<sensei> Anyone else got problems with mplayer plug-in buffering to 99% and then freeze there ?
<brasko> hi
<brasko> I just installed xfce for the first time with xubuntu
<brasko> I'd like to know how to map keyboard shortcuts
<brasko> I'd like to open a terminal with Ctrl-Alt-d
<brasko> is this possible?
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<sensei> brasko: Menu -> Settings -> Something ;)
<brasko> there are a few other funny things. The backspace key doesn't work.
<brasko> in the terminal
<brasko> and for some reason, I can't open a visual program from the terminal
<brasko> but I can from the GUI
<brasko> any ideas?
<brasko> actually, sorry that was a screen issue I guess
<sensei> Sounds like it
<brasko> I guess screen is breaking both of those issues for some reason
<brasko> for some reason, Ctrl-Alt-d minimizes all the windows
<brasko> is this supposed to happen?
<sensei> You should be able to open X programs in screen
<sensei> Are you switching user in the screen process?
<brasko> yes, I'll try to figure that out at a later time.
<sensei> And yes
<brasko> no I'm not though
<sensei> Oddness
<jelly> Where can I find the default menu in xubuntu, one with all the installed apps?
<brasko> if you hit Ctrl-Alt-d, do all the windows minimize?
<sensei> No, I use KDE
<sensei> But yeah, that's supposed to happe
<sensei> n
<sensei> jelly: /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
<jelly> sensei: do I have to add it manually to the panel?
<sensei> jelly: Hm no
<jelly> sensei: I have "Applications" menu by default. It differs a bit from Xfce's menu in Debian -- most notably, there's no "Debian" submenu with all the installed apps
<sensei> Well.. you didn't quite install debian, now did you? ;)
<sensei> Make sure you upgrade and use xfce4-menueditor to add your applications
<jelly> sensei: well, I'd expect ubuntu to add menu entries for installed apps somewhere...
<jelly> sensei: eg. there's no simple way to start xterm, aterm or mrxvt from the menu.
<sensei> Now I may be very wrong now, but I suspect that's up to the package creator to decide which menus to add to, as far as I know there's no mechanism in apt(itude) or dpkg to add stuff to any kind of menu
<sensei> Then add that if you wish :) An xubuntu install comes with a shitload of software, having all of them in the menu would be silly.. And since I suspect Terminal already is there, it makes even less sense
<jelly> sensei: hmm. In debian, there's a menu common to all wm's and DE's and it usually contains apps, some desktop/screensaaver settings and Xshells submenus
<jelly> sensei: the apps in particular contains all the apps installed.
<sensei> There is a Debian-menu in KDE at least
<jelly> sensei: yes, that one.
<sensei> But for some reason, not in xfce.. so start adding I guess :)
<jelly> sensei: it seems to be missing in xfce.
<jelly> who knows, maybe it was added after the ubuntu took the sid snapshot.
<jelly> hmm, Language Support tries to invoke nonexisting /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector
<jelly> scratch that, it's exists now(?)
<lostatc> I have a p2 with 128 meg of ram will Xubuntu run okay?
<lostatc> Hmm
<jelly> lostatc: i've just installed on a P3 with 128MB and it runs acceptably well.
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<jester45> !edgy
<ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
<JKnife> !edgy+1
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<JKnife> !ubuntu+1
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<JKnife> !ubuntu+2
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<jester45> thats a channel
<jester45> !schedule
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<jester45> !jester45
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<JKnife> !ubotu
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<jester45> allknowing my ass
<JKnife> !Ubugtu
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<jester45> he
<jester45> xbot = xbox bot
<jester45> tricky
<pdc_foo> !xorg.conf
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<jester45> !xorg
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<starsky-hutchy> jester45, thanks
<jester45> ^commands
<Jest_xbot> jester45: Error: "commands" is not a valid command.
<jester45> ^command
<Jest_xbot> jester45: Error: "command" is not a valid command.
<jester45> ^help
<Jest_xbot> jester45: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
<jester45> ^help command
<Jest_xbot> jester45: Error: There is no command "command".
<jester45> ^help message
<Jest_xbot> jester45: Error: There is no command "message".
<yarddog> !botabuse
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<starsky-hutchy> !matrix
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<starsky-hutchy> is xfce faster than icewm ?
<pdc_foo> !xfce
<ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
<Jobberwacky> no
<ron_o> xfce probably isn't faster than icewm.
<ron_o> xfce is pretty large, but smaller than gnome and kde.
<ron_o> I estimate that it needs 256MB of ram to run like it should w/ other gui's running.
<ron_o> 192MB minimum, imho.
<Eroick> hey, im installing xubuntu
<Eroick> but I have low ram
<Eroick> its runnin in low memory mode
<Eroick> is this bad
<User_linux> how do I install via audio drivers????
<User_linux> how do I install via audio drivers????
<ej> hey I just upgraded xubuntu
<ej> to 6.10
<ej> and x wont work
<ej> some packages are held back
<ej> is there a way to force them to be installed?
<ej> can any1 help?
<ellioTb> what up
<sbalneav> Hello! I'm trying to install Xubuntu on a blue iMac. (A G3 I beleive). Installation proceeds as normal, hard drive gets partitioned, and it begins the install, but at about 6%, I get a "Failed to run chroot mount -t proc proc /proc"
<sbalneav> Anyone seen this before?
<ellioTb> hrmm, no sorry
<crimsun> don't believe I have. does it only occur with the 1018 xubuntu daily on cdimage?
<sbalneav> Hm, let me check the image I downloaded.
<sbalneav> It's the beta release. Downloaded this eveing.
<crimsun> could you rsync to the 1018 on cdimage?
<crimsun> a few people have had similar problems with older images; don't remember offhand if the symptoms are spot-on
<sbalneav> Got a command line for the rsync?
<crimsun> alternate or desktop?
<sbalneav> Alternate
<sbalneav> The mac's only got 168 meg. :)
<crimsun> rsync -vPz rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/*powerpc.iso .
<sbalneav> Perfect! Thanks muchly!
<crimsun> np :)
<tictacaddict> I can't seem to get the xfce compositor working
<tictacaddict> I added the line Option "Composite" "Enable" to the Extensions section
<tictacaddict> I seem to remember that kind of magically doing the trick
<tictacaddict> but not today
<tictacaddict> (in xorg.conf I mean)
<TheSheep> tictacaddict: it should work
<tictacaddict> thing is, it isn't.
<tictacaddict> um.
<TheSheep> tictacaddict: you can try killall xfwm4; xfwm4 --compositior=on
<TheSheep> compositor
<TheSheep> sorry
<tictacaddict> nope
<tictacaddict> didn't do the trick
<tictacaddict> I wonder if I'm missing something obvious
<tictacaddict> I kind of hope I am
<TheSheep> look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log for hints
<tictacaddict> (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
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<Tashi> hi, I search a app for automatically theme switching
<bdgraue> Tashi: what do you mean with "automatically"?
<Tashi> I answer you in the another channel..
<TheSheep> %)
<xubu> how to take screenshot without clicking on the camera icon>
<romana> i use gkrellm snapshot;)
<TheSheep> xubu: there is a bunch of command-line tools too
<TheSheep> xubu: you can even bind them to a key
<TheSheep> xubu: imagemagick has 'import', there is also scrap
<xubu> i used scrot
<xubu> thanks
<TheSheep> scrot
<TheSheep> yeah, not scrap
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<Zeqfreed> can anybody recommend me a serverless chat for local network? friendly, colorful interface and ability to run on windows are required
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<PuMpErNiCkLe> Zeqfreed: Mayeb something like http://serverless.qarchive.org/
<PuMpErNiCkLe> s/Mayeb/Maybe/
<Zeqfreed> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks. i'll have a look
<Zeqfreed> VypressChat is good. but there's no unix-versions for recent protocol with utf-8 support
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<goober1010> I saw ubuntu went RC1 - does this apply to xubuntu?
<TheSheep> goober1010: I guess so
<goober1010> ok, will be a week or so when the released version will be out, correct? I guess I should wait.
<liwi> hi. how to manage wine shortcuts in Applications->Wine?
<TheSheep> manage?
<liwi> delete one shortcut
<bdgraue> TheSheep: you are using beryl and aiglx too, right?
<TheSheep> bdgraue: no, beryl with nvidia
<bdgraue> TheSheep: ok, today i got the new 0.1.1 beryl
<bdgraue> and that does npt work
<bdgraue> not
<bdgraue> no beryl-splash
<bdgraue> its falling back to xfwm4 every time
<TheSheep> bdgraue: I'm at work now, so I can't check it
<bdgraue> TheSheep: ok, sry
<TheSheep> bdgraue: I will see when I come home in 3 hours
<bdgraue> TheSheep: any idea, where i can ask, is there a beryl-irc-channel?
<TheSheep> ubuntu-glx
<bdgraue> ok, thx, will try it there
<TheSheep> err
<TheSheep> #ubuntu-xgl
<TheSheep> L:)
<Mattias> strange, beryl works fine on my machine
<Mattias> but i compiled it myself from an overlay
<goober1010> beryl works with xbuntu?
<TheSheep> goober1010: sure
<TheSheep> goober1010: it's just a window manager, after all
<ZeroCool> thought I would ask... how much faster is xubuntu over kubuntu
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: depends on what you do and on what machine
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: thunar starts almost immediatelly, for example
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: while firefox is the same
<ZeroCool> well, using a AMD64 bit laptop with 4000+ processor and X600 video card with 1GB of Ram
<ZeroCool> it would seem that KDE environment in Kubuntu is not as fast as in Gentoo linux
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: possible
<ZeroCool> Have heard that xubuntu is a start of a new environment, saving on resources...
<ZeroCool> while, offering more advancements... in application
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<TheSheep> ZeroCool: it's definitely much lighter than kde or gnome
<ZeroCool> but, will it surpass them
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: while having the most important features of gnome
<ZeroCool> k
<ZeroCool> KDE seems more like the WINDOWS envo, which can use allot of resources..
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: surpass -- I don't think so. It's directed to different audience
<ZeroCool> which is
<ZeroCool> myself looking for a more unified linux (works all together) as one..
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: try gnome
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: it's the most unified one
<ZeroCool> ?
<ZeroCool> don't like evolutions at all.
<ZeroCool> you can't install it without it
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: why not?
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: you can uninstall it
<ZeroCool> well, when I install 6.0.6.1 ubuntu, it was install by default
<ZeroCool> really, read somewhere, in a forum about problems..
<ZeroCool> something about a database backend.. index or sorts..
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: honest, I've done it. yu only need to leave the libraries
<ZeroCool> that gnome uses
<TheSheep> besides, what's the problem, you don't need to use it, you can even remove it from the menu
<ZeroCool> so, just go into synaptic package installer, and select remove..
<ZeroCool> that should take care of it
<ZeroCool> I like kmail allot..
<goober1010> thesheep: are there instuctions for doing this? should I wait until edgy eft?
<TheSheep> goober1010: in edgy it's nothing special, on dapper you need to install the xgl and add a session for the gdm
<ZeroCool> thesheep: the email clients are far and few for gnome..
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: Thunderbird, Sylpheed, Mozilla suite, Seamonkey suite...
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: besides, who uses a GUI mail client?
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: those who can use text-mode clients directly on the servers, those who can't use www interfaces...
<goober1010> thesheep: so if I wait for edgy, I can get the 3d desktop installed pretty easily? Cool. Will it work for xubuntu?
<ZeroCool> umm, well I have used kmail ( like very much ) thunderbird too buggy, and forget seamonkey..
<ZeroCool> okay, tell me more about www interfaces..
<ZeroCool> I do get allot of attachments, from clients, that I need to review, adjust and resend quickly.
<TheSheep> goober1010: yes
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: so basically you complain that there is no kmail for gnome? ;)
<ZeroCool> well, its not just that... I like the way KDE thinks, right click search google via text string..
<ZeroCool> and what about KDE 4
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: so you are just used to it -- switching to *anything* will be hard
<ZeroCool> I guess you can call it work logic
<ZeroCool> point click select action do
<TheSheep> gnome has it totally different
<ZeroCool> update remove resend
<ZeroCool> kinda
<TheSheep> well, I use mutt and I'm happy with it
<TheSheep> I can interrupt reading or writing email at any time, go to work, log in, bring back the screen and continue
<ZeroCool> ya, heard of that, and mh
<ZeroCool> but you can you display graphic inline
<TheSheep> it's for e-mail, not for graphics or web browsing
<ZeroCool> but, today, things have change... its multimedia email
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: I have a rule in my procmail for such e-mails
<TheSheep> "save in /dev/null"
<ZeroCool> how many application together does it take to complete your email solution..
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: let me count the ways ;)
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: about 20-30
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: why do you ask? :3
<ZeroCool> well, its that unified question again..
<ZeroCool> less is more
<TheSheep> the good think is that I can replace any of them with a different one
<TheSheep> thing
<ZeroCool> procmail sendmail
<TheSheep> it's the unix philosophy -- make a program that does one thing good
<TheSheep> and then join it with other programs to make more complicated things
<ZeroCool> what is the linux philosophy ?
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: there is?
<ZeroCool> "it just works"
<TheSheep> "sometimes"
<ZeroCool> <grin>
<TheSheep> "where do you want to go to go to go to go..."
<catalytic> has anyone here tried enlightenment as a windows manager?
<ZeroCool> don't know.. but ubuntu is on the mark..
<ZeroCool> hoping it will stay ahead of the game
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: I think it's more like "tell me when something doesn't work, instead of hiding it and trying to resolve it automatically"
<ZeroCool> true,
<ZeroCool> however, with all the computer hardware types, that would not be easy.
<TheSheep> that's why the new usplash worries me
<ZeroCool> hmm
<TheSheep> it just shows progress bar, no info about what's going on
<ZeroCool> so, you don't know if something got loaded..
<TheSheep> "don't worry, the System will take care of you" ;)
<ZeroCool> maybe a status window system check that pop up after booted to desktop with green lights for loaded, and red lights for not loaded.
<TheSheep> ZeroCool: why not just the good old messages?
<ZeroCool> lights are more digitally correct
<ZeroCool> as of today standards..
<ZeroCool> oops did I say that..
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<TheSheep> ZeroCool: what if the lights break?
<ZeroCool> well, you need to use a virtual screw driver... AND... part 2 friday
<bodycoach2> Hello everyone. Any specific topic at the moment?
<catalytic> what are the default flags when un-tarring something?
<catalytic> -xvvzf ?
<TheSheep> catalytic: without the '-'
<TheSheep> catalytic: and you use 'z' only if it's .tar.gz
<TheSheep> catalytic: if it's just .tar, then you skip it
<TheSheep> catalytic: and if it's .tar.bz2 then you use 'j' instead
<catalytic> its a .gz
<catalytic> ok
<TheSheep> and one 'v' is enough
<TheSheep> actually you can skip the 'v' if you don't want to see the files listed
<catalytic> ive found a script that apparently sets up a default menu for enlightenment
<catalytic> i installed it
<catalytic> but when i start an enlightenment session, the desktop loads, but there are no menus, apps, etc
<catalytic> I downloaded the tar.gz file from this address
<catalytic> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131470&package_id=144231&release_id=372460
<TheSheep> catalytic: maybe you need to run them, as with panels, dekstop, etc. in xfce?
<catalytic> ok
<catalytic> but i dont even get a shell to start editing anything
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<slow-motion> hallo
<PuMpErNiCkLe> re
<catalytic> #e
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<mac`> So... I have a problem with Xubuntu being very jerky.
<mac`> If I hold down a key in a textarea, the character output has constant jerks, something like 1-2 seconds apart.
<mac`> The same happens with moving the mouse.
<PuMpErNiCkLe> Check a CPU monitor for spikes in CPU usage.
<PuMpErNiCkLe> That's the most probable cause.
<mac`> What software would I use for that? top doesn't say anything interesting (too low time resolution I'd think)
<mac`> (Oh, and I'm very new to Ubuntu and haven't used Linux-based OSes much anyway)
<PuMpErNiCkLe> There's a panel applet that shows a cpu usage graph and you can configure its update interval.
<mac`> Okay
<mac`> the panel applet doesn't display anything out-of-the-ordinary.
<mac`> This should be worth mentioning... I made a small app in trying to find out the cause for this.
<mac`> http://haikz.org/test.c
<mac`> It counts time way slower than it should.
<mac`> I got about 53 seconds in a minute on this box.
<mac`> Another box here running at half the CPU frequency and memory (that's 400mhz and 128MB) does count to 60 fine (and it isn't jerky).
<mac`> I used the alternate install disc on it, though
<TooTallJones> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
<TooTallJones> Major opcode: 147
<TooTallJones> Minor opcode: 3
<TooTallJones> Resource id: 0x0
<TooTallJones> what's that?
<mac`> I just ran it (test.c) again. 52 seconds in a minute
<mac`> Actually, whatever is causing the jerkiness in this system is related to small bumps in CPU usage.
<mac`> But they don't seem to be anything that could perioidically "overwhelm" the system to cause jerkiness.
<TooTallJones> has anyone successfully run a cedega game fullscreen and had their keyboard work with cedega on a xubuntu install?
<TooTallJones> mine just will not respond in fullscreen for games
<TooTallJones> when I had installed from an ubuntu cd and was using gnome it worked fine.
<TooTallJones> So I downloaded gnome wm last night, but no change. So i'm assuming it's the xubuntu install itself
<TheSheep> hmm... QuinnStorm's birthday...
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<Hostile> why would a bunch of Xorg stuff be held back (I'm on edgy) ?
<slow-motion> n8
<TooTallJones> ** (gedit:7296): CRITICAL **: gedit_plugin_update_ui: assertion `GEDIT_IS_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed what am I missing here?
<TooTallJones> stills seems to work, but errors are always whack
<PuMpErNiCkLe> I haven't noticed any significant issues because of those errors.
<PuMpErNiCkLe> In fact, I haven't noticed any issues.
<sensei> TooTallJones: There's a lot of errors like that around.. usually OK to ignore really
<TooTallJones> yeah I haven't had any issues with it just wondering if anyone knew how to remove it
<TooTallJones> thanks guys
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