<siccness> Hey Fujitsu!
<Fujitsu> Hi siccness.
<Kamping_Kaiser> hm. cant download the filterset.g file.
* Kamping_Kaiser slaps website
<quail> hello
<quail> i got my usb kvm switch today :-D
<Kamping_Kaiser> heh. as you do
* Kamping_Kaiser got a UPS today - good for 750 watt
<Kamping_Kaiser> so i can put 3 or 4 boxes on it :D
<Phlosten_> neat
<purserj> Okay all three segments from wednesday night are now available. http://www.localfoss.org
<Phlosten_> ah bugger, forgot about that
<Phlosten_> purserj, did it go good?
<Kamping_Kaiser> purserj, cool. *will try and remember to download them sometime*
<quail> woot my usb kvm works great :-)
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, :)
<purserj> Phlosten_, it could have been better. Next week is going to be a hundred percent better
<Phlosten_> excellent, I will try my best to tune in
<Kamping_Kaiser> purserj, will you always be running them wed. night?
<ajmitch> cafuego: sounds like you have a fanclub now
* cafuego is on a higher plain of being now
<ajmitch> heh
<ajmitch> and I just do boring things like fix bugs & package new stuff
* cafuego does too, just not stuff that's allowed in the main repos.
* ajmitch just updated f-spot & tomboy, and xgl a week or so ago
<ajmitch> and nobody cares :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<cafuego> Did you include the image autorotate on export to gallery patch in f-spot?
<ajmitch> haven't done that one yet
* cafuego fails to hug you, then ;-)
<ajmitch> been grabbing patches from CVS to fix importing rotated images
<ajmitch> bug #?
<cafuego> Dunno, I did a custom f-spot with the patch included...
<ajmitch> then do you have the patch available?
<cafuego> Was googling and stumbled across it.
<cafuego> yah
<cafuego> hold on
<ajmitch> if you don't have a bug number or patch, I can't even begin to care :)
<ajmitch> bug # is always preferred
<cafuego> Nono, it wasn't a bug.
<ajmitch> it should be
<ajmitch> any requests for stuff to be done to the package should be in malone at least
* cafuego was googling for gallery support and came a cross a patch that someone ahd written
<ajmitch> any patches upstream go on gnome bugzilla
<cafuego> if I hadn't seen that, i wouldn't have cared
<cafuego> Hmm, looks like I didn't even push it tomy repo.
<cafuego> shall I mail you teh patch or malone it?
<ajmitch> malone
<ajmitch> otherwise it gets lost
* bimberi thinks malone, or ajmitch won't 'begin to care' ;)
<ajmitch> bimberi: pretty much
<cafuego> bimberi: while (1); do uuencode patch patch | mail ajmitch@...; sleep 10; done ;-)
<cafuego> he'll care
<ajmitch> if I'm lucky it'll be on gnome bugzilla already
* ajmitch tweaks .procmailrc
<bimberi> lol
<ajmitch> bug 55972?
<cafuego> yep
<cafuego> pattached
<ajmitch> ok, searching bugzilla
<ajmitch> we'll see if it can search patches
<cafuego> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/f-spot-list/2006-April/msg00016.html
<ajmitch> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165645
<ajmitch> the bug has updated patch
<cafuego> 'k
<ajmitch> I'll talk to sde when I see him next & ask about the patch
<ajmitch> cafuego: the issue isn't that f-spot unrotates, but that it doesn't rotate - the images are stored unrotated with an EXIF marker to indicate orientation
<Kamping_Kaiser> now the big question: do i try and make a mirror of debian sparc :/, or try nd get the bits i need
<cafuego> ajmitch: Well, end-user wise that's much of a muchness.
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: node up to date yet?
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, yes, and syncing regularly as well. thanks
<ajmitch> Kamping_Kaiser: any good reason to do a full mirror?
<cafuego> ooher
<Kamping_Kaiser> ajmitch, i dont have any partial mirrors, just full ones
<Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu (binar,y, i386)dapper, breezy, hoary, debian alpha (all, binary)
<Kamping_Kaiser> now i'm thinking about sparc - mirroring at 256k/s
<ajmitch> do you have unmetered traffic for mirroring?
<cafuego> ajmitch: Yeah, the internode mirror holds debian/ubuntu and a few others, it's great (and free).
* cafuego has pulled the ISOs down and is open wifi'ing those at home now.
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, it has hte major debian stuff, but not things like alpha
<Kamping_Kaiser> and only sparc packages, not install cds :/
<cafuego> Hmmyeah, but how many node subscribers would have an alpha at home?
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: packages/cds -> jigdo
<Kamping_Kaiser> i have 2!
<cafuego> Freak!
<Kamping_Kaiser> :o
<Kamping_Kaiser> tehres 50 registered debian users with sparcs! i'm not one (yet)
<Kamping_Kaiser> so therese > 51 of us ;)
<cafuego> All up. 2% of thsoe use Node. Hmm.
<Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
<cafuego> Yeah, I don't think they need to justify using 8Gb of mirror space to service only you ;-)
<cafuego> Of course, if *I* had one too, that would be different
<cafuego> nudge nudge
<Kamping_Kaiser> its 12 gig - of binaries
<cafuego> hold on, bleeding, bbiab
<Kamping_Kaiser> er... k....
<cafuego> ca
<cafuego> cat
<ajmitch> heh
<cafuego> unfortunate tendency to walk up me; using claws.
<ajmitch> cats are great like that
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol :s
<cafuego> wouldn't matter so much if he wasn't a fat little bugger ;-)
* Kamping_Kaiser declares counter.li useless, as i cant find th number of alpha users
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: There are none in there, that's why!
<Kamping_Kaiser> mines in there!
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: mail him; get a page listing arches.
<Kamping_Kaiser> http://counter.li.org/reports/ shows intel+amd then "otehr" - 60% is in 'other'
<cafuego> yes, make them split it
<Kamping_Kaiser> mmm
<cafuego> x86, x86_64, ppc, ppc64, sparc, uml (!!!), alpha
<Kamping_Kaiser> uml? :S
<cafuego> why not? :-)
<cafuego> it's an arch, graph it.
* Kamping_Kaiser researches
<cafuego> user-mde-linux
<Kamping_Kaiser> thats not an arch as such :/
<cafuego> well
* adhoc is downloading an ISO from the ubuntu site with 19 hours to go =(
<cafuego> adhoc: may i recommend torrent?
<adhoc> cafuego: i can from work
<adhoc> and it worries me not
<adhoc> i'll be down by monday
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: It's not one that should be counted in the over-all stats, but having some info on it wuld be nice.
<Kamping_Kaiser> 19hours? wtf are you doin ghtere adhoc o_0
<cafuego> deathmatch gnuchess!
<Kamping_Kaiser> ah, yeh, thats a bandwidth hog :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, i cleared the passwordon the SS10 :)
<adhoc> ok cool
<Kamping_Kaiser> hot swap rom action ;)
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: 6.06.1
<Kamping_Kaiser> then 'setenv security-mode off'
<adhoc> their site is being hammered
<Kamping_Kaiser> ah of course
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, jigdo it ;)
* Kamping_Kaiser wants to laern that
* Kamping_Kaiser learns how to setup a rarp server
<cafuego> Much like dhcp/tftp/bootp i'd hazard.
<cafuego> echo "option rarp true;" >> dhcpd.conf ;-)
<praetorian> /z 32
<praetorian> whoops
<Kamping_Kaiser> http://www.au.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch04s04.html.en
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, yes, its very similar
* cafuego did some fiddling with tftp the other day and has macs and x86 pxebooting now
<Kamping_Kaiser> yay, mroe up to date doco - talking about 2.2/2.,4 kernels
* Kamping_Kaiser has some thin clietns he got tftp booting a whilue back
<Kamping_Kaiser> not played with them since
<cafuego> On my laptop I can even rebuild grub and make that pxeboot directly.
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Planning to take a couple of coloured old G3 iMacs as thin clients to SFD here
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, cool. didnt know they netbooted
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: all macs (hold down 'n')
<cafuego> all pci ppc macs anyway
* Kamping_Kaiser forgets, but thanks for telling ;)
<cafuego> you're most welcome!
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> this is silly: i have to netboot d-i, then network install, then find i messed up, and reinstall :/.
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'm still working on step 1
<Kamping_Kaiser> er... wheres /etc/init.d/inetd gone to ?
<Kamping_Kaiser> :S
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Did you install inetd? ;-)
<cafuego> inetutils-inetd prolly
<cafuego> actually
<noiesmo> quail, hey I have got a response from shipit they are going to ensure my order is here in time for software freedom day :)
<cafuego> noiesmo: excellent news!
<noiesmo> cafuego, thanks
<noiesmo> cafuego, yes it is now to get fellow humbug memebers to help on the day and were all go
<cafuego> noiesmo: Chocolate and physical voilence works.
<noiesmo> cafuego, :0
<Kamping_Kaiser> :D
<noiesmo> cafuego, i've already been on to them thru the mailing list and it seems positive
<noiesmo> now to find a venue/location to go to
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<cafuego> 50 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-07-26
<cafuego> of 300...
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, know the feeling
<noiesmo> what locations do people here think would be good ie shopping mail computer markets uni
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, just discovered why we werwe having dhcp issues at svlug - i had 2 servers running...
<purserj> yeah that would do it
<noiesmo> I'm going to a novell suse presentation on tuesday I should take some cd's a mates got along
<purserj> We had that problem at WIN. All of a sudden people would start dropping off the network with wierd IP addresses. Turns out our comms guy was testing dlink ADSL modems and forgetting to switch off the DHCP server
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<purserj> Had it happen enough times that when people started dropping off, first thing we'd do would be to call comms guy and tell him to turn off his modem
<Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
* Kamping_Kaiser has 2 servers running now. hope they dont conflict - i want this sparc to get its ip from the right place
<cafuego> purserj: <heh>
* Kamping_Kaiser has no inetd.... does edgy exist at all? *puts hand through pc*, apparently not...
<quail> afternoon all
<Kamping_Kaiser> hey quail
<manicka> afternoon :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> hey manicka
<manicka> howdy :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<quail> how are we all?
<noiesmo> goos thanks quail
<manicka> long day at work... but it is Friday :)
<noiesmo> s/goos/good
<quail> kewl
* quail loving his new belkin usb kvm, it works very well :-)
<Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, ping? i was wondering if you had a 'one month to SFD' type email i could send out to the itshare main list?
<Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, perhaps you and quail could do one jointly
<quail> here is the kvm i bought >>> http://ddcc.didata.com.au/Products/DBProductDetails.asp?ITEM_ID=XF1DK102U
<Kamping_Kaiser> can anyone downlaod this file? http://www.pierceive.com.nyud.net:8090/filtersetg/2006-06-04a.txt
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders if his proxy is bening funny, or their server
<cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Their server
<pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: syn ack
<cafuego> source-quench
<Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, hey
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, thanks
<pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Just got in.. will be leaving again soon for dinner though.
<pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Good idea about the announcement ..
<pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm a little under the weather at the moment (flu like symtoms) but I'll see what I can come up with tomorrow morning.
<Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, have fun at dinner - i was just going to send an email out, then thought it might be nice to have an 'offical' notice to forward on
<pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: I'll be around Mawson Lakes tomorrow morning if anyone wants to come and have a look at the venue (pass it on).
<Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, i'll be catching up with tafe work ;),, but ok, if anyone asks i'll let them know
<siccness> whutup!
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, avoiding tafe ;)
<siccness> me too
<siccness> i decided the best way to do so was the pub
<siccness> damn good choice too
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol. good call
<siccness> im questioning whether i settle down, or crack a bourbon open
<Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, what you doing tomorroww?
<siccness> pub
<siccness> lol
<cafuego> whoops, the ssl mail certificate expires tomorrow
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, :S
<siccness> forget pub crawls, just join me on a weekend
<Kamping_Kaiser> bugger. the power button on sun comps only turn them on, not off
<siccness> Heh
<cafuego> What did you expect, acpi? ;-)
<siccness> I must connect the rest of my buttons/leds
<Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, i expect it to work both ways ;)
<siccness> like a bi... :P
<Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
<Kamping_Kaiser> hm. sparc+floppy drive=nothing
* quail slaps Kamping_Kaiser with a empty sparc floopy drive
<quail> *floppy
<quail> hehe
<B4zzA> howdy folks
<B4zzA> tfif
<quail> evening
<Kamping_Kaiser> Sun floppy drives are custom, they have no eject button as the floppy is under software control like a Mac. <-bugger
<quail> haha
<quail> have fun KK
<Kamping_Kaiser> ta
*** klepas_ is now known as klepas
<quail> np mate
<Kamping_Kaiser> back after dinner
<quail> k
<noiesmo> cafuego, the people at shipit are excellent just got email confirmation of order for cd's
<adhoc> so quiet
<Kamping_Kaiser> aye, that be so
* purserj is just finishing up redirecting rss feeds
* Kamping_Kaiser asked purserj something before, but cant remember what
<purserj> never mind if it comes back to you let me know
<purserj> well thats another 500 odd visitors a day to add to localfoss
<B4zzA> :P
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<adhoc> *sigh*
<purserj> and probably 500 odd complaints about breaking rss feeds
* adhoc has forgotten how to configure apache2
<Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
* adhoc has a pair of orange dogs passed out on the stufy floor ...
<adhoc> and a sleepy lucychili reading conspiracy theory ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> rofl. adhoc thats news? ;)
<purserj> Its a slow news day
<adhoc> indeed
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, i have a very happy desk - a stack of 3 sparstations and an alpha :)... if only they all had OS's ;)
<adhoc> =)
<adhoc> i score a couple of SCA 36GB disks for my swerver
<adhoc> just need caddies to put them in
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i will look out for disks for your sparcs
* adhoc is on the hunt for wyrd scsi stuff ;)
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, some more sparc ram would be nice - and a vid. card. i only have 2 working, i pillaged the other for parts
<adhoc> don't have any sbus video
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i'll keep an eye out for ram for you?
<adhoc> sparc 5?
<Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, 5
<adhoc> sparc 5 ram us unique, not used in any other model, IIRR
<Kamping_Kaiser> the 10 has 96mb of ram, 1 5 has 64, 1 has 0
<Kamping_Kaiser> its different to the 10, thats all i know
<adhoc> i have some that might fit your 10
<adhoc> 8 x 32 IIRR
<Kamping_Kaiser> coool!
* Kamping_Kaiser is using 4 of 8 slots
<adhoc> its either for 10 or 20
* Kamping_Kaiser didnt get the 20 from linuxsa :(
<purana> sparc = sweet
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i'm downloading 6.06.1 sparc server iso at work at 1.5KB/s
<Kamping_Kaiser> heh. crazy
* Kamping_Kaiser has packages, thats good enough for now
* Kamping_Kaiser needs to remember a cmos batter for the alpha
<elkbuntu> who ran the meeting on monday?
<Kamping_Kaiser> woot. g0t alpha booting... i think.
<adhoc> hmmm lucychili ran out of swap on her peecee;
<adhoc> [5621895.410000] Out of Memory: Killed process 6277 (totem-mozilla-v).
<Kamping_Kaiser> wow
<adhoc> 1GB of RAM and 1GB of swap
<Kamping_Kaiser> wtfs she running!
<lucychili> firefox
<adhoc> firefox + totem
<elkbuntu> only ONE gig of swap?
* Kamping_Kaiser has 1 gig of swap, 50% used
<adhoc> elkbuntu: i have 8 GB of swap on my dekstop
<lucychili> ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> 409 kgoetz 15 0 282m 147m 20m S 8 29.4 9:39.51 mozilla-thunder
<Kamping_Kaiser> 30556 kgoetz 15 0 153m 61m 18m S 0 12.3 16:06.15 firefox-bin
<Kamping_Kaiser> third to last is memory
<elkbuntu> Mem: 451300k total, 439420k used, 11880k free, 10432k buffers
<elkbuntu> Swap: 3598520k total, 193120k used, 3405400k free, 104520k cached
<adhoc> hmmm
<Kamping_Kaiser> woot. the alpha lives/boots!
* adhoc stops the comparisons while he has a chance ...
<elkbuntu> firefox will suck up to 15% of my total mem/swap usage, so i've switched to opera for now
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: you get the raid working too?
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, controller? its sitting on a box here.
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'm using the native scsi controller for my discs
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: i got raid working on my ibm 4Lm controller with a couple SCA disks...
<adhoc> need another caddie and i'll have a nice box for hosting ;)
<adhoc> then i have to find somewhere to get hosting
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<adhoc> maybe APANA
* Kamping_Kaiser has to check if a hdd he found is an 18 gig or a 1.8 :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> if its 18 i'm a bit happy :)
<adhoc> 1.8 wasnt common, is it a seagate ?
<Kamping_Kaiser> yep
<adhoc> whats the model number?
<Kamping_Kaiser> er, i'll just grab it
<Kamping_Kaiser> st318275lw
* Kamping_Kaiser has a 9.1 gig quantum to check as well
<Kamping_Kaiser> much <3 if they all work
<adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser: looks like 18GB
<adhoc> what os the connector? 68pin?
<adhoc> s/os/is/
<adhoc> or 80pin SCA?
<Kamping_Kaiser> 68pin
<adhoc> ok =)
<adhoc> i might have a disk or two to through at you soon
* adhoc is doing a clean up =)
<Kamping_Kaiser> :D cool
* Kamping_Kaiser finaly has enough scsi gear he cant use it all
<adhoc> hmmm ... maybe i need to find some one who is starting to build a scsi farm ?
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, i'm trying to jam my 'servers' with scsi gear
<Kamping_Kaiser> and i have enough different stuff i cant standardise ;)
<adhoc> fair enough
* Kamping_Kaiser sort of hacks stuff together as he can
<adhoc> thats the way
* adhoc could only afford 50pin when he started with scsi!
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, i'm thinking of getting my big tower out of the back corner and filling it :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> :o
<adhoc> one size fits all
<siccness> boy the mailing list was active today
* Kamping_Kaiser should look
<siccness> man, i didnt know vmware was avail under linux
<siccness> i gotsta downloads that
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, *runs media check on drive*
<purserj> siccness, yeah I've been using it for a while now
<siccness> rock solid stable, purserj?
<purserj> yup, I'm using it right now to access an image on my desktop from my laptop across wireless and its handling it nicely
<siccness> ahh cool
<siccness> 98mb
<siccness> hmm, might wait till tafe to get it
* adhoc gets lucychili's new blog up ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> oh, adhoc : lyn gave me a UPS :), good for 750 watt, about 20 min (iirc)
<adhoc> nice
<adhoc> 20 minutes on *a* peecee
<adhoc> we only get 15 minutes on our 3200W
<adhoc> 5 peecees and 4 monitors
<Kamping_Kaiser> i'll run a few 150 watt boxes off it, it'l lsave them from brwonouts
<adhoc> =)
<adhoc> get the auto shutdown UPSD thing on your file server ...
<adhoc> i should get it going here
* Kamping_Kaiser doesnt have one. its not that advanced
<adhoc> no management?
<Kamping_Kaiser> not that i see
<adhoc> no serial port?
<Kamping_Kaiser> no
<quail> g'evening all
<Kamping_Kaiser> hey
<quail> hey K_K you have a good suppa?
<Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, : (21:47:18) Daniel B: got adsl :-)
<Kamping_Kaiser> quail, yeh, ok
* adhoc falls asleep on keybrod
<adhoc> night guys ...
<Kamping_Kaiser> later
<quail> kewl i had a good suppa, i had stuffed capsicum
<quail> g'night adhoc
<adhoc> have a good one guys
<Kamping_Kaiser> ngiht adhoc
<quail> will try too
<Kamping_Kaiser> YES!
<Kamping_Kaiser> the 17.5 is ok!
* adhoc has to be at work tomorrow at 530am
<Tate> evening fella's
<quail> hey Tate
<Tate> what's happening quail?
<B4zzA> howdy Tate
<Tate> hi B4zzA, how are you this evening?
<B4zzA> im good
<siccness> Is there a program under Linux that can resize another Linux's partition, as I need to install XP?
<Kamping_Kaiser> parted?
<Kamping_Kaiser> [g/qt]parted
<siccness> or do I have to grit my teeth and remove ubuntu?
<Fujitsu> siccness, gparted will do it fine.
<siccness> yeah? sweet
<Tate> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLHdwddwRdE <--- freaky
<elkbuntu> siccness, the gparted livecd (~30mb) is the easiest option too, i've found.
<siccness> elkbuntu: yeah, downloading now :)
<siccness> Tate: Heh
<Tate> it'd be better if it was a life time thing
<siccness> She's very creative with her hair, I believe it changed once in 3 years :)
<Tate> I know a girl that's NEVER changed her hairstyle
<Tate> it's default long asian hair
<siccness> must admit, my hair style hasnt changed in about 10 years
<Tate> hah, mine changes a fair bit... from long... to short, then when it's short, you can style it, etc
<Tate> whirlpool linux/bsd forums are full of nubs
* Kamping_Kaiser cacks up at a group of blokes on irc discusing hair styles
<Tate> Kamping_Kaiser: it's hardly homosexual... :P
<Kamping_Kaiser> Tate, i didnt say it was
<siccness> Tate: You're probably speaking of me :)
<siccness> I talk in that section
<Kamping_Kaiser> Tate, i get my hair plaited every time a girl goes near it ;), i still think chatting about it on irc is hillarious
<purserj> nah, its metrosexual, ie all the gay stuff except the whole sleeping with men thing
<Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
<Tate> lol purserj
<siccness> bbl
* Kamping_Kaiser flips pony tail about... damn it. i want plaits again
<Tate> I eat off plates
<Kamping_Kaiser> really?
<Kamping_Kaiser> you savage
<Kamping_Kaiser> use a fork like everyone else
<Tate> :o
<Tate> having an entire house to yourself = awesomenessness
<Kamping_Kaiser> bastard :/
<Tate> hah, it's been like this for the past two weeks for me
<Tate> father and brother are working up in Cairns
<Kamping_Kaiser> yer bugger :), i dont have a house to myself ;P
<Tate> I usually don't
<Tate> it's great though, because it's almost midnight and my music is still fully cranked ;)
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<Kamping_Kaiser> hahaa. pretty much
<Tate> I live far enough away from the neighbours that it doesn't distrub them
* Kamping_Kaiser is listening to goon shows atm
* Tate is listening to some random swedish metal
<Davo_Dinkum> hi ppl
<Tate> hi Davo_Dinkum, how are you this evening?
<Davo_Dinkum> ok
<Davo_Dinkum> having trouble putting 6.06.1 on a thinkpad
<Davo_Dinkum> it hangs during installation
<Davo_Dinkum> how r u?
<Davo_Dinkum> tate?
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: are you using the standard Live CD install?
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: I'm great thanks
<Davo_Dinkum> err yeah the desktop CD
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: you might like to try the alternate install
* Davo_Dinkum sighs
<Tate> the graphical one has some issues now and then
<Tate> I have a friend who had such an issue
<Tate> the alternate works fine
<Davo_Dinkum> great another 700mb DL
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: what ISP are you with? try and use free quota
<Davo_Dinkum> optus. they havent heard of such a thing
<Davo_Dinkum> cant u do a text install on the live/desktop CD?
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: yea, I'm not sure Optus are friendly
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: I have no idea, I'm not very knowledgable in that part
<Tate> if you could, then try to do that
<Davo_Dinkum> optus blow. everthing is counted
<Tate> if anything, when you first pop the CD in
<Tate> it'll come up with a list of options
<Tate> it may be there
<Tate> give that a shot
<Davo_Dinkum> alrighty
<Davo_Dinkum> it only 64mb of RAM though
<Davo_Dinkum> ill upgrade it *soon*
<Tate> ouch, that might choke on gnome
<Tate> I'd be using something more lightweight, like Xfce, or even a WM such as fluxbox or openbox
<Davo_Dinkum> not 4 me though. the laptop is for a windows user im forcing ubuntu onto
<Davo_Dinkum> best to make it easy to use
<Davo_Dinkum> does xfce have a trashcan yet
<Davo_Dinkum> ?
<Tate> no
<Tate> I wish there was a method for disabling the trash in GNOME, I really don't enjoy the concept of "trash"
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: it's being planned though, it'll be implemented in v2.0 of thunar along with samba
<Davo_Dinkum> why? i use it as a safety mechanism, incase i delete files accidentally
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: yes, it's great for that
<Tate> I always just use "shift-delete" though
<Davo_Dinkum> although the files arent really deleted, so...
<Davo_Dinkum> man this takes ages
<Davo_Dinkum> know anything about overclocking laptops?
<MatthewV> Davo_Dinkum, only try in a well air-conditioned room ;)
<MatthewV> night all
* Davo_Dinkum pokes tate
<Davo_Dinkum> still here?
<Davo_Dinkum> i think its hanging again
<Tate> hey mate, in the text mode?
<Tate> what's it hanging on?
<Davo_Dinkum> when it says: "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
<Tate> and this is during the install process?
<Tate> are you sure that the CD isn't currupted?
<Davo_Dinkum> could be possible
<Tate> do an md5sum check on the image
<Tate> that'll let you know
<Davo_Dinkum> its the same CDRW ive used for other ubuntu installs and it worked fien
<Davo_Dinkum> *fine
<Davo_Dinkum> ill check it anyway
<Tate> okay, than it's probably fine Davo_Dinkum
<Davo_Dinkum> wats the next step then?
<Tate> check the forums/google for similar issues with that model of laptop
<Davo_Dinkum> ok
<Tate> is it old?
<Davo_Dinkum> oh yeah
<Davo_Dinkum> 500mhz celeron, 6gb hdd
<Tate> should run linux fine
<Davo_Dinkum> yeah it was running xp pro before
<Kamping_Kaiser> how much ram?
<Davo_Dinkum> 64mb !!
<Kamping_Kaiser> wow. gnome will fly <sarcasm> :)
<Tate> gnome is slow as it is
<Davo_Dinkum> is KDE faster?
<quail> xfce is the fastest
<quail> KDE is slow as a wet fart
<Davo_Dinkum> LOL ok
<Tate> hah, KDE is faster than GNOME. Qt is alot faster than GTK2
<Tate> on a modern PC, the difference isn't that big anyway
<Tate> gnome is still faster than XP :P
<Tate> wow, transmission is a rather nice bit torrent client
<praetorian> i only have one problem with kde
<praetorian> i don't like to wear sunglasses indoors
<Tate> hahaha
<Tate> I don't like KDE at all
<praetorian> id imagine the kde/gnome comparisons are pretty much close btw
<Davo_Dinkum> is transmission available for ubuntu?
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: I'm not sure, you could always build it from source
<Tate> surely someone has a .deb for it
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: it's very light-weight, no added features
<Tate> it's extremely fast though
<Davo_Dinkum> yeah i use it on os x
<Davo_Dinkum> quite nice
<Davo_Dinkum> how hard is it to build something from source?
<praetorian> got a url for it?
<Tate> not very
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: basically, download the source
<Tate> $ make
<Tate> sorry
<Tate> $ ./configure
<Tate> $ make
<Tate> # make install
<Tate> unless you run into dependancy problems, you'll need to grab the packages for them
<Tate> http://transmission.m0k.org/
<praetorian> oh it's a .. gui
<Tate> for CLI, the standard official bit torrent client is nice
<praetorian> not really
<praetorian> 'rtorrent' is far nicer
<Tate> I'll have to check it out
<Tate> CLI is great beause I can let it run on the server and turn off my computer
<Davo_Dinkum> is rtorrent a cli program?
<Tate> I want to do the same for giFT
<Tate> Davo_Dinkum: praetorian said it was
<Davo_Dinkum> oh ok
<Tate> okay fella's, I'm off to bed
<Tate> good night
<Tate> good luck with that computer Davo_Dinkum
<Davo_Dinkum> seeya tate
<Davo_Dinkum> thanks
<praetorian> it is
<Davo_Dinkum> ill look on http://www.thinkwiki.org
<Davo_Dinkum> night guys
<tuxta2> hi people
<Kamping_Kaiser> hi tuxta2
<tuxta2> Hi Kamping_Kaiser
<Kamping_Kaiser> :)
<tuxta2> Just a slight delay there with my reply
<tuxta2> Was looking at another chat window
<tuxta2> Hows things ?
<Kamping_Kaiser> not bad. feeling a bit crook - drank 1.5 litters of fanta, and a packet of chips. my body hasnt had this much pure crap in it for ages
<tuxta2> haha
<tuxta2> yeah that'll do it
<Kamping_Kaiser> give me drunk throwing up over this feeling crook any day :/
<quail> morning all
<manicka> hiya quail :)
<quail> hey Grant, how are you?
<manicka> not to bad... can't sleep
<manicka> have the flu
<quail> i have the flu and a chest infection
<manicka> hehe. sounds like a poker match
<quail> hehe
*** klepas is now known as klepas_Zzz
<Phlosten_> bing!
<manicka> bang!
<Phlosten_> luckily I am not suffering from a nasty flu
<manicka> damn snotty nose
<manicka> !automatix
<manicka> hmm, the bot is dead
<manicka> !easyubuntu
<manicka> !alacarte
<manicka> !find alacarte
<ubotu> Found: alacarte
<manicka> !info alacarte
<ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 472 kB
<manicka> only partly broken
<manicka> <Seveas> and ubotu right now is undergoing serious brain{surgery,damage}
<pschulz01> .me yawns
* pschulz01 yawns
<adhoc> hey pschulz01
<pschulz01> adhoc: at work?
<adhoc> don't tell me you're at work too?
<pschulz01> adhoc: no.. no..
<pschulz01> adhoc: They don't pay me nearly enough for that.
* adhoc is waiting for servers to come back uip
<adhoc> pschulz01: overtime before 7am is x 2
<adhoc> ;)
<pschulz01> I wanted to ask you some questions about your redundency setup.
<adhoc> shott!
<adhoc> ask away even
<pschulz01> Are you using clusters (redhat) and DRBD?
<adhoc> we have redhat boxes clusterd behind a cisco content switch
<adhoc> and solaris boxes running the sun one cluster for ldap and mail
<adhoc> mostly behind the content switch
<pschulz01> adhoc: In separate locations.. yes?
<adhoc> yes
<adhoc> seperate sites ... 6 in all
<pschulz01> :-)
<adhoc> most services in 3 of them
<adhoc> we had 7 but one got wet
<pschulz01> Redundant network?
<Daemon> anyone running the latest XGL currently?
<adhoc> yup
<adhoc> Daemon: nope
<adhoc> mornen mr purserj
<purserj> mornen
<purserj> That reminds me, I need to nail lucychili for an interview again
<adhoc> after the house inspection
<adhoc> purserj: i think lucychili went back to bed after dropping me at work at 530 this morning
<Daemon> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2915/linux_xglcompiz_graphics <- just watched that XGL video, I like the "zoomed out" style of the cube for swiching workspaces, and the one where they're all in a line
<purserj> ah, probably a smart plan.
<Daemon> just wondered if Ubuntu had those options for XGL yet
<purserj> Daemon, yup
<adhoc> Daemon: packages exist, but i don't think that are included by default
<adhoc> Daemon: i installed them on my lappy, but my video card doesn't support the gl stuff very weel =(
<Daemon> I know it can spin, but I've never seen it zoomed out like that
<purserj> no, there's a couple of issues preventing that. Firstly they rely on non GPL packages (NVIDIA Drivers etc) and secondly, the XGL stuff is still pretty beta
<Daemon> I've had XGL/compiz running on both my home pc and lappy before, just interested again after seeing the cube with a background :)
<Daemon> took a bit of fiddling on the laptop, considering it's ATI ....
<Daemon> http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/featuresdetails.aspx/xps_m1210_au?c=au&l=en&s=bsd&~lt=popup&~lt=popup <- wouldn't mind that as my next lappy
<adhoc> is the XPS available in australia? i thought it was only for the merican market
<adhoc> given the drivers are a barstard to get right!?!?
<adhoc> we had designers with some and they scuked
<xice> ive seen XPS laptops before here in adelaide
<xice> yep ive seeen that laptop, (i remember the black lid and core duo) very nice,

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