<chaddy> had to click the linky there^, thought he was after a shillelagh

* GazzaK yawns

<popey> \o/ .oO( It's FRIIIIIIIIIII-DAAAAAAAAAAAAY! )

<popey> ( )

<popey> |'|

<GazzaK> woo yay

<X3N> \0/

<X3N> (^^)

<X3N> |'|

<GazzaK> brrrr, i'm so cold

<popey> I'M BRIAN BLESSED!

<LoudMouthMan> NO YOUR NOT .. IM BRIAN BLESSED.....

<LoudMouthMan> HEHEH thats what we should put on the crew t-shirts.

<LoudMouthMan> At this morningd BNI meeting I made I made a visitor jump and shriek as i called the meeting to order with my usual parade ground loudness! arf arf

*** LoudMouthMan is now known as loudmouthLUNCH

<selinuxium> hi all

<selinuxium> is the ubuntu meet only on the wednesday, my boss has moved my visit to the thursday...

<jono> hey selinuxium

<selinuxium> hi jono

<jono> selinuxium, yes just wednesday right now

<selinuxium> Damn Damn Damn!

<jono> if people want to organise a thurs meet, go ahead :)

<selinuxium> Bit short notice! I think it woulb be me, myself and I attending...

<selinuxium> The whole point for me going up there was to go to the Ubuntu meet. But work have moved my days around. Not sure I want to go that much now!

<jono> heh

<selinuxium> Thursday

<selinuxium> Any takers?

<selinuxium> :)

<selinuxium> jono: have you seen the french local team website. We need somethign like that! http://ubuntu-fr.org/

<jono> yeah it rocks doesnt it :)

<jono> well if someone wants to do it :)

<jono> loudmouthLUNCH, by the way dude, could you work on an Approval Application - lets get the UK team approved

<loudmouthLUNCH> jono .. okay ... just as soon as I move this new BNI member from win98 to xubuntu !

*** loudmouthLUNCH is now known as loudmouthMAN

<jono> :)

<schwuk> popey: ping

<popey> schwuk: pong

<schwuk> popey: are you happy to sort out some crew t-shirts for next week?

<popey> eek

<popey> with what on them?

<schwuk> that's a no

<schwuk> the offical logo

<popey> how many?

<popey> what colour?

<schwuk> loudmouthMAN: ^^

<popey> official logo on front?

<schwuk> yes

<schwuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Logo

<popey> and you want the word "crew" on it somewhere?

<GazzaK> crew would be best on each arm???

<popey> and do you have both the word "crew" and the logo in nice scalable formats?

<popey> the logo should be simplified, less text

<popey> the transfer process is better with big simple logos, not fiddly ones with lots of parts to it

<schwuk> Wasn't bothered about it saying crew. SVG for the logo is linked from that page I gave you

<schwuk> popey: we've had approval from Ubuntu to use that logo - anything different will need re-approval.

<popey> it might be better to go for screen printing then rather than digital transfer print

<popey> I'll email it to them and see what they say

<popey> how many are we talking about?

<popey> what background colour?

<loudmouthMAN> popey how man is equal to members arriving for stand setup and removal ..and any one else who knows us

<popey> 5, 10, 20?

<loudmouthMAN> i dunno .. its on the wiki ...

<loudmouthMAN> thats the catch phrase for this group " its on the wiki!@

<popey> hmm

<popey> I don't think that's a valid answer

<popey> there's the number of people who have said they will come and help man the stand

<popey> then there's the number of people who will want to buy a t-shirt

<popey> those to numbers may not be the same

<popey> schwuk: do you want the logo on one breast or across the front of the T-shirt as big as it will go?

<popey> i.e. A4 landscape

<schwuk> popey: I'd say for people helping only - people can buy yht polo shirts

<popey> i don't understand?

<schwuk> popey: I'd say as big as we can

<popey> people can buy polo shirts but we are giving t-shirts to those listed on the wiki?

<schwuk> It's a crew shirt - i.e. for people operating the stand. The polo shirts are for buyig

<popey> right

<schwuk> exactly

<schwuk> we got there!

<popey> ok, and who is paying for that?

<schwuk> loudmouthMAN: ^^

<loudmouthMAN> yes Schwuk ?

<schwuk> I'm happy to pay for mine, and contribute to yours (for arranging them)

<loudmouthMAN> and I'll pay but id like some costs back!

<popey> and who pays for the other 8?

<popey> or 10 or watever

<loudmouthMAN> good question ..maybe we should ask everyone to commit and then we do it then ?

<popey> might be somewhat late in the day for that

<loudmouthMAN> well i picked up the Polos today though.

<popey> when did you order them though?

<loudmouthMAN> oh sorry .. im not meaning it like that popey.

<loudmouthMAN> I was just saying .. we have got them .. at least....

<popey> ok

<popey> sent the logo to them, I'm not confident they'll be able to do it, it's a bit busy

<popey> the logo, not them

<loudmouthMAN> I asked Rohan if he could do it for Monday but hes Swamped...

<loudmouthMAN> but that was me asking just in case we were concerned...

<loudmouthMAN> Popey .. i can donate through paypal to meet some costs.. but again it would be nice to recover those costs <grin>

<popey> it's not a problem, I just wanted this stuff talked about *before* I go buy them

<popey> rather than the assumption that one person will pick up the tab

<loudmouthMAN> indeed...

<popey> might be worth asking Stuart Parkington if he can do them?

<popey> he runs nerd.ws

<loudmouthMAN> then again whats life without a few risks eh <grin>

<popey> a geek t-shirt company

<loudmouthMAN> darn i cant see his number on the wiki

<popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StuartParkington

<popey> email

<loudmouthMAN> yeah I can do that but a phone call would be quicker.

<loudmouthMAN> but ill do that anyway

<popey> hahaha

<popey> a bloke here asked a great question

<popey> "So, generally is Windows better or Aix better"

<popey> (this was asked in the context of running big server systems)

<popey> one guy said "put it this way, I've never heard an AIX person say 'dang! I knew we should have used windows'"

<loudmouthMAN> thats because he would have said "poot" . those AIX guys dont like to swear.

<stelis> Hello?

<popey> hello stelis

<stelis> Hi

<stelis> I was interested in joining up

<popey> Welcome, consider yourself a member.

<stelis> Well, that was easy :)

<popey> Good isn't it? :)

<stelis> I've just read the Wiki page

<popey> \o/

<popey> you're winning friends by the minute here!

<stelis> So I know about the mailing list

<stelis> And I'm going to be around LinuxWorld

<popey> this just gets better and better

<stelis> So I guess I could give you a hand if needs be

<popey> you planning to give us all 56" tellys too?

<popey> or is that asking a little too much?

<stelis> Hmm

<popey> :)

<stelis> I mostly give bug reports

<stelis> And I'm poor

<stelis> And I'm a Yorkshire

<stelis> Which is probably my biggest fault

<stelis> That I'd admit to...

<popey> hehe

<popey> one of the busiest UK Linux User Groups is the West Yorkshire one

<stelis> So don't expect too any free rounds

*** loudmouthMAN is now known as loudmouthINSTALL

<stelis> Didn't know that

* popey farts on loudmouthINSTALL and hi nick changes

<stelis> I'm living in Wales ATM

<popey> that'll get you kicked from some places you know loudmouthINSTALL

<loudmouthINSTALL> why ? im installing ubuntu ..

<popey> http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html

<loudmouthINSTALL> oic .. well xchat doesnt seem to honour all aways well here

<loudmouthINSTALL> ask schwuk

<stelis> Consider that bookmarked :)

<popey> stelis: you coming up to london for the meet?

<popey> :)

<popey> i just google for "away messages suck" - always finds it :)

<stelis> I'm think about it

<stelis> I've been to Linuxworld before, and it wasn't brilliant

<popey> :(

<popey> I have never been

<stelis> But that would make it worthwhile

<stelis> There's two halves...

<stelis> The big corporate vendors

<stelis> And the .ORG pavillion

<stelis> Where the interesting people are

<popey> \o/

<popey> us!

<stelis> I'm not interesting :)

<popey> don't worry, it'll rub off from us to you :)

<stelis> Handing out free stuff may improve my interestingness

<popey> hahah

<popey> nice try sonny

<stelis> :)

<popey> jono: ping

<popey> (some people hate that on irc too)

<stelis> I meant that I might seem more interesting if I was handing people Edgy CDs

<popey> ahhh

<popey> don't think we'll have any/many of them

<jono> popey, pong!

<popey> \o/

<popey> got a mo for a prv?

<loudmouthINSTALL> some people were on IRC before most were investigating the contents of their Your New Computer envelope and have seen it all and heard it all and realise that there are few things which should really allow yo uto get hacked off.

<popey> ok, so based on that we should throw netiquette out the window?

<popey> and let people tlk SMS spk on IRC instead of using English?

<popey> it's friday, so that means...

<popey> Curry night!

<stelis> Fish and chips for me :)

<stelis> The chippie is three doors down

<stelis> Location, location, location

<stelis> WRT LinuxWorld, what the next thing to do?

<popey> :)

<popey> get a ticket from the site?

<stelis> I've got a Laptop with Vmware

<stelis> I signed up on-line

<popey> cool

<stelis> VMs for Edgy and Edubuntu

<popey> edit the wiki page, put your name down

<stelis> OK.

* popey runs edgy \o/

<popey> on 3 machines

<popey> love it

<stelis> The latter is my new favourite thing

<stelis> I'm running Dapper on the machine itself

<X3N> hmm edgy is scheduled to be released on the 2nd day of the expo

<stelis> X3N: I was wondering about that

<popey> all the machines I will bring run edgy

<popey> so people can have a look

<X3N> maybe a dist-upgrade fest should happen at the day

<stelis> That sounds like a good idea

<stelis> I may not have Internet access for a few days before

<X3N> I know there will be a lot of people at the expo with ubuntu laptops

<X3N> me being one of them, though i'm there on wednessday not thursday

<X3N> you could do the dist-upgrading as long as you had one of every arch edgy cd

<popey> I am probably going to bring along my mirror on a usb disk

<popey> which has every arch on it

<popey> so you could plug that in and dist-upgrade from it :)

<X3N> that would be good

<stelis> Actually I've got a spare external hard drive

<popey> the whole repository is 30GB :)

<popey> for main+universe+multiverse

<stelis> Hmm, it's only 20Gb

<popey> you won't need the source packages though I guess

<popey> which would cut it down somewhat

<stelis> There's another one, but it needs a power socket.

<X3N> I'm not sure if i'm going to upgrade my desktop until feisty fawn

<popey> haha

<popey> wuss :)

<stelis> The 20 Gb is a portable

<X3N> rather a lot to go wrong, and there are going to be more worthwhile changes in feisty

<popey> I've had very few problems with edgy

<stelis> X3N: FWIW, I've been amazed that Upstart doesn't seem to break anything at all

<stelis> Is there a script or convenient application for building mirrors on disk?

<popey> apt-mirror

<stelis> Cheers

<schwuk> popey: I thought nerd.ws was sparkes venture...

<popey> yeah

<popey> that's him

<schwuk> popey: I thought sparkes = Steven Parkes, not Stuart Parkington.

<popey> hmm

<popey> yeah, maybe you're right :)

<schwuk> I can see where you'd get confused...

<popey> I am easily confused

*** loudmouthINSTALL is now known as loudmouthman

<loudmouthman> and you should be luck im not using Winks!

<ubotu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): TheFridge

<loudmouthman> i am not sure if its offtopic .. but Im guessing this is in TonyTigers remit http://www.maidenbower.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6756&start=20

<loudmouthman> my local council are planning on using linux some how in local educatin authorities...

<loudmouthman> bugger gotta go .. meeting in 5 !

<popey> CieD! \o/

<CieD> eh up

<CieD> I just fragged one of my desktops :(

<CieD> is your sources.list still on popey.com?

<popey> uhm

<popey> edgy or dapper?

<CieD> edgy

<CieD> could you copy one into flood?

<popey> i could make it online if you want

<CieD> either that or flood, your choice

<CieD> ..but thanks :)

<popey> my domain slash sources.list

<CieD> thanks :)

<CieD> you made it home yet?

<popey> still at work right now

<popey> "work"

<CieD> :)

<CieD> not much longer I hope

<popey> ditto

<popey> in more ways than one

<popey> contract ends at theend of the month

<popey> \o/

<CieD> Oh, no I finished at 12

<CieD> been out exploring on the bike

<CieD> contract ends, is that a good thing

<popey> in a way, yeah

<popey> I want to spend november doing ubuntu stuff

<CieD> cool, anything specific, other than the expo?

<popey> yus, I have 4 things on my list

* CieD wonders if it would be polite to ask

<popey> you can ask

<popey> basically I have two apps I'd like to develop

<popey> I'd like to take my LPIC too

<CieD> "hey popey, what ya gonna do"?

<CieD> LPIC... let me corner you sometime about that

<CieD> I've got a lot of time on my hands atm, and a big pot of gold to spend on education

<popey> :)

<CieD> doing some linux training might be worthwhile, then I might know what the hell you all talk about

<popey> heh

<popey> did you see simons linux training stuff?

<CieD> no.. but I remember seeing mention of it

<popey> on the mailing list - you should check it out

<popey> I had a look - it's good

<CieD> ok, will do

<CieD> all, when I boot with the dapper live CD, is there a viewable xorg.conf ?

<coz_> Afternoon all...at least here in the states

<CieD> hiya coz_

<coz_> CieD, hey guy thanks

<coz_> I have a prblem that the guys here in the US apparently can;t answer

<coz_> I am running edgy

<coz_> and, after getting my wireless to work with it and doing all the updates etc,, I found that they changed the startup wav

<coz_> I tried to replace it with the original startup.wav in /use/share/sounds but get nothing now

<coz_> anyone here know how to replace the startup.wav

<CieD> surely just overwriting it should work

<CieD> are the file permissions correct?

<coz_> CieD, that si what I thought , however, I get no sound at all for the start up

<coz_> I get the logon and logoff sounds however, they both have a way to change them in gui

<coz_> the startup/wav does not

<CieD> doesn't it? It used to

* CieD looks

<coz_> CieD, if so I cannot find it... now I am taling bout the startup waav not the sound that occurs when you login ...ie.. username/password... I mean the sound after that going into the desktop

<CieD> hmm

<CieD> I turned that off, and now I can't remember where

<coz_> CieD, oh darn!

<coz_> CieD, figures. someone would know and forgot.. just my luck

<coz_> lol

<CieD> I have to go, but I'll be back

<coz_> CieD, ok thanks

<cbx33> ok I'm here

<popey> moo

<cbx33> moo to you

<popey> when loudmouthedman is about (nik) we need to ask him about parking

<popey> the car is required for transporting my pc up there

<popey> i really need to go to bewd now

<popey> er bed

<cbx33> ok

<AdamBagnall> I guess we should ask nik to send out an e-mail detailing everything. Parking, time to get there in the morning, where to meet before if necessary etc.

<andej> hey

<chaddy> lo andej

<andej> hey chaddy - don't suppose you know a lot about grub and it loading windows do you? the #ubuntu channel is a bit busy

<chaddy> don't know much about it, could /msg you my /boot/grub/menu.lst if that would help, this is dual boot with XP?

<chaddy> what's the problem?

<andej> well it'll load ubuntu just fine, but when I load windows, it starts up with the logo and loading bar but then bsods and restarts before I can read anything

<andej> I haven't seen much more of a solution than reinstall everything - just hoping there was another way

<chaddy> it's not a grub problem, I can tell you that much, grub is finished with once it hands over to XP

<chaddy> any strange behaviour in ubuntu?

<andej> yeah - that's what I was thinking, it's just strange because it all seemed to install fine

<chaddy> tail -150 /var/log/messages or dmesg and look for any disk errors

<andej> not really - being linux-style tempermental at times (it doesn't like to load the gui once in a while)

<andej> seems alright in there

<chaddy> what sort of install media do you have for windows?

<chaddy> if it's a cd you should be able to get into the recovery console and run scandisk

<andej> I have my laptop recovery disk

<andej> yeah - that might do it

<andej> I'll go give that a shot

<andej> thanks

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