<purserj> MatthewV, yup :)
<MatthewV> hey, i found an error in the ubuntu documentation, where do i file a bug?
<purserj> launchpad would be my guess
<MatthewV> purserj, yeah mine too, anyone know exactly where.. otherwise I'll go hunting
<MatthewV> before i do, can everyone confirm that RPM stands for RPM Package Manager, and not Redhat Package Manager?
<Phlosten> there was mention on the marketing list about filing bugs
<Phlosten> for docs
<Phlosten> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPM_Package_Manager
<MatthewV> Phlosten, yep, i looked there, and www.rpm.org and they all tell me the same thing
<Phlosten> well it says 'originally Red Hat Package Manager'. in my book that means they are both right
<MatthewV> think i've found it... https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc
* MatthewV heads off to school
<Phlosten> freespire is very lacking with pre-installed software
<Phlosten> yay! gnucash finished compiling *dances*
<bimberi> gnucash 2 is quoite noice
<pschulz01> Hehe: http://www.turbocashuk.com/
<pschulz01> Anyone else see the 'sponsored Link' irony..
<purserj> ah, I remember those errors
<Phlosten> pschulz01, heh
<pschulz01> Phlosten: Turbocash was mentioned in the 'go-opensource' campaign.. so I want to the websirte and was getting VBScript errors :-)
<pschulz01> s/websirte/website
<Phlosten> yeah, is it any good?
<pschulz01> Don't know.. I was recently at a session on 'accounting practives' for community groups, and MYOB was mentioned quite a bit by the presenter.
<pschulz01> He hadn't heard of 'gnucash'.
<Phlosten> pschulz01, how do you go with with not-for-profits promotion and accounting software? is there much problem with myob being too prevalent?
<pschulz01> What he wanted was an easy web frontend that the 'treasurers assistant' could use to enter data.
<pschulz01> Phlosten: Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's a nut that has to be craked.
<pschulz01> cracked even/
* Phlosten hands pschulz01 a bloody great big open source sledge hammer
<purserj> does that sledge hammer have the "Mighty Thwack" patch?
* pschulz01 puts on some blue war paint and a skirt.
<Phlosten> its from a cartoon series, it can be whatever you want
<pschulz01> Phlosten: There is a game on the X-Box called 'cell damage'.. heard of it?
<Phlosten> what does MYOB do that gnocash/turbocash/others don't do?
<Phlosten> is that the cartoony game where you drive around shooting/whacking each other?
<pschulz01> Phlosten: yes.. we call it 'Axes'
<Phlosten> we have it on the PS2
<pschulz01> axe,axe,axe
<Phlosten> it was one of those cheapie games that was actually extermely playable and entertaining
<pschulz01> Phlosten: With regards to MYOB, part of the problem is that I don't know what it does, or how it compares.
* Phlosten joins the no idea on MYOB club
<pschulz01> Phlosten: especially whan you have 4 players going for it.
<Phlosten> i have never ever seen it running, even from a distance
<Phlosten> my friend in tamworth has been using it and from i gather it is just for book-keeping and invoicing, he is evaluating guncash atm
<Phlosten> the work he does anyway
<Phlosten> he has the cheapie version which print 'MYOB' on every document. very trashy
<pschulz01> Phlosten: Excellent.. would he be able to 'help the cause' and do a write up of his findings?
<Phlosten> i dunno, he is currently set on purchasing a Mac, so I don't know if he will continue with Linux
<cafuego> Macs run Linux very well indeed ;-)
<Phlosten> cafuego, yes but he is infatuated with OS X
<cafuego> OSX is nice, but has a few annoyances.
<cafuego> ... that can not be tweaked away (as opposed to Linux).
<Phlosten> i've got no idea, I havent used a Mac since the Apple IIe's
<pschulz01> Phlosten: I'm using an (older) Mac Mini as my workstation..
<Tatey> I've got linux on my iBook
<Tatey> but it's too slow for my liking, the iBook is just slow
<Phlosten> Tatey, no good, is that arch on there?
<pschulz01> Phlosten: Intel only drivers are an issue.
<Phlosten> bugga
<Tatey> Phlosten: nah, Ubuntu
<Tatey> Arch's PPC support is non-existant
<Phlosten> ah of course, its 686 optimised
<Tatey> hehe, yeap
<Phlosten> i was pondering the other day about running an on-going workshop with the local computer club with linux from scratch
<Tatey> there is an unofficial PPC port, but there is only 1 or 2 devs maintaining it, which just isn't good enough
<Tatey> LFS is a bitch to maintain
<Phlosten> i have people asking me about kernels and other stuff
<Tatey> though, I still want to perform an LFS one day
<Tatey> you can compile a kernel on any distro
<Phlosten> i though it would be cool to just do a step by step LFS install over a year
<Tatey> Phlosten: yea, it would definitely open their eyes, or at least help them understand the inner-workings
<Phlosten> i was thinking of stepping through the book on my own anyway with an older piece of crap machine
<Phlosten> i want to increase my knowledge and understanind of Linux a lot more
<purserj> LFS will do that for you
<Phlosten> bbl
<purserj> Kamping_Kaiser, about?
<Kamping_Kaiser> purana, yes.
<Kamping_Kaiser> for a few more minutes anway
<purserj> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DEC-AlphaServer-800_W0QQitemZ260020135429QQihZ016QQcategoryZ51234QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <-- Anything you'd be interested in?
* Kamping_Kaiser loads slowly
<Kamping_Kaiser> awww. awsome
<Kamping_Kaiser> latest srm, almost latest alphabios, hardware goodness all round :o
<Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, gtg. might be online this arvo if i can
<purserj> cya
<pschulz01> lucychili: Hi there!
<quail> afternoon all
*** Yagisan_ is now known as Yagisan
<pschulz01> lucychili: ping?
<pschulz01> A recent post to LinuxSA mentioned the Open Source Symposium being held in Melbourne/Sydney at the end of the month...
<pschulz01> It looks businessy, but there is something called 'Stateless Linux' available for Redhat systems.
<pschulz01> Anyone heard or seen this?
<pschulz01> There is also something called 'SystemTap'.
<pschulz01> http://www.opensourcesymposium.org/mb/program.html
<thehut> ubotu: tell me about printing
<thehut> fking printing crap
<Phlosten> thehut, i'm guessing you have printing woes?
<purserj> that reminds me, my cups package is borked on my desktop
<Phlosten> bork!
<Phlosten> i read the other day about when mozilla(?) released the Bork version browser to render all Microsoft web pages like the swedish chef
<Phlosten> brought a smile to my face
<purserj> heh, nah everytime I try and upgrade it it throws up the following:Setting up cupsys (1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06) ...
<purserj> FGET cupsys/raw-print changed
<purserj> GET cupsys/backend
<purserj> GET cupsys/ports
<purserj> Error: debconf has an invalid value. Run 'dpkg-reconfigure cupsys' again.
<Phlosten> ah, right. ubuntu?
<purserj> yup
<purserj> thats what the channel topic says
<Phlosten> indeed ;)
<Phlosten> maybe you were a ubuntu-hater hiding in our midst \
<purserj> if cups keeps stuffing me around, i could be. Our printer hangs off this machine
<Phlosten> are you upgrading breezy to dapper or something like that?
<purserj> nope, just a simple update to dapper
<Phlosten> bugga
<Phlosten> bbs, off to the shops
<thehut> Phlosten: yeh
*** thehut is now known as kgoetz
<kgoetz> god damn ubuntu and broken printing.
<kgoetz> 'its easy in debian'
* purserj is going to rebuild his box with gentoo
* kgoetz swears at modded cups
* kgoetz hopes breezy+dapper cups are mor or elss teh same
<quail_linux> afternoon all
<kgoetz> fuck it all
<kgoetz> you fucking ubuntu cups you
<purserj> well that was interesting
* pschulz01 goes hmm..
* bimberi_ hmm's as well
* bimberi_ thinks Kamping_Kaiser should ban him ;p
<quail> i say what a rip off, 50cents each for plastic name tags
<pschulz01> quail: Yeah.. I was just going to use stickers.
*** klepas_Zzz is now known as klepas
*** elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu
<elkbuntu> w00t, no more iinet
* MatthewV thinks that the language in this channel is deteriorating
<elkbuntu> ?
<MatthewV> elkbuntu, just reading through what was said in the channel earlier today
<elkbuntu> oh
<MatthewV> i think that such language should not be accepted in this channel, especially from one of the ops
<MistaED> whaa, was there some serious abuse earlier matthewv?
<MatthewV> MistaED, you can check the logs to see what was said... it wasn't abuse at anyone, just someone letting out their frustrations in the channel
<MistaED> matthewv: there's a log kept for this channel? i'm guessing that's something i should've already known then? XD
<MatthewV> MistaED, there is.. see http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/ for today see http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2006/08/18/%23ubuntu-au.log
<Dano> quick question hopfully someone can help me i'm 3 days new to ubuntu.. i've extracted Flash7 setup to my desktop.. but when I try to copy files flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so to usr/lib/firefox/plugins I don't have permissions because the folder only allows root?
<Dano> ..root to write to it..
<Kamping_Kaiser> Dano, run 'sudo cp', but isnt there a deb for it?
<MatthewV> Dano, i think flash can be installed by installing the flashplugin-nonfree package? or am i wrong
<MistaED> dano: try and install flash from synaptic or aptitude, so it's all auto
<thoreauputic> needs multiverse, but yes
<Dano> i'll try that now :)
<MatthewV> the Desktop Guide (System --> Help --> System Documentation ) has instructions on how to do it
<thoreauputic> Dano: enable universe and multiverse in System - Admin - Software Properties
<quail> Kamping_Kaiser have you seen the email i have put into sfd-sa mail list, email called "Name Tags"
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, no, not been at my email all day
<realist> Anyone interested in setting up a demo for Software Freedom Day?
<quail> i played with Inkscape this afternoon and made up name tags for sfd event
<Dano> we have liftoff.. :) used sudo cp
<Dano> thanx!
<Kamping_Kaiser> realist, that probably depends where you are ;)
<MatthewV> hi Yagisan
<Yagisan> G'day MatthewV
<MatthewV> Yagisan, hows things going?
<Yagisan> MatthewV, stressful. assignment time
<MatthewV> Yagisan, heh.. happens all over the world..
<Yagisan> true
<Yagisan> I'm about to try and grab a nap now the kids have gone to sleep
<Yagisan> be glad when the assignments are over. I can actually have time to get back to my ubuntu interests
<MatthewV> Yagisan, i always feel the same way at exam time...
<realist> Kamping_Kaiser: Why would what others are doing, depend on my location?
<realist> Speaking of Ubuntu interests, I've finally got around to setting up glx + dual head display
<MatthewV> realist, well, if you wan't other people to set up a demo with you, naturally you must be in the same geographical location
<realist> MatthewV: That's not what I was asking.
<Kamping_Kaiser> realist, dual head xgl? cool. *might do that later if its working*
<ajmitch> Kamping_Kaiser: fairly trivial, I found
<Kamping_Kaiser> yay
<realist> Kamping_Kaiser: works okayish, heard it has a few stability issues though
<realist> Already heaps of video demos on youtube
* Kamping_Kaiser doesnt stream off there.
<realist> Wise, potential for addiction there.
<Kamping_Kaiser> heh. dont have the bandwidth
<realist> Dial-up?
<Kamping_Kaiser> nah, crappy 30dollar adsl.
<Kamping_Kaiser> bbl all, gotta go to a party :)
<realist> Speaking of which, I have access to CD duplication equipment, so I'm considering a live CD handout for software freedom day
<realist> mmm bandwidth would be fine on any ADSL... data limits could be an issue
<Kamping_Kaiser> data limits the issue ;)
<Phlosten> anyone know if there is a floppy boot disk that will enable a usb flash disk to boot?
<quail> Kamping_Kaiser: i have put up a diff version of the sfd nmae tags i am working on
<lucychili> ive been trying to dl them to look at them but nautilus is crashy
<lucychili> good on you for doing them and im sure theyre funky =)
<lucychili> i will probably need to restart
<lucychili> poopla
* lucychili puts it off for a bit
<adhoc> evenen varments
<quail> evening adhoc
* adhoc is backing up in preparation to reinstall dapper =(
<adhoc> been having all sorts of pain with the amd64 freezing.
<purserj> bugger
* purserj is having enough of a problem with cups at the moment
<adhoc> just using the deskop, no strange-ness, but then the desktop freezes, can not ping it from other hosts on the network either
<adhoc> purserj: how so ?
<quail> adhoc i am running edgy
<purserj> I did an upgrade and the cupsys package is borked
<purserj> Setting up cupsys (1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06) ...
<purserj> FGET cupsys/raw-print changed
<MotherLUG> borked, I was thinking more along the lines of fubar
<purserj> GET cupsys/backend
<purserj> GET cupsys/ports
* adhoc has been recruited to feed the 4legs ... BRB
<kylie> howdy folks :)
<elkbuntu> hello
<adhoc> purserj: did it change your config files?
<adhoc> purserj: or just the binaries?
<purserj> as far as I can tell its screwed in the post install script
<adhoc> ok
<adhoc> what does the post install script do ?
<purserj> hold on let me reboot, I'm just having a look at gentoo now.
<purserj> Setting up cupsys (1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06) ...
<purserj> FGET cupsys/raw-print changed
<purserj> GET cupsys/backend
<purserj> GET cupsys/ports
<purserj> Error: debconf has an invalid value. Run 'dpkg-reconfigure cupsys' again.
<purserj> /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupsys.postinst: line 182: return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script
<purserj> dpkg: error processing cupsys (--configure):
<purserj> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
<purserj> Errors were encountered while processing:
<purserj> cupsys
<purserj> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
<purserj> Thats the full message ^^^
<xice> hi kylie havent seen you here before
<adhoc> purserj: i would check the package MD5's correctly ...
<adhoc> i've had a few issues with packages not being mirror correctly recently!
<adhoc> then find out why the package was updated ...
<adhoc> you might have to downgrade the package by hand and get a fresh copy of the new package ...
<purserj> righgt
<purserj> right even
<adhoc> make sense?
<purserj> yeah, I'll have a look at it tonight and see what I can do
<kylie> yep, xice first time here... :)
<xice> ah good on ya, any ubuntu problems?
<kylie> nah, my box is well behaved :)
<xice> so long time linux user?
<kylie> oops xice, pretty longtime, more than 10 years :)
<xice> heh, good1
<xice> are u another APC reader then?
<kylie> heh
<kylie> lol
<kylie> not into buying mags and stuff
<xice> ah ok, just weve seen a few new users due to the recent issue
<xice> sup bimeri, i havent got that wireless kit yet, so i dunno if it'll work
<kylie> i've been using ubuntu for hmm..um...since the first one
<xice> heh
<xice> kylie, checkout https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam and www.ubuntu.com.au for more info about #ubuntu-au
<adhoc> xice: you'll be there at openday on sunday with you're car?
<bimberi> xice: ah kk :) (nearly missed that due to misnick ;) )
<xice> adhoc, yeh ill be around
<purserj> hey kylie
<adhoc> xice: do you know where it will be on display?
<xice> nup
<xice> not far from engineering i would assume
<adhoc> ok, in the green down by the cloisters i spose?
<xice> maybe closer to the funny coloured elevator
<adhoc> i saw a large 'wing' hanging, probably drying at the bottom of the south eng buidling a while ago...
<xice> heh, thats the 2003
<adhoc> near the 'lift'
<xice> sort of our hall of fame
<xice> thats our workshop
<adhoc> =)
<adhoc> cool
<xice> the car isnt running atm, but its setup exactly like that piccture on my flickr
<quail> I have released the final version of the name tags tonight
<Phlosten> howdy changlinn, how goes it?
<changlinn> not bad you?
<Phlosten> pretty good, apart from the fact I cannot find an eraser :)
<Phlosten> crisis over, found it!
<xice> Phlosten, what are you working on?
<changlinn> bit annoyed with the apple ads, I want another person to come out, say I am ubuntu/linux etc
<xice> heh
<xice> apple should get more market share before they releaase ads like that
<Phlosten> xice, a layout diagram for SFD
<kylie> hiya purserj :)
<changlinn> heheh I think those ads are designed to get market share, I know some people who will see them and go hmm and go out and get a mac
<xice> ah k, i was thinking ur a designer or sumn lol, ive had my pencils out tonight for a dynamics problem i had
<purserj> hows computer bank going?
<Phlosten> xice, need to provide a diagram to mall centre manager on how to layout the trestle tables we will be using
<siccness> evening
<adhoc> hey siccness
<siccness> whats happenin?
<Phlosten> xice, I do use a lot of pencils for website design idea sketching tho :)
<xice> heh
<siccness> heh
<kylie> purserj, all is well in the computerbank stakes..keeps me flat out :)
<kylie> we are doing a big project for PNG
<siccness> I can't stand doing that, i'd rather use gimp/paint for sketching
<kylie> a high school
<purserj> nice
<Phlosten> using a pencil and paper means I can go anywhere and sketch ideas for layouts etc
<purserj> I'll have to hit you guys up for another interview by the sounds of it
<kylie> heh chasers is on :)
<Phlosten> and its cheaper than a laptop :)
<kylie> we have a pretty big SFD event planned :)
<kylie> and are getting a free tv ad on channel 31
<kylie> community tv station in melb :)
<Phlosten> kylie, schweet
<Phlosten> kylie, we are taking over centre court at our busy shopping mall
<kylie> we do stuff for a group associated with channel 31
<kylie> community media services
<kylie> they are nearly all Linux
<Phlosten> cool
<kylie> coming to our bazaar event to do demos of video for linux and filming it for us
* adhoc watches his system monitor applet ...
<kylie> we fitted them out with a linux network
<kylie> also building them the media/video box :)
* adhoc watches the disk cache hit 95% of ram!
<kylie> Phlosten, where is your shopping mall?
<kylie> shooping centre i meant to say :)
<Phlosten> kylie, Dubbo, NSW
<kylie> should steer clear of americanisation
<Phlosten> gets lots of out of towners on a weekend
<Phlosten> kylie, its officially ''Orana Mall Marketplace' so 'mall' is ok
<Phlosten> there seem to be lots of 'malls' in NSW
<adhoc> NSW seems to desperately wants to be the 52nd state of the USA
<kylie> :)
<adhoc> =(
<adhoc> they've imported all the crap laws
<adhoc> and those pesky buggers in the ACT too
<Phlosten> adhoc, i think we may already be there *sigh*
<adhoc> Phlosten: there is still a chance for us yet
<Phlosten> as long as we dont get attached to their crappy beer!
<purserj> adhoc, I showed this to Kamping_Kaiser before: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DEC-AlphaServer-800_W0QQitemZ260020135429QQihZ016QQcategoryZ51234QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<adhoc> bnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
<purserj> Phlosten, americans don't have beer, they have horse piss
<Phlosten> purserj, indeed, I stand corrected
<adhoc> hehehahah
<adhoc> purserj: i have my eye on a loverly little aplha 4000 server at work
<adhoc> its currently running OpenVMS 6.2
<purserj> Kamping_Kaiser did start to drool a little bit
<adhoc> and has about 20 disks in an external pack
<purserj> nice
* adhoc needs a serious box...
* purserj really has to set up the ML530
<adhoc> what i really need is a serious case i can put my 1.2TB into
<adhoc> the MoBo only has 32bit PCI slots and all the cards are PCI-X 64 bit
<adhoc> the poor server sits on a load avg of 6 when i copy files across NFS from my dekstop =(
<adhoc> hammering out 35-45% iowait =(
<adhoc> its all PCI bottle-neck
<purserj> heh
<adhoc> i'm running a 3ware ATA RAID 64bit PCI card
<adhoc> and its just not performing at all =/
* xice is uncapped in about 3 hrs ;p
<purserj> cueing up your bittorrents?
<adhoc> i've been thinking about what i should be downloading tonight when i crash ;)
<xice> purserj, heh 15 in queue
<xice> err, make that 13
<adhoc> i still need to cut the 6.06.1 amd64 iso to media so i can reinstall my dekstop
<xice> adhoc could you bring 6.06.1 on sunday?
<adhoc> for amd64?
<xice> just x86 if you have it
<xice> hmm, i should start an Adelaide University Open Computing Club,, doesnt seem to be anything like it
<adhoc> xice:
<adhoc> xice: i'll grab it
<xice> ty
<quail> w00t i just like to say i am of to the rally cars in mntcrawford forest this sunday and i will be in a corporate box
<quail> and i just found out it looks like i will be getting a hot lap too
<xice> heh sounds fantastic, id love to go
<adhoc> =)
<quail> i will be taking heaps of pics and will have a digital video cam there too
<quail> and i will be putting it up on the web for all to see
<quail> all i got to say it the best birthday present i could be given
<praetorian> i read 'hot lap' differently
<praetorian> and thought, 'yep, sounds good'
<quail> i have done final release of name tags for SFD tonight >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/~sfd2006/10xnametags-final.svg and >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/~sfd2006/10xnametags-final.pdf
<quail> please feel free to use them for your events
<quail> hot lap is were i will be using the handy cam if i can hold it straight
<praetorian> okay
<xice> what cms is http://southernvaleslug.org/ running?
* praetorian looks
<praetorian> xoops
<xice> ah k, looks really good
<xice> im looking into creating an Adelaide University Open Computing Club atm
<Draicone> That would be interesting
<xice> Draicone, where are you from?
<Draicone> brisbane
<xice> ah k
<realist> xoops is 'okay', requires a bit of 'massaging' to make it useful though
<xice> realist, are u into shares by anychance
<xice> theres this guy on the aussies shareforums with the same name
<realist> different realist :-)
<xice> heh k
* xice wonders if we have ever had 42 ppl here b4... also missing shenki
<quail> xice: xoops
<realist> xice: should get a script to keep 'peak' records
<xice> yeh
<xice> can a bot do that?
<praetorian> if it is programmed to do, sure
<realist> I've only recently become interested in linux advocacy and started using Ubuntu
<siccness> Port Adelaide suck
<quail> i living on the edge with ubuntu
<quail> Computer: kayak | Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy" | Processor: 2x @ 549.11Mhz | Model: Pentium III (Katmai) | Memory: 757MB Free: 442MB [▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀] | Diskspace: 26.60GB Free: 11.00GB | Video: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G100 [Productiva] @ 1152x864 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 58.65MB Up: 0.71GB
<realist> Not exactly sure how to get started, but I guess burning 100x copies of the live CD and handing them out next month will be a step in the right direction
<praetorian> i use gentoo
<praetorian> that seems closer to the edge
<siccness> gentoo is nice
<realist> quail: I've never really been on the 'bleeding edge' of desktop linux
* realist is a debianite
<quail> you just have to live on the edge sometimes
<quail> you learn more faster living on the edge
<siccness> until you slip :P
<quail> but you learn for them
<realist> Living on the edge is fine if you're a developer
<realist> Personally I prefer something more 'sedate' for production environments :-)
<quail> my dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy was not easy
<realist> quail: why's that?
<quail> i had to do alot of screwing around in console to get the gui to work and get the right kernel to run
<realist> Sounds almost expected though.
<quail> i use xfce DE
<quail> so that the prob with the gui
<quail> the update was not as smooth as i thought it would be
<siccness> i dont like xfce for some reason, its not ugly or anything i'd just rather use cli
<realist> I had an interesting time today getting xgl+compiz+gnome working today
<siccness> but thats the beauty of linux, so many options
<realist> siccness: almost 'too' many ways to skin a cat ;p
<siccness> heheh, well put :)
<quail> i have to get my other pc up to edgy to compile stuff i need
<realist> I guess I bought into the Ubuntu marketing hype
<realist> Having ties with South Africa, and such
<xice> xgl is the best
<realist> xice, except ATI driver appear to be a little flakey
<quail> i run ubuntu cause i love the distro and the community support that is behind it
<realist> Either that, or my hardware isn't up to scratch
<siccness> yeah, ubuntu has a great community
<realist> quail: not to mention the 'financial' support
<quail> yeah, but i not think of that
<realist> I run ubuntu... well
<realist> Because I was almost forced to try it
<realist> Dragged kicking and screaming from my debian environment
<quail> community based projects are the best
<realist> Thus far, I'm nothing but impressed
<realist> Probably because it's debian-based, community driven, corporate backed
<quail> brb
<realist> I wonder just how newbie friendly it is though... having been a long time debian user, it's difficult for me to judge
* realist <3 apt
<xice> damn, even apple servers look good
<realist> oops, accidently typed "/quit"
* realist blushes
<realist> xice: nice and shiney
<realist> I've been testing the new intel woodcrest lately
* xice heads to wikipedia
<xice> is that the same chip as in the macpros?
<realist> No idea
<realist> All I know, is they turn me on :-)
<realist> 2 x Dual core @ 2.66GHz, on a Supermicro board
<siccness> woodcrest is the 65nm xeon chip
<realist> Intel pre-release
<xice> much more interesting http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/ferrari599gtb_engine.jpg
<siccness> and those macs use the woodcrest chips, yeah
<realist> xice: even the URL sounds sexy
<realist> siccness: interesting
<siccness> doesnt look like an LS1/2/7 to me, xice :P
<purserj> bloody pisspots
<xice> siccness, eh?
<realist> purserj: evening :-)
<siccness> xice, nevermind :)
<xice> im worried
<realist> purserj: if you're based in Melbourne, you should head down to FSD next month
<siccness> heh
<realist> @ Melbourne Town Hall
<xice> LS1 commodore no?
<siccness> for those who are in melbourne, and own a commodore, come to the burvale hotel on sunday
<purserj> realist sad to say I'm in NSW
<siccness> 300+ commodores raisin money for charity
<xice> heh, ahem..waste of petty ;p
<siccness> It's for the Starlight foundation
<siccness> Should be a great day
<siccness> raise some money for the young ones with health issues and shit
<xice> at least for a good cause
<siccness> fuck oath mate
<xice> "and shit" clearly not required ;p
<siccness> yeah but i aint one good with words :)
<xice> lol
<siccness> the point is, if you own a commodore and are in melb, come down
<xice> hmm, im off 2 read my books
<siccness> take care xice ;)
<xice> cyall
<siccness> and i think it's time i head over to windows to play some V8 Supercars :D
<siccness> catchas
<xice> lol
<xice> byez
<siccness> tander mate ;)
<realist> purserj: I listened to that webcast you did on open for business... nice
<purserj> thanks, once we get the bugs sorted out it'll rock even more
<realist> Haven't mentioned it the powers that be yet, but I'm going to try and motivate our company to promote open source a little more
<realist> Considering we use it extensively
<purserj> nice
<realist> kylie: are you about?
<kylie> only just realist
<quail> hehe
<quail> and the boggyman
<realist> kylie: Have you had any more interest from ubuntu-au members about SFD?
<quail> are people happy with the name tags i have made up?
<realist> quail: name tags?
<realist> I must be out of the loop :-)
<quail> http://southernvaleslug.org/~sfd2006/10xnametags-final.svg and http://southernvaleslug.org/~sfd2006/10xnametags-final.pdf
<realist> quail: is this for a Sydney only event?
<quail> no i in adelaide
<quail> it for all
<quail> i am team leader of an event here
<realist> kylie: are there currently any team leaders for an ubuntu-au team for your event?
<kylie> um, there has been one person realist
<kylie> maybe I can link you up
<realist> That would've been me :-)
<realist> Via e-mail?
<kylie> ah, right, yep that'd be you then ;)
<kylie> cool :)
<realist> Only one person :-(
<realist> What distro are all these laptops going to be running on the day?
<kylie> maybe we can rally some more folks
<realist> That's what I was hoping
<kylie> probably a lot of ubuntu
<kylie> but other stuff as well
<kylie> we are bringing as many as we can muster
<kylie> 6 in the kids game zone
<realist> So I should still go ahead and burn 100 copies of LiveCD?
<kylie> with LCD's
<kylie> be cool if you can do that, not sure how many cd's we'll get this year
<realist> I've got access to a 7CD duplicator at work
<realist> Just say the word, and it's done.
<kylie> we have been saving our ubuntu cd's
<kylie> and we have some from last year
<kylie> we hand em out all the time at computerbank
<realist> I'd really like to see what computerbank is like
<kylie> maybe you can come and visit
<kylie> i have some photos somewhere...
<quail> evening kylie
<kylie> http://vic.computerbank.org.au/Members/kylie/picsatcomputerbank/photoalbum_view
<kylie> hope they work for you
<kylie> i think i gave them the right perms
<kylie> and i'm adding more over the next week
<kylie> virtual tour of cbv
<kylie> heya quail
<quail> how are you kylie
<kylie> i like the name tags you did, pretty neat :)
<kylie> i'd use em for us
<kylie> but we have some from last year
<kylie> we wear computerbank ones
<realist> I might even make some ubuntu-au specific ones, if there's some more interest
<quail> my name tags are gpl
<realist> Otherwise, I might represent my organisation (software development company)
<realist> quail: nice :-)
<kylie> definitely going to be something i suggest all official bazaar folk do...wear a name tag ...we might use quail's ones for those who can't do some up
<realist> kylie: sounds like a plan
<kylie> well, yep realist you can represent your company too...there will be an osv/osia table too :)
<realist> kylie: I might drop in one day before the 16th
<quail> kylie i am a team leader her for Southern Vales
<kylie> at computerbank realist ?
<kylie> to check computerbank out?
<realist> I'm also going to try and co-ordinate some people from Melbourne Wireless
<kylie> ah, cool :)
<realist> kylie: yes, I think computerbank is a great initiative
<quail> and i just putting back into the community to use
<kylie> so you know rob_melb :)
<realist> Only via IRC ;)
<kylie> cool stuff realist :)
<realist> I haven't been as active in that comminity for a few years
<Phlosten> night all
<realist> Not sure how these events are run
<quail> realist: this the first SFD event i have run
<quail> realist: and i am doing it by the seats of my pants
<realist> quail: first one I'll be a part of
<realist> About time to give something back
<realist> kylie: I'm also getting quotes for bulk orders of CDs in .au
<realist> I can make runs of upto 300 myself
<realist> However for more than that, I'll need to sub-contract
<quail> realist: this my first one to be apart of aswell
<realist> quail: you're very brave, and I commend you :-)
<quail> realist: thx
<quail> realist: like i said i flying it by the seat of my pants
<quail> realist: one the event i like to organize is a linux conf
<quail> but that be my my big bang
<quail> linux conf would cost me more money than what i doing with SFD
<quail> who has chanserv rights to this channel
<kylie> realist, we got some free cd's from tdk
<kylie> but would be good to know what price for bulk cd stuff
<kylie> we probably got about 300 cd's from TDK - perfect for you :)
<kylie> we probably have around 300 cd's on hand
<kylie> official shipit ones and 30 or so open day cds from last year
<realist> TDK blanks?
<realist> The only difficulty I may have, is printing labels to the CDs
*** klepas is now known as klepas_Zzz
<kylie> we are thinking of making a stamp
* kylie should be in bed now
<kylie> but got so much stuff to fo
<kylie> do even
<kylie> but now..sleep time, night folks
<quail> g'night kylie
* quail still busy doing stuff

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