| <Indephysis> What was the package that had all the compiling tools and stuff in it? | |
| <Indephysis> Like, gcc, make, etc | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> build-essential | |
| <Indephysis> Thanks | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> np | |
| <Indephysis> I needed Hengband and Entroband :p | |
| <pipboy> Yay i crashed x | |
| <eamonc> Hey, I'm trying to download the Xubuntu ISO torrents, but the tracker's refusing me. Anybody know what's up? | |
| <eamonc> torrent.ubuntu.com is up and port 6969 is open. | |
| <BlueEagle> eihnat: trackers might get busy at times. Give it half an hour and if you still don't get access to the tracker then you can come back. :) | |
| <BlueEagle> eihnat: (read; it's normal) | |
| <BlueEagle> eihnat: sorry, mis-nicked. | |
| <BlueEagle> why does people ask questions and then leave? | |
| <Indephysis> BlueEagle - I would have laughed so badly if you'd left before anyone answered | |
| <BlueEagle> indephysis: ;D | |
| <Zambezi> Anybody know how to extract compressed zipfiles in exe-format in the terminal? | |
| <Indephysis> Don't you need wine? | |
| <Zambezi> Indephysis, I'm not sure. | |
| <Zambezi> Indephysis, I use rar x file.rar to extract rarfiles, so it should be easy in with zipfiles too. | |
| <Indephysis> I'm a newbie. :x | |
| <badbrainz> i'm a newbie too, but all i have to do is click on the .zip file and it opens. Well thats with the gui not terminal so I guess that doesnt answer your question. | |
| <Zambezi> badbrainz, But this is selfextract. | |
| <Zambezi> badbrainz, And I can't open it in WinRAR for Linux. | |
| <badbrainz> its a zip file not a rar file that you want to open? | |
| <Zambezi> badbrainz, But WinRAR in Windows can extract zipfiles, so I thought I could open it, but I couldn't. but I try with wine file.exe. | |
| <badbrainz> its different in linux | |
| <Indephysis> Can you suggest a good Bittorrent client perferably with selective downloading? :P | |
| <badbrainz> xarchiver is the program that unzips files by default | |
| <badbrainz> xarchiver can unrar as well but you have to install unrar using apt-get | |
| <Zambezi> Indephysis, Check out rtorrent and bitornado. They are in ncurse. | |
| <Zambezi> badbrainz, But you don't get it. It's a zipfile i exeformat. So I can't extract it with Xarchiver. | |
| <seshomaru> hello , can anyone help me set Xubuntu to automatically play CDs? | |
| <seshomaru> I want it to pop up vlc or Xfmedia whenever I put a Cd in... | |
| <seshomaru> is that possible? | |
| <ed1t> how do i set ubuntu's default web browser? | |
| <seshomaru> hi - anyone out there? | |
| <Stickittotheman> hey, could someone help me out with CSS + WINE? | |
| <Stickittotheman> anyone? | |
| <Stickittotheman> ubotu: you helped me out last time | |
| <ubotu> I know nothing about you helped me out last time - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | |
| <Stickittotheman> psh | |
| <Stickittotheman> its a bot | |
| <Stickittotheman> ubotu: could you help me with WINE? | |
| <ubotu> I know nothing about could you help me with WINE? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | |
| <Stickittotheman> ubotu: wine | |
| <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information. | |
| <Stickittotheman> noes | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> o.o | |
| <nbjayme> no sound on Via-8235, ASRock MotherBoard, AMD Processor | |
| <nbjayme> help! | |
| <jdmpike> yo xubuntu'ers! | |
| <eimajenthat> why do I need two activity loggers and three action schedulers??? | |
| <eimajenthat> shouldn't one of each be enough? | |
| <rellim> hello world | |
| <eimajenthat> well, I turned the extra ones off, we'll see if my machine explodes | |
| <eimajenthat> why is Xubuntu laggy? I thought it was the fast 'buntu | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It is much faster. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> What are you trying to do with it that makes it lag? | |
| <riPPerMD> whats the editor in xubuntu that is used like gedit? | |
| <riPPerMD> in a command like this one: $sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> riPPerMD: mousepad | |
| <riPPerMD> thanks PuMpErNiCkLe | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> np | |
| <Gareth^> sorry for the massive amount of rejoins, having a crazy storm here and it's playing havoc on my internet connection | |
| <snowman> VICTORY! | |
| <snowman> Snowman 1 : old toshiba laptop 0 | |
| <ph00> hi all | |
| <odat> hi everyone | |
| <odat> anyone here? | |
| <snowman> sorta. | |
| <snowman> trying to get sound working on this laptop\ | |
| <odat> snowman, whats the prob? | |
| <snowman> seem to have what appears to be the right modules loaded, but I can't get kde to produce sound. | |
| <odat> kde | |
| <odat> why are you here? | |
| <snowman> whoops. xfce :P | |
| <snowman> I have multiple *ubuntu boxes. this one's kde, laptop is xubuntu, etc. :P | |
| <odat> go to settings and mixer | |
| <snowman> ok, and? | |
| <snowman> it's neither muted, nor turned down. | |
| <odat> snowman, don't use default | |
| <odat> select the acutual card | |
| <snowman> it is. ess es1978 (Maestro) | |
| <odat> snowman, ahhhh those suck | |
| <snowman> thanks. | |
| <odat> snowman, the forums will tell you how | |
| <snowman> nope, they didn't. | |
| <snowman> anway, off I go. enough of this for now I think. | |
| *** b_52Free_ is now known as b_52Free | |
| <bdgraue> morning @ all | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> yo | |
| <bdgraue> how do i save a complete website, include all links? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Save it as a web archive. | |
| <bdgraue> PuMpErNiCkLe: wich program do i use for that? in ff is no save as an web archive | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> In FF I think it's 'web page, complete' or something like that. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Or you could use Opera, the way I do. :) | |
| <bdgraue> PuMpErNiCkLe: it works also in ff ;-) | |
| <bdgraue> now i have to know how to print all the html files, or to convert them all to simple text-files and then print them | |
| <bdgraue> paper reading is more relaxed then monitor reading | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can't print directly from FF? | |
| <bdgraue> PuMpErNiCkLe: its a complete manual | |
| <bdgraue> PuMpErNiCkLe: 50 sites, i think | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Ah | |
| <bdgraue> PuMpErNiCkLe: can i print it and all following links? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Not in any simple way I know about... I'd end up loading each page individually and adding it to the print queue. | |
| <bdgraue> thats what i would avoid | |
| <Steggy> Is there a Xubuntu 6.06.1 download available? When I follow the Download link from Xubuntu.org, all I can find is the 6.06 downloads. | |
| <Steggy> Never mind, I found it. | |
| <bdgraue> Steggy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06/release.1/ | |
| <tribe> Hi, i'm trying to download the xubuntu desktop i386 install/live cd with bittorrent but i just get an error message, requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker... | |
| <tribe> anyone know what's up with that? :) | |
| *** ThunderStruck is now known as gnomefreak | |
| <bdgraue> tribe: tried the standart-download? | |
| <tribe> yeah but unfortunately it's quite slow | |
| <bdgraue> tribe: but if it works, it is much faster then an broken torrent, isn't it? ;-) | |
| <tribe> well yes that's true :) | |
| <Steggy> tribe: You need to get the 6.06.1 image. You can find it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06/release.1/ | |
| <tribe> Steggy: seems to work, thanks | |
| <Steggy> tribe: No problem, I had the same trouble just a little bit ago. | |
| <bdgraue> hehehe | |
| <mrazster> lo fellas | |
| <romana> im not a fella;) | |
| <mrazster> hehe..OK...then | |
| <mrazster> I'll do it all over again.. | |
| <mrazster> le fellas and romana | |
| <mrazster> ;=) | |
| <mrazster> opps typo should "lo" | |
| <mrazster> everyone OK ..? | |
| <mrazster> OK then...good to see everyone is doing just fine ;=) | |
| <Timothy-> yer, i'm good like :) | |
| <ph00> ~~ | |
| <romana> so quiet | |
| <mrazster> hehe..yeah really quiet | |
| <mrazster> are any1 of you running composit in xfce atm ..?? | |
| <romana> hehe no | |
| <mrazster> ok | |
| <mrazster> nevermind then ;=) | |
| <romana> sorry ate | |
| <romana> mate even | |
| <romana> dyslexic fingers tonight, tired | |
| <mrazster> ok..np matey | |
| <mrazster> tonight ..??? .....where are you from..? | |
| <romana> australia | |
| <romana> its fri night 8.37 here | |
| <Timothy-> nearly time to get pissed up :) | |
| <romana> hehe not everyone in oz gets pissed mate | |
| <Timothy-> shame.. it's a nice image :D | |
| <Timothy-> anyone else get a problem where every time they launch thunar, there are two windows? | |
| <romana> i use fvwm | |
| <romana> but one of mine ofspring uses thunar on her latop - no dbl afaik | |
| <romana> shed grump at me to fix it;) | |
| <bdgraue> mrazster: any problems with composite? | |
| <mrazster> romana, : aha Ok then....im in sweden it's right after lunch time here | |
| <mrazster> bdgraue, : well not eaxctly a problem...more like a configuration question... | |
| <romana> mrazster: ahh. | |
| <romana> is always fin trying to work out when people are:) | |
| <romana> timetravelling:) | |
| <bdgraue> mrazster: what is it for a question? | |
| <mrazster> bdgraue, priv ----> | |
| <mrazster> bdgraue, I was wondering if there is way to change the "shadow effect" if you know what I mean.... | |
| <mrazster> bdgraue, I can't find any settings for it in the "compositor" tab in "window manager tweaks" | |
| <bdgraue> mrazster: had the same question here yesterday, some people want to adjust the shadow | |
| <bdgraue> there is no other setting, only on or off | |
| <ph00> hello | |
| <mrazster> OK....but there must be a setting somewhere that controlls it...shouldn't be changeable..? | |
| <bdgraue> no "make it a big shadow" or " i like it tiny" ;-) | |
| <bdgraue> mrazster: i have no idea, where u can find settings for the shadow | |
| <bdgraue> except the on and off | |
| <mrazster> ok...thnx for taking the time | |
| <bdgraue> np | |
| <ph00> can I make key-bindings in xfce? | |
| <TheSheep> ph00: yes | |
| <mrazster> ok...another question then... | |
| <mrazster> any1 using adesklets/modubar ..?? | |
| <ph00> TheSheep: thx, how's it going today? | |
| <ph00> /quit | |
| <rellim> hello woeld | |
| <rellim> world* | |
| <rellim> sorry ... i busted a finger last night and the bandage seems to make my keystrokes a little off | |
| <rellim> how is everyone? | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: We aren't. | |
| <rellim> quite apparently | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: We're just figments of your own imagination. Cognito ergo sum only applies to you. | |
| <rellim> wait ... i've had this dream before, but i wasn't at work last time .... | |
| <rellim> BlueEagle: in the non-imagination constructed side of things, how are you? | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: "work" is just another apperision that your imagination has conjured for you to keep your mind from getting bored. | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: There _is_ no non-imagined side. | |
| <rellim> -.-; | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: :) | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: I'm feeling a bit philosophical today. (could you guess?) | |
| <rellim> BlueEagle: i had gathered you were heading that direction :P | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: ofcourse you did. This is after all your fantasy. | |
| <TheSheep> BlueEagle: it is not provable, so as well we can skip it | |
| <rellim> i have actually gotten to a point where i am tired of bloated software, so i am looking for more memory efficient software for every aspect of my life and i think i am about to replace apache on my server with lighttpd | |
| <TheSheep> yay! | |
| <TheSheep> lighttpd is cute | |
| <rellim> TheSheep: you use it? | |
| <TheSheep> no, that's why I think it's cute :3 | |
| * TheSheep --> home | |
| <rellim> oh ... lol | |
| <rellim> TheSheep: what web server do you like? | |
| <rellim> i have been looking at Cherokee, Monkey Httpd, and Lighttpd | |
| <TheSheep> rellim: I told you already, lighttp | |
| <rellim> but you don't use it .... do you just like it by concept or do you know someone who has had success with it? | |
| <TheSheep> rellim: I like to look in its direction while I'm forced to use apache :) | |
| <rellim> TheSheep: lol, fair enough ... why are you forced to use apache? | |
| <TheSheep> rellim: because all the users want it, and all the lecturers teach it | |
| <rellim> i dunno ... i've also been looking at Cherokee ....http://www.0x50.org/ | |
| <rellim> i like their idea and how small and light it is, but i think its also cute to have an opposing indian tribe name to apache | |
| <BlueEagle> rellim: Thanks alot. Now you imagined that I was hungry so now I'm gonna have to go find something to eat. :p | |
| <rellim> BlueEagle: yeah, sorry bout that one ... i couldn't resist | |
| <TheSheep> BlueEagle: might have been worse ;) | |
| <BlueEagle> thesheep: ofcourse | |
| <BlueEagle> thesheep: Now don't you dare immagine me run over by a car. :p | |
| <rellim> tab completion is your friend | |
| <tribe_> hi, is there any way i can install lilo to xubuntu? :) | |
| <Caraibes> I thought Xub' used Grub... | |
| <Caraibes> it's the one that innstalled straight out of the cd... | |
| <tribe_> yes | |
| <tribe_> but i get grub error 18 because of my old bios | |
| <Caraibes> ok | |
| <Caraibes> I am not an expert, so I can't really help out, but maybe the forums... | |
| <tribe_> yeah i checked the forums, some guy had asked the same question but got no answer :) | |
| <Caraibes> if you need a lite desktop with lilo, try Zenwalk | |
| <Caraibes> it is good too | |
| <tribe_> hmm | |
| <tribe_> never heard of it | |
| <Caraibes> www.zenwalk.org | |
| <Caraibes> it is equivalent to Xubuntu, but based on Slackware | |
| <tribe_> ok | |
| <Caraibes> good for old hardware | |
| <Caraibes> I enjoy both | |
| <tribe_> if i can't get xubuntu to work i'll try it out :) | |
| <tribe_> but i'm not giving up yet! | |
| <Caraibes> try to reinstall | |
| <tribe_> wont help... | |
| <Caraibes> then, I don't know... | |
| <npster> What CD image should I use for installing Xubuntu on a old notebook with 64 or 32 MB of ram and 4GB of space and Pentium 2 | |
| <Caraibes> I did just that this morning with the "install" version... | |
| <tribe_> you shouldn't install xubuntu at all on a computer with so little ram =D | |
| <Caraibes> it is text mode, but it works fine with 64 of ram... | |
| <Caraibes> not a Ferrari, though... | |
| <Caraibes> but it worked | |
| <npster> Then what should I use | |
| <tribe_> you should buy more ram :) | |
| <npster> I cant | |
| <npster> I can use swap | |
| <npster> right | |
| <tribe_> hmm | |
| <tribe_> i'd try out damnsmalllinux | |
| <Caraibes> Zenwalk or Xubuntu installed and ran fine with 64 of ram (not very fast, but irt works...) | |
| <tribe_> ran not very fast and only in textmode... :) | |
| <Caraibes> better thatn Damn Small linux | |
| <npster> Is it normal to use it | |
| <Caraibes> no in GUI | |
| <tribe_> ah | |
| <tribe_> i installed damn small linux on a 486/100mhz with 16mb ram and it ran ok :) | |
| <Caraibes> no problem | |
| <Caraibes> I am not an expert with Damn Small, so you might know more.... | |
| <Caraibes> but Xub' works ok with 64 | |
| <tribe_> how about 32? | |
| <Caraibes> I shall look a bit further in Damn Small hdd install | |
| <npster> How do I run the alternitive | |
| <Caraibes> don't know, haven't tried 32 | |
| <tribe_> argh, anyone know how to mount a floppy disk in xubuntu live? | |
| <Caraibes> download the "install" version, it's the text mode | |
| <Caraibes> no | |
| <Andrew67> i tried damn small once on a 64MB RAM pc, used only 10, never did install it | |
| <npster> DSL is stupid, not much of a GUI | |
| <Andrew67> fluxbox i think | |
| <tribe_> you can change the wm of course... | |
| <tribe_> tho' fluxbox is nice ;) | |
| <npster> If I use the Desktop CD, will it work ? | |
| <tribe_> npster: only one way to find out | |
| <Andrew67> i got the livecd to work on that same 64MB, PAINFULLY slow (and partly working since it had some swap in it already) | |
| <Caraibes> desktop cd is too heavy for 64 of ram | |
| <npster> But with a swap it'll be all right ? | |
| <Andrew67> youd have to make swap before running the livecd (or so i think) and it will be horribly slow | |
| <npster> I need a tutorial for the alternative | |
| <Caraibes> it is easy, find the explanation on the web | |
| <npster> On that notebook I have Windows 98 installed and I don't need it, so I want Xubuntu on the whole HDD | |
| <npster> and GRUB will still be there | |
| <tribe_> argh there's gotta be something wrong with floppy access in xubuntu live (or my floppy drive) :) | |
| <tribe_> mounting won't work, mtools won't work... | |
| <npster> If something goes wrong wile installing Xubuntu on that Notebook from Desktop CD, will it mess up my HDD | |
| <Caraibes> -why ? | |
| <Caraibes> -do you dual-boot ? | |
| <npster> I am installing it to the whole HDD | |
| <Caraibes> then no problem whatsoever | |
| <Caraibes> if it screws up, just restart the process... | |
| <Caraibes> but take the time to download the correct version | |
| <npster> Yes but if it crashes, and it crashes on the same spot all the time then I'll have to PANIC ? | |
| <Caraibes> hardware problems, then... sorry... | |
| <npster> The problem is that I don't know how to work with the alternative | |
| <Caraibes> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/ | |
| <Caraibes> alternate install cd | |
| <npster> is it with GUI | |
| <Caraibes> google it ! | |
| <Caraibes> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ | |
| <Caraibes> this is where you find help | |
| <Caraibes> read that : | |
| <Caraibes> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/06/meet_the_newest_member_of_the.html | |
| <npster> That doesn't help much, and that isn't the notebook | |
| <hugz> whats the problem your having? | |
| <Caraibes> sorry, you will have to do some more homework on your own... ;) | |
| <npster> The main problem is that I am scared from non GUI installations. | |
| <npster> I am scred that I'll mess something up | |
| <npster> scared | |
| <hugz> its really simple, if your at all familure with and *ubuntu setups, its very minimal work text based or gui based | |
| <hugz> i dont think there is anything to mess up honestly | |
| <npster> No I am not familiar with Ubuntu setups, I have installed Knoppix and Xubuntu from GUI Live CDs | |
| <hugz> the same questions are asked just in text form and not the gui | |
| <npster> OK | |
| <npster> Then I'm cool | |
| <npster> I'll download that alternative in about three hours | |
| <hugz> its really simple | |
| <deathlypallor> anyone able to help with a missing desktop? | |
| <TheSheep> deathlypallor: sure, alt+f2, type xfdesktop | |
| <deathlypallor> 'lo aq | |
| <aquarius_work> lo :) | |
| <aquarius_work> are the helpful people here fixing the problem/ | |
| <aquarius_work> ? | |
| <deathlypallor> and thanks thesheep, it has returned | |
| <deathlypallor> still no joy with the applications button though | |
| <TheSheep> deathlypallor: your menu is gone? | |
| <deathlypallor> it doesn't drop down | |
| <TheSheep> deathlypallor: cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/ | |
| <TheSheep> deathlypallor: and upgrade your menu editor | |
| <aquarius_work> TheSheep: is there an newer version in dapper-upgrades? | |
| <TheSheep> aquarius_work: newer than on cd, yes | |
| <TheSheep> aquarius_work: newer than yesterday -- no | |
| <aquarius_work> :) | |
| <aquarius_work> deathlypallor's box was built from a cd about six weeks ago, because I did it. :) | |
| <deathlypallor> thesheep, I've upgraded the menu editor | |
| <deathlypallor> thesheep, all working fine now, thanks for your help | |
| <tribe_> i'm now at the point where i don't get a grub error but the system hangs on "GRUB loading, please wait...", any ideas anyone? :) | |
| <odat> hi everyone | |
| <tribe_> hi | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> yo | |
| <odat> sup | |
| <odat> whats everyone up to/ | |
| <JackONeill> Sorry to say this but I've gone back to gnome :P lol | |
| <JackONeill> I'm still using Thunar tho! | |
| *** ThunderStruck is now known as gnomefreak | |
| * somerville32 yawns. | |
| <cowmilk> hELLO, DO you think Flash (macromedia) uses so much resources that this is why it isn't included with Xubuntu ? | |
| <cowmilk> Because I need to view some webpages that uses flash | |
| <cowmilk> but I don't want my old box slowing down too much | |
| <cowmilk> by comp is p3 500 mHz, 256 mb Ram | |
| <cowmilk> what do you guys think? | |
| <somerville32> I have a 333 w/ 128mb of ram | |
| <somerville32> And I have Flash | |
| <TheSheep> cowmilk: no, it's not resources, it's rather the fact that it's proprietary software | |
| <somerville32> But I use Kubuntu | |
| <cowmilk> TheSheep: i see | |
| <cowmilk> i guess i have no choice but to download it | |
| <TheSheep> cowmilk: you can install it, e.x. using easybuntu | |
| <cowmilk> I'm going to follow the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225592&highlight=xubuntu+flash | |
| <cowmilk> maybe post number 5 or 6 | |
| <tribe_> anyone have ideas on how to install lilo on xubuntu? ;) | |
| <TheSheep> tribe_: sudo apt-get install lilo | |
| <TheSheep> tribe_: then edit /etc/lilo.conf to suit your config, and run sudo lilo | |
| <tribe_> TheSheep: yeah i know that part already :) | |
| <tribe_> the editing lilo.conf part is where i fail | |
| <TheSheep> man lilo.con | |
| <TheSheep> f | |
| <TheSheep> tribe_: why do you need lilo? | |
| <tribe_> grub won't boot | |
| <TheSheep> tribe_: then you can choose lilo instead of grub during instalation | |
| <tribe_> is that possible with the desktop live cd? | |
| <TheSheep> tribe_: dunno, I used the alternate cd | |
| <tribe_> didn't find anything like that in the livecd atleast | |
| <TheSheep> tribe_: are you using xfs ? | |
| <tribe_> no | |
| <tribe_> or am i? =D ... whatever is the default, ext3 is what i thought it was atleast | |
| <TheSheep> weird | |
| <TheSheep> why woudn't grub boot then? | |
| <tribe_> dunno | |
| <tribe_> doesn't give an error message | |
| <tribe_> just hangs in the loading part | |
| <tribe_> possibly because my bios is too old | |
| <cowmilk> so how do you guys recommend installing Macromedia Flash? | |
| <tribe_> didn't it come with an installer or something? | |
| <ExxxoN> u mean the flash-player plugin, that is explained at the plugin download page | |
| <Malnilion> Anybody ever had problems with the Xubuntu installer mysteriously failing during the partition setup portion? | |
| <crimsun> are you using the point release? | |
| <Malnilion> Point? | |
| <Malnilion> I downloaded the edgy iso from yesterday. | |
| <Malnilion> That's all I know. | |
| <crimsun> 6.06.1? | |
| <Malnilion> Well, I believe I downloaded whatever the latest is. | |
| <crimsun> will you please check? It'll save us all time. | |
| <Malnilion> I got whatever this is: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20060811/edgy-desktop-i386.iso | |
| <crimsun> uh, that's Edgy | |
| <ExxxoN> I experienced several crashes of the install tool too | |
| <crimsun> that's _not_ what you want unless you're comfortable with breakage, since that's our dev branch | |
| <Malnilion> Hmmm, okay, I'll go ahead and install the point release. | |
| <Malnilion> Is it possible to upgrade to bleeding edge packages? | |
| <Malnilion> Meh, I'll figure it all out, I just wanted to make sure it was a known problem. | |
| <crimsun> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/ | |
| <crimsun> please don't use edgy (6.10) unless you know full well what you're getting into :-) | |
| <Malnilion> Indeed. | |
| <ExxxoN> What is that "nvidia-kernel" skript in /etc/init.d that is started at boot by default? I don't have any Nvidia Hardware, so can I disable it? | |
| <crimsun> ExxxoN: it effectively does nothing if you don't actually have Nvidia hardware | |
| <ExxxoN> Thx... and what is "laptop-mode" for? | |
| <crimsun> if you're like me and enjoy purging unnecessary stuff, you can just remove the nvidia-kernel-common package, but be aware that will force removal of l-r-m-$(uname -r), too | |
| <crimsun> laptop-mode is essentially a set of query/configuration scripts for laptops | |
| <crimsun> think HD spindown, CPU freq throttling, etc. | |
| <Malnilion> Laptop-mode sounds like a good thing :) | |
| <crimsun> if you have a laptop, certainly :-) | |
| <ExxxoN> so I don't need it with my old AMD XP, I think it doesn't support throttling | |
| <crimsun> again, it's a noop if your hardware doesn't support it | |
| <ExxxoN> ok ;) | |
| <Malnilion> You know, the edgy iso is a bit fat to be put on a CD anyway. | |
| <crimsun> "fat"? | |
| <Malnilion> Yeah, 723 mb. | |
| <Gloubiboulga> yes, the desktop cd is oversized | |
| <crimsun> yep, go langpack asplode | |
| <Gloubiboulga> and gnome dependencies :) | |
| <crimsun> sigh :-) | |
| <ExxxoN> crimsun, what does "readahead" & "readahead-desktop" do? | |
| <crimsun> ExxxoN: hint: apt-cache show readahead readahead-desktop | |
| <crimsun> :-) | |
| <crimsun> (in this case, just ``apt-cache show readahead'') | |
| <ExxxoN> oh well, I'll do ;) | |
| <ExxxoN> nice package | |
| <ExxxoN> it does what it sounds like ;) | |
| <crimsun> hmm | |
| <crimsun> We never edited the wiki page for 6.06.1 | |
| <crimsun> 9oops) | |
| <TheSheep> I wonder if it was possible to make a screenshot at logout and then show that screenshot instead of splash screen :) | |
| <Malnilion> It'd be funny if someone made a Bubuntu for blackbox lovers :) | |
| <torch> yeah totally | |
| <TheSheep> Malnilion: what would be the difference from xubuntu, apart from different wm? | |
| <Malnilion> I was mainly referring to the name of the release ;) | |
| <crimsun> Malnilion: feel free to. That's the ultimate goal of *buntu. | |
| <TheSheep> ah, name | |
| <TheSheep> hmm... the 'Balou' splash screen has theme selector. where do I put the themes for it? | |
| <Malnilion> Why isn't the "point" release linked on the main page of the Xubuntu site? | |
| <Malnilion> Or on the wiki downloads page. | |
| <BlueEagle> malnilion: Are you talking about the development version? | |
| <Gloubiboulga> Malnilion, fell free to add it on the wiki page :) | |
| <crimsun> Malnilion: I just corrected all that | |
| * Gloubiboulga hugs crimsun :) | |
| <Malnilion> Good stuff :) | |
| <crimsun> 14:53 < crimsun> We never edited the wiki page for 6.06.1 | |
| <crimsun> 14:53 < crimsun> 9oops) | |
| <crimsun> ^^ hence that | |
| <BlueEagle> ahh | |
| <Gloubiboulga> crimsun, can you edit the xubuntu.org site too, or only Jonathan can do that? | |
| <crimsun> Gloubiboulga: I can't do that | |
| <Gloubiboulga> I'll try ping highvoltage | |
| <crimsun> thanks :) | |
| <Gloubiboulga> i've not seen him on IRC recently | |
| * TheSheep puts a screenshot in his splashscreen | |
| <TheSheep> now it will *seem* eaven faster! :) | |
| <ExxxoN> TheSheep, you waste loading time for the real desktop ;) | |
| <npster> I have a Notebook 32MB ram and p2 can I use Xubuntu there? | |
| <npster> help | |
| <TheSheep> ExxxoN: no, because it always takes me several seconds to grab the keyboard/mouse and decide what to do anyways -- I can do it earlier now | |
| <TheSheep> the only problem is that the clock is wrong :P | |
| <ExxxoN> TheSheep, i was just kidding, take the time u need ;) | |
| <npster> Can use Xubuntu on 32MB of ram | |
| <TheSheep> npster: yes, but I woudn't count on using the graphical interface too much | |
| <crimsun> you can, but it will be very, very painful. | |
| <npster> how painful ? | |
| <ExxxoN> better be without X, just console | |
| <npster> then what OS (linux) should I use on it ? | |
| <npster> what is the fun in that | |
| <ExxxoN> i don't know if waiting all day long is fun | |
| <TheSheep> npster: doesn't matter, all linuces are roughly the same. it's just too low ram for running X | |
| <npster> I tought that xubuntu was for "low-end" machines | |
| <TheSheep> npster: you can have it pretty useful with mc, elinks, mutt, etc. | |
| <TheSheep> npster: no it isn;'t | |
| <npster> the Xfce made it that way | |
| <TheSheep> npster: be honest, even windows 95 will be slow as hell on this, and it's not even a real operating system | |
| <npster> on that notebook I have 98 installed and it is pretty normal in speed | |
| <crimsun> it's actually quite usable on 32 if you tweak the options | |
| <crimsun> like 16-bit color depth, disable DRI, etc. | |
| <npster> now Windows 98 is one of the stupidest OSs in the world, with good heavy graphics and the notebook handles it well | |
| <TheSheep> npster: maybe we just have higher standards about what speed is acceptable, better just try it and decide yourself | |
| <npster> If I try it then the whole HDD gets deleted, and if it doesn't work, bye bye | |
| <TheSheep> npster: how so? | |
| <npster> I don't need Windows | |
| <npster> I want the whole HDD for Xubuntu | |
| <npster> it is not big just 4GB | |
| <TheSheep> you can delete windows later, when you decide | |
| <TheSheep> you need about 1.5G at most | |
| <npster> The reqirements for 98 is 16MB | |
| <TheSheep> npster: yes, but that doesn;t include the applications :) | |
| <TheSheep> npster: barebones linux fits on a floppy | |
| <npster> i ment RAM | |
| <npster> I wnat one with a GUI | |
| <npster> I don't really trust those Linuxes | |
| <TheSheep> npster: yeah, they are sneaky | |
| <TheSheep> npster: don't trust, check! | |
| <TheSheep> see for yourself | |
| <npster> they have weird names | |
| <npster> and no websites | |
| <npster> scary... | |
| <TheSheep> what's the point of freedom when people come and ask what to do anyways, doh | |
| <npster> duh* | |
| <TheSheep> doh | |
| <TheSheep> I'm free to use any onomatopeia I want | |
| <npster> yes you are | |
| <TheSheep> bingeleybingeleybeep | |
| <npster> i can't read that :) | |
| <npster> is there any possibility for using a SWAP for Xubuntu there, like added Virtual Memory | |
| <TheSheep> npster: sure, that's why it will be slow -- hdd is much slower than ram | |
| <TheSheep> npster: that's what this 'swap' partition you create when installing is for | |
| <npster> How about that OLPC red hat they are going to use on OLPC laptops ? | |
| <npster> does someone knows where to download that | |
| <npster> OLPC = One Laptop Per Child | |
| <ruoho> hi | |
| <TheSheep> npster: they use specially tweaked system, with custom applications and all | |
| <ruoho> can anyone tell me what this means? -> Xubuntu is also included, although commercial support for it is not available from Canonical Ltd | |
| <TheSheep> npster: you can customize your xubuntu a little too, as crimsun said | |
| <npster> but how | |
| <ruoho> it refers to 6.0.6.1 ... | |
| <npster> i need to read a WiKi | |
| <TheSheep> ruoho: this means that you can't pay Canonical Ltd to fix your xubuntu :) | |
| <crimsun> ruoho: it means you can't get support from the core developers by purchasing a support contract from Canonical | |
| <ruoho> why does it say that only for xubuntu?! | |
| <crimsun> from the Canonical-employed core developers, that is | |
| <crimsun> it says that because Xfce is currently wholly community-supported | |
| <crimsun> sorry, Xubuntu, not Xfce | |
| <TheSheep> it means it Ours, not Theirs ;) | |
| <ruoho> aha | |
| <ruoho> kinda makes sense | |
| <TheSheep> any idea why would xubuntu-mcs-manager take almost 100 megs of ram (virtual) ? | |
| <npster> How do I strip Xubuntu down so It can run on 32 | |
| <TheSheep> 21:17 < crimsun> it's actually quite usable on 32 if you tweak the options | |
| <TheSheep> 21:17 < crimsun> like 16-bit color depth, disable DRI, etc. | |
| <npster> what is DRI ? | |
| <ruoho> digital rendering input | |
| <crimsun> npster: a Web search engine (or gopher if that's your thing) will reveal | |
| <TheSheep> somethingfor mapping your video memory to your ram directly, not sure | |
| <ruoho> maybe | |
| <TheSheep> wow, gopher, anybody still remembers it :) | |
| <somerville32> lol | |
| <somerville32> :) | |
| <npster> 16-bit isn't so bad | |
| <npster> it is like normal, I don't see any differece | |
| <TheSheep> npster: unless you see large areas with gradients there is no noticeable difference | |
| <npster> ? | |
| <TheSheep> npster: try a gradient on your background, for exmaple | |
| <TheSheep> npster: you will see stripes | |
| <npster> gradient | |
| <npster> oh I get that sometimes on 32 bit | |
| <TheSheep> that's because people can;t really distinguish that many colors, but will distinguish color differences if close by | |
| <npster> how do I switch DRI off and stuff | |
| <npster> and tell me what to change | |
| <TheSheep> npster: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf | |
| <npster> ok | |
| <ruoho> just comment it | |
| <TheSheep> npster: remove the line that says 'dri' from modules section | |
| <ruoho> all the dri lines | |
| <npster> ok | |
| <npster> and restart X | |
| <TheSheep> npster: and set the default-depth line to 16 not 24 | |
| <npster> ok | |
| <Tune> help, I can't listen to MP3 on my Xubuntu | |
| <TheSheep> !mp3 > Tune | |
| <ruoho> install libxine-extracodecs | |
| <ruoho> and open with xfmedia | |
| <Tune> Tnx!!! | |
| <npster> there you go | |
| <npster> TheSheep: And that should do it ? | |
| <TheSheep> npster: it will improve things a little | |
| <TheSheep> npster: you can also limit the amount of memory that firefox uses, or just use a lighter web browser | |
| <ruoho> does anyone else find that (x)ubuntu behaves slow? | |
| <TheSheep> ruoho: no, nobody else runs it on 32 megs of ram :) | |
| <npster> TheSheep: How do I do that > | |
| <npster> ? | |
| <ruoho> i dint mean about npster TheSheep .. | |
| <ruoho> switching between windows takes 1 sec here | |
| <TheSheep> ruoho: run top and see what's using all the cpu | |
| <ruoho> i dont think i was here at the time | |
| <npster> I quit ! | |
| <TheSheep> ruoho: ? | |
| * TheSheep gives up and goes to sleep | |
| <ExxxoN> good night @ TheSheep | |
| <ccureau> Is there an easy way to convert from regular ubuntu to xubuntu? i.e., apps to remove, etc? | |
| <crimsun> JackONeill: do want assistance with the sound issue or not? Just pastebin your ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' output. | |
| <JackONeill> ccureau, you want to install xubuntu-desktop | |
| <JackONeill> that will give you all you need :P | |
| <ccureau> JackONeill: I did that. :) I just wanted to remove some of the other heavier apps | |
| <JackONeill> Then just remove them :P synaptic ought to be able to do the job | |
| <ExxxoN> does anybody know when kernel 2.6.16.x will be available for dapper drake? | |
| <crimsun> ExxxoN: it won't. | |
| <crimsun> ccureau: do you want to remove most of gnome? | |
| <ccureau> crimsun: I'd like to, yes | |
| <ExxxoN> so i'll have to compile it on my own? | |
| <crimsun> ExxxoN: if you choose so, yes. | |
| <ccureau> crimsun: If 2.6.16.x won't be available, what about 2.6.17? I have a usb-serial adapter whose driver is in .17 | |
| <crimsun> ccureau: then start by removing libbonobo\* and libgnomeui\* | |
| <crimsun> no, no new kernels. | |
| <ccureau> hmmmm.... | |
| <crimsun> you're always free to compile your own kernel, or you can dist-upgrade to Edgy if you're willing to help test the dev branch | |
| <ccureau> I guess I'll have to compile my own 2.6.17. I guess that's ubu's supporting for three years? | |
| <JackONeill> crimsun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/r0qc6r92.html | |
| <Tun1> Help, How can I configure my keyboard for spanish??? | |
| <crimsun> ccureau: 2.6.15+patches is what is in 6.06.1 LTS | |
| <crimsun> ccureau: 2.6.17+patches is what is in 6.10 | |
| <ccureau> Hmmm...so how do I get 6.10? | |
| <ccureau> forgive my ignorance. :) | |
| <ExxxoN> where can I get information about what patches have been included in the kernel? | |
| <crimsun> JackONeill: thank you. There are two ways to reset the mixer levels to default: You can either use the shorter (but less foolproof) method, which is ``sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset'', or you can use the foolproof method (which requires more legwork) | |
| <JackONeill> Well if I am to do your legwork method I would appeciate you not mixing code with comments | |
| <JackONeill> It makes things very confusing | |
| * JackONeill goes to alsa | |
| <crimsun> JackONeill: it was impossible to do that without your lsmod output | |
| <ruoho> ccureau: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage-xubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-1/ | |
| <ruoho> its testing | |
| <ccureau> ruoho: gotcha...I can dist-upgrade to Edge. :) | |
| <ccureau> Edgy, even | |
| <ruoho> ok come back to report the results afterwards | |
| <Tun1> Help, How can I configure my keyboard for spanish?? | |
| <narvik86> are torrents file broken? i can't download xubuntu by torrent | |
| <Raito> How come when I make an alias with the alias command the effects are gone when I open a new terminal? | |
| <narvik86> nevermind now it works :) | |
| *** Jack is now known as JackONeill | |
| *** naa is now known as tarch | |
| <ExxxoN> Raito, u have to edit the file ".bashrc" in your homedirectory, there is a section with outcommented aliases, add yours there and you'll save your aliases for every terminal session | |
| <Raito> ExxxoN: Thanks | |
| <Raito> ExxxoN: it says something about .bash_aliases Do I need to add anything to .bashrc to have it detect the aliases in .bash_aliases? | |
| <Raito> ExxxoN: it says something about .bash_aliases Do I need to add anything to .bashrc to have it detect the aliases in .bash_aliases? (Sorry for double posting, but it seems ExxxoN disconnected) | |
| <ExxxoN> no, just edit the .bashrc | |
| <Raito> I know you can do that, but uhh, it would be more organised in a different file >_< | |
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| <ExxxoN> ok, sorry, yes u can use the .bashrc_aliases file for your aliases of course | |
| <Raito> ExxoN: But do I need to add anything to .bashrc to detect it? Also do I need to put some wierd line at the top of .bash_aliases? like #!/bin/bash or something? | |
| <Tune> Help!!!! my aplications menu is gone!!!!!!!!!! | |
| <ExxxoN> Raito, I tried with .bash_profile and .bash_aliases with no luck, .bashrc works great | |
| <ExxxoN> I'm new to this too, but google should help further | |
| <Raito> Oh, I'll just do what works then. Thanks for your help. | |
| <ompaul> Tune, firstly have you logged out and back in? | |
| <Raito> Tune: Oh that happened to me, uhh I can't remember exactly what I did, but I think it had something to do with xfce4desktop or something. Oh! I remember, you copy the default menu from wherever they keep it (sorry, I can't remember) and put it into the one in some hidden folder in /home. I hope this helps someone ring a bell. | |
| <Tune> ompaul:yep several times, and made restart and shutdown | |
| <Tune> Raito, thnx | |
| <Raito> Tune: Sorry, I know someone in this channel (I think The_Sheep) knows | |
| <ompaul> gnomefreak, .. oi! have a look at that . file entry quesiton by tune please :) | |
| <npster> !webcam | |
| <gnomefreak> ok give me 2 secs | |
| <gnomefreak> npster: the bot is dead in all channels | |
| <npster> easycam doesn't work | |
| <npster> how do I fix that | |
| <ompaul> Tune, sorry, I normally use gnome, I have a box here with xfce on it but it needs several things like power, network cable monitor and keyboard / mouse sorry dude - | |
| <gnomefreak> you dont | |
| <gnomefreak> ok whats up? | |
| <Tune> ompaul: It's Ok | |
| <ompaul> gnomefreak, tune managed to delete his apps menu have you a recovery for it | |
| <npster> My webcam is automatically called from the OS to get activated. Easycam 2 doesn't detect it, and easycam takes ages | |
| <gnomefreak> Tune: did you delete it? or did it stop working? | |
| <npster> how do I activate it ? | |
| <gnomefreak> ompaul: can you get npster the webcam wiki please | |
| <ompaul> gnomefreak, yes | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> The menu config file is in ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/ | |
| <gnomefreak> ty | |
| <Raito> What is wrong with this alias? alias sda6='cd /media/sda6'? I can get it to work if I type it in an open terminal, but on bashrc it doesn't and gives me some error about how it is an invalid alias name | |
| <ompaul> npster just a sec | |
| <Tune> gnomefreak: It doesn't work, I tried to edit It and It's empty | |
| <gnomefreak> Tune: delete the above file and log out and back in (you might have to do it from tty) | |
| <gnomefreak> Tune: this is dapper? | |
| <ompaul> npster, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam | |
| <Tune> wait | |
| * gnomefreak waits | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> The backup menu config file is in /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/ | |
| <ompaul> ding ding :-) all ashore thats going ashore | |
| <Tune> gnomefreak: U mean /.config/xfce4/desktop/??? | |
| <ExxxoN> Raito, use " " , not ' ' | |
| <Raito> ExxxoN: ok, but ' worked for alias home='cd ~' O_O | |
| <gnomefreak> Tune: yes | |
| <ExxxoN> uhh | |
| <gnomefreak> Tune: delete is log out and back in if not fixed please kill X and do it from tty | |
| <gnomefreak> than log into xfce again | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> Or just replace ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml with /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml. | |
| <Raito> ExxxoN: also what is wrong with alias mv='mv -i' ?? alias rm='rm -i' works O_O, something is weird | |
| <Tune> Ok, I'm gonna try tnx for everything PuMpErNiCkLe an gnomefreak | |
| <ExxxoN> Raito, I dunno ^^ this is strange | |
| <Raito> T_T, the odd thing is that those aliases all work when I do it in a terminal and not .bashrc, does anyone else know? | |
| <npster> What is the program for viewing the webcam picture ? | |
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| <ExxxoN> Raito, have u closed the terminal before trying the new aliases? | |
| <Raito> ExxxoN: yes | |
| <npster> What program should I use to view my webcam ? | |
| <ExxxoN> dumb question, I know but sometimes... | |
| <cowmilk> i downloaded an .swf file . | |
| <cowmilk> how do i play it? | |
| <cowmilk> can xfmedia? | |
| <ExxxoN> nope | |
| <cowmilk> what can? | |
| <ExxxoN> your browser with installed plugin should | |
| <cowmilk> ExxxoN: i currently can't install flash | |
| <cowmilk> can you please help me get one piece of info from a site? | |
| <ExxxoN> give me the link | |
| <cowmilk> ExxxoN: litaquatics.com | |
| <cowmilk> please find non-flash pages | |
| <ExxxoN> this site sucks | |
| <cowmilk> ExxxoN: yeah | |
| <cowmilk> ExxxoN: i found my answer: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&hs=Avz&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=%22www.litaquatics.com%22 | |
| <Tune> gnomefreak and PuMpErNiCkLe: Tnx a lot my app menu is runing now, used Thunar to get it done, and it worked, even as the end user, think on sending the sugerences to the ubuntu dev. team | |
| <ompaul> sugerences ? | |
| <ExxxoN> good night u all | |
| <eimajenthat> hi, can I hotswap my pcmcia wireless card in xubuntu? | |
| <Tune> ompaul: I've fix my app menu tnx |