<irvin> good morning strong

<irvin> i'm downloading edgy now

<str0ng> katatapos ko lang e burn :) heeheh

<franz> goodmorning? :-)

<franz> may gising po ba para sa isang newbie question? :-)

* irvin yawns

<franz> hello irvin :-) try ko lang itanong to (no-brainer siguro sa inyo to, pero newbie lang ako :-) ).......how much space do you usually allocate to root, /home, /opt and /usr/local ? :-)

<gnubee> it depends

<gnubee> what will you use it for?

<franz> medyo naguguluhan pa kasi ako kung san iniInstall ni ubuntu yung mga software e :-) ...i use it for the ff: office, pdf reader, browser, e-mail client, media player, eclipse, svn :-)

<gnubee> then just create / and put everything in there :)

<gnubee> 2 partitions: swap and / should be good

<gnubee> with servers it is a different story

<franz> gnubee: hehehe :)) that's my current setup :-) but what if i reinstall my OS ? :-)

<irvin> the deb files are placed in /var/cache/apt, the more apps you install the more space you need

<irvin> but you can always clean it up after you have installed the app

<franz> irvin: but i don't know where ubuntu stores those apt. in /opt, in /usr/bin, in /usr/local ?

<irvin> in /usr

<franz> irvin: ohh...., so my apps are all installed in /usr ? ...what about /opt? what's installed in there?

<irvin> franz, if you need to use it as a desktop just create a swap, root, and home

<irvin> franz, man hier

<irvin> it is explained there

<irvin> /opt This directory should contain add-on packages that contain

<irvin> static files.

<franz> irvin: with that setup, if i reinstall my OS, would my apps still be there? :-)

<irvin> franz, no

<franz> irvin: yup, i've browsed through FHS, but what are these "add-on" packages? how is it differentiated from those installed in /usr/bin ? (i noticed my svn is in /usr/bin) :-)

<irvin> packages that you install using apt are installed in their proper directory (/usr/bin, etc..)

<irvin> the /opt directory is not actually necessary

<franz> irvin: hhmm.... i see, i see... so basically the usuall apps are installed in /usr ? :-)

<irvin> add-on packages may be packages that you install from source... whenever i install an app that is not in the ubuntu repos, i set configure the setup to install to /opt which is symlinked to /home/irvin/opt

<irvin> franz, yes

<franz> hhmm...another question: is /opt just a symlink to /home/<user>/opt ?

<irvin> i prefer to use /opt for apps i install from source so it doesn't mess up my system

<irvin> in the default install /opt is not symlinked to ~/opt

<franz> hhmmm... :-? so as a recap, apps are usually installed in /usr, and as a practice, it is advisable to install compiled apps (from source) in /opt?

<irvin> think of it this way, windows app goes to Program Files and other folders that you wouldn't know... sometimes there are self-contained apps the can install on a single directory, i.e. c:\myapp

<irvin> with everything in it, including dlls, etc.. etc..

<irvin> those self-contained apps are like the add-on packages that you install in /opt

<irvin> a very good example of this is xampp

<franz> irvin: hmm.....

* franz digesting

<irvin> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html

<franz> irvin: im not familiar with xampp :)

<irvin> if you read through the instructions in xampp, you'll that you can install it by using tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.4a.tar.gz -C /opt

<irvin> and uninstall by simply rm -rf /opt/lampp

<franz> still reading through it :)

<irvin> xampp is a self-contained apache, mysql server

<franz> ahh... i see :-) by self contained apps, do you mean it has no dependencies? :-)

<franz> (or rather the dependencies are packaged with that app)

<irvin> the dependencies are installed in the same directory as the app

<franz> i see, so if i want to centralize the locations of my apps, i install them in /opt ?

<irvin> only if you manually install from source

<franz> irvin: cool :-)

<franz> one last question, then i think im good....where does ubuntu install the dependencies? :-)

<irvin> all is answered in the man page

<irvin> man hier

<irvin> i assume you know how to open a terminal ;)

<franz> yup :-) hehehe :-D i've seen man hier as well :-)

<franz> thanks a bunch irvin ! :-)

<irvin> np

<Ahmuck> /usr/local/app

<Ahmuck> i normally allocate space to /usr/local/app and /home. they are normally the only two partitions i save. i have moved from distro to distro this way and preseverd much of my information

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<str0ng> gud morning all :)

<str0ng> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3.06GHz] mem[Physical : 241MB, 28.0% free] disk[Total : 72.68GB, 92.30% Free] video[Intel Corporation Gigabit Ethernet Controller] sound[]

<Jucato> morning str0ng!!

<str0ng> heheeh im on my edgy

<str0ng> na optimized talaga.. bumilis ang bootup

<Jucato> heheh :)

<str0ng> ganda...

<Jucato> Sysinfo for 'ark': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDSempron2200+ at 1500 MHz (3003 bogomips), , RAM: 492/1011MB, 122 proc's, 40.10min up

<str0ng> wow.. 1 gig ang ram

<Jucato> grabe! 3Ghz :)

<Jucato> lol

<str0ng> transfer ko muna yung ram ko :) hehe

<Jucato> lol :)

<Jucato> nagsimula ako sa 256MB RAM, tapos 640MB (512+128), tapos ngayon 1GB na! :)

<Jucato> evening mangz74!

<str0ng> hehe..

<mangz74> jucato!

<mangz74> :)

<str0ng> ddr yan?

<Jucato> yesh

<Jucato> :)

<Jucato> mangz74: EST ka po ba or CST?

<str0ng> ah ok..

<mangz74> est

<mangz74> kala ko na format ko ang backup drive ko

* mangz74 is happy happy!

<Jucato> waah...

<Jucato> muntik na yun :)

<mangz74> yeah

<str0ng> brb muna..

<mangz74> ok

* Jucato is happy with his customized Edgy...

<irvin> bootup lang ba bumilis sa edgy?

<mangz74> jucato...may paparinig ako sayo na mp3

<Jucato> mangz74: paano?

<mangz74> dcc

<Jucato> irvin: mabilis lahat generally. ewan ko lang po kung dahil sa upstart or KDE 3.5.5 or sa new kernel... or a combination of all

<mangz74> dito sa chat

<Jucato> hehe

<mangz74> hahaha

<mangz74> tanggap mo request?

<Jucato> teka... ayaw ata?

<Jucato> opo accept ko po

<Jucato> failed...

<Jucato> hm... port 8001 gamit ko sa pag connect...

<Jucato> baka kaya ayaw?

<mangz74> ayaw

<mangz74> :(

<str0ng> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3.06GHz] mem[Physical : 748MB, 80.6% free] disk[Total : 72.68GB, 92.30% Free] video[Intel Corporation Gigabit Ethernet Controller] sound[]

<str0ng> ayan! hanggang dyan nalang yung RAM ko :(

<Jucato> malaki na rin :)

<Jucato> mangz74: waah :(

<str0ng> yeah.. ok na rin yan :)

<str0ng> mas lalong bumilis heheeh

<Jucato> hehehe

<Jucato> mangz74: bakt po kaya ayaw?

<str0ng> brb..

<mangz74> jucato:di ko rin alam

<mangz74> hehehe

<mangz74> try na lang natin later

<Jucato> otey :)

* mangz74 and son listening to oasis

<mangz74> lol

<Jucato> hehehe

<mangz74> training maging rocker

<Jucato> hahaha

<janm> anyone here running xen on a machine with only 256MB of RAM in it?

<mangz74> jucato:buti na lang di ko naformat yung drive...andoon pala years worth of mp3 collection ko

<Jucato> waah.. gawin mo na lang read-only muna :)

<Jucato> kaso pag reformat nga pala

<Jucato> lol nvm

<pyc> hello

<pyc> walang tao :(

<Jucato> meron :)

<Jucato> good am!

<pyc> ay naku salamat naman, may kunting tanong lang ako fenyx :)

<Jucato> (sana masagot ko...)

<pyc> nasa pinas ba to http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com

<Jucato> pyc: wala.

<Jucato> redirect lang yan to uk. afaik

<pyc> ah ok :)

<Jucato> ay hindi uk.

<pyc> bakit parang medyo mabagal?

<Jucato> hm.. hindi ko alam kung san sya nagreredirect... :P

<Jucato> switch ka ng ibang mirror kung gusto mo

<pyc> ah ok, pwede ba yun ?

<Jucato> pwde naman

<pyc> Jucato , edgy ka na?

<mangz74> pyc:pwede yan...

<Jucato> yes

<Jucato> Edgy, Jucato-style :)

<mangz74> recommended mirror nyo lang yan

<pyc> i see :)

<mangz74> ano binago mo jucato?

<Jucato> walang kubuntu-desktop, walang kubuntu-default-settings :P

<pyc> kiba-dock? ok yun :D

<Jucato> bale, minimal install + X + kde-core + kdm

<Jucato> tapos nagdagdag na lang ako ng mga gusto kong packages

<Jucato> I only 644 packages installed, compared to 1012 packages ng default Kubuntu install :P

<pyc> tyak mabilis yan :)

<Jucato> yeah. boot is around 15-20 seconds with USplash na.

<Jucato> mabilis din performance at KDE loading

<pyc> hehehe, bakit medyo marami din ang nagka problema?

<Jucato> sa pag upgrade?

<pyc> siguro, at klase daw nang kernel, imbis na i386 bakit daw generic?

<Jucato> yep. -generic

<Jucato> optimized for all archi. 386 to k7

<pyc> ah i see

<irvin> irvin@anaya:~$ uname -r

<irvin> 2.6.15-27-server

<irvin> that's what my xubuntu uses

<Jucato> hehe :)

<pyc> wow, lumulipad ba? napakagaan daw sabi nila, pag xubuntu at binawasan mo pa nang default components

<irvin> Your troops inflict 94,220,666 damage on the enemy!

<irvin> The enemy sustains 97 casualties!

<irvin> egogeo's forces counter-attack and inflict 209,943,421 damage on your army!

<irvin> Your army sustains 34 casualties!

<irvin> 16 General Soldiers were killed in action.

<irvin> 18 Attack Specialists were killed in action

<irvin> damn

<pyc> irvin, ano yan, ET?

<irvin> www.kingsofchaos.com

<pyc> how does one play it? flash base ba to?

<pyc> im still registering :)

<mangz74> ano tung jollibee scandal!

<mangz74> hahaha

<Jucato> O_O

<irvin> pyc, text-base

<pyc> ah ok

<pyc> san ba makikita ang jollibee scandal, wala na yata sa youtube?

<mangz74> meron pa

<mangz74> kapapanood ko lang

<mangz74> tanggal na siguro sa trabaho ang mga nasa loob ng mascot

<Jucato> hehe

<irvin> lol

<Jucato> 18 seconds lang?

<Jucato> lol

<mangz74> sana may video rin si ronald mcdonald

<mangz74> hahaha

<mangz74> maikli lang

<mangz74> hahaha

<Jucato> nakaka-disappoint...

<mangz74> si ronald macdonald at si wendy

<mangz74> hahaha

<Jucato> heheh

<pyc> any link pls, googled it, but can't play it

<mangz74> wait...

<mangz74> close ko na kasi eh

<Jucato> hindi pwede sa youtube.. sign-in or join up :P

* irvin raises finger

<Jucato> lol

<Jucato> which finger?

<mangz74> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AxWLLywmA

<mangz74> 19 secs

<mangz74> 1 sec longer

<mangz74> hahaha

<Jucato> hahah

<pyc> 19 sec of fun, lmao

<Jucato> rofl

<mangz74> hehehe

<Jucato> pero parang maling dulo ni jollibee ang ginamit nya...

<mangz74> hahaha

<pyc> oo nga

<mangz74> dapat ba patalikod?

<Jucato> mas malaki ung nasa likuran nya kaysa sa harapan di ba?

<mangz74> hahahaha

<Jucato> :P

<mangz74> dapat masave to for posterity

<mangz74> !

<mangz74> malakas ang kapit ng jollibee sa youtube ah

<mangz74> andami na flagged down nila

<Jucato> lol

<Jucato> oo nga eh

<mangz74> siguro ang mga IT people nila walang ginawa ngayon kundi magbantay sa youtube at sa iba pang sites

<mangz74> LOL

<mangz74> sang tulog na lang...!!!

<mangz74> jollibee na naman

<Jucato> lol

<pyc> bbl :)

<mangz74> jucato:ano mp3 tag editor ng kde

<Jucato> um... amarok?

<Jucato> :)

<mangz74> i need to account my mp3 files...

<Jucato> sorry hindi ko po alam eh....

<Jucato> I haven't yet gotten into those tagging stuff

<mangz74> paano ko kaya bibilangin ang total # of mp3s ko

<mangz74> lol

<Jucato> Ctrl+A tapos status bar? :)

<mangz74> di eh...

<Jucato> :(

<mangz74> folder->artist->album->songs

<Jucato> ah I meant sa konqueror... :(

<mangz74> so..sa isang mp3 folder may maraming folders..ng mga artist na may lamang maraming album na may lamang maraming sons

<mangz74> pwede ba yun?

<Jucato> aaah.. :(

<Jucato> lunch time.. going away :)

<Jucato> almost midnight na dyan di ba?

<Jucato> /away muna po :)

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<daysleeper_ed> ummm... hi there

<daysleeper_ed> been a while

<irvin> hey daysleeper_ed, how are you?

<daysleeper_ed> hey, irvin, doing well.... been busy offline tho

<daysleeper_ed> irvin, can u do me a favor? can u look at planet for a while?

<daysleeper_ed> somethin's wrong from my end (meant :http://ubuntu-ph.org/planet/)

<daysleeper_ed> all I'm seeing are my previous posts

<Jucato> kuya daysleeper_ed, it's because your all your feeds got sent all at the same time

<Jucato> (just received the feeds a while ago)

<daysleeper_ed> crud

<daysleeper_ed> i hate feedburner

<Jucato> kuya did your blog account upgrade to Blogger Beta?

<daysleeper_ed> yes, i did...how'd u know?

<daysleeper_ed> lemme guess?

<daysleeper_ed> its a known issue?

<Jucato> yes :D

<daysleeper_ed> argh!!

<daysleeper_ed> how do i orrect this?

<daysleeper_ed> correct*

<Jucato> once lang po nangyayari yun.

<Jucato> after the upgrade. tapos ok na after that

<Jucato> lots of Planets have been bombarded by that issue :)

<daysleeper_ed> :-[

<daysleeper_ed> dyahe

<daysleeper_ed> ngayon ko lang nalaman

<Jucato> :)

<Terminus> afternoon. =)

<Jucato> good afternoon kuya Terminus

<Terminus> just woke up...

<Jucato> sarap ba ng tulog?

<Terminus> i guess i got worn down a lot more than i expected.

<Jucato> sa paglilinis?

<Terminus> oo. hahaha

<Terminus> hindi

<student> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

<rjian> waaaaaaaaaaa

<rjian> |[student]|

<Jucato> hehe good pm student rjian!

<rjian> ello kuya jucato

<Jucato> :P

<student> heya rjian

<student> i received an email from foss@work

<Jucato> good afternoon po kuya jerome! :)

<Jucato> student: magtago ka na :P

<student> mwahahaha

<student> yeah ...

<student> =)

<student> psst rjian

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<jsgotangco> hello

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*** jsgotangco changes topic to " Edgy rocks. End of Story. So when is the release party? Ask zakame."

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<rjian> waaaaaaaa

<rjian> kuya jsgotangco

<jsgotangco> hey there

<rjian> wow how are you jsgotangco?

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<jsgotangco> rjian: pretty busy lately but catching up

<rjian> hehehe.. are you going to foss@work?

<jsgotangco> can't say, haven't received any invite or what

<rjian> ha... maam yolynne na me will be going..

<irvin> foos@work?

<jsgotangco> rjian: good for you

<jsgotangco> irvin: iosn thing

<irvin> when is that?

<jsgotangco> http://www.apdip.net/news/fossatwork

<rjian> |[irvin]|-=> on November 12- 15 at heritage Hotel

<jsgotangco> what script are you using its irritating

<rjian> just download this l10n (Lﮩ ver2.4)

<jsgotangco> doh, did you digest what i just said, i dont want that script

<rjian> wokay

<steffylove> =)

<steffylove> yeah baby!!!

<rjian> hmmm edgy kubuntu

* mangz74 is listening to Ender Will Save Us All by Dashboard Confessional on Summer's Kiss EP [Amarok]

<mangz74> opps...sorry didn't mean to do that

<steffylove> its ok its ok :D

<steffylove> mwahahaha

<Jucato> no it's not :P

<mangz74> jucato: u using konversation?

<steffylove> hehehe

<mangz74> Uptime: 3 hours and 49 minutes

<mangz74> Sysinfo for 'magdalo': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDAthlon at 1050 MHz (2103 bogomips), , RAM: 985/1011MB, 108 proc's, 3.49h up

<Jucato> yes

<mangz74> tumahimik ulit

<jsgotangco> boo!

<mangz74> ay takot ako

<irvin> hehe

<Jucato> teka hindi pa halloween ah? :P

<mangz74> hahaha

<irvin> later guys

<mangz74> makapaghugas na nga ng plato..

<mangz74> tigas ako dito sa bahay!

<Jucato> heheh

<Terminus> gah... mixed up the ip address of the print server again. >_<

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* jsgotangco starts grabbing beryl

<Jucato> wb mangz74 again :P

<mangz74> :P

<mangz74> logout uli

<mangz74> sorry fishy is going on with my computer

<strong> hello..

<strong> pano ko paliitin yung resolution ko nang edgy?

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<strong> hello may tao bha?

* irvin yawns

<Jucato> walang taong baha

<strong> bat di ako pwede maka change nang resolution kong yung HP 7500 17" na monitor gagamitin ko

<strong> pero pag yung 14" lang.. ok naman

<strong> im using edgy

<strong> anyone encountered this problem before?

<irvin> ilagay mo na lang sa xorg.conf

<strong> ang ano irvin ?

<strong> tapos ko na nilagay sa xorg.conf ko.. ayaw pa rin :(

<irvin> hmm.. the same driver?

<strong> yep

<janm> stron: try reconfiguring xorg

<janm> *strong

<strong> janm, ok.. ill try.. after i upgrade

<str0ng> ayan! ok na

<str0ng> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3.06GHz] mem[Physical : 748MB, 79.6% free] disk[Total : 71.25GB, 92.20% Free] video[Intel Corporation Gigabit Ethernet Controller] sound[]

<str0ng> hehehe..

<str0ng> bilis.. optimized :)

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<zakame> hi a

<zakame> ll

<str0ng> :)

* zakame is on release-party-planning mode

<irvin> hey zakame

<irvin> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43961

<Jucato> zakame: kelan po?

<irvin> are you experiencing this?

<zakame> Jucato: two weeks from now, hopefully

<Jucato> oooh

<Jucato> san po gaganapin? (sana makasama ako!!)

<zakame> Jucato: we still need a venue and a time though

<Jucato> ah

<zakame> irvin: currently, naah

<irvin> zakame, are you running on dapper or edgy?

<zakame> irvin: Dapper... I mostly hibernate anyway so I don't really know if this hits me

<zakame> but I've never really had that poweroff problem, except when ipw3945 freezes on the rarest occasion

<zakame> or when I hibernate while swap is too full

<irvin> this is an intermittent problem

<irvin> sometimes it powers off, sometimes it doesn't

<irvin> what's the advantage of acpi over apm?

<zakame> could be a kernel bug

<irvin> zakame, it is a kernel bug

<zakame> that its more modern than apm?

<irvin> how about performance?

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<nocti> http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats.htm

<Jucato> hi nocti!

<Jucato> wb pala

<nocti> hey Jucz, just lurking ;)

<Jucato> nocti: ang cute!!!

<nocti> heh

* Jucato loves cats

* nocti have 2 ascats

* Jucato *had* 1... *sob*

<nocti> don't worry those 2 don't think they're mine anyway so...

<zakame> did it cat < /dev/null > previous_cat?

<Jucato> lol

<nocti> heh zak

* Jucato bookmarks

<Jucato> poor cat in the shower :)

<nocti> :)

<Jucato> "I'm in your PC... stealing your *internets*"

<Jucato> lol

<zakame> lol

<nocti> baliw gumawa nyan

<nocti> hanep sa mga hirit ung mga pusa

<Jucato> "I made you a cookie... but I *eated* it"....

<Jucato> naalala ko tuloy si Eddie Guerrero.. :(

<nocti> http://www.kungfuscience.org/site.asp

<nocti> gotta go

<nocti> bye guys

<Jucato> hehe bye!

<nocti> have fun Jucato zakame :)

<Jucato> wow another cat :)

<zakame> yo pusakat

<zakame> wow loks like robinsonsmalls WiFi got a boost, I'm getting a 1Mbps pipeline

<Jucato> :)

<Jucato> hm... bluetooth != wifi right?

<zakame> right

<zakame> I'm at the mall now so no need for smart-3g atm ;)

<Jucato> heheh sensya na. first time lang magka bluetooth-capable device... so hindi ko alam kung ano-ano nagagawa nito :P

<zakame> bluetooth is fairly simple enough to use... you just have to `pair' it with another device, such as another phone or a PC, and the two can communicate to each other via services that are available

<Jucato> ah

<zakame> using a 3g phone as a modem via bluetooth makes use of a DUN (dial up connection) service; there are also services for file exchange and chat, among other things

<Jucato> ooh :)

<zakame> another nifty one is using the messaging servie, allowing you to use your PC to send SMS/MMS via it

<zakame> bbl

<pusakat> hee

<pusakat> i want to buy an old Atari 800xl

<pusakat> but it won't run Linux.

<pusakat> so i want to buy either an Amiga or an Atari ST.

<pusakat> :P

* pusakat laughs.

<pusakat> heya jsg... howdy

<Jucato> evening kuya jerome, eric :)

<pusakat> hi Jucato

<jsgotangco> hello

<pusakat> what's new Jucato?

<jsgotangco> pusakat: eto scummvm junkie lately

* pusakat is tempted to get broadband next year, but he needs to get P12,000 from a racket someplace.

<Jucato> whoa

<Jucato> 12,000?

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<jsgotangco> pusakat: sus 1 week work mo lang yan eh

<pusakat> what's a fairly decent broadband provider?

<jsgotangco> bayantel is ok but its sucky tonight

<jsgotangco> its fairly slow today

<jsgotangco> i dunno why

* str0ng wow.. lalong bumilis yata PC ko

<Terminus> pusakat: ok ako sa pldt. =)

<Terminus> pusakat: i've heard ETPI being suggested here if you have the cash. =)

<Jucato> pldt....

<jsgotangco> etpi hehe

<Terminus> well, it's been months and i'm still running full. =)

<jsgotangco> hehe

<pusakat> jsgotangco, 1 week work only gets me less than 1/4 of that!!!

<jsgotangco> youre kidding me

<jsgotangco> that's like my tax for a month

<pusakat> we have ETPI as our upstream at UPM... used to be okay... i don't know if it's just our new account manager that sucks, but i'm not happy with their service to UPM now.

<pusakat> jsgotangco, i kid you not!!!

<pusakat> my SG is pretty low... i don't have a college degree, so there's this glass ceiling.

<pusakat> you know how it is in government.

<jsgotangco> sucks

<pusakat> sucks to be me. hehe

<pusakat> :P

<jsgotangco> well my wife has a graduate degree and a career executive officer in gov't and yet her salary grade sucks

<pusakat> jsgotangco, government doesn't offer competitive salaries anyway... it's only the "stability" most people are after.

<jsgotangco> my wife would rather be off working private

<pusakat> or in my case, the academic environment is just my cup of tea.

<jsgotangco> i earn way more than her despite her academic background

<pusakat> then why doesn't she work in private?

<jsgotangco> because she have worked for more than 10 years already in gov't and moving to private will only shrink her already growing retirement fund

<jsgotangco> she works in a gocc though, so her rate is not really that bad

<jsgotangco> compared to say a position in deped or something

<pusakat> oh

<pusakat> it's better then... gocc pala eh... mas-mataas generally ang pay doon.

<jsgotangco> yeah

<jsgotangco> any my salary at abs isn't so bad either so nakaka ipon ng konti

<jsgotangco> brb

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<Ahmuck> Jucato: edgy does will not use bash scripts ?

<Jucato> Ahmuck: I don't know...

<pusakat> dekoy, dude...

<Jucato> morning dekoy!

<eradicus> *

<eradicus> hi everyone

<pusakat> peek-a-boo

<Jucato> ehehe :)

<mangz74> jucato!

<Jucato> morning kuya mangz74!

<mangz74> hahaha

<Jucato> :)

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<Jucato> kuya mangz74! matutulog na po ako

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<pc22> yo Terminus

<Terminus> yo pc22 =)

<Terminus> delayed yung reply. was stuck in my browser. hehe

<Terminus> pc22: wassup? =)

<pc22> nothing

<pc22> just checking paano ako magwowork as CCR

<Terminus> CCR?

<pc22> virtual assistant ba

<pc22> tech support online

<Terminus> oh...

<Terminus> i'm used to the term CSR eh. hehehe

<pc22> ahh me alam ka?

<Terminus> nothing comes to mind as of the moment.

<pc22> saan si student?

<pc22> heheheh

<Terminus> meron mga voice setups at home yata.

<Terminus> ewan ko. hehehe

<Terminus> the mod_perl docs in ubuntu are next to useless. 3 years out of date na. i'm building my own na lang.

<pc22> wiki?

<pc22> online?

<Terminus> well, there's online but i want a local copy. hehehe

<pc22> tyaga mo

<pc22> eh

<pc22> kulit ni stud no? hehehehhe

<Terminus> hahaha

<pc22> kaaliw

<Terminus> hmmm... maybe i can package this and send the update.

<pc22> heeheheh

<pc22> wala kang nightlife?

<Terminus> meron naman.

<pc22> heheheh

<Terminus> just wasn't in the mood to go out this weekend.

<Terminus> had a nice time last night though. =)

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