| <Sionide> wahh | |
| <Sionide> who watches neighbours? | |
| <PriceChild> i did... | |
| <PriceChild> and i'm amazed i don't anymore seen as i'm at uni | |
| <Sionide> http://38.114.39.175/~ntv/episodes/Enhanced/ | |
| <PriceChild> just don't have a tv :( | |
| <Sionide> problem solved matey | |
| <dsas> I just left #ubuntu-au to find people here talking about neighbours :) | |
| <PriceChild> whoa! | |
| <Sionide> hehe | |
| <PriceChild> where's that from? | |
| <dsas> I did....then I left college, spent a year without a tv and now my tv watching habits have diminished | |
| <Sionide> found it on facebook | |
| <Sionide> not the best quality, but it's good for catching up | |
| <PriceChild> yeh | |
| <PriceChild> *bookmarks* | |
| <PriceChild> just gotta figure out where i left it now :) | |
| <Sionide> lol it's been like a year for me.. | |
| *** dsas is now known as dsas_ | |
| *** dsas_ is now known as dsas | |
| <Sionide> http://blog.i64.pl/PiosBlog/200610/29-linux-keyboard-shortcuts-you-should-know-about/ | |
| <Sionide> woo | |
| <Sionide> most useful website ever | |
| <dsas> I use the vi keybindings for bash...all you have to do then is learn the shortcuts for vi and you're set. | |
| <dsas> bash defaults to emacs style I think | |
| <dsas> g'night all | |
| <popey> Morning all! | |
| * popey waits impatently for google to approve more videos | |
| <CieD> :) | |
| <CieD> working today Al? | |
| <binary2k2> took google about an hour for mine to go live | |
| <popey> url? | |
| <popey> :D | |
| <binary2k2> url...? | |
| <popey> for the video :D | |
| <binary2k2> It's in my email, hold on a sec :P | |
| <binary2k2> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5676029952918957384 | |
| <popey> \o/ blue front page | |
| <popey> like it | |
| <binary2k2> kde style :D | |
| <popey> yeah, it's nice | |
| <popey> have you uploaded to archive.org too? | |
| <binary2k2> yeah, but it isn't showing on there yet | |
| <binary2k2> just have to download the ogg directly | |
| <popey> have you uploaded the mpeg too? | |
| <binary2k2> no, i tryed but my upload stalled part way and I havent had time to start it again | |
| <popey> ahh, ok | |
| <popey> what they do, is if you upload the mpeg they convert it to the otehr formats | |
| <popey> can I add that to quickones? | |
| <binary2k2> ah, well I have to get that done then :P | |
| <popey> or would you rather I didn't? | |
| <binary2k2> yeah, you can | |
| <popey> thanks! | |
| <popey> kubuntu i386? | |
| <binary2k2> yep, kubuntu edgy 386 | |
| <popey> ta | |
| <ubuntu-dave> hey guys, can anyone confirm gb.archive.ubuntu.com repo is up and running? I suspect I'm having DNS issues | |
| <popey> binary2k2: what's the app called? adept? | |
| <binary2k2> somethin like "Installing updates with adept" | |
| <popey> "Installing updates on Kubuntu with adept"? | |
| <binary2k2> maybe "Installing updates on Kubuntu with adept" so search for kubuntu will show it | |
| <binary2k2> ubuntu-dave: apt-get update shows no errors with gb archive | |
| <binary2k2> ubuntu-dave: check what "host gb.archive.ubuntu.com" shows | |
| <ubuntu-dave> thank you - will find another DNS server for this i guess! | |
| <ubuntu-dave> 1.0.0.0 lol.... ;) | |
| <binary2k2> that's your problem then :P | |
| <binary2k2> check /etc/resolv.conf | |
| <ubuntu-dave> using router's dns/ISPs (192.168.1.1) - changed it, seems ot be working now | |
| <ubuntu-dave> (everything else worked fine - freaky!) | |
| <ubuntu-dave> all good now, grabbing a couple of packages - thanks for checking | |
| <binary2k2> no problem :D | |
| <binary2k2> popey: I was gonna send an email with the links to the list, but I accentally sent it to the kubuntu-usres group :P | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <binary2k2> which i was going to do anyway, but later | |
| <popey> do you have an email address so I can register you on my site and then your name will appear under it | |
| <popey> it won't spam you or anything | |
| <popey> and your email addy is private | |
| <popey> <binary_y2k2@blueyonder.co.uk> | |
| <popey> that okay? | |
| <binary2k2> use: binary2k2@gmail.com , same as on the screencast | |
| <popey> ok | |
| <binary2k2> the blueyonder one sometimes breaks, and I hate webmail :P | |
| <popey> http://quickones.org/Installing_updates_on_Kubuntu_with_adept | |
| <popey> that rocks! | |
| <binary2k2> kewl :D | |
| <binary2k2> I have a bit of catching up with all the screencasts for ubuntu you made :P | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> I have two more to go live today :) | |
| <popey> I have done one on evolution - if you could do one on kmail that would redress the balance :) | |
| <binary2k2> I'll have to start using kamil then :P | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> what do you use? | |
| <popey> thunderbird? | |
| <binary2k2> thunderbird yeah | |
| <popey> do one on that then :) | |
| <binary2k2> i don't even use adept tho :P | |
| <binary2k2> i use synaptic :D | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <binary2k2> and I probably need to do one on konversation too | |
| <popey> yeah, good idea | |
| <binary2k2> might be a good idea to do one on file management | |
| <binary2k2> konqueror for kubuntu and nautilus on ubuntu | |
| <binary2k2> try and get all the basics outta the way | |
| <popey> yeah, agreed | |
| <popey> people keep asking me if I'm going to do really advanced stuff like beryl and twin screens | |
| <popey> but I think there's enough of the basics to keep people going first | |
| <binary2k2> the beryl one alone whould be an hour long :P | |
| <binary2k2> and even then probably wouldn't cover most of it | |
| <binary2k2> considering your targeting new users | |
| <popey> and would be a bitch to record | |
| <binary2k2> my CPU would probably melt :P | |
| <popey> aaaaand | |
| <popey> another ones goes live :) | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <mrben> popey: new screencast? | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> http://quickones.org/ | |
| <mrben> \o/ | |
| <popey> there'll be another shortly | |
| * mrben surfs on over | |
| <popey> they're all pretty basic stuff | |
| <popey> I don't expect anyone here to learn anything | |
| <mrben> we just like to listen to your silky tones | |
| <popey> hahah | |
| <popey> one was recorded at about half midnight last night so might not be quite so silky as the others :) | |
| <mrben> :) | |
| <binary2k2> damn, now i have to do one about kopete :P | |
| <mrben> popey: yay for the lugradio cameo | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <mrben> however, the video seems to be stopping at 4:41 for me | |
| <popey> oh? | |
| <popey> the flash one? | |
| <mrben> yeah | |
| <popey> knackers | |
| <mrben> just stopped dead | |
| <popey> ok, one mo | |
| <popey> which? xchat or gaim? | |
| <mrben> gaim | |
| <binary2k2> me too, but that may be the flash9 i have | |
| <mrben> I'm on flash9 too | |
| <mrben> under firefox/windows | |
| <binary2k2> if you move the slider past 4:41 everything speeds up :P | |
| <popey> yea, looks badgered | |
| <popey> bum | |
| * popey removes for now | |
| <mrben> :( | |
| <popey> that's what comes of trying to do 3 of them at mightnight :S | |
| <popey> interestingly the ogg version plays fine up to 6:19 | |
| <popey> blames his usb memory stick | |
| * popey re-uploads to google | |
| * popey adds http://quickones.org/Introduction_to_Evolution | |
| <mrben> cool | |
| <mrben> will watch in a minute | |
| <popey> just tried re-uploading the gaim one and it says it's fine | |
| <popey> plays okay here too | |
| <mrben> popey: gaim one showing as offline? | |
| <popey> yes, took it offline due to your reported problem | |
| <popey> can make it available again | |
| <mrben> ah. ok | |
| <popey> done | |
| <mrben> watching the evolution one now | |
| <popey> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5164447198158597688 | |
| <mrben> popey: do you have to do many 'takes'? | |
| <popey> what's a take? | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> it's one long video | |
| <mrben> do you never make mistakes? | |
| <popey> there's no editing - it's done in one shot :) | |
| <popey> nope | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> all of my videos are done in one take | |
| * mrben is in the presence of greatness | |
| <popey> heheh | |
| <popey> and there's a good reason I do that | |
| <popey> video editing on linux blows goats | |
| <mrben> heh | |
| <binary2k2> the video's in one go, the voice recording takes most of the time, besides encodeing :P | |
| * mrben has done a lot of editing in Linux | |
| <mrben> and it does blow goats | |
| <mrben> Kino is the best of a bad bunch | |
| <mrben> I'm hoping that Diva and Pitivi will change that | |
| <popey> there was a suggestion at the ubuntu-uk meeting that there should be a vidkosher | |
| <popey> video editing like jokosher | |
| <popey> divi has all but been dropped | |
| <mrben> I think pitivi will be like that | |
| <popey> diva even | |
| <mrben> really? | |
| <mrben> damn | |
| <binary2k2> google vid still stops at 4:41 for me (gaim) | |
| <popey> hmm | |
| <popey> the mpeg is fine here | |
| <popey> http://ia331309.us.archive.org/3/items/Connecting_to_IRC_Using_GAIM/20061111_gaim_irc.mpeg | |
| <mrben> ooo - /me learns something new | |
| <mrben> didn't know you could create tasks from emails | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| <mrben> I really wish that Evolution had some sort of date parsing on emails to make it easier to add calendar entries from emails | |
| <mrben> (a la Zimbra) | |
| <mrben> popey: have you found Evolution to be any more flaky in Edgy? | |
| <popey> i rarely use it any more | |
| <popey> i use mutt | |
| <mrben> heh | |
| <mrben> I originally started using Evolution because I could sync it with my PDA | |
| <mrben> but now I don't use my PDA much anymore | |
| <mrben> maybe I should.... | |
| <popey> i don't find it too unstable though when i use it | |
| <mrben> actually, the problem may be an ISP related one, especially since I use IMAP | |
| * popey is miffed about the gaim video | |
| <mrben> :( | |
| <popey> especially as the original media is at home | |
| * popey scps it | |
| <mrben> :) | |
| <mrben> yay for ssh/scp | |
| <mrben> evolution one is very good | |
| <popey> thank you | |
| <popey> With the first ones I am making, I am trying to show people that linux isn't all about the command line | |
| <popey> you'll notice none have touched the command line yet | |
| <binary2k2> mpeg play fine for me too, the avi download from google wont play right tho, sound drops at "it fund another channel called (hash)lug..." | |
| <popey> I intend to avoid that as long as possible | |
| <popey> ah, ok | |
| <popey> hmmm, wonder how that's happened | |
| <popey> I'll just re-make the mpeg | |
| <popey> and ponder whether to do "changing the look of your desktop (customizing colours/background/panels etc" or "basic navigation in nautilus" tonight | |
| <popey> maybe both as they're quite easy | |
| <binary2k2> i 'm gonna have to try batch screencasting :P | |
| <binary2k2> record all the vids first and put them together one by one | |
| <popey> yeah | |
| <binary2k2> good job i don't have work today :P | |
| <popey> I recorded 3 videos then later do the audio | |
| <binary2k2> I find it help to jot out some key points before I start recording, so I know what i'm going to be talking about and what to show | |
| <popey> yeah, I do that too.. http://popey.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VideoDemos :) | |
| <popey> each of those has a synopsis of what each video should contain and what the user should get out of it | |
| <binary2k2> you got quite a project on you hands :P | |
| <binary2k2> we'll have to try and get the "team" to help out | |
| <popey> well I have been planning to do a load of screencasts for a while | |
| <popey> as you can see by the date stamps | |
| <popey> so really I don't mind if I do end up doing it myself as I planned to anyway, but if other people are willing to help - and indeed create screencsasts for apps i don't know or don't have (i.e. KDE stuff) then that's a winner for everyone | |
| <mrben> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2531 <- cunning | |
| <binary2k2> you never know, maybe canonical will start sending them out with CDs :P | |
| <mrben> popey: I agree with you about avoiding the command line | |
| <mrben> popey: ever since I've installed Ubuntu, I've been trying to do 95% of things via the GUI, so that I know how | |
| <popey> from my personal selfish perspective I'd like to get ubuntu certified as an individual and then also get my company as an affiliate, i figure doing this stuff can only help along that track | |
| <mrben> popey: yeah | |
| <mrben> I'd like to get ubuntu certified too :( | |
| <popey> need to do lpic 101, 102 before 99 though | |
| <popey> probably do that in the new year | |
| <popey> I made the BEST fish pie yesterday | |
| <popey> salmon, haddock, cod poached in a fishy creamy sauce then plopped in a dish with a shitload of prawns, some tomatoes (chopped) and two chopped up boiled eggs | |
| <popey> cover with mash and shove in the oven | |
| <popey> best fish pie eva! | |
| <binary2k2> you should put the recipe on your wiki :P | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> I might do one later called "the command line isn't scary" | |
| <binary2k2> you have to learn it some time, like when you break you X server :P | |
| <popey> yeah, that's a good one actually | |
| <popey> "reconfiguring X using the terminal when you fuck it up" | |
| <popey> :0 | |
| * popey adds that to the list | |
| <binary2k2> :P | |
| <binary2k2> maybe one (much later) on "Why keeping a backup is important!" | |
| <popey> yeah, is there a kde backup app? | |
| <popey> there's Sbackup for gnome and hubackup | |
| <binary2k2> its called Keep :P | |
| <popey> nice | |
| <popey> we should get someone who uses xfce to do some too | |
| <popey> and edubuntu | |
| <popey> I have downloaded all the ISOs for all of the variants, was going to do a "how to install" for each one | |
| <binary2k2> the install should be the same for all of them, right? | |
| <binary2k2> i'm just uploading the mpeg version of my s'cast to archive.org is there anything i need to do after upload? besides check it in | |
| <popey> when you check in, set the titles of the videos, down the bottom | |
| <popey> then submit, it will then process for a while, generating the other versions | |
| <popey> http://www.archive.org/details/Using_Evolution <-- note down the left hand side | |
| <popey> I only upload MPEG2 video, OGG video and OGG (audio only) yet they transcode them to other formats for nothing | |
| <popey> \o/ archive.org | |
| <popey> they rock | |
| <binary2k2> nice servce, i didn't even know they existed a few days ago :P | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> we use them for our lug videos | |
| <loudmouthman> Morning | |
| <popey> Indeed it is | |
| <loudmouthman> popey do you and I ever do anything but hang out here ? | |
| <popey> Yes | |
| <popey> sometimes I go to the loo | |
| <loudmouthman> thats | |
| <loudmouthman> to much info | |
| <loudmouthman> talk about the daily download though | |
| <popey> have you seen quickones this morning? we have a great submission from binary2k2 | |
| <popey> our first kubuntu video | |
| <binary2k2> :D | |
| <loudmouthman> yeah. does that mean we can look forward to a Xubuntu video, and it will stay in theme since it will be a tenth the size of the others and only avialable in black and white becasue it works on older kit ! | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <loudmouthman> this is good though because it is showing that we took an idea and are taking it through to completion . I guess now its about finding ways to make it easier to create them | |
| <binary2k2> once you get going, it's not too difficult to make them, just time consuming to make it good :P | |
| <popey> agreed | |
| <popey> In a way that's a good thing. I think if everyone punched them out the quality would dip | |
| <popey> IMHO | |
| <popey> not that I am the sole arbitor of all that is quality in screencasts, but I think I've proved they can be done well | |
| <popey> I've seen some shocking ones on google video | |
| <binary2k2> just look at utube :P | |
| <popey> and I don't think we should go down the road of punching out hundreds of them | |
| <loudmouthman> well we cant all be picassos but its inevitable that if we make it easy to create that we will get bad ones. but theres nothing to say that we wont find a few rembrandts as well. | |
| <popey> true, true | |
| <binary2k2> unless we get a group of opeople working on them, by the time we got half of them done Feisty will be out :P | |
| <binary2k2> poeple* | |
| <popey> also very true | |
| <popey> someone in #lugradio has offered to translate the how-to into french | |
| <binary2k2> i was gonna say, maybe other LoCo teams can follow the UK example | |
| <binary2k2> tho, they should make local vsersion, because of the english gui | |
| <popey> there are of course other people making screencasts | |
| <binary2k2> yeah, a quick google shows up loads | |
| <popey> Dennis Daniels made a load (which IMO suck) | |
| <popey> he means well, and is very keen for others to do the same, but they're just painful to watch | |
| <popey> so loudmouthman what's the plan for approval? | |
| <loudmouthman> um the plan . heheh . | |
| <loudmouthman> well if I suggested a plan people might feel i was taking the lead <wry grin> . but the plan is to review the Page provided and add any and all relevant contributions and demonstrations of experience . such as quickones.org | |
| <popey> well I know at least three of us (me, dsas and caroline ford) have been providing support via the launchpad ticket system | |
| <popey> that should go in there | |
| <loudmouthman> yep . | |
| <loudmouthman> and we need demonstrations of other acvities, screencasts, expos, fairs, lug, advocacy and awareness | |
| <loudmouthman> I an add my clients machines running ubuntu servers and my BNI one hour a week offer | |
| <loudmouthman> ive actually got a client moving from XP to Ubuntu in the comming weeks as well | |
| <loudmouthman> wow that killed the conversation | |
| <AdamBagnall> Morning all | |
| <popey> Yo! | |
| <loudmouthman> yo] | |
| <popey> might have to email my next door neighbour and give him a ribbing about java going GPL | |
| <popey> he works for sun | |
| <loudmouthman> Hey Its Adam "Do the Housie coat dance" Bagnall | |
| <popey> he doesn't like the GPL | |
| * AdamBagnall pokes loudmouthman | |
| * popey pokes loudmouthman with a stick | |
| <loudmouthman> what the hell is with the Poking. hes the ex CH guy . sheesh ! | |
| * loudmouthman grabs the fscking large bat of retrib-fucking-bution and swipes the channel down with his almight mightness of might! | |
| <AdamBagnall> so now Java is GPLed will project looking glass get more attention? | |
| <popey> hahaha | |
| * popey wonders if the GPL licensing will be retrospective or only apply to new versions | |
| <AdamBagnall> loudmouthman: you were saying the other day that the England cricket bats are made by wormwood, Well that company was founded and is run by ex-ch people, so suck on that :-p | |
| <loudmouthman> i KNOW | |
| <loudmouthman> hehe hge | |
| <AdamBagnall> 4 mins till lunch | |
| * AdamBagnall is sitting watching the clock | |
| <loudmouthman> any way .. why would I want to suck on it ? | |
| <loudmouthman> you know this channel does tend to contain language ! | |
| <loudmouthman> right im of to grab a sandwhich... | |
| <mrben> what's CH? | |
| <mrben> as in : | |
| <mrben> 11:52 < loudmouthman> what the hell is with the Poking. hes the ex CH guy . sheesh ! | |
| <popey> heheeh | |
| <popey> a mail from a guy on Kent LUG | |
| <popey> "You are e a machine Mr President. 4 Screencast released overnight! | |
| <popey> Must be easy with all the White House staff behind you and the Secret | |
| <popey> Service stopping USB devices from being unplugged :-)" | |
| <loudmouthman> Ch = Christ Hospital | |
| * loudmouthman raises eyebrow at the notion of your other nickname Mr Pope | |
| <popey> heh, yeah | |
| <popey> he listened to lugradio at the weekend | |
| <popey> wow | |
| <loudmouthman> wow ? | |
| <popey> also got a personal mail thanking me for a screencast | |
| <loudmouthman> ahhh thats sweet. ! | |
| <loudmouthman> oh well thats a +1 charisma modifier if ever they existed | |
| <popey> yeah, from a guy who is from the midlands, is disabled and is tryingto learn linux and ubuntu | |
| <popey> "I hope you will find time to do more ( Please) ?" | |
| <popey> that's motivation enough for me | |
| <loudmouthman> cool . well more power to the ego ^H^H^H Elbow ;-) | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> hell yeah | |
| <popey> (to both) | |
| <loudmouthman> i was all set to have a afternoon of admin and now I have 2 new client leads to discuss ( yeah ! ) and 1 client site to visit because the windows boxes are dead and dying! | |
| <loudmouthman> I tell yah im grabbing a damned Ubuntu CD and loading bloody Crossover on those machines if its another virus | |
| <loudmouthman> so bang goes any planned productivity again . | |
| <loudmouthman> actually if theres anyone in Newbury wants to take on some work for me. | |
| <loudmouthman> right of to client site .. laters | |
| <popey> aaaghrhrhrhrhrhr | |
| <popey> someone just MSN'ed me "popey the guitar toting president ;)" | |
| <binary2k2> eww MSN :P | |
| <popey> hhe | |
| <binary2k2> or is it "windows live messenger" now? | |
| <popey> need to do a podcast about that too | |
| <popey> we could do a simulcast :) you record the kde end, I record the gnome end :) | |
| <popey> that has GOT to be a first | |
| <popey> simulscreencast | |
| <binary2k2> that'll be interesting :P | |
| <popey> might need a *little* editing ;) | |
| <binary2k2> mix the vids "this is how you do this part in KDE, and now to Alan's for the Gnome part" :P | |
| <binary2k2> something's up with archive.org, there's a whole page full of "Not ready yet. Waiting 10 seconds for checkin..." | |
| <popey> it does that | |
| <popey> takes a while for them to copy the files from the staging ftp server to the production location | |
| <binary2k2> ahh | |
| * popey farts | |
| * mrben passes out from asphyxiation | |
| <littletank> just trying things out | |
| <littletank> good bye | |
| <popey> as I have silly bandwidth at work and crap bandwidth at home, I am tempted to just go nuts creating screencasts at home and not both uploading them until the next day | |
| <popey> makes more sense than sitting waiting for stuff at home | |
| *** AdamBagnall is now known as Adam_screen | |
| <X3N> anyone here with the halifax ? | |
| <mrben> not any more, sorry | |
| <mrben> well - I have a savings account with them | |
| <mrben> but not a current account | |
| <X3N> apparently my account is in arrears | |
| <X3N> but seeming i've not been given a statement or been asked to pay my credit card bill i can't see how it can be | |
| <mrben> really? damn | |
| <AdamBagnall> Sure it's not a good phishing email? :-) | |
| <mrben> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/tnradio/bio/billhilf.mspx | |
| <mrben> oops - wrong window | |
| <X3N> it was a notice on my online banking | |
| <anti-net_> Afternoon | |
| <popey> moo | |
| <anti-net_> baah | |
| <popey> home time | |
| <binary2k2> archive.org is still not ready yet | |
| <AdamBagnall> binary2k2, I just watched your screencast on quickones.org It's good, well done. | |
| <binary2k2> thanks :D | |
| <binary2k2> I'm planning to do more | |
| <binary2k2> Free and Open Source Java: http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/ | |
| <popey> moo | |
| <anti-net_> baah! | |
| <binary2k2> archive.org finally worked http://www.archive.org/details/Installing_Updates_Kubuntu | |
| <anti-net_> awesome binary2k2 | |
| <anti-net_> I think I might install Kubuntu on my desktop, tho im so use to GNOME its a bit of a change | |
| <apokryphos> kubuntu++ | |
| <anti-net_> I do think KDE is more stable and solid than GNOME | |
| <anti-net_> just feels "tighter" if you get what I mean | |
| <binary2k2> KDE rules! :P | |
| * chaddy used to use KDE but since I started using Ubuntu I'm all about the Gnome | |
| * AdamBagnall agrees with chaddy | |
| <MattJ> Xfce rules ;P | |
| * anti-net_ also agrees with MattJ | |
| <anti-net_> I have no problem with eaither | |
| <anti-net_> the KDE vs GNOME battles are pointless imo | |
| <AdamBagnall> wahey choice | |
| <anti-net_> :) | |
| <anti-net_> you can do a course in Open Source Devolopment Tools now: http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/bin/p12.dll?C01TT381 | |
| <anti-net_> tho im thinking i may do this one: http://www.abertay.ac.uk/Courses/CDetails.cfm?RID=1&CID=363&Key=002 | |
| * MattJ is running Xubuntu | |
| <MattJ> I only found this channel this afternoon :P | |
| <anti-net_> I found it about a week ago, its a nice channel, lots of nice people | |
| <chaddy> in that case, welcom MattJ | |
| <chaddy> I'm in xubuntu at the moment, too | |
| <mafitzpatrick> hello all... since i'm dropping in on a kde vs. gnome thing, you might want to look at my tutorial for making KDE look like Gnome http://www.mutube.com/ubuntu/kubuntu-like-ubuntu - makes the arguments even less pointless! :) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> people here for the meeting 9:30? | |
| <AdamBagnall> guten abend tsmithe | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Evening all . | |
| <AdamBagnall> Evening | |
| <tsmithe> es is nicht so gut... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dah! | |
| <MattJ> chaddy: Great, and thanks :) | |
| <anti-net_> Evening LoudMouthMan | |
| <anti-net_> evening tsmithe | |
| <tsmithe> hi | |
| * tsmithe must do english coursework... | |
| <anti-net_> ahhh I remeber doing english coursework | |
| <chaddy> meeting mafitzpatrick? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello Anti-net | |
| <tsmithe> anti-net_ i dunno how to organise me time... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahh engrish remember I | |
| <mafitzpatrick> there was something ont he mailing list - Nik Butler was planning a meeting here about getting team approval methinks. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> bit later on though. | |
| <anti-net_> you on Ubuntu? | |
| <anti-net_> that was directed at tsmithe btw :p | |
| <anti-net_> Tomboy is great for just managing life | |
| <tsmithe> anti-net_ yup | |
| <tsmithe> how? | |
| * anti-net_ is slowly importanting the consents of his brain to Tomboy | |
| <anti-net_> works like a Wiki | |
| <tsmithe> i tried it once. didnt really understand... | |
| <tsmithe> i mean... yeah i can put note in it... but i dont have any notes | |
| <mafitzpatrick> you have to train yourself for it to be the first thing you open when you start your computer - so you see what you have to do | |
| <tsmithe> well you see... i know i have to do the coursework... | |
| <tsmithe> i just dont | |
| <anti-net_> turn off IRC, GAIM etc | |
| <mafitzpatrick> i'm bad at organising because i automatically start Firefox & then spend a couple of hours browsing email, news & slashdot before I realise i havem't done anything i meant to | |
| <mafitzpatrick> you could use evolution for the calendar to plan it all out - although planning can become a bit of compulsive way of avoiding work | |
| <mafitzpatrick> google calendar ( calendar.google.com ) | |
| <tsmithe> me too!!! | |
| * anti-net_ still has a load of JSP diagrams to do, I blame you guys! | |
| <anti-net_> and digg | |
| <anti-net_> basicly I blame everyone but me :P | |
| <tsmithe> can someone ban me from here so i can do my english coursework? | |
| <tsmithe> please | |
| <anti-net_> tsmithe, where do you live? | |
| <tsmithe> kent why? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> You really need to set yourself specific times to do things - to the hour - and stick to it. | |
| <anti-net_> K, do your coursework, or i'll drive up to kent and break your legs | |
| <anti-net_> :-P | |
| <mafitzpatrick> At the very least, make sure you start when you plan (you can always stop a bit early if you're bored) | |
| <tsmithe> BAN ME! | |
| <mafitzpatrick> ...but this is coming from someone who did both his coursework projects the night before :\ | |
| <anti-net_> tsmithe, are you doing it at GCSE leval? | |
| <chaddy> if I want to do stuff I just do Ctrl a, d | |
| <tsmithe> anti-net_ yeah | |
| <chaddy> as if by magic irssi disappears | |
| * anti-net_ checks to see if hes still got his essays from last year | |
| <anti-net_> I just had the plesure of finshing my GCSEs you see tsmithe | |
| <tsmithe> oh... i dont want yours | |
| <tsmithe> really | |
| <tsmithe> i want it to be mine ;) | |
| <anti-net_> Bah | |
| <anti-net_> kids of today | |
| <tsmithe> what did you get? | |
| <anti-net_> waay to honest for my liking | |
| <anti-net_> B i think | |
| <tsmithe> hah! | |
| <tsmithe> im going for A* | |
| <anti-net_> pish | |
| <anti-net_> n00b | |
| <tsmithe> nope | |
| <tsmithe> going for oxford | |
| <tsmithe> :) | |
| <tsmithe> byee! | |
| <anti-net_> damn kids | |
| <tsmithe> what? | |
| <anti-net_> erh never mid | |
| <anti-net_> mind* | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Popey heres one for your screencast cue from the isla digg. http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cheers | |
| <popey> \o/ binary2k2 added your links to archive.org to http://quickones.org/Installing_updates_on_Kubuntu_with_adept | |
| <dsas> hey all | |
| <AdamBagnall> Hyello | |
| <popey> moo | |
| <AdamBagnall> baa | |
| <dsas> quack | |
| <anti-net_> Nay | |
| <popey> \o/ screencast time | |
| <anti-net_> what is it today? | |
| <popey> customising the look of your desktop | |
| <popey> background, themes, panels, etc | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heh Popey will yo be around at 9.30 till 10.30 ? | |
| <popey> if i crack on and start recording now, yeah | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay then go go go .! | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> ttfn | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right who can educate me about changing the topic Id like to make it clear we are talking about the Approval appliaction between 9.30 and 10.30 ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> bye Popey . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> who was that masked man ? | |
| <gord> din't forget to mention that just because when you first select a theme it looks like somethin you havn't seen before, that doesn't mean that its a good idea to have a bright purple gui with neon green sparkles | |
| <gord> don't* | |
| <dsas> LoudMouthMan: I think you just write /topic Approval Application Meeting | |
| <dsas> or something | |
| <dsas> (I've never ran an IRC channel, so buyer beware) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> you need to be an op for that to work no? | |
| <dsas> mafitzpatrick: Loudmouthman is an OP afaik | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas . yeah but I dont want to blat the previous topic string <grin> | |
| <mafitzpatrick> ahh :) | |
| <dsas> LoudMouthMan: Copy it, append to it, paste it? :) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> it don't show up in my list, sorry for that | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well duh <grin> .. man I hate casting mymind back to really old #runequest days! | |
| <binary2k2> in konverstion you can append the topic from a gui :P | |
| <LoudMouthMan> arf arf .. well in livingroom 1.1 we can deal only with one thing at a time. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and im op but frankly im more op by default than op because I have clue.. im more the clue delagtor | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ooh scuse me ... tesco have delivered! | |
| *** MattJ_ is now known as MattJ | |
| <MattJ> lol | |
| <LoudMouthMan> done | |
| <LoudMouthMan> back | |
| <dsas> hmm, half past? I'll run and put the washing in... | |
| <mafitzpatrick> 6minutes. Record delivery. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> between Tesco deliveries and a new series of numbers and studio60 I think life is conspiring to avoid anything to do with getting our application in ! | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Number of substitutions? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mafitzpatick who cares, the wife does all that i just cook ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheh | |
| <mafitzpatrick> hah. fair enough. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> wow 33 in tonight. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> 32 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> damn! | |
| <mafitzpatrick> What time is the scheduled start? half past, or just as and when? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> 9.30 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> if we start early people will moan so I figure 9.30 call to order. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and yes im taking notes at that point. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Sounds good. I'm here for the duration anyway, got a few things to bring up. Should be more, it's a nicely active group. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay well i'll go post an agenda on the wiki then hehe! | |
| <gord> hrmm, is there a meeting tonight? | |
| <dsas> gord: Yes, yes there is. We're discussing http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ApprovalApplication | |
| <gord> ahh, Iv been avoiding that on the mailing list... think Ill just watch ;) | |
| <dsas> gord: Feel free to weigh in with your opinion :) | |
| <gord> right now my prevailing opinion happens to concern with the lack of coffee in my cup, but if anything comes up that I feel isn't right, Ill be sure to hark | |
| <LoudMouthMan> here we go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UkTeam/MeetingNotes/20061113Meeting?action=show | |
| <LoudMouthMan> thats the basic agenda and guidelines for people . | |
| *** LoudMouthMan changes topic to "Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! | Edgy Upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Home: http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UkTeam/MeetingNotes/20061113Meeting meeting in progress" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Right good evening everyone its 9.30 and before we all get rolling on this meeting , can I ask that if you have any other points that you either 1) add them to the wiki page or 2) msg me privately. will the be okay and clear for everyone ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> finally if we have any latecomers or new members who drop in on the meeting lets jus let them know that we will get to them asap. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so if this is okay can we begin, ? i guess a yes/okay/yep is useful here. | |
| <dsas> lets roll | |
| <mafitzpatrick> yup | |
| <anti-net_> Yes | |
| <binary2k2> yep | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh and can others please log this in case something fscks up on my end <grin> | |
| <anti-net_> I am logging | |
| <binary2k2> don't LoCoBot log? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Well as you know we had a great show at the Linux World Expo and that Jono is keen to see the UK join the list of Approved Teams. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> binary2k2 .. probably but lets keep this easy <Grin> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Now I was suprised to admit that I thougth Jono would be in charge and it turns out his in charge of all things Locoteam world wide. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> So its up to us to produce something which enables Jono to take a fair and measured view of the proposal of the UKTeam to become approved. | |
| <popey> ola | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I have already asked Melissa Draper to assist in mentoring and I have read a few other applications and lets just say that whilst we have the experience in the group we just need to write about it more. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> So . Id like to hand this over to every one to talk about the following | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [ TOPIC ] | |
| <LoudMouthMan> UK Team Approval , what do we need to add to experience and what can be demonstrated that we can add. Should we add more to the road map ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so . over to the channel for the next 10 minutes... can we talk about experience and what could be added ? I'll keep the timer running and keep notes. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> over to you ! | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Is it possible to see other teams applications, or was this a one-off privelege? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> (P.S. Thanks for the intro) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> it is possible, but I lost those likes. It wasnt clear as to the "position" on that though. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> s/likes/links/ | |
| <popey> personally I don't think we need bother with other loco teams applications | |
| <popey> our application will stand on its own merit | |
| <mafitzpatrick> I agree, it's more than I'm not entirely clear at this point /what/ we should be including in an application. It's more a question of form over content. | |
| <dsas> mafitzpatrick: They're on the wiki, search for ApprovalApplication | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but this is the example that Jono holds up as a standard [ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam ] | |
| <popey> I think we should put forward what we have done honestly and see what happens | |
| <gord> I have always thought that we are in a unique position as the uk team, not so much about the standard translating and grass roots promotion that other teams go though, more of the promotion to businesses and getting open standards out there in the wild (like at the bbc). is there anything we can show off in that direction? | |
| <popey> ok, so copy/paste that and modify to suit? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Perhaps a list of achievements to date - much in the same way that we have plans for the future? | |
| <popey> agreed | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so. Merits/Evidence of Deliveryand Achievements. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> I guess we have this in one format currently with the Projects list on the current wiki (although this could be perhaps be tidied up to hilight active & productive projects vs. ideas). Things such as the current screencasting are highly valuable & real group achievements, coming out of a collaborative team effort. | |
| <gord> it might be nice to see more detail in our plans for the future as well, right now we just have a general description on the wiki with people assigned (or not) to it. what about having the people that are assigned to different plans giving a brief report on what they have done and how they plan to achieve the rest? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> As you say gord, the BBC stuff is all good. Even down to letters people have published making FLOSS a talked-about subject in the media. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> When you start thinking about it, there really has been a lot of action in various places. All that (however small) should be shouted about. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Good point gord. I think the current "projects" are that in little more than name at the moment. A sort of thing that is being done. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> * rather than a more defined thing (I realise that made no sense) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Is the Wiki the main point for organising this (vs. the website)? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay so ten minutes ( about ) and what we are considering is .Projects and Evidence of Achievements. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mafitzpatrick : yes I would like to think so . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> the wiki is the best point for the team so far. | |
| <popey> best "point"? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so if I can I would like to break down the topics | |
| <popey> best achievement? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heeh mi getting there | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Good, good. ("best point of contact?") | |
| <popey> ah | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Go ahead. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so We need to discuss two things I feel 1) Projects as Experience and things we are doing. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> then . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> 2 ) Achievements and results as they relate to those project. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> in turn this creates the Experience page better. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> at this point I realise it gives me more to put into the Application and it shows our contribution to the English wiki which is a LocoTeam thing to do. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so . lets break this down before we put it back to gether if I can. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [ TOPIC ] Projects. Can we/people here/ please consider the Projects on our Wiki and any other projects they feel that should be added and discuss them here for the next 5 minutes ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> over to you .. cheers | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Well, taking the first on the list (LinuxWorldExpo). There is an opporunity there for write-up/reflection of the event. In effect that is now on hold til next year(?) and it would be good to show we've learnt something from the event. | |
| <anti-net_> I think Education is a good way to go, mainly becuase of my fushtrations of having to use closed applications, and the legal issue, At my college piracy is encoured due to the high price of applicatons, it is a great area to bring Open Source (imo) | |
| <popey> LWE taught is that there is a great value in talking to the public | |
| <popey> answering questions | |
| <popey> and giving out CDs | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Get that on the Wiki! heh. | |
| <dsas_> Personally I've ordered a few cds hoping to give them out to the linux advocating lecturers to hand out in their programming classes. | |
| <dsas_> Not sure whether or not that counts as something for the future. | |
| <anti-net_> dsas_, i did the same, tho some got used as frisbies :( | |
| <mafitzpatrick> It's stuff like this that I think is worth noting on the Wiki where possible - if it comes from the group. I guess we also need to include explicit encouragement to request support from the group in doing this. Information / experience sharing again. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay .. so anymore Projects.. ? | |
| <gord> perhaps another project might be to educate small businesses on the virtues of floss and obviously ubuntu, along with getting floss in education I have always felt that for floss to get into every day use it has to be used by the small businesses, dropping their reliance on the overly expensive (for them) proprietary software | |
| <mafitzpatrick> There is the Screencasting / How-to making that is going on a lot now (a big plus for us I feel) | |
| <anti-net_> how about trying to get a UK-based PC vendor to sell PC with Ubuntu pre-installed, Just an idea off the stop of my head | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Now *that* would be an achievement | |
| <AdamBagnall> already done, www.linuxemporium.co.uk | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay .. any more ? | |
| <gord> they are mostly locked into microsoft, but talking to the government about the issue might help (talk to your local mp) and talking to the smaller local pc shops | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Should we be concentrating on current achievements at this point (creating application) or is listing ideas acceptable for this? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> both | |
| <gord> also shouldn't the ? next to the localisation project get resolved? ie: who's doing what? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Media Coverage is a worthy goal (as a means to an end, rather than end in itself). I remember someone on the list had success there. | |
| <apokryphos> nice | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord before I cal ltime can you expand on that please ? and matfitzpatick i think thats very important inthe uk especially .. | |
| <dsas_> the localisation for commonwealth english is being done by the ubuntu-l10n-gb team on LP | |
| <dsas_> as far as I know, no-one is handling welsh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay so .. next point . and thanks for the points above . I will use the projects page | |
| <LoudMouthMan> specifically pointing to LWE/Edu/SME | |
| <gord> the welsh localisation LoudMouthMan, its flagged as active but has a ? next to the members, for someone who might want to for example help they wouldn't know who to contact | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord. okay so lets add that to roadmap [ IDEA ] and see if we can find a Welsh Ubuntu advocate. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so onwards | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [ TOPIC ] Achievements, reflecting on the previous point what can we point to as achievements either fromthe projects or as indivdual contributions. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> we have 5 minutes no this again <grin> | |
| <gord> the screencasts obviously, might be worth a mention for the mailing list as an avenue of support for some people | |
| <mafitzpatrick> LinuxWorld2005, Screencasting, How-tos, Media Coverage, LUG involvement (ISTR) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> That's true - I think we're fairly welcoming for a mailing list. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> can I ask if anyone can be more specific to post here on on the wiki then , cheers. .Nik the lazy. | |
| <AdamBagnall> T-shirt signing for children in need | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [IDEA] can we be more supportive of a charity or 5 ? .. discuss later in any other points. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> I think it's difficult to pick a particular charity to focus on, although we could choose 1 per year I guess. I am in favour of something sort of related to what we're doing but with a human edge. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> mafitzpatrick.. okay but lets save that for later . | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Oh sorry. I didn't see the discuss later :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no worries.. any other achievements.. ? | |
| <popey> the support tickets? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> good point .. please .. give me more to eloborate onin the text though. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Looking through the lists I see lots of helping people (is that what you're referring to popey?) | |
| <gord> I think the formation of a lively community willing to help is an achievement worth mentioning, we ain't just 5 people and a dog | |
| <mafitzpatrick> LMM I'll help to expand on any of this text after meeting is over if you want? Pad things out where possible. | |
| <popey> members of ubuntu-uk take time to answer support tickets via launchpad ? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> gord: Good point. | |
| <dsas_> maybe it's worth adding next to the "irc details" the fact that we usually have 20 people minimum idling? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> popey , cheers, any links maybe .. heehehh | |
| <mafitzpatrick> I didn't know that you could use support tickets on launchpad. Hm. Most is mailing list - perhaps we could do more using launchpad though. (Q for later: Can you assign credit to the team or individually?) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> https://launchpad.net/support has launchpad support tickets it seems! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [ IDEA ] Screencast : where to post your buglist or problems to get the best response . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> [ IDEA ] mafitzparick suggested can team credits be assigned ? | |
| <dsas_> mafitzpatrick: No. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay so .. 10 mintues is up ... and blimey | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I can see from those 20 minutes we can run up 2 pages of stuff just to talk about in terms of experiences. | |
| <popey> LoudMouthMan: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets | |
| <popey> is the ticket system | |
| <dsas_> mafitzpatrick: LP support stuff is all individuals. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas _ idling ? please elborate, popey thanks , | |
| <popey> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+topcontributors shows dsas and me in the top 10 of contributors | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Popey ... showoff.. I KNOW .. . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> anyway moving on. | |
| <popey> well, you did ask | |
| <LoudMouthMan> before we head towards 10 mins... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> can I ask is there any other business.. please put it forwards as [IDEA]then your business. I'll allow 2mins | |
| <LoudMouthMan> go. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> [IDEA] Rearranging Wiki to clarify information available / what is being done | |
| <mafitzpatrick> [IDEA] List achievements more clearly on Project pages (e.g. list of Screencasts, articles/letters in media) | |
| <popey> [IDEA] Audit all our pages so we can easily link to them | |
| <dsas_> to expand on popeys idea, just pop everything into CategoryUKTeam to keep everything indexed. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay well those Ideas will be notes and tabled for the next meeing along with any outstaning actions of this meeting. thank you guys. really . thank you ., | |
| <anti-net_> no problem :-) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so . the next meeting online well be 27th November 2006 and in thislocation. | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| <popey> we rock | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Is that after the application deadline? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I will endeavour to type up notes from tonight. if you have logged it please email nik@butlershouse.co.uk to let me have your notes. | |
| <anti-net_> 14th ins't it? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I will add details to the Application and ask people to review it before 9.00pm 14th before I send it to Jono. | |
| <dsas_> is the application up before the CC on the 17th? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i believe we have at least 3 days . . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but I wll ..CC: jono on our application details tommorow. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> meanwhile Id like to draw everyones attention again that we will meet here again on the 27th and the ideas put forward in any other business will be dicussedalso | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Id lik to close this meeting down and reset the topic so if there are no objectiions ? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Nope. Thanks again LMM. | |
| <AdamBagnall> Can we have the date + time of the next meeting in the topic please | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I call this second meeting of the UKTeam officially closed. and thanks for everyone who came. | |
| *** LoudMouthMan changes topic to "Topic for #ubuntu-uk is: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! | Edgy Upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Home: http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | Next UKTeam Meeting here on 27th November 2006 from 9.30pm" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Wow .. cheers guys ..! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> okay everyone.. back to fouly language mode | |
| * gord applauds everyone for creating something instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it :) | |
| <dsas_> LoudMouthMan: The logs are at http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2006/11/13/%23ubuntu-uk.html | |
| <AdamBagnall> If locobot failed I logged it too | |
| <anti-net_> hmm, well I didnt relises we werent a approved group.... | |
| <anti-net_> I really gotta read the wiki more... :P | |
| <dsas_> hmm, there's no mention of the next CC meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | |
| <LoudMouthMan> anti-net . no worries. I think most of us thought that when Jono took the job that he would be UK default manager. so thats the least of the mistakes<Grin> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas_ no its on the events calendar | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I thin k! | |
| * LoudMouthMan could get stuff wrong.. if you read Jonos roadmap you'll see that Locoteams are in disarray. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Can I check - presumably it's ok to amend the Wiki with some additions (e.g. Screencasting projects/etc.) from this discussion? While I'm at it, is anyone tasked with the general organisation of the Wiki (yeh, yeh, i know it's collaborative... but... :) ) | |
| <popey> fill your boots | |
| <popey> if someone doesn't like it they'll edit it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right im off oooot to my hovel to edit. .ill be back in 5 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right back . <grin> .. oooooh my hovel .. so wonderful for the creative juices.. and all that hidden beeer! | |
| <gord> beer doesn't count as a creative juice... apart from whiskey | |
| <anti-net_> ahh beer can be a creative juice, demends on how much you got | |
| <gord> it quickly turns into a destructive juice, and a juice that powers shopping carts... | |
| <anti-net_> yes you do have to know your creative limits | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Did you get enough out of the meeting LMM? | |
| <gord> lest your decorate the car park of your local pub with your creativity | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Next years Turner prize. Guaranteed. | |
| <VooDoo> evening | |
| <gord> evenin' | |
| <dsas_> evening | |
| <VooDoo> bloomin quiet in here | |
| <AdamBagnall> Everyone's all chatted out after the meeting | |
| <VooDoo> ah sorry i couldn't make it. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hahah .. well im doing my BNI and UUKTeam | |
| <gord> im messing about with blender, trying to create a realistic eye, which is ridiculously hard I might add | |
| * popey needs to record the audio for latest screencast | |
| <popey> really want to record a second one tonight | |
| <popey> two a night is heavy going but worth it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you mighty titan popey! | |
| <AdamBagnall> does Mrs popey not get annoyed and say you're ignoring her? | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> she's usually asleep so isn't aware | |
| <LoudMouthMan> popey . he he .. shes a woman . theres nothing we do for which they are not aware. ! | |
| * LoudMouthMan wife was sitting watching numbers and commenting on the meeting as it went. she really doesnt get us btw | |
| <LoudMouthMan> however she does pimp Ubuntu to her work colleagues so shes gets a merit for that 1 | |
| <anti-net_> popey, she is properly one of the idlers making sure your behaving ;) | |
| * binary2k2 needs to record audio for 2 screencasts, but is so tired his voice sounds gruff | |
| <LoudMouthMan> best spin word sentence so far " promotion of ethical software usage within educational establishments " . do i win a buzzword prize? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> ...that beer really /is/ somethin | |
| <mafitzpatrick> My lady just asked "Why you spend all night on the 'pooter?" ....."there was a meeting, you know, that Ubuntu thing?" ..."OObooonnntu. I don't get it" | |
| <mafitzpatrick> On the upside she likes to use the OS. So something is right :) | |
| <anti-net_> See im having problems getting non-techincal people to convert to Ubuntu | |
| <X3N> LoudMouthMan: you only win prizes if you manage to use the word synergy | |
| <LoudMouthMan> X3n . .give me 10 then . and ho check the wiki <grin> | |
| <gord> I generally find showing people my computer as it is converts people fine, they notice how I don't have a billion programs loaded on startup to detect viruses and whatnot and that everything just works, plus the orange is spanky ;) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey what is Binary2k2 real name please ? | |
| <binary2k2> Terence Simpson :D | |
| <LoudMouthMan> do you mind if I use it on the Application mate ? | |
| <binary2k2> nope, go ahead | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cheers... well im already fleshing this page out ... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> binary2k2 do you have a launchpad profile at all ? | |
| <binary2k2> binary2k2 | |
| <mafitzpatrick> anti-net: There was a little resistance to start with, but with practise it's fine. | |
| <binary2k2> that's @ https://launchpad.net/people/binary2k2 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> thanks. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> In fact when I switched from KDE to Gnome, she *complained* that there was only one "clicky-bit". The exact oppposite of the complaints when I first installed Ubuntu :) ...I think so much is down to habit. | |
| <X3N> clicky bit ? | |
| <anti-net_> the gnome panels I guess | |
| <binary2k2> probably the K Menu as opposed to the Applications and System menus | |
| <popey> right, audio recording time | |
| <X3N> i tried jokosha the other day | |
| <X3N> looks like it has potential to be cool | |
| <X3N> though i think at the moment jono's fame has meant that it's been a bit over hyped before it's ready | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im still editing but I have saved so yo can all see some progress | |
| <LoudMouthMan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ApprovalApplication | |
| <gord> lookin' good | |
| <LoudMouthMan> actually I like it. its clean ..e.g. UK sized. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but i believe it was what we discussed | |
| <dsas> clean? no profanity? :( | |
| <LoudMouthMan> clean .. hehahah no .. more like reductified. | |
| <dsas> "By providing considered and synergenistic responses" a what now? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but im going to take a 2 min break can people read it and if neccesary let me have [EDIT] notes no it. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas . .i was answering a bet | |
| <anti-net_> "synergenistic" - is that a work? | |
| <dsas> synergistic is, but lets not get hung up on spelling yet ;) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> haha spelling is for poof readers. <Grin> | |
| <anti-net_> No I can't talk, I have the worls worst spelling | |
| <anti-net_> worlds* | |
| <anti-net_> ....ironic | |
| <dsas> I prefer the phrase "word fascist" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> anyway . the page? | |
| <anti-net_> should I add myself to lauchpad..? | |
| <dsas> anti-net_: yes | |
| * anti-net_ adds | |
| <dsas> LoudMouthMan: personally, some of it seems a bit buzzwordy | |
| <LoudMouthMan> actually it would be helpful if launchpad pointed to how many members had signed the CoC | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dsas . yes it is. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Edit: " within established Linux User Groups in an already establish community." - change first established to "existing" | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but im a business man and I work backwards from buzz words to real words | |
| <anti-net_> done | |
| <MattJ> What's this application for? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> because that the language I use most often and then i work towards the end user words .. sigh. | |
| <gord> I work backwards from made up words to nonsense | |
| <dsas> MattJ: To become an approved Ubuntu LoCo team. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord, yeah its a shame that most of those"buzzwords" actually had a value once. | |
| <MattJ> Ah, guessed so | |
| <MattJ> Can't believe there's no UK team already | |
| <gord> I still believe in synergy, its an ancient word from the Greeks, don't let these business types spoil a perfectly specmictular word | |
| <mafitzpatrick> LMM it's reading fine - the clarity (& debuzz) comes in the editing process. You've got most of the things down. Are you adding notes on the Media stuff (i.e. letters published / BBC work / etc.)? | |
| <dsas> MattJ: There is, we're just not approved. I could be wrong, but until recently approval is something most teams haven't bothered with. | |
| <MattJ> I see | |
| * mafitzpatrick looks around... | |
| <mafitzpatrick> We definately *do* exist :) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Unless you want to get all philosophical. | |
| <gord> I don't | |
| <MattJ> :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> maf .. oooh no i missed that . though i see from my notes I had registered it. do we have any links ? | |
| <mafitzpatrick> (I knew I had to get that in quick) | |
| <mafitzpatrick> brb | |
| <gord> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more <-- for letter published | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ahhh finally links are fixed. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Oh. Doh. | |
| <mafitzpatrick> Well, got to head off, work tomorrow. Will you be making the draft available at 9pm tomorrow as planned? |