| <coreymon77> hey sivang | |
| <coreymon77> if you hadnt already noticed | |
| <coreymon77> ive done a few translation jobs | |
| <coreymon77> sivang? | |
| <coreymon77> i havent heard from you for a while? | |
| <coreymon77> anyone around? | |
| <coreymon77> ifireball? | |
| <coreymon77> LoCoBot_2? | |
| <ifireball> coreymon77: where did you translate what? | |
| <coreymon77> some *buntu stuff | |
| <ifireball> well I tend to have my LC_MESSAGES set to en_<something> so I wouldn't see it | |
| <coreymon77> im doing some stuff that can be used for kubuntu | |
| <coreymon77> cause thats what i use | |
| <coreymon77> my first language is english | |
| <ifireball> in that case ther's even less chance I'll see it | |
| <coreymon77> i just know a bit of hebrew | |
| <coreymon77> so im just doing a bit of translating for progs | |
| <coreymon77> and aps | |
| <ifireball> I reacon Heb is not you mother tounge is it? | |
| <ifireball> I.e. parsing that "i just know a bit of hebrew" part... | |
| <coreymon77> nope | |
| <coreymon77> english is | |
| <coreymon77> remember this | |
| <coreymon77> <coreymon77> my first language is english | |
| <ifireball> may I ask where are you from? (you seem to be using some kind of trick to prevent me from finding out on my own with reverse-dns... ;) | |
| <coreymon77> yes, i use an uaffiliated cloak to disguise my dns | |
| <coreymon77> for that exact reason | |
| <coreymon77> so people cant find out where i am from | |
| <ifireball> is it something freenode does for you, or some layer before it? | |
| <coreymon77> freenode does it | |
| <ifireball> I see. | |
| <coreymon77> you can get one yourself if you want | |
| <coreymon77> just ask a staffer | |
| <ifireball> not really secure essentailly since freenode still knows... | |
| <coreymon77> oh, i know that | |
| <coreymon77> its just so any random person cant just see where i am from | |
| <coreymon77> you want one? | |
| <ifireball> neah, if I wand anonymity I'll get a real one, not a false sense of security... | |
| <coreymon77> just ask a staffer | |
| <ifireball> I don't mind ppl seing where I'm from | |
| <coreymon77> type /msg nalioth and ask him for an unaffiliated cloak | |
| <ifireball> If it makes them not want to talk to me, then I don't want to talk to them | |
| <coreymon77> look | |
| <coreymon77> its fine | |
| <coreymon77> staffers agree to this | |
| <coreymon77> they dont mind | |
| <coreymon77> and i dont use it as some false sense of security | |
| <coreymon77> i trust freenode though, i dont necessaruily trust everyone that uses it | |
| <ifireball> k. I'll keep that in mind, but I suppose you do mind telling where you're from so I won't ask anymore... | |
| <coreymon77> ill tell you anyways | |
| <coreymon77> im form canada | |
| <ifireball> cool. | |
| <ifireball> if to belive what Cory Doctorow writes you guys got some nasty laws coming up there | |
| <coreymon77> ????? | |
| <ifireball> let me try and find some link for you | |
| <coreymon77> i dont know what you mean | |
| <coreymon77> and you are form? | |
| <coreymon77> and who the hell is cory doctorow? | |
| <ifireball> just RDNS me ;P | |
| <coreymon77> ??? | |
| <coreymon77> from* | |
| <coreymon77> what do you mean rdns? | |
| <ifireball> RDNS=reverse DNS, essntially what the /dns command does | |
| <coreymon77> is doesnt tell me anything | |
| <coreymon77> it gave me an ip adress | |
| <coreymon77> how does that help me? | |
| <ifireball> then you take the IP and run a WHOIS query, you'll get the name of my ISP in no time, probably the address of the nearest NOC as well | |
| <ifireball> or you can use some kind of a graphical traceroute utility | |
| <coreymon77> whois 84.108.64.218 | |
| <coreymon77> i didnt work | |
| <coreymon77> just tell me for crying out loud | |
| <coreymon77> where are you from | |
| <ifireball> the sunshine struk land of Israel... | |
| <coreymon77> oh | |
| <coreymon77> that would make sense | |
| <coreymon77> anyways | |
| <ifireball> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/10/canadian_music_propo.html <- K. finally found one, I was sure there was something more recent | |
| <ifireball> http://www.craphound.com/bio.php <- if you wanna know who Cory Doctorow is | |
| <coreymon77> meh | |
| <coreymon77> doesnt matter | |
| <coreymon77> i dont listen to music annyways | |
| <coreymon77> i can speak a bit fo hebrew you know | |
| <coreymon77> so if you want to say something in hebrew | |
| <coreymon77> i can probably understand | |
| <ifireball> essntially it seems youre law system's been smater then US'es, and now your governmet seems to be planning on adopting some of the worse parts of US law such as CDMA and patent policies | |
| <coreymon77> typically what i do is if the person can speak english i jsut understand the hebrew and answer in english | |
| <ifireball> neah I can type English alot better then I can type Hebrew... | |
| <ifireball> If you wanna polish your hebrew I dont mind though | |
| <ifireball> ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? | |
| <ifireball> אתה יכול לקרוא את זה? | |
| <ifireball> well, gtg for now, be back In 30minutes or so | |
| <coreymon77> yup | |
| <coreymon77> i can read that | |
| <ifireball> the 1st or 2nd line? | |
| <coreymon77> אני יצול לדבר עורית | |
| <coreymon77> ולקרא עורית | |
| <ifireball> k. you're UTF-8 then | |
| <coreymon77> im using kubuntu | |
| <coreymon77> of course i am | |
| <ifireball> זה לא כזה ברור, הרבה אנשים שמתמשים ב - IRC מכוונים ל - ISO-8859-8 כדי להתאים ל - windows | |
| <coreymon77> well | |
| <coreymon77> im using konversation | |
| <coreymon77> and i like tto get away from windoze as much as possible | |
| <coreymon77> utf-8 is the default thoug | |
| <coreymon77> h | |
| <ifireball> אני מניח שאפשר לכוון charset ב - konversation בדיוק באותה קלות שאפשר לכוון אותו ב - Xchat | |
| <coreymon77> konversation is kdes irc client (i love it) | |
| <coreymon77> probably | |
| <coreymon77> just go into settings | |
| <coreymon77> but why would anyone do that, its stupid | |
| <coreymon77> utf-8 lets you see more languages | |
| <ifireball> אני מכיר את konversation אולם בתקופה הקצרה שהשתמשתי ב - kde השתמשתי בתוכנה אחרת שאני לא זוכר את שמה | |
| <coreymon77> oh | |
| <coreymon77> well i like konversation | |
| <coreymon77> how long did you use kde for? | |
| <ifireball> כן אבל ב - windows עברית עובד ב - iso8859-8 והרבה דוברי עברית באינטרנט משתמשים ב - windows... | |
| <coreymon77> maybe | |
| <coreymon77> but i think kde supports both | |
| <coreymon77> i can see either one | |
| <ifireball> השתמשתי ב - kde שנה בערך | |
| <coreymon77> oh | |
| <coreymon77> how long ago? | |
| <ifireball> לפני שנתיים, אולי יותר | |
| <ifireball> כמה זמן אתה כבר משתמש ב - KDE? | |
| <coreymon77> years | |
| <coreymon77> many years | |
| <coreymon77> i sarted with linux years ago and i have always used kde | |
| <coreymon77> you should maybe check it out again | |
| <ifireball> well, I've used almost every kind of environmet Lunx had to offer, FVWM, WindowMaker, XFCE, Gnome, KDE... | |
| <coreymon77> kde has undergone MAJOR MAJOR upgreades and changes in the past 2 years | |
| <ifireball> I don't think KDE's phylosophy as to how a desktop should be built matches my Ideas about that subject | |
| <coreymon77> the change frem 3.0 to 3.5 was unbelievable | |
| <coreymon77> and then there was the 3.5-3.5.5 change, which was a nice changve | |
| <coreymon77> that, combined with kubuntus dapper-edgy upgrades (unbelievable) and well | |
| <coreymon77> its great | |
| <ifireball> well, I know how these things go in the Linux world | |
| <coreymon77> ??? | |
| <coreymon77> what do you use? | |
| <ifireball> but non of this will change the fact that I don't agree with the basic phylosophy behind KDE | |
| <coreymon77> ??? | |
| <coreymon77> whats the matter? | |
| <ifireball> nowdays I use Gnome on the machines that can take it, XFCE on the rest | |
| <coreymon77> whats the matter with kde? | |
| <ifireball> basically KDE's phylosophy is to put as many featurs as possible on screen | |
| <ifireball> I think that makes a desktop feal "unclean" | |
| <coreymon77> btw is philosophy not phylosopjy | |
| <ifireball> yeah, I make typoes, lots of them, get used to it... | |
| <coreymon77> you can take away some of the stuff on the screen if you want | |
| <ifireball> I prefer the Gnome approach, "make it as simple as possible" coupled withe linux flexibility, this allows me to move away from the simplicity where I don't want it and still have it everywhere else | |
| <ifireball> also, I just love Nautilus, Konqueror jost has way to many features IMHO, no way to shove all of them into a consistant UI | |
| <ifireball> just* | |
| <coreymon77> oh\ | |
| <ifireball> for me its like Firefox vs. Mozila Seamonky, I.e. sure Seamonky has way more features, but I prefer to use Firefox and install plugins for the extra features I ned | |
| <ifireball> need* | |
| <coreymon77> i se firefox | |
| <coreymon77> okay | |
| <coreymon77> everyone has their own opinions and prefs | |
| <coreymon77> i respect that | |
| <ifireball> coo` |