| <pschulz01> Morning... | |
| *** yama_away is now known as yama | |
| <hantu> rawr | |
| <Hit3k> rowr | |
| <hantu> sup | |
| *** fild0 is now known as fildo | |
| <Hit3k> not much hantu you? | |
| <hantu> not much, preparing for finals | |
| <quail-laptop> afternoon all | |
| <hantu> ni hao | |
| <quail-laptop> did we all remember to put our clocks ahead 1 hour | |
| <ThePizzaKing> I did :D | |
| <hantu> yeah damnit. i lost an hour | |
| <ThePizzaKing> I remember last October no-one told me, so when I turned on the computer I thought it had made a mistake | |
| <quail-laptop> i have not put my video, watch or mobile ahead yet | |
| <quail-laptop> my computers are fine tho | |
| <hantu> i just found out yesterday about the time | |
| <hantu> luckily. | |
| <hantu> otherwise i might've missed the exam tomorrow | |
| <quail-laptop> oh | |
| <nrdb> Hi, I am thinking of making a PIC micro project, is there an open source PIC C compiler available | |
| <quail-laptop> i just been watching a doco on Birds of Prey | |
| <quail-laptop> was good viewing | |
| <siccness> Sounds good | |
| <siccness> does anyone know how to append to a file on the same line? | |
| *** fild0 is now known as fildo | |
| *** fild0 is now known as fildo | |
| <quail-laptop> siccness: ping | |
| <harrisony1> yo,has anyone here upgraded to edgy with out 1 prob if so can i know how :D | |
| <purserj> harrisony1: yes, I ran update-manager -c -d (I think that was it) and left it alone for a day to download an install the updates. Apart from having to move from the 386 kernel to the generic one to get the second core in the laptop working, I have had no problems so far | |
| <harrisony1> ok any sorry for the n00b question but what do you mean by "move from the 386 kernal to generic" | |
| <purserj> thats cool. Before I offend, how much do you about linux? | |
| <harrisony1> not Heaps but i am not afarid of the terminal :) | |
| <quail-laptop> harrisony1: have a read here >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: ping | |
| <purserj> quail-laptop: pong | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: can you have a proof read of this for me please | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5601AWLMi/HowTo | |
| <harrisony1> quail-laptop, i read that i just heard some horror stories on the forums and dont really wana bust my computer :D | |
| <purserj> quail-laptop: I'll have a flick through | |
| <quail-laptop> harrisony1: alot of that is cause people not search and read info first before jumping in head first | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: thanks mate | |
| <purserj> quail-laptop: Okay first note, I always find it best to recommend backing up any config files you're getting people to edit | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: yep | |
| <elkbuntu> purserj, you pinged? | |
| <purserj> elkbuntu: yar, I was wondering if you'd seen jono around lately | |
| <elkbuntu> yes, on friday. when were you looking? | |
| <purserj> yesterday, I wanted to touch base on an email I'd sent him | |
| <elkbuntu> he was afk much of the week for linuxworld london, and is often afk a fair bit on weekends | |
| <elkbuntu> ah ok. well i was not here at all yesterday | |
| <elkbuntu> only got back home less than an hour ago | |
| <purserj> cool I figured as much. I'll wait for Monday london time then | |
| <elkbuntu> yeah try again about 9pm | |
| <purserj> hmm well this is interesting, Xorg has hit 61% CPU usage | |
| <siccness> quail-laptop: pong | |
| <quail-laptop> hey siccness | |
| <siccness> hey | |
| <siccness> i purchased my first book today | |
| <quail-laptop> i needed you to proof read this for me again >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5601AWLMi/HowTo | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj was helping out but he had to leave cause think his X was playing up | |
| <quail-laptop> ah he back | |
| <purserj> yup | |
| <siccness> perfect | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: i have edited bit more now is this better >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5601AWLMi/HowTo | |
| <siccness> I love your work, you dont bullshit the reader | |
| <siccness> other how to's go on and on about pointless crap | |
| <siccness> yours are simple, straight to the point | |
| <purserj> yup | |
| <siccness> it's how a howto should be, the reader can read the other crap by researchin themselves | |
| <quail-laptop> yeah well i have been court with howtos that run around the roundabout few hundred times and then get to the point | |
| <siccness> yah | |
| <quail-laptop> yep | |
| <quail-laptop> with peoples input i am refining them lot more | |
| <siccness> but thats also the beauty of documentation (where they do bullshit you with crap like that). Which is usually why I prefer documentation (because they do explain every little thing) | |
| <siccness> but for how-tos, it should ALWAYS be to the point | |
| <quail-laptop> eg adding bit more info and not exspect every one knows what to do | |
| <quail-laptop> siccness: i just do my best | |
| <quail-laptop> and my written english not that good to rabbit on | |
| <siccness> Haha, mate, my english is no better ;) | |
| <quail-laptop> i have been told that i should put "why" i am doing things into the howtos | |
| <quail-laptop> like a background type thing | |
| <quail-laptop> but to me that is a howto that full of crap then | |
| <siccness> Indeed | |
| <purserj> Attach foot notes to each action, so that people can go them if they want to | |
| <siccness> Yeah, foot notes, or hover-text thingoes aren't such a bad idea. | |
| <siccness> Just as long as it doesn't clutter the layout | |
| <quail-laptop> yep | |
| <siccness> because if you have to explain the "cp" command, then you'll be there for a week and a half. | |
| <siccness> there's only so much info you can give for cp xorg.conf xorg.conf_backup or whatever | |
| <siccness> as it's essentially self-explanatory | |
| <quail-laptop> yeah | |
| <quail-laptop> only foot note i can add is "Google is your best friend" | |
| <quail-laptop> learn to abuse it | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <quail-laptop> but my howto for disabling the touchpad while typing, i think that will work on most laptops | |
| <quail-laptop> what is a good warning that i can add to the top of the page saying only use these howto's if you know what you are doing and i am not responsable for any damage these howto's my cause to your system | |
| <quail-laptop> or data lose etc | |
| <purserj> "Use at your own risk" | |
| <purserj> win 16 | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: how does my does that look >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5601AWLMi/HowTo | |
| *** han3 is now known as hantu | |
| <Phlosten> afternoon all | |
| *** fild0 is now known as fildo | |
| <pschulz01> Phlosten: arvo. | |
| <Phlosten> howdy pschulz01 | |
| <siccness> G'day folks. | |
| <pschulz01> Phlosten: I didn't win anything in the Software Freedom Day Competition | |
| <Phlosten> awww | |
| <pschulz01> Oh well.. | |
| <Jfrench> Hello all! Who knows stuff about twinview? I have only one monitor showing anything atm, and I would like both Functional. The second monitor supports a much lower res then the one im using now, does this have a impact? | |
| <pschulz01> Anyone know why a CNAME dns record should e eused rather than just another A record? | |
| <cafuego> Because I say so? ;-) | |
| <pschulz01> Jfrench: sorry.. I can't help. | |
| <Jfrench> No Problems :) any one have any idea? | |
| <andrew222> pschulz01: Hi Paul! Are you there | |
| <pschulz01> Hit3k: andrew222 | |
| * Hit3k twitches | |
| <pschulz01> I'll be back in a little while.. | |
| <andrew222> ok... | |
| <purserj> bloody hell there is a huge amount of smoke rising above the escarpment behind us | |
| <TheMuso> Fires? | |
| <TheMuso> Are those the fires near warragamba? | |
| <purserj> not sure | |
| <purserj> I'm looking at the RFS site now | |
| <purserj> I don't think its warrangamba | |
| <siccness> How close is it to you, purserj? | |
| <TheColonial> hey guys | |
| <Lowra> hmm | |
| <Lowra> i cant see people | |
| <siccness> right | |
| <pschulz01> Where is warragamba? | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Any houses out that way? | |
| <siccness> Warragamba is where the big damm is | |
| <siccness> http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/dsp_content.cfm?CAT_ID=684 | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Ta.. | |
| <siccness> I feel sorry for those blokes who gotta deal with bushfires. They get shitall recognition :| | |
| <pschulz01> Anyone here use MySpace? http://news.netcraft.com/ | |
| <TheMuso> MySpace is a piece of crap anyway IMO. | |
| <pschulz01> TheMuso: Looks like someone has managed to get a phishing page installed on their webserver.. | |
| <siccness> I had the worst chicken parma today | |
| <siccness> $12.50 | |
| <siccness> It was big, but just terrible. | |
| <siccness> and who puts the parma on top of a plate of chips? So stupid. | |
| <siccness> </daily-whinge> | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Where was the <daily-whinge>? You have unmatched tags! | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> good, ill contine | |
| <siccness> WP is full of idiots | |
| <pschulz01> WP? | |
| <siccness> whirlpool | |
| <pschulz01> Simon Hackett one of them? | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> never spoken to him | |
| <pschulz01> Owner of Internode/Agile | |
| <siccness> there was a thread on a news post about a mother stopping cpr to have a smoke, and someone replies "is why cigarettes are bad" | |
| <Phlosten> hellooo beautiful people | |
| <purserj> what? where? | |
| <Phlosten> oh, sorry, wrong channel | |
| <Phlosten> :D | |
| <pschulz01> Phlosten: speak for yourself... | |
| <Phlosten> :) | |
| <siccness> Up there cazaly, you're out there to win! | |
| <Tatey> siccness: Yes, I agree | |
| <Tatey> WP is nub++ and I generally avoid it | |
| <siccness> Heh yeah | |
| <siccness> I've got an addiction to it though | |
| <siccness> Usually to either make fun of someone | |
| <siccness> or something | |
| <ashugg> moo | |
| <siccness> Bahahha, this thread on the gentooforums in hilarious | |
| <siccness> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-234133.html | |
| <purserj> hmm so no one else has a duocore laptop do they | |
| <Fujitsu> purserj: Why? | |
| <purserj> cos I've got edgy running on my dell duocore laptop and I'm noticing Xorg keeps spiking usage under AIGXL/Beryl | |
| <Fujitsu> purserj: It's beryl... What can you expect? | |
| <purserj> I don't know thats why I'm asking | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: i have a core duo | |
| <purserj> you upgraded it to edgy? | |
| <Fujitsu> purserj: It has a habit of eating a lot of CPU. | |
| <purserj> Fujitsu: ah right, thats what I was looking for | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: yes i running edgy | |
| <quail-laptop> purserj: and i had np with beryl eating cpu cycles tho | |
| <purserj> hmmm | |
| <Fujitsu> It varies greatly. On some systems it will eat the entire CPU all the time, others it won't at all, etc. | |
| <Fujitsu> It is a strange beast. | |
| <purserj> yar, mine seems to kick in after a while, I then have to kill Xorg | |
| <quail-laptop> reason i don't use beryl anymore is cause it not very friendly with murrine and i have to write the them for emerald | |
| <quail-laptop> aiglx was alot better | |
| <Jfrench> Hello, who knows a fair bit about Twinview? I need some Help, both of my monitors work, but can i set them up as two seperate desktops not one long one? | |
| <quail-laptop> Jfrench: this might help you >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo | |
| <siccness> I'm not sure you can have it as two seperate desktops | |
| <siccness> I just thought it was either horizontal/vertical span and clone | |
| <adhoc> cafuego: you about? | |
| <Jfrench> I currntly have it as a Horizontal span, But its irritating me. Im used to having 2 seperate desktops | |
| <adhoc> cafuego: i'm getting a "size missmatch" error from the bcm43xx deb from your repo... | |
| * adhoc drags lucychili out by the scruff of ... um /// | |
| <quail-laptop> adhoc: naughty, and get a room | |
| <hantu> i reckon the new ml post should be mentioned in the meeting | |
| <quail-laptop> ml? | |
| <hantu> mailing list | |
| <quail-laptop> k | |
| <hantu> so .. | |
| <adhoc> quail-laptop: out to feed the four legs and make some tea | |
| <hantu> four legs? | |
| <quail-laptop> adhoc: k | |
| <hantu> what kind of human is that? | |
| <hantu> :P | |
| <adhoc> hantu: two canines | |
| <Phlosten> anyone played with edgy server? | |
| <adhoc> hantu: the four legged variety | |
| <adhoc> Phlosten: i cut the .iso to cd but haven't had the opportunity to tinker with it yey | |
| <Phlosten> just burning the iso now, working on using it for a gateway server | |
| <Phlosten> hopefully it installs on this pc, could never get 6.06 on it | |
| <hantu> oh tigers. | |
| <adhoc> hantu: tigers would be felines | |
| <Phlosten> wolves | |
| <adhoc> Phlosten: thats a lot closer =) | |
| <Phlosten> dingoes | |
| <adhoc> one is dingo like and one is wolf like | |
| <siccness> a dingo ate yo baby | |
| <adhoc> dude thats not funny | |
| <siccness> Tis a quote from Seinfeld. | |
| <siccness> Fool. | |
| <adhoc> you quoting A-Team at me now! | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| <Phlosten> what you talkin 'bout willis? | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| * siccness wonders why ff2 isnt showing up | |
| <Phlosten> cause i stole it | |
| <Phlosten> and replaced it with ie7 | |
| <siccness> Nah, that doesn't seem feasible | |
| <hantu> Dingoes ate my balls. | |
| <hantu> one of the band in buffy hah | |
| <hantu> :o | |
| <hantu> so regarding the new mailing post, about having an actual documentation to register as ubuntu member.. should we have that mentioned in the meeting? | |
| <Phlosten> a ubuntu-au member? | |
| <siccness> what new mailing post? | |
| <siccness> im gonna break this box soon | |
| * siccness dances | |
| * siccness smacks himself in the head with a baseball bat. How can I be so stupid. | |
| <praetorian> well.. | |
| <praetorian> should i answer that? | |
| <praetorian> ;-) | |
| <siccness> probably because of hitting head with baseball bat? :) | |
| <hantu> sigh. | |
| <hantu> Phlosten: yes. | |
| <Phlosten> there used to be sime something there | |
| <Phlosten> simple | |
| <siccness> I've been spending 3 days trying to emerge firefox | |
| <siccness> and I found out it was still masked | |
| * hantu points and laffs at siccness | |
| <siccness> yes my fault | |
| <siccness> but still | |
| <siccness> why is it still masked ;| | |
| * Phlosten tars and feathers siccness | |
| <purserj> siccness: there's apparantly a lot of bugs coming out on FF2 | |
| <siccness> yeah | |
| <siccness> i heard that too | |
| <siccness> but there was a shitload of bugs in the previous releases | |
| <siccness> so it doesn't bother me too much | |
| <siccness> but gentoo take ages | |
| <Phlosten> means lots of people using it and people that give a crap reporting them | |
| <siccness> lol yea | |
| <Phlosten> hurrah, my ubuntu server 6.10 install has succeeded | |
| <siccness> did you expect it to fail? | |
| <Phlosten> yes | |
| <Phlosten> ah, shit | |
| <Phlosten> now it is constantly rebooting | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> where's it rebooting? | |
| <Phlosten> right after grub, it says 'Starting Up..' and then reboots | |
| <siccness> ahh yea | |
| <TheMuso> siccness: Try booting in recovery mode, and see if you get any messages to point to whats happening | |
| <Phlosten> i am assuming that is directed at me | |
| <siccness> and by siccness you mean Phlosten | |
| <Phlosten> same deal | |
| <TheMuso> ah... yeah | |
| <TheMuso> Attention is mostly elsewhere. :) | |
| * Phlosten ponders | |
| <Phlosten> must be something in the kernel | |
| <siccness> it's a relatively common error, Phlosten | |
| <Phlosten> wondering what boot options may get it going | |
| <quail-laptop> Phlosten: boot with acpi disabled | |
| <Phlosten> acpi=off | |
| <Phlosten> ? | |
| <siccness> i thought it was boot priority | |
| <siccness> but yea acpi makes sense ;0 | |
| <Phlosten> nope | |
| <Phlosten> still broked | |
| <siccness> try going to bios | |
| <siccness> and make sure floppy disk isnt first | |
| <siccness> make it last infact | |
| <Phlosten> trying.. | |
| <Phlosten> nope | |
| <Phlosten> grrr | |
| <siccness> you got a grub boot floppy? | |
| <quail-laptop> Phlosten: have you tried recovery mode | |
| <Phlosten> quail, yes, no go there either :( | |
| * Phlosten gets an icecream and ponders some mor | |
| <hantu> morphine on icecream? o_O | |
| <Phlosten> heh, err no | |
| <Phlosten> a mini magnum | |
| <hantu> the minis are fun :D | |
| <hantu> mini drumsticks ftw! | |
| <siccness> nah | |
| <siccness> ice-creams blow | |
| <siccness> sundaes ftw : | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <hantu> ew sundaes. | |
| <hantu> softcones! | |
| <siccness> nah | |
| <hantu> in fact, hrm.. | |
| <siccness> i cant have softcones :( | |
| <hantu> why? :( | |
| <siccness> Because anything that can't be put to the side of my mouth hurts | |
| <hantu> ou :( | |
| <siccness> so basically, cant eat hamburgers/souvlakies | |
| <hantu> you're missing out ^^ | |
| <siccness> or rolls | |
| <siccness> sandwhiches are ok, when cut into triangles | |
| <quail-laptop> mmm vegitarian pizza with plenty of garlic | |
| <hantu> chocolate pizza of max brener! ;o | |
| <hantu> havent tried it, but looks delicious :o | |
| <siccness> quail-laptop: vegeterian pizza is terrible | |
| <hantu> nod :o | |
| <hantu> plenty of garlic, even worse. | |
| <siccness> a good pizza is a pizza with no "confliction" | |
| <siccness> you want everything flowing | |
| <siccness> so pizzas like "the lot" where they have both chicken and beef are terrible | |
| <siccness> egg/chicken == terrible idea. egg/beef = great idea. | |
| <hantu> san remo's meatlovers with egg is lovely. | |
| <hantu> :D | |
| <siccness> egg on a pizza can either be great, or terrible. | |
| <siccness> http://www.thesource.gov.au/involve/nyr/get_involved.asp <--everyone between 15-25, please do it (requested by kamping_kaiser) | |
| <Phlosten> hurrumph | |
| <Phlosten> 15 to 24 | |
| <Phlosten> hurrumph was about my borked 6.10 server | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <quail-laptop> that was yummy | |
| <siccness> I wanna know, has quail ever seen the rain :D | |
| <quail-laptop> huh? | |
| * DarkMageZ loves rain ^-^ | |
| <siccness> quail-laptop: from a song :) | |
| * quail-laptop loves thunderstorms | |
| <siccness> Shit yeah | |
| <siccness> thunderstorms are pimp | |
| * DarkMageZ agrees | |
| <TheMuso> quail-laptop: Where are you | |
| <quail-laptop> adelaide | |
| <siccness> Until they zap, bing-a-ding your computer :| | |
| <Phlosten> maybe its a graphics card issue | |
| <quail-laptop> Phlosten: it should not be | |
| <quail-laptop> cause it all console | |
| <Phlosten> i am thinking framebuffer | |
| <quail-laptop> unless you running a gui on the server | |
| <siccness> Phlosten: doubtfuk | |
| <siccness> *doubtful | |
| <Phlosten> ah, yes | |
| <Phlosten> server should be all text mode | |
| <siccness> Indeed. | |
| * Phlosten gets a big hammer | |
| * quail-laptop slaps Phlosten with some cli | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Phlosten> google not finding much | |
| <Phlosten> :| | |
| <quail-laptop> Phlosten: search launchpad | |
| <quail-laptop> it might be a bug | |
| <siccness> I'd hope not because it's been dealt with a million times. | |
| <siccness> and for it to be occuring again is just disappointing | |
| <quail-laptop> Phlosten: do you have a knoppix livecd there | |
| <Phlosten> i dont think so | |
| <Phlosten> *looks* | |
| <quail-laptop> Phlosten: boot the system up from a knoppix cd and mount the drive and have a read of the boot log | |
| <quail-laptop> it might give you some idea to what going on | |
| <Phlosten> i have a knoppix from nov 04 | |
| <siccness> here's what i suggest, Phlosten | |
| <siccness> Find out if it boots using a grub boot disk | |
| <Phlosten> think i will return to this another day | |
| <Phlosten> off to bed, night all | |
| <TheColonia1> evening all | |
| <TheColonia1> i have some fab news :D | |
| <TheColonia1> (for those who give a s***) :) | |
| <siccness> hey | |
| <TheColonia1> i took the plunge today and installed Edgy | |
| <TheColonia1> and with a bit of wrestling, i have it installed with ATi drivers working, ALSA working AND my wireless lan (which I'm currently on while talking to you). | |
| <TheColonia1> so ALL the problems I had before are now sorted :) | |
| * TheColonia1 is excited. | |
| <TheColonia1> that's wireless LAN with WPA-PSK | |
| <TheColonia1> I feel like I learned a lot in the process too which is always good. | |
| <TheColonia1> so how are you guys doing? | |
| <siccness> lol cool | |
| <DarkMageZ> TheColonia1, oh, just in time to play Frozen-Bubble 2.0 =D | |
| <siccness> im a little irritated ;) | |
| <Tatey> why for siccness? | |
| <siccness> Firefox2 is so damn slow it's not funny | |
| <Tatey> really? | |
| <Tatey> been great here | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, do you use firefox for much ipv6 stuff? | |
| <siccness> Not really. | |
| <elkbuntu> have you disabled ipv6? | |
| <siccness> im not sure thats why it slow | |
| <siccness> going through the menus is slow | |
| <elkbuntu> in firefoxes about:config, find network.dns.disableIPv6 and set it to true | |
| <elkbuntu> ah | |
| <elkbuntu> ok | |
| <elkbuntu> how much resource is it hogging? | |
| <siccness> about to find out | |
| <siccness> 5.0% of RAM | |
| <Tatey> siccness: checked out swiftfox? | |
| <siccness> Yeah I used that once before | |
| <Tatey> wait, if you're using Gentoo... it wouldn't matter | |
| <siccness> i might drop down to firefox 1.5* | |
| <Tatey> what sort of hardware do you have? | |
| <siccness> Opteron 165, 1024MB RAM | |
| <Tatey> should run pretty nicely on something like that | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <siccness> ../should/ being keyword. | |
| <siccness> how much RAM is it eating of yours? | |
| <elkbuntu> pray tell... has anyone around had contact with xice? | |
| <siccness> Not I, sorry. | |
| <Tatey> siccness: 55MB with 8 tabs | |
| <Tatey> 5.5% of my total RAM | |
| <siccness> so i got 5% with 1 window open | |
| <siccness> ok, time to burn the bastard | |
| <Tatey> want to know something funny? | |
| <Tatey> mine is still 55mb if I close all the tabs :P | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Tatey> 34MB now | |
| <Tatey> siccness: tbh, I don't really care how much RAM it uses | |
| <Tatey> I've got 1024MB, and I rarely use more than ~200MB | |
| <siccness> wtf, this is rooted. | |
| <siccness> the more tabs i open | |
| <siccness> the less it uses? | |
| <quail-laptop> brb, going to test my multihead | |
| <quail-laptop> sweet i got multihead running on my laptop :-) | |
| <lucychili> nice | |
| <cafuego> siccness: keep opening tabs until it uses negative ram | |
| <siccness> nah it stops, wont go below 4% | |
| <quail-laptop> multihead look whacked | |
| * quail-laptop going to write how to do this crap and reset my xorg.conf to normal | |
| * cafuego eyes the G450 and goes "looks whacked" ? | |
| <cafuego> It's better if you have two thin-bezel LCD screens | |
| <quail-laptop> hehe | |
| <quail-laptop> brb i have to restart X | |
| <quail-laptop> back | |
| <quail-laptop> laptop lcd + crt is whacked | |
| *** lucychili is now known as jhawtin | |
| *** jhawtin is now known as lucychili | |
| <TheColonial> hey lads. i have another question if someone wouldn't mind helping. | |
| <TheColonial> after installing Edgy, my boot times have actually increased hugely instead of reducing. i booted using recovery mode to see the output as the system booted and i noticed that twice, once for SATA2 and once for SATA4) it was timing out. (not sure what it was trying to do). | |
| <TheColonial> the message was something like this "ata2 : SATA Link down (SStatus 0) | |
| <TheColonial> any ideas as to what this might mean? | |
| <elkbuntu> TheColonial, ask again, thoreauputic might know | |
| <thoreauputic> what might /me know? | |
| <thoreauputic> probability is about 1000:1 against :) | |
| <elkbuntu> TheColonial> hey lads. i have another question if someone wouldn't mind helping. | |
| <elkbuntu> <TheColonial> after installing Edgy, my boot times have actually increased hugely instead of reducing. i booted using recovery mode to see the output as the system booted and i noticed that twice, once for SATA2 and once for SATA4) it was timing out. (not sure what it was trying to do). | |
| <elkbuntu> <TheColonial> the message was something like this "ata2 : SATA Link down (SStatus 0) | |
| <elkbuntu> <TheColonial> any ideas as to what this might mean? | |
| <thoreauputic> hmmm - no idea | |
| <thoreauputic> maybe a bug in upstart? ( assuming it worked OK on dapper ) | |
| <TheColonial> oh hi :) | |
| <TheColonial> sorry, was googling for answers ;) | |
| <siccness> sounds like a driver related issue | |
| <TheColonial> yeah this is a wierd one. i never had this issue with Dapper, but now i've updated to Edgy it's started doing it. | |
| <TheColonial> siccness: the wlan worked for about 5 mins before dying ;) so it's back to square 1. | |
| <TheColonial> what is upstart? | |
| <elkbuntu> the new init replacement | |
| <TheColonial> right. | |
| <TheColonial> interesting read -> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/1623244 | |
| <TheColonial> for a noob like moi ;) | |
| <TheColonial> thoreauputic: you may well be right. could be an issue in upstart... | |
| <TheColonial> any ideas on how to chase this up/log it as an issue or ask someone else about it? | |
| <thoreauputic> TheColonial: see if anyone has reported it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com ( launchpad) Search on "upstart" | |
| <TheColonial> thank you :) | |
| <siccness> TheColonial: You just can't catch a break, can you? | |
| <TheColonial> siccness: hehe.. tis all part of the learning process ;) | |
| <thoreauputic> the other possibility might be to ask on the ubuntu-users mailing list , with relevant output from dmesg and/or logs etc | |
| <TheColonial> and to be honest, i haven't had this much fun in ages... | |
| <siccness> I'd agree, but the fact is you've been put through a hell of a lot for a distribution that has the image of "user friendly" | |
| <TheColonial> i had to reboot into windows today.. it auto-updated IE7, took 15 mins to install a 28MB patch, then rebooted the machine, took about another 3 mins after login to get the system to respond. yuck! | |
| <siccness> If you're enjoying it though, good to hear :) | |
| <TheColonial> siccness: yeah mate, i know, but at the end of the day, i do have a good time getting this stuff to work. | |
| <thoreauputic> it seems edgy is edgier than I first thought - it doesn't seem that different, but under the surface it has some very basic changes | |
| <siccness> That's the feel of accomplishment, TheColonial :) | |
| <TheColonial> i'm a long term MS user, and Vista scared me to the point where i thought that Linux needed to be promoted to primary OS instead of secondary ;) | |
| <TheColonial> and i dont regret it! | |
| <TheColonial> in fact, i regret not doing it earlier | |
| <TheColonial> siccness: yes it is! :) | |
| <siccness> Yes, well I don't think MS have really thought-through VISTA that well. But that's just my 2 cents. | |
| <TheColonial> <plug type="shameless">In fact, you can read some of my thoughts on my blog at http://rant.blackapache.net if you're keen to see what I think about Vista and the move to Linux as a primary OS</plug> | |
| <siccness> Hahahaha | |
| <TheColonial> :) | |
| <siccness> I love your style :) | |
| <TheColonial> echo "Thanks mate" >> /home/siccness | |
| <TheColonial> ppfff.. that one was poor ;) | |
| <TheColonial> so yeah, despite the issues, i'm loving Ubuntu | |
| <TheColonial> and coz i wasn't a fan of gnome, i'm now using xubuntu | |
| <siccness> Who the hell sends a cake to a rival company congratulating them? | |
| <TheColonial> lol.. exactly! | |
| <siccness> Shit probably has poison in it | |
| <TheColonial> read the comments.. Dan sums it up ;) | |
| <thoreauputic> hmmmm.... I wasted a lot of bandwidth trying to optimise bittorrent here... ;) | |
| <TheColonial> hehe | |
| <siccness> TheColonial: Heh yeah | |
| <TheColonial> thoreauputic: mate, doesn't look like there's anything at all on the bug list about what i'm experiencing, but i can say that other people on other distros have had similar problems | |
| <siccness> Alright, here's a question. I have two mounts, 1 HDD goes to ~/data-a, 1 HDD goes to ~/data-b. anyway i can join them together as, say ~/data ? | |
| <thoreauputic> TheColonial: sorry I can't help - i just have common or garden non-sata drives here, and what I know about hardware would fit on a button cell battery | |
| <TheColonial> thoreauputic: no need to apologise me ol' mucka | |
| <thoreauputic> :) | |
| <TheColonial> siccness: are you talking as a single drive for both reading & writing? | |
| <siccness> well kind of | |
| <TheColonial> then basically you're saying you want to make it look like they're RAIDed in some fashion.. two disks as one. | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: I seem to recall mount has a "bind" option for this kind of thing? | |
| <siccness> Yes, I too thoughtso thoreauputic. But apparently I am wrong. | |
| <TheColonial> thoreauputic: i didn't think you could have two mounts on the same name. | |
| <siccness> the bind option exists, but it's not used in the context that I want. | |
| <thoreauputic> TheColonial: well, not simultaneously , no | |
| <TheColonial> if two drives were mounted to the same location, how would the OS know where to store the data? | |
| <thoreauputic> TheColonial: correct | |
| <TheColonial> thoreauputic: isn't that what siccness is trying to do? have them simultaneously? | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <siccness> but I'da thought the OS would have some way of dealing with this | |
| <TheColonial> can't think of any other way than RAID to be honest. | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: I guess you could mount them as separate subdirs of "data" | |
| <hantu> hrm, aight, g'night. | |
| <siccness> yea but that blows, thoreauputic | |
| <siccness> Nigyht hantu | |
| <hantu> first paper tomorrow | |
| <hantu> :o | |
| <TheColonial> hantu: good luck mate | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: heh, yes not what you had in mind I know | |
| <hantu> =) | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <hantu> thanks, and ciao. | |
| <siccness> good luck hantu | |
| <siccness> apparently you can do it with unionfs | |
| <TheColonial> that sounds like a lot of work for little gain to me :) | |
| <siccness> Indeed | |
| <TheColonial> i think i might have a read of the upstart source | |
| <siccness> bah, im off to read a book then bed. Night guys/girl(s) | |
| <TheColonial> night mate | |
| <TheColonial> i'm outta here too. have a good one lads. | |
| <TheColonial> ciao | |
| *** thoreauputic is now known as gnureaupeutic | |
| *** gnureaupeutic is now known as thoreauputic | |
| <siccness> Back again :) | |
| <quail-laptop> B00 | |
| <cafuego> blargh | |
| <adhoc> *yawn* | |
| <greebo> adhoc, indeed | |
| * greebo strongly dislikes early morning meetings, but when the rest of a committee is in the UK, US and South Africa, it makes it hard :) | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <adhoc> greebo: sure does .... | |
| <adhoc> i had to be in at work at 6am to catch the meetings at the end of the day in chicago ... everyday | |
| <greebo> erk | |
| <Hit3k> oh shit.. its monday? | |
| <purserj> apparantly | |
| <Hit3k> and its only 5 degrees outside :( | |
| <Hit3k> ohno wait.. 7 | |
| <greebo> heh :) | |
| <Hit3k> Sigh... I guess I better get ready to leave for school have a great day everyone I know I wont :( | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| <ajmitch> morning Phlosten | |
| <hantu> moin | |
| <purserj> are there any plans to enable automatic network printer detection in Ubuntu? | |
| <purserj> never mind, found it | |
| <frederick85> purserj: what package was it, i'd like to use it | |
| <purserj> Well I found the scan for network printers in the printer config, but no luck so far | |
| <frederick85> maybe the other computer has a firewall against linux | |
| <frederick85> or might not work with windows computers | |
| <purserj> nope, its a gentoo box | |
| <frederick85> i see | |
| <frederick85> did you set up a print server | |
| <adhoc_> pschulz01: you about? | |
| <purserj> frederick85: yes, but I'm in the middle of emerging a new version of it right now, this might help with the non-detection | |
| <frederick85> purserj: sometimes my laziness wishes the software could do this all for me | |
| <hantu> moo | |
| <MatthewV> hantu, you been eating too much grass? | |
| <MatthewV> or apt-get moo ing too much.. | |
| <hantu> neither. | |
| <hantu> morning. | |
| <hantu> :) | |
| <hantu> hey matt, have you seen the recent mailing list post about the lack of documentation to proceed to become ubuntu-au's member? | |
| <MatthewV> hantu, yep.. just responded too ;) | |
| <MatthewV> hantu, I think the biggest problem is actually a lack of documentation as regards to signing the CoC and to registering a nickname on freenode, etc.. rather than the actual process | |
| <MatthewV> bbl.. | |
| <hantu> mm. | |
| <hantu> that should be the exact problem.:o | |
| <MatthewV> back.. what was that hantu? | |
| <hantu> a proper doc on CoC/freenode etc | |
| <MatthewV> hantu, hmm... the CoC, yes... but freenode has its own docs.. would they be sufficient: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml | |
| <hantu> mmm. | |
| <MatthewV> and if they are sufficient, which page(s) should link to the freenode docs | |
| <hantu> southpark is crackin | |
| <MatthewV> morning bimberi | |
| <bimberi> hi MatthewV | |
| <MatthewV> bimberi, hows thing? | |
| <MatthewV> *things? | |
| <bimberi> smokey :( | |
| <purserj> yeah same here | |
| <purserj> I've got some good shots from yesterday afternoon, I'll be putting them up later on | |
| <bimberi> purserj: i guess yours would be from the Warrangamba fire, not sure about here | |
| <MatthewV> btw, anyone got release party photos up? | |
| <purserj> Not warrangamba I think, there were a couple of fires to the south west of us | |
| <bimberi> ah | |
| <bimberi> MatthewV: not that i know of | |
| <MatthewV> :( | |
| <purserj> Right thats printing sorted | |
| <MatthewV> hantu, starting on a CoC howto now :) | |
| <hantu> :) |