<cafuego> hi MatthewV
<MatthewV> hi again cafuego
<MatthewV> gtg now... :(
<MatthewV> klepas_Zzz, when you come around here, take a look at http://www.matthewv.id.au/makethemove/demo and change to the 'opacity' theme... its a quick implementation of your ideas on opacity, and it is totally unsupported in ie
<Fujitsu> I note that in the opacity theme, some elements move slightly on hover.
<klepas_Zzz> MatthewV: i like it :)
*** klepas_Zzz is now known as klepas
<Tatey> ,-O
<Tatey> O(_)) ubuntu
<Tatey> `-O
<klepas> Tatey: hehe :)
<KatteKrab> hi all - I've got some love to share... quotes from a recent convert.
<Fujitsu> Evening.
<KatteKrab> here's news from a recent convert "I am GAIMing you! I am working in Ubuntu, it is vvvvvvvvveeeerrrry impressive, works like a dream"
<KatteKrab> so I ask "what are you liking about it?" and she says "liking: it is ridiculously fast, everything is very intuitive, easy to use, and I like the philosophy behind it"
<KatteKrab> hey Fujitsu
<bimberi> KatteKrab: fantastic!
<KatteKrab> :)
<bimberi> dream customer ;)
<KatteKrab> yep -another satisfied customer!!
<KatteKrab> once she's had a chance to settle in, I'll probably send her here to ask questions if she can't find me :)
<KatteKrab> minor annoyance - openoffice doesn't use the same open/save dialog I'm more used to using.
<Fujitsu> Why not?
<Fujitsu> Which one are you used to?
<cafuego> Gnome
<cafuego> A lot of Linux apps use their own open/save dialog; it's highly annoying.
<Fujitsu> Hmm.
<Fujitsu> OpenOffice uses GNOME save/open dialogs if you use the GNOME version, I'm sure.
<cafuego> Hmm yes, mine does.
<Fujitsu> Yes.
<Fujitsu> It does...
<KatteKrab> mine is clearly stupid then! :) maybe I need to upgrade or something.
<Fujitsu> You're using Ubuntu, KatteKrab?
<KatteKrab> of course I am ;)
<Fujitsu> Make sure you have the openoffice.org-gnome or something like that installed.
<KatteKrab> cafuego is doing things for me.
<cafuego> done
<cafuego> openoffice.org2-gnome
<Fujitsu> Aha.
* KatteKrab waves arms around in a useless fashion
<Fujitsu> Yes, that.
<Fujitsu> Remotely, cafuego?
<cafuego> Fujitsu: Technically yes
<KatteKrab> he's just there
<Fujitsu> Ah.
* KatteKrab points at next desk
<cafuego> In the same office, but via ssh ;-)
<Fujitsu> You're both at CC?
<KatteKrab> *nodnod*
<cafuego> We're both CC.
<cafuego> CC == us.
<Fujitsu> Aha.
<Fujitsu> You are CC, or part of CC?
<KatteKrab> the other two employees can't type in english
<Fujitsu> ...
<cafuego> We each have 50% of the shares.
<Fujitsu> Aha.
<Fujitsu> What exactly does CC do?
<KatteKrab> web development and hosting
<KatteKrab> research
<KatteKrab> facilitation
<Fujitsu> Ah, OK.
<Fujitsu> Fun.
<cafuego> CC produces magnetic patterns from coffee grounds.
<KatteKrab> :)
<cafuego> And modulated electron streams.
<Fujitsu> A....ha....
<KatteKrab> and currently - CC is burning 50 OpenCDs for Open Source Victoria's business briefing session tomorrow
<Fujitsu> Ooh, nice.
<cafuego> and system adminstration/monitoring, currently baking 50 copies of TheOpenCD
<Fujitsu> OSV sounds useful.
<KatteKrab> OSV is doing some cool stuff :)
<Fujitsu> I should really get properly involved in the whole Victorian FOSS thing.
<cafuego> Are you sure? ;-)
<Fujitsu> Er, yeah.
<Fujitsu> I'm not doing much useful stuff... Just being a MOTU-wannabe.
<cafuego> Come to the next LUV meeting.
<Fujitsu> Er, unlikely. I've got parents.
<Fujitsu> :(
<cafuego> So do I, but can still go ;-)
<Fujitsu> Ha. Ha.
<cafuego> seriously though, make them let you go to a meeting
<Fujitsu> I can try.
<Fujitsu> Dad isn
<Fujitsu> *isn't toooooo anti-FOSS, he introduced me to it... So I can try.
<cafuego> There's normally 50-odd people and it tends to be fun :-)
<KatteKrab> why don't you convince your dad to come with you? you'd both be welcome to the luv meeting I'm sure :)
<cafuego> Dunno yet though what presentation there'll be next time.
<KatteKrab> Fujitsu: well you should go to the SFD thing kylie's organising in the town hall.
<KatteKrab> Sept will mostly be the Annual General Meeting, and stuff about SoftwareFreedom Day - il presidente is online - I'll go ask him
<Fujitsu> OK.
<klepas> hey KatteKrab :)
<KatteKrab> hey klepas :) how are ya?
<klepas> good :)
<klepas> what's this about you and CC?
<cafuego> whut? whut?
<KatteKrab> what do you mean me and CC? cc as in creative contingencies
<klepas> Creative Commons?
<klepas> oh
<klepas> :)
<KatteKrab> *grin*
<KatteKrab> cc.com.au
<Tatey> cc as in credit card
<KatteKrab> cc as in corn chips
<KatteKrab> cc as in contented cats
<Fujitsu> machiatto and latte, ey?
<Fujitsu> *macchiato
<KatteKrab> *nods*
<KatteKrab> oh no... the cats?
<KatteKrab> cc as in crusty computers
<klepas> cc as in Creative Commons methinks
* klepas loves his CC shirt
<KatteKrab> creative commons is extremely radical :) I love it.
* cafuego also loves his CC tshirt
<quail> afternoon all
<Fujitsu> Afternoon, quail.
<quail> Fujitsu: how are you?
<Fujitsu> OK, quail.
<quail> ;-)
<nikon> Hi, does has anyone come across synaptic only loading into memory and not running properly?
<Kamping_Kaiser> nikon, i havent heard of it
<nikon> yer nps im checking on the global channel
<nikon> its very strange
<nikon> doing updates see wat happens then
<Kamping_Kaiser> hm. if you have issues perhaps you should close synaptic, check there are no instances of dpkg/apt/synaptic running then tr restarng it
<nikon> have tried all that
<nikon> i think its to do with apt cache or something
<nikon> my package lists
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders where his family have gone... and if they will be back for dinner o_0
<Kamping_Kaiser> nikon, what exactly/roughly happens?
<nikon> lol
<nikon> um i load synaptic
<nikon> it asks for the password
<nikon> the "eggtimer" comes up
<nikon> then it just dissapears
<nikon> go to procces manager
<nikon> synaptic is runnign with full CPU
<Kamping_Kaiser> and its repeatable?
<nikon> yep
<nikon> keeps happening
<Kamping_Kaiser> just a tick, i'll find you the gdb wiki page
<nikon> ok
* Kamping_Kaiser discovers a dist-upgrade+firefox=more then a minute to search :$
<bimberi> nikon: 'sudo killall synaptic' ??
<Tatey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOlrKH3SmtI
<Kamping_Kaiser> forgot to link sorry, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
<Kamping_Kaiser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingProcedures
<Kamping_Kaiser> specificlaly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Backtrace
<Kamping_Kaiser> this makes me sick >> gnome-app-install depends on firefox; however[...]
<Kamping_Kaiser> yay for broken packages :/
<Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, brb. rebooting
<MatthewV> klepas, ping!
* Kamping_Kaiser giggles
* MatthewV groans :P
* Kamping_Kaiser puts another truss in MatthewV
* MatthewV ponders what to do
<MatthewV> Kamping_Kaiser, shenki was telling you about apport wasn't he?
<Kamping_Kaiser> MatthewV, yeh.
<MatthewV> Kamping_Kaiser, had any problems, or havn't you upgraded yet?
<Kamping_Kaiser> dont have any issues, but i'm not sure if i have that plugin he was talking about
<MatthewV> Kamping_Kaiser, were all his issues related to xchat auto-away?
<Kamping_Kaiser> MatthewV, afaik yes.
<Kamping_Kaiser> rather, iirc yes
<MatthewV> Kamping_Kaiser, oh ok, i thought he just said it gave him plenty of issues, cause I've had it installed since this morning with no probs... maybe I'll try enabling that plugin ;)
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<MatthewV> or maybe not...
<MatthewV> main reason being i don't feel like finding the plugin :P
*** Fujitsu_ is now known as Fujitsu
<Kamping_Kaiser> :P
<bimberi> Tatey: thanks for that link!
<MatthewV> bimberi, interesting xgl demos by the same guy on the youtube page... some things i hadn't seen before
<MatthewV> btw, elive had an interesting way of showing that ad by ibm, they had a demo that had 5 different mplayer windows at once, all displaying the same thing :)
<MatthewV> what's a good download manager
<MatthewV> i need one that can throttle my downloads (I know that sounds stupid, but... )
<bimberi> MatthewV: i think i found it - the xgl demo called "Ubuntu Linux" - yep very nice
<MatthewV> bimberi, yep :) did you see part two... some interesting things there with gl elements floating above everything else that i'd never seen before
<bimberi> MatthewV: but i don't know much about download managers sorry :)
<MatthewV> bimberi, no probs, i found a front-end to wget which I'm hoping will do the trick
<bimberi> MatthewV: no not yet, it's still "happy hour" here. I'll have a look once the boys are in bed :)
<MatthewV> bimberi, i just throttled it to 45 kB/s.. and now that the laptop's packed up, i remove the throttle :)
<Tatey> bimberi: I thought it was completely random
<MatthewV> not as fast as bittorrent though :(
* Kamping_Kaiser tries to work out how to make a ruler thats going to be real lenth
* Kamping_Kaiser uses monitor as rough guide
<Kamping_Kaiser> hm. this comp has a ~7" by ~10" video card
<Kamping_Kaiser> with ram spots
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, ping? what are the odds of me finding an adaptor/new vid card for a DEC 3000?
<Kamping_Kaiser> it takes a 3 pin cable - like the sun montirs, just without all the small pins
<siccness> Hey folks!
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, :)
<quail> hi siccness
<Kamping_Kaiser> is there a difference between a battery with "cr3032" and "br3032" printed on the top? both are panasonic, and have 3V printed on them
* Kamping_Kaiser cares, because this battery goes into my alpha :/
<siccness> Anyone here somewhat creative?
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, lots of them are... pity your stuck with me :)
<siccness> hahaha
<Kamping_Kaiser> know anything about batteries? :S
<quail> creative in what way?
<quail> Kamping_Kaiser: have you got both types there?
<siccness> I need someone to think of an innovative idea for a business to make it easier to use, or cheaper etc.. eg: a forklift was invented to make manufacturaring shit simpler)
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, i'm taking out a br2032, and the closest thing i have is a cr2032 (closest, i asume)
<quail> Kamping_Kaiser: look at them both closly
<quail> i think one is thinker than the other
<quail> *thicker
* Kamping_Kaiser goes and finds the first battery :/ where did i put it....
<quail> been awhile since i have seen a br3032
<quail> cr3032 are about the roundness of a 10 cent piece
<quail> sorry cr2032 is the roundness of a 10 cent
<klepas> someone wanted me?
<quail> most the mobo's i got use the cr2032 cell
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, they are /slightly/ different shapes, the br is more rounded on the bottom :(
<Kamping_Kaiser> klepas, if your creative siccness does ;)
<quail> Kamping_Kaiser: i buy mobo cells from the chemist
<quail> Kamping_Kaiser: i buy mobo cells from the chemist and you will pay couple dollars for it
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'm not interested in buying batteries :( itshare has 2 dozen batteries, do you think i have a br2032? no!
<quail> you might have to wait till you can get one :-)
<siccness> this damn well sucks
<siccness> 5 hrs tryna think of an innovation
<Kamping_Kaiser> actually its only 16 batters, here.
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, an inovation?
<siccness> yeah
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, i want a working alpha :(
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, what do you mean?
<siccness> i need to think of an innovation a business could use to make life more efficient, or effective
<quail> siccness, what business you want to create?
<Kamping_Kaiser> innovation 'real world' or 'what you get told before you get screwed by it blokes charging $1200 /hour'?
<siccness> quail: it doesnt matter, the whole idea of the project is to think of an innovation
* Kamping_Kaiser passes siccness apt-get -b
<Kamping_Kaiser> :P
<quail> siccness, oh it a school project
<siccness> ^
<siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: what's that mean? :)
<siccness> me's still usin emerge1
<siccness> s/1/!
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, :O
<Kamping_Kaiser> it means 'download source and build'
<siccness> lol
<Kamping_Kaiser> its gentoo for debian :P
<quail> siccness: how about do a project on mailing cd's of OS distros with a ecommerce web front
<siccness> do you get to watch lines of compiling code fly passed you, as fellow distributor lovers praise how you learn so much from watching it?
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol. dunno.
* Kamping_Kaiser hasnt tried in recent times
<quail> siccness: and then you can help ubuntu-au to put it into action :-)
<siccness> quail: yeah but that's not really what the teachers lookin for
<siccness> here's the example she gave us: a forklift was invented - helps pickup, drop off crap, can reach high-areas
<siccness> so i need to think of something liket hat
<quail> siccness: a hover board (save the use of ladders)
<siccness> oooo i like that
<quail> good for wearhouses
<siccness> very intelligent idea, be good for painters as they can put their paint on it too
<quail> siccness: it be good for them big document warehouses when you need to find a box of evidents
<siccness> it'd be good for me to hover to my car, rather than walk :)
<quail> etc
<quail> yep :-)
* quail thinks been watching to much back to the future
<bimberi> Tatey: hard to disagree :) but it's captivating and finishes well :)
<quail> siccness: i gather it does not matter how futuristic this idea is?
<siccness> Not sure, either way I hope to do this
<siccness> Just have to get my group to agree
<siccness> if they say no, ill split from the group
<quail> hehe
<siccness> i cant waste another 4 weeks doing nothings
<siccness> *nothing
<quail> and do it solo
<siccness> yeah
<siccness> im prepared to
<quail> k
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: quite slim
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i'll have a look in the shed
<Kamping_Kaiser> :/ thanks
<adhoc> which model? as there were a few different MIPS based machines around that time with, i think, four different buses
<Kamping_Kaiser> erm.
<Kamping_Kaiser> its heavy, and the lid comes off :|
* Kamping_Kaiser looks properly
<adhoc> does it have the d15 shped connector with 3 coax sockets in it?
<Kamping_Kaiser> for video? yeh
<adhoc> do you have cables?
<Kamping_Kaiser> no, theres the problem
<Kamping_Kaiser> *well*
<Kamping_Kaiser> not that i know of... big difference ;)
<Draicone> Anyone know why there hasn't been much activity on the mailing lists recently?
<Draicone> yama_: Are you ghosted?
<siccness> Good lord, the PS3 is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in the console-world
<adhoc> siccness: and its only going to get wordse
<siccness> heh
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, linkage?
<adhoc> have a look at the latest hilux ... these are the crack smoking monkeys that will influence the puter world
* Kamping_Kaiser crosses fingers - come on baby, pick up the new hdd and dont cry
<siccness> http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=2006081195220737049&sectionId=1006
<siccness> adhoc: plastic?
<siccness> the amount of plastic on cars today is a joke
<siccness> whatever happened to the old school tough yank cars
* Kamping_Kaiser sobs. i pulled out /usr :'(
<purserj> OSOTA starts in half an hour
* Kamping_Kaiser looks for network install cds :'(
<adhoc> siccness: so it hasn't gotten any worse than i saw it 12 months ago
<adhoc> siccness: tough yank cars suck
<siccness> id pay $100,000 for a mustang genuine boss
<adhoc> and then anyually for your fuel bill ;)
<siccness> lol
<siccness> weekender
<siccness> find ted's old kingswood from kingswood country, bloody wogs :)
<adhoc> siccness: muscle car == http://www.mibv.com/Mini/Misc/TwiniMini/
<siccness> lol
<siccness> theres nothing tough looking about that
<siccness> wheres the shaker? :D
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, that boxen with weird vid. card: pe42a-b9, DEC 3000 600S
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: so its an alpha, not a mips?
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, CPU: KN17 is all iknow about it. :)
<siccness> adhoc: This is a car: http://www.swaqvalley.com/Blueprints/1969_Ford_Mustang_Boss_302_low.jpg
<MatthewV> klepas, around?
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, its an alpha
* Kamping_Kaiser is searching
<adhoc> siccness: thats a pathetic attempt for impotent fourty-something americans to regain their lost teenage years
<bimberi> MatthewV: just watched part 2 - very nice - i particularly liked the 'floating' glxgears
<siccness> lol
<siccness> Look at the toughness it shows
<purserj> And remember, ubuntu-au's very own pschulz01 will be featuring tonight
<adhoc> siccness: but to be fair its one of the few america coupes that handled
<siccness> it just screams "get the .... out my way"
<adhoc> but not off the showroom floor
<adhoc> siccness: it screems "my penis is too small, i have a fast car instead!"
<siccness> not at all
<siccness> it's a passion
<MatthewV> bimberi, so did i, never seen that before ;)
<adhoc> siccness: some on , it was the height of the muscle car era
<adhoc> s/some/come/
<siccness> iheh
<siccness> so if someone offered that to you
<siccness> or a mini
<siccness> you'd take the mini?
<lucychili> i would
<purserj> siccness, adhoc I think you're both missing the essential question, can it run Linux?
<siccness> rofl
<adhoc> siccness: everything went down hill for the car industry after that in the USA, if not becuase everything had a 5l v8 and didn't handle
<klepas> huh?
<siccness> shit i wouldnt be racing it
* klepas is annoyed at this irssi theme :(
<siccness> it'd be my weekend cruiser
<adhoc> purserj: who cares, it's not more sophisticated that a light globe
<purserj> klepas, how can irssi have a theme? its console based
<adhoc> purserj: they run too rough to run any kind of analoge eletrinics from the era !
<thoreauputic> purserj: pretty colours
<adhoc> purserj: the colours don't talk to you!??!?!
<Kamping_Kaiser> oooooh "DEC 3000/600. Alpha 21064 CPU @ 175 MHz" http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~prescott/linux/alpha/dec3000-sysinfo.html
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i just remembered, those things are turbo bus
<thoreauputic> purserj: http://irssi.rulez.org/
<thoreauputic> :)
<adhoc> i'll have to talk to dave at work about them =)
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, that url ^^ look sgood.
<Kamping_Kaiser> cool :)
<klepas> purserj: yea, the colour themes
<klepas> mine fits with my gtk colours
<klepas> only problem is that there is no highlighting when people use my nick
<klepas> and i've tried to hack the theme and make it
<klepas> but i've failed
<klepas> many times :(
<thoreauputic> I have a clever one by myrrtifrom #ubuntu-offtopic that uses red @ to look like roses ;) ( If you like that kind of thing)
<thoreauputic> klepas: there's a /set command for highlighting and beeps etc - can't remember it atm but /help set might tell you
<klepas> thoreauputic: yea, i tried through that too
<klepas> after a while i just gave up
<yama> Draicone: what do you mean by "ghosted"?
<Kamping_Kaiser> whtas a "db15 connector"? sounds familar, but i dont know how :/
<yama> a 15-pin connector, often used for serial connections
<Draicone> yama: You have two nicks logged into the channel, one with your nick and one with _ appended
<Draicone> generally it means you got disconnected without leaving the channel
<yama> Draicone: yeah, I'm logged in at both work and home. I'm at home now
<Kamping_Kaiser> ah, serial ports
<Draicone> command is ./msg nickserv ghost yama <password> from the ghosted account
<thoreauputic> Draicone: no, you can have more than one nick at once
<Draicone> Oh
<Draicone> Ok
<Draicone> thoreauputic: You can, but if you get disconnected without leaving and reconnect your IRC client tries a second nick
<thoreauputic> Draicone: yes , I know :)
<Draicone> thus having two nicks on the channel
<thoreauputic> Draicone: but for example I could be logged on from here and from a shell somewhere else
<thoreauputic> Draicone: so both nicks would be active
<Draicone> thoreauputic: in which case you would deliberately choose a similar yet different nick
* ajmitch sometimes does that
* Draicone only has ghosting problems every so often.
<thoreauputic> Draicone: I just have a _ one the second one, and link them to keep the same mask/ op privs
* Draicone has so many ghost kills that he would be nickserv's worst nightmare if there ever was one
* ajmitch_ waves
<Draicone> hmm
* Draicone doubts anything but a bot can annoy nickserv
<thoreauputic> ajmitch: 0/
* Draicone sets his purpose in life to bugging chanserv instead
<Draicone> '/msg chanserv op #ubuntu-au dammit!' :D
* Draicone clearly doesn't have the right access level.
* Draicone hops on to #wikipediacabal and is happily auto-opped.
<thoreauputic> Draicone: when I was on dialup I could /msg nickserv ghost in my sleep ;) Every time my ISP cut me off I used to do that
<quail> remember people tonight in 15 mins the localfoss podcast will be starting
* Draicone reminisces his 6 years on dialup.
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser what is the format of the case for the 3000 ?
* Draicone reminisces his 12 total years of lifespan and promptly enters a state of chronic depression.
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, er...?
<Kamping_Kaiser> 2x5" drive spots on the front
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: desktop, skinny tower, phat tower?
<Kamping_Kaiser> that sort of info?
<adhoc> wassit look like?
<Kamping_Kaiser> FUCKSAKE! a huntsman just ran into my PC!
<Kamping_Kaiser> i cant get it there!
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: a two legged one or an eight legged one?
<thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: a whole new meaning for "web spider", huh ?
<lucychili> karl that huntsman has been there over a month
<yama> http://extlab1.entnem.ufl.edu/IH8PCS/vol7/snake.htm
<Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, probably... i still dont like it in there
<lucychili> point being that if you were going to kill him youd have done it already, him hiding in the puter is probably not a determining factor
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: its got to make a home somewhere and bring up the kids
<lucychili> =)
<lucychili> hirise
<lucychili> room with a view
<adhoc> its paying its rent by eating other insects
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, well. its about 3or 4 inches tall, maybe a bit over 20" wide and deep
<lucychili> and pooping ornamentally on your mboard
<adhoc> and leaving the rotting carcases under your MoBo
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, all the insects in there are stuck in my cpu fan...
* Kamping_Kaiser waits to hear 'crackle crack' and see a seriopusly pissed of huntsman come out and attack
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: conveniently placed shredder for desposing opf the lumpy bits
<Kamping_Kaiser> :|
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders if he can convince someone to clean said pc and remove spider at the same time
<lucychili> feed him your fingernail clippings
* Kamping_Kaiser is over being surrounded by spiders
<adhoc> you know the chewy bits that get stuck between your teeth
<lucychili> he needs a snack with fibre
<adhoc> lucychili: who Kamping_Kaiser ?
<lucychili> praps you could post an occasional hair or two in the slot
<adhoc> nesting material =)
<lucychili> you could be his ikea
<Kamping_Kaiser> :S
<lucychili> =)
<thoreauputic> lucychili: dangerous if he can't work out the assembly instructions
<purserj> okay we're streaming out some nice "ye olde english" type music as a lead in tonight
<lucychili> eep
* Kamping_Kaiser goes to find spare key
<purserj> eta is about ten minutes
* Kamping_Kaiser is the pheerd of spiders near him.
* thoreauputic wonders why his adsl s/n ratio goes to hell without any apparent pattern or reason
<Kamping_Kaiser> over there *waves any distance away* is fine, near me is not :S
<adhoc> purserj: we have noise
<purserj> good noise or bad noise?
<adhoc> sounds like MIDI morris dancing music?
<adhoc> could just be our little speakers tho
<purserj> yeah, its a bit morrisy
<adhoc> sort of celtic
<quail> sounds good here i like this sort of music
<lucychili> its a bit staticy
<adhoc> a bit of distortion
<purserj> fart!
<lucychili> hehehe
<Kamping_Kaiser> bandwidth loss to irc
<lucychili> better
<adhoc> quite a bit of background noise?
<lucychili> it is better
<adhoc> there is less background noise =)
<nikon> ne 1 had synaptic just die on them
<nikon> loads into mem uses full cpu
<nikon> but dosent show up?
<lucychili> volume is not on
<lucychili> yay
<nikon> huh?
<nikon> ohh :P
<lucychili> http://radio.localfoss.org:8000/osota.mp3
<Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if letting the huntsman listen to bill hicks is a good idea
<bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: it should be listening to lucychili (on osota) !!
<lucychili> um um um um
<purserj> yeah and I cut out a heap too
<lucychili> amazing
* bimberi doesn't notice them
<bimberi> ... until they're mentioned ;p
<Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi, it cant, i dont have the bandwidth
<bimberi> kk: k
* lucychili thinks the um chorale will have stacks of ness in no time
* Fujitsu 's mind explodes at trying to interpret that.
* Kamping_Kaiser lols
<lucychili> unfortunately karl probably understands it
<lucychili> jpurser is collecting our ums
<lucychili> and going to make soem fierce music with it
<lucychili> scratch mix ums
<lucychili> at the rate we are umming he will have enough ums in no time
<adhoc> purserj: awesome guys =)
<Kamping_Kaiser> WOOOOT ! i have a working alpha again :D. now with 30 gig of hdds :D. off to test the cmos battery.
<MotherLUG> pschulz01, PING
<Fujitsu> Kamping_Kaiser, are you collecting every type of machine in history!?
<adhoc> Fujitsu: =)
<adhoc> Fujitsu: between Kamping_Kaiser and myself we are doing a pretty good job
<Fujitsu> What have you got?
<adhoc> Fujitsu: don't start me off ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> ditto.
<Fujitsu> Oooh dear.
<adhoc> Fujitsu: you asked for it
<Kamping_Kaiser> Fujitsu, lets just say i have more pcs of various sorts then friends ;)
<adhoc> Fujitsu: MicroV
<bimberi> adhoc: well we've just heard about the Macs :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> Fujitsu, i might have as many comps as there are people in here
<Fujitsu> Nice!
<Kamping_Kaiser> the CMOS BATTERY WORKS!
* Kamping_Kaiser hugs Fujitsu
* Fujitsu hugs Kamping_Kaiser back.
<adhoc> Fujitsu: MicroVAV II, Mac SE/30, apollo 700, Sun 3/60, sparcstation 5, ultra 5, ultra 10, ultra enterprise 2, mac 6100, 7100, 8100, 840, 700, 601, 475, SE, powerbook 185, 145
<adhoc> um
<adhoc> 7220, beige g3
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, and a few types of PC to go with it :)
<adhoc> mac 560, 5250
<adhoc> some old VME guff
<adhoc> a LART board
<adhoc> 6809 dev box
<bimberi> a what!?
* Fujitsu runs.
<Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
<adhoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lart
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, you got any alphas left there?
<adhoc> this one actually; http://www.aleph1.co.uk/oldsite/armlinux/LART/index.html
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: no
<bimberi> hehe, yes aware of the term, not the board
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: you got the 'big one'
<Kamping_Kaiser> :O
<Kamping_Kaiser> i have 3!
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: itshare had a stack, i missed out
<Kamping_Kaiser> 2 from you, 1 from itshare
<Kamping_Kaiser> bugger :S
<adhoc> is that a good thing or ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> depends what you missed out on
<adhoc> i got the vax
<Kamping_Kaiser> because anything good i would take ;P
<adhoc> and lucychili baught home the little vax
<Kamping_Kaiser> oh, lyns giving me a rack, as soon as i can pick it up ;)
<Kamping_Kaiser> hm. now the alpha Works, i suppose i should do some work :/
<quail> pschulz01: ping
<quail> pschulz01: MotherLUG looking for you
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: and lucychili also baught home the sun3's
<lucychili> =[
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<adhoc> but they are such cool machnies!
<lucychili> yup but jokes on you now thatits house inspection time
* adhoc would like to build his own VME based machines
<adhoc> like the sun3
<adhoc> lucychili: true
* Kamping_Kaiser looked at the sun T1000 and T2000's online today *omg* i want one
<adhoc> the sun 1U T1000 ?
<Kamping_Kaiser> yeh.
<lucychili> thats just your inner huntsman talking karl
<adhoc> we have one in the dev room at work, running solaris 10
* Kamping_Kaiser wipes drool off table
<Kamping_Kaiser> O
<Kamping_Kaiser> :O
<adhoc> they are way too noisy
<Kamping_Kaiser> is it loud fans, or lots of fans?
<lucychili> =)
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
<Kamping_Kaiser> oh :/
<adhoc> its 1U, so small fans spinning like crazy
<Kamping_Kaiser> small ! always == noisy, but oh well
<adhoc> the two X2100s are are quieter than the one T1000
* Kamping_Kaiser slaps sun
<Kamping_Kaiser> mmm.
* Kamping_Kaiser hasnt looked at the x2100's specs
<siccness> Damn geek talk, it's passed 9pm
<siccness> !
<adhoc> what?
<adhoc> its only 22:22
<siccness> Is Sth Aus 30mins behind EST?
<adhoc> siccness: its a geeky channel, in a geeky country ;)
<siccness> I always think it's 1hr :)
<adhoc> siccness: you're in the channel ...
<siccness> yeah, twas a joke ;)
<siccness> a poor one :)
<adhoc> tis ok ...
<siccness> of course :)
<adhoc> siccness: what projects you been working on?
<siccness> under ubuntu-au? none
<adhoc> what geeky good-ness you been getting up to?
<siccness> at tafe? too many
<adhoc> siccness: at home or at work ...
<siccness> well at tafe I'm mostly dealing with project management stuff
<siccness> at home i'm just playin around with linux tools
<siccness> and trying to learn novell a bit more
<adhoc> SLED 10 is out
<adhoc> one of the guys at work was ranting about it
* adhoc got a hat!
<siccness> a SLED hat? :)
<adhoc> yup
<adhoc> its a nice one too
<siccness> I want an ubuntu/gentoo t-shirt
<adhoc> it has "10" on the front and "your linux is ready" on the back
<siccness> but the fact remains that im not prepared to pay $50 for em
<adhoc> and descrete Novel on the side
<adhoc> tis a lot huh?
<siccness> not $50, but it's pretty expensive for a tshirt
<siccness> as im not one to really pay more than $10 for a tshirt
* Kamping_Kaiser needs to try novells suse rpm on ubuntu
<Kamping_Kaiser> the one for their netware crap
* adhoc was thinking about putting the desktop on his lappy
<adhoc> to see what its like
<adhoc> and if the wireless works
<Kamping_Kaiser> SLED?
<adhoc> yeah
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: you played with tat recently?
* Kamping_Kaiser was underwhelmed... shenki and myself both i think
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, i did the installfest with linuxsa
<adhoc> n
<adhoc> and?
* Kamping_Kaiser has a sled 10 dvd
<Kamping_Kaiser> (eval)
<Kamping_Kaiser> i was underwhelmed ;)
* Kamping_Kaiser debates installing suse in the first partitoin on his hdd, which he had set aside for windows
<siccness> windows is good for gaming
* adhoc will wait and see how dave at work likes it
<siccness> and we all know how fun gaming can be
* Kamping_Kaiser has no probs with quake 3
<adhoc> siccness: who cares?
<siccness> uhh
<siccness> well someone who might wish to play games
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, back out now
<Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
<siccness> would probably leave it for windows
<siccness> back out frmo what?
<Kamping_Kaiser> arguing with adhoc about the use of games. i can see it getting messy fast ;)
<adhoc> siccness: get yourself a vt100 or similar and get yourself a copy of nethack|moria|angband|zork|dungeon
<siccness> or
<siccness> get yourself a copy of v8 supercars 3
<adhoc> plug the terminal into you linux peeecee and set getty and login
<adhoc> siccness: pfffffffffft
<siccness> yeah, i'd love to see a vote between nethack and oblivion or whatever kids play these days
<siccness> and see who wins
<siccness> :)
<TheMuso> c
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: new games are the same as games from ten years ago, just with more pixels
<TheMuso> damn my kvm is being a bitch tonight
<xice> siccness, plz dont start on the v8s
<siccness> it's not about v8s
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, agree
<adhoc> damn agrcultural tech from the 1890s
<Kamping_Kaiser> but people like pixels (remmber bofh: monitor needs a new box of pixles)
<siccness> you can't honestly expect every single gamer in the world to shift to linux to play nethack
<siccness> that's rediculous
<adhoc> siccness: true
<adhoc> siccness: there is also frozen bubble
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i was willing to, why arnt they :P
<siccness> lol
<siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: because people fork out $700 for a video card
<siccness> and they aint wasting it on nethack :P
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i had a kid ranting at me for 6 hours today about his hardware, dont tell me what it costs :P
<siccness> heh
<Kamping_Kaiser> hey, nethack could use about 1/500th of the video memory!
<adhoc> 8 k
<siccness> hell im with you guys, all the games these days prwetty much suck
<adhoc> versus 265MB on my 6600gt
<adhoc> siccness: there is so little innovation
* Kamping_Kaiser has 256 on his 5600Ultra. damn it helped playing doom3
<siccness> although i stand by zelda: oot
* Kamping_Kaiser wishes he could use vid ram to hold nautilus in
<adhoc> its all been done before ... </rant>
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: 4GB is the answer
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: currently i'm using 50% of RAM and of that 11% is userspace apps
<siccness> of course its all been done before, theres nothing remotely different about FPS's
<siccness> same with racing, but what else can you do?
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: 1.3GB free and 1.5 in disk cache
* Kamping_Kaiser needs more ram
<adhoc> siccness: full body force feedback
<adhoc> siccness: in 1997 we build a "imersion" racing game demo for the Open day at uni
<siccness> so you can feel g-force?
<adhoc> siccness: a seat from a celica, force feedback steering wheel + pedals, 5.1 sound, 1024x768 projector, aural interactor (kidney puncher)
<adhoc> siccness: we had about 50 people sit down and have a go
<adhoc> of those 20 people were sick afterwards
<siccness> heh exactly
<adhoc> including the dean and the head of department
<siccness> why would anyone want to play that
<adhoc> for the next time we tried, we didn't use the kidney puncher
<adhoc> no one was sick
<adhoc> its all about feedback
<adhoc> messy, but fun
<adhoc> need for speed 3, german or austrian track ... with the cobble stone streets
<adhoc> made the kidney puncher shake like cras
<adhoc> crazy
<adhoc> we recorded the person and the game video and compared how folks reacted
<adhoc> shame we never got it written up as a proper research paper =(
<siccness> "How to make people sick" writted by adhoc :)
<siccness> *written
* adhoc provided most the gear
<siccness> I can't believe NASA lost their moon-landing tapes
<adhoc> dual voodoo cards + sound + kidney puncher etc
<adhoc> siccness: oh?
<siccness> NASA stated it was one of the most historical events of all time, and yet they lose it
<siccness> Well done
<adhoc> like the BBC and early dr who?
<siccness> Watches the fuel add to the skeptics fire
<adhoc> yeah ...
<siccness> although i dont believe they ever went to the moon anyway
<xice> adhoc, sounds good
<xice> siccness, become an engineer, see that spaceflight is much more straight forward than u thought
<siccness> eh?
<xice> spaceflights definetly possible
<siccness> not saying it isnt
<xice> nite all
<MatthewV> xice, night
<Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
<quail> night xice
<siccness> night xice
<MatthewV> goodnight everyone
<quail> MatthewV, g'night
<Tatey> fella's
<siccness> Logitech G25 looks mad
<quail> what that
<siccness> a steering with a clutch, and proper 6-speed H gear setup
<Tatey> hah, I found barebone laptops
<siccness> all the other wheels are autos, or a button for clutch
<siccness> which is stupid
<quail> oh
<Tatey> http://online.infinitycomputer.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=190&searchtab=1&cat=nb&brand=acces&advmode=m <-- Barebone laptops, I want
<siccness> only issue i have with the g25 design is the distance between pedals, too hard to roll between
<Kamping_Kaiser> oh, 2 things i just thought of. MSI do clean (no OS) laptops on some of their 'customise your laptop' pages
<Kamping_Kaiser> and SUNs T1000 page has "Operating systems: Solaris 10 6/06 Operating system"
<Kamping_Kaiser> i think i know what 6/06 is supposed to indicate ;)
<adhoc> nigt all
<Kamping_Kaiser> later
*** klepas is now known as klepas_Zzz
<siccness> im off too, night all
<MatthewV> how do i burn an iso from command line? nautilus is playing up, gnomebaker is failing....
*** klepas_Zzz is now known as klepas
<MatthewV> hi klepas
<Kamping_Kaiser> MatthewV, cdtools
* Kamping_Kaiser gone

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