<OverLord> hi

<Lilandra> hi

<arch> morning, folks

<sensei> Morning

<PuMpErNiCkLe> morning

<arch> still interested in a solution for xfce not managing the desktop, even though i told it to, if anyone has knowledge about that sort of thing

<PuMpErNiCkLe> I'd check for possible conflicts - see if anything else is trying to manage it.

<arch> that's my theory

<arch> but i'm not sure how to check that

<arch> the result seems to be nothing properly managing it

<arch> since no bg wallpaper displays

<arch> no clicking on the desktop produces a result

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<arch> . . . are you . . . a sorcerer?

<arch> :D

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<PuMpErNiCkLe> There are those who call me...... Tim?

<HeathenDan> if arch's upgraded xubuntu from ubuntu, she should try preventing gnome from drawing the desktop

<Neo8750> last time i installed gnome it made my laptop useless

<Neo8750> it caused it to lock up 1/2 way through boot

<Neo8750> but had same problem with the xubuntu 6.06.1 disk

<Neo8750> so figured it was acpi or something

<Jamminpotato> does thunar have a file searcer?

<Jamminpotato> *searcher

<Laibsch> What is so strange about my partition table: http://rafb.net/paste/results/l8WZMJ71.html

<Laibsch> The installer complains that it is strange and parted cannot handle it.

<HeathenDan> dammit, i tried to install gnome-sudoku but the damn thing has dependencies up the wazoo. why do i have to dl all those junk just to play my sudoku? =\

* HeathenDan ends up playing sudoku portable + wine :P

<sensei> Because it's gnome :/

<sensei> Integration galore!

<sensei> Application has to register with this, has to talk to that, has to show up there, has to have that style, has to know what other programs are doing

<sensei> Sudoku applications are advanced shit.. *cough*

<phate> Anyone know how to turn the current desktop style (which looks like gnome :P) to the normal XFCE style?

<esc> sudoku, is NP-complete, why solve something with my head, if i can write a program to do so

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Applications -> settings -> user interface settings -> theme

<sensei> esc: For the fun of it ? The waste of time? Challenge?

<sensei> Utterly stupid remark imho

<sensei> Unless you just wanted to point out to everyone that you could write a sudoku solver, in which case it made sense :)

<phate> what I really ment is from this: http://xubuntu.org/images/s_desktop_jmak2.png to this: http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_I.jpg

<HeathenDan> i don't need a solver, i just want to play the game... btw, ksudoku didn't need no stinking dependencies (maybe cause I already installed all i need with k3b)

<HeathenDan> ksudoku is good, but sudoku portable is simpler and better... sadly i need to wine it :P

<HeathenDan> you just need to tinker with your panels to get that

<Linuturk_code> i wish there was an option to set the panels back to the original breezy config though HeathenDan

<HeathenDan> egad!

<PuMpErNiCkLe> phate: I can't find any simple way to switch. You can do it by editing ~/.config/xfce/panel/panels.xml (or finding a replacement panels.xml) if you know what you're doing, though.

<HeathenDan> dammit, i hate it when i forget to lower the volume when burning with k3b ~_~

<HeathenDan> esp since it's almost midnight and my wife's sleeping

<Brouken> how do i enable vertical sync in the newest ati drivers. the capabilities option is not working =/

<esc> sensei, its just what i thought after i had solved my first (and last) sudoku

<esc> :-) but yeah i could write one, but its been written :-)

<esc> i just enjoyed thinking about the possible strategies that a program could employ to solve sudokus (backtracking elimination etc...)

<Brouken> got it working, thanks anyway...

<Brouken> :D

<sensei> esc: Ther's a challenge to write one that solves them as fast as possible, yeah

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<sensei> esc: nd47.coderock.org/~azi/sudoku.c that's a cool one

<threat2> hello

<sensei> Hi

<threat2> whats new?

<sensei> 5pm? :)

<sensei> Only ten minutes old!

<sensei> esc: http://mathschallenge.net/project/sudoku.txt 50 grids to try it out with

<Jamminpotato> is xubuntu not official like edubuntu and kubuntu are?

<sensei> Define official? :)

<Jamminpotato> well on one of the ubuntu webpages it was listed with gnoppix and mepis and otehrs not with ubuntu kubuntu and edubuntu

<jikuty> phew - I'm back.. this time, with xubuntu correctly installed.

<jikuty> only problem is, my xubuntu is not catching that I have an ethernet card installed .. :/

<HeathenDan> xubuntu is as official as it goes.

<HeathenDan> maybe that webpage is outdated (i still find wiki info that's still breezy-current)

<jikuty> HeathenDan: i like the performance of xubuntu on this old pc, it's better than M$ Win98

<jikuty> and the interface is just so much cleaner.

<HeathenDan> i suppose this calls for a celebration. now go buy me a beer

* jikuty runs off.

<jikuty> bah - I have to find which ethernet card is installed in here, so I can get the correct drivers.

<jikuty> it's labelled SMC Ether-EZ, but as usual, there are too many models called that :/

<HeathenDan> can't you just use the default ethernet driver from your kernel?

<jikuty> it didnt let me.. when I installed, it said that it couldnt find an ethernet card installed at all

<HeathenDan> maybe... you don't have one! call the cops, you wuz robbed

<jikuty> :D

<jikuty> I logged into my gmail before I formatted in Win98 on it!

<HeathenDan> well, it's god telling you to go back to worshipping Lord Gates (may his name be praised)

<jikuty> heh

<jikuty> come to think of it , I do have a copy of windows vista beta sitting around here

<HeathenDan> i'll hafta wish you luck, it's late and i need to go up for work 2moro

<jikuty> where do you live Dan?

<HeathenDan> Thu Aug 31 00:29:57 PHT 2006

<jikuty> 12:28:26

<jikuty> pm.

<HeathenDan> me? in my parents' attic with my wife

<jikuty> lol

<Neo8750> what would cause: when i click on something in menu/panel for it to open two of what i clicked

<HeathenDan> lol, philippines really... anyway, gtg

* HeathenDan is afk... sleep

<Laibsch> What is so strange about my partition table: http://rafb.net/paste/results/l8WZMJ71.html ? What is so strange about my partition table: http://rafb.net/paste/results/l8WZMJ71.html

<Laibsch> The installer complains that it is strange and parted cannot handle it.

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<Neo8750> why is there so many partitions?

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<Jamminpotato> i wish xubuntu wasn't pitched as being primarily for weak systems

<Jamminpotato> what about people who just like xfce

<Neo8750> well it does work great on weak systems

<Jamminpotato> i know

<Neo8750> i mean i'm on a p3 700mhz(runing at 550mhz) with only 128megs ram

<Jamminpotato> but it seems like its always pitched as ubuntu for older systems

<Neo8750> and i got firefox runing and doing apt-get

<Neo8750> as long as torrent

<Neo8750> long = fpr

<Neo8750> i wish thunar had smb support

<Jamminpotato> smb?

<Neo8750> samba

<Jamminpotato> ah

<Jamminpotato> it doesn't?

<Jamminpotato> =/

<Neo8750> not yet

<Neo8750> its supose to next release

<Jamminpotato> what is xffm like?

<Neo8750> i tried it i didn't like it

<esc> yeah, i thought that kinda sucked

<esc> aptitude keeps trying to deinstall my xffm

<esc> with the smb support

<Neo8750> it was buggy i couldn't get it to copy directories from window shares

<esc> really?

<esc> well

<Neo8750> well it would start then just stop randomly

<esc> hmpf

<esc> over here, all the people in my flat run windows, and our file-server runs linux

<esc> so mostly people are using windows to connect to smba shares

<esc> not the other way around

<Neo8750> yeah

<esc> though the problem you are describing is kinda odd

<esc> i guess xffm must depend on the samba stuff to access windows shares

<esc> like smbmount and so on

<esc> so it find it weird its crashing given samba stuff is pretty stable

<esc> maybe its just buggy interaction between xffm and samba

<esc> though i must say i haven't even used thunar yet

<Jamminpotato> what should i use if i need to samba and i'm using thunar?

<esc> smbmount

<Jamminpotato> k

<esc> you can mount smb shares just like harddisks and so on

<esc> you can also smbclient

<esc> if you prefer using an ftp like interface to log-in and log-out

<esc> just look at the man :-)

<esc> Jamminpotato,

<esc> <esc> you can mount smb shares just like harddisks and so on

<esc> <esc> you can also smbclient

<esc> <esc> if you prefer using an ftp like interface to log-in and log-out

<esc> <esc> just look at the man :-)

<esc> think you mised this :-)

<Neo8750> i use to use linneighborhood

<Neo8750> but for somereason it didn't even seen the window computers on network here

<Jamminpotato> i just enabled compositing in xorg.conf and changed my driver for my 9800pro from fglrx to ati and composting works now but my reso is only about 640x480 any ideas

<Jamminpotato> any ideas on my resolution probleam>?

<Neo8750> ctl + alt + +

<Neo8750> i think thats the x key combo to up resolution

<Neo8750> has to be plus on far right on numpad

<sensei> Yeah, the one on the far left of the numpad won't do it ;)

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<Jamminpotato> CTRL+ALT plus the far right numpad +

<Jamminpotato> ?

<Jamminpotato> correct?

<Neo8750> yeah

<Jamminpotato> ok

<Jamminpotato> it didnt work

<Neo8750> oh

<Jamminpotato> and when i look at display option it jut dsiplays default

<Jamminpotato> on the list of reolutions

<Neo8750> hmm sounds like what *ubuntu live cd does to my other computer

<jikuty> hm, how can I tell which model# ethernet card I have in my pc?

<jikuty> it's an SMC Ether-EZ, but I can't tell which model it is, so I can download the appropriate drivers.

<PuMpErNiCkLe> jikuty: lspci |grep -i eth

<PuMpErNiCkLe> Chances are either a) you already have the appropriate driver but it's not being loaded or b) it's being loaded but not configured properly.

<jikuty> i see

<jikuty> when I installed xubuntu, it said it couldnt detect an ethernet card at all

<jikuty> so, im not sure.. let me try that 'lspci |grep -i eth'

<jikuty> doesnt come up with anything :/

<jikuty> just gives me a new line in the terminal

<Neo8750> hmm

<Neo8750> try just: lspci

<jikuty> yep, tried that too..

<jikuty> it detects the 56k modem in there, but not the network card

<Neo8750> maybe you need to do ndiswrapper

<Neo8750> but then i'm not sure if you need it be visable in ls[pci to use it

<Neo8750> jikuty: is it a isa card ??

<jikuty> hm, Yeah, I believe it is

<Neo8750> thats why lspci can't see it

<birdfish> I just installed xubuntu, but when I insert a music cd into the drive, nothing happens.

<josesito> someone knows bash scripting?

<birdfish> I browse to the /media/cdrom/ and it doesn't show that any files are on the cd

<Neo8750> you need to figure out what model your ethernet card is and figure out the module and load it for it to work

<birdfish> However, I just played them yesterday

<Neo8750> birdfish: it shouldn't show anything

<josesito> birdfish, did you mount the cd-rom?

<birdfish> No. I didn't realize that I needed to. I didn't have to in Ubuntu. I figured it was the same thing with xubuntu

<birdfish> Do I just open the terminal and execute "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" ?

<josesito> yes try that

<birdfish> Okay

<Neo8750> isn't it /media/cdrom ?

<birdfish> I should be able to mount it anywhere I think

<birdfish> It tells me that I need to specify a filetype

<birdfish> *filesystem type

<Neo8750> yeah but i think the fstab has it set to that

<Neo8750> also you not supose to mount audio cds

<birdfish> if fstab set them to mount to /media/cdrom, then both are mounted already

<Neo8750> you just need to load a player and it should work

<birdfish> I opened the xfce media player

<birdfish> Xfmedia

<Neo8750> or xmms if you have it

<birdfish> perhaps it only does playlists though

<birdfish> Meh, does xubuntu even recognize most media cards?

<Neo8750> use sound juicer

<birdfish> I installed banshee

<birdfish> Opened the audio cd

<birdfish> Started playing it

<birdfish> But no sound

<birdfish> Nevermind. The system loaded with the sound muted for some reason

* birdfish doesn't think he liked xfce

<Linuturk_code> i liked it before they made it look like gnome

<Neo8750> liked what?

<Linuturk_code> the look of xfce on ubuntu

<Linuturk_code> and yes, I know you can chage it back

<Linuturk_code> change*

<Linuturk_code> but it takes a lot of work

<Neo8750> it was done to make it a lowend ubuntu basicly

<Linuturk_code> the xfce look in breezy was lowend as well

<Linuturk_code> and, better fitting to the xfce gui

<Linuturk_code> you lack a lot of gnome specific apps that make a gnome layout more efficient

<Linuturk_code> where, the layout of xfce makes the xfce applets more suiting to xfce, instead of a gnome-like layout

<jikuty> after loading pppoeconf .. it fails when attempting to load 'modconf' to manually load ethernet drivers

<tooster> by

<jikuty> and, using synaptic.. modconf isn't available :/

<Neo8750> i personally don't mind the xubuntu mock of gnome but not used xfce till this distro i was a fluxbox child

<Neo8750> thing that gets me is that most apps i install don't show in the menu so i had to put them in panel

<Linuturk_code> Neo8750, i'm not sure if it will work, but load up a breezy iso and get the xfce gui from the repos. I don't know if they kept the default layout for breezy, but it better imo

<Linuturk_code> are you talking about fluxbox or xfce when you talk about the menu?

<Neo8750> xfce

<Neo8750> fluxbox was easy config file

<Linuturk_code> you could always install the debian menu (I personally don't like it)

<Neo8750> may give that whirl

<Neo8750> looking at xfce website it kinda reminds me of macos

<tooster> re

<tooster> where are the multimediasettings

<Neo8750> ???

<tooster> hm the audiorecorder says that i have to change my multimedia settings

<tooster> but i dont have a clue where they are

<jikuty> wooohooo :D

<jikuty> I got my network card working

<jikuty> well .. kind of.. I found another dusty network card lying around that was on a PCI interface, so I used that, and had no problems

<Neo8750> [audiorecorder or sound recorder?

<jikuty> the network card that was pre-installed was from 1995

<Neo8750> hehe

<tooster> its name is Audia-Recorder

<tooster> its an item under multimedia

<Neo8750> never used it

<Neo8750> i have sound recorder

<tooster> maybe its the same, i use the german version

<tooster> it was the one that came shipped with xubuntu

<Neo8750> are you sure its not meaning the capute part or record as?

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<baikonur> hi

<baikonur> can I restart the configuration after installation to change the keyboard layout?

<sensei> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_1HuMpb5I LOL

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<jikuty> wooo ... im now using Konversation on this old pc

<jikuty> yay for xubuntu

<somerville32> :]

<somerville32> I love Konversation

<jikuty> yeah, it's pretty nice and clean

<jikuty> i've been using mIRC for years , but this is a decent substitution

<jikuty> I don't really like GAIM though .. is there a better app for MSN?

<somerville32> Yup

<somerville32> aMSN

<jikuty> you recommend it?

<somerville32> lol

<somerville32> It is better then gaim

<jikuty> alright :p

<jikuty> GAIM is very clunky

<somerville32> It is msn only though (aMsn that is)

<jikuty> yeah, that's fine

<jikuty> I normally use Trillian when I'm on my windows PC, but I only use it for MSN anyway

<adam> hello world

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<rellim> hello world ... again :P

<rellim> .....nvm, i'll check back later

<somerville32> lol

* somerville32 waves.

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<Neo8750> how does one use debian menu?

<somerville32> It doesn't work in Xubuntu

<Neo8750> oh =(

<somerville32> lol

<Neo8750> well then can ya tell me how to edit the menus i have currently? when i open in menu editor it doesn't show from accessories to system

<somerville32> I'm at a loss myself, TBH

<Neo8750> everyone seems to be thats why i was hoping to use menus

<somerville32> It is super easy in KDE and gnome but I'm not sure whats going on with Xfce4

<somerville32> I'll makea bug report later today

<mugrido> Hi, I have a problem configuring dri on a i945 card (Thinkpad X60). agpgart, intel_agp, and i915 seem to load just fine. Moreover, dri is activated when I run on 'linux single' (and I do have permissions for dri for everybody in the xorg.conf).

<Breetai> Hey all, I want to burn an audio cd from mp3's with gnomebaker but it complains of a missing plugin, anyone know how to fix this?

<vdepizzol> My xubuntu don't have the "brazilian portuguese" language, only the "portuguese". What I do?

<sensei> Learn portugese ?

<somerville32> lol

<somerville32> :P

<sensei> :)

<somerville32> Just search for the brazilian portuguese language pack

<somerville32> and install it

<vdepizzol> somerville32: how I do this?

<downer> hi

<somerville32> vdepizzol; Open the package manager and search for brazilian portuguese.

<stray77> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-pt-br

<vdepizzol> thanks

<stray77> http://www.ubuntubrasil.org/

<vdepizzol> stray77: I designed this page :P

<somerville32> http://www.ubuntubrasil.org/ <-- Nice website :]

<stray77> (e107)

<downer> i want to see an enlightenment version of ubuntu

<downer> that would be nice.

<Andrew67> ebuntu? ;)

<somerville32> haha :]

<downer> e-buntu

<downer> EEEE buntu

<Andrew67> mmm brazilian portuguese looks like spanish

* somerville32 installs enlightment.

<Andrew67> good luck

<somerville32> lol - is it hard?

<downer> i did it, and i'm half retarded

<Andrew67> wow stray77 nice site

<stray77> thanks, i guess

<stray77> its just e107 with a simple template

<stray77> i have nothin to do with it

<stray77> but e107 in general is great for setting up a website

<somerville32> I like Drupal

<somerville32> Ubuntu uses Drupal

<stray77> u sure?

<stray77> i thought they used e107 as well

<somerville32> Yup

<somerville32> I _know_ the fridge uses Drupal

<somerville32> So I'm pretty sure the main Ubuntu site is Drupal too

<somerville32> There are some noticable characteristics of drupal

<Andrew67> omg tux riding yoshi

<Andrew67> classic

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