| <somerville32> Bug 71351 | |
| <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71351 in xfdesktop4 "hidden menu items reappear after including them" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71351 | |
| <JKnife> !UGT | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about UGT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <JKnife> stupid bot | |
| <MattJ> :) | |
| <MenZa> How do I display hidden folders in Thunar? | |
| <somerville32> Look in the menu | |
| <somerville32> There is a "Display hidden files" menu item or something | |
| <gnomefreak> ctrl+h :) | |
| * gnomefreak not here just thought you could use it | |
| <pilibeen> has anybody had issues "waking up" their laptop after it goes idle and asleep? | |
| <pilibeen> nothing i try seems to work | |
| <pilibeen> thinkpad t22 | |
| <Zer0> HELP, i need to get rid of EVERYTHING except ubuntu server, and i have no CD drive, how do i do this? | |
| <crimsun> pilibeen: are you using the latest bios for the t22? | |
| <JKnife> hi people =) | |
| <Zer0> anyone know how to get rid of all my GUI stuff, my Xfce and jsut get back to the server? | |
| <crimsun> sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop | |
| <Zer0> crimsun, how do i remove all of x with apt-get or aptitude? | |
| <crimsun> did you install xubuntu-desktop using aptitude? | |
| <Zer0> yeah, but i also have some KDE and Gnome installed, so i need to remove all X and start over in the server | |
| <somerville32> Hey Crimsun | |
| <crimsun> Zer0: then remove libx11-6 | |
| <pilibeen> crimsun: not sure...but didnt seem to have this problem with edgy | |
| <crimsun> Zer0: however, if you used aptitude to install -desktop, then just use aptitude to remove -desktop | |
| <JKnife> ahhh the deps of all X11 deps | |
| <crimsun> pilibeen: with...edgy? What are you running now? | |
| <Zer0> so apt-get remove libx11-6 and it will get rid of all Gnome/KDE/XFCE for good, crimsun? | |
| <crimsun> Zer0: it's a start | |
| <JKnife> he is prob running edgy+1 | |
| <crimsun> aka feisty? | |
| <crimsun> what did I say about running feisty in here? | |
| <Zer0> whats the finish? | |
| <crimsun> Zer0: I'm not omniscient | |
| <Zer0> sorry | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: right now i'm running dapper | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: have you filed a bug report and attached dmesg to it? | |
| <atarinox> i downgraded b/c i was having some issues with desktop icons in edgy | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: ...no that sounds way over my head. i'm new to the whole linux thing | |
| <atarinox> i think i just want to upgrade to edgy again...but dont want to do a fresh install | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: filing a bug report and typing ``dmesg'' in a terminal are not difficult things | |
| <removeX> crimsun, im sorry how do i remove X? | |
| <atarinox> but ive also heard of issues upgrading edgy wiht apt-get | |
| <atarinox> err..upgrading xubuntu | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: install it clean, then | |
| <crimsun> removeX: remove libx11-6 | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: there's no way to upgrade dapper by editing .source lists? | |
| <atarinox> reliably... | |
| <crimsun> atarinox: sure there is | |
| <crimsun> that's essentially what the dist-upgrader does and what you do by hand | |
| <atarinox> crimsun: have you heard of the xubuntu upgrade issues? | |
| <crimsun> I'm familiar with several. | |
| <darrend_laptop> any reason transparency would not be working in the panel or using transset? Composite extension is enabled in xorg.conf and is loaded without error according to the Xorg log. | |
| <crimsun> tail ~/.xsession-errors | |
| <darrend_laptop> nothing relevant | |
| <crimsun> so what happens in the logs when you point transset at a window? | |
| <darrend_laptop> nothing. Output from transset is normal - just no effect... | |
| <darrend_laptop> davisond@davisond-laptop ~ $ transset .7 | |
| <darrend_laptop> got arg .7 | |
| <darrend_laptop> d is 0.7 | |
| <darrend_laptop> opacity 0xb3333332 | |
| <darrend_laptop> Set Property to 0.7 | |
| *** sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt | |
| <JKnife> darrend_laptop: turn on XFWM4 composite manager | |
| <JKnife> =) | |
| <darrend_laptop> JKnife: thought it was enabled by default.. where do I set this? | |
| <JKnife> it is enabled in X11 by default but not XFWM and it is Applications->Settings->Window Manager Tweaks | |
| <JKnife> you may have todo this http://tinyurl.com/yj4t29 | |
| <Tmob> anyone here use a laptop with CRT attached to it? | |
| <darrend_laptop> looks like I will JKnife; no compositor tab for me on there. | |
| * darrend_laptop goes to try it | |
| <darrend_laptop> JKnife: thanks - that did it :) | |
| <JKnife> np | |
| <odat> anyone familiar with the gimp? | |
| <jessmon> hello, how would i know if i have the "alternate" or "desktop" install cd? | |
| <JKnife> jessmon: umm is it full of .deb files? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Hello? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hey | |
| <jessmon_> hello.How would i determine from cd cd if its an "alternate" or "desktop" install?? | |
| <JKnife> jessmon_: umm is it full of .deb files? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> put it in, boot it up | |
| <Commander-Crowe> it'll give you the LiveCD in Desktop install | |
| <Commander-Crowe> and Text mode in Alt | |
| <JKnife> jessmon_: look through the cd.. do you see a folder named pool? | |
| <jessmon_> yeah i see pool | |
| <superkirbyartist> Will a 266MHZ with around 196MB and 2GB HD be enough for Xubuntu | |
| <JKnife> superkirbyartist: should be | |
| <superkirbyartist> Will it run GOOD? | |
| <JKnife> good? depends on what you run | |
| <jessmon_> JKnife, its has subfolders main & restricted, each with alphabetical subfoldres | |
| <JKnife> it is alt cd | |
| <jessmon_> cool thanks | |
| <jessmon_> JKnife , whats the difference, really.What do i leave out by not using the "desktop" version?? | |
| <TimM> Woohoo! My Edgy upgrade worked. | |
| <TimM> after a bit of a struggle with X. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> TimM: props | |
| <jessmon_> TimM, was it a cd upgrADE? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> jessmon_: It's just an alternate install method. The end result, unless you customize your install in some way, is the same. | |
| <TimM> Nope. apt-get off the net. | |
| <jessmon_> tIMm, IM CONTEMPLATING A CD UPGARDE, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A MISSION EVERYWHERE I READ ON IT | |
| <jessmon_> anyone done a cd upgrade? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> !caps | |
| <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. | |
| <jessmon_> i know, soz fellas.Slip of the left babyfinger :) | |
| <superkirbyartist> StepMania, OpenOffice.org, Firefox... | |
| <TimM> I'm sure the CD upgrad is about as painful as the network upgrade. The channel topic is doesn't lie | |
| <TimM> I wouldn't try the upgrade on a computer I wanted to keep using for anything important. | |
| <crimsun> not unless you're very, very comfortable w/ apt* | |
| <TimM> A friend had problems whith his upgrade (I think it was from the CD) and he ended up reformatting the partition and doing a fresh install. | |
| <TimM> This old clunker took most of a day to get it installed, but it would've even if it went smooth. | |
| <jessmon_> i did a net install & it worked, but not 100%.I had installation errors & glitchy xgl, so i did a fresh install myself.But i think i used an alternate instead of desktop cd.Thats why I was worried that it may cause trouble later down the line | |
| <TimM> I don't have to worry about xgl. This computer doesn't have the video or CPU horsepower. | |
| <pearism> why would glitchy xgl have anything to do with installing files over a network? | |
| <pearism> it wouldn't | |
| <jessmon_> not that i implied it did - that was merely the outcome of that installation | |
| <pearism> ah, k. | |
| <pearism> it was the outcome of being a n00b and not knowing how to configure your files | |
| <jessmon_> its had error messgaes during the install too & bug reports - so rather than deal with it - took the easy way out n reinstalled | |
| <pearism> weak :) | |
| <jessmon_> busy! | |
| <jessmon_> :) | |
| *** sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt | |
| <jessmon> hey, im about to upgrade dapper xubuntu with a cd.I entered this gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" - now i get a message asking me "fetch data from the network for the upgrade" y/n? | |
| <crimsun> known bug. No workaround. | |
| <jessmon> does this mean it will install from cd or net or both?? | |
| <crimsun> 'net. | |
| <jessmon> tahnks crimsun | |
| <jessmon> so much for that upgrade, it says my system is up to date - so will not upgrade.... | |
| <jessmon> i guess its hobson's choice really - net is the only way then?? | |
| <crimsun> jessmon: yes. like I mentioned, it's a known bug and will be addressed for 7.04. | |
| <superkirbyartist> I have a Xubuntu live CD, but only used it once. What's it like? | |
| <crimsun> depends on your hardware. | |
| <superkirbyartist> No really. | |
| <superkirbyartist> What's it like to you? | |
| <crimsun> the live cd? I haven't used it on this system [which lacks an optical drive]. | |
| <crimsun> I netbooted 5.04 and have dist-upgraded each release | |
| <nwbreneman> could somebody help me resolve a few errors I just got with synaptic? they are: | |
| <nwbreneman> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | |
| <nwbreneman> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | |
| <nwbreneman> E: Unable to correct dependencies | |
| <nwbreneman> E: Unable to lock the download directory | |
| <nwbreneman> sorry, didn't mean to spam. apparently gaim splits my lines up like that. | |
| <nwbreneman> I was trying to remove openoffice which was installed with edgy | |
| <superkirbyartist> E: Unable to lock your mom. | |
| <superkirbyartist> LOL. Just kidding, everyone. Don't ban me. | |
| <jessmon> :) | |
| <superkirbyartist> Well, I'm happy everyone's happy. How late is it in your timezones? | |
| <jessmon> hey how come my name is greyed out, does it mean nething or not?? | |
| <pilibeen> 11pm | |
| <joejaxx> hello everyone | |
| <jessmon> well im in nz, its 4pm sunday noon here, just about tea time :) | |
| <pilibeen> happy 11/11 | |
| <jessmon> lol | |
| <jessmon> 11pm/11/11 - ominous me thinks | |
| <jessmon> hey im following the instructions on this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288389 , but still it sems that its gonna install from the net - what gives?? | |
| <jessmon> ive reached my gig quota on broadband so really need to cd upgrade rather than net - is this possible or shall i flag it? | |
| <vidd> anyone know how to delete stored sessions? | |
| <sc0tt> sup | |
| <sc0tt> =] | |
| <superkirbyartist> http://tinyurl.com/wrylv | |
| <superkirbyartist> Who went on the tinyurl? | |
| <Majic> er....you... | |
| <superkirbyartist> Boring people... what a shame... I guess you're too busy to notice... it's okay... it's a good link though. | |
| <Majic> Usually whatever I click on IRC turns out to be some sort of porno. So I've trained myself to resist the temptation of clicking an unknown tinyurl. | |
| <superkirbyartist> IT'S NOT! (It's the weebl peaches movie). | |
| <Majic> Damnit, another Japanese porno... | |
| <Majic> *kidding* | |
| <superkirbyartist> Do you like the movie? | |
| <Majic> *clicks unknown link now* | |
| <superkirbyartist> Are you francais Monsieur Majic? | |
| <Majic> Hmm....very random. 0.o | |
| <Majic> I liked the part where Bush screamed like agirl. | |
| <superkirbyartist> LOL :-D | |
| <superkirbyartist> Anyways... Laptop, 266mhz Pentium MMX, 192MB RAM, 2GB HD... enough for XUbuntu? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yup. | |
| <Majic> Yep. | |
| <superkirbyartist> Quelqu'un d'autre a vu le film des peches? Et Xubuntu fonctionnera comment bien sur 5 etoiles? | |
| <terracon> I have a 266 with 128 megs runnning xubuntu. 5 gig hard drive though but 2 gig will do | |
| <superkirbyartist> Performance rank of my laptop out of 5 stars? | |
| <superkirbyartist> 1-2-3-4-5? Higher is better? What number is best for my PC? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Never mind. Ciao. | |
| <Majic> Gaim was kind of horrible for IRC. Much more options in XChat. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Gaim is horrible, in general. | |
| <ellioTb> what up | |
| <ellioTb> woohoo! i turned off the annoying screenlock everytime i close my laptop | |
| <Majic> Gaim does well for compatibility...but not in features. | |
| <Majic> You can get on any chat network generally...but there's not a lot for customization of the GUI. | |
| <Majic> And you can't work with some features in IRC. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's got a complex interface and not enough functionality. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Plus it has trouble following simple WM rules. | |
| <ellioTb> i don't mess with irc on gaim | |
| <ellioTb> but for yahoo, aim, google, msn it works great | |
| <ellioTb> /echo $ip | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It works. | |
| <ellioTb> hrmm | |
| <ellioTb> i have a weird ip | |
| <ellioTb> gotta love hotels with fast free wireless internet though :) | |
| <Majic> at least you're not ellioTb!*@lv.cox.lv.cox.net | |
| <Majic> I've seen someone with an IP like that. ;p | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, cox internet | |
| <ellioTb> don't think i have ever been a 12. though | |
| *** thomas_ is now known as Commander-Crowe | |
| <cellofellow> could someone please go to mellowcellofellow.is-a-geek.net and see if it's working for me? | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: ? could you? | |
| <ellioTb> i will for a dollar | |
| <ellioTb> test page for apache | |
| <cellofellow> good | |
| <cellofellow> I was getting the admin page for my router from this side | |
| <cellofellow> ellioTb: I don't have a paypal account or credit cards I can't send a dollar. :-) | |
| <ellioTb> when i am behind my router | |
| <ellioTb> and i wanna http to my linux server | |
| <ellioTb> i just add my website address to hosts | |
| <ellioTb> like elliot.rootservers.org | |
| <ellioTb> i can't get to from behind my router unless i do that | |
| <cellofellow> but, when I put my routers external IP instead it still did that, like my machince could tell the computers were the same | |
| <cellofellow> which I don't think is right | |
| <cellofellow> why am I getting the internal port when I want the external? | |
| <cellofellow> anyone? | |
| <cellofellow> wel, I figured it was something to do with being on the the inside of the nat and that someone outside could see it just fine that's why I asked here. | |
| <cellofellow> cya all | |
| * Majic goes to take a shower. bbl yall | |
| <Commander-Crowe> eh | |
| <JKnife> beh | |
| <JKnife> ceh def | |
| <JKnife> deh* | |
| <Commander-Crowe> yeah | |
| <JKnife> o.O 3:02am.. i should REALLY goto bed =/ | |
| <Commander-Crowe> is it now? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> its only 12 here | |
| * JKnife is on EST | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oh | |
| <Commander-Crowe> just pretend your in PST | |
| <JKnife> =/ i don't wanna | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ok | |
| <Commander-Crowe> Teh One is coming | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hello all | |
| <JKnife> "[Lunar]_Bartender_-_01_[x264][1280x720][1639E648].mkv" *1280x720* omg that is high res for a tv show | |
| <Commander-Crowe> is it now? | |
| <JKnife> yeah.. that is the size for high def IIRC | |
| <JKnife> "350.74kB/s" ^_^ | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ah | |
| <Commander-Crowe> so I thought | |
| <Commander-Crowe> my lag is 12 seconds | |
| <JKnife> o.O YAY, i can make it worse =/ | |
| * JKnife waits 24secs | |
| <Commander-Crowe> MUHAHAHA | |
| <Commander-Crowe> If it wasn't for this blasted dial up I would have a ton of things to do | |
| <JKnife> haha.. like pull Anime? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ACK | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I hate anime almost as much as I hate porn | |
| <JKnife> o.O | |
| <JKnife> ummm | |
| * JKnife ignores Commander-Crowe | |
| <Commander-Crowe> wha? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> <!doctype HTML 4.01 /> | |
| <Commander-Crowe> will that sufice? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> suffice * | |
| <JKnife> only if your code upholds the 4.01 stds | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oh? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> TheSheep said to add the doctype thing | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I'm just not to sure what I should put into it | |
| <JKnife> use screem or somethin if you are not sure... | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ah | |
| *** kalikiana7 is now known as kalikiana | |
| <Hazuki> okay, question...I have an Inspiron 1100 with an 845 chipset. The screen has a 640x480 window in the center where everything is and I can | |
| <Hazuki> 't expand it to 1024x768 | |
| <romana> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | |
| <romana> have yr monitor settings and graphics card details:) | |
| <romana> oh use medium for monitors | |
| <romana> now, thers probably a gui tool | |
| <romana> but i dont do guis;) | |
| <Hazuki> I get this error on glxinfo: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b | |
| <Hazuki> okay, it wrote the file...let's see if this works. Thank you <3 | |
| *** Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch | |
| <Ramla> Can I put some package update to some kind of an ignore list when upgrading with apt? I got a build of wine that works with WoW and it gets upgraded by one that doesn't every time there's something else to upgrade | |
| *** sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt | |
| <TheSheep> Ramla: yes, but forgot how. in synaptic, there is 'lock version' option in the menu | |
| <Ramla> Does it work for commandline apt-get? | |
| <Ramla> I might even try | |
| <Ramla> Seems synaptic only.. well, will do upgrades with synaptic then | |
| <Ramla> Also I notice after fiddling with compiz/xgl-stuff yesterday my AltGr-key doesn't work ;o | |
| <Ramla> Anyone know some app to see if it even gives any input signal? | |
| <kalikiana> Ramla: You mean testing your AltGR key? Just try AltGr+ a letter :) | |
| <Ramla> Found the app, xev.. | |
| <Ramla> Yeh, that doesn't work | |
| <Ramla> altgr+anything just gives the same input as that anything-key without altgr | |
| <Ramla> Xev prints keypress events and keyrelease events, so at least the button on my keyboard works | |
| <TheSheep> ąęść | |
| <TheSheep> works for me | |
| <TheSheep> ah, I don't have xgl, sry | |
| <Ramla> I was just removing all them packages, trying to revert what might've gone wrong | |
| <jimcooncat> quite happy with dapper, I'd like to find if edgy upgrade is worthwhile. Thoughts? URLs? | |
| <TheSheep> Ramla: I think in some tutrotials I've seen they load a keymap after starting xgl | |
| <TheSheep> jimcooncat: it' | |
| <TheSheep> jimcooncat: it's a tad unstable | |
| <Ramla> Hmm.. and i'd have to reload mine again now? | |
| <TheSheep> Ramla: not sure, I don't know this stuff | |
| <jimcooncat> TheSheep, in what way please? | |
| <TheSheep> jimcooncat: upgrading is not straightforward, for one, and then there are sometimes problems with some hardware | |
| <jimcooncat> Thanks, TheSheep, I'll probably be happier checking out backports until I do more research. | |
| <TheSheep> jimcooncat: besides trashcan and lots of under-the-hood fixes there is not much new in edgy | |
| <TheSheep> ah, and firefox2 | |
| <jimcooncat> yeah, I'm only interested in newest versions of a few progs, firefox, thunderbird, postgres, python and tools | |
| <TheSheep> I'm actually one leg in feisty now :) | |
| <jimcooncat> how's that coming along? | |
| <TheSheep> jimcooncat: I don't track it much, I just installed xfce rc2 with deps from the feisty repos | |
| <Storkme> how can i edit the grub boot order so it boots the generic kernel by default instead of the 386 kernel? | |
| <cga> TheSheep, hi && yesterday i tried to hibernate the PC and it failed. the problem now is that everytime i boot it shows up the BIOS. is it a bug ? do you know how to solve this problem? any file i have to modifiy? thanks | |
| <TheSheep> 'shows up the bios'? | |
| <cga> yep | |
| <TheSheep> Storkme: sudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst | |
| <TheSheep> cga: what does thismean? | |
| <Storkme> TheSheep, which bits do i edit? | |
| <cga> instead of booting directly it make the BIOS appear and i have to exit and then it boots. | |
| <TheSheep> Storkme: you wanted to change order? | |
| <Storkme> TheSheep, yeah but which bits do i change to change the order | |
| <TheSheep> cga: any messages before entering the bios setup? | |
| <cga> nope | |
| <cga> it appear as just as you press "del" at boot | |
| <TheSheep> cga: something like "bad cmos checksum, entering setup" or something | |
| <TheSheep> cga: did you try savingthe setup? | |
| <cga> yes , i saved and it doesn't work | |
| <cga> didnt' notice any message gonna reboot and check for that. be right back | |
| <TheSheep> cga: did you try to resetthe settings to defaults? | |
| <cga> indeed | |
| <cga> TheSheep, gonna reboot and check for messages, be right back. | |
| <cga> TheSheep, no messages at all. the BIOS shows up right after memory check. i can't understand what happens. i've even entered in a "BIOS-loop" now. ie: 1. boot --> 2. BIOS --> esc or save and save and exit --> restart from 1; don't know how i got out from that loop and i've managed to boot. | |
| <cga> this thing worrys me. | |
| <cga> TheSheep, FYI: i go for lunch now. i'll be back in 30 minutes. | |
| <rarj> I cant install Xubuntu | |
| <cga> TheSheep, ping | |
| <cga> rarj, what's the problem? | |
| <rarj> gives me an error running configure | |
| <rarj> im running the .bin | |
| <rarj> ./control.sh: line 249: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' | |
| <cga> what bin? | |
| <rarj> thats the error | |
| <rarj> xubuntu binary | |
| <cga> rarj, how about installing from an .iso??? that's a more canonical way (pun intended) and it works for everyone. | |
| <rarj> :) i know.. but im on a slow connection. | |
| <cga> oh i see. sorry but i can't help with bin, i didn't even know about this possibility. | |
| <rarj> its there on the Xubuntu site | |
| <rarj> ok | |
| <cga> gonna read | |
| <JKnife> o.O Xubuntu has a .bin installer?!?! | |
| <cga> sounds strange to me too. but i don't exclude that in GNU/Linux , it always surprise me :P | |
| <Gloubiboulga> ... | |
| <Gloubiboulga> a .bin? | |
| <JKnife> Gloubiboulga: think shell script | |
| <JKnife> i gotta go | |
| <superkirbyartist> What can I expect out of a laptop 266mhz 2GB HD 192MB RAM? | |
| <superkirbyartist> With Xubuntu? | |
| <pleia2> I have a laptop with such specs, it runs OK with Xubuntu | |
| <superkirbyartist> How good in percentage? | |
| <pleia2> I did a really slim install though, started with the alternate CD | |
| <pleia2> percentage? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Yes. | |
| <pleia2> percentage of what? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Higher is better. How would you rate it: | |
| <superkirbyartist> And can I use the regular CD? | |
| <pleia2> you can try | |
| <pleia2> it depends on what apps you use | |
| <pleia2> I use a terminal and firefox, works fine | |
| <pleia2> gimp is OK too | |
| <pleia2> I don't really use anything else on that laptop, so I can't say :) | |
| <superkirbyartist> How do you rate it on your laptop? Higher or lower that Windows Whatever? | |
| <cga> TheSheep, ping | |
| <pleia2> I haven't used Windows in years, and never on that laptop | |
| <pleia2> so I haven't a clue | |
| <superkirbyartist> I mean, should I try Windows 95/98/XP, or Xubuntu, on that laptop? | |
| <superkirbyartist> I own no Windows PC anymore. | |
| <pleia2> Windows 95 and 98 are EOL, you shouldn't use them at all | |
| <superkirbyartist> EOL means End Of Line? | |
| <HeathenDan> xubuntu would be best since it's the newest. win 95 is very old and not a lot of modern apps support it | |
| <pleia2> end of life, yeah, they don't give out upgrades anymore, security holes go unpatched | |
| <superkirbyartist> Right. Like FF, Gimp, Kopete... | |
| <HeathenDan> win 98 is EOL, but it will run ok on your specs. XP will be very sluggish | |
| <superkirbyartist> Well that's Microsoft. They always want you to pay, pay, pay. | |
| <superkirbyartist> XP isn't stable at all. Always "non responding" errors. As for 98, those errors are there, less often, but more BSoD. | |
| <superkirbyartist> As for Ubuntu, those errors rarely happen, but there are also (rare) computer hangs and freezes. | |
| <ke> "K if Windows | |
| <superkirbyartist> That need me to reboot. | |
| <ke> 2K if Windows | |
| <pleia2> 2K is also EOL | |
| <superkirbyartist> I wouldn't even go with 2K. Not popular. | |
| <ke> Yah, true | |
| <HeathenDan> 2k is not eol yet | |
| <HeathenDan> i think 2009 | |
| <pleia2> HeathenDan: that's only if you pay | |
| <superkirbyartist> And EOL support too? I didn't know that. See, at least when Canonical ends support, you can use another better version for free. I wonder why people use Warty still. | |
| <superkirbyartist> And most ppl get crack CDs. | |
| <superkirbyartist> So they don't have to pay, but no WGA. | |
| <superkirbyartist> As for Ubuntu, there is no "UGA", you just download what you want. | |
| <superkirbyartist> In conclusion, why pay for something free? And openoffice.org comes with MS Office document support. | |
| <superkirbyartist> But why do people still use warty? Is it "lighter on the PC"? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Anyone? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Hello? | |
| <TheSheep> re | |
| <TheSheep> cga: you still here? | |
| <superkirbyartist> I feel like a loner :-(. | |
| <cga> yep, gimme some minutes, i'm helping someone | |
| <HeathenDan> some people cannot upgrade from warty. no decent internet connection and all that | |
| <HeathenDan> or they just choose to | |
| <superkirbyartist> But what can you do with it ?!? | |
| <pleia2> and if it's not online they might not be as worried about security | |
| <superkirbyartist> It's the old firefox gaim etc. | |
| <pleia2> you can do a lot on a computer without internet :) | |
| <superkirbyartist> You got a point. So mostly offline people. | |
| <pleia2> or if they're behind a strict firewall and the machine only interacts on the LAN | |
| <superkirbyartist> You can, but Internet lets you connect to others. | |
| <cga> TheSheep, yep, gimme some minutes, i'm helping someone | |
| <TheSheep> cga: nothing important, just that I hvae no idea how to help you XD | |
| <pleia2> or if they don't care about security, or use other methods besides ubuntu upgrades to stay secure, or don't use software that has known security bugs.. | |
| <cga> TheSheep, oh.. shame on you :P | |
| <superkirbyartist> Well I have internet so I always upgrade to the new. | |
| <slow-motion> hallo | |
| <kalikiana> hallo | |
| <hans> hi all. | |
| <hans> i've got a slight problem | |
| <kalikiana> hi, hans | |
| <kalikiana> what's it? | |
| <hans> okay, I know that it isn't excactly xubuntu. but I hope it is generally the same. | |
| <hans> if fstab contains wrong information | |
| <hans> and linux can't boot | |
| <hans> then is there a way to edit it? | |
| <hans> i can open it with vi, but it is read-only | |
| <hans> and chmod doesn't work | |
| <HeathenDan> run the livecd and edit it | |
| <kalikiana> hans, try 'gksu /etc/fstab' | |
| <kalikiana> correction: 'gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab' | |
| <hans> unfortunately it is not xubuntu, i got tired of xfce and wanted to try kde. because my computer is too slow, kubuntu didn't run well, so i have arklinux | |
| <hans> with no sudo at all | |
| <hans> nor gksudo | |
| <hans> but the setup configured the system wrong | |
| <kalikiana> so what about 'su' | |
| <kalikiana> like 'su' and 'mousepad /etc/fstab' | |
| <hans> i'm afraid that there isn't any mousepad on the system, just plain old vi | |
| <hans> but su did something | |
| <kalikiana> 'su' gives you admin rights | |
| <hans> the text in vi appeared coloured | |
| <hans> so I guess I should be root now. | |
| <kalikiana> yep :) | |
| <hans> but it still tells me that fstab is read-only | |
| <hans> and although i'm root, it doesn't let me chmod itr | |
| <hans> so, is there any way besides choosing a more decent distro :)? | |
| <TheSheep> hans: maybe the partition is mounted read only? | |
| <TheSheep> hans: type 'mount' and see | |
| <TheSheep> hans: if so, remount it rw | |
| <hans> the problem is that it cannot mount at all, because fat32 drives are intitulated as ext3 drives in fstab. and during the booting process it just terminates because of the errors | |
| <hans> so it has the / drive mounted | |
| <hans> but not the fat32s with my older data | |
| <hans> and the booting sequence stops | |
| <superkirbyartist> Xubuntu comes with Abiword and Gnumeric. What's for slideshows? | |
| <superkirbyartist> Please? | |
| <JKnife> HeathenDan: is Bartender any good? | |
| <JKnife> i pulled the first 3 and have yet to watch em | |
| <HeathenDan> sorry, haven't seen it | |
| <JKnife> ok | |
| * JKnife is on EP67 of bleach ^_^ | |
| <JKnife> ohh bleachportal goes 1-40 = Anime-Keep 41-49 - Lunar Anime and rest is done by DB | |
| <JKnife> holy crap this is good quality =) | |
| <slow-motion> re | |
| <JKnife> HeathenDan: it is good.. it is not the normal Anime nor have the classic cel-shad look all around.. only the people, and some enviroments are cel sahded, rest is ray traced 3d | |
| <JKnife> and the story isn't bad for the first one | |
| <ellioTb> what up knife! | |
| <JKnife> -_- what do you want? | |
| <ellioTb> your mom | |
| <ellioTb> don't be jealous of my 12.x ip address | |
| <JKnife> really? don't be jealous of me hiding my ip XD | |
| <ellioTb> lol | |
| <ellioTb> too lazy to find an op to hide it | |
| <ellioTb> guess i could make a donation | |
| * JKnife didn't | |
| <JKnife> see if rob is on... | |
| <JKnife> blah he is afk | |
| <ellioTb> weak | |
| <ellioTb> they need a repo for xfce and new version of it, like they do with kde | |
| <ellioTb> err versions | |
| <ellioTb> and one for openoffice since the ubuntu package is fubar | |
| <ellioTb> and i had a hell of a time trying to compile the latest version from source | |
| <JKnife> "they need a repo for xfce and new version of it, like they do with kde" yeah it is called edgy+1, | |
| <ellioTb> cause i was going to have to manually update a bunch of libs | |
| <ellioTb> really? i don't wanna have to upgrade to fiesty though | |
| <ellioTb> cause i'll dist-upgrade and crash my comp | |
| <JKnife> lol | |
| <JKnife> Xubuntu has been good at keeping up with the latest version of XFCE... IIRC crimsun said he did upload rc2 so yeah they are up-to-date | |
| <ellioTb> oh nice, nevermind then | |
| <ellioTb> just saw that kde had their own repos, but i guess that could be dangerous too | |
| <ellioTb> would rather have some1 that knows what they are doing with xubuntu make em | |
| <JKnife> kubuntu has always had there own repo =/ | |
| <ellioTb> found an ubuntu games repo, so i could get the new version of frozen bubble | |
| <JKnife> lol | |
| <ellioTb> cept it seems exactly like the old one, just some new features, i was hoping for a nice upgrade | |
| <ellioTb> like fix the crappy gameplay some | |
| <ellioTb> heh | |
| <JKnife> if you think the gameplay is crappy... then why do you play it? | |
| <ellioTb> lol, i don't | |
| <ellioTb> i am just a bust-a-move slut, and was hoping they made the controls a lil easier | |
| <ellioTb> aight, gotta go get some free breakfast at this hotel, talk to ya later | |
| <JKnife> lol | |
| <JKnife> c ya | |
| <patientfox> hi... does anyone know how to change the keyboard layout post-install? | |
| <TheSheep> patientfox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | |
| <slow-motion> bye | |
| <Laibsch> Tried to upgrade from dapper to ubuntu via /cdrom/cdromupdate. The install seems to hang now (no more progress for the last 6 hours or so). Two questions, can I try and fix this with aptitude or should I not do that? What info should I attach to the bug report? | |
| <sa0> hi all | |
| <sa0> atm i'm under ubuntu | |
| <sa0> i want to swtich cause on my laptop, it's too heavy and too slow | |
| <Majic> Doesn't really matter, there are few differences across the 3 versions. | |
| <sa0> possible to switch cleanly easily ? | |
| <Laibsch> sa0: thanks for letting us know ;-) | |
| <Majic> I mean, I wasn't talking, you saw nothing. Xubuntu is easier on computer resources... later. | |
| <Laibsch> sa0: Ah, there is the question ;-) | |
| <Laibsch> sa0: Easy. just install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <sa0> only needed ? | |
| <Laibsch> Yup. | |
| <sa0> but everything about gnome etc ... | |
| <Majic> You can just switch sessions at login to Xubuntu. | |
| <Laibsch> Upon login (I assume gdm) you can choose which windowing system to use. | |
| <sa0> will the process uninstall everything about gnome and all taking many space on my hd | |
| <Laibsch> sa0: I would keep that installed for the moment | |
| <Laibsch> No uninstall unless you tell it to. | |
| <Majic> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <Majic> right? | |
| <Majic> Only 46 Mbs... | |
| <sa0> ok, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" done | |
| <sa0> so now ? | |
| <Majic> 0.o | |
| <Majic> Er...I was just suggesting...I think that's how you install the desktop environment though. | |
| <Majic> Then you just switch sessions at login to the XFCE desktop environment... | |
| <sa0> huh ! | |
| <Majic> How'd you download all that so quickly? | |
| <sa0> will it really free resources ? | |
| <Majic> Yes, it should... | |
| <Majic> Uses Thunar instead of Nautilus...right? The file manager? | |
| <Majic> Or.....I'm not sure. You could try it, but this is all just a theory. | |
| <sa0> to me always slow | |
| <Majic> I don't know everything about what I"m talking about. You could try it, but don't expect my suggestions to work. | |
| <Majic> It's just what I think will work. I'm not sure on it... | |
| <jester45> could anyone please tell me how to set up a linksys wpc11 wireless network adapter | |
| <jester45> i really need to fixed asap | |
| <jester45> i have linux-wlan-ng installed but dont know what to do aftyer that | |
| <jester45> it is also configured in the network settings tab | |
| <home__> hi all1 | |
| <Majic> hello | |
| <home__> i have one problem with xmms | |
| <home__> if start, Erro de bus (core dumped) | |
| <home__> how to correct this? | |
| <TheSheep> bus errors usually happen with corrupted memory | |
| <home__> TheSheep: ? | |
| <TheSheep> home__: run memtest | |
| <TheSheep> home__: when you boot, you can press esc and select 'memtset' from the menu | |
| <home__> fisycal problem/ | |
| <home__> ok | |
| <home__> thank you | |
| <jester45> does anyone know hwo to get a linksys wpc11 working i have linux-wlan and the network settings are correct | |
| <ormiret> jester45: is iwlist seeing your AP? | |
| <jester45> sas | |
| <jester45> says interface in [] then scanning then {interface}frequency on a new line and so one with about 10 other things | |
| <ormiret> sorry, run 'iwlist [interface name] scan' | |
| <jester45> i have to go i will be on in about 30-45 minutes from now | |
| <ormiret> OK | |
| <jester45> im at frineds have have to go home so i will get basck on and call him up and tell him what to do | |
| <MattJ> kalikiana: Was it you who wanted to stop people shutting down your PC? | |
| *** bdgraue_ is now known as bdgraue | |
| * Majic goes to watch the Polar Expresso. | |
| <Majic> Express* | |
| * MattJ wonders what a polar espresso tastes like | |
| <cello_rasp> hi :) its got little bits of tomi hanks in it | |
| <MattJ> :S | |
| <JKnife> i heard he tasted like chicken =/ | |
| <MattJ> How can I get a list of installed packages on the command line? | |
| <pleia2> dpkg -l | |
| <MattJ> Thought so, thanks :) | |
| <MattJ> I reinstall so often, I'm saving the package list in a text file | |
| <TheSheep> %) | |
| <TheSheep> MattJ: make a disk dump, you won;t need to reinstall, just dd it back XD | |
| <JKnife> dd if=/dev/hda of=/really/big/spot | |
| <TheSheep> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/eth0 | |
| <JKnife> haha | |
| <MattJ> diff But then that's surely not a re-install, is it? :) | |
| <MattJ> and I couldn't do that upgrading from dapper to edgy | |
| <MattJ> Haha ^^ | |
| <JKnife> BUT network devices are not stored in /dev =/ | |
| <TheSheep> MattJ: package names changed between edgy and dapper | |
| <TheSheep> JKnife: they were before udev | |
| <TheSheep> I think | |
| <TheSheep> therefore I am | |
| <MattJ> Like what changed? | |
| <Majic> the name. :p | |
| <TheSheep> MattJ: the video drivers for X, for example | |
| <MattJ> . | |
| <JKnife> TheSheep: no, when i used archlinux i had a devfs setup and it wasn't there =/ | |
| <TheSheep> What's in a name? | |
| <MattJ> Where did /dev/tcp go? | |
| <MattJ> Is it not in Debian-based distros, or...? | |
| <JKnife> udev took it =/ | |
| <MattJ> ^^ | |
| <JKnife> udev took everything.. BUT i like the /dev/hd* better then /dev/disc/ | |
| <JKnife> MattJ: ohh the meta package name also changed it now is XuBuNtU-dEsKtOp | |
| <MattJ> Then I'm running what? KDE? | |
| <JKnife> MattJ: no.. it changed from xubuntu-desktop ^_^ | |
| <Majic> Reality.sys not found. Universe halted. | |
| <JKnife> :) | |
| <MattJ> Anyone here running dapper? :) | |
| <MattJ> It has to be someone willing to pastebin `dpkg -l` too :) | |
| <archangelpetro> how the hell do i stop xorg slowly taking up more and more memory? | |
| <crimsun> restart gdm periodically. | |
| <archangelpetro> that sucks :/ | |
| <crimsun> don't use composite | |
| <archangelpetro> composite? | |
| <crimsun> file bugs against gui apps | |
| <JKnife> use cli | |
| <crimsun> getty leaks RAM ohnoes! | |
| <archangelpetro> i dont know what composite is | |
| <kalikiana> composite is Beryl or Compiz -> Eye-Candy | |
| <kalikiana> and it does get slow after 20 hours or so | |
| <JKnife> kalikiana: it is also XFWM4 o.O | |
| <crimsun> composite is an extension used by beryl/compiz/xfwm4 (optionall) | |
| <crimsun> +y | |
| <crimsun> the underlying arch can either be aiglx or xgl | |
| <kalikiana> !composite | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <JKnife> forgot kwin,xcompmgr and e17...i think that is it =¿ | |
| <crimsun> there are millions of apps that can use composite | |
| <JKnife> i am talking about manager =) | |
| <JKnife> e16* | |
| <JKnife> e17 uses its own thing | |
| <kalikiana> but xfwm4 is pretty damn slow | |
| <kalikiana> although I'd like to use it speaking of stabilitty | |
| <kalikiana> s/stabilitty/stability | |
| <crimsun> slow? | |
| <crimsun> I find it's much faster than compiz or beryl | |
| <crimsun> granted that's not an apples<->apples | |
| <kalikiana> crimsun: Is your machine fast or slow? I have a P4 3GHz/ 1G RAM and it *is* slow. | |
| <kalikiana> crimsun: Even moving windows is lame - with translucency it's horrible. | |
| <crimsun> kalikiana: I'd call a P 233 MMX fairly slow. | |
| <kalikiana> crimsun: Maybe there's not much difference then? Just a guess. | |
| <crimsun> yes, if I enable translucency for moving windows, it becomes rather nasty | |
| <crimsun> I'm not that silly, however | |
| <crimsun> if I wanted to stab myself in the eye, I'd just stab myself in the eye instead | |
| <kalikiana> crimsun: Probably there is hope for improvement in the future as Beryl is actually able to render much faster. | |
| <crimsun> I certainly think so | |
| <boris55> what repo can I add to apt/sources.list that will have the latest nvidia-glx driver? | |
| <crimsun> probably amaranth's repo. | |
| <crimsun> don't know it off the top of my head. | |
| <boris55> is it this one? deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm | |
| <crimsun> maybe | |
| <crimsun> I don't use external repos, so I don't know | |
| <gnomefreak> boris55: yes he has one for edgy | |
| <gnomefreak> boris55: deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm is the repo | |
| <boris55> ok. all I see id nvidia-glx-legacy. doens't look like that's what I need. | |
| <boris55> ok. I'm going to try again later. | |
| <boris55> not sure why it's not there. | |
| <icheyne> has anyone had system crashes when writing long Gmail emails in Firefox? | |
| <crimsun> no | |
| <icheyne> hmm | |
| <cello_rasp> does anyone else find that thunar sorts [A-Z] before [a-z] ?? | |
| <cello_rasp> icheyne no. ask in linux or ubuntu about log messages | |
| <kalikiana> cello_rasp: that'S normal | |
| <cello_rasp> id like to know how the thunar dev justifies this, because its certainly not user friendly | |
| <cello_rasp> icheyne looking at the logs might shed some light on why system crashed | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> cello_rasp: It's configurable. | |
| <cello_rasp> thanks. im not too good at reading bug reports but it doesnt seem like b. meurer cares how strange it is to have off by default. its still user unfriendly since you need to edit files to do so. | |
| <cello_rasp> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2064 | |
| <Ubugtu> bugzilla.xfce.org bug 2064 in general "Sensitive case" [Enhancement,Closed: fixed] | |
| <Garadas> hi, hope all is well with u ppl | |
| <Garadas> i am struggling abit with a install of xubuntu | |
| <Garadas> all i going well until i install mdadm (with package) | |
| <Garadas> it seems to be doing something with intird | |
| <Garadas> get some hw_random: cannot enable RNG, aborting | |
| <Garadas> that i get after i install the mdadm package | |
| <Garadas> an1 know of this ? | |
| <josesito> is it possible to plug a webcam (which i havent installed yet) and make it work without having to restart?? | |
| <josesito> someone? | |
| <cello_rasp> yes | |
| <cello_rasp> you can insatll drivers w/out a restart | |
| <josesito> is it possible to plug a webcam (which i havent installed yet) and make it work without having to restart?? | |
| <cello_rasp> the only time you need to restart is when you change the kernel | |
| <josesito> oh ok | |
| <josesito> well, if my webcam worked when i installed breezy, it should work now right?? | |
| *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ | |
| <cello_rasp> hmm.. keep breezy on hand just in case | |
| <josesito> .... | |
| <cello_rasp> my usb keyboard acted differently from breezy | |
| <josesito> i already have dapper | |
| <josesito> =) | |
| <josesito> lol! i had problems with sound! | |
| <cello_rasp> it will be supported | |
| <josesito> cello_rasp, back to the webcam: my webcam is a generic one, it doesn't even have any brand on it | |
| <josesito> so i don't know anything about it.... | |
| <josesito> what would i have to do to see if it was detected or not? | |
| <cello_rasp> you can find out the make from system monitor | |
| <josesito> how? | |
| <cello_rasp> sorry i meant device manager | |
| <cello_rasp> try hal-device-manager | |
| <cellofellow> cello_rasp: cool name | |
| <cello_rasp> thanks man its an anagram tho i dont play the cello or nothin but i llike the versatility :) | |
| <cellofellow> oh cool | |
| <cello_rasp> josesito: hal-device-manager will show your system plus the usb buses :) | |
| <josesito> ok | |
| <josesito> ill try | |
| * cellofellow has played for seven years | |
| * cellofellow has got to re-login | |
| <cellofellow> brb | |
| <josesito> hehe..... hal-device returns ALOT of info | |
| <cello_rasp> yeah but it is very very useful | |
| <josesito> what should i look for?? | |
| <cello_rasp> ..... USB Hub .... > ... host controller .... > usb hub interface .... > your device | |
| <cello_rasp> hal-device-manager is easier to go through than hal-device | |
| <josesito> the problem is that hal-device-manager returns an error | |
| <cello_rasp> often the hardware will identify itself with just a code name | |
| <cello_rasp> output that bug | |
| <cello_rasp> what does it say | |
| <josesito> josesito@josesito-pc:~$ hal-device-manager | |
| <josesito> bash: hal-device-manager: orden no encontrada | |
| <josesito> order not found | |
| <josesito> or command not found | |
| <cello_rasp> sudo apt-get install hal-device-manager | |
| <josesito> lol | |
| <josesito> that's another problem | |
| <josesito> .... | |
| <josesito> i'm upgrading right now...and it'll take about 5 hours... | |
| <Jester45> ha | |
| <cello_rasp> my friend, if you need it and cannot install it i don't know what to say! | |
| <josesito> hehe | |
| <cello_rasp> alternatively google for *any* serial number on the web cam. | |
| <cello_rasp> that works very well for me | |
| <josesito> actually i don't need it... =) it was just a challenge....i wanted to see if i would be able to make it work whithout restarting or using sunaptiy | |
| <josesito> synaptic | |
| <josesito> lol^2 | |
| <Jester45> i dont use it | |
| * cello_rasp has no expeirnce with using webcams so wouldnt know how to test it | |
| <josesito> that's another problem.... the camera has NOTHING written on it! it's so generic that it doesn't even have a generic brand name | |
| <josesito> i think i'll have to wait until tommorrow... | |
| <josesito> thanks anyway cello_rasp | |
| * josesito sighs | |
| <Garadas> an1 good at mdadm? | |
| <cello_rasp> "but they said ubuntu would stop global warming!!" | |
| <Garadas> get some errors | |
| <Jester45> nope | |
| *** arnducky is now known as arnduckytoo | |
| <cellofellow> hi somerville32 | |
| <somerville32> Hi | |
| <JKnife> o.O | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: what? | |
| <JKnife> ¯\(°.o)/¯ | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife likes UTF-8 to much | |
| <JKnife> :) | |
| <Commander-Crowe> haha | |
| <cellofellow> i'm an apache newb. what setting in one of the conf files is it set the homepage to be / and not /apache2-default ? | |
| <cellofellow> anyone? | |
| <JKnife> look at /etc/apache2 | |
| <cellofellow> found something | |
| <JKnife> ¯±¯ | |
| <JKnife> he has a nose now! | |
| <cellofellow> can you tell me where I can learn how to do the unicode stuff I can't find anything | |
| * cellofellow found the file | |
| <JKnife> man screen | |
| <JKnife> :) | |
| <cellofellow> it's part of screen? | |
| <cellofellow> I thought that stuff you were doing was just part of linux's keyboard handling | |
| <Commander-Crowe> how do i link a CSS page/file thing to my HTML pages? | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: um, one minute I know thiss... | |
| * cellofellow forgot how | |
| <cellofellow> it's some special thing in a link tag in the head | |
| <Commander-Crowe> haha | |
| <Commander-Crowe> lik <style ccs.html /> | |
| <Commander-Crowe> like* | |
| <cellofellow> um, something like <link type=style /the/file.css /> | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oh | |
| <cellofellow> well, it's src"/the/file.css" | |
| <cellofellow> but in what tag I dunno | |
| <cellofellow> src="... | |
| <cellofellow> you can use relative urls | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hm | |
| <cellofellow> like "../styles/default.css" | |
| <cellofellow> but I forget exactly how | |
| * cellofellow found something | |
| <cellofellow> never mind :-( | |
| <cellofellow> un-never mind | |
| <cellofellow> <head> | |
| <cellofellow> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" | |
| <cellofellow> href="mystyle.css" /> | |
| <cellofellow> </head> | |
| <cellofellow> there it is | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: in screen press ^a-^v >> | |
| <JKnife> » | |
| <cellofellow> ok | |
| * cellofellow isnt' using screen :/ | |
| <cellofellow> atm | |
| <JKnife> and you are using irssi? BAD cellofellow! | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: ^^^^^^^^^^ | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: in urxvt though | |
| <JKnife> .. 1/2 way bad cellofellow! | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: do you have a launcher for openning irssi? a panel button or desktop icon? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I see it | |
| <Commander-Crowe> and it works thanks | |
| <cellofellow> if you do what command is in it? | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: umm nope... | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: no problem? | |
| <cellofellow> ! | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: oh, well | |
| <JKnife> i just leave it running in screen and do 'screen -r' | |
| <trincamckee> hi there | |
| <Jester45> hi | |
| <Jester45> anyone know how to setup a linksys wlan card for a lappy | |
| * cellofellow would like to know too | |
| <trincamckee> cool nice tip in topic about compositor menu | |
| <trincamckee> just what i was looking for | |
| <Jester45> i have the linux-wlan-ng installed | |
| <trincamckee> tank you | |
| <Jester45> lol | |
| <JKnife> trincamckee: :) | |
| <JKnife> tank? | |
| * JKnife stands up with a bag of rocks | |
| <Jester45> tank = thank | |
| <JKnife> ohh no you don't! | |
| <JKnife> ohh ok then | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: no he doesn't what? get picky about spelling? | |
| <trincamckee> i mean thank | |
| <trincamckee> =) | |
| <Jester45> or typing | |
| <cellofellow> Jester45: I don't mind it | |
| <JKnife> cellofellow: ¯¯ you have seen the pictures of the kids standing in the street thoughing rocks at tanks, right? | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: um, I think so | |
| <Jester45> those kids would get owned with one shot | |
| <JKnife> 32 more eps of bleach before i am cought up ^_^ | |
| <JKnife> Jester45: :) | |
| <Commander-Crowe> whats the css version of <br>? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> and whats the css version of <center>? | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: um, generally CSS is for the style and formatting. I don't think it handles break | |
| <cellofellow> http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp | |
| <cellofellow> read | |
| <JKnife> CSS is just like the colour, the forums, and stuff like that. | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ok | |
| <JKnife> it does not do <br> BUT is can do <center> | |
| <Commander-Crowe> and what format does the mystyle.css file have to be in? | |
| <cellofellow> utf-8, with teh css extension | |
| <cellofellow> the* | |
| <cellofellow> it's just text | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I mean inside the file | |
| <Commander-Crowe> like do I still have to do <html> <head> <style>? | |
| <cellofellow> just put styles in. no openning or closing stuff. | |
| <cellofellow> it's not an html file | |
| <cellofellow> no tags | |
| <cellofellow> http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp | |
| <Commander-Crowe> ok | |
| <kalikiana> hi there :) | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: the w3 thing is really concise and sort of boring, but ok for reference | |
| <cellofellow> kalikiana: hi | |
| <kalikiana> cellofellow: Talking about w3? | |
| <cellofellow> w3schools.com | |
| <Commander-Crowe> well using an external .css file isn't working | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe was having some css questions | |
| <cellofellow> kalikiana: I guess he still is | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: what? | |
| <kalikiana> oh, I thought you would look for html definitions at the w3c and that'd seem weird to me ;) | |
| <kalikiana> Commander-Crowe: what is the problem? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> well | |
| <cellofellow> kalikiana: didn't I say reference? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I wrote the file and linked it to the page | |
| <Commander-Crowe> but its still not working | |
| <Commander-Crowe> the css isn't kicking in | |
| <kalikiana> So post the link line | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: any styles in the head or inline with text take precedence over the linked file | |
| <kalikiana> If you have the web developer tools you can check wether it's recognized | |
| <Commander-Crowe> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css" /> | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: what editor? bluefish? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> scite | |
| <cellofellow> ok, never heard of it | |
| <Commander-Crowe> well | |
| * cellofellow uses nvu for wysiwyg and bluefish for source | |
| <Commander-Crowe> I'm in bluefish now | |
| <kalikiana> cellofellow: scite is like mousepad with syntax hilight and some other features :) | |
| <JKnife> people use screem! | |
| <cellofellow> kalikiana: sounds nice | |
| <cellofellow> JKnife: there's an editor called screem? | |
| <JKnife> yes | |
| <JKnife> really nice for html | |
| <JKnife> supports DW8 templates | |
| <MattJ> cellofellow: I love scite :) | |
| <kalikiana> Commander-Crowe: The syntax is perfectly fine, did you try the developer tools for error check? | |
| <cellofellow> Commander-Crowe: what about the css file? if the html file is good it's maybe the css | |
| <kalikiana> you might paste-bin the file so that we could look at it for typos or something | |
| <MattJ> Commander-Crowe: style.css is in the same folder, and readable by the web server? | |
| <cellofellow> use w3c's css validator | |
| <JKnife> scite is little =/ | |
| <MattJ> scite is little, scite is beautiful | |
| <MattJ> I use it on Windows too | |
| <JKnife> it is a little asian chcick? | |
| <JKnife> chick* | |
| <MattJ> . | |
| <crimsun> what in the world? | |
| <JKnife> o.O i didn't say anything | |
| * JKnife slithers off |