<lophyte> Burgundavia: ping

<Madpilot> hi Burgundavia, hi lophyte

<lophyte> hey Madpilot

<lophyte> how's it going?

<Madpilot> good.

<Madpilot> still haven't updated to Edgy yet, haven't had the day free to babysit the upgrade...

<matjan> Madpilot, don't worry, i only upgraded to dapper the past weekend ;-)

<Madpilot> matjan, nice to know I'm not the most out of date person present :)

<Madpilot> actually, ubuntu.ca is still running Breezy

<matjan> true oldskool ;)

<Madpilot> no, it's just that Burgundavia is lazy

<Madpilot> ;)

<matjan> :)

<matjan> to be honest, i tried upgrading some time in august, but that went wrong because of a kernel incompatibility

<Madpilot> I've got full sudo privs on the ubuntu.ca server too, but I don't want to start the upgrade because Burgundavia is the one with physical access to the machine if the upgrade goes pear-shaped

<matjan> right

<matjan> the upgrade i did now also didn't go really smooth, e.g. LaTeX broke, not all packages linked to ubuntu-desktop were installed, and a few more little things...

<matjan> but now all seems to be working ok... i only have trouble with that fglrx driver...

<Madpilot> My Breezy->Dapper upgrade when horribly wrong; I wound up just re-installing Dapper. Thank Dog for seperate /home partitions

<Madpilot> s/when/went

<Madpilot> but Hoary->Breezy had been painless. Go figure.

<matjan> yeah, i had no trouble at all either with that upgrade

<lophyte> agave is awesome

<PFA> no, *i* am awesome

<tich_> would someone mind taking a look at this howto for flash, (there is one method at the top and one at the bottom): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990&highlight=flash+9+beta+howto

<tich_> are they good methods of installing?

<tich_> lophyte, i keep wanting to install because i like the name and icon.

<tonyyarusso> All right folks, I've been gone three hours, how much do you think the system clock on the server is off by now?

<tonyyarusso> Place your bets.

<PFA> 484848484848484848 horsu

<PFA> horsu is a new unit of time

<PFA> invented by me

<tonyyarusso> Must be

<PFA> it means

<PFA> "however long your system clock is off by"

<PFA> and it is measured in base 484848484848484848

<tonyyarusso> ...that's not right

<tonyyarusso> Then the number you gave would be really really big

<tich_> i also would like to remove the damage i have done before reinstalling flash, the only thing to remove that i have found is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so, is there anything else?

<tonyyserver> offset 10113.719580 sec, or 2 hours 48 minutes

<Madpilot> tonyyarusso, have you set ntp up on the server?

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: No, I've been running it manually

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: It's off by that much after almost the same span of time. I ran ntpdate, went to choir, came back, and it was off by that.

<Madpilot> ouch. not cool. checked for known bugs?

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Not yet

<matjan> tich_, i don't think so

<Madpilot> It could also be a hardware issue - mobo BIOS battery going flat

<tich_> matjan, great. thanks.

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: pppoe_dude just suggested the same thing

<Madpilot> noticed that

<Madpilot> great minds swim in the same gutters

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Any way to check that? What kind of battery is that? Where can I get a new one? I just bought the computer, but it's used; should IBM be responsible?

<Madpilot> tonyyarusso, it's a tower? There will be a big flat battery somewhere on the mobo. ask at computer stores about getting a new one.

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Well, almost a tower. Horizontal profile, but same idea.

<Madpilot> close enough

<Madpilot> back in a bit

<tonyyarusso> I would think IBM should supply/pay for it

<Burgundavia> unlikely

<tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Why? I just bought it.

<Burgundavia> oh, ah

<tonyyarusso> I think I have a 3mo lim warranty on it - I'll see what that says

<Madpilot> tonyyarusso, is this one of the remanufactured ones you mentioned ages ago?

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: yes

<tonyyarusso> It sounds like they would. The machine "doesn't function as warranted"

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I have access to multimeters and other electronic testing equipment at school; where would I find out what this battery should be putting out so I can check it?

<Madpilot> it's probably written right on the batter

<Madpilot> battery, even

<tonyyarusso> Ah, okay.

<tonyyarusso> Time to open up 'duluth'.

<tonyyarusso> (btw, the clock advances about 4 seconds per minute)

<tonyyarusso> OH! This is why my system bell is going so long too, isn't it?!

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: It also takes a really long time to do things. For instance, it's still trying to shut down. Not sure if that tells us anything.

* Burgundavia loves how this channel is rocking

<tonyyarusso> Theoretically, I should be able to test whether this was a software or hardware issue by running a live CD from the version that worked...trying that.

<Madpilot> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html <-- an open celphone that runs GTK. cool

<aanderse> cellphone+gtk??

<aanderse> sweet!

<Burgundavia> too bad they didn't hack on maemo

<Burgundavia> but I imagine somebody will get it working on it

<Burgundavia> think I might just have to buy one

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: In a Live session the clock functions normally. Guess it's the Dapper updates after all.

<Madpilot> tonyyarusso, time to file bugs, then

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Yep

<tonyyarusso> Well, search them first

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Wait a minute...now it's running right again

<pppoe_dude> PFA, hi

<PFA> hi pppoe_dude

<tonyyarusso> Someone's got good news for you...

<pppoe_dude> PFA, how come you keep getting banned from -offtopic?

<pppoe_dude> ;)

<PFA> i can't remember how many times it's been

<pppoe_dude> lol

<PFA> the first time their story kept changing, but they eventually decided it was because i said "*cries and slits wrists*" or something

<PFA> and i don't remember for any of the other times

<pppoe_dude> oh i c.

<PFA> why do you ask

<pppoe_dude> PFA, just saw you getting unbanned from there just now.... was curious for reasons

<PFA> whuh?

<Madpilot> PFA, you're unbanned from -offtopic again

<PFA> :o wow! someone JUST told me in #ubuntu-ops that i would nevar get unbanned from there

<pppoe_dude> PFA, did you even know you were banned?

<pppoe_dude> :)

<PFA> yes, haha

<pppoe_dude> thats the beauty of inconsistency...

* pppoe_dude is tired of eating tofu

*** in_a_trance is now known as pppoe_dude

<tich> well i just discovered something interesting, firefox closes even with flash 7. weird...

<PFA> mylesbraithwaite: what does your nick mean

<mylesbraithwaite> my name?

<PFA> oic

<mylesbraithwaite> what dose oic mean>

<tonyyarusso> Link oink, but with less n, and in Gnome.

<PFA> ???

<PFA> lmfao

<PFA> mylesbraithwaite: "oic" means "oh i see"

<PFA> night

<Alan-D> Is somebody available to better understand a security access situation?

<aanderse> burgwork: congrats on gnome membership :)

<Burgwork> aanderse: thanks

<Burgwork> Alan-D: in what way?

<Alan-D> Burgwork: I settup a smb shared with the owner being a user and the group users.

<Alan-D> Burgwork: This was to permit the to create files and directories with taking direct owership

<Burgwork> right

<Alan-D> Burgwork: For a given directory within the main shared directory I would like to limit acces to a different group.

<Alan-D> Burgwork: So I changed the owner for that directory to the new owner and the new group.

<Alan-D> Burgwork: But the other users still have access to the restricted directory.

<Alan-D> Burgwork: I even changed the access rights to DRWX------

<Alan-D> Burgwork: Any Ideas?

<Alan-D> Burgwork: Would it be simple to create multiple shares?

<Burgwork> I know nothing about samba, sorry

<Burgwork> I work in an all Linux workplace

<Alan-D> Burgwork: One for each directory access?

<Alan-D> Burgwork: The situation in not that much different

<Burgwork> if you don't want people to read a folder, take the "world read" permission off

<Alan-D> Burgwork: If I were to setup a public directory, but would want to limit the acess to a given directory within the public directory, how would/could I go about it?

<Burgwork> great subdirs, like you suggested

<Alan-D> Burgwork: In the last statement foregt about samba, could this be done within a linux envir. only?

<Burgwork> yes

<Alan-D> Burgwork: Would I have to create a general group to contain the users and share the ownership with the root owner for the public directory and create a second group for the restricted directory?

<Burgwork> hmm, don't really know off the top of my head and sadly I am really busy right now

<Alan-D> Burgwork: Thanks anyway.

<rexbron> lophyte: ping

<lophyte> rexbron: pong

<mylesbraithwaite> hello

<lophyte> hey

<rexbron> lophyte: I need something to distract me from a very boring lecture

<bhearsum> http://youtube.com/watch?v=TbkMy6mHU1U

<bhearsum> weird al is good distraction

<lophyte> rexbron: lol

<rexbron> hmm, the wap in this lecture hall is getting swamped

<lophyte> rexbron: what's new?

<rexbron> lophyte: That was the 2nd time this month that my laptop has hardlocked on me

<rexbron> I am suprised

<lophyte> rexbron: I might be getting a lappy

<rexbron> cool

<rexbron> but damn, things have been loading slower and slower

<rexbron> and disk access is way more that it was earlier

<rexbron> lophyte: any sugestions

<lophyte> not off the top of my head... check what processes are running

<rexbron> nothing big

<rexbron> Xorg is taking up the most processor time

<rexbron> but what would cause extra disk access?

<rexbron> fragmentation (but ext3 is pretty good I thought)

<rexbron> yarh

<lophyte> shouldn't be fragmented

<rexbron> hmm, same with booting, used to be faster

<lophyte> probably because you have more apps starting up at boot time

<lophyte> things you've installed and such

<lophyte> rexbron: btw I got my ubuntu posters

<lophyte> selling them for $1.50 each

<rexbron> lophyte: great

<lophyte> you coming out on wednesday?

<rexbron> hmm, in kubuntu, where do they list all the programs that start up

<rexbron> lophyte: sorry, I have the concert

<lophyte> aw

<rexbron> ya

<rexbron> the concert is at 7, so unless the meeting is starting at 5, I cant make it

<rexbron> I would like some of those posters to place up on campus

<lophyte> I'm gonna be at the caffe friday night and saturday night

<bradley> i can't find the 'totem-xine-firefox-plugin' (using synaptic) does it exist in edgy?

<lophyte> totem-mozilla - Totem Mozilla plugin

<lophyte> ^ perhaps?

<bradley> they just made a general mozilla product plugin perhaps...

<bradley> lophyte, it's funny i didn't register your use of the word perhaps then i used it --it subliminally dropped into my mind :)

<bradley> it is a nice word.

<lophyte> lol

<aanderse> when i lived in toronto in the summer

<aanderse> i went to linux cafe one night

<aanderse> but it was closed :(

<aanderse> but there were a bunch of people in it

<aanderse> seemingly having a good time

<lophyte> probably staff

<aanderse> it was probably all of you!

<aanderse> so i cried and went home :(

<lophyte> where are you living now?

<aanderse> :p j/k

<aanderse> bah i'm back in london (ontario) for the next 6 months

<aanderse> finishing up my degree

<lophyte> ah.

<rexbron> lophyte: ping

<rexbron> nm

<lophyte> rexbron: pong

<rexbron> hey

<lophyte> how goes it?

<rexbron> I need to figure out why things like when switching between kmail et al is so slow

<lophyte> low RAM/CPU?

<rexbron> hmm, 1.6 ghz and 512mg

<rexbron> and little useage

<rexbron> I really want to set up a file server at home

<rexbron> but I need to find an old comp that a niebour does not want

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