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<dous> moin
<trigg3r> good morning
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<brainb0x> mornin'
<brainb0x> VERSION
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<eclair> it's the year of the dog and guess what jactinglim just did to greet everyone :D http://jactinglim.blogspot.com/2006/01/belated-happy-chinese-new-year.html
<jsgotangco> she posed nude?
<eclair> she drew someone who posed nude
<xfrye> who posed nude?
<eclair> friend ni jac :)
<xfrye> pede ba makita yan? hehehe
<eclair> hahahha
<jsgotangco> i dunno jac ting lim isn't my type
<eclair> jsgotangco, ok lang yan :) kanya-kanyang type lang
<irvin> good morning all
<xfrye> good morning
<ulinskie> morning din
<ulinskie> muslim holiday ngayon... new year nila
<ulinskie> holiday ba dyan sa manila?
<xfrye> nope
<ulinskie> ic
<jsgotangco> nope
<jsgotangco> lunar new year isn't celebrated
<jsgotangco> only eid i'l fitr
<irvin> ulinskie: muslim ka ba?
* eclair is away: reading
* brainb0x slap otep
<ulinskie> irvin, di no...catholic ako... sagrado
<ulinskie> irvin, got loads of muslim friends..
* ulinskie is away: visit wahoy.com, zamboanga's free online classified ads
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<ulinskie> ay tahimik...busog na siguro mga tao hehehe
<jsgotangco> dom just called me up
<dous> dom... cimafranca (?)
<jsgotangco> yeah
<jsgotangco> has anyone installed ubuntu from a hard drive before?
<eclair> nope :(
<dous> upgrade, yes (it was trigg3r, I think).. install, uhm.. RH yata yung nagawa ko dati or Slackware..
<jsgotangco> madali sa RH
<jsgotangco> you just select HD intsall
<jsgotangco> sa Ubuntu there's no option like that
<jsgotangco> hrrmmm
<dous> ah, yes.. hmm..
<dous> nde ba pwede debootstrap na lang agad?
<dous> hehe
<jsgotangco> you'll have to get initrd.gz and linux and probably hack up grub
<jsgotangco> that's too complicated
<dous> ganun yata ginawa ko dati, naka-RH then I installed debian (crossover install yata yung tawag).. di nga lang "malinis"
<jsgotangco> yeah
<dous> anyways, I'm off.. see you guys later
<eclair> see ya
<zakame> hi all
<eclair> hey zakame :)
<zakame> heya eclair :)
<jsgotangco> zakame, have you tried installing from a hard drive
<zakame> jsgotangco: from debian repos in hd, yes
<jsgotangco> zakame, good
<zakame> though mine was a long cicuitous route, using apt-mirror to cache my woody cds to hd
<jsgotangco> zakame, ok i got to ask something
<jsgotangco> its ok
<jsgotangco> zakame, how do i start it
<jsgotangco> i dump the iso to a disk?
<jsgotangco> i understand that i need to have vmlinuz and intird.gz
<jsgotangco> and these are already available at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
<zakame> yes
<jsgotangco> the question is how do i make it so that when i boot the machine, it looks into the hd say hdb
<jsgotangco> the start the installer?
<zakame> you'll have to install the repos first
<jsgotangco> where do i dump vmlinuz and initrd.gz to the source drive?
<jsgotangco> repos???
<zakame> wait, you are doing an HD install right? no network
<jsgotangco> none
<zakame> ah ok
* jsgotangco is deconstructing and seems to have stumbled to a road block
<jsgotangco> the USB key installer is easy but the HD hrmmm
<zakame> basically the archive from the cd must be installed to the HD first
<zakame> (CD, or from other media)
<jsgotangco> ok let's assume that we'll just dump what's on the iso
<jsgotangco> s/iso/cd
<jsgotangco> eerything on it
<jsgotangco> obviously it wont boot right
<zakame> yup
<jsgotangco> how do i make it so
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<zakame> lemme check again...
<zakame> debian specific perhaps, but anyhow: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en
<jsgotangco> nyahahaha that's the same with ubuntu
<jsgotangco> my question would be
<jsgotangco> where will i dump those files
<zakame> from what I gather, anywhere in the HD, since they'll be overwritten anyway with the default install
<jsgotangco> ok how about this
<jsgotangco> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd
<jsgotangco> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd
<jsgotangco> err
<jsgotangco> For LILO, you will need to configure two essential things in /etc/lilo.conf:
<jsgotangco> *
<jsgotangco> to load the initrd.gz installer at boot time;
<jsgotangco> *
<jsgotangco> have the vmlinuz kernel use a RAM disk as its root partition.
<jsgotangco> /etc/lilo.conf?
<jsgotangco> where did that come from?
<jsgotangco> or do i create one myself?
<zakame> create a new /etc/lilo.conf
<jsgotangco> i knew that :/
<jsgotangco> upstream doc is so terse
<zakame> gaah
<jsgotangco> zakame, it should have just said "create /etc/lilo.conf"
<zakame> prolly because its an afterthought, not too many people will keep the ubuntu-installer on the HD :/
<jsgotangco> well
<irvin> or you could append it to your existing grub menu
<jsgotangco> initrd.gz takes care of booting
<jsgotangco> irvin, we can't assume anything
<zakame> irvin: assuming an existing GRUB menu
<zakame> jsgotangco: I did my first HD install using floppies, and basedebs.tar
<zakame> that was when I didn't have the woody CDs yet
<jsgotangco> creating your own repos for netboot is overkill :/
<irvin> well somehow you need to load initrd.gz either from a linux or windows host
<zakame> yes, from the doc, d-i can read .isos
<jsgotangco> you just need to hvae initrd.gz look for a lilo.conf or a grub list
<jsgotangco> the cd itself uses neither since it uses syslinux
<jsgotangco> why am i even doing this
<jsgotangco> heh
<jsgotangco> zakame, yes, you just need the iso file
<jsgotangco> zakame, the issue really, is just booting
<zakame> jsgotangco: its either booting from the HD (assuming you have another *nix where you can install grub/lilo) or from removable (floppy, USB)
<jsgotangco> the floppy and USB are easy, they just use syslinux
<CuriousCat> hello everyone!
<jsgotangco> its pretty dumb to use a whole HD for syslinux
<zakame> lol
* zakame tackles CuriousCat
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, about the podcast... yeah. We can use a mic, headphones and our laptop. We'll be cool with that na. :D
<jsgotangco> nice
* CuriousCat swipes zakame's privates with open & sharpened claws
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, we just need a quiet place.
* zakame crumples
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, may theme song na rin tayo! :D Was able to make one last night on the way home using my phone. ;)
<jsgotangco> ow?
<jsgotangco> send! send!
<CuriousCat> :D
<jsgotangco> 09196555242
<jsgotangco> i tried MusicDJ too last night
<jsgotangco> i had fun
<jsgotangco> zakame, syslinux would work, but then again, an HD is too big
<CuriousCat> sending now! :D
<zakame> jsgotangco: so it all boils to either lilo or grub
<jsgotangco> zakame, even d-i doesn't say anything about syslinux in an hd so...
<zakame> jsgotangco: at any rate that assumes that you've booted to linux from somewhere, so you can `install-bootloader /path/to/hd`
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, you got it na?
<CuriousCat> techno3.mid yung file
<jsgotangco> bwahaha it sounds so much like the one i did last night
<jsgotangco> zakame, that's the problem
<jsgotangco> :/
<jsgotangco> booting from either lilo or grub assumes
<jsgotangco> 1. you already have linux installed
<jsgotangco> 2. you edit those in the existing filesystem
<jsgotangco> zakame, that's what i understood
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<otep> yo t'clair
<zakame> jsgotangco: as for 1, not really, you only need a Linux to boot ;) you can use knoppix, or the dapper live cd; as for 2, probably so, or you can copy those to the /target
<otep> yo peeps
<zakame> otep yo
<otep> yo zak
<jsgotangco> zakame, that's why there's vmlinuz and initrd.gz
<zakame> no, that's for booting the installer
<jsgotangco> im not gettting it
<jsgotangco> :/
<zakame> once grub/lilo is configured, then they get to use those files
<zakame> you have to:
<zakame> 1. Boot to Linux (from $whatever)
<jsgotangco> (using vmlinuz)
<jsgotangco> ?
<zakame> 2. create that /etc/lilo.conf with the details of where vmlinuz and initrd.gz are
<jsgotangco> ok if that's the case the question would be
<jsgotangco> 1. what starts lilo/grub?
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, haha! oo nga e. :D
<zakame> bios, once it is installed on the HD's bootsector
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, actually, every version comes out sounding the same.
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, at least we both like the techno version pala. haha!
<jsgotangco> zakame, /etc/lilo.conf boots by itself?
<zakame> jsgotangco: no, you have to install it using `lilo -C /etc/lilo.conf -b /the/boot/device`
<zakame> jsgotangco: then you can reboot
<jsgotangco> zakame, that's the thing you still need to start from something which is not nicely documented that's the problem
<jsgotangco> either i dont get it at all or the manual is not really useful
<zakame> jsgotangco: true true
<jsgotangco> when you copy lilo to your target device, using say knoppix
<jsgotangco> you're writing in on ramdisk then it refers back
<jsgotangco> the thing is
<jsgotangco> you still need a linux machine to boot initrd.gz and load vmlinuz
<jsgotangco> i've been watching it on syslinux
<jsgotangco> thing is, syslinux can boot
<jsgotangco> am i making sense?
<zakame> which exactly why you have to install lilo in the first place, to boot those files
<zakame> once lilo is installed, you can remove knoppix, then boot directly from the hard drive
* jsgotangco thinks initrd is the bootlader itself
<zakame> bingo, that not true, initrd only holds the modules (mostly) and some other programs (to install those modules)
<zakame> indeed, initrd itself is not much documented in the install-docs
<jond3rd> initrd is just a temporary workplace para magkaroon ng temporary complete root file system
<jsgotangco> the man page says its the boot loader and an initialized ram disk
<zakame> sometimes, yes, most of the time, no
<jsgotangco> jond3rd, initrd provides the space for vmlinuz right?
<jond3rd> jsgotangco: yes
<zakame> you can have an /sbin/lilo in the initrd
<jond3rd> so that it can load the drivers needed mostly for scsi devices na kailangang nakaload agad dahil part siya ng / filesystem
<zakame> true
<zakame> initrd is mostly modules
<jond3rd> The goal of the initrd is to bootstrap the system to the point where it can access the root filesystem. This usually means loading the necessary modules so the kernel can "see" things like IDE, SCSI, SATA, Firewire, or USB devices, any of which might contain the root filesystem.
<jsgotangco> that's fine and dandy but it doesn't solve my problem which is install from HD..vmlinuz and initrd.gz are downloadable..but going next is the question
<zakame> brb
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<jond3rd> jsgotangco: what are you trying to do?
<jsgotangco> install from an HD
<jsgotangco> say the ISO is in another HD
<jond3rd> network install?
<jond3rd> ah ok
<jond3rd> you can copy vmlinuz and initrd to /boot and rename it to something else, then update your lilo or grub
<Ibalon> jond3rd: which was just said in the docs
<jsgotangco> jond3rd, where is /boot ?
<Ibalon> (although it says copy
<jond3rd> huh?
<jond3rd> /boot is in /boot
<jsgotangco> no no no
<jsgotangco> i mean
<jsgotangco> why is there /boot? does it assume i'm installing from a machine already installed with linux?
<jond3rd> jsgotangco: yes
<Ibalon> where to place /boot? in the /target HD, or someplace else?
* CuriousCat has LSS from the song she created on her phone
<jsgotangco> jond3rd, meaning dapat meron na ako linux from the start?
<Ibalon> jsgotangco: technically it assumes that you have a filesystem on the HD installed
<jond3rd> how can you use vmlinuz and initrd if you don't have linux installed?
<Ibalon> it doesn't really have to be Linux (could be BSD, for instance)
<jond3rd> yeah
<jsgotangco> vfat?
<jond3rd> as long as you can boot from the two image
<jond3rd> vfat is fine, as long as you can call vmlinuz and initrd from ntloader
<Ibalon> jond3rd: you can, with a live CD
<Ibalon> jond3rd: besides its not you who will use those, its the bootloader
<jond3rd> Ibalon: how?
<jond3rd> yes, how can you tell to the bootloader that you have a new image?
<jond3rd> if you are using Live CD's?
<jsgotangco> yes that's another question
<jsgotangco> you remaster a new livecd pointing to the hd?
<jond3rd> something like that
<Ibalon> no no no
<jsgotangco> you would be better off using syslinux on a floppy or usb
<Ibalon> its really running the bootloader from the live cd, with the appropriate opts to install to the /target
<jond3rd> ah okay, gets ko na
<jsgotangco> i dont :/
<jond3rd> one can always specify the /target durint boot: prompt
<jsgotangco> you copy your bootloader to your target?
<Ibalon> jsgotangco: yes
<Ibalon> jsgotangco: that was what I was trying to say in the first place :/
<jsgotangco> Ibalon, i thought you only meant lilo.conf
<Ibalon> jond3rd: err not on the boot prompt, but on the actuall bootloader install
<jsgotangco> that's why i asked why is lilo.conf the one boothing
<Ibalon> lilo.conf gets installed in the bootloader, but not in /target's filesystem
<jsgotangco> what is our bootloader?
<jond3rd> it's much easier if you are using grub :-)
<jsgotangco> menu.lst?
<Ibalon> jond3rd++
<trigg3r> hi everyone
<jsgotangco> The procedure for GRUB is quite similar. Locate your menu.lst in the /boot/grub/ directory (sometimes in the /boot/boot/grub/), add the following lines:
<jsgotangco> title New Install
<jsgotangco> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/newinstall/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk_size=12000
<jsgotangco> initrd (hd0,0)/boot/newinstall/initrd.gz
<jsgotangco> and reboot. If the boot fails, you can try adding devfs=mount,dall to the “kernel” line.
<Ibalon> heya trigg3r
<jond3rd> menu.lst or just edit the config during grub prompt
<trigg3r> i got a problem
<jond3rd> trigg3r: we all do :-)
<trigg3r> i was in the middle of an ssh session from home on the server, then my ssh client got a connection error. i couldn't connect to the server anymore. when i got here in the office today, i can't access my home directory. doing an ls gives me a segmentation fault. changing directory to a subdir is fine and i get a listing..corrupt fs?
<trigg3r> jond3rd: heheh i know
<jsgotangco> ive seen that before
<trigg3r> it's freaky, because it's only on the home directory. all other subdirs are fine
<Ibalon> hard cash?
<Ibalon> I mean crash?
<jond3rd> trigg3r: apt-get install coreutils --reinstall :-)
<trigg3r> Ibalon: no crash..it's still up and running
<jond3rd> huh?
<jond3rd> only on home dir?
<jsgotangco> yeah
<jsgotangco> i've seen that
<trigg3r> jond3rd: yep only on the home dir.
<jond3rd> separate filesystem ba ang /home?
<trigg3r> jsgotangco: that's great..at least i know it happens somewhere
<jsgotangco> it happened to me on warty
<trigg3r> jond3rd: no, it's all in one filesystem
<jsgotangco> for some reason, it came back
<jond3rd> trigg3r: ls -l /home still work ?
<jsgotangco> so i wasn't able to know at all what caused it
* trigg3r glad it isn't on my breezy. the problem's on my dumb SLES9 p5 server
<jsgotangco> oh pseries
<jond3rd> p5?
<trigg3r> jond3rd: ls and ls -l for /home works. but /home/jon doesn't. ls /home/jon/public_html works
<trigg3r> just my home directory
<trigg3r> yea..power5 server. i can trade this for a sun blade server if anyone's interested
<jond3rd> weird
<trigg3r> jsgotangco: but you say it goes away after a while?
<jsgotangco> trigg3r, that's the strangest thing...something caused it to happen
<jsgotangco> its not the type that does "ET phone home" thing
<jond3rd> trigg3r: try this, cp -r /home/jon /home/jon.orig && rm -rf /home/jon && mv /home/jon.orig /home/jon
<trigg3r> exactly..
<jond3rd> maybe it's the "physical location"
<trigg3r> on Konqueror, accessing the directory gives me a "The processs for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
<trigg3r> jond3rd: i'll try that
<Ibalon> cya on thursday
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<trigg3r> argh my vnc session get trashed
<trigg3r> jond3rd: grabe..cp pa lang to..
<trigg3r> jond3rd: ok na...i'm able to access my home directory na
<trigg3r> jond3rd: this will require an fsck later pag wala na tao, i'll do single user siguro
<jond3rd> cool :-)
<trigg3r> jond3rd: pero weird..what could've caused it?
<jond3rd> dunno, i'm thinking of phyical damage
<trigg3r> hehe ako lang kasi ang makulit na user
<jond3rd> trigg3r: no wonder, jon ang nick mo eh hehehehe
<trigg3r> bwehehehe..mana mana lang yan
<trigg3r> hey Den
<Den> sup trigg3r?
<trigg3r> not much...trying to get last.fm plugin to work
<Den> uhuh. are you in the pp?
<trigg3r> what's a pp?
<Den> philippines
<trigg3r> oh
<trigg3r> yea
<trigg3r> berkeley eh?
<Den> yep
<Den> What is your occupation?
<trigg3r> i'm not sure what i am at the moment..
<trigg3r> i do a lot of things
<Den> Are you a student, or beyond that?
<ulinskie> wow.. me foreigner.. sozy
<trigg3r> i'm done with college. in grad school now. but i'm still a full time corporate whore
<trigg3r> heheh
<trigg3r> ulinskie: wassup yol!
<ulinskie> trigg3r, busy.. doing some reports... holiday dito pero kame me work... ewan ko kung bakit heheh ang dami kasing holiday pag feb dito..
<trigg3r> ulinskie: how are the preparations coming along?
<ulinskie> trigg3r, busyyyyy... got 30 registrants who have paid... ang iba online na nagreregister...
<trigg3r> wow that's great
<ulinskie> trigg3r, my biggest corporate attendee is TESDA the whole region
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<ulinskie> trigg3r, gave me 7 tapos nagdagdag nang 5 tapos meron pa daw na darating... yehey
<trigg3r> ulinskie: woot! talk about bigtime!
* jmibanez yawns
<trigg3r> hey jm!
<jmibanez> hey trigg3r
<trigg3r> jmibanez: didja get my message via butiki?
<Den> trigg3r: in grad school & full time work? Busy! What do you study, & do for work?
<trigg3r> Den: are you a student?
<ulinskie> trigg3r, o hala ohala..... mag dilang anghel ka sana hehehe... getting positive feedbacks... eh..
<Den> trigg3r: What timing!
<Den> trigg3r: kinds
<trigg3r> Den: yea...you weren't saying anything so i thought i'd ask hehe
<Den> trigg3r: EE
<trigg3r> Den: electrical?
<ulinskie> trigg3r, Lattice, a subsidiary of american technologies inc. is coming over here... mag iisponsor sila
<Den> trigg3r: yes & you?
<CuriousCat> whee!
<CuriousCat> whee!
<trigg3r> Den: just programming and stuff
<CuriousCat> whee!
* trigg3r hides
<CuriousCat> MCDONALD'S MILKSHAKES RULEZZZ!!!
<jmibanez> trigg3r yep:
<jmibanez> CuriousCat: binalik na ba yung milkshjake?
<Den> trigg3r: what grad school subjects?
<trigg3r> Den: mostly management and business stuff
<trigg3r> Den: MIS and all that
<Den> trigg3r: What school?
<trigg3r> Den: Xavier U
<Den> trigg3r: Where is Xav?
<Den> trigg3r: & what do you wnat to do when you finish?
<trigg3r> jmibanez: jond3rd helped me with that segmentation fault error thingy
<CuriousCat> jmibanez, it in the newly opened McDo Jaka Building ayala ave. ;)
<CuriousCat> Strawberry and Vanilla flavors are goooood!
<CuriousCat> i should try chocolate tomorrow. :D
<jmibanez> trigg3r: hmm? refresh my memory about the segfault-- sorry
<trigg3r> Den: Xavier U's here in the Phils. and when i finish my thesis i'm going to quit busting my ass here and go somewhere else where the grass is greener :)
<Den> trigg3r: like where?
<trigg3r> jmibanez: my home directory couldn't be accessed...
<Den> trigg3r: what's your thesis?
<trigg3r> Den: maybe down under...maybe in the US
<trigg3r> jmibanez: but /home/jon/public_html is accessible...so save for /home/jon, everything else was accessible
<trigg3r> jmibanez: which is weird, since i was just on an ssh session from the house when i got cut off..
<trigg3r> Den: on GIS and data warehousing
<Den> trigg3r: So, what do you want to do for work?
<trigg3r> at this point i don't know what i want :D
<Den> trigg3r: Aha. What do you do for work currently?
<jond3rd> question:
<jond3rd> paano ipalabas sa top yung itaas na part lang?
<jmibanez> bloody hell.
<jmibanez> firefox died on me.
<jmibanez> bah.
<jmibanez> humbug.
<trigg3r> Den: programming, systems and network administration, janitorial and clerical stuff
<trigg3r> jmibanez: hehe
<jmibanez> butiki, infobot stats
<butiki> jmibanez: Since Sun Jan 29 16:52:16 2006, there have been 6 modifications and 10 questions. I have been awake for 1 day, 23 hours, 35 minutes, and 42 seconds this session, and currently reference 11 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.
<trigg3r> jond3rd: diba merong thread nito sa PLUG last week i think?
<jond3rd> trigg3r: really? nakadiretso kasi sa /dev/null ang mail ko from plug eh :-)
<jmibanez> trigg3r: i blame totem for the death of firefox
<Den> trigg3r: What city are you, & Xavier, in?
<trigg3r> jond3rd: wahaha..grabe
<trigg3r> jmibanez: the player? what did it do?
<trigg3r> Den: cagayan de oro
<jond3rd> trigg3r: where in cagayan de oro?
<jmibanez> trigg3r: closing a tab that launched an embedded totem instance closed the whole damned thing.
<Den> trigg3r: Do you have a url for a map of PP with cagay... on it?
<trigg3r> Den: i don't have those..but u can google it if you want :D
<trigg3r> jond3rd: err location ko? nasa divisoria ang office...bahay sa carmen
<jond3rd> got it, top -bcisS -n 1 :-)
<trigg3r> jond3rd: daymnn...hot options!
<trigg3r> lol
<jond3rd> trigg3r: not to mention the series of | grep -v' :-)
<trigg3r> jmibanez: somehow i haven't really gotten totem running as the plugin for playing movies and stuff on firefox...it's always mplayer, no matter how i install/reinstall the darn things
<stitch_x2> jond3rd, malufet ka talaga!!! :-)
<jond3rd> nyak!
<jmibanez> trigg3r: i'm in a net shop, so i have no say-- i'm just happy i'm on an ubuntu box :))
<jond3rd> nandito pala ang malupit sa lahat ng malupit hehe
<jmibanez> trigg3r: personally, i don't enable it on my boxen, embedded media player etc... stuff
<trigg3r> jmibanez: ahh! same here..i just don't play it on the browser. better dl the damn thing..:D
<trigg3r> jond3rd: ano ba hanap mo sa top?
<jond3rd> trigg3r: cpu and memory usage
<jond3rd> now I need to create a script that will compute the memory in percentage
<trigg3r> err don't u get that in proc?
<trigg3r> or on a per application basis to?
<jond3rd> trigg3r: average?
<trigg3r> jond3rd: i'm guessing...wait lemme open a terminal
<jond3rd> free and /proc/meminfo only shows total and used, no average
* CuriousCat is updating her website version
<CuriousCat> meow...
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: i updated my theme! weee
<CuriousCat> trigg3r, whee!
<trigg3r> jond3rd: yea i check it out just now..hehehe wala nga..
<jond3rd> trigg3r: yeah, and expr doesn't seem to help :-(
<stitch_x2> jond3rd, i think sar can do that...
<jond3rd> sar?
<CuriousCat> sars?
<trigg3r> tool?
* CuriousCat is eating tikoy.
<jond3rd> stitch_x2: anong package ng sar?
<trigg3r> hehe what's with the one-word questions?
<CuriousCat> one word?
<stitch_x2> jond3rd, sysstat
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: penge! ang babarat ng mga tsinoy dito :D
<jond3rd> got it it's part of the sysstat package
<Den> trigg3r: http://www.flyphilippines.com/info/cagayandeoro-philippines.html
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: do u dig last.fm?
* otep is away: ..- -... ..- -. - ..- .-. ----- -..- ----- .-. --..
* otep is back (gone 00:00:01)
<Den> trigg3r: http://www.bestasiaphilippines.com/cagayandeoromap.shtml
<jond3rd> sar
<jond3rd> Cannot open /var/log/sysstat/sa31: No such file or directory
<jond3rd> :-(
<Den> trigg3r: You have a mat that shows where Xav is?
<trigg3r> Den: why the interest in cagayan de oro?
<Den> trigg3r: Leaning something new everyday!
<trigg3r> Den: go to XU's website. http://www.xu.edu.ph
<jond3rd> stitch_x2: can you spoon-fed me with sar? :-)
<jmibanez> clair meows hello ^^
* trigg3r plays INXS - Suicide Blonde
<trigg3r> wb zakame
<Den> trigg3r: Do you know http://manila.craigslist.org/ Is there anything like that in cdo?
<jmibanez> weebee zak
<zakame> thanks jmibanez :)
<zakame> and trigg3r :)
<jmibanez> butiki, debian version unstable wine
<jmibanez> bloody heck.
<jmibanez> butiki, debian version unstable winelib
<jmibanez> butiki, debian stats
<butiki> jmibanez: (debian stats <source package>) -- Reports various statistics (from http://packages.qa.debian.org/) about <source package>.
<jmibanez> bah humbug
<trigg3r> Den: none that i know of
<Den> trigg3r: Ah. Had you heard of craigslist befor?
<trigg3r> Den: no
<zakame> Den: nice link
<zakame> I have, but never bothered to look into it
<Den> trigg3r: No online community for sale, help wanteds, etc, in cdo?
<Den> zakame: :)
<trigg3r> Den: i'm sure there are forums and online communities, i just haven't bothered looking...:D
<otep> pijazzfest.com
<Den> trigg3r: What web site to people in cdo go to to look for help wanted ads?
<Den> trigg3r: ah. Are you from cdo, or PPs?
<trigg3r> Den: the usual way is to buy the paper and scour for ads there...
<stitch_x2> jond3rd, try mo sar -r -n DEV -f /var/log/sa/sa16
<trigg3r> Den: CDO is in the phils. :D
<Den> trigg3r: meaning?
<Den> trigg3r: Do you get online from home or school?
<trigg3r> Den: home, school and work
<CuriousCat> Gentlemen... follow me as I and another geekette wreck... uhm... havoc on another website...
<CuriousCat> http://blog.m-ph.com/01/27/2006/general/bernie-janda/my-kikoy-kit/
<jond3rd> stitch_x2: No such file or directory
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: wut u do this time? lol
<CuriousCat> The men who started the conversation now refuse to touch the post. haha!!!
<trigg3r> wahhaah..eight maids-a-milkin'!
<Den> trigg3r: What did you mean by "is in the phils. :D" ? Not many people online yet??
<CuriousCat> HAHAH!!!
<CuriousCat> trigg3r, what do you think? :D
<trigg3r> Den: i was referring to your question..on whether i was from cdo or i was from the phils. and i said, cdo is in the phils...it's a city within the phils..
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: i shudder at the thought of getting ganged on by two uhmmm..
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: geekettes :D
* trigg3r is getting coffee
<CuriousCat> trigg3r, my answer to that is still on moderation. But the text is as follows:
<otep> CuriousCat: san po ba me sennheiser?
<otep> yo aeon17x
<aeon17x> hey
<CuriousCat> for trigg3r:
<CuriousCat> --- Begin reply---
<CuriousCat> (Aside: Whatta you wanna bet that the next comment will be one kicking the two of us offa this thread? :D :D :D )
<CuriousCat> Well, I just posted. Maybe *after* I post? :D
<CuriousCat> (Another aside: I’ve just been texted “why the heck there’s girl talk” on this topic. Getting nervous that the geeks are being overrun by the geekettes perhaps? :D :D :D )
<CuriousCat> Uhm… I’m sure that’s saliva… unless someone’s drooling on his head. LOL! (Yes. “Eww” moment there, gentlemen.) Proper channels? Clearance? For what? Drooling over someone’s head?
<CuriousCat> Oh. Oh! You mean the milkshake! Riiiiiight… :D
<CuriousCat> --- end reply ---
<Den> trigg3r: ah. I was ambiguous. I meant "are you _originally_ (like born & raised) from cdo (which I saw is in the PP,), or if not from cd originally, are you originally from the PP. ?
<CuriousCat> otep, sa music1 and tower records, meron
<otep> ahk thanks po
<trigg3r> Den: ah...i'm not from CDO. my wife's from here though
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: LOL!
<CuriousCat> haha! :D
<stitch_x2> jond3rd, kelangan mo mag-create ng system daily activity report file using sa2
<jond3rd> sa2?
<Den> trigg3r: ah yes. Are you born & raised in the PP?
* brainb0x slap otep
* otep slams brainb0x with a Monkey King Bar
<jmibanez> :))
<jmibanez> interesting conversation on m-ph, CuriousCat
* otep windwalks
<zakame> Den: interview?
<stitch_x2> jond3rd, kasam sya sa sysstat... sa1 and sa2 yung create nila na data ang ginagamit ng sar
<Den> zakame: ??
<CuriousCat> jmibanez, thank you!
<brainb0x> VERSION
<CuriousCat> place your bets folks! What do you think will happen next in m-ph? :D
<jond3rd> http://www.dpwh.gov.ph/index.htm
<trigg3r> Den: yes i am
<jmibanez> CuriousCat: i'm willing to bet someone will bluster in and ask, "wtf?"
* brainb0x C-a d
<jmibanez> CuriousCat: almost willing to bet, i mean :D
<CuriousCat> jmibanez, haha!!!
<trigg3r> CuriousCat: my money's on "wtf?!"
<otep> piso sa "wtf?!"
<zakame> @wtf wtf
<butiki> No idea.
<zakame> @google wtf
<zakame> lol
<CuriousCat> paglaruan ba ang wtf....
<zakame> apt-get install bsdgames; which wtf
<CuriousCat> lol!!!
<Den> trigg3r: ah. Well, pleasure speaking with you. I gotta reboot & do some stuf, & gotta get to sleep too. I'm interested in the PP cause I'm possibly interested in finding someone to do some work for me there. Perhaps we can talk about that in the future. Goodnight :)
<CuriousCat> jmibanez, you know, i can't remember if me and miranoriel have met before...
<jmibanez> butiki, wtf is What the Fsck?, an expression of surprise or befuddlement
<butiki> No idea.
<jmibanez> die, butiki. just die.
<CuriousCat> butiki, die
<butiki> No idea, CuriousCat.
<CuriousCat> butiki, sit
<butiki> Dunno.
<CuriousCat> butiki, are you a man?
<butiki> I don't have a clue!
<jmibanez> butiki, sit is <action>sits and begs for food...
<CuriousCat> hahaha!!!
<butiki> 10-4.
<jmibanez> butiki, sit
* butiki sits and begs for food
<CuriousCat> butiki, eat
<butiki> Dunno!
<jmibanez> butiki, good dog is <action>sticks out his tongue
<butiki> 10-4, jmibanez.
<jmibanez> butiki, good dog
* butiki sticks out his tongue
<jmibanez> nice.
<jmibanez> butiki, die is <action>rolls over and plays dead
<butiki> Gotcha, jmibanez.
<jmibanez> butiki, die.
<butiki> Dunno!
<jmibanez> butiki, die
<zakame> Den: what work?
* butiki rolls over and plays dead
<CuriousCat> ask him to beg! :D
<trigg3r> Den: sure..just drop by the channel
<jmibanez> CuriousCat, ikaw na lang magturo. alis na ako. have to eat :))
<CuriousCat> butiki, beg!
<butiki> I don't have a clue, CuriousCat.
<CuriousCat> butiki, beg
<Den> zakame: 1 some linux, 2 some internet based research/business/secretarial.
<butiki> I don't know!
<trigg3r> jmibanez: oh no, don't leave butiki with her
<CuriousCat> hmmm. ayaw...
<trigg3r> jmibanez: baka ano na matutunan nyan!
<trigg3r> wehehehe
<CuriousCat> how do you remove an action?
<jmibanez> CuriousCat, forget
<jmibanez> butiki, forget beg
<butiki> I didn't have anything matching "beg", jmibanez.
<CuriousCat> butiki, beg
<butiki> I don't have a clue!
<jmibanez> CuriousCat, you can't teach the damned thing from outside the channel ha
<trigg3r> hahahah
<zakame> Den: ooh! :D i've not much time now, but I'm interested :)
<zakame> gtg
<zakame> http://zakame.spunge.org/blog/2006/01/31/itinerary-for-feb-asiabusinesstour-and-bosf/
<jmibanez> CuriousCat, but that's something i'm working on, to alleviate the spam
<trigg3r> later zakame
<CuriousCat> jmibanez, i'm trying!!
<jmibanez> butiki, beg is <action>sits up and begs like the cute bot it is
<butiki> Gotcha, jmibanez.
<jmibanez> butiki, beg
* butiki sits up and begs like the cute bot it is
* jmibanez yawns
<jmibanez> i'm gone.
<trigg3r> later jm
<jmibanez> CuriousCat, play nice with the bot.
*** jmibanez is now known as jmi[mon]
<CuriousCat> butiki, say goodbye is <action>becomes rabid
<butiki> goodbye is <action>becomes rabid
<CuriousCat> butiki, goodbye
<butiki> Wish I knew!
<CuriousCat> gah!
<CuriousCat> !kills butiki
<butiki> No idea.
<CuriousCat> nevermind.
<CuriousCat> it doesn't want to follow me.
<CuriousCat> Stupid bot.
<CuriousCat> trigg3r, beg
<jond3rd> http://ca.supremecourt.gov.ph/hacked.txt
<trigg3r> :P
<otep> jond3rd: =(|)
<trigg3r> butiki, goodbye is <action>becomes rabid and starts chewing on CuriousCat
<butiki> 10-4, trigg3r.
<trigg3r> butiki, goodbye
* butiki becomes rabid and starts chewing on CuriousCat
<CuriousCat> butiki, forget goodbye
<butiki> 10-4.
<trigg3r> otep: that smiley looked like that lizard fried of brandy and mr. whiskers
<otep> huh?
<otep> hehehe
<CuriousCat> butiki, fetch is <action>fetches a burning stick, sets itself on fire and offers itself to trigg3r
<butiki> Okay.
<CuriousCat> butiki, fetch
* butiki fetches a burning stick, sets itself on fire and offers itself to trigg3r
<CuriousCat> hmmm. i wonder if i can override help...
<CuriousCat> butiki, help
<butiki> CuriousCat: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
<CuriousCat> hmmmm. :D
<trigg3r> haha...the hacker is always looking for holes
<CuriousCat> naah. baka magalit si jmi[mon]
<trigg3r> :D
<CuriousCat> then again... it is just... so... tempting...
<jond3rd> trigg3r: not only hacker is looking for holes :-)
<trigg3r> pero that's supposed to help..at least he'l know
<CuriousCat> like... a vanilla milkshake!
<jond3rd> trigg3r: this one too 8==D
<trigg3r> jond3rd: hehehe
<jond3rd> hehe
<CuriousCat> jond3rd, what's that? It looks like...
<otep> hhahaha ano yan?
<CuriousCat> ... a guy peeing into a bowl???
<trigg3r> it looks like a spade
<CuriousCat> oh! a spade! riiiiight.
<trigg3r> with dual eyelet grip
<trigg3r> ealden
* otep headbutts ealden
<ealden> hi room
<ealden> hi trigg3r, otep
<otep> musta report?
<CuriousCat> gah! i have a class in ortigas tomorrow.
<CuriousCat> Of all things... MS Excel level 1
<ealden> otep: oks naman
<otep> yo jsgotangco
<ealden> otep: di lang nasagot fully yung last q LOL
<otep> hahah
<otep> balet
<otep> *baket
<jsgotangco> hi
<trigg3r> hi jsgotangco
<jsgotangco> hey
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, hey hande emailed you na
<trigg3r> sandali lang..
<trigg3r> mails
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, oh! wait abit... opening mail
* aeon17x is still wondering who the heck is leeching off me at 80 kB/s.
<aeon17x> Is it the FBI? o_o
<jsgotangco> then stop downloading torrents
<otep> aeon17x: baka ako =D
<aeon17x> Biglang nawala nga e.
<aeon17x> Ano ba iyung dina-download mo?
<otep> hahah
<otep> iso ng fed core 4
<aeon17x> *gasp* Tumigil siya noong nagtanong ako dito.
<aeon17x> Mukhang tinatrack niya ang mga kilos ko ah.
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, question, can we bring a photographer?
<jsgotangco> i guess so
<otep> aeon17x: baka si ChanServ
<otep> hahah j/k
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, still no invite from events@work
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, ok lang yun
<CuriousCat> ok. whee!
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, i already got to talk to hande just now she's already in jakarta
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, okidoki! :D
<otep> yo michaelloria ]\
<ulinskie> hello michaelloria
<ulinskie> hello otep
<otep> yo ninang
<trigg3r> hay..i got to go
<trigg3r> jond3rd: daghang salamat as usual pare
<trigg3r> see y'all tomorrow. meeting muna kami
* trigg3r waves
<otep> babayu
<CuriousCat> bye trigg3r
<ulinskie> bye trigg3r
* CuriousCat tackles ulinskie
<CuriousCat> whoops!
<CuriousCat> :D
<ulinskie> anyone who plans to come here... you can now register online at the event's website http://linuxfoss.rjnworks.com
<ulinskie> CuriousCat, hehehe...
<otep> ninang pautang pang erpleyn
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, did you receive cds already?
<ulinskie> otep, hanapan mo ako nang sponsor.. pang plane ticket mo.. ako na ang bahala syo dito hehhe.. gusto mo sa gitna ka naming mag asawa hehehe scorer ka hehehe joke
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, got 900 here.. yung conference pack wala pa
<jsgotangco> wow 900CDs
<jsgotangco> damn
<jsgotangco> that's 3 boxes
<otep> =(
<ulinskie> I got 500 from them, then my friend got another 500 yung iba pinamigay na
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, who did you ask?
<ulinskie> yung conference pack ko wahhhhh
<ulinskie> december 2 pa daw yun pinadala
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, hmmm... marilize yata from canonical
<jsgotangco> yes pretty marilize
<ulinskie> yeah.. she's the one na kinukulit ko hehehe
<ulinskie> I think she received an email eveyr other day for 2 weeks from me
<ulinskie> they the cds through jrs express and not through the postmaster..kaya lang yung conference pack thru postmail.. dunno if its arriving... I do hope and pray soooo...sayang ang sticker and tshirts eh
<jsgotangco> argghh why did you do that :/
<ulinskie> we were exchaging emails... don't worry hehehe... she was also asking for the whereabouts of the pack
<jsgotangco> ok
<CuriousCat> wow... conference pack? what's in that?
* jsgotangco brain hurts
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, stickers, shirts
<jsgotangco> some baloons i think
<CuriousCat> baloons!
<jsgotangco> flyers
<CuriousCat> balloons!
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, hehe don't worry... I am persistent without being irritating hehehe
<CuriousCat> BALLOONS!
* jsgotangco wants to shoot sysads at LA datacenter
<ulinskie> wahhhhh... conference pack... baka nag balloons na ang mga tga custom hehehe
<CuriousCat> butiki, balloons
<butiki> I don't have a clue!
<CuriousCat> sus. walang silbi.
<jsgotangco> i need a haircut
<jsgotangco> ok ba ang FIX by bench
<jsgotangco> ?
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, will get a haircut tomorrow at David's Megamall.
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, why?
<ealden> jsgotangco: ok naman
<CuriousCat> Tutal... nandoon na 'ko, so...
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, hey wanna ask if u prefer a class hotel na medyo far .. or a not soso.. pero near
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, i look like mountain man at the mment
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, ikaw bahala
<CuriousCat> trip? :D
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, what d u think sir paolo will prefer? sozy ba kayo o pwedeng jologs?
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, hmmm
<jsgotangco> baka naman yung jologs eh madaming alam mo na
<CuriousCat> butiki, balloons is <action>pops a balloon and toots!
<jsgotangco> i need to shave
<butiki> 10-4.
<CuriousCat> butiki, balloons
* butiki pops a balloon and toots
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, uhm... you need to go to a parlor for a shave?
<aeon17x> Whee, they're showing the Bikochu arc in Naruto.
<CuriousCat> why not do it yourself?
<ulinskie> haha.. meron kasing small hotel/pension house na malapit sa event place.... ok naman.. at least you can make laag.. and its near the seafood restaurant.. na sponsor
<jsgotangco> CuriousCat, i need a haircut too
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, pension house hrmmm
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, kayo bahala
<ulinskie> but if you like yung medyo sozy, malayo sa kabihasnan... heheh... mga 20 mins. ride papuntang event place
* jsgotangco got to sleep in backpacker motels and 5 star business hotels so he doesn't mind at all
<jsgotangco> wala siguro wifi :.
<ulinskie> o sige, I will keep that in mind
<jsgotangco> :/
<ulinskie> ahhh.. madaming cafe hehehe
<ulinskie> I'll take a look into that also.. u want internet connection ba?
<jsgotangco> if possible :/
<jsgotangco> but not a must
<ulinskie> ok.. sige.. at least I know ur needs..
<CuriousCat> gah!
* jsgotangco haven't been down south so no idea what to expect
<CuriousCat> looks like i won't be cutting my hair then.
<ulinskie> kahit davao?
<jsgotangco> ?
<jsgotangco> nope
* jsgotangco -> dayuhan sa sariling bayan
<CuriousCat> conditioner na lang.
<ulinskie> oo wag mong i cut.. para cool dito dating mo.. geek na geek hehehe
<jsgotangco> nyerk
<ulinskie> yung para bang aktibista attire
<CuriousCat> ulinskie, AKO ang hindi magpapagupit ng buhok!
<jsgotangco> eh?
<jsgotangco> no way
<ulinskie> hehehe joke lang
<jsgotangco> rebond kailangan ko
<ulinskie> hmm... ok...
<jsgotangco> heh
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, I will send u some pics of the summit.. I will also take some pictures of the inside next week
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, and probably an extra PC just in case
<jsgotangco> kahit desktop for presentation
<jsgotangco> i'll just bring a USB drive and my laptop
<ulinskie> ok.. what edubuntu na?
<jsgotangco> sometimes my laptop is finicky
<jsgotangco> kahit ano
<CuriousCat> looks like i'll just have to condition faitfully
<jsgotangco> anything that works with a projector
<CuriousCat> s/faitfully/faithfully
<ulinskie> me sponsor na darating yung lattice, subsidiary nang ati.com.ph they will be letting us use some hardware..x deal and give out freebies
<jsgotangco> wow lattice
<ulinskie> they wrote me a proposal kanina
<CuriousCat> oooh!
<ulinskie> mag coconforme ako bukas.. brainstorm muna kame nang ibang organizers
<jsgotangco> the conference i spoke at seoul gave around 10 PSPs as prize
<jsgotangco> and around 20 Samsung Yepps
<ulinskie> ay talaga..
<jsgotangco> the speakers didn't get anything :/
<jsgotangco> heh
<ulinskie> naku.. di ko yata kayang pantayan yan
<ulinskie> hehehe
<jsgotangco> we were so pissed
<ulinskie> mayaman ka na
* jsgotangco wants a PSP...
<otep> jsgotangco: 12K?
<jsgotangco> mahal
<jsgotangco> i want it free
<otep> sows
<otep> haha
<ulinskie> haha..
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, send u a pic of the outside facade of the gym
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, sa skype mo
<jsgotangco> whoa
<jsgotangco> ang laki
<jsgotangco> parang fiesta
<jsgotangco> img going to speak there????
<ulinskie> haha... it's one of the biggest gym here in the region
<ulinskie> yeah... target ko 500 people.. max is 1,000 pero kahit 200 lang..kaya pa rin mag push throug.. according to the financial analysis my manager and I made... so by hook or by crook this will push through..
<ulinskie> hehehe
<CuriousCat> jsgotangco, you've done bigger. :D
<jsgotangco> what the hell
<jsgotangco> 1,000
<jsgotangco> the biggest i spoke with is 300
<ulinskie> can't do anything.. this is a regional event na... I dunno how things will come along as the days pass by.. pero I am positive of a wide number of attendees
<ulinskie> I mean big number pala
<ulinskie> kaya mo yan...
<jsgotangco> do you want me to wear checkered tuxedo in white pants and shoes?
<ulinskie> nope... the outfit will be "wear your best rugged attire" pag nakuha ko ang isang malaking sponsor.. everybody will get free ubuntu shirts
<jsgotangco> no pants?
<ulinskie> ?
<aeon17x> ubuntu pants?
<ulinskie> jsgotangco, hey can u recommend to me somebody who is good in drawing/freehand?
<aeon17x> with the icon somewhere on the butt area?
<ulinskie> ngek...
<ulinskie> haha... wag wawa naman.. pag umuutot hehehe
<jsgotangco> aeon17x, no pants
<jsgotangco> ulinskie, dunno anyone
* jsgotangco is good in inkscape though
<ulinskie> hu knows.. how to modify tux?
<jsgotangco> alis muna ako
<jsgotangco> brb
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<ealden> grabe ang daming posts sa planet
<otep> ehrrmm ealden san ba gagawin ang AsiaBusinessTour? =D
<ealden> otep: sa isang hotel tapos sa NCC AFAIK
<otep> ah oke
<otep> punta ka ba?
<ealden> sa NCC siguro
<otep> hmmm
<ealden> la akong invite for the breakfast thing, and even if I had one I'll attend school
<otep> sabagay
<aeon17x> Oh great, the people at LL just got into a anime-girls-with-toast-in-their-mouth fetish.
<otep> huh?
<aeon17x> http://www.secchan.net/niche/src/1137869940005.jpg
<ealden> eh?!
<aeon17x> http://www.secchan.net/niche/src/1137869971892.jpg
<aeon17x> http://www.secchan.net/niche/src/1137870034462.jpg
<aeon17x> http://www.secchan.net/niche/src/1137870010037.jpg
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<ealden> wth
<ealden> ay oo nga pala kagabi sa computerworld may nakita akong "something something implements Microsoft RMS"
<ealden> ehehe
* otep kicks aeon17x (flood)
<aeon17x> FAILURE
<otep> ahehehe dipala
<otep> tsk
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o otep
<otep> oi
<otep> wasisdis
<otep> aheheh
*** otep sets mode: -o otep
<ealden> tsk looks like I have to shutdown later
* ealden installing new fans
* otep is away: ..- -... ..- -. - ..- .-. ----- -..- ----- .-. --..
<otep> dota muna
* brainb0x slap otep
* brainb0x C-a d
<ealden> heheh
<ealden> sup brainb0x
* otep uses Hex on brainb0x
* otep ...brainb0x turns into a chicken
* otep windwalks
<aeon17x> They actually have an ActiveX plugin for Firefox.
<jsgotangco> aeon17x: that is probably community effort
<jsgotangco> aeon17x: i personally know one of the original firefox developers, he did mention something like that
<jsgotangco> aeon17x: if i remember correcly, its not "real" activex; its actually IE being rendered inside Firefox
<aeon17x> So it won't work if you're on a Linux box? :(
<jsgotangco> i dunno
<jsgotangco> south korea has a problem with firefox
<jsgotangco> since it doesn't do activex
<jsgotangco> and like 90% of the online market there runs on activex :/
<jsgotangco> that's why asa was pretty worried when we were in seoul
<aeon17x> By the way, the Canonical folks will arrive on Thursday, right?
<aeon17x> Wonder if we could get some souvenirs or something.
<jsgotangco> dunno
<jsgotangco> :)
<jsgotangco> the only person you would know is mark shuttleworth
<jsgotangco> the others are business development people that ive met before
<zakame> evening noypis :)
<jsgotangco> sup
<zakame> animal 0.14.3-3 just got uploaded, care of Anibal
<jsgotangco> what is that?
<zakame> AN IMAging Library
* jsgotangco shrugs
<jsgotangco> grr why are there ants in this laptop
<zakame> well good for you, you have a lappy :P I'll be chroot-less again until Saturday :(
<jsgotangco> zakame: i work more than 10hours/day :P
<zakame> hehe
<zakame> speaking of work, how's the upcoming book?
<jsgotangco> what book? :P
<zakame> er pamphlet, propaganda, whatever :P
<jsgotangco> the propaganda project with the iosn is going fine
<jsgotangco> but its eating up a prt of my time
<zakame> awww
<otep> that reminds me...
<jsgotangco> what?
<otep> OpenCD haha
<zakame> yeah how's the moin transition?
<jsgotangco> haven't been doing much at the moment
<jsgotangco> i should find time to remaster the cd and run it off k-melon
<zakame> gn8! cya later!
<irvin> butiki: help last
<butiki> irvin: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
<irvin> butiki: help last --nolimit
<irvin> butiki: you're hopeless
<butiki> I don't have a clue.
<irvin> yeah right
<trigg3r> ola
<irvin> magandang umaga aeon17x
<aeon17x> y helo thar irvin
<irvin> happy valentines!
<irvin> hehehe
<otep> ja mon
<irvin> aja?!
<irvin> otep, taga cavite ka?

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