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<ulinskie> hello all!
<str0ng> heya ulinskie
<str0ng> hows your weekend?
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<ulinskie> str0ng: am here in manila now
<str0ng> ahhh :)
<ulinskie> the foss@work has just started
<str0ng> cool..
<str0ng> ganda naman :( sana makakasali din ako
<ulinskie> str0ng: quite..busy actually
<str0ng> ulinskie, ah ok.. :)
<Jucato> good morning!
<Jucato> ulinskie: glad you arrived safe and sound. :)
<ulinskie> but its okay... but its all worth it
<str0ng> :)
<str0ng> that is good ulinskie :)
<Jucato> buti pa sila makakapunta sa wednesday :(
<str0ng> yeah..
<str0ng> release party
<Jucato> ulinskie: musta po si rjian? baka naligaw na
<ulinskie> Jucato ala pa me naligaw.. rjian
<Jucato> hahaha :)
<ulinskie> lols
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<rjian> wee
<Jucato> hahah
<Jucato> hala nagtransform!
<rjian> uu nga eh
<Jucato> nakakatakot ka naman :P
<Jucato> how's your experience of manila/makati so far?
<rjian> nakakapagot heheh
<Jucato> :P
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* ulinskie encourages ubuntu-ph peeps to join #iosn
<Jucato> wow metamorphosis again! :)
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* ulinskie hello people
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<rjian> jucato: u can join the FOSS@work on #iosn channel c u there..
<Jucato> rjian: slightly busy now.... :(
<rjian> ok..
<Jucato> thanks for the invite
<mangz74> JUCATO!
<mangz74> lol
<Jucato> hi mangz74! good evening! :)
* rjian encourages ubuntu-ph peeps to join #iosn
* rjian encourages ubuntu-ph peeps to join #iosna
<Jucato> lunch time :)
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<Jucato> str0ng: just a few hours away from Sun GPL
<zakame> ping
<Jucato> hi kuya zakame
<zakame> hi Jucato
<rjian> kuya zak
<rjian> libre ka?
<rjian> eheh
<Jucato> rjian: is it ok to park in #iosn for a while?
<zakame> rjian: no, I'm at the office
<purserj> Jucato: come on over the water is fine
<Jucato> hehe thanks purserj :)
<zakame> ther's #iosn?
<purserj> yup
<zakame> cool
<Jucato> hi strong
<strong> gud pm Jucato
<Jucato> what happened to str0ng, strong?
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<str0ng> oh.. sorry
<Jucato> lol :)
<str0ng> i ddnt realized i was dc :(
<Jucato> str0ng: Nov 13 daw ang date ng pag GPL ng Java?
<str0ng> teka.. lemme check.
<str0ng> havent read about that.. :(
<Jucato> str0ng: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4348361333.html
<zakame> hmm on a thursday
<Jucato> huh?
<str0ng> ok ah.. :)
<Jucato> still trying to find "authoritative" links/announcements
<Jucato> per 12:50am pa lang sa EST... so.. baka mamayang gabi pa
<mangz74> it is nov 13 here now
<str0ng> mamya pa yan..
<Jucato> mangz74: good morning! staying up late? :P
<str0ng> nov. 12 pa sa kanila hehehe
<Jucato> nov 13 na, pero madaling araw
<str0ng> hehehe..
<mangz74> yeah
<mangz74> can't sleep
<mangz74> naglalaba pa din ako
<Jucato> actually, Nov 12 pa PST-CST :P
<Jucato> EST pa lang ang Nov 13 bwahaha
<zakame> brb
<mangz74> jucato
<mangz74> jucato!!!
<mangz74> u there
<Jucato> mangz74: yep yep
<mangz74> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-L-0s-7-Z0&NR
<mangz74> check that out
<mangz74> funny as hell
<mangz74> check out linux
<Jucato> heheh ok :)
<mangz74> check this out...check out bsd
<mangz74> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFAJDbV9Vfs&NR
<Jucato> rofl
<mangz74> last one..promise...back with linux
<mangz74> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjpn3L3bSJQ&NR
<mangz74> damn ..this is funny
* rjian encourage ubuntu-ph to join on #iosn
<mangz74> hilarious isn't it
<Jucato> heheh
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<Jucato> thanks for sharing :P
<rjian> yo jucato\
<Jucato> hi rjian!
<rjian> punta ka sa party
<Jucato> baka hindi... hm.. teka.. baka pala oo :)
<Jucato> saglit. I'll make arrangements
<Jucato> BSD: it's worse than Linux <--- bwhahaha!
<rjian> ahihi
<Jucato> it's not from e
<rjian> pra ka lng sa conference ngaun kasi nasa IRC hehe
<Jucato> from me..
<Jucato> oo nga
<rjian> hehe
<Jucato> mangz74: wawang Linux.hehehehe
<schoolboy> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
<schoolboy> hihihi heya everyone
<Jucato> schoolboy: eyo!
<schoolboy> oooh.. heya jucs
<Jucato> schoolboy: punta ka daw #iosn sabi ni rjian :P
<schoolboy> okie
<Jucato> schoolboy: * rjian encourage ubuntu-ph to join on #iosn
<schoolboy> weird channel name btw
<Jucato> ah? kala ko alam mo na yang channel na yan?
<Jucato> para sa FOSS@work.
<schoolboy> ooh.. i only knew about this know lang
<schoolbo1> =)
<rjian> lols jucato flooder pinasok mo dun
<schoolbo1> hihihi
<schoolbo1> =)
<schoolbo1> got dc
<rjian> ngek
<rjian> buhay pa?
<rjian> ahihi
<schoolbo1> yep.. a little
<rjian> flooders ka tlga
<schoolbo1> de ah
<schoolbo1> hihihi
<schoolbo1> =)
<schoolbo1> so.. whats up ?
<rjian> on seminar
<schoolbo1> about ?
<schoolbo1> hihi
<rjian> with maam yolynne and sir louie
<schoolbo1> waw
<schoolbo1> miting ei
<schoolbo1> just got home from skul
<zakame> back
<str0ng> is there any software i can use to create a multimedia presentation(like flash) in linux?
<allanix> good afternoon to all
<zakame> yo allanix
<allanix> zakame: hows daet? :)
<zakame> dunno, I'm in Manila :P
<allanix> ngeek :)
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<zakame> wb Jucato
<Jucato> thanks kuya zakame! :)
<jsgwork> lol
<jsgwork> lusot haha
<Jucato> heheh
<Jucato> CGI irc :)
<jsgwork> hindi banned sa proxy
<jsgwork> hintay na lang ako ng memo muhahahha
<Jucato> lol
<jsgwork> mamaya na lang bye
<Jucato> bye! :)
<Terminus> str0ng: sure. a programming language that uses ming. =D
<str0ng> sure?
<Jucato> ?
* Jucato must have missed something...
<Terminus> str0ng: well, you could try i guess, but i don't think it works very well.
<str0ng> sure is the name of a programming language?
<Terminus> str0ng: no, but ming seems to be buddies with php. hehe
<str0ng> ahhh
<Terminus> http://ming.sourceforge.net/
<str0ng> hehehe.
<str0ng> ill read that later :)
<Jucato> read it now! hehehe j/k
<Terminus> that'd be fun, making presentations using php. hahaha
<zakame> yo jsgwork
<schoolboy> halu
<Jucato> hi schoolboy!
<schoolboy> heya
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<pusakat> zakame: you free tomorrow or wednesday?
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<Jucato> good evening -a
<schoolboy> halu halu =)
<Jucato> hi schoolboy!
<schoolboy> hihihi
<jsgotangco> hey
<Jucato> so it has happened? Java is GPL now?
<schoolboy> =)
<Jucato> (kanina ko pa iniintay kung totoong nov 13 nga hehehe)
<Jucato> hi kuya jerome! hindi na CGI? :)
<jsgotangco> its only nov. 13 in the morning in the US and probably dawn
<jsgotangco> in california
<Jucato> san po ba ang office ng Sun? 7am EST
<zakame> pusakat: wazup? wanna meet? :)
<zakame> yo jsgotangco
<pusakat> zakame: i'll be at FOSS@work tomorrow and wednesday.
<jsgotangco> i dunno probably...
<pusakat> zakame: it's at heritage.
<jsgotangco> its only 6am in central
<zakame> pusakat: yeah I know... pwede ba magdrop-by?
<pusakat> zakame: i suppose so.
<jsgotangco> so its more likely 4am in the west
<jsgotangco> http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
<jsgotangco> hehe
<Jucato> 4:15am PST :)
<Jucato> ah yeah to 5:15 hours to go :)
<jsgotangco> opening up java to gpl does make an impact as a platform, but remember it has already been a standard way way before
<Jucato> at least, those who have objected to Java before because of license will be appeased now (somewhat...)
<Jucato> I guess...
<jsgotangco> its purely philosophical
<jsgotangco> (its already an iso standard)
<zakame> pusakat: hmmm sige, I might drop by tomorrow or wednesday
<Jucato> or political/ideological?
<zakame> heritage hotel in roxas isn't it?
<pusakat> yep
<jsgotangco> probably political, if the case against microsoft is to be considered
<zakame> Jucato: meaningless, at least to me (I do not use Java :P)
<zakame> I'll wait until the *chan boards are flooded with java's mascot :P
<jsgotangco> even if its gpl, it doesn't necessarily affect the current implementations/applications
<pusakat> zakame: where are you in the NM process?
<jsgotangco> it just builds up a lot of opportunities for current people creating their own implementations
<zakame> pusakat: p&p2 pa rin, although man-di pinged me sometime ago
<pusakat> zakame: i might resume after this month.
<schoolboy> =(
<zakame> pusakat: pero this week I have some spare time, so I might just be able to finish it and get on with the next step
<zakame> pusakat: ooh, great! :D
<schoolboy> Jucato: what you doin' now man? my head hurts a lot :(
<zakame> btw I installed etch on Clair's picard, now its sweet :D
<Jucato> sorry, went afk...
<Jucato> schoolboy: nothing much. reading some stuff.
<Jucato> jsgotangco: at least now java could be included in universe (Ubuntu) or free (Debian) right?
<zakame> Jucato: not just yet, although I suppose it can
<jsgotangco> Jucato: yes it becomes free-software basically
<jsgotangco> not just debian but all gnu/linux distributions
<jsgotangco> even non-linu
<jsgotangco> it'll mean (although not automatic) potential better support for say macosx
<Jucato> ah. well, at least it benefits all FOSS-dom in some way...
<Jucato> :)
<zakame> still, be vigilant
<Jucato> who was that who said, the price of freedom is vigilance? (or was it the other way around?)
<jsgotangco> although it does affect some current implementations wherein the current java may have an undiscovered vulnerability and it becomes vulnerable once the code is heavily scrutinzes
<zakame> right... I can't wait to see the flood of vulns and exploits for it in the coming months
<Jucato> heheh
<Jucato> but will the fixes and patches come in faster, too?
<jsgotangco> we can wish :)
<Jucato> hahaha
<jsgotangco> faster fixes and patches has always been theoretical in foss
<zakame> finally, it can be proved that java, just like every other fine language, sucks :P
<jsgotangco> remember the firebase database story
<jsgotangco> when the code came out a lot of vulnerabilities were discovered pre-dating to previous versions
<Jucato> lol
<zakame> indeed
<jsgotangco> but since java has a very big enterprise presence, opening it gives the java market more opportunities
<jsgotangco> (there are already a ton of gpl licensed java applications)
<zakame> more covering base for the java vs dotnet balle
<zakame> s/ballet/battle/
<zakame> err no match :p
<Jucato> .NET... one of the "terms" I was never able to look up/study...
<Jucato> by the time .NET was around, I was still reading Turbo C/C++ stuff. hahaha
<Jucato> (a bit of Visual C++ too)
<zakame> Jucato: its the buzzword for`common language infrastructure' of MS
<Jucato> oh
<jsgotangco> you still rely on a runtime environment similar to java
<jsgotangco> (although it does seem to be faster)
<zakame> yeah, a virtualization of a different sort
<jsgotangco> (and more flexible)
<zakame> well it is faster since there's no real VM involved
<jsgotangco> programmers have lost the knowledge of the arcane art of machine language
<Jucato> assembly?
<pyc> lol geez, i wish i hadn't bought an expensive .net book, its pretty useless ;)
<zakame> its just waiting to be rediscovered
<Jucato> well, it is "arcane", as you said :)
<zakame> pyc: not with mono 1.2 around, don't lose hope :)
<jsgotangco> we still use assembly, we don't use it
<jsgotangco> i mean
<jsgotangco> we don't see it
<zakame> buwhahah
<Jucato> lol naguluhan ako dun ah :)
<jsgotangco> its the only thing to interface your software to the computer
<zakame> jsgotangco: actually that's the apt description
<jsgotangco> Jucato: assember is the closest thing that your computer and you understand each other
<pyc> but there was a lot of FUD in mono in the community :( , because of novel/ms deal
<jsgotangco> all others are abstractions
<Jucato> yeah that I still remember.
<Jucato> (i was just confused about the "we use it, we just don't use it" error :P)
<zakame> actually .net takes that idea to a higher level really
<jsgotangco> that's why we compile remember :)
<Jucato> yep yep :)
<zakame> there's no coincidence why .net programs are called `assemblies' :P
<jsgotangco> yeah
<zakame> http://spi.iichan.net/fb/src/1163123040746.jpg
<zakame> he'll take you all to the pink side
<zakame> of the foss
<Jucato> lol
<jsgotangco> heh thats sick
<Jucato> linux chix :)
<jsgotangco> its probably your dream to be with one eh?
<Jucato> heheh
<Jucato> whoever's seele's boyfriend is very lucky :P
<zakame> buwahaha
<zakame> seele?
<jsgotangco> heh too bad sacha is already taken
<jsgotangco> some girl in kde
<Jucato> zakame: Celeste Lyn Paul (KDE HIG)
<zakame> ah
<jsgotangco> he reads behind kde regularly :P
<zakame> hackergotchi?
<Jucato> lol
<Jucato> http://people.kde.nl/celeste.html
<jsgotangco> see its already in his bookmarks
<Jucato> no it's not. it's in my history though :P
<jsgotangco> liar liar pants on fire
<Jucato> hahaha
<Jucato> people.kde.nl is on my bookmarks though. but not because of her :)
<jsgotangco> you need not defend so much we all know :P
<zakame> hmm nice domain, obso1337
<Jucato> hehehe
<zakame> hmm is feisty following deian's lead on the python-deps transition now?
<zakame> I'm doing my merges now :D
<jsgotangco> im very much enjoying my non-involvement heh
* Jucato wonders if he'll be doing stuff in feisty+1...
<jsgotangco> is something you don't plan but you just do because you want to
<zakame> oh crap I forgot, you died temporarily, right...
* zakame hides
<Jucato> jsgotangco: yeah I want to. but I don't know how. there isn't really a guide on "developing for newbies" (heck I don't even know chroot/pbuilder stuff yet. but I'm getting there)
<jsgotangco> just read on the packaging guide and the nm guide
<zakame> Jucato: you can start by helping out the bugsquad
<jsgotangco> but remember that packaging something means you have to know something about the software itself, that means, muddle up code
<Jucato> nm guide?
<Jucato> jsgotangco: yeah, that's also a part that's preventing me from getting really really really involved (getting hands dirty)
<Jucato> zakame: I do triage bugs once in a while... or file them...
<jsgotangco> if its something you cannot do, do something else, like documentation or artwork
<jsgotangco> even documentation involves some coding of sorts (xml)
<Jucato> artwork.. can't do. documentation is something I probably can do. although I really want to learn programming, too
<jsgotangco> then just do one thing at a time :)
<Jucato> I'm just thinking that if I try to get involved in docs now, I might not have the time/resources to study programming
<zakame> yeah, one thing one time
<Jucato> which is: studying programming right now, and building up the resources I need to get down and dirty :)
<zakame> actually in many packages there's not much programming done at all
<jsgotangco> merges
<jsgotangco> heh
<zakame> especially with stuff like cdbs and debhelper
<zakame> yeah, merges are actually quite easy to do, you just need X
<jsgotangco> Company Announces SD Card With Embedded Capacity Display
<jsgotangco> hehe E-ink has finally gotten some use
<zakame> great, when will that be in a micro-sd?
<zakame> and, will the measure be in bytes?
<jsgotangco> check this out
<jsgotangco> http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/11/08/lexar-jumpdrive-with-onboard-capacity-meter-reviewed-verdict-e-ink-is-kewl/
<Jucato> Embedded Capacity display??
<zakame> yeah, w00t
<jsgotangco> its E-Ink :)
<Jucato> oooh
<jsgotangco> its what the sony reader uses as well
<zakame> can't wait to see that in hard-disk enclosures :D
<jsgotangco> but E-Ink seems to be more useful on something like the lexar device
<jsgotangco> heck yeah, even temperature readers can be so thin with e-ink
<zakame> heh parang thermometer yung design, pang-laptop lang
<jsgotangco> Aggreg8 is a social networking and collaboration space for the IT community. Inside you can keep track of your trusted network, find others through your network with similar interests or situations.
<zakame> http://spi.iichan.net/fb/src/1163125160624.jpg
<Jucato> lol cute
<Jucato> Aggreg8... a networking site for IT people??
<zakame> http://spi.iichan.net/fb/src/1163122348101.gif
<jsgotangco> hehe social networking for IT professionals (with emphasis on MS technologies)
<Jucato> heheh
<zakame> right
<zakame> http://spi.iichan.net/fb/src/1163106343303.jpg sakit-ulo-yan
<jsgotangco> hehe techsoup.com is much better
<jsgotangco> jean luc picard?
<jsgotangco> heh
<zakame> brb lipat-bahay
<Jucato> hehe
<jsgotangco> im gonna play second life
<jsgotangco> bbl
<Jucato> bye :)
<jsgotangco> ive uploaded my ubuntu shirt in second life :)
<Jucato> hehehe
<Jucato> kool
<jsgotangco> i should make a debian skin too
<jsgotangco> hmm ill probably sell it as well
<Jucato> heheh
<schoolboy> hehe! im back! =)
<Jucato> lol
<Jucato> wb schoolboy. musta ulo mo?
<schoolboy> waw.. long conversation ah
<Jucato> yes. long and meaningful :)
<schoolboy> still hurts
<Jucato> aw... :(
<schoolboy> waw.. whatcha talked about kanina? hmm
<schoolboy> java and assembly?
<schoolboy> hihihi
<Jucato> lots of stuff
<Jucato> java, seele, helping out :)
<Jucato> e-links
<schoolboy> oohh help out .. like.. maintaining packages and stuff. right?
<Jucato> maintain, package, merge (what is that?), etc.
<Jucato> bugs, docs, and artwork too
<schoolboy> pero di ba you're learning c++ recently? wont that be a conflict?
<schoolboy> what is merge? hmmm in my own words.. its like.. boy+girl = baby .. or something to that effect
<Jucato> lol
<schoolboy> :p
<pyc> i believe simple deb packaging, is actually simple like abc :D
<Jucato> conflict? not really. C++ will be my entry point. of course packaging might or might not involve it :)
<Jucato> "C++ -> Qt/KDE -> World Domination" remember?
<schoolboy> ahh yep yep =) hihihi
<schoolboy> di ba "physics -> nuke -> world domination" dapat? :p hihihi
<Jucato> bwhaha
<Jucato> that's world destruction
<pyc> jucato, but you'll also need to learn about autotools then, that's scary ;)
<Jucato> pyc: I have to learn a lot... but little by little does it :)
<pyc> yeah
<schoolboy> waw waw! i wish i had your enthusiasm ..
<Jucato> C++ might not be an absolute necessity. but I don't feel I'll be adequate without knowing at least one programming language...
<Jucato> schoolboy: ngayon lang yan
<Jucato> :P
<schoolboy> =) well, goodluck on that.
<Jucato> hehe brb... cr break bwahahaha
<schoolboy> hihihi prehaps one day some guys at onb will hire you
<pyc> jucato nasaan ka na sa c++ ?
<schoolboy> uki
<Jucato> pyc: page 1.heheeh
<Jucato> but I have very basic C knowledge
<pyc> lol, preface?
<Jucato> basic C... parang kontradiction
<Jucato> ay, introduction naman :)
<pyc> oh i see
<Jucato> I remember trying to make an almost vim-type text editor before (way back 1998 I think). yung edit one line at a time :P
<pyc> that's nice , i think i'll try to relearn c if i have time
<schoolboy> whoah! nice ah
<Jucato> of course, I had a book to guide me back then... most of my own project (like an addressbook) failed
<Jucato> hehe brb na talaga... :)
<schoolboy> sige.. hihihi
<schoolboy> :p
<Jucato> back!!!!!
<schoolboy> waw.. dali ah :p
<Jucato> hehehe
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<schoolboy> :( head hurts
<pyc> YAY, just installed kiba-dock without compiz/beryl or xgl :D
<Jucato> hehe you don't need compiz with kiba-dock, afaik...
<pyc> hehehe, i just notice that just now :D , just installed xcompmgr for basic transparency :D
<Jucato> is it on Ubuntu?
<pyc> yes :)
<Jucato> ah
<pyc> there's an edgy package from beryl forum and i tried it and poof :D
<Jucato> there's also a beryl channel in here I think...
<pyc> oh really, i did not know that , i'll see if they are active
<Jucato> <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
<pyc> yeah, definitely active
<pyc> #ubuntu-xgl nice :)
<pyc> thanks for that :)
<schoolboy> gotta go now.. byee byee
<schoolboy> and good evening =)
<Jucato> bye!
<pyc> ako din, parang inaantok na ako, tulog muna ako, bye ;)
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<jsgotangco> i have a feeling that this laptop will die soon
<Jucato> aw... how come?
<jsgotangco> lcd is doing some weird stuff
<Jucato> :(
<jsgotangco> heh im a very heavy user
<Jucato> apparently :)
<jsgotangco> so sometimes a laptop doesn't last more than 2 years with me
<Jucato> hehehe katakot ka naman po :)
<jsgotangco> heh its work
<jsgotangco> hopefully its just windows drivers and not the lcd :)
<Jucato> hehehe. blame it on windows :P
<Jucato> j/k
<jsgotangco> i must have loaded a bad nvidia driver
<jsgotangco> but then i saw the symptoms sa grub
<jsgotangco> we'll see hehe
* Jucato crosses all other available fingers
<jsgotangco> anyways i'm already thinking of getting a new one na core duo
<jsgotangco> so its just a matter of time
<dekoy> morning
<jsgotangco> hi
<jsgotangco> Jucato: well its been to 4 countries and 2 ubuntu summits, its worth it na hehe
<Jucato> hehehe kaya naman pala :)
<Jucato> it's time for it to rest :P
<Jucato> morning dekoy!
<jsgotangco> hehehe as in sobrang sulit
<jsgotangco> pero ibibili naman ako ng fafa dekoy ko ng bago
<Jucato> bwahaha
<pusakat> hehe
<dekoy> hehehe
<pusakat> sarap ng may fafa
<pusakat> dapat kasi fafa ko din si dekoy
<dekoy> bwahahahaha
<jsgotangco> sorry ka nauna ako
* dekoy kisses everybody
<dekoy> hahaha
<dekoy> hayy
<jsgotangco> at mahilig siya sa mestizo
<pusakat> oo nga pala.
<dekoy> hehhee
<pusakat> hindi ako mestizo.
<jsgotangco> zorro ka diba
<pusakat> pusang itim kasi.
<dekoy> hhahaha
<Jucato> :P
<dekoy> hayyyyyyyyy I need sleep
<pusakat> huwag muna!
<pusakat> sleep sleep
<dekoy> hehehe
<pusakat> bawal sleep
<dekoy> nasa opis ako
<dekoy> di ako pwede matulog
<dekoy> hehe
<pusakat> mas lalong bawal yan
<dekoy> pero inaantok talaga ako
<jsgotangco> tulog din ako ng maaga
<dekoy> me snow nasa lupa
<dekoy> hayy
<dekoy> it's christmas time in the city
<dekoy> pasko na hanu na kayo hehehe
<jsgotangco> hmmm
<jsgotangco> mukhang wala na lcd nito
<jsgotangco> nagkukulay puti yung buong screen
<pusakat> nakow
<pusakat> bili ka na ng bagow
<jsgotangco> buksan ko bukas hehe
<dekoy> Sun Open Sources Java Under GPL
<dekoy> okay pwede nang mag java si gotangco
<dekoy> hehe
<jsgotangco> hehe
<jsgotangco> tado nagaral ako ng java sa ibm remember
<jsgotangco> pero sandali lang
<dekoy> hehe yeah
<dekoy> pero ngayon gagamitin mo na
<dekoy> kasi GPL na eh
<dekoy> diba fans ka ni stallman ?
<jsgotangco> hindi ah
<jsgotangco> baka si zorro
<dekoy> what will happen to that GPL java implementation that they are doing
<dekoy> wala na
<dekoy> hehe
<Jucato> focus na lang sila siguro sa Gnash
<jsgotangco> gcj?
<jsgotangco> wala
<jsgotangco> pftt just don't use flash period
<Jucato> pano ang YouTube at ang Jollibee scandal? :(
<Jucato> (btw, may copy pa rin nun sa Google Videos ata)
<jsgotangco> im not gullible to watch that crap
<Jucato> hahah
<dekoy> ang alin?
<dekoy> hehe
<dekoy> scandal ? jolibee ?
<jsgotangco> 2 mascots humping each other
<dekoy> my favorite fast food chain ?
<dekoy> ohhh
<dekoy> kala ko meron daliri sa jolibee
<dekoy> putol na daliri
<jsgotangco> jsgwork
<jsgotangco> taena
<Jucato> bwahaha
<dekoy> hehe
<jsgotangco> ang tagal na nun ako nag quit ah
<Jucato> lol
<jsgotangco> oras na yun
<dekoy> ang alin ?
<dekoy> oh yung jsgwork
<dekoy> haha
<Jucato> CGI IRC
<dekoy> tena na loloko na ao
<dekoy> hhaha
<jsgotangco> taena mga 3pm pa yun
<pusakat> kasi di ka tumae
<Jucato> lol
<jsgotangco> tena mukhang jerbs na tong dapper gamitin
<dekoy> hehe
<jsgotangco> dekoy: na try mo na yung Xara?
<dekoy> nopes
<dekoy> sabi nila magnda
<dekoy> kasi mature na
<dekoy> pero im not sure
<jsgotangco> heh sawa na ako sa kaka craash ng inkscape
<dekoy> hehehe
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<dekoy> air guitar
<dekoy> woot
<dekoy> hehe
<dekoy> sandali nga makapag kape
<dekoy> ng magising
<pusakat> kape kape
<pusakat> dekoy: naaalala mo yung Delifrancé?
<pusakat> ay... mali
<pusakat> Le Coeúr de Francé pala.
<jsgotangco> aba
<jsgotangco> exact words
<jsgotangco> hehe
<jsgotangco> Another Freedom for Java Technology
<jsgotangco> Sun started a revolution with Java technology 10 years ago. With a free runtime, an open specification, and a platform-independent promise of compatibility, Java technology became a gold standard in embedded devices, mobile phones, on the desktop and within the enterprise. Now, in 2006, Sun is open sourcing its implementations of Java technology as Free/Libre software.
<jsgotangco> heh
<pusakat> woot
<jsgotangco> Mark Shuttleworth, Founder: Ubuntu Project (00:49 min)
<jsgotangco> (well he didn't say that but there's a video link)
* Jucato is curious as to what RMS said... clicks on the link..
<jsgotangco> "more money for me so i don't have to work at all"
<Jucato> lol
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<Adames> hello
<dekoy> hehehe
<pusakat> bwahaha
<pusakat> cramming
<pusakat> may talk ako bukas about l10n/i18n/m17n
<dekoy> hehe
<dekoy> hala
<pusakat> may ilang slide pa ako na hindi pa tapos
<pusakat> freak out
<Jucato> localization/internalization/m______n???
<dekoy> hehehe
<Jucato> internationalization pala...
<dekoy> hahah
<Jucato> ano po yung m17n?
<dekoy> don't worry we understand you
<dekoy> dang it's so nice ehehe kita mo yung hati madilim saka me araw sa kabila
<dekoy> hahaha
<Jucato> :)
* Jucato still wonders what m17n is...
<dekoy> am looking at yellowstone sa google earth
<dekoy> mult -langualization
<Jucato> aaah
<dekoy> multilangualization
<dekoy> i can't spell
* Jucato was starting to think marginalization or something :P
<dekoy> hehehe
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<pusakat> multilingualization
<dekoy> langua or lingua ?
<dekoy> hehe
<pusakat> i.e. you can enter and display different languages in the same program at the same time
<dekoy> galing ng google earth hehe kitang kita na pinas
<pusakat> lingua
<dekoy> ang daminggggggggggbahay
<dekoy> dikit diki
<dekoy> bwahahha
<pusakat> localization or localisation depende kung am or brit english gamit mo
<pusakat> bwahaha
<Jucato> ooh
<dekoy> hehe
<Jucato> good night po sa inyong lahat!!
<dekoy> di ko makita bahay namin
<dekoy> nasa bangkal na ako sa googlemaps
<dekoy> bwhahha
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