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| <swe3tdave> hi all / bonjour tout le monde.. | |
| <musicman2059> bonjour! lol | |
| <swe3tdave> comment sa va? :P | |
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| <swe3tdave> hi mylesbraithwaite | |
| <musicman2059> comme ci comme ca | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> what are you talking about? | |
| <swe3tdave> ok, moi jme cherche quelque chose a faire.. | |
| <musicman2059> lol | |
| <musicman2059> Alright my french ain't that fluent | |
| <swe3tdave> mylesbraithwaite, i was just telling im that i dont have anything to do.. | |
| <musicman2059> especially the quebec version of it :P | |
| <swe3tdave> ok ;) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> on what? | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> avanspronsen: any word on the linode | |
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| <swe3tdave> mylesbraithwaite, im waiting to see if avanspronsen is alive.. and apparently he's not.. | |
| <swe3tdave> s/alive/online/ | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> has he been on at all in the past week | |
| <swe3tdave> mylesbraithwaite, i have exchanged 2 or 3 email with him in 1 week.. | |
| <musicman2059> tail -f /var/log/userlog :P | |
| <swe3tdave> thats all... | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> so atleast we no he is alive | |
| <swe3tdave> heheh | |
| <swe3tdave> myles, what do you think of the web site prototype? | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i don't rember send url | |
| <swe3tdave> ubuntu.co-exist.net | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> get ride of the firefox banner... get something smaller | |
| <swe3tdave> k | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i am not a big drupal fan thought | |
| <swe3tdave> like this? | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> drupal the cms | |
| <swe3tdave> well i like it for the internationnalisation(i18n) module.. We needed a bilingual site.. | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> ya but it can been done with many other cms | |
| <swe3tdave> cms? can you extrapolate... | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> content managment system it is mambo, drupal, ect | |
| <swe3tdave> ok | |
| <swe3tdave> well i used drupal in the past.. | |
| <swe3tdave> we already have a mambo site but it doesnt support french | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> ya mambo really sucks | |
| <swe3tdave> if you can find something better that support french and translation of user content.. im open to sugestion | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> what about just using a wiki | |
| <swe3tdave> because we want a place more official? | |
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| <avanspronsen> hey all | |
| <avanspronsen> swe3tdave: you there bud? | |
| <swe3tdave> yep | |
| <swe3tdave> hi | |
| <avanspronsen> musicman2059: hi | |
| <avanspronsen> site looks better | |
| <swe3tdave> avanspronsen, what do you think of the links? | |
| <swe3tdave> ok cool | |
| <avanspronsen> ya, a little cleaner | |
| <swe3tdave> i used the site source to make the links looks like the rest of the navigation.. | |
| <avanspronsen> the ;languages blovk doesn;t seem to be there when you are at the forums | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> avanspronsen: whats the word on the linode? | |
| <swe3tdave> its because i found a bug in some pages so i disabled that block in those pages.. | |
| <avanspronsen> mylesbraithwaite: still waiting :-( | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> while thats fine | |
| <avanspronsen> I had gotten the impression it was immenent, but that was a number of weeks ago now | |
| <avanspronsen> I just sent off another inquiry e-mail, re the linode | |
| <avanspronsen> you guys see this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuFoundation | |
| <swe3tdave> yeah.. i know.. :) | |
| <avanspronsen> 3 year desktop support and 5 years for servers | |
| <avanspronsen> corporations will love that | |
| <musicman2059> i know | |
| <musicman2059> too bad it won't be for Hoary, cause I dunno if/when I'll be upgrading it | |
| <musicman2059> I'm gonna try to get the Breezy CDs in October though ;) | |
| <swe3tdave> i just cant way to see what they will do with the money.. ;) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i don't understand what they need that much for | |
| <avanspronsen> don;t know when/if you will be upgrading? | |
| <avanspronsen> not every 6 months? | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i am stil on 4.10 for my server and will never upgrade! unless they stop support on the mirrors | |
| <avanspronsen> i did and hoary upgrade last weekend on my server | |
| <avanspronsen> worked like a charm | |
| <musicman2059> support lasts for 18 months afaik | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> ya but most of my installs are ./configure | |
| <avanspronsen> yup, 18 months | |
| <avanspronsen> till 6.04 :-) | |
| <musicman2059> bah, I'm a bit reckless with packages. I stick with .debs but not all of them are really ubuntu tailored. Just that they come out of universe | |
| <avanspronsen> mylesbraithwaite: gotcha, | |
| <musicman2059> and with 6.04 it's gonna be 3 years | |
| <musicman2059> :P | |
| <musicman2059> echo w00t w00t w00t! | |
| <avanspronsen> LOL | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> its not worth upgrading something that works! | |
| <musicman2059> true | |
| <musicman2059> but it's all about the support | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> what support i am my own support also there is always old arhives... i understand the security stuff | |
| <musicman2059> but still, nothing beats a free OS | |
| <avanspronsen> unless you want to be supported/secure. but you have a bit longer before you ahve to worry about that | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> red hat is still supporting 7.3 | |
| <musicman2059> I might be a computer geek but my training is like 95% windows, 5% linux | |
| <avanspronsen> that is wat better support then you get from MS :-) | |
| <musicman2059> just trying to figure out why sometimes X server boots up with crazy keyboard repeat levels than usual | |
| <musicman2059> definately | |
| <musicman2059> esepcailly since their new windows update doesn't work! | |
| <avanspronsen> windows 2000 just fell off support not too long ago :-) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> like why would i have to update wget | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> what could possible been done to make it better? | |
| <musicman2059> bah, Windows 2000 doesn't need support when it has me. | |
| <musicman2059> then again, why would I wanna use Windoze? | |
| <musicman2059> Why support Micro$hit? :P | |
| <avanspronsen> right, cause there are no bugs/issues/scurity problems | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i don't mind win 2000 now that all the bugs are out of it | |
| <avanspronsen> I support 200+ windows servers, I know :-) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> 2003 sucks | |
| <musicman2059> Unix servers > Windows servers | |
| <musicman2059> Even my company, who uses Win2k workstations use Linux as their DC | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> ya but when ASP.NET applications windows > unix | |
| <avanspronsen> 2003 sucks? hmmm, they seem even better | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i don't like win 2003 it is just to complated win 2000 is much better | |
| <musicman2059> 2000 > XP | |
| <musicman2059> XP = 2000 + higher resource usage | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i am liking FreeBSD lately it pretty cool | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> but nothing beats debian based distro | |
| <avanspronsen> I was having a look at pcbsd | |
| <avanspronsen> I wish it was gnome | |
| <musicman2059> i know | |
| <avanspronsen> I like the simple install concept | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> gnome suks KDE for ever | |
| <musicman2059> Installing an actual debian distro though can be quite a feat | |
| <musicman2059> ;) | |
| <avanspronsen> LOL | |
| * musicman2059 has done it | |
| <avanspronsen> KDE is for my kids | |
| <avanspronsen> :-) | |
| <avanspronsen> they love the pretty colors | |
| <musicman2059> I prefer KDE, but Ubuntu doesn't have it and Kubuntu isn't available through Shipit | |
| <musicman2059> :( | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> just install it | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> sudo apt-get install kubuntu | |
| <avanspronsen> ya, via apt | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i think | |
| <musicman2059> I wish my box actually had internet | |
| <musicman2059> lol | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> how are you talking to use now? | |
| <musicman2059> A crappy Windoze box | |
| <musicman2059> ;) | |
| * musicman2059 is hypocritical | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i am using a Mac OS X | |
| <avanspronsen> I was thinking about scoring a mac mini, update the memory though | |
| <musicman2059> Every time I go to download a package from the repository I have to think about what dependencies my box has or doesn't have lol | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i love the powerpc it rocks but apple just wants to make money so they are moving to intel | |
| <musicman2059> Linux Trovalds > Steve Jobs > Whoever created UNIVAC >>>>>>>>> Bill Gates | |
| <musicman2059> Linus* | |
| <avanspronsen> they need to compete, and try to grow there share | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> they were okay before i am really upset about that and also you get the crazys saying that you will be able to run windows on PowerPC | |
| <musicman2059> wtf? | |
| <musicman2059> but who would wanna run windows? | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> idiots | |
| <avanspronsen> LOL | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> did any one here about the xbox360 demo? | |
| <musicman2059> ROFL | |
| <avanspronsen> no | |
| <musicman2059> xbox360 demo my ass | |
| <avanspronsen> what demo? | |
| <avanspronsen> xbox rocks | |
| <musicman2059> Revolution > PS3 >>>>>>>>>>> X360 | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> for the xbox360 was using a G5 for the demo | |
| <musicman2059> ROFLMFAO | |
| <musicman2059> stupid Microsoft | |
| <avanspronsen> musicman, do you game? | |
| <musicman2059> using their competitors CPU | |
| <musicman2059> yeah | |
| <musicman2059> I'm a nintendo guy though | |
| <avanspronsen> you absolutley cannot beat xbox live | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> the devil only Playstaion can compete | |
| <avanspronsen> my kids like nintendo, they love the cartoon characters | |
| <swe3tdave> its not like the powerpc architecture will be lost.. i think most of it will be used in the new cell processor.. | |
| <musicman2059> Funny how we all hate windows but love xbox. | |
| <avanspronsen> xbox live makes playing video games fun | |
| <musicman2059> cept me. I hate both ;) | |
| <avanspronsen> ya, I don;t hate windows though | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> there is also Playstaion Live | |
| <musicman2059> mind ya, I'll probably never get rid of windows totally | |
| <musicman2059> since I am using a windows pc right now :P | |
| <swe3tdave> musicman2059, please tell me your not using ie!? | |
| <avanspronsen> they all have there advantages and disadvanteges, some more that others though :-) | |
| <musicman2059> Firefox > IE | |
| <swe3tdave> ok.. ;) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> atleast he is not using Opera | |
| <musicman2059> lol | |
| <musicman2059> what's wrong with Opera? | |
| <musicman2059> (besides the fact it's not free) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> advertisments | |
| <musicman2059> ah | |
| <musicman2059> bad ads | |
| <swe3tdave> i found i nice article about ie: http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/249 (Time to dump Internet Explorer) | |
| <avanspronsen> opera does look nice though | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i use to use thunderbird at work untill we got our new crm then i had to switch to outlook and i am geting a virus a day\ | |
| <avanspronsen> outlook pisses me off | |
| <avanspronsen> no ical support | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> got to go catch my train good bye | |
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| <swe3tdave> full virus support.. :P | |
| <avanspronsen> I run outlook in crossover office at work so I can still use ubuntu :-) | |
| <swe3tdave> :) | |
| <avanspronsen> wr run domino too but there is no liux client there either | |
| <swe3tdave> ok.. | |
| <avanspronsen> and evolution has some issues, at least the version in hoary, the exchange connector doesn't support mailbox names that are different than login names :-( | |
| <swe3tdave> i have a ghost of windows somewhere, just in case but thats all.. | |
| <swe3tdave> ok | |
| <avanspronsen> the home pc still has xp, but my laptop us haory | |
| <avanspronsen> hoary | |
| <swe3tdave> ok, i had a laptop.. but the hard drive failed, and the drive cost more than what i paid for the laptop so.. | |
| <swe3tdave> i took a nice hammer and... :P | |
| <avanspronsen> lol, that would have been fun | |
| <swe3tdave> i have to go.. i'll probably be back in an hour or two.. | |
| <swe3tdave> yeah.. ;) heheh | |
| <avanspronsen> we often joke about dropping troublesome servers off of the building roof. :-) | |
| <swe3tdave> humm, it would be fun here.. lots of car, lots of people... :P | |
| <swe3tdave> later | |
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| <swe3tdave> re |