card in it already

<doublemike> but it doesn't work

<vidd> i think my microwave has more ram then that

<ellioTb> this guy wanted me to fix it and put win98 on it, and then gave up once the battery for the bios was lost

<ellioTb> i was thinkin making it a xubuntu box

<doublemike> I know my printer does

<ellioTb> i have a p3 866mhz that is my server

<ellioTb> but this 133 is awsome

<doublemike> how's that?

* vidd wants someone to donate a relic laptop

<ellioTb> donate to you?

<vidd> yeah

<ellioTb> heheh, if you are lucky

<ellioTb> i wish i could figure out what battery this needs

<vidd> my boy always wants to use my laptop to play games when he comes over

<phlasphy> google is my friend

<ellioTb> i have 2 comps that are sweet for gaming

<ellioTb> always have ppl over to play some cstrike

<doublemike> vidd, I got lucky and someone donated one to me

<doublemike> so it can't be too hard

<ellioTb> i have 4 comps, and 2 laptops, 2 of the comps and 1 of the laptop were given to me

<ellioTb> look on craigslist for free ones

* vidd is waiting for his mother to get a new laptop so he can get the one she needed "for just a week or two" (3 years ago) back

<phlasphy> lol vidd

<ellioTb> i have my sisters "hand me down" even though she is younger

<ellioTb> it was too heavy, so i just got her old one

<ellioTb> parents bought both of hers, none for me

* vidd has built 9-10 desktops for ppl

<ellioTb> yeah, i usually get their old ones

<ellioTb> have thrown so many away, shoulda kept em for linux boxes

<phlasphy> linux is my god

<ellioTb> but i wasn't into linux, didn't realize how much easier it had gotten till a few months ago

<ellioTb> i hadn't touched it since like 98

* vidd has TONS of computer components

<vidd> the old lady wants me to toss them

<ellioTb> just organize them, then she'll let you keep em

<ellioTb> our extra bedroom is my comp room

<ellioTb> i decide everything in it

<ellioTb> give her a room, and it'll be all good

<vidd> (till i used the old parts, built a system and sold it for 300$)

<phlasphy> bargain mate

<ellioTb> woohoo!

* ellioTb found the cmos battery for the laptop, 6 bux

<vidd> lol...cost more to ship it?

<phlasphy> lol

<ellioTb> lol, a new battery for this thing is 85 bux

<vidd> ????

<ellioTb> can't be worth half that

<vidd> thast insane!

<ellioTb> who would spend that much to revive a p133

<ellioTb> vidd, just sign up for the OLPC program

<ellioTb> and claim to be 12, and in a third world country

<vidd> cant....it will NEVER be implemnted in the USA

<ellioTb> get an email address from ethiopia

<Nameless-One> rofl

<vidd> M$ would have a hairy fit and conniption if the US government bout 247million laptops for it's youth

<vidd> please note: the OLPC is a program where the government of a contry purchases the laptops for thier youths

* ellioTb loves the blackfriday ads

<vidd> did you hear that wally-world (Wal-mart) is selling a new linux box (internet sales only)

<vidd> its running linspire

<Nameless-One> mean

<ellioTb> 160GB SATA drive for $19.99 at compusa on that friday

<vidd> wow....get them all

<Nameless-One> i recall once they sold 160gb drives in aus for $4.50

<Nameless-One> they made a typo

<Nameless-One> and everyone had already placed orders online

<Nameless-One> and the govt forced them to sell it for $4.50

<vidd> there is that "truth in advertising " thing

* vidd has to hit the rack

<vidd> nite all

<Nameless-One> goodnight

<Nameless-One> C U 2morro

<sully86> Does anyone know why everytime i restart some applications startup even though they aren't in my autostart list?

<vidd> sully86, it is because you have the "resume session" box checked

<Nameless-One> exactly

<vidd> remobe the check and restart twice, issue gone (feature)

<vidd> peace-out

<phlasphy> 7pm Nameless-One

<sully86> i did remove it though

<Nameless-One> yep

<phlasphy> 5pm here

<sully86> it must remember from like 4 times ago

<sully86> maybe i have to clear a file or something

<Nameless-One> i love this ubuntu add/remove applications thing, makes life so much easier for me

<phlasphy> and me

<Nameless-One> especially when you want to download hundreds of apps you will never open

<phlasphy> Nameless-One: how is the weather there?

<phlasphy> pissing down here

<Nameless-One> sunny and clear

<phlasphy> ok

<Nameless-One> only a few clouds

<phlasphy> where in NZ do you live

<Nameless-One> it got really hot today

<Nameless-One> auckland

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> i have been to only the south island

<Nameless-One> temperature boomed up over what it was last week

<Nameless-One> heh, i havnt been to teh south is

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> have you heard of a pace called wanaka

<Nameless-One> yep

<phlasphy> is that the pace with all the mazes and stuff?

<Nameless-One> lol i wouldnt know

<phlasphy> ok i think it is it is soo awesome

<Nameless-One> usually i'm crammed up here in jafastan

<phlasphy> sounds middle eastern

<phlasphy> jafastan

<Nameless-One> lol

<Nameless-One> its what the rest of nz calls auckland

<phlasphy> ok

<Nameless-One> the jafas in jafastan

<phlasphy> little arab in all of us

<phlasphy> rofl

<Nameless-One> heh

<Nameless-One> you can always check the uncyclopedia article on us

<Nameless-One> full of useful info

<phlasphy> rofl

<phlasphy> will do

<phlasphy> www.uncyclopedia.com

<Nameless-One> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Auckland

<Nameless-One> its got the pic of our superimposed nuclear plants

<phlasphy> lol i saw

<ellioTb> !enter

<ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.

<ellioTb> lol

<Nameless-One> lol

<phlasphy> lol

<ellioTb> lol

<Nameless-One> btw check the article on aus

<phlasphy> i can imagine it

<Nameless-One> especially the map at the top

<phlasphy> lo

<phlasphy> lol

<phlasphy> fok how do i make it all repos again i forgot

<phlasphy> ok not fok

<ellioTb> you want to enable all the repos?

<phlasphy> yeah

<phlasphy> ellioTb: how?

<sully86> anybody know how to add a network printer?

<Nameless-One> noob question

<Nameless-One> what are repos

<Nameless-One> i assuming they are the package repositories

<phlasphy> yeah?

<Nameless-One> apps -> system -> software sources 4 me

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> thanks

<Nameless-One> is that what you needed?

<phlasphy> yeah'

* phlasphy thinks so

<Nameless-One> heh

<Nameless-One> Sun Microsystems releases the Java programming language under the GNU General Public Licence ZOMIGOD

<phlasphy> ok

<Nameless-One> so then...

<ellioTb> phlasphy, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

<ellioTb> then remove the #'s

<ellioTb> to uncomment

<ellioTb> aight guys, i am out, the gf wants me to come to bed

<ellioTb> peace out

<Nameless-One> its reaching that time of night when everyone leaves and i start talking to myself

<Nameless-One> c u elliotb

<maxamillion> so .... xubuntu on my iBookG4 == dominationg

<maxamillion> -g

<phlasphy> maxamillion: hey man

<maxamillion> hey phlasphy

<maxamillion> what's new?

<phlasphy> nothing man it is so awesome

<maxamillion> cool cool

<phlasphy> but i cant get openbox to work

<maxamillion> :/

<maxamillion> really?

<maxamillion> isn't it in the repositories?

<phlasphy> i can install it but what then?

<maxamillion> log out, and at the gdm login screen click on "sessions" and select openbox

<maxamillion> should just work

<phlasphy> yeah how do i start configuring it'

<phlasphy> i installed obconf

<phlasphy> and pypanel

<maxamillion> oh ... i dunno, only ever used fluxbox

<phlasphy> ok

<maxamillion> pypanel is nice

<phlasphy> and openbox-themes

<phlasphy> is there a openbox channel

<Nameless-One> :-$

<Nameless-One> its on oftc.net

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> no prob is it active

<Nameless-One> irc://irc.oftc.net/#openbox

<phlasphy> thanks

<phlasphy> i get an erroe

<Nameless-One> ehh

<phlasphy> cannot join channel (+b)

<Nameless-One> maybe it isnt open during night in the pacific

<phlasphy> can u get in

<phlasphy> ?

<Nameless-One> nope

<phlasphy> maxamillion: can you?

<Nameless-One> oops thats because my dns was set wrong

<phlasphy> ohh ok

<Nameless-One> i'll try

<maxamillion> brb

<phlasphy> ok

<Nameless-One> too bad i'm not on CHATZILLA, the god of irc

<phlasphy> pfffft

<maxamillion> negative ... irssi > *

<phlasphy> !language | Nameless-One

<ubotu> Nameless-One: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<Nameless-One> i got in

* maxamillion is still brb, just had to clarify

<Nameless-One> the rooms is up

<Nameless-One> room*

<phlasphy> what you mean up

<Nameless-One> open/running/active

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> i cant get in

<ellioTb> nm, i am alive

<phlasphy> please stay in there Nameless-One

<Nameless-One> server: irc.oftc.net

<Nameless-One> channel: #openbox

<Nameless-One> hey commander

<phlasphy> i still cant get in

<Nameless-One> hmm

<Commander-Crowe> hey Nameless-One

<Nameless-One> have you got the server entered correctly

<ellioTb> maxamillion, what up mane

<Commander-Crowe> does someone wanna ssh into my comp in a few mins?

<Nameless-One> ubotu does

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about does - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<Commander-Crowe> just to see if if I configured my router correctly

<maxamillion> hey ellioTb, just coding

* maxamillion is back

<phlasphy> it is broke

<maxamillion> ellioTb: i'm sitting in my living room running xubuntu on my iBookG4

<maxamillion> Linux iPseudogen 2.6.17-10-powerpc #2 Fri Oct 13 16:37:41 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux

<maxamillion> :)

<ellioTb> nice

<ellioTb> i want a mac laptop :(

<ellioTb> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.20GHz @ 1.20GHz] mem[Physical : 439MB, 46.7% free] disk[Total : 19.23GB, 77.30% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M] sound[]

<maxamillion> you want a macbook ... this one is a powerpc and i like it, but it has its support issues

<ellioTb> i want a macbook pro

<ellioTb> check out this

<ellioTb> http://www.docbert.org/MP/

<ellioTb> i want a camera that can do that

<ellioTb> 1.5 giga pixels

<phlasphy> pfffft

<Nameless-One> rofl

<maxamillion> ellioTb: i don't do flash ... horrible technology :)

<Commander-Crowe> where is some stats on what kinds of systems Xubutnu is installed on?

<ellioTb> maxamillion, no flash at all huh

<ellioTb> pretty weak

<ellioTb> do you protest walmart too

<Nameless-One> :)

<Commander-Crowe> heh?

<phlasphy> it says i am banned from it

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: what i run ... Athlon64 X2 4600+, 2gb ddr2 ram, nvidia 7900gt .... Athlon64 3200+, 1gb drr ram, nvidia 6200 .... iBookG4, 768mb of ram, ati mobility 9200, (airport extreme fully functional)

<phlasphy> wtf i have never been on there before

<Commander-Crowe> who protests wal-mart?

<maxamillion> ellioTb: yeah, walmart bites

<maxamillion> i shop there, but i hate it

<Commander-Crowe> well

<phlasphy> pffffffffffft i am going for a while cya all

<Nameless-One> noooo

<ellioTb> man, 404 digital photos to make one huge one

<Commander-Crowe> I run it on: AMD Sempron 64 3100+, 1 GB DDR Ram, nVidia 6600

<ellioTb> 13.5 gig image

<ellioTb> uptime[2d 1h 12m 30s]

<Nameless-One> boom i have the worst comp here

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: wait ... i think i have that card in my second machine ... i dunno, don't game so i don't really care

<Commander-Crowe> longest uptime ever

<Commander-Crowe> 62 days

<maxamillion> lol

<Nameless-One> WOH

<Nameless-One> 62

<Commander-Crowe> yeah

<maxamillion> my server currently has over a year uptime (i _really_ need to patch the kernel

<Nameless-One> the longest i might have got is 12 hours

<maxamillion> )*

<Commander-Crowe> it was my internet server

<Commander-Crowe> I forgot to turn it off at night

<Commander-Crowe> then i forgot it exsisted ever

<maxamillion> lol

<ellioTb> i dunno how long my server has been up

<ellioTb> lemme look

<Commander-Crowe> I just presumed that the internet came from my wireless router

<Commander-Crowe> heh

<ellioTb> 7 days, not that great

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: lol

<maxamillion> ellioTb: uptimes are crap ... if its longer than 30 days you are probably vulnerable to some attack

<ellioTb> hah, prolly

<ellioTb> i finally put firestarter on there

<ellioTb> sooooooo many scans

<ellioTb> its a joke

<maxamillion> firestarter is a _really_ good peice of software

<Commander-Crowe> firestarter=?

<Nameless-One> i like starting fires

<ellioTb> some is scannin the crap outta me

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: a firewall application

<ellioTb> 66.232.109.15

<ellioTb> hrmm

<Nameless-One> thats ubotu

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: http://www.fs-security.com/

<ellioTb> 33,000 range

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: sudo apt-get install firestarter ... appears under applications->sytem

<maxamillion> system*

<maxamillion> for those who are paying attention

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Nameless-One> gah

<maxamillion> guh.... i should be coding .. but i'm not motivated

<Nameless-One> i assuming a casual user like me doesnt need some big fancy firewall

<maxamillion> Nameless-One: no, i have firestarter on my laptop, desktop, server, work machine, etc.

<maxamillion> Nameless-One: i recommend it for everyone, the user interface is such that anyone with a little knowledge of networking will feel comfortable configuring it

<Nameless-One> as i noob, i assumed i would need a firewall on linux rofl

<Nameless-One> wouldnt*

<ellioTb> ahh, freenode scans the heck outta you for proxies

<Commander-Crowe> brb

<Nameless-One> should i install it, i only just use the comp for surfing, chatting, homework and games

<ellioTb> are you behind a router?

<Nameless-One> yea

<ellioTb> do you have all your ports forwarded to any comp

<Nameless-One> bah i wouldnt know

<ellioTb> as a dmz server or whatever

<ellioTb> i can check for you if you want

<ellioTb> see if you have anything open

<Nameless-One> as long as you dont 1337 |-|4x0r me

<ellioTb> lol, i wont

<ellioTb> scanning...

<ellioTb> if you are behind a router, you are usually ok

<ellioTb> unless you told it to point all connections to a specific computer, like i did

<ellioTb> i put up firestarter cause i like to see all the connects ppl try to do

<ellioTb> ppl still scan for backorifice, lol

<maxamillion> ellioTb: routers are over rated, especially when they are sporting a wireless broadcast

<Nameless-One> prob because so many people still dont have suitable protection

<Nameless-One> like me

<ellioTb> i sport wireless

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<maxamillion> ellioTb: me too, thus ... i firestarter

<Commander-Crowe> some ssh my ip

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: ip?

<Commander-Crowe> IP

<Nameless-One> AHH my entire comp has been |-|4x0red

<Commander-Crowe> ssh 4.246.219.99

<ellioTb> lol, why

<Commander-Crowe> I'm trying to disable whatever is blocking it in my router

<ellioTb> do you have port 23 forwarded?

<ellioTb> err, 24

<Commander-Crowe> so I need someone to test it to see if I was sucessful

<ellioTb> can't remember now, just blanked

<crimsun> why 24?

<crimsun> 22 is ssh

<Commander-Crowe> 24?

<Commander-Crowe> I did 22

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: i can't seem to get anything

<Nameless-One> have you |-|4x0red me yet

<Commander-Crowe> heh

<ellioTb> yeah, i blanked

<ellioTb> Nameless-One, its scanning

<ellioTb> prolly should have done it from my server, instead of this slow wireless connection

<Commander-Crowe> I have a netgear wireless router

<ellioTb> me 2

<Commander-Crowe> how do I disable whatever is stopping you guys?

<maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: me 3

<ellioTb> get on your router, look under security, see if you have a default dmz server

<maxamillion> i got one of thos MiMo routers for free when i worked at BestBuy

<ellioTb> that will forward ALL ports to whatever ip you point that at

<Nameless-One> eeK

<maxamillion> side note: i _hate_ best buy

<Commander-Crowe> do i check DMZ server default?

<Nameless-One> are my ports closed or wide open or am i being impatient

<Commander-Crowe> or uncheck it?

<ellioTb> its scannin

<Nameless-One> :-!

<ellioTb> you didn't even respond to a ping, prolly safe behind the router

<Commander-Crowe> hello?

<Commander-Crowe> me?

<maxamillion> ellioTb: you just nmap'n everyone

<Nameless-One> BOOM!

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, yez

<maxamillion> ?*

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, go to lan ip setup, and set your comp to always have the same ip

<catalytic_> im testing a new irc client, can someone please say my name or direct a message to me

<ellioTb> then change the DMZ server to that

<maxamillion> catalytic_:

<ellioTb> catalytic_,

<Nameless-One> hey catalytic

<maxamillion> :)

<ellioTb> sup catalytic_

<catalytic_> sweeet

<catalytic_> woah

<Commander-Crowe> what shoudl I set the DMZ router to?

<maxamillion> catalytic_: what client?

<catalytic_> ok peeps :)

<Commander-Crowe> 192.168.1.1?

<Commander-Crowe> DMZ server*

<bdgraue> catalytic_:

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, set it to the ip addy of your comp

<catalytic_> just the standard xchat instead of the gnome one

<catalytic_> with tabs

<catalytic_> instead of trees

<Nameless-One> omg CHATZILLA? dam its not

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<ellioTb> i setup lan ip for my server to 192.168.0.20

<ellioTb> then changed the dmz server to .20

<Commander-Crowe> but my router gets internet from another comp

<ellioTb> and checked it, hit apply, voila

<ellioTb> oh weird

<ellioTb> then that comp would have to be port forwarding to your router

<Commander-Crowe> it is

<Commander-Crowe> oh

<Commander-Crowe> to the router?

<Nameless-One> goodbye guys

<ellioTb> yeah

<Commander-Crowe> and then from the router to me?

<maxamillion> bye Nameless-One

<Nameless-One> off to do some history study

<ellioTb> bye Nameless-One

<ellioTb> i'll hax you later

<maxamillion> ok .. i am going to try and get some code written

<ellioTb> nz, no wonder its taking so long

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, the computer that is giving internet would have to be port forwarding to the router

<ellioTb> then the router to you

<ellioTb> thats a lil more tricky

<phlasphy> shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit

<phlasphy> shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit

<phlasphy> shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit

<phlasphy> shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit

<ellioTb> wow

<phlasphy> i cant get into windows

<phlasphy> ohh no

<ellioTb> !spam

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<ellioTb> heh

<ellioTb> what happened

<maxamillion> !language

<ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.

<phlasphy> i installed xubuntu and tried to boot up windows and it just reboots my pc

<maxamillion> phlasphy: not being able to get into windows is a bad thing?

<ellioTb> maxamillion, lol

<ellioTb> yes it is

<phlasphy> yes

<ellioTb> phlasphy, how far does it get

<maxamillion> phlasphy: but on a serious note, its just the grub config file you need to edit

<ellioTb> does it just go to boot, then reboot instantly

<maxamillion> you know ... as much as i don't like C++ ... i really do kinda like it

<phlasphy> no i select windows in grub then it just reboots again

<ellioTb> maxamillion, as much as i hate programming, i really do kinda like it too

<phlasphy> ok what do i edit and where and how

<ellioTb> phlasphy, do this "sudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst"

<ellioTb> then i'll give you a place to paste it

<maxamillion> !patebin

<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi

<maxamillion> !pastebin

<ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)

<maxamillion> :)

<maxamillion> i can't type

<maxamillion> sorry

<ellioTb> !pastebin

<ellioTb> doh, you already did it

<phlasphy> i will use pastebin.ca

<ellioTb> phlasphy, copy and paste it in that site, then give us the link

<ellioTb> http://pastebin.ca/

<phlasphy> yeah

<maxamillion> or pastebin.com ... doesn't matter

<maxamillion> just paste it somewhere :P

<phlasphy> http://pastebin.ca/248981

<ellioTb> trying to remember what rootnoverify does

<ellioTb> seems like i had to do that to fix something

<phlasphy> how can i fix it?

<ellioTb> lemme look

<maxamillion> phlasphy: what is your hard drive partition table look like?

<maxamillion> does*

<phlasphy> umm i want to boot hda1 is windows

<maxamillion> -.-

<maxamillion> yeah ... code ... need to code

<maxamillion> bbl

<phlasphy> hdb1 is swap

<phlasphy> hdb2 is root

<phlasphy> hdb3 is home

<maxamillion> ellioTb: you got this one right?

<ellioTb> maxamillion, yeah i think i got it

<maxamillion> ellioTb: ok, cool

*** maxamillion is now known as max_coding

<ellioTb> phlasphy, try changing under Microsoft Windows XP

<ellioTb> root to rootnoverify

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> and remove "savedefault"

<phlasphy> do i reboot now

<ellioTb> first do this

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> fdisk -l

<ellioTb> thats an L

<phlasphy> what is that

<catalytic_> when you guys want to talk to someone

<ellioTb> sorry, sudo it first

<ellioTb> sudo fdisk -l

<phlasphy> ok

<catalytic_> and you type their name like ellioTb:

<ellioTb> lists your drives/partition

<catalytic_> are you just typing that

<ellioTb> catalytic_, nope

<catalytic_> or do u right click their name and use and action?

<phlasphy> ok what now

<ellioTb> catalytic_, nick completion

<ellioTb> catalytic_, press tab

<catalytic_> ah

<ellioTb> phlasphy, do you see one that says "System"

<catalytic_> awesome

<catalytic_> cheers

<catalytic_> brb\

<ellioTb> then xp or windows nt or something

<phlasphy> yeah

<phlasphy> W95 FAT32 (LBA)

<ellioTb> k, is it /dev/hda1

<phlasphy> yes

<ellioTb> k good

<ellioTb> aight, did you save menu.lst after the changes?

<phlasphy> yes

<ellioTb> k, try a reboot

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> if its a no go, come back, and i'll see if i can find anything else that might fix it

<ellioTb> if that doesn't work

<ellioTb> gluck

<phlasphy> ok

<phlasphy> what i can stay here

<phlasphy> did not work?

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> someone try to ssh me now

<phlasphy> ellioTb: what now

<phlasphy> it says (hd0,0_

<phlasphy> should that be (hda,1) or something

<ellioTb> huh

<ellioTb> hd0,0 is right

<ellioTb> i found something else to try if this doesn't work

<phlasphy> ok

<ellioTb> you gonna try a reboot

<phlasphy> it did not

<phlasphy> i did reboot

<ellioTb> really?

<ellioTb> lol, didn't even see you leave

<phlasphy> i am on a laptop

<ellioTb> ok, lemme pm you so i don't spam with this

<phlasphy> no joy

<ellioTb> ahh, ok

<ellioTb> put everything i just pm'd you under windows xp

<phlasphy> ok

<Commander-Crowe> ssh 4.246.220.56

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, i'll do it

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, no connect

<ellioTb> phlasphy, any luck

<Commander-Crowe> now try

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, doesn't look good

<phlasphy> better than me :)

<ellioTb> phlasphy, rebootin?

<phlasphy> it did not work check pm

<ellioTb> k, lemme look @ something, we'll get it

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> I jsut want to turn off NAT and anything that blocks anything on the router

<Commander-Crowe> how do I do this?

<max_coding> back

*** max_coding is now known as maxamillion

<ellioTb> maxamillion, i failed phlasphy

<maxamillion> :(

<Commander-Crowe> try me again

<Commander-Crowe> I think I got it

<ellioTb> 5 mins, he is installing fedora

<ellioTb> lol

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, ok

<maxamillion> ouch

<maxamillion> if its FC6 i won't complain too much

<ellioTb> well gettin xp to boot when its on a seperate drive than grub is kind of a pain

<ellioTb> it gets mad

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, nothing

<Commander-Crowe> HEH!?!?!?!

<Commander-Crowe> argh

<Commander-Crowe> how do i turn off NAT

<Commander-Crowe> or anything that might be blocking SSH

<ellioTb> do you get that main comp to forward the ports?

<maxamillion> i'm so tired of coding

<maxamillion> ellioTb: yeah ... grub also doesn't like raid all too much

<ellioTb> it likes me :)

<ellioTb> us district court judges grilled the RIAA, thats awsome

<maxamillion> really?

<maxamillion> my boss had a hell of a time with dual booting on a raid

<Commander-Crowe> which IP do I forward it too?

<ellioTb> have the comp forward to the router ip

<ellioTb> then the router to your ip

<ellioTb> *local ip

<Commander-Crowe> ok

<Commander-Crowe> brb

* ellioTb wishes his dog would stop farting

<maxamillion> lol

<maxamillion> my dog farts sometimes and its rank

<ellioTb> i have 3 dogs, two are huge

<ellioTb> a 115lb'r and a 95lb'r

<ellioTb> and their ase packs a punch

<maxamillion> i only have 1 ... its 18lbs right now

<Commander-Crowe> UDP or TCP?

<ellioTb> Commander-Crowe, tcp

<ellioTb> maxamillion, my 3rd dog is 8lbs

<ellioTb> my 115 pounder is the one who farts the most

<maxamillion> lol interesting mix of dogs

<ellioTb> freakin burns my nose

<maxamillion> 115, 95 .... and 8

<ellioTb> 3 dogs, 2 cats, 2 birds and a fish

<ellioTb> lol

<ellioTb> 8lber = my gfs

<maxamillion> rgr

<maxamillion> she live with you i assume?

<ellioTb> roger

<ellioTb> niner

<ellioTb> the cats are hers too

<ellioTb> can't stand em

<Commander-Crowe> OK

<Commander-Crowe> now try it

<maxamillion> ewww, my fiance and i can't stand cats ... glad we agreed on that